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Morning folks. Welcome to this final Daily Politics conference

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special with the Tories in Birmingham. It's our last special

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of the autumn, the party conference season of 2012. And all eyes today

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on the Prime Minister, sink or swim. Do or decline. David Cameron will

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warn that Britain is in a new global race and needs to raise its

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game to survive. After the Prime Minister's birthday

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balti with Sam Cam last night Mr Cameron makes his speech to

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conference in around half an hour's time. We will bring it to you live

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here on BBC2. Party members are already filling

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up the conference hall, that's our live shot from Birmingham. They're

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getting ready to hear their leader. We will be talking to the Culture

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Secretary, Maria Miller, Business Minister Michael Fallon and former

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Tory Chancellor, Norman Lamont. And Adam will test the mood of the

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Conservative Party's foot soldiers. What do you want to hear today?

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the Conservatives, Tory values, and also the good work they've done.

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They've taken tough decisions for the long-term view for society and

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Britain. All that's coming up before 1.00.

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With us for the duration, former Conservative Chancellor Norman

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Lamont. Welcome back to our show. So, David Cameron will get to his

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feet around 11.30, maybe after this morning, he is going to finish the

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Tory conference. It's been sombre and downbeat, like the economy, he

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is struggling to revive in the last few minutes the Prime Minister's

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made his way from the conference hotel into the conference centre.

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He's expected to talk for around 50 minutes. Looks like he will be

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painting with a broad brush from the bits that have already been

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officially leaked to the media. Britain may not be in the future

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what it has been in the past, he will warn conference and the

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country, unless it's prepared to take difficult, and painful

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decisions. Among which he naturally includes the coalition's policy of

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cutting the deficit. So much, so predictable. But also a more

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personal touch when he talks about his late father, and his son, Ivan,

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who died over three years ago aged six after battling epilepsy and

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cerebral palsy. Back to policy. Speaking to the BBC this morning,

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the Foreign Secretary, William Hague, was also on about the UK

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facing a choice. The risk is we don't keep up with the world

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changing. The world's changed in a significant way over the last few

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years and people know that. It's more intensely competitive.

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Countries that have grown economies like China, India, Brazil, do

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present a more competitive challenge. So, are we going to do

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what we have been setting out at this conference and the last two

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years, revamping our education system, bringing down business

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taxes or go back to borrowing a load of money that we haven't got

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which was really the only recipe at last week's conference? That's the

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choice. Thafrs the foreign haebg. -- that

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was the Foreign Secretary. We are told he was one of the arc

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architects of this conference and the mood it should have. Back to

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the politics of decline? I think what this conference is about,

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about two things, as one of the ladies you interviewed said.

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Firstly, it's about reconnecting with the Conservative Party,

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emphasising that the Government holds conservative values. The

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reason is that inevitably, within a coalition, David Cameron has a

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difficult task of having to pay attention to the Liberal Democrats,

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as well. Unfortunate compromises have to be made. He has to face two

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ways at once and has to assure two audiences, the country that he is

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doing what is in the country's interest and the party that there

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are Conservative values at the heart of this Government and that

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he is a true Conservative. So the Conservative Party faithful need to

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be reassured that a Conservative Prime Minister is a Conservative?

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The Government has been making compromises, obviously, with the

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Liberal Democrats. They understand that, the party faithful aren't

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stupid. People do not always understand. They forget the

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difficulty that David Cameron faces day-to-day in running a Coalition,

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also sorts of compromises have to be made and the party need to be

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reassured that the party wants to win an outright majority at the

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next election, that we are on course to do that, that the economy

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will revive. He is not very popular with the back benches and the the

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party faithful, is he? I think this anxiety about, are the Liberal

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Democrats having too big a say, you know, does exist but people don't

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really see the pressure he is under in two directions. It's very

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difficult task to do, actually. the personal bit, why talk about

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his father, why talk about the sad loss of his son? He's been leader

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of the Conservative Party now for seven years. If he doesn't think we

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know him by now, we will never know him. Well, I suppose that is what

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people think the public expect and want to hear. Politics has to come

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personal, very touchy-feelly. you like that? I am not sure I

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would do it in that particular way but I don't have his particular

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background. I have noticed that all leaders of all - I don't know if

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you have been watching, I am sure you have, the US presidential

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election. It's quite extraordinary the extent... Is that a good thing,

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we want to bring that to British politics? We are not going quite as

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far as Mitt Romney's six-year-old son waving to the convention. I

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don't think is a good thing. It's good to have you aboard with us, we

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will talk more. Yes, David Cameron got a big task ahead, of course,

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let's get a sense and flavour of the mood at conference and talk to

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Kevin Maguire from The Mirror and Quentin Letts of the Daily Mail.

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Norman Lamont was talking there about the compromises made in

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Coalition from the Liberal Democrats for David Cameron, but

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what about his birthday yesterday having to sit through Boris's

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thunderous speech and having to prepare his own? Yes, Boris was

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unexpectedly loyal. Everyone was waiting for the rappier to be

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wielded and that didn't happen. Going back to what Lord Lamont was

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saying, there is a reason that David Cameron isn't universally

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popular with his parliamentary party. He doesn't have the powers

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of patronage. He can't give out jobs. He can't because necessary a

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Coalition. In the same way as a leader of the country, he can't

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spend money. He doesn't have that power of patronage. Politics is

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very different at the moment from what we have had in the last 15

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years when it was splurge time and when Prime Ministers could give out

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lots of jobs to their mates. It's very different now for Cameron. He

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doesn't have that power. That is why it's so important, that's why

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he has to fill in the time, the air time, by talking about his personal

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story and his beliefs. This is what happens when politicians can't

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spend money. I think that's great, as a right-winger, it's a relief

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they're not spending our money. That's what the Tories haven't done

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this week. They haven't been giving away lots to the electorate, good

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for them. As well as having to deal with his own party and obviously

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the Liberal Democrats, he's now answering Ed Miliband, Kevin

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Maguire, and trying to reclaim the centre ground. He found money for a

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council tax bauble, so there's money when they want it. You are

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quite right. Ed Miliband staked out the centre ground. The

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Conservatives say that's not true, he is actually on the left and that

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is true to some extent but David Cameron himself this week has moved

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to the right and he's done than with a harder message on welfare

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and unemployment rights, even shooting those huskies he used to

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hug. He is in Tory tribe here where they're not entirely confident in

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him and he has to reassert his authority, that's what he has to do

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and the reason he talks about his father is he knows it humanises him.

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When you are given a much tougher message and you are going to look

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like the nasty party, you talk about your family and Ed Miliband

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did it, Gordon Brown used to do it, Tony Blair went so far to have a

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baby in Downing Street to prove he was a family man. We might be

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cynical in the media but voters like it. There was a little bit of

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an opportunity for David Cameron to enjoy his birthday, he went out for

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a curry with Sam Cam and the birthday cake that I recognised.

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The photograph of all those loyal aides laughing hard. But can I come

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back to my rant earlier, there was a missed opportunity today, the

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Culture Secretary, Maria Miller, gave a speech, it's the most

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vaccous piece of work I have heard for a long time. She has a

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responsibility, a duty, to talk to us about the culture that she

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believes in and the possibilities of the wider cultural world.

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did she misthe opportunity? All she talked about... She's not very

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good! She talked about the Olympics and Union Jack, feeble. She should

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be talking about the brilliant possibilities of culture as a

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Conservative for culture to draw up - to give opportunities to the poor

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and she didn't do that. That's the problem that the Tories have got.

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They've no cultural soul. You will have a chance to watch her again,

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because we are interviewing her later in the programme. Good luck!

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So, something for to you look forward to. Kevin Maguire, what

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about the G-word - growth? Is that going to be talked about is there a

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sense the sunny uplands will come in the future? A lot will be, the

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tough decisions, blame Labour, he presents himself as a broom. We saw

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Boris Johnson was more of a Dyson sucking up the good news. He will

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present himself as I am the man that will take you through, there

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is light at the end of the the tunnel, we will be OK if you stick

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with me and take this terrible medicine. Growth will below, living

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standards aren't going to soar, but 12 months' time could be a

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different narrative for David Cameron. All right, thank you I

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think we are going to speak to you after the speech. So go and get

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your seats. Now, David Cameron may have been treated to a curry at a

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Birmingham balti house last night but we think he is probably miffed

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his wife didn't get him what he really wanted. He is desperate to

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get his hands on one of these. Cheers. A Daily Politics mug.

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programme will know you can't buy these mugs, no, you have to steal

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them! You have to win them in our competition. Mrs Cameron, it's not

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too late but you will have to work out when this happened, like

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So, David Cameron David Cameron has made his away across to the

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conference centre from the hotel. There he comes, this is a few

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minutes ago. Hand in hand with Sam Cam, as she's known to her friends,

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the the Prime Minister's wife. Suitably dressed in blue for the

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Conservative Party conference. The Prime Minister looking relaxed, or

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attempting to look relaxed. He's done this six times before, this is

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his 7th speech as leader of the Conservative Party and that takes

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him to the secure area of the conference. He is going to start

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speaking, we think, in around about 15 minutes' time. We can now talk

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to the Business Minister, he's been on this programme more than me, I

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think, Michael Fallon, live from Birmingham. Welcome, Mr Fallon. Now

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you are a Minister I think this is the first time we have talked to

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you, say something, Michael, so we know you are there. I am here.

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do you agree with Norman Lamont that Mr Cameron needs to reconnect

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He has been meeting the Tory faithful. The Tory faithful like to

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hear it straight. They will hear that from him in a few moments'

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time. This is a serious speech. We face some quite serious challenges

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and we can come through them. are in decline at the moment, is

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that correct? No. He is saying we face some very serious challenges,

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not least from the newly-emerging economies of the Far East. We have

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to take the tough decisions. That means no longer spending on

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unaffordable public sector pensions, or welfare systems, but only

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concentrating on the future. He is going to say, "We are in a global

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race today." That means an hour of reckoning for countries like us.

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Sink or swim. What are the tough decisions has he got to take to

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stop the decline? These countries that we are competing with don't

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have the great deficits that we inherited, they don't have welfare,

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unreformed welfare systems, they don't have huge public sector

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pension liabilities. We have started to take those decisions. We

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need to go on getting the benefit system under control. We need to go

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on taking the tough decisions and only spend public money on the

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future, investing in infrastructure, roads, railways, power stations. If

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we do that, and reforming our school system and so on, if we do

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that we can face up to these challenges and get through. He is

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going to say, "The Conservative Party is for everyone." It echoes

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the one nation theme that your party used to champion but Mr

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Miliband seems to have run-off with your clothes. Is it a mistake, or

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is it not a mistake to allow the opposition to dictate the terms of

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political trade for you? Well, you know, we have always been a one-

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nation party. That was coined by a Conservative, by Disraeli, 100

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years ago. We have always lived up to that. We have been a party of

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North and South, white, Black, Asian and so on. We have always

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been proud to be a National Party. I don't think Mr Miliband can claim

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that. He is not well represented in the South of England. He is still

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in the pocket of the trade unions. He is not leading a one-nation

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party. David Cameron is. Hold on. You have only got one seat in

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Scotland. You regularly poll 14% of the vote. You have a handful of

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seats in Wales. You have no seats in any major northern city. In what

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way are you a one-nation party? have more parliamentary seats in

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Wales. We are trying to come back in Scotland. Long-term, we have

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been in decline, so have Labour. Labour are on the way back now.

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Well, we have both been losing share to the Scottish National

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Party. We have always put ourselves over as a one-nation party.

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Miliband can't do that because his party is financed by the trade

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unions and his policy-making is dominated by the trade unions. He

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was elected by the trade unions. opposed to hedge funds and private

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equity like your own party? One man, one vote, every member had a vote.

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That wasn't true... I'm talking about the money? It was the trade

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union vote that decided it should be Ed Miliband and not David

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Miliband. We give every single member of our party one vote.

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Nobody can buy our party. Are you in favour of gay marriage? Well, we

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are consulting on gay marriage... I'm asking you. Well, fine. I don't

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want to see, speaking personally, I don't want to see ever the Churches

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forced to accommodate gay marriage ceremonies if they don't want to do

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so. If we change the law, we have to be sure they can't be compelled

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to do that in future. That is what they are most concerned about.

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you in favour of civil gay marriage? Well, I need to be very

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satisfied on that particular point, that they are not going to be

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forced to conduct a marriage ceremony, whether they are

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Catholics, or Church of England, or whatever, inside a church. At the

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Spectator Party Conference Party last night, Cabinet Ministers were

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talking about how they could get Andrew Mitchell to step down as

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Chief Whip, some even talking on the record like Iain Duncan Smith.

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Will he survive to the weekend? Look, I was at the party last night.

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I didn't hear anybody talking about Andrew Mitchell. He has apologised

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for what he said. The police officer concerned in that incident

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has accepted the apology. We should all move on. I really don't think

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that is the most important thing that you can find from this

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conference. Let me tell you what Iain Duncan Smith said. He said,

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talking of the possibility that maybe he should be sent to be High

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Commissioner of Rwanda, he said, "Yeah, good idea, there are no

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gates in Rwanda!" That is on the record. I ask again, will Mr

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Mitchell survive the week? Look, I'm not sure that was on the record.

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I think you are re-telling tittle- tattle from drinks parties at a

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Conference. This Conference has been debating some serious issues.

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What Andrew Mitchell may or may not have said three weeks' ago hasn't

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been the big topic of conversation here. He has apologised. The police

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officer has accepted the apology. We should move on. His job is

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secure? Look, the Prime Minister has said that it is over now. We

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should move on. The apology has been accepted. He shouldn't have

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lost his temper like he did. But the apology has been accepted now.

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I don't think there is much more to it than that. OK. I notice you

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didn't say his job was secure. We will leave it there. Enjoy Prime

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Minister's Speech. God forbid we should report tittle-

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tattle on drinks parties! They are online, sometimes the only

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way you can find out is by what he calls "tittle-tattle".

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Now, it's not been a terrific year for the Conservatives one way and

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another. With U-turns over the Budget, fallout from the reshuffle

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and that embarrassing story about plebs. Of course, we here have

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covered it all in glorious technicolor. You can always rely on

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us. To the review of the past 12 months. We have hired our own

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expert critic to gave us his If the last 12 months was turned

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into a film, what would we call it? The Hills Are Alive With The Sound

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of Europe? Or Carry On Up The The year started so well for David

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Cameron when he stood up to Europe and vetoed the fiscal treaty. As

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the year wore on, there was public frustration at the lack of progress

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on the economy. There was also a worry that the coalition seemed to

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be squabbling on everything, from House of Lords reform, to wealth

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taxes. There were the dizzying number of U-turns which raised

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questions about the Government's competence. And then, of course,

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there was the big event, the Budget, which reinforced the sense that the

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Conservative Party was a party of the rich. Not only are Cameron and

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Osborne two posh boys who don't know the price of milk, they are

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two arrogant posh boys who show no remorse, no contrition and no

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passion to want to understand the lives of others. That is their real

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crime. The real hammer blow for David Cameron was Nick Clegg's

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decision to withdraw support for changes to the constituency

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boundaries. After failing to get his treasured goal of Lords reform,

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the Deputy PM torpedoed a plan that would have given the Tories 20

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extra seats at the next election. Cameron accepted Clegg's act

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because he knows Clegg is probably only Liberal Democrat Leader who

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can keep the coalition on track. David Cameron's great fear is that

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the Lib Dems will conclude that only Vince Cable can restore their

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party's fortunes and Cable's heart is very much on the left. Up until

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now, David Cameron's leadership has been secure. There hasn't been an

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alternative. Some people are beginning to wonder whether the

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Olympotastic Mayor of London might be that alternative. Boris has won

:24:30.:24:38.

in a Labour-leaning city twice. Once in the middle of a recession.

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If David Cameron can't improve things, and if Boris can get into

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Parliament, then suddenly, just perhaps, all bets are off. You did

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win more medals than France! Yes. And more medals than Germany and

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Australia! More medals, ladies and gentlemen, more medals per head,

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more medals than any country on Earth. Above all, you brought home

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the truth about us and about this country. When we put our minds to

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it, there is no limit to what Britain can achieve. David

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Cameron's now absolutely determined for his Government to be about much

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more than cuts. In the reshuffle, he put Ministers in all the key

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economic departments, absolutely focused on delivery, delivery,

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delivery. He still needs a plan that is bolder. He needs to have a

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plan that shows that he is rising above the squabbles of the

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coalition. And he needs an agenda that looks equal to the big

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challenges of our times. The last time the Conservatives won

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a general election was in 1992. Then, John Major didn't just focus

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on economic prosperity, but sharing that prosperity, too. He convinced

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the British people that we wouldn't just benefit the already-haves, but

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that everyone would benefit - blue collar workers included. The other

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similarity is Labour was led by someone who didn't look prime

:26:18.:26:23.

ministerial. In more ways than one, 1992 should be David Cameron's

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model. Tim Montgomerie.

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Norman Lamont, how worrying is it when former Welsh Secretary told a

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fringe meeting this week that the Conservative Party's losing its

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reputation for competence? There have been, obviously with the

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Budget and with the railway fiasco, there have been a number of

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unfortunate things. The most important thing is the economy, the

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economy, the economy. And the budget deficit reduction programme.

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I know people get bored out of hearing this said again and again.

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The Government don't have the luxury of forgetting about it. It

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is the central problem facing the country, facing the Government.

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Ordinary people may forget about it, but the Government can never forget

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about it. There won't be real growth, increasing prosperity

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unless that programme continues. Therefore, I think boring though

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sometimes journalists may consider it, it is very important for the

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Government to repeat the message about the huge crisis and deficit,

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the huge debts that they were left. All right. Thank you.

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Only a few minutes to go before the Prime Minister gets on his feet.

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Can we dip into the Hall? You can see they are showing a video. It is

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BBC policy - that is not a video - otherwise it is slow-moving! They

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do show videos in the run-up. It is the BBC policy not to show videos

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of any of the party conferences. The hall will be full. this is what

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they live for, the delegates. We get excited by it, too. Nick

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Robinson is there for us. Welcome. Great to talk to you. We have a

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rough idea that the country is in decline unless we take the tough

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decisions and we are taking the tough decisions, that is what he is

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going to say, isn't it? Well, that is part one of it. Part two is the

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more upbeat bit. There were a deliberate attempt to say, "You may

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not like the Conservatives, but they are gritty, they are realistic,

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they are being honest with you about what the problems facing the

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country is." That is why you got the sort of speech you got from the

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Chancellor. That is why you got the briefings that made the headlines

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in this morning's newspapers. I think what you will find is that

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the Prime Minister tries to speak more to the slogan at this

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Conference - Britain can deliver. Having tried to claim the credit

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for being open about the scale of the problems the country faces, he

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then needs to add a gloss of optimism, if you like, that Britain

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is capable of delivering and, to use a phrase that I am told he will

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use again and again, aspiration nation - trying to identify himself

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with the aspiration of ordinary hard-working people and to say, if

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they can be liberated, the country will revive, too. To what extent

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does the Prime Minister have to reconnect with his own supporters,

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many of whom, as you will have discovered there, are not happy

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with either him or the way the Government is going? Well, quite a

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lot of that has already taken place, Andrew. Why did we move from hug a

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hoodie to bash a burglar, despite the fact there have been three

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legal changes already to do what the one announced yesterday was

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about, despite the fact there are only a handful of cases involved?

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Why? It pleases the Tory faithful and it pleases the Tory press and

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generates good headlines. Why did the Prime Minister stop warning his

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party about obsessing about Europe and talk rather a lot about the

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fact that he had a big speech coming up and that he was

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increasingly minded, not in this Parliament, but in the future, to

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talk about Europe and to hold a referendum on Britain's future

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relationship with the EU? Again and again, we have seen this. Welfare.

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Why did he not specify the tax rises on the rich and yet specify

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the cuts that he was looking for in welfare and identify himself with

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the people who are angered by going off to work early in the morning

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and seeing the curtains closed in the home of someone who is

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unemployed and not working? Again, because he is trying to reconnect

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with the party faithful. Most of that work he will stand up hoping

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it's been done and will try and present himself to his party as the

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guy who looks and sounds like a Prime Minister, doing the right

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For many of the early years of Mr Cameron they didn't use that

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language at all, so why have they gone back to it? Because they've

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got a problem. I think it's absolutely right to highlight that

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and notice that. It is precisely because Labour have moved on to

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this turf of one nation and talked about the children who don't get to

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go to university, the children who do want training and an

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apprenticeship, the children who worry about get ago job and getting

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their first home. It's precisely because Labour have identified that

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group and because David Cameron, partly because of Andrew Mitchell,

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allegedly referring to plebs, partly because of that 50p tax cut,

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partly because of the demeanour of the people at the top of the

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Conservative Party, has become associated once again as Tim was

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saying, with being the party of the rich, it's for that reason that

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David Cameron feels the need to put up front and centre his

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identification with the people he will call the aspirers, the

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strivers. You mentioned Andrew Mitchell, have you heard any

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rumblings among senior Conservatives about his future as

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Chief Whip? Absolutely, I have spoken to senior cabinet Ministers

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who say if it had been anybody else they would have been sacked

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straightaway. They believe it was a mistake of the Prime Minister not

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to sack Andrew Mitchell. They think Mr Mitchell's position is not

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sustainable in the long-term and they believe that a way will be

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found to get him out of his job, but long after the press will be

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able to claim they've got a scalp. There is a widespread view at this

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conference that Andrew Mitchell is desperately damaged as Chief Whip,

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as enforcer of discipline, but there is no expectation that will

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lead to that job in Rwanda that Iain Duncan Smith was apparently

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joking about at a party last night. Thank you. I hope Michael Fallon

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was listening to you there. You mentioned, he has to send them away

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with a spring in their step, more upbeat parts of the speech, what's

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the upbeat bit? Well, I think it's trying to convince the country that

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the Olympic spirit that after all Boris Johnson talked about in the

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last few moments Lord Coe has been talking about on the stage of this

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conference, remember he was originally an aide to William Hague,

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we always remember the running and we remember the Olympics. But many

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people forget that he was a Conservative MP and effectively

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Chief of Staff for William Hague. He will try and tap into that sort

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of can-do spirit that Boris Johnson talked about, trying to convince

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people the country has proved it's capable of getting out of the mess

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it's in. The other interesting thing he will do is try to extend

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the narrative of this Government away purely from deficit reduction.

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He will try and link other reforms, welfare reforms, reforms to the

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schools, as all part of, if you like, getting Britain fit for what

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he calls the global race. In effect, that whole message of the Olympics,

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which is believing that the country is capable of it, taking the

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measures necessary to get the country like an athlete, fit for

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the competition, acknowledging the scale of the task, and then a note

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of optimism at the end, that at least is the aim. Whether he will

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pull it off is a different thing, but that's what I am told is the

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aim. This is a speech that will be much Morecamber Ron than we have --

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more Cameron than we have seen before. Steve Hilton, a guy much

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more edgy than David Cameron, always urging him to go a little

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bit further, always wanting him to challenge the party, he's emigrated

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and that's producing a change in David Cameron's rhetoric. Thank you

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for that. Let's go straight to Birmingham and

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listen to the Prime Minister, David Cameron, address the Conservative

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In May 2010, this party stood on the threshold of power for the

:35:28.:35:34.

first time in more than a decade. We knew then that it was not just

:35:34.:35:40.

the ordinary duties of office that we were assuming. We were entering

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into Government at a grave moment in the modern history of Britain.

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At a time when people felt uncertainty, even fear. Here was

:35:51.:35:56.

the challenge - to make an insolvent nation solvent again. To

:35:57.:36:03.

set our country back on the path to prosperity that all can share in,

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to bring home our troops from danger while keeping our citizens

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safe from terror, to mend a broken society. Two and a half years later,

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of course I can't tell you that all is well, but I can say this:

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Britain is on the right track. APPLAUSE As Prime Minister, it has

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fallen to me to say some hard things and to help our country face

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some hard truths. All of my adult life, whatever the difficulties,

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the British people have at least been confident about one thing, we

:36:48.:36:53.

have thought we can pay our way. That we can earn our living as a

:36:53.:36:57.

major industrial country and we will always remain one. It has

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fallen to us to say that we cannot assume that any longer. Unless we

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act, unless we take difficult, painful decisions, unless we show

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determination and imagination, Britain may not be in the future

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what it has been in the past. Because the truth is this, we are

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in a global race today. And that means an hour of reckoning for

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countries like ours, sink or swim, do or decline. To take office, to

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become the Government at such a moment is a duty and an honour. And

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we will rise to the challenge. Today, I want to set out a serious

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argument to this country about how we do that. About how we compete

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and thrive in this world. How can we make sure that in this century,

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like the ones before, Britain is on the rise? Nothing matters more.

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Every battle we fight, every plan we make, every decision we take is

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to achieve that end. Britain on the rise. Now the challenge before us

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is daunting, I have confidence in our country. Why? Because Britain

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can deliver. We can do big things. We saw it this summer. The Jubilee,

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the Olympics, the Paralympics, the best country in the world and let

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us say it, with our Queen, the finest Head of State on earth.

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APPLAUSE I was recently trying to think of

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my favourite moment of that extraordinary summer. Was it

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telling President Hollande that no, we hadn't cheated at the cycling,

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our wheels weren't rounder than anyone else, we just peddled faster

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than the French?! No. For me it was seeing that young woman who swam

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her heart out for years, nine training sessions a week, two hours

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at a time, my best moment was putting that gold medal around the

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neck of Ellie Simmonds. APPLAUSE And you know something, I am so

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grateful for what those Paralympians did. When I used to

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push my son Ivan around in his wheelchair, I used to think that

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too many people saw the wheelchair and not the boy. I think today more

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people would see the boy and not the wheelchair and that's because

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of what happened in Britain this summer. APPLAUSE

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And the Olympics showed us something else, something important.

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Whether our athletes were Scottish, Welsh, English, or from Northern

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Ireland, they draped themselves in one flag. APPLAUSE Now there was,

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of course, one person who didn't like that. He is called Alex

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Salmond. I am going to go and see him on Monday to sort out that

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referendum on independence by the end of 2014. Because there are many

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things I want this Coalition Government to do, but what could be

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more important than saving our United Kingdom? So let's say it, we

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are better together, we will rise together and let us fight that

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referendum with everything we've got. APPLAUSE

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There are so many people to thank for this summer, those that won the

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bid, those that built the stadia, those that ran the Games, that

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national hero, that Conservative hero you heard from, Seb Coe. What

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a giant he was this summer. APPLAUSE

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But, of course, there is also the man who put the smile on all our

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faces, the zinger on the zip-wire, the Conservative Mayor of London,

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our own Boris Johnson. APPLAUSE And those Games-Makers, those

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extraordinary Games-Makers. I have spent three years trying to explain

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the Big Society. They did it beautifully in just three weeks and

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I want to thank them for that, as well. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE

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Now, there is another group of people who stepped into the breach

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this summer and we in this party, we never forget them. Our Armed

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Forces have been on the ground in Afghanistan now for over ten years.

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433 men and women have paid the ultimate price and made the

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ultimate sacrifice. Just last weekend, there was a memorial

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service for one of the fallen and the eulogy said this: All that they

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had they gave, all that they might have had, all that they had ever

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been, all that they might ever have become. Beautiful words. Painful

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words. Words we should never forget when we send our young men and

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women into harm's way to work on our behalf. And for all those who

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serve, and for their families, I repeat the commitment I made when

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this Government came to office. By the end of 2014, all UK combat

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operations in Afghanistan will have come to an end. Nearly all our

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troops will be home. Their country proud, their duty done. And let

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everyone in this hall stand and show how profoundly grateful we are

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for everything they've done. To meet the challenges that our

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country faces, we must have confidence in ourselves. Confidence

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as a party. We've been in office two and a half years now, and we've

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done some big, life-changing things. Just ask Clive Stone. I met him

:44:52.:44:55.

years ago when we were in opposition. He had cancer and he

:44:56.:45:00.

said to me, the drug I need, it's out there but they won't give it to

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me because it's too expensive. Please, if you get in, do something

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about it. And we have. A new cancer drug fund that's got the latest

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drugs to more than 21,000 people and counting and there is a reason.

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There is sa reason we could do that. It's because we made a big decision

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to protect the NHS from spending cuts. No other party made that

:45:30.:45:32.

commitment. Not Labour. Not the Liberal Democrats. Just us, the

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Conservatives. To all those people who said we'd bring the NHS down, I

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would say this: You've got a point. I will tell you what's down,

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waiting lists down, mixed wards down, the number of managers down,

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bureaucratic targets down, hospital infections down. What's up? The

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number of doctors, the number of dentists, midwives, the number of

:45:55.:45:58.

operations carried out in our NHS. Let no one be in any doubt, this is

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the party of the NHS and that is the way it's going to stay.

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We made another big decision too in these difficult times. That was to

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go on saving lives abroad. I know some are sceptical about our aid

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budget. But picture the scene. You are in a health centre in Kinshasa.

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You see the child with a needle in her arm being injected with a

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yellow fever vaccine. That is the difference between living and dying.

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How can anyone tell me that's a waste of money? Since we have

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gathered here in Birmingham on Sunday, British aid money has

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vaccinated 130,000 children around the world. 130,000 children. YOU,

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the Conservative Party, helped to do that and you should be proud of

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what you have done. Here's something else this party's

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done in Government. Last December I was at a European Council in

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Brussels. It was 3.00am, there was a treaty on the table that was not

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in Britain's interests. And there were 25 people around that table

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telling me to sign it. But I did something that no other British

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leader has ever done before. I said no, Britain comes first, and I

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APPLAUSE So my friends, we are doing big

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Conservative things. For years people said, "You'll never reform

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public sector pensions, the trade unions won't stand for it." We have

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done it. For years people said, "Benefits are out of control,

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there's nothing you can do about it." Because of our welfare cap, no

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family will be getting more in benefits than the average family

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earns. For years people said... APPLAUSE For years people asked,

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"Why can't we get rid of those radical preachers who spout hatred

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about our country, living off the taxpayers?" Theresa May has done it.

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She's got Abu Hamza on that plane and out of our country to face

:48:44.:48:54.
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justice. APPLAUSE So be proud of what we've done

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already. Two million of the lowest paid workers being taken out of

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income tax altogether. Over 18 million households helped with a

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freeze in their council tax - and we're freezing it all over again

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next year, too. These are big Conservative things, delivered by

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this Government, made possible by this party. We can deliver. We can

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do big things. The Olympics reminded us how great it feels to

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be successful. But we must not let that give us a warm glow or a false

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sense of security. All over the world, countries are on the rise.

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Yes, we've been hearing about India and China for years. But it's hard

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to believe what is happening in Brazil, in Indonesia, in Nigeria,

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too. Meanwhile, the old powers are on the side. What do the countries

:49:56.:50:00.

on the rise have in common? They are lean, fit, obsessed with

:50:00.:50:05.

enterprise, spending money on the future - on education, incredible

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infrastructure and technology. And what do the countries on the slide

:50:09.:50:16.

have in common? They're fat, sclerotic, overregulated, spending

:50:16.:50:20.

money on unaffordable welfare systems, huge pension bills,

:50:20.:50:24.

unreformed public services. I sit in those endless meetings in

:50:24.:50:27.

Brussels where we talk forever about Greece. On the other side of

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the world, China is growing so fast they are creating another economy

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the size of Greece every three months. I'm not going to stand here

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as Prime Minister and allow this country to join the slide. My job -

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our job - is to make sure that in this 21st Century, as in the

:50:46.:50:51.

centuries that came before, our country, Britain, is on the rise.

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And here, here we know how that is done. It is the collective result

:50:59.:51:02.

of individual effort and aspiration. The ideas you have, the businesses

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you start, the hours you put in. Aspiration is the engine of

:51:08.:51:13.

progress. Countries rise when they allow their people to rise. In this

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world, where brains matter more, where technologies shape our lives,

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where no-one is owed a living, the most powerful resource we have is

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our people. Not just the scientists, the entrepreneurs, the engineers,

:51:26.:51:30.

not just the teachers, the parents, the nurses, but all our people,

:51:30.:51:34.

including the poorest, those who have never had a chance, never had

:51:34.:51:38.

a job, never had hope. That's why the mission for this Government is

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to build an aspiration nation. To unleash and unlock the promise in

:51:43.:51:51.

all our people. And for us, for us Conservatives, this is not just an

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economic mission - it is a moral one. It's not just about growth and

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GDP. It is what has always made our hearts beat faster - aspiration,

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people rising from the bottom to the top. Line one, rule one of

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being a Conservative is that it's not where you come from that counts,

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it is where you're going. We have been led... APPLAUSE

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We've been led by the daughter of a grocer, the son of a music hall

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performer, by a Jew when Jews were persecuted, by a woman when women

:52:34.:52:37.

were side-lined. We don't look at the label on the tin, we look at

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what's in it. Let me put that another way. We don't preach about

:52:43.:52:47.

one nation but practise class war. We just get behind people who want

:52:47.:52:57.
:52:57.:53:10.

to get on in life. APPLAUSE That's right. The doers, the risk-

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takers. The young people who dream of their first paycheck, their

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first car. Those people who are ready and willing to work hard to

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get those things. While the intellectuals of other parties

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sneer at people who want to get on in life, we here salute you. They

:53:27.:53:33.

call us the party of the better-off. No. We are the party of the want to

:53:33.:53:41.

be better-off, those who strive to make a better life for themselves

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and we should never ever be ashamed of saying so. APPLAUSE This party,

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our party, it has a great heart. But we don't like wearing it on our

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sleeve. Conservatives tend to think, "Let's just get on with the job and

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help people and not bang on about it. It is not our style." There is

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a problem with that. It leaves a space for others to twist our ideas

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and distort who we are: The cartoon Conservatives who don't care. My

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mission from the day I became leader of this party was to change

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that. Yes, to show that the Conservative Party is for everyone,

:54:23.:54:27.

north or south, black or white, straight or gay. But above all, it

:54:27.:54:31.

was to show that Conservative methods are not just the way we

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grow a strong economy, but the way we build a "big society". That

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Conservative methods are not just good for the strong and the

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successful, but they are the best way to help the poor, the weak and

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the vulnerable. It is not enough for us to know our ideas are right.

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We have to explain why they are compassionate, too. Here is what we

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are up against. We say we've got to get the private sector bigger and

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the public sector smaller. Our opponents call it "Tory cuts,

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slashing the state." No, it is the best way to create the sustainable

:55:09.:55:19.
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jobs people need. APPLAUSE We say help people become

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independent from welfare. Our opponents call it, "Cruel Tories

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leaving people to fend for themselves." No, there is only one

:55:28.:55:32.

real route out of poverty and that is work. We say of course you have

:55:32.:55:36.

to insist on a disciplined, rigorous education for your

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children. Our opponents say, "Elitist Tories, old-fashioned and

:55:41.:55:45.

out of touch." No, a decent education is the only way to give

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all our children the chance they need to start in this world.

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APPLAUSE The reason we want to reform

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schools, to cut welfare dependency, to reduce Government spending is

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not because we are the same old Tories who want to help the rich,

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it is because we are the Tories whose ideas help everyone - the

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poorest the most. A strong private sector. Welfare that works. Schools

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that teach. These three things are essential to helping our people to

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rise. They are essential to our success in this world. Labour will

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fight each and everyone of them every step of the way. These three

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things are not just the battleground for Britain's future,

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they are also the battle lines for the next election and it is a fight

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we've got to win for our party, for our country, but above all for our

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nation's future. APPLAUSE So to help our people rise, the number

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one, we need an economy that creates good jobs. We need

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businesses of every size, in every type of industry, in every part of

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the country - investing and taking people on. There are some basic

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things they need in order to do that. They need low interest rates.

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They need confidence that it is worth investing because the

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customers will be there, whether at home or abroad. Getting the deficit

:57:36.:57:41.

down is essential for both those things. That is why our deficit

:57:41.:57:45.

reduction plan is not an alternative to a growth plan, it is

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the very foundation of our growth plan. It is the only way we'll get

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Britain on the rise. Now I know that you are asking whether our

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plan is working. And here's the truth: The damage was worse than we

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thought, and it's taking longer than we hoped. The world economy -

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especially in the eurozone - has been much weaker than expected in

:58:10.:58:16.

the past two years. When some of o your big trading partners, -- some

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of your big trading partners like Ireland, Spain, Italy are suffering,

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they buy less from us. That hurts our growth and it makes it harder

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to pay off our debts. Here is the crucial thing you need to know. Yes,

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it is worse than we thought. Yes, it is taking longer. But we are

:58:35.:58:39.

making progress. Thanks to the grit and resolve of George Osborne, we

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have a cut a quarter off the deficit in the past two years - 25%.

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That has helped keep our interest rates at record low levels. Keeping

:58:49.:58:53.

mortgages low. Leaving more money in your pockets. Giving businesses

:58:53.:58:57.

more confidence to invest. Creating more jobs. And if you don't believe

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me, just look at the job creation figures. Since this Government took

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office, over one million new jobs have been created in the private

:59:07.:59:12.

sector. That is more - net - in the last two years than Labour managed

:59:12.:59:22.
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in ten years. APPLAUSE Now, the Labour politicians who got

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us into this mess say they have a different way out of it. They call

:59:33.:59:39.

it Plan B and it goes like this: We should stop worrying about deficit

:59:39.:59:43.

reduction, borrow more money and spend it to boost the economy. It

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sounds so reasonable when you put it like that. Let me tell you why

:59:49.:59:53.

it's not. Right now, while we've got a deficit, the people we're

:59:53.:59:57.

borrowing money from believe that we'll pay it back - because we have

:59:57.:00:00.

set out a tough plan to cut spending and to live within our

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means. That is why our interest rates are amongst the lowest in the

:00:04.:00:08.

world, even though the deficit left to us by Labour was one of the

:00:08.:00:12.

highest in the world. If we did what Labour want, and watered-down

:00:12.:00:17.

our plans, the risk is that the people that we borrow money from

:00:17.:00:23.

will start to question our ability and resolve to pay off our debts.

:00:23.:00:27.

Some might refuse to lend us any money at all. Others would only

:00:27.:00:31.

lend it to us at higher interest rates. That would hurt the economy

:00:31.:00:37.

and it would hit people hard. If you have a mortgage of �100,000,

:00:37.:00:43.

just a 1% increase in interest rates would mean an extra �1,000 to

:00:43.:00:48.

pay each year. Labour's plan to borrow more is actually a massive

:00:48.:00:53.

gamble with our economy and our future. It would squander all of

:00:53.:01:01.

the sacrifices we've already made. Let me put it like this. We are

:01:01.:01:07.

here because we spent too much and borrowed too much. How on earth can

:01:07.:01:17.
:01:17.:01:23.

the answer be more spending and I honestly think that Labour

:01:23.:01:27.

haven't learned a single thing. When they were in office their

:01:27.:01:31.

answer was always, borrow more money. Now they're out of office

:01:32.:01:35.

it's borrow more money. Whatever the day, whatever the question,

:01:35.:01:40.

whatever the weather, it's borrow more money. Borrow, borrow, borrow.

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Labour, the party of one notion - borrowing! APPLAUSE

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There are times I wonder whether they know anything about the real

:01:59.:02:06.

economy at all. Did you hear last week what Ed Miliband said about

:02:06.:02:12.

taxes? He described a tax cut as the Government writing people a

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cheque. I hope you don't mind, I just want to explain it for him. Ed,

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this is how it works. When people earn money, it's their money. Not

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:02:32.:02:36.

the Government's money, it's their money. APPLAUSE

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Don't interrupt, I don't want him to lose the thread. Then the

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Government takes some of it away in tax. So, if we cut taxes, we're not

:02:45.:02:55.
:02:55.:02:56.

giving them money, we're taking less of it away. OK? Got it?

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APPLAUSE You know what, while we are on it, who suffers when the

:03:01.:03:06.

wealthy businessman goes off to live in Geneva? Not him. It's those

:03:06.:03:14.

who want to work, because the jobs, the investment, the growth will go

:03:14.:03:21.

somewhere else. APPLAUSE Now we promised that those with the

:03:21.:03:24.

broadest shoulders would bear the biggest burden, and with us the

:03:24.:03:29.

rich will pay a greater share of tax in every year of this

:03:29.:03:38.

parliament than in any one of the 13 years under Labour. Under Labour.

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APPLAUSE We haven't forgotten what it was

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like under Labour. We remember who spent our golden legacy, who sold

:03:48.:03:53.

our gold, who busted our banks, smothered our businesses, racked up

:03:53.:03:57.

debts, who wrecked our economy, ruined our reputation, who risked

:03:57.:03:59.

our future. Who did this? Labour did this and our country should

:03:59.:04:09.
:04:09.:04:16.

never forget it. APPLAUSE Now get our country on the rise, to

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get Britain on the rise, we need a whole new economy. More

:04:20.:04:24.

enterprising, more aspirational. And it is taking shape already. We

:04:24.:04:29.

are getting back our entrepreneurial streak. Last year

:04:29.:04:33.

the rate of new business creation was faster than any other year in

:04:33.:04:37.

our history. Let me repeat that. The rate at which new businesses

:04:37.:04:43.

started, faster last year than ever before. We are making things again.

:04:43.:04:47.

We had a trade surplus in cars for the first time in almost 40 years.

:04:47.:04:50.

And it's not just the old industries that are growing, it's

:04:50.:04:54.

the new ones. We are number one in the world for offshore wind. Number

:04:54.:04:59.

one in the world for tidal power. We have the world's first green

:04:59.:05:02.

investment bank. Britain leading, Britain on the rise. We're showing

:05:02.:05:07.

we can do it. Look at the new investment that's coming in. In the

:05:07.:05:13.

last two years, Google, Intel, Cisco, the big tech firms. They've

:05:13.:05:18.

all set up new bases here. And we are selling to the world again.

:05:18.:05:22.

When I became Prime Minister, I said to the Foreign Office, those

:05:22.:05:25.

embassies you have got, turn them into showrooms for our cars,

:05:25.:05:29.

department stores for our fashion, technology hubs for British

:05:29.:05:35.

startups. Yes, you are diplomats and as William said in that

:05:35.:05:43.

fantastic speech you are the best on the globe but you need to be our

:05:43.:05:50.

country's salesforce. APPLAUSE And when we look at what's

:05:50.:05:56.

happening, in just two years our exports to Brazil up 25%, to China

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up 40%, to Russia up 80%. There are so many opportunities in this world.

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I want to tell you briefly about just one business that is really

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seizing them. It's run bay guy called Alastair Lukies. He and his

:06:11.:06:18.

partner saw a world with almost six billion mobile phones but two

:06:18.:06:21.

billion bank accounts. They saw this huge gap in the market and

:06:21.:06:25.

they started a mobile banking firm, helping people in the poorest parts

:06:25.:06:29.

of the world manage their money and start new companies, using their

:06:29.:06:33.

mobile phones. He has been with me on trade missions all over the

:06:33.:06:38.

world. And his business is booming. Back in 2010 when we came to office,

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they employed about 100 people. Now it's more than 700. Back then they

:06:44.:06:49.

were nowhere in Africa. Nowhere in Asia. Now they're the global player

:06:49.:06:54.

with one million new users every month. So don't let anyone tell us

:06:54.:07:01.

that Britain can't make it in this world. We are the most enterprising,

:07:01.:07:11.
:07:11.:07:12.

buccaneering, creative, dynamic nation on earth. APPLAUSE

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And to those who question whether it's right for me to load up a

:07:16.:07:20.

plane with business people, whether we are flying to Africa, Indonesia,

:07:20.:07:23.

the Gulf or China, whether we are taking people from energy, finance,

:07:23.:07:28.

technology, or yes, defence, I say this - there is a global battle out

:07:28.:07:32.

there to win jobs, orders, and contracts and in that battle I

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believe in leading from the front. APPLAUSE

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But to get our economy on the rise, there's a lot more that we need to

:07:55.:07:57.

do. Frankly, there's a lot more fights to be had. Because there are

:07:57.:08:00.

too many people out there that Wye call the yes-but-no people, the

:08:00.:08:02.

ones who say yes, our businesses need to expand, but no, we can't

:08:02.:08:06.

reform planning. It's simple. For a business to expand, it needs places

:08:07.:08:12.

to build. If it just takes too long, they'll will just build elsewhere.

:08:12.:08:17.

I visited a business the other day that wanted to open a big factory

:08:17.:08:20.

right outside Liverpool. But the council was going to take so long

:08:20.:08:24.

to approve the decision that they're now building that factory

:08:24.:08:28.

on the continent. They're taking hundreds of jobs with them. If we

:08:28.:08:32.

are going to be a winner in this global race, we have got to beat

:08:32.:08:42.
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off this suffocating bureaucracy once and for all. APPLAUSE

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And then there are those who say, yes, of course we need more housing,

:08:49.:08:57.

but no to every development, and not in my back yard. House-building

:08:57.:09:01.

isn't just a vital engine of our economy, it goes much, much wider

:09:01.:09:06.

and bigger than that. It's OK for my generation, many of us have got

:09:06.:09:11.

on the ladder. But do you know the average age that someone buys their

:09:11.:09:18.

home today, without help from their parties? It is 33 years old. We are

:09:18.:09:28.
:09:28.:09:29.

the party of home ownership and we cannot let this go on. So yes,

:09:29.:09:31.

we're doubling the discount for buying your council house, we are

:09:31.:09:33.

helping first-time buyers with 95% mortgages. But there's something

:09:33.:09:36.

else we need to do, and that's accept that we need to build a lot

:09:36.:09:41.

more houses in Britain. There are people, young people who work hard,

:09:41.:09:46.

year after year, but they're still living at home. They sit in their

:09:46.:09:48.

childhood bedroom looking out the window, dreaming of a place of

:09:48.:09:53.

their own and I want us to say you are our people, we are on your side,

:09:53.:10:03.
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we will help you achieve your dreams. APPLAUSE

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If we want our people to rise so Britain can rise, we must tackle

:10:14.:10:21.

welfare. Here are two facts for you. Fact one - we spend �80 billion a

:10:21.:10:26.

year on welfare for working age people. Not pensions, just welfare

:10:26.:10:32.

for working age people. That's one in eight of every pound that the

:10:33.:10:37.

Government spends. Fact two - more of our children live in households

:10:37.:10:43.

where nobody works than almost any other nation in Europe. Let me put

:10:43.:10:48.

it simply, welfare isn't working, and this is a tragedy. Our reforms

:10:48.:10:54.

are just as profound as those of Beveridge 60 years ago. He had his

:10:54.:10:59.

great evils to slay, squalor, ignorance, want, idleness and

:10:59.:11:06.

disease. Here are mine - first, unfairness. What are hard-working

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people who travel long distances to get into work and pay their taxes

:11:10.:11:15.

meant to think when they see families, individual families,

:11:15.:11:20.

getting 40, 50, 60,000 of housing benefit to live in homes that these

:11:20.:11:24.

hard-working people could never afford themselves? It is an outrage

:11:24.:11:34.
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and we are ending it by capping housing benefit. APPLAUSE

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The second evil - injustice. Here is the choice that we give our

:11:44.:11:51.

young people today. Choice one - work hard, go to college, get a job,

:11:51.:11:56.

live at home, save up for a flat. As I have just said, that can feel

:11:56.:12:01.

like forever. Choice two - don't get a job. Sign on. Don't even need

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to produce a CV when you do sign on. Get housing benefit, get a flat,

:12:05.:12:08.

and then don't ever get a job or you will lose a load of that

:12:08.:12:12.

housing benefit. We must be crazy. This is what we've done. Now you

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have to sign up a contract that says do you your bit, and we'll do

:12:17.:12:23.

ours. It requires you to have a real CV and makes clear you have to

:12:23.:12:33.
:12:33.:12:38.

seek work and take work or you will lose your benefits. APPLAUSE

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and we are going to look at ending automatic access to housing benefit

:12:42.:12:48.

for people under 25, too. Let me put it like this, if hard-working

:12:48.:12:52.

young people have to live at home while they work and save, why

:12:52.:13:02.

should it be any different for those who don't? APPLAUSE

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The next evil - bureaucracy. Sign on, sign here. Come back in a

:13:08.:13:11.

fortnight. Repeat as required. What does this do for the guy who's been

:13:11.:13:15.

out of work for years, even decades, who's playing computer games all

:13:15.:13:19.

day, living out some fantasy because he hates his real life? For

:13:19.:13:23.

people like like him we have to do something new and we are. The work

:13:23.:13:26.

programme takes the money we are going to save from getting people

:13:26.:13:31.

off the dole, and it uses it to get them into work with proper training.

:13:31.:13:37.

We're prepared to spend up to �14,000 on one individual to get

:13:37.:13:42.

them into work and already almost 700,000 people have got on to the

:13:42.:13:46.

Work Programme. I want us to be clear in this party, in British

:13:46.:13:51.

politics today it is this party that's saying no one is a write-off,

:13:51.:13:54.

no one is hopeless, and with Iain Duncan Smith leading this

:13:54.:13:58.

revolution let us be the party that shows there is ability and promise

:13:58.:14:08.
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in each and everyone of our citizens. APPLAUSE

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And just one more thing on welfare. You know our work experience

:14:18.:14:21.

programme, where we give young people a chance to work in a

:14:21.:14:27.

supermarket, a shop, or in an office? Here's what one trade union

:14:27.:14:33.

official said about it. I quote: The scheme belongs back in the 19th

:14:33.:14:36.

century, along with Oliver Twist and the workhouse. It is nothing

:14:36.:14:46.
:14:46.:14:49.

short of state-sponsored slavery. What a snobish, appalling, outdated,

:14:49.:14:55.

wrong-idea to the work. We are giving them a chance. What's is

:14:55.:14:59.

cruel is not asking something of people, it's when we ask nothing of

:14:59.:15:06.

them. Work isn't slavery, it's poverty that is slavery. Let us,

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the modern compassionate Conservative Party who are the real

:15:08.:15:18.
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champions of fighting poverty in To help people rise, to help

:15:26.:15:30.

Britain rise, there is a third - crucial - thing we must do. Educate

:15:30.:15:35.

all our children. And I mean really educate them, not just pump up the

:15:35.:15:42.

grades each year. In maths, in science, the reading, we've fallen

:15:42.:15:47.

behind, not just behind Germany and Canada, but behind Estonia and

:15:47.:15:52.

Australia, too. This is Britain's real School Report and it reads

:15:52.:15:58.

"must do better". Now you have heard of pushly parents, sharp-

:15:58.:16:02.

elbowing their way to a better education for their children. This

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is a push lish Government. My approach is very, very -- pushy

:16:06.:16:10.

Government. My approach is very, very simple. I have two children in

:16:10.:16:13.

primary school. I want for your children what I want for mine. To

:16:13.:16:17.

go to schools where discipline is strict, where expectations are high

:16:17.:16:23.

and where no excuses are accepted for failure. I don't want great

:16:23.:16:27.

schools to be the preserve of those that can pay the fees or buy the

:16:27.:16:32.

nice house in the catchment area. I want those schools to be open to

:16:32.:16:34.

every child in every neighbourhood. The reason I know that every child

:16:34.:16:39.

can go to a school like this is because with this Government, more

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and more new ones are opening. You have heard from some of them this

:16:43.:16:48.

week, not just the 79 new free schools with over 100 more to come,

:16:48.:16:55.

but you have heard from some of the 2,000 academies we have helped to

:16:55.:17:03.

create. These are state schools given all the freedoms and carrying

:17:03.:17:06.

all the high expectations of private schools. That is my plan.

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Millions of children sent to independent schools, independent

:17:09.:17:19.
:17:19.:17:23.

schools in the state sector. APPLAUSE It is a genuine revolution

:17:23.:17:28.

that's under way. The Harris Academy in Peckham has increased

:17:28.:17:35.

the number of students getting five good GCSEs from 12%, when it was

:17:35.:17:40.

under local authority control, to almost 90% now. The transformation

:17:40.:17:45.

has been astonishing and you know what, the methods have been

:17:45.:17:50.

Conservative. Smart uniforms, teachers in suits. Children taught

:17:50.:17:55.

physics, chemistry and biology, not soft options. Children set by

:17:55.:17:59.

ability with excellence applauded, extra resources for those in need

:17:59.:18:06.

but no excuses for slacking. When you see as a parent schools like

:18:06.:18:12.

that, it prompts one question: Why can't every school be that way? Why

:18:12.:18:16.

can't all our children have those chances? It is not because parents

:18:16.:18:20.

aren't ambitious enough. Most of these schools are massively

:18:20.:18:24.

oversubscribed. It is because the old educational establishment, the

:18:24.:18:28.

left-wing local authorities, the leaders of the teacher unions, the

:18:28.:18:31.

Labour Party theorists, it is because they stand in the way. When

:18:31.:18:37.

we saw a badly-failing school in Haringey and we wanted to turn it

:18:37.:18:41.

into an academy, the Labour authority, the Labour MP and the

:18:41.:18:45.

teacher unions all said no. When inspirational teachers and parents

:18:45.:18:48.

in Hammersmith, in Norwich, in Bristol, in Wigan, when they wanted

:18:48.:18:53.

to open free schools, the left-wing establishment said no. When we have

:18:53.:18:57.

proposed more pay for good teachers, getting rid of bad teachers, longer

:18:57.:19:01.

school days to help children learn, flexible school hours to help

:19:01.:19:08.

parents work, less nonsense about health and safety, the left-wing

:19:08.:19:16.

establishment have said one thing - no. You know what? When you ask why

:19:16.:19:22.

is a school failing, why aren't the children succeeding, you hear the

:19:22.:19:28.

same thing over and over again. What can you expect with children

:19:28.:19:35.

like these? These children are disadvantaged. Of course, we want

:19:35.:19:39.

to tackle every disadvantage, but isn't the greatest disadvantage of

:19:39.:19:46.

all being written off by those so in hock to a culture of low

:19:46.:19:51.

expectations, that they have forgotten what it is like to be

:19:51.:19:56.

ambitious, to want to transcend your background, to overcome

:19:56.:20:02.

circumstance and succeed on your own terms? It's that toxic culture

:20:02.:20:06.

of low expectations - that lack of ambition for every child - which

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has held this country back. I can tell you... APPLAUSE Let me tell

:20:12.:20:18.

you a thing or two about Michael Gove and I. We are not waiting for

:20:18.:20:22.

an outbreak of sanity at the headquarters of the NUT. We are not

:20:22.:20:26.

waiting for some great embrace of aspiration in the higher reaches of

:20:26.:20:33.

Labour before we act. Because our children can't wait. So when people

:20:33.:20:37.

say please slow down your education reform so somehow adults can learn

:20:37.:20:42.

to adjust to them, I say no. I want more free schools, more academies,

:20:42.:20:46.

more rigorous exams, more expected of every child in every school. To

:20:46.:20:51.

those who say - and some do - he wants children to have the kind of

:20:51.:20:56.

education he had at his posh school. You know what I say? Yes, you are

:20:56.:20:59.

absolutely right. I went to a great school. I want every child to have

:20:59.:21:09.
:21:09.:21:19.

that sort of education! APPLAUSE I'm not here to defend privilege,

:21:19.:21:29.
:21:29.:21:34.

I'm here to spread it. APPLAUSE I don't have a hard luck story. My

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Dad was a stockbroker from Berkshire. LAUGHTER It's only when

:21:42.:21:46.

your Dad's gone that you realise - not just how much you miss them -

:21:46.:21:50.

or how much you really love them - but how much you really owe them.

:21:50.:21:56.

My Dad influenced me much more than I ever thought. He was born with no

:21:56.:22:00.

heels on his feet, with legs that are about a foot shorter than they

:22:00.:22:05.

were meant to be, but he never complained even when he lost those

:22:05.:22:10.

legs later in his life. Because disability in the 1930s was such a

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sigma, he was an only child. Probably a lonely child. But my Dad

:22:16.:22:21.

was the eternal optimist. To him the glass was always half-full.

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Usually with something fairly alcoholic in it! LAUGHTER When I

:22:25.:22:29.

was a boy, I remember once going for a long walk with him in the

:22:29.:22:36.

village where we lived, and we walked passed the church he

:22:36.:22:41.

supported all his life and passed the village hall where he took part

:22:41.:22:45.

in long Parish Council meetings. He told me what he was most proud of.

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It was simple - working hard from the moment he left school and

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providing a good start in life for his family. Not just all of us, but

:22:52.:22:58.

helping his Mum, too, when his father ran off. Not a hard luck

:22:58.:23:06.

story, but a hard work story. Work hard. Family comes first. But put

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back into the community, too. There is nothing complicated about me. I

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believe in working hard, caring for my family and serving my country.

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There is nothing complicated about what we need today. This is still

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the greatest country on Earth. We showed that again this summer. 22nd

:23:27.:23:33.

in world population. Third in the medals table. But it's tough. These

:23:33.:23:38.

are difficult times. We're being tested. How will we come through

:23:38.:23:44.

it? Again, it's not complicated. Hard work. Strong families. Taking

:23:44.:23:50.

responsibility. Serving others. As I said on the steps of Number Ten

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Downing Street before walking through that door, "Those who can

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should, those who can't we will always help." The job of this party,

:23:59.:24:02.

this Government, is to help bring out the best in this country.

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Because at our best we are unbeatable. We know Britain can

:24:06.:24:10.

deliver because we have seen it time and time again. This is the

:24:10.:24:15.

country that invented the computer, defeated the Nazis, started the web,

:24:15.:24:20.

sauf off the slave trade, unravelled DNA, fought off every

:24:20.:24:24.

invader for a thousand years. We even persuaded the Queen to jump

:24:24.:24:29.

out of a helicopter to make the rest of the world smile. There is

:24:29.:24:38.

nothing we can't do. Can we make Britain the best place in the world

:24:38.:24:42.

to start a business, grow a business and to help that business

:24:42.:24:46.

take on the world and win? Yes. Can we the people, the people who

:24:46.:24:53.

invented the welfare state in the first place turn it into something

:24:53.:24:58.

that rewards efforts, helps keep families together and really help

:24:58.:25:01.

the poorest with a new start in life? Yes. Can we take our schools

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and turn our students that will take on the brightest in the world?

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Yes, of course we can. Let us here in this hall, here in this

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Government, together in this country make this predge, let's

:25:16.:25:21.

build an aspiration nation. Let's get Britain on the rise. Deficit,

:25:21.:25:24.

paid down. Tough decisions, taken. Growth, fired up. Aspiration,

:25:24.:25:29.

backed all the way. We know what it takes to win, to win in the tough

:25:29.:25:33.

world of today, to win for all our people, to win for Britain. So

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let's get out there and do it! APPLAUSE

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STUDIO: The Prime Minister has finished speaking. He had it all

:25:41.:25:46.

written down this time. We were able to time it quite carefully. He

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is calling his wife up on to the stage as he takes the applause. The

:25:50.:25:54.

aspiration nation, that was the theme of the Prime Minister's

:25:54.:25:58.

speech. And like all politicians, he used the Olympic analogy, the

:25:58.:26:02.

country had done so well in the Games, he wanted to compete as a

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nation in the new global race with new emerging economies and markets

:26:07.:26:12.

springing up all over the globe. He made sure to name-check Afghanistan

:26:12.:26:16.

and our troops there, calling for applause for the work they are

:26:16.:26:20.

doing and for the lives that have been lost there. There was a

:26:20.:26:24.

standing ovation for over one minute. He said they weren't the

:26:24.:26:28.

party of the rich. Interestingly, without naming it, he said he had

:26:28.:26:33.

gone to a posh school, he wasn't going to apologise for that. He had

:26:33.:26:36.

a great education and he wanted everyone else to have as good an

:26:36.:26:41.

education as he had. He of course had a side-swipe at Labour, having

:26:41.:26:45.

gone for the one-nation theme last week. He talked of Labour saying

:26:45.:26:49.

they may preach about one nation, but they practise class war. And he

:26:49.:26:54.

said Labour was the party of one- notion, which was borrowing. So

:26:54.:27:00.

just looking at the words, it was a well-constructed speech, as Mr

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Miliband's was. It will have gone down well with the party faithful

:27:04.:27:14.
:27:14.:27:17.

there. He struck the right chords, it was something that they wanted

:27:17.:27:22.

to hear. A slightly different David Cameron to the one that became

:27:22.:27:32.
:27:32.:27:47.

leader in 2005, when there was barely a green mention.

:27:47.:27:52.

We are going to get some expert reaction. First, we want to hear

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the people who matter - that's you. The e-mails?

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Yes, there was a lot of praise for the delivery of the speech. "The

:28:02.:28:05.

pressure against David Cameron to deliver a strong speech, he has

:28:05.:28:14.

done that. Full of detail. While answering the critics."

:28:14.:28:21.

Gary, got to hand it to the guy, a fantastic speech, expertly

:28:21.:28:27.

delivered. When it comes to speechifying, Cameron is making

:28:27.:28:37.
:28:37.:28:40.

Miliband look like an amateur." "Some good digs over one-nation.

:28:40.:28:43.

Very solid on the economy and telling the truth. This has

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substance and policy and he is doing well." This from Amanda,

:28:48.:28:52.

"Voters are interested in the economy and not in David Cameron's

:28:52.:29:00.

family. We need jobs that pay well." This from Peter, "David

:29:00.:29:04.

Cameron said the Conservative Party should be proud about saving

:29:04.:29:08.

hundreds of children's' lives through international aid. No, no,

:29:08.:29:12.

no, the money belongs to the British people, not the

:29:12.:29:17.

Conservative Party. The British people should be proud." This from

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Kath, "Does David Cameron think we are all nit wits? Labour - borrow,

:29:23.:29:27.

borrow and borrow. What are the Conservatives doing? Borrow, borrow

:29:27.:29:34.

and yet more borrowing." Is that enough borrowers?

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Give me your instant reaction? thought it was well-crafted. What

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it did was to take the hard messages and marpry them with the

:29:44.:29:48.

tender messages -- marry them with the tender messages. We can only

:29:48.:29:52.

get out of the economic problems we have through hard work, through

:29:52.:29:57.

tackling welfare abuse and this is the way to relieve poverty. Work is

:29:57.:30:00.

the answer to poverty. In that sense, it was a very balanced

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:30:10.:30:15.

What's new about saying work is the way? That's what, whether he

:30:15.:30:18.

delivered it or not is not for me to decide but Gordon Brown thought

:30:18.:30:23.

work was the way. What's different? As I said at the beginning, what

:30:23.:30:26.

this this speech was about, was about reconnecting with the

:30:26.:30:30.

Conservative Party, emphasising Conservative values, emphasising

:30:30.:30:33.

that the Coalition is doing Conservative things and not just

:30:33.:30:36.

doing the bidding of the Lib Dems. That's what it was really all about.

:30:36.:30:40.

All right. Let's go straight back to Birmingham to our political

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editor, Nick Robinson. Give us your impressions. David Cameron doesn't

:30:45.:30:50.

do the great stirring conference oratory. At times I felt it was

:30:50.:30:54.

like a head teacher delivering an address to the school or a Church

:30:54.:30:57.

of England vicar delivering a sermon. A lot of it he was trying

:30:57.:31:01.

to teach the audience, look, this is very hard, he was saying, to the

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Conservative Party and to the country. The whole tone of it

:31:05.:31:09.

really was, I know we are not where we hoped to be as a party, as a

:31:09.:31:13.

country, I know we haven't sorted out the deficit and got growth in

:31:13.:31:17.

the way that I had dreamed of doing. But we can do it. Trying to capture

:31:17.:31:20.

once again as we have seen throughout this conference season,

:31:21.:31:25.

that Olympic spirit. But it was very, very short, in fact absent of

:31:25.:31:29.

new policies. What it was really doing was an appeal to the country,

:31:29.:31:32.

saying, look, the reason we are dealing with the deficit, with

:31:32.:31:36.

welfare, dealing with the schools, is because if we don't the country

:31:36.:31:39.

is sunk. It will lose the competition, the great global race

:31:39.:31:43.

as he described it, not just against the famous big developing

:31:43.:31:47.

countries like China and India, but countries he has visited in weeks

:31:47.:31:52.

and months, Mexico, Brazil, and others. Interesting how much of the

:31:52.:31:58.

speech was defined by other events and other speeches, whether it's Mr

:31:58.:32:01.

Miliband's speech last week talking about one nation or the continuing

:32:01.:32:05.

problems with Andrew Mitchell and the sense of a posh Minister

:32:05.:32:09.

referring to a policeman as plebs. The Prime Minister went out of his

:32:09.:32:14.

way to try to deal with all these issues, he had to deal with what

:32:14.:32:19.

people are saying about him and his party. In that sense it was pretty

:32:19.:32:22.

defensive. They say this about us, but we say that. They say this

:32:23.:32:26.

about us, but we say the other. Again and again he was having to

:32:26.:32:29.

deal, as you say, with the suggestion that he was privileged,

:32:29.:32:33.

the suggestion that he was elitist, the suggestion that the Tories

:32:33.:32:37.

didn't care about the poor and again and again he had to pose

:32:37.:32:41.

those phrases and try and answer them. I would be very surprised

:32:41.:32:47.

indeed if we don't see on YouTube by the end of the day someone's

:32:47.:32:53.

who's cut together him using the phrases. Rich, posh, privileged.

:32:53.:32:57.

They'll edit them together and say there you are, it's coming out of

:32:57.:33:01.

his own mouth. If they weren't going to, they're going to now! I

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am sure you put an idea in people's minds. I get a sense that whether

:33:07.:33:11.

it reasonates on the country, we can't tell that at the moment, it

:33:11.:33:15.

probably - I got a feeling, you can tell us, I got a feeling it was

:33:15.:33:19.

going down well with the Tory faithful in the hall. Yes,

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interesting, I choose today not to sit - I often stand at the edge and

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I had a seat on a row of a group of Conservatives. They rather quietly

:33:30.:33:37.

kept saying "yes, that's right", there was that sense, like a sermon.

:33:37.:33:41.

Let's get clear, this is not a Michael Heseltine or Neil Kinnock,

:33:41.:33:45.

the sort of speakers that get the hair up on the back of your neck,

:33:45.:33:49.

who really create that revivalist rally, if you like that President

:33:49.:33:53.

Obama can do. He doesn't try to do it. He is not capable of doing it.

:33:53.:33:59.

He hasn't just done it. What he did instead is that that sort of sense

:33:59.:34:01.

in the Conservative Party of them saying that's right, I agree with

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that, thank goodness he said it. It's very kpwhrrb, -- English, if

:34:05.:34:08.

you like and David Cameron in that sense was being himself. It is

:34:08.:34:11.

interesting, I said before the speech, that Steve Hilton, the guy

:34:11.:34:16.

who went for the rhetoric, who told him to talk about sunshine and

:34:16.:34:20.

hugging trees and hoodies and the rest, he's gone and with it all

:34:20.:34:25.

that sort of rhetoric has gone, as well. Yes, we got the phrase that

:34:25.:34:29.

he hopes will stick on, I am not convinced it will last long, I have

:34:29.:34:33.

to say, aspiration nation. He was trying to make a gesture about

:34:33.:34:38.

talking to people who want their homes and their jobs and saying

:34:38.:34:44.

that he may be privileged but -- he wants to spread that privilege than

:34:44.:34:49.

restrict it. The phrase is one, like so many political phrases, it

:34:49.:34:53.

may not last that long. Aspiration nation sounds like a track from a

:34:53.:35:01.

house music album. It reveals the nightclubs you go to! I am the one

:35:01.:35:06.

putting these videos together, as well! Nick, I suggest to you this,

:35:06.:35:09.

he can make all the speeches he wants. He can have all the

:35:09.:35:14.

aspiration he wants. He can strike all the right chords as he sees it.

:35:14.:35:18.

But unless growth comes back to this economy and unless there is a

:35:18.:35:22.

sense that the pain has been worth it, unless people's living

:35:22.:35:27.

standards start to rise again instead of falling as they do now,

:35:27.:35:32.

he runs out of time to have any hope of winning an overall majority.

:35:32.:35:35.

I think that's right. I think he knows that's right. I think that's

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why in some ways the most striking passage of the speech for me was

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not any attempt at soaring rhetoric, nothing that got applause in the

:35:43.:35:46.

hall, there was a moment where I think what he was trying to do is

:35:46.:35:51.

look down the lens as I am doing now and speak to people directly at

:35:51.:35:55.

home or in their offices. When he said, look, it wasn't supposed to

:35:55.:35:59.

take this long, it wasn't supposed to be this difficult. We had hoped

:35:59.:36:04.

to be doing much better. Not his exact phrases, but the sentiment

:36:04.:36:07.

what he was trying to do is reach out to the country and say, look I

:36:07.:36:10.

do get this, you know, I am aware this wasn't exactly how it was

:36:10.:36:15.

supposed to go. But we are on the right track. Let's keep going.

:36:15.:36:19.

Remember, elections only have about one or two slogans and we are on

:36:19.:36:23.

the right track, don't turn back, is one of the slogans that

:36:23.:36:27.

governments always use. Oppositions always say, time for change. In a

:36:27.:36:31.

way, I think you got what are likely to be the key election

:36:32.:36:36.

phrases in this speech. That sense of, we are not there but we are

:36:36.:36:39.

getting there, don't change. Again what he described as the battle

:36:39.:36:42.

ground, the battlelines of the next election, you know, are you in

:36:42.:36:45.

favour of these sorts of welfare cuts, or are you against? In favour

:36:45.:36:49.

of those sort of school reforms, are you against? Are you in favour

:36:49.:36:53.

of cutting the deficit by cutting spending, or are you against? He

:36:53.:36:57.

was writing a script for the next two years of politics, not one that

:36:57.:37:02.

jumps off the page now, but will write the advertising slogans and

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speeches for a long time to come. Indeed I am sure that's right.

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Thank you for that and all your help during the party conferences,

:37:09.:37:14.

it's been great to have you. Yes, let's get a sense of how Mr

:37:14.:37:23.

Cameron's speech went down with the party members. Adam's with some now.

:37:23.:37:26.

Hi there. Have we got the aspiration nation, does that make

:37:26.:37:31.

these the aspiration delegation? Let's find out. What did you reckon

:37:31.:37:34.

of the speech? Very inspiring speech. We came to Birmingham and

:37:34.:37:38.

everyone thought we were going to and divided party. Here we are,

:37:38.:37:41.

backing Boris, backing Dave, backing George, we are here going

:37:41.:37:44.

forward for the country. What did you think about that phrase

:37:44.:37:48.

aspiration nation? I think Cameron has shown us that we are an active

:37:48.:37:54.

party. We do what we say we are going to do. We just don't talk

:37:54.:37:59.

about it. He has given us objectives for the future. With his

:37:59.:38:04.

clear leadership we can do them. Who next? Marks out of ten? It's

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going to be ten out of ten. That's the best best speech I have heard

:38:08.:38:12.

our Prime Minister do ever. It was aspiration as our friends have said,

:38:12.:38:17.

he talked about the nation. We are all in this together. It's all

:38:17.:38:20.

walks of life. It's given everybody that inspiration and opportunity.

:38:21.:38:24.

The Prime Minister didn't talk the country down. It was Britain on the

:38:24.:38:29.

rise. It was a fabulous speech. did warn about that sink or swim

:38:29.:38:34.

moment. Who wants to tell me what the mood was like in the hall.

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Electric. I honestly think that it's the messiah Britain needed.

:38:40.:38:44.

Cameron is the Messiah. That Britain needed and we have it in

:38:44.:38:46.

David Cameron. Britain's going to go from strength to strength. I

:38:46.:38:52.

want to say, I am a Muslim councillor and I want to tell you

:38:52.:38:56.

that Islam teaches Conservativism, it's a home for them to join the

:38:56.:39:00.

Conservative Party, because we can be successful together. A nice

:39:00.:39:04.

political broadcast there. Are you going to talk to us live? Marks out

:39:04.:39:08.

of ten for your boss's speech? solid nine. This is a Prime

:39:08.:39:10.

Minister that's going to lead to us victory at the next election. It

:39:11.:39:15.

was a solid performance. It was a very, very good speech indeed.

:39:15.:39:19.

of your backbench colleagues have been calling for more measures on

:39:19.:39:23.

growth, I didn't really hear any. In my experience there are a lot of

:39:23.:39:26.

successful small engineering and manufacturing businesses in my

:39:26.:39:30.

constituency. Georgiev has been to -- George Osborne has been to my

:39:30.:39:34.

constituency. I think they're pleased with the reduction deficit

:39:34.:39:38.

measures giving them confidence to win more business and this has to

:39:38.:39:43.

be a private sector-led recovery. My part of the world we are doing

:39:43.:39:47.

our bit to help with that growth that we need. Chris Kelly, the MP,

:39:47.:39:52.

thank you. Now you are a councillor. I am. Marks out of ten for the

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speech? Chris gave it nine out of ten. It would have been ten, if he

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promised a referendum on the EU. I thought he was going to mention

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something in his speech. He ducked the issue which disappointed me. I

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would have liked him to go further on Europe. How How angry are you

:40:11.:40:14.

about that? I am disappointed because he had been hinting a few

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days ago there would be some kind of vote and that's what he's been

:40:18.:40:21.

leading us to believe and there was nothing. I was waiting to hear that.

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A bit disappointed. Interesting. Thank you. A female delegate, at

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last! What did you think about the Prime Minister talking about his

:40:30.:40:39.
:40:40.:40:41.

son and his late father? I thought it really touched a chord. It was

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really intense and emotional. It wasn't something that was

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unnecessary, it really gave something to the speech. I didn't

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feel like it was being added in for simply his own - his own

:40:52.:40:56.

experiences are really important. It was good. Who saw Boris

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yesterday? Who would like to compare the two? Difficult to

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compare those, very different styles. Which one did you prefer?

:41:06.:41:14.

couldn't possibly comment. Boris entertainment factor, 11. But

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statesmanship, it was Mr Cameron. You have all been entertaining,

:41:17.:41:21.

thank you for talking to us. Conference has been packed up, back

:41:21.:41:28.

to the studio. Well, of course... The Messiah he

:41:28.:41:32.

was saying! The Daily Politics was on air when he came back. Thank you

:41:32.:41:35.

for that religious reference. David Cameron will be thrilled. Exactly,

:41:35.:41:39.

I am thrilled. Before we move on, picking up on that point, which

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speech did you prefer? Did you prefer Boris or did you like David

:41:43.:41:46.

Cameron's more? For a Prime Minister, David Cameron's was

:41:47.:41:52.

obviously the best. There's a surprise! I am not saying Boris one

:41:52.:41:56.

day can't be leader but I would like to see him as Minister first.

:41:56.:42:00.

Some of the other things mentioned there, on the referendum on Europe,

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was it a mistake not to talk about it in the speech? He has hinted

:42:04.:42:08.

about it all week. There is a lot of talk about it. Why not put it in

:42:08.:42:11.

the speech? He might have put it in the speech. I imagine he is going

:42:11.:42:16.

to return to that. He has mentioned it several times. He's been

:42:16.:42:19.

trailing his coat on this, saying either a referendum or something at

:42:19.:42:22.

the time of the election. Most people want a referendum, not a

:42:22.:42:27.

reference to it just in the manifesto. They definitely want to

:42:27.:42:32.

have a choice on the ballot paper for each person to make. On the

:42:32.:42:37.

issue of austerity, this wasn't all about austerity, this was about

:42:37.:42:42.

aspiration. But as one of the delegates there said, where were

:42:42.:42:46.

the growth, or was asked, where were the growth policies? Should

:42:46.:42:49.

there have been more specifically about this is what we are going to

:42:49.:42:54.

do to achieve that growth that's been eleading us? -- eleading us. I

:42:54.:42:59.

know all the time people are calling for growth passages, --

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packages, the reality is you can't attach a car to a jump lead and it

:43:03.:43:07.

goes off. Economies are not like a car in a snow storm. The most

:43:07.:43:11.

important thing, in my opinion, is actually first getting the deficit

:43:11.:43:16.

down. This is a real threat to us. We sometimes forget that other

:43:16.:43:19.

countries have reduced their deficits far quicker than we are.

:43:19.:43:24.

We are going gradual about it. When people talk... Because they haven't

:43:24.:43:30.

cut enough? No, I think the Government's programme is properly

:43:30.:43:33.

calibrated. But what's happening in the eurozone, for example, they're

:43:33.:43:38.

reducing their deficits much faster than we are. We could be left

:43:38.:43:42.

looking quite exposed. I think the Government's approach is designed

:43:42.:43:46.

to be balanced, both to allow the growth to happen, but also to get

:43:46.:43:53.

the deficit down. OK. Thank you. Let's go back to Birmingham and the

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Culture Secretary Maria Miller, recently joined the Cabinet and

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joins us from Birmingham. Welcome to the Daily Politics. The Prime

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Minister's theme was that Britain's on the rise again. Isn't the harsh

:44:05.:44:09.

truth the only thing we are sure that is on the rise is that the

:44:09.:44:14.

deficit is on the rise again? think what we have just had from

:44:14.:44:19.

the Prime Minister is an immensely powerful speech, setting out the

:44:19.:44:24.

true battle ground that we need to move forward on, talking about how

:44:24.:44:29.

we become a globally more competitive nation through things

:44:29.:44:32.

like welfare reform, educational reform, but also making sure that

:44:32.:44:36.

Britain is a great place to do business. What's the answer to my

:44:36.:44:40.

question, that the deficit is on the rise again? Well, the answer to

:44:40.:44:45.

your question is that we have cut the deficit by a quarter. That was

:44:45.:44:53.

last year. It's rising again. you know, it's early days in this

:44:53.:44:56.

year. We have got the plans in place to make sure we get the

:44:56.:44:58.

deficit under control. Unfortunately, we heard from Labour

:44:58.:45:02.

last week that they would do more to increase the deficit in the

:45:02.:45:05.

future. That may or may not be true, I am not talking about Labour. I am

:45:05.:45:08.

talking about you. Are you telling viewers that in this financial year

:45:08.:45:16.

the deficit will be smaller than it We need to make sure the financial

:45:16.:45:21.

year comes to an end. You will know that the financial figures were

:45:21.:45:23.

reviewsed recently for last year. What you need to be looking at -

:45:23.:45:26.

what the whole nation will be looking at - is what the Prime

:45:26.:45:30.

Minister has been setting out as our real battlegrounds for fighting

:45:30.:45:34.

the next two years to get Britain back on track so that it is the

:45:34.:45:38.

competitive nation we need it to be. We are dealing with a global

:45:38.:45:41.

economy now. It is no good looking at our near neighbours. We need to

:45:41.:45:45.

be looking on a global level as to how we become a nation that can

:45:45.:45:50.

succeed and not get left behind. That is powerful and will resonate

:45:51.:45:54.

beyond Birmingham. Mr Cameron said that the Tories are for everyone,

:45:54.:45:59.

North or South, black or white. It is hardly going to work if your

:45:59.:46:06.

Conservative Leader in Scotland describes 90% of Scots as

:46:06.:46:10.

"scroungers"? What David Cameron was talking about today was true of

:46:10.:46:13.

this party. You saw the reaction in the Hall. We are all about the

:46:13.:46:17.

party of aspiration. We are about giving people that opportunity for

:46:17.:46:21.

the future. Coupled with that, we have to make sure we have a

:46:21.:46:25.

farewell fair state. The work that Iain Duncan Smith has been doing

:46:25.:46:28.

has really made sure that that would be a reality. If you are the

:46:28.:46:33.

party of one nation, how does your own leader in Scotland describe 90%

:46:33.:46:41.

of Scots as living off the state, net-takers from the state? One-

:46:42.:46:47.

nation is making sure we give those people that were written off by the

:46:47.:46:51.

last Government a real chance. That is where the Work Programme, 3,000

:46:51.:46:55.

more people into work as a result of the effectiveness of that

:46:55.:46:58.

particular policy, shows that when we have got the right support in

:46:58.:47:01.

place we can really make a difference and perhaps working with

:47:01.:47:05.

the Scottish Government we need to make sure that even more people in

:47:05.:47:09.

Scotland have that opportunity, too. Mr Cameron said it is time to sink

:47:09.:47:14.

or swim. What are we doing at the moment? Well, what we are doing is

:47:14.:47:17.

clearly setting out the battleground for the future of this

:47:17.:47:21.

country. Are we sinking or swimming as we set out this battleground?

:47:21.:47:25.

is about swimming in a competitive global world. That is why it is so

:47:25.:47:29.

important that we are putting in the sort of infrastructure that I

:47:29.:47:33.

was talking about earlier today, making sure that 4G is brought

:47:33.:47:36.

forward by six months, making sure we have super-fast broadband,

:47:36.:47:40.

making sure that all of that infrastructure is in place so we

:47:40.:47:44.

cannot only attract international business, but retain it as well. I

:47:44.:47:49.

think that is a story of swimming. Maybe. But sometimes swimming

:47:49.:47:53.

against the tide. You have been in power for two-and-a-half years. Why

:47:53.:47:57.

haven't we got 4G now? New York has it. I can get it there. Why haven't

:47:57.:48:02.

we got it? Well, for two-and-a-half years we have been making sure we

:48:02.:48:08.

can work with the operators to put 4G in place. Why haven't we got it?

:48:08.:48:18.
:48:18.:48:18.

Never mind - stick with 4G, Minister. 4G is a key to a lot. Why

:48:18.:48:23.

has your Government failed to deliver and finds itself behind so

:48:23.:48:27.

many other countries when it comes to the new state-of-the-art

:48:27.:48:34.

technology? What you will know is that we will be bringing in 4G in

:48:34.:48:38.

the first half of last year - first half of next year. That is six

:48:38.:48:41.

months in advance of where it was supposed to happen. These are

:48:41.:48:47.

complex negotiations. It is not just about 4G. Making sure that we

:48:47.:48:54.

have got connectivity up-and-down the country is all about our-of-

:48:54.:48:59.

�500 million investment in super- fast broadband for rural areas as

:48:59.:49:04.

well. Altogether, we are pressing forward in a way that is

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impressive... We know the case. We are wondering when you are going to

:49:07.:49:12.

get it to us. Let me come on to Leveson now. You are not in a

:49:12.:49:17.

position to give us an opinion. Do you accept that you may come down

:49:17.:49:21.

in favour of statutory regulation of the press? Well, the important

:49:21.:49:25.

thing is if you have asked somebody to do a report, that you wait and

:49:25.:49:30.

listen to what it says before you come to a final conclusion. That is

:49:30.:49:34.

what the Government will be doing. Do you accept the principle that

:49:35.:49:38.

you may proceed to statutory regulation of the press? Well, I

:49:38.:49:42.

think what we have seen throughout the Leveson Inquiry is the sort of

:49:42.:49:45.

evidence which shows us that things have been an enormous problem in

:49:45.:49:49.

the past. I think the whole event has touched the nerve of the nation.

:49:49.:49:55.

What we need to do now is make sure that we wait, Lord Leveson is doing

:49:55.:49:58.

an important and fundamental report. We need to wait for those findings.

:49:58.:50:01.

Then the Government will respond to that. All right. Thank you very

:50:01.:50:06.

much for joining us. While we were talking to the

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Minister, the BBC is now reporting that the proposed merger, probably

:50:12.:50:17.

the biggest merge ner the history of the world -- merger in the

:50:17.:50:24.

history of the world between British Aerospace and EADS is off.

:50:24.:50:30.

What is your reaction to that? not surprised. Shareholders of

:50:30.:50:34.

British Aerospace probably were going to vote against it and I

:50:34.:50:39.

should think the board of the company were very conscious of that

:50:39.:50:49.

and of investor anger. Do you think the Government will in some ways be

:50:49.:50:57.

relieved that it is not going to happen? They might well be. British

:50:57.:51:00.

Aerospace has become increasingly American and it was going to be

:51:00.:51:06.

very difficult to have this tie-up. It makes it very difficult for

:51:06.:51:09.

British Aerospace, despite all the pitfalls that a merger could

:51:09.:51:16.

produce with the French and the German governments, British

:51:16.:51:21.

Aerospace is a huge company, it stays on its own, but it's

:51:21.:51:26.

dependent on defence contracts from the United States and from Britain.

:51:26.:51:30.

Both countries are cutting their defence budgets? That's right. Of

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course, there will be other defence contracts elsewhere in the world.

:51:34.:51:38.

There are rising defence budgets in Asia in particular. British

:51:38.:51:43.

Aerospace is going to have to meet that challenge. So our future, the

:51:43.:51:47.

future of the company depends on selling more arms to dictators in

:51:47.:51:51.

the developing world? It involves selling them to the Third World.

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They are not all dictators in South East Asia. There are quite a few of

:51:55.:52:01.

them. Dictators tend to be the big arms pirates? We sell to people

:52:01.:52:06.

that we regard as our friends and I'm sure they will have to look for

:52:06.:52:10.

new markets. Thank you. How is the speech going to be

:52:10.:52:17.

written up in tomorrow's papers? Kevin McGuire and Sam Coates join

:52:17.:52:21.

us. You have a few good slogans - Britain on the rise, we are on the

:52:22.:52:31.

right track. Any of those catch your eye? Yes, stick with me. He

:52:31.:52:38.

sounded like a slightly harsher Margaret Thatcher. It wasn't a bad

:52:38.:52:43.

effort for mid-term. There's one - there's two noticeable absences.

:52:43.:52:51.

One was "coalition". The second one is - I'm fairly certain he did not

:52:51.:52:54.

praise the police, despite those two police officers that were

:52:54.:52:58.

killed in Greater Manchester. That is unheard of. That is another nail

:52:58.:53:02.

in the coffin of Andrew Mitchell. While we are talking about it, we

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have heard that it's been talked about fairly openly at the

:53:07.:53:11.

Conference about Andrew Mitchell's future. Does it look as if his

:53:11.:53:16.

cards are marked? We haven't been told that he is going, but there is

:53:16.:53:20.

is a lot of chatter about it. I thought one indicator was that

:53:20.:53:24.

quite a lot of the speech was designed to address the question of

:53:24.:53:26.

whether or not the Conservative Party was a party that looked down

:53:27.:53:34.

on people as plebs or not. David Cameron should have spent a large

:53:34.:53:44.
:53:44.:53:54.

chunk of the speech from defending that. Kevin McGuire, he did manage

:53:54.:53:59.

to do that fairly effectively, answer the critics about the Tory

:53:59.:54:03.

Party being just a party for the rich, that he is a Prime Minister

:54:03.:54:09.

that was somehow privileged, more privileged than most people in the

:54:09.:54:16.

country. He did address all those concerns? It's a toxic word for him

:54:16.:54:26.
:54:26.:54:28.

- he wouldn't use "Eton" again. So he wouldn't say where it was. You

:54:28.:54:35.

wait until April and disabled kids are losing money and his welfare

:54:36.:54:42.

cuts. It will be harder for him to do it then. Everybody knows Ed

:54:43.:54:47.

Miliband isn't a class warrior. When times are tough, when he is

:54:47.:54:53.

coming up with that tax cut, it looks bad for him. If you take him

:54:53.:54:59.

at his word in the Hall, he made a good fist of it. If you analyse it,

:54:59.:55:04.

it looks less good for him. What about the narrative? Has a

:55:04.:55:07.

narrative been - he's been talking about it before - did it come

:55:07.:55:17.
:55:17.:55:18.

through strongly on school reform, on welfare savings? Oh yes,

:55:18.:55:23.

completely. What was interesting is that they are - some of David

:55:23.:55:26.

Cameron's aides are saying what we saw today was a speech that

:55:26.:55:30.

provides you with the theme for the election. This is very much the

:55:30.:55:35.

template. What was interesting was, yes, he did the one-nation

:55:35.:55:38.

Conservative, he sought to address those questions. He did another big

:55:38.:55:44.

and interesting thing. He talked about Britain at the crossroads.

:55:44.:55:49.

Effectively, things are getting better, don't let the other side

:55:49.:55:54.

mess it up. To inject fear into the debate quite this early could be

:55:54.:55:58.

taken as a defensive sign. It is interesting about just how much

:55:58.:56:02.

this speech was about answering the questions set by other people. I

:56:02.:56:05.

felt he was seeking to address the questions that have been raised in

:56:05.:56:09.

the media, the questions that have been railzed by his opponent. I

:56:09.:56:16.

thought -- raised by his opponent. I thought he did so fluently.

:56:16.:56:21.

message "stick with us", Kevin McGuire, at what is a difficult

:56:21.:56:25.

crossroads, and he put that notion in people's minds about Labour

:56:25.:56:29.

borrowing, borrowing, borrowing. Simple message, that he hopes will

:56:29.:56:34.

stick in people's minds? Yes, and a very good joke on the idea of

:56:34.:56:39.

Labour as a one-nation party, one notion - more borrowing, that is

:56:39.:56:42.

very good. If Labour is going to have any chance of winning, they

:56:42.:56:46.

have to win the argument they have lost for five years and that is

:56:46.:56:49.

what caused the financial crisis? Was it spending on schools and

:56:49.:56:53.

hospitals and public spending? Or was it the financial collapse?

:56:53.:56:58.

David Cameron plays it back every time on to Labour's public spending.

:56:58.:57:02.

Labour has not got an effective answer to that. Until they win a

:57:02.:57:07.

five-year-old argument, they will struggle to win in 2015. Let's

:57:07.:57:12.

rewind, we have the SNP Conference coming up. Over the last three

:57:12.:57:16.

weeks, give a very brief synopsis, the state of the parties, which

:57:16.:57:22.

leader has emerged triumphant? an odd party conference season. We

:57:22.:57:26.

are half-way through a five-year fixed term Parliament. There is a

:57:26.:57:30.

question about why we need to have these conferences at all. The

:57:30.:57:35.

simple answer is they make money for the political parties. Nick

:57:35.:57:40.

Clegg, as he always does, didn't face any dramatic challenge at his

:57:40.:57:47.

party. There is a big question with him over whether or not he can go

:57:47.:57:57.
:57:57.:57:59.

into the next election truly saying he is equidistant with the Tory

:57:59.:58:08.

Party. Fluent but question marks there. Labour I think, Ed Miliband

:58:08.:58:11.

railzed an answer to some of -- raised an answer to some of the

:58:11.:58:14.

questions that have been asked about him. He convinced those in

:58:14.:58:19.

the Hall that he did have what it takes to be a future Prime Minister.

:58:19.:58:26.

All right. Thank you both. Enjoy the last few moments.

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Multiple sources confirming the EADS-BA aerospace deal is off.

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Now time for Guess The Year. Press that button.

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Jim Carberry from Stirling. Well done. That is it. Thanks to

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Norman Lamont and to all of our guests. The One O'Clock News is

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