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Dramatic events in Paris this morning as French police carry out


a massive anti-terrorist operation following the attacks last Friday.


Armed units moved in early this morning, resulting


One female suspect reportedly blew herself up.


Another man is also said to have been killed.


The French government says the operation is now over.


David Cameron promises a "comprehensive strategy"


to deal with the threat posed by the so-called Islamic State.


So will that mean an imminent vote on extending


Jeremy Corbyn faces open revolt within the Labour Party over


his stance on military action and dealing with the terrorist threat.


Can the Labour leader reassert his authority at PMQs today?


This is New York City. No one tells us what neighbourhood to live in,


what team to root for or what Delhi to eat cat.


And slick American campaign techniques are now de rigeur


We speak to the American strategist who hopes to


All that in the 90 minutes, and with us for the whole of the programme


today, the Environment Minister, George Eustice, and the Shadow


Let's start with the dramatic events in Paris this


morning where armed police raided a flat in the suburb of Saint Denis


in an operation linked to Friday's terrorist attacks.


One female suspect blew herself up and another man was killed.


Five police officers were hurt and at least five people were


We can bring you some pictures of this now just as they come in. Saint


Denis is in that part of Paris, you see it on the way in on the


Eurostar, it is on the left. The National Stadium, the Stade de


France is also in this part, where two suicide bombers blew themselves


up on Friday night. These are not live pictures, but they are very


recent. This operation was launched at about 4am local time, and


involved over 100 police backed up by the army. The army now on the


streets in Paris for the first time in living memory in a sense of being


involved in anti-terrorist operations. If you have been to


Paris recently, you see the police around the Eiffel Tower, government


buildings, but the Army this morning involved in this anti-terrorist


operation. The police paramilitaries took the force of this, and it looks


like it was successful from the French police point of view. They


were very anxious, although it was a siege situation, to catch and get at


least one of the people they were after a live, because so many of


those involved on Friday night's atrocity either killed themselves


all were killed by the police as they were trying to take control


again. But they have now got somebody, at least one, perhaps two


people involved, who will now face interrogation from the French


security services. These live pictures coming in from Saint Denis


in Paris at what looks like the end of the anti-terrorist operation in


that particular part of Harris. JoCo.


That operation which had been going on all morning does look finished.


We had reports that some of the officers were taking off their


helmets, which looked as if they had got everybody they wanted to get.


There are also reports this morning that have not been confirmed that


the people holed up in that apartment were planning some sort of


attack on La Defence, the districts to the West.


Clearly a dangerous operation, with the police themselves suffering


casualties, we don't think any fatalities. And a police dog was


injured as well, we are told. The Prime Minister has promised to


present a "comprehensive strategy" to deal


with the so-called Islamic State. David Cameron told Parliament


yesterday that he would respond personally to


a sceptical report from the Commons Foreign Affairs Committee


published earlier this month. Mr Cameron believes that


the terrorist atrocities in Paris have strengthened the case


for air strikes in Syria and reports today suggest he could seek a


Parliamentary vote before Christmas. Though Downing Street this morning


began to play that down a bit. But will he be able to


win over sceptical MPs? Earlier this month the Foreign


Affairs Select Committee urged David Cameron not to press ahead with


a vote on UK air strikes against It said any benefits would be more


than outweighed by the risks of "legal ambiguity, political chaos


on the ground, military The committee urged the


Prime Minister to focus instead on The UK is already taking part


in air strikes against IS targets in Iraq, at the


request of the Iraqi government. On Monday RAF Tornados attacked a


group of more than 30 IS fighters who were preparing an attack


on Kurdish forces near Sinjar. There have already been targeted UK


drone strikes in Syria after British born jihadis Reyaad Khan and Ruhul


Amin were killed in Raqqa in August. It was ruled lawful as an act


of self-defence. But for David Cameron, extending to


full air strikes is more tricky, In 2013 Parliament voted on


whether to take military action The Government lost 282


against to 272 in favour. Andrew. George Eustis, if the Prime


Minister now thinks it is right to take the water Syria, why doesn't he


get on with it? We are acting in Iraq at the moment, and big progress


is being made. But the Prime Minister has always been clear that


there will only be action in Syria if there is support for it.


Why? There isn't a constitutional need for it. The Prime Minister said


that we do need to have a clear strategy, a broad strategy that


looks at counter-terrorism, and community cohesion at home. He is


going to respond directly. So why haven't we got it? This has been a


long time coming, we have seen this coming. There is no surprise, there


is only the timing. We have known, even the downing of the Russian


passenger jet over Sinai was a clear sign that Islamic State was


operating and out of area. Terrorist capability. So why have we not yet


had the Prime Minister's Hanson for dealing with it? The Prime Minister


would have been able to get air strikes in Syria in the last


parliament, but the Labour Party would support that. Some of your own


side wouldn't. They wouldn't. Would you support it? I would. I would


have supported intervention against Assad in 2013 we could have brought


this civil war to an earlier conclusion. And I certainly support


action in Syria now. You should be willing to go after Isil wherever


they are. The Royal United services Institute, an independent think


tank, has said that while the parliamentary manoeuvring


continues, the UK's reputation as a reliable military partner is being


undermined. It is right, isn't it? I would prefer it if we had voted to


go into action in Syria at the end of the last Parliament. Why not do


it and throw yourself, at some stage of labour... If you do it because


the Government thinks it is the right thing to do, and Labour puts


down a motion of no confidence, then you live or fall by the vote in the


Commons. Do the right thing. I think it is right on matters of military


intervention that we seek a Parliamentary consensus for it. The


Prime Minister has always said that that was what we would do. Is it


always true on every possible military action that Britain will


take, that there needs to be a Parliamentary consensus? When you


are talking about a sustained air campaign, then yes, he feels he


should have parliamentary backing for that. The answer is not to


sidestep Parliament, it is to persuade Parliament that this is the


right thing to do. But he is not. Why is he taking so long to reply?


The select committee report was iffy about extending the war. There were


lots of arguments for not doing it as well as there are strong


arguments were doing it. Why is the Prime Minister taking so long to


reply? He said he's going to reply to it directly personally. The key


thing they ask forward is to say that they needed a coherent wider


strategy that included how we bring the civil war in Syria to an end.


And when we get to get back? He says he is going to make that response


himself. I understand there is some difficulty in answering these


questions. What about this one. Do you think it would be right, given


what we have seen unfold on the streets of Paris, and given that our


own intelligence services believe it is only a matter of time before


something almost as terrible or just as terrible happens on the streets


of written, -- Britain, that this Government should continue to cut


police numbers? You have seen this week the Government announced that


is going to double the budget on dealing with cyber crime, an extra


1900 personnel... That is not police numbers. No, but the


counter-terrorism element of the police budget was protected in the


last Parliament, and it will be protected again in this one. Except


that there has been a clear-cut in the Home Office's budget, and the


head of the London Met says that the cuts that are still to come, another


5000 officers will have to go, from a 32,000 strong police force in the


capital. We will have to wait until they get the spending review


decisions to know exactly how much the police will be asked to save,


and it would be over four years. Let me just give you the figures from


the ISS. Public spending on police was cut by 14% in real terms between


2010 and 2014 /15. And now it faces further cut at a time when we faced


Robert Blake the biggest terrorist threat this country has ever faced,


even bigger than the IRA now if Paris is anything to go by. Does


that make sense to continue cutting? Within the budget, you


would prioritise things like counter-terrorism. You prioritised


overseas aid. The point is on the police that crime has gone down in


the last five years. Policing is changing. That is a Europe-wide


phenomenon, as you know. Policing is changing, there is more emphasis on


things like cyber crime, and we have doubled the budget on that, and an


extra ?2 billion going into special forces. Contrary to reports in the


media, special forces are not patrolling the streets. How many


armed police can France deployed within one hour of a terrorist


attack? I don't know. 120,000. How many armed police could Britain


deploy within an hour? An absolute maximum of 6000. 6000 versus


120,000, and you thinking next week's, rancid review you would we


seem to be in touch with this country if you continue to cut


police budget? Within the budget, you prioritise where there is


greatest to public safety. Thank you Ray much.


A bitter row has broken out in the Labour Party over the renewal of


Ken Livingstone, an opponent of the nuclear deterrent, has been put


in joint charge of a review to help decide Labour's position on it.


When a Shadow Defence Minister who's suffered with depression questioned


his suitability for the role, Mr Livingstone's reported to have


said he "might need some psychiatric help".


Why has he been appointed? My understanding is that when the NEC


met recently, they made a joint decision that they would move our


work streams down into six key areas, and one of those is foreign


affairs and defence. That will obviously include the Trident


review. That work is being led by Maria Eagle, our Shadow Secretary of


State for Defence, but she will co-chair that body with Ken


Livingstone, who is a member of the NEC. That model as a model they have


adopted across the six work streams. One member of the Shadow Cabinet,


one member of the NEC. But you now have a Shadow Defence Secretary who


is in favour of the renewal of Trident, and Ken Livingstone


chairing this review alongside her who doesn't. Can you understand why


she is reported to be furious? She didn't know, she wasn't told, she


had a mention with Jeremy Corbyn last week and she wasn't told about


the possibility of Ken Livingstone heading up this review. My


understanding is that this decision was made by the National executive


committee, not Jeremy Corbyn. Do you understand why she is furious and


feels undermined? I haven't spoken to Maria, so I don't know if that is


how she feels or not. This is a model that we have adopted across


the board, and it is not new. We are democratic organisation, and we


allow all sides to put their points of view. Tessa Jarl was the chair of


Ken Livingstone's campaign when he ran to America London, to back --


two people from different backgrounds working together. But if


you're shadow secretary is reportedly thinking of resigning, it


isn't working, is it? I can't tell you what she thinks, because I


haven't seen her. Is Ken Livingstone suitable for that role if he says


about one of his critics, Kevin Jones, Junior Shadow defence


Minister, that he should see his GP, that he should see a


psychiatrist? This is a man who had a battle with depression? Is that


appropriate? If that is what is said, of course it isn't. In


politics, nobody should be speaking to each other like that. We have had


insults hurled across the House of Commons, and it is not the right way


to talk about each other, but these are hugely serious issues, not just


about Trident, but also because of the conversation we were just having


because of the imminent threat posed by Isil, and it is right that the


Labour Party is trying to engage in a democratic process engages


different points of view. There are different views across this across


the country. But this is about judgment and the judgment of the


leader of the Labour Party. Her Majesty is my loyal opposition, and


his judgment will be called into question if he has appointed someone


like Ken Livingstone who has made comments like that about a fellow


MP. The NEC made a joint decision. Is


that appropriate for Ken Livingstone to say that? If he says about a


Parliamentary colleague, although Ken Livingstone is not in


Parliament, that somebody suffering from depression should go and see


his GP. I cannot confirm he has said it. Should Ken Livingstone


apologise? I do not think anybody in politics should be making comments


like that. We ought to be having a proper debate about the way in which


we keep people safe in this country. Is that the way to conduct


the debate? It is also reported that he has called Maria eagle mad for


believing that Trident is worth spending ?20 billion on? If it is


going to be a grown-up debate is Ken Livingstone the man to lead that


debate? I cannot comment on that because I have not seen it. Kevin


Jones has actually responded and saying however ended tears. Labour


MPs are all over social media as saying how outraged they are about


these comments and if he has been appointed to this very important


role, is that the sort of debate we can expect? Absolutely not. The sort


of debate we ought to be having as we ought to be respectful to one


another and concede there are different points of view. Should he


go? My understanding is that is why these bodies have been constituted a


this way so that different opinions are taken into account. Are you


happy for Ken Livingstone to continue in that role? I am not


going to comment having not seen anything that you have just read out


to me. I do not think that is the right way to conduct politics


either. I will look at what he said and take a view. Nobody should be


saying to anybody in any political party that they need to seek


psychiatric help and if that is what has been said of course he should


apologise. Should Jeremy Corbyn's judgment be cold into question after


making that decision without consulting his Shadow Defence


Secretary? The national executive committee which is drawn from across


the Labour Party... She did not even know. Was he right to accept the


decision by the NEC for Ken Livingstone to run that review? We


are a democratic party and decisions are made through the NEC which is


our ruling body. In terms of the town which Jeremy Corbyn has said


since he became leader, it has been respectful, kinder, straighter with


people. None of that sounds very kind respectful. That is my point.


This is watchable see from Jeremy Corbyn. That is how he expects us to


conduct debate. There is no sense in which anybody should be hurling


insults at anybody else and if that has happened we ought to take a


strong line. How strong should that might be? Jeremy Corbyn said unity


would be Labour's watchword. This looks the exact opposite. Unity


should be our watchword but within that we ought to be having


respectful and open debate about issues that are incredibly complex,


whether it is Isil and the situation in Syria, responding to Paris,


issues about police cuts or Trident, these are complex questions and it


is right that we have a debate but we must do that respectfully. When


there is a Trident debate next week they will not be an agreed


position? No. We are having a review. There are different views


across the Labour Party as across the country. That is the purpose of


the view. -- review. One person wants Trident and one person does


not. They might represent different views. At some stage there has to be


settled view from the opposition. When? The review is ongoing for


several months. We have announced the two co-chairman of the details


will be set out quite quickly. Jeremy has set out his personal view


but he has to persuade the rest of the party of that. We are a


democratic member led organisation and will have that debate and come


to consensus about the right way forward but it is right to ask the


question in relation to Trident, should we be spending this much of


our defence budget on keeping us they've when the threat we face


comes from organisations like Isil? You disagree with the Shadow Defence


Secretary? I have not come to a set of view. I want to have that


conversation. I would much rather have a leader who is willing to


listen to all points of view than a Prime Minister who has taken a


stance and will not admit there are competing priorities. All 129


fatalities from the terrorist attacks on Friday have been


identified. Scores of nationalities involved than people of all


backgrounds, ethnic persuasions and so on, in the atrocities, of the


129. The Paris prosecutor has told journalists it is unclear whether


the alleged organiser of the attacks has been picked up in that police


raid. They are not clear whether they managed to get him.


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Yes, Prime Minister's Questions is on its way.


The first Prime Minister's Questions since the attacks in Paris. Probably


more important today for Jeremy Corbyn. I doubt there will be much


crowd sourcing of questions from Jeremy Corbyn today. The BBC's


political editor is here. Starting with the government, lots of reports


that David Cameron was moving towards a vote, that it looked as if


he was going to take the plunge, get his ducks in a row, and I understand


there has been a ring back. David Cameron will not put a vote to the


House of Commons unless he is sure he can win it comfortably. This is


not something the government wants to look like they have sneaked


through. They might do not want to walk into the lobby is on the night


of the potential vote that it is that so little going to happen. This


is not going to be on a knife edge and if it seems like it is he will


not do it. How does he tell? His whips can tell him how many Tories


are going to vote for him and how many rebels he faces, they cannot


tell him what the Labour Party is going to do. One of those theories


doing the rounds is that the government may ask Labour MPs who


are interested in voting for action, maybe as many as 50, to put


something in writing, to give them something kind of guarantee or


public statement that they will back the government. Do not underestimate


how bruised ministers feel by what they see as Ed Miliband's betrayal


on a very different vote, action in Syria in 2013. They will be looking


for something that looks like a guarantee. Whether or not that


mechanism of the public written statement comes as not a question


that is yet settled but they are looking for solid things that they


know they can take to the House and win comfortably. It looks like it


might be by a slow and it will not happen -- if it does. To be sure he


is dependent and it is a very difficult time because... To use the


word chaos in the Labour Party would not be an exaggeration. Mr Jones is


a shadow defence spokesman for the defence party and was attacked by


Ken Livingstone who is heading up a review on defence policy and he has


responded. People can have political differences but to use mental


illness as a tool to attack somebody you disagree with on a political


issue is disgraceful. Jeremy Corbyn has worked very hard alongside other


members of Parliament to take the stigma away from mental illness and


Ken Livingstone's comments sure we have a long way to go. His comments


are in the dark ages frankly and that is where they should stay. The


internal civil war continues. The war of words. Chris Leslie who was


the former Shadow Chancellor has called on Ken Livingstone to resign


from the defence review and possibly from Labour's ruling committee the


national executive committee. What has happened in the last few days is


very significant. We have always known there were big differences


between the Parliamentary Labour Party and Jeremy Corbyn but what we


have seen as those tensions smash up against one thing real. What


happened in Paris and how Jeremy Corbyn has responded to it has


caused a great deal of concern not just among those who could be


dismissed as Blairite but amongst moderates in the Labour Party. For


Jeremy Corbyn supporters the kind of things he has been saying is exactly


why he won. He does not believe that violence is the answer to the


problems we face in this country and he believes Western intervention is


partly responsible for what has been happening. When the government wants


military action you have the Labour Party having a really damaging fight


amongst themselves. At a time when the Labour Party seems to be at


sixes and sevens on key issues of national security there is no sense


that Jeremy Corbyn is trying to reach out to the middle or the


rights of his party. Appointing Ken Livingstone is the exact opposite.


Indeed. For many Labour MPs the phrase that Kevin Jones uses, that


it is something from the dark ages, that is what many people in the


Labour Party remember, fights in the 1980s, and think that people


involved in those are back and telling them what to do. This is a


real clash of ideology. It is a real clash of the sort of street fighting


politics. There is a battle. It is chaotic but it is a fight for the


soul of who they really are and who they represent. In the last few days


Jeremy Corbyn supporters repeatedly unjustifiably talk about the


mandate, more and more MPs talking about the mandate that they got from


voters that the general election, 9 million voters, seeing that it is


different frame in terms of Jeremy Corbyn's mandate. Ken Livingstone's


appointment comes after a number of appointments. Mr McDonald as the


Shadow Chancellor. Even the unions were not keen on that. This policy


adviser who described various Labour people as scumbags. Andrew Fletcher.


Seamus Milne from The Guardian. Mr Livingstone in defence policy. The


question will have to wait because we are going to the Commons.


Mr Speaker, may I associate myself and the whole house with what the


Government have said about the attacks in Paris. People in


Blackpool were among those murdered on a Tunisian beach, and our tower


was lit in red white and blue for those killed by terrorist in France.


I raised an issue about neighbourhood policing and security


being threatened by the scale of proposed cuts, and the Lancashire


funding formula which has now been admitted to be flawed. Can I reflect


him -- asking to reflect on the words, when facts change, change my


mind, and when local intelligence can be crucial against, perhaps this


isn't the time to jeopardise it with arbitrary Treasury cuts. I thank the


honourable gentleman for what he says about Paris and the importance


of the whole house coming together over this issue, and perhaps the


house would like a brief update. One British and, Nick Alexander, was


killed at the Bataclan Theatre. Three other British National Party


now been released from hospital and returned to the UK. The Foreign


Office and red cross of providing support for at least another 15


nationals for trauma. We will be providing support for all of those


affected by what happened. There has been news from France this morning


in terms of terrorist arrests, and I can say more about that later on. On


policing, what I would say to the honourable gentleman is that we have


quite rightly in this Parliament protected counter-terrorism


policing. We are going to protect that again in this Parliament. What


we have done in terms of policing otherwise is we have seen an


increase in neighbourhood officers over the course of the parliament,


and a 31% cut in crime. Let me commend the police, not just


counter-terrorism police but all police, for the work they do, and we


will announce our proposals next week. Mr Speaker, as our hearts go


out to the people of France at this time, will the Prime Minister agree


with me that the first duty of Her Majesty is government must be to


protect British citizens from harm? So will he take immediate action to


secure our UK borders from those who threaten our nation, and on security


grounds alone, restore complete sovereignty over our British borders


from the European Union? I think my honourable friend raises a very


important question, and I want to explain in answering a very


important point, which is because the UK is not only Schengen Area, we


already retain full control over who is entering our country, and we are


able to check all entrants at the border, EU nationals and EEA


nationals included. On the house might be interested to know that


since 2010 we have refused entry to almost 6000 EU national, and many of


these were stopped at our border controls in Calais. In terms of


other people we have stopped, since 2010 we had denied entry to nearly


19 -- 95,000 people, and one of the principal reasons for not letting


people in is national security concerns. We have that situation


already because we are not in the Schengen Area.


THE SPEAKER: Mr Jeremy Corbyn. I want to start, Mr Speaker, by


expressing the horror of all those on this side of the house at the


events in Paris on Friday evening, and our concern you'd -- continued


solidarity with all victims, whether they be in Paris, Beirut, Ankara,


Damascus or anywhere in the world. We know that at least one British


and has been killed, and many more injured. Many British people live


and work in Paris, millions visit Paris and France every year. Can the


Prime Minister continue what he was saying earlier in response to my


friend the member from Blackpool in terms of giving support to the


British affected by the attacks, and what the Government's latest advices


on travelling to France and our need to show the best possible normality


in relations with the French people? I thank the Leader of the


Opposition for his remarks and I say what a pleasure it was to be with


him last night at the England-France football match, where I thought


there was a tremendous display of solidarity. I'm sure they can say in


the Marseille is louder in the Stade de France, but I was proud to be


there. There is never any justification for terrorism, and we


can all be clear about that at all times. He asked specifically what we


could do more to help British people caught up in his problems. Peter


Ricketts, our ambassador in France, is doing a brilliant job, and I'm


keeping my eye closely on the consular situation. In terms of


travel advice, it is all on the Foreign Office website, but I agree


with him, the most important thing is for people to carry on with their


lives. It is important that the Eurostar continues to function,


flights continue to go, people continue to travel to enjoy London


and Paris and go about our business. Yes we need enhanced security, and


that is happening with the way that the police are acting here in the UK


and elsewhere, but one of the ways to defeat terrorism is to show them


that we will not be cowed. We know that sadly after such atrocities as


we have seen, intolerance often increases. Islamophobia,


anti-Semitism, racism. Will the Prime Minister agree with me that it


is vital that everyone in public life, particularly politicians, are


careful about how we discuss these issues, and will he also join with


me in making it very clear that the dreadful events of terrorism in


Paris have nothing in common whatsoever with the 2 million


British Muslims in this country who are as appalled as anyone else by


the events in Paris last Friday? I will happily join the right


honourable gentleman in that. Some of the strongest and best statements


have been made by a whole series of magician Muslims coming together to


say that these attacks are in no way carried out in their name. But I do


think it raises an important issue, which cannot be said often enough,


that these watches of Isil are no reflection of the true religion of


Islam, which is a religion of peace. But at the same time, we do have to


recognise that whether these terrorists are in Tunisia or Egypt


or Paris or London they spout the same bile that they claim comes from


the religion of Islam, and that is why we have to take apart what they


say and prove that that is not the case. It is not good enough to say


there is no connection between these terrorist and Islam, they are making


a connection. We need to prove that it is not right, and the support of


Muslim scholars is absolutely vital and I commend them for their work.


Surely a crucial way to help defeat Isil is to cut off its funding, its


supply of arms and its trade. Can I press the Prime Minister to ensure


that our allies in the region and all countries in the region are


doing all they can to clamp down on individuals and institutions in


their countries who are providing Isil with vital infrastructure, and


will he, through the European Union and other forums if necessary,


consider sanctions against those banks and companies and if necessary


countries who turn a blind eye to financial dealings with Isil which


assist them in their work? We do play a leading role, as I said


yesterday, in making sure that the supply of money and weapons and


support is cut off, but I think we should be clear about where Isil got


their money from originally. What happened was that because we didn't


have a Government in Iraq that effectively represented all of its


people, and because in Syria you have a leader who is butchering his


own people, Isil was able to get hold of oil, get hold of weapons,


get hold of territory, get hold of banks, and it is that that they have


been able to use in order to fund their hatred and violence, and so we


cannot dodge for ever the question of how to degrade and destroy Isil


both in Iraq and in Syria, and that is why I will be setting out my


response to the foreign affairs select committee. So yes, go after


the money, the banks, cut off their supplies, but don't make that a


substitute for the action that is required to beat these people where


they are. Next week the Chancellor will


present his Autumn Statement stood a house. Can the prime and is to


clarify something about the source of the necessary extra funding to be


set out for the security services which we support. Will it come at


the expense of other areas, either within the Home Office budget or a


win in other areas of public spending, or from new funding? Does


he want to go on longer so that the Chancellor can explain the answer to


him? We will set out in full our decisions next week, but we have


already said that we will be funding an increase in the security services


of 1900 personnel, safeguarding the counterterrorism budget, and we will


be seeing an increase in terms of aviation security. All of this is


part of an overall spending settlement. At the same time as


funding our security, increasing our defence spending, we have to make


decisions that eradicate our budget deficit and keep our economy strong.


We don't do that just for the common -- current generation, we do it for


our children and grandchildren, because none of these things, not


even strong defence, is possible without a strong economy. I am not


sure where the money is coming from following the Prime Minister's


answer, but no doubt it will come. London has been targeted by


terrorists before, and this weekend was Mike events in Paris have


focused attention not just on London but also other cities throughout the


whole of Britain. Policing plays a vital role in community cohesion,


gathering intelligence of those who may be about to be a risk to all of


us. But this is surely undermined if we cut the number of police officers


by 5000. Does the Prime Minister agree with the commission of the


Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, who said, I quote, I


genuinely worry about safety of London if the cuts go through on


this scale? The right honourable gentleman asks where the money comes


from. We on this side of the house never forget that every penny we


spend comes from taxpayers. Borrowed money is simply taxes that are


deferred, and that is why it is so important to eradicate our deficit


at the same time as making sure we find our security intelligence


services and police properly. We are protecting the counterterrorism


budget. We see a 3800 increasing neighbourhood police officers in the


last parliament at the same time as a 31% increase in -- 31% cut in


crime. The Shadow Home Secretary has said that a 10% efficiency target


for the police is doable. Is the Leader of the Opposition saying that


he doesn't agree with his Shadow Home Secretary? There does seem to


be a little bit of disagreement on the opposition front bench today.


I have a question from a taxpayer, actually. And his name is John, and


he says, at a time... LAUGHTER


SHOUTING. At a time when we are facing the


greatest threat from terrorism ever faced, police numbers and resources


are cut. Demands on the police have been increasing steadily as budgets


are slashed, increasing stress on officers. Couple that with


detrimental changes to their pay, terms, conditions and pensions, it


is no wonder that morale in the police force is so poor, one in


three are considering leaving the force. Will he be able to tell us


whether or not this community policing and other police budgets


are protected or not in next week's Autumn Statement?


Let me tell him again, neighbourhood policing numbers have gone up by


3800. In the capital city, we have seen a 500% increase in


neighbourhood policing. We have also, because we have cut


bureaucracy, but the equivalent of an extra 2000 police on the streets.


But I will tell the Leader of the Opposition something. As well as


wanting resources, the police want the appropriate powers. And hasn't


come to something when the leader of Her Majesty Osman opposition thinks


that the police when fronted by a Kalashnikov waving terrorist isn't


sure what the reaction should be! Mr Speaker, the attacks on Paris


were quite clearly an attack on all of us. Does the Prime Minister agree


that our resolve must be unbreakable? We should hunt down


Isil wherever it is operating, wherever it is planning, wherever it


is plotting, and if that means shoot to kill, then so be it, and if that


means action in Syria, then so be it. I think my Hywel Poole friend is


right. What I have said is that in order to respond to this very severe


threat that we face, we need focus on counterterrorism here in the


United Kingdom giving our intelligence agencies the laws they


need, giving our police the powers they need, and making sure we are


vigilant. We need counter extremism as we were discussing earlier, the


importance of stopping the poisoning of these young minds, not least


through these radical preachers on the Internet. But we also need to


stop the problems at their source. We know where much of this problem


is coming from. It is Isil, not just in Iraq, but in Syria. What I said


to the house yesterday is I will prepare a detailed report to


demonstrate that we do have a clear strategy of bringing in the


neighbourhood powers, bringing in the regional powers, building a


future for these countries and stability in the least, but I


believe part of that is taking action against Isil wherever it is.


In the wake of terrorist outrages and the ongoing civil war in Syria


it is very welcome that there is significant diplomatic progress in


trying to find a solution to the Syrian crisis. The UK joined the


United States and France and Russia and Iran at talks in Vienna at the


weekend and all signed a communique committing progress through the


United Nations. Will he confirm that he will support a UN Security


Council resolution on this before seeking to intervene Mellitah rally


in Syria? I am grateful for asking this question. Russia has different


aims to ours and have obediently threatened to veto any such


resolution. -- repeatedly. It is always preferential to have the full


backing of the United Nations Security Council but what matters


most of all is that any action we would take would both be legal and


would help protect our country and our people right here. You cannot


outsource to a Russian veto the decisions we need to debar country


safe. The first survey of UK public opinion on military intervention


since the Paris attacks has shown 52% believe that the UK should


engage with all countries to coordinate an appropriate response


Mellitah Relay or otherwise backed by United Nations resolution and


only 15% believe the UK should independently launch our strikes.


Will he commit to giving a commitment to secure a UN Security


Council resolution, which the UK and Russia agreed to? I could not be


clearer. Of course it is or was preferential in whatever action you


are taking, whether lifting people out of the Mediterranean or taking


action in the Middle East against Isil, it is always preferential to


have a you, United Nations Security Council resolution but is they are


threatened with veto again and again my job is not to read an opinion


poll but to do the right thing to debar country safe. -- keep our. The


French armed police, who stormed the Bataclan and killed those vile


murderous scum are heroes and so are the British armed forces who protect


our public spaces and people. Will the Prime Minister sent a note of


unequivocal support to those officers on patrol and ensure that


in the review next week they have the resources they need to keep us


safe? I absolutely agree. We ask the police every day to take risks on


our behalf and let me thank the police who policed so effectively


the game at Wembley last night. In terms of the French police the House


would welcome an update. We have seen the news of an operation in


Paris, two suspects have died, seven arrests made, this operation has


finished. We should all bravery of the French police handling with what


is a very challenging situation. I. I hope that can be consensus right


across the House. If we are confronted with a situation like


this the British police should not be in any doubt. If you have a


terrorist who is threatening to kill people you can and must use force.


-- lethal force. President Obama said I have emphasised the


importance of tax credits to help working families afford childcare


and keep families in the workplace. Does he agree with the importance


the president of the United States has attached to tax credits? What is


important is that we do the best we can to help low-paid people and that


is why we are taking people out of income tax. 3 million of the lowest


paid taken out of income tax since I became Prime Minister. An ?11,000


threshold before B will have to start paying tax at all. Helping


working families with childcare, helping a national Living Wage


starting next year, something I suspect President Obama would love


to introduce in the United States. We are doing it here. Integrating


health and social care would be a great prize for devolved cities and


regions. Without effective democratic and clinical overstate


things can go badly wrong. Already in Manchester a major hospital


reorganisation is waiting judicial review. Can I ask him to ensure that


proper safeguards are in place so the local authorities retain a last


resort to refer NHS changes or independent clinical reviews? I will


look carefully at what he says. This goes to a larger point which is we


are currently changing the way our country is run. These big devolution


deals in Greater Manchester and Liverpool and the West Midlands mean


we are going to have powerful Metro wheres who are accountable to local


people for their decisions they made, which as I direct form of


accountability and we can be confident of devolving health and


social care to those authorities. Our country has been too centralised


for too long. Our northern cities will benefit from these massive


devolution deals but if we devolved the power and the money we have to


devolve the trust and the accountability as well. Against the


backdrop of a tidal wave of local job losses, the Teesside collective


industrial carbon capture is the very real potential to secure a


major StepChange in our industrial renaissance. Ahead of the Paris


conference will he meet with me and the industrial leaders driving this


project so we can secure these immense climate change games with


the UK leading this industrial revolution and make this initiative


a reality for Teesside and the UK? I know how important it is that we all


work on behalf of Teesside not least because of the difficulties that


have been in Redcar and that is why we have the task force and that is


why the additional resources are going in. I am happy to look at the


project he docs about. It may be best for him to meet with the Energy


and Climate Change Secretary. We have to make decisions about all of


these technologies. In my constituency of North Warwickshire


manufacturing is thriving thanks to innovative small businesses such as


one group who are creating high-quality local jobs and


apprenticeships in engineering. Given the challenges these types of


company fees in finding traditional funding support what assurances can


you give that this Conservative government understands the


importance of our innovators and will continue to provide initiatives


such as the annual investment fund to ensure British businesses


continue to lead the way? We want to rebalance the British economy, not


just in terms of the devolution of power, but also CE is thriving


manufacturing sector. Manufacturers want to see continued investment


into the captive bolt centres that do a good job of making sure


technology taken up, strong support for the apprenticeship programme,


and they also want to make the annual investment allowance


permanent and it will be at ?200,000 throughout this parliament so that


manufacturing companies and others who want to make investments now


they can do so in a way that will be profitable. My niece is safe and


well having been caught up in the aftermath of the Paris attacks and


she wants to know as a student for three years in Paris whether this


country is going to be safe on her return? She is worried about the


cuts to the ambulance, the police under services in this country and


whether we will be prepared with those cuts to be as prepared as


those in Paris. I want to know why we are not joining with the Russians


to get a UN mandate to remove Isis from Syria. I am glad to year that


his niece is safe after these terrible attacks. To answer her


question, we are doing everything we can to make sure this country is


safe. After the intelligence we had some years ago about the potential


of a marauding firearms attack at multiple locations and perhaps the


capital city or elsewhere we have run exercises, done research, looked


at everything we can, to make sure that ambulances and crews will be


able to go into a hot zone and recover casualties, that we have the


right number of armed police in the different parts of our country, that


we can respond including using other forces, and we have looked at what


the French have done in terms of surging troops onto the street and


we have made sure that can happen here. There's never a 100% guarantee


of safety but we are doing everything possibly can. I warmly


congratulate the Prime Minister on new funding that has been announced


for special forces equipment, but may I draw his attention to the


plight of David and Maria Summers who have struggled to obtain a


permanent residency for Maria despite being married for 45 years?


Did he encourage officials to look again at this case? I am happy to


look again at this case but it gives me the opportunity given the


constituency he represents to say something about a group of people


that we see very little about because we do not comment on their


amazing work, but Hereford is an important part of the nation's


security domestic league and overseas. Very brave people work


there and we should give them credit. My constituent was a soldier


in Iraq and Afghanistan and is currently training to be a doctor in


London. He told me that with the proposed in your doctors contracts


morale in the NHS is law than at any other point during his time on the


front line. Does he agree that Loma rile amongst our junior doctors is a


threat to patient safety? -- low morale. Please look very carefully


at what the government is offering before you decide to go one strike


because what is on offer is not an increase in hours, for many doctors


it will mean life long hours, it is not a cut in the pay bill for junior


doctors, it is an 11% basic pay increase. It will mean a better


rostering of doctors including at weekends with more support for


consultants. Go on the Department of Health website, look at the


calculator and see how you will be affected because we have given a


guarantee that anyone working legal hours will not be worse off under


this contract. This is good for the NHS, good for doctors, patients,


good for patients and I hope the BMA will call off their damaging strike.


Fundamental to the success of the Good Friday Agreement was the spirit


of peace and reconciliation that saw dozens or hundreds of convicted


terrorist released from prison. Many had been found guilty of murder. Yet


in the last week we hear the alarming news of a 66-year-old


former paratrooper being arrested in connection with events that took


place 43 years ago. In a week we are all having to once again contemplate


sending our young men and women into harm's way with our security


services on high alert, what message does this send to our armed forces


and security services? I understand his concern that the feeling that


many will have on seeing this news but the truth is about our country


is one of the most important things about it is the government does not


decide who is prosecuted and who is not. We have the rule of law,


independent prosecuting authorities. This is something people across the


world pride out for and we have here and we have to support them even


when they take decisions that sometimes we want attention.


Yesterday the principal parties in Northern Ireland came together and


agreed a deal to make sure that the devolved institutions and continue


to work. That deal involved people who have lost loved ones to


terrorism, who have been opposed to each other all of their lives,


sitting down and working together to try to deliver good government for


this part of the United Kingdom and that is what we should look to to


the future. The decision last week by HMRC to close their offices in


Bradford will mean the loss of over 2000 high school high wage jobs, 1.2


million in business rates and almost 12 million of the district's retail


step goal spending which will have a devastating impact on Bradford. And


you give me assurances that HMRC will meet with Bradford MPs to


consider the clear economic and social case for keeping those


offices in Bradford open? I am happy to ask the financial secretary to


meet with the local MPs. We will make sure that Jobcentre plus and


all of the supporters there for people who potentially are their


jobs. In Bradford, the claimant count is down by 26% in the last


year so jobs are available. It is a difficult and important point I am


going to make, everyone in this House wants to see HMRC raise more


money and make sure that people and companies do not avoid their taxes


and that means reform and it means to make sure that HMRC is even more


effective in raising the taxes on which our public services depend.


Acknowledging that sport can bring a nation together and nations


together, as demonstrated at Wembley last night, which he ensure that in


addition to the welcome extra investment in the police and


security services, investment in sports such as cricket will be


maintained because they are a tool to help us face longer term


challenges in integrating communities? I am sure over the next


week the spending requests will quicken as we get closer to the


spending review. It is important we have put in place the school sport


premium for primary schools and it is making a real difference. There


is a role for the sporting bodies to play. Many receive large amounts of


money from the television contracts and the more of them that the more


of them that can use that to ensure we are bringing on the young stars


of tomorrow, that is absolutely vital. As the new leader of the


anti-austerity movement in Oxfordshire, can he tell us how his


campaign is going? What I said to my local council is what I say to every


council, which is you have to get more for less, not less for more. On


this side of the House we want to make sure that every penny that is


raised in council tax is well spent and if his council would like to


come in and get the same advice I will gladly oblige. At a time when


he saw rightly emphasises the need for our solidarity with France, and


I asked if he can see what he can do to ensure that the Franco British


Council set up over 40 years ago to promote civil society partnership


can continue to do its important work in fields as diverse as defence


and community cohesion? Without a very small amount of funding from


both governments it will not be able to do that. I am happy to look at


that proposal. France and Britain have a lot to learn from each other


and we should enter into these discussions in that spirit. We have


a lot to learn about integrating people into our country, about how


we have effective counter-terrorism policing, about how to share


intelligence, and I am committed to making sure we burst you all of


those things with France. Wigan council has had a cut in funding


over the last five years and lost a third of its staff. Does he advise I


should write to the leader of the council regarding the reduction or


should I place the blame firmly where it belongs, with his


government? If he is looking for someone to blame she might want to


blame the Labour Party which left the country with the biggest budget


deficit anywhere in the Western world. The advice I would give her


about her local council is to look at its overall spending power, the


combination of business rates, council tax and Grant and ask what


money they have got to provide local services.


Prime Minister's Questions predictably dominated by events in


Paris. President Hollande of France was also giving a press conference,


and he says France is at war with Islamic State. He wants a large


coalition, his words, working against IS militants who threaten


the whole world and commit massacres in the Middle East. Hollande said,


we are at war, and a French aircraft carrier is today leaving the French


Mediterranean naval port to head for the Middle East region to help


Frenchmen literary operations in the Syrian area. -- French military


operations. Interestingly, it will be accompanied by a British


destroyer which will provide air strike cover for the ship Charles de


Gaulle. HMS destroyer will be accompanying it to the region. That


second to last question there about Anglo-French Corporation, that will


be some of that in action. Ed Buxton says the exchanges between


the two leaders began with the House of Commons at its best,


statesman-like questions and answers, then it turned, and both


leaders let themselves down by playing politics with national


security. All wind says, I worry greatly for


the Labour Party, it is becoming increasingly evident that there is


no alternative to the conservative Government. Gareth says, please


challenge the Prime Minister's answer about there being 3800 more


neighbourhood police. This is at best wrong, at worst a lie. I am a


neighbourhood police officer, and there has been no increase, in fact


it is the opposite. Bill Waterman on the same theme, David Cameron is


away with the fairies regarding neighbourhood policing. They are


calling other offices neighbourhood officers, but they are not walking


the streets. Going back to the question I was


coming to before PMQs, but before I do, can you give me your overall


impression? Yesterday the Prime Minister told the House of Commons


he wants to make a case for military action, the most serious they had


Prime Minister can do, and Jeremy Corbyn chose not to ask the Prime


Minister question on that. It is difficult territory for him, and the


Prime Minister gave a full statement yesterday saying what his treasured


you would be, but this is one of the most significant thing is a


Government can say it wants to do, and the opposition leader due to the


strange times we are in chose not to go on that particular question, it


was left instead to the leader of the third biggest party, Angus


Robertson, the SNP leader at Westminster, to put that question


twice about whether or not the government would seek a mandate from


the United Nations, and David Cameron said twice he did not


believe that he would have to go to the UN. He said it was ideal and


preferable, but he didn't say he would do it.


We were talking about the kind of appointments Jeremy Corbyn has made,


and we went through the list. It has culminated in Ken Livingstone being


in charge of the defence review along with the shadow defence


spokeswoman. What I was going to ask is, when you look at how provocative


some of these appointments are to the centre and right of the Labour


Party, is he trying to provoke an early leadership challenge so he get


it over with? I asked a member of the Shadow Labour team this morning


if they thought that he was trying to force the more southerly to


resign. He said, I don't know about that, but suggested that sometimes


it feels that way. There is a spectrum of paranoia at one end,


saying everything that Jeremy Corbyn is doing is trying to provoke an


enormous bust up, a mass exodus of people from the party. But those on


the other side say, he is doing is a what he said he said he would always


do, appointing a team in his image. On this journey, day by day, the


make it work brigade are finding it harder and harder and harder to make


it work. The appointment of Ken Livingstone is just the latest in a


line of these kinds of things. In the next few weeks, we have got


Jeremy Corbyn Lanning to a tend -- planning to attend a Stop the War


rally. And next week the Labour Party is trying to ask Labour MPs to


abstain on a vote on Trident which is being put forward by the SNP and


defy the party's own official policy.


You mentioned the continual argy-bargy within the Labour Party.


We have had this developing row now between Kevan Jones, speaking on


defence the Labour, saying he didn't quite know what Ken Livingstone's


credentials were heading up a row of -- a review of the policy. Ken


Livingstone said that Mr Jones needed treatment for mental


problems, Kevan Jones hit back at him, and now we have Mr Livingstone,


all of this happening in one morning. This is what he had to say


on LBC. If he apologises for criticising my ability to do this


job, perhaps... You have control over your professional capacities.


He has no control over his mental health. If he wants to apologise,


that is fine. Ken, just say sorry to the man. He suffers from clinical


depression, and you cast aspersions on his mental health. He was rude


about me. Would you have said the same things about his psychiatric


health if you knew that he was a sufferer of depression. Of course I


wouldn't. Well, there you go. The next word is sorry, I think. Once he


apologises for criticising my appointment, I might be nice.


Ken Livingstone just are so ago. Should he apologise? He absolutely


should. I hadn't heard confirmation of what he said, but it sends such a


damaging message to anybody who is struggling with mental illness


around the country, and of course he should apologise. Laura talked about


what she graphically called the make it work brigade in the Labour Party


beginning to despair. Are you part of the make it work brigade? We are


all in the make it work again! So are you beginning to despair as


well? Absolutely not. Jeremy Corbyn is ten June -- changing the tone of


PMQs, putting forward his plans to cut tackle the cuts in being,


working people and difficulties in the steel industry.


On the issue of the Russian veto, if we went to the UN and Russia vetoed


our attempts to get involved further in the Middle East, would that be


the end of it the Labour? It would depend on the deal that Cameron was


putting forward, and we have said very clearly, Hilary Benn and Jeremy


Corbyn have said we will consider the plan that David Cameron puts


forward. At the moment, we have talks going on in Vienna that look


like they may make some progress towards a full political and


diplomatic settlement in Syria. A full political and diplomatic


settlement? Really? It looks like we may make some progress towards


that. But if the Russians veto our foreign policy, Labour would go


along with that? That is my question? It depends on the plan


David Cameron puts forward. He said himself yesterday that simply


dropping a few bombs want to transform the situation in Syria. We


have been clear that he ought to go to the UN and try to get a mandate


faction, but it should only take place as part of a wider plan.


Russia are involved in those talks in Vienna, as are we. Should Ken


Livingstone, given his failure to apologise to Mr Jones, should he


resign from, or indeed be fired from, this defence review? The body


that takes action on matters like this is the second of committee. My


understanding is they are the body that has appointed him. I was asking


for your view. If he doesn't apologise, I would expect that this


would go back to the NEC and they would take action, and I would think


that would be the right thing to do. He is defying the Labour leader on


this. My view is that he should apologise. And if he doesn't? Then


it should go back to the National executive committee, and they should


take action. What does that mean? I can't pre-empt what they should do.


Do you think that they should fire him? My preference would be that he


would apologise or they would persuade him to. That would be more


productive. If he doesn't? He told us in that clip not to wait for an


apology. If he doesn't, would you like the NEC to demand he stepped


down? I think it would be very difficult to move forward on the


basis on which we currently are without an apology. I think we would


have to find a way to bring forward a solution that would mean that


those... That body could work together, and I think that doesn't


look likely. We go to the Central lobby of the House of Commons, John


Woodcock. What you make of Ken Livingstone's refusal to apologise?


I think it is really disappointing, and I hope that when the furious


this morning has died down and he does reflect on this issue, because


Kevan Jones's bravery in speaking out about depression in the House of


Commons when no one else really had done that before is what led me to


be able to feel able to talk about the depression but I have suffered.


And I think it sends a terrible signal that if we say that this is


just part of the normal toing and froing of political debate, it


isn't. Ken last week said that Maria Eagle was mad if she thought a


particular way, and I know that people speak loosely with that kind


of language, but this was something else. I am not going to get drawn


into, I thought Lisa spoke really well on this, and I am not into get


drawn into the issue of whether he should remain as chair, because I


have big issues with him being chair for different reasons. Then let me


ask you about them. Mr Livingstone seemly didn't know about Mr Jones's


depression issues, so let's say that Mr Livingstone isn't necessarily


anything of an expert on mental health issues. Could you explain to


our viewers, what are his qualifications, his defence


expertise? What does he have in that area to head up this defence


review? I am unable to explain to your viewers that. What has


concerned... I have concerns about whether the Shadow Defence Secretary


was properly consulted on this, what were the reasons for him being


appointed, but that for me is a separate issue to the really serious


thing about a leading member of the Labour Party who is quite openly


using inappropriate language around mental health, and then refusing to


withdraw it. So I think aside from the toing and froing of internal


Labour Party reviews, which is sometimes hard to excite even Labour


Party members about, and much more serious issue is that we can speak


to each other in a decent inhuman way and we can actually make normal


being able to discuss mental health conditions without them becoming to


user reviews -- terms of abuse. I understand that, but I take it what


you're saying is that you don't understand why Jeremy Corbyn has


appointed Mr Livingstone died at the defence review, even you don't think


he has any expertise? -- to head up the defence review. I think he has


kept quiet on that in recent years, that is the most diplomatic thing I


can say. One final question while we have you. Isn't it a problem for


your party that on a morning when we are dealing with the aftermath of


Harris and the ongoing anti-terrorism and the risk to this


country -- of Paris, that Her Majesty is opposition has been


sidetracked into essentially slanging match between two Labour


members? It is not great that this is happening, but be under no doubt


that while I think hopefully all of us here, certainly myself and


everyone I know, is absolutely focused on the issue of how we can


combat Daish, and what we can do beyond our borders to rid the Middle


East region of this terrible evil, and we will go on doing that. I said


that was my last, but one more quick one. Given Mr Corbyn's remarks to


Laura Kuenssberg about shooter killed, his remarks about Jihadi


John, he should have been arrested rather than eviscerated by a drone,


given his appointment of Mr Livingstone, do you still have


confidence in Mr Corbyn is leader of your party? Jeremy Renner aims are


elected leader with a substantial majority, and that isn't better


change any time soon. -- remains the elected leader. I hope that we can


resolve this and be able to work on a better basis that we have been


doing over the last few days. You optimistic about that or depressed


by the prospect? I think optimism and depression in the current


context is not quite how I would describe it. I will keep doing the


best job I have can my constituents! Thank you for joining


us. Laura, I have to say as a journalist


of quite long-standing I have never covered anything like this. For a


Monday night after Labour Parliamentary meeting I have never


had conversations like some of the conversations I had with MPs coming


out of that meeting, crucially not people where we know where they


stand, one said I feel physically sick, I do not know how much longer


I can go with this. Feelings are so high. Just as John Woodcock was


hinting, as he managed his way out of it very diplomatically, Jeremy


Corbyn's very resounding victory, even for those who think it is not


sustainable, there is no alternative. There is nobody waiting


in the wings to rush forward. The question of how this operation


survives day by day is a very live one and briefly worth mentioning,


yesterday in the House of Commons most people were focusing on what


David Cameron said that after David Cameron finished Labour MP after


Labour MPs stood up and made comments that were in open defiance


of Jeremy Corbyn. This is not just about rushed conversations with


journalists, this is starting to happen in public with people not all


on the right of the party. Given what has happened in the past ten


minutes you have got a get out of jail card. Given the problems the


opposition has would not be incumbent on the Prime Minister on


matters of national importance to be showing more leadership? I think he


showed of leadership. Labour are in a real muddle and Jeremy Corbyn...


Come on. I did not ask for your analysis of the Labour Party. We do


not have the comprehensive strategy on how to handle Syria and we do not


know whether or not we are going to get a vote in the Commons on this.


He is going to set out a response to that Foreign Affairs Committee


report. In the fullness of time. They are working on a strategy. I do


not accept there is a lack of leadership at all. You saw


leadership in spades today from David Cameron. You would say that.


Laura, a busy day for you. Now, every campaign needs a sharp


American strategist, and Leave.EU His job is to mastermind


its campaign to persuade Britons they are better off without


the European Union, and we'll be But first, Leave.EU


have some new polling out today. They asked a sample of British


voters whether the UK should remain 38% said it should leave,


with 20% undecided. Leave.EU


also asked what people feel about 48% said free movement


makes them feel unsafe. 9% said it makes them feel safe and


33% said it makes no difference. And who should be the face


of the anti-EU movement? 26% want the Ukip leader,


Nigel Farage, while the London Mayor, Boris


Johnson is the preference for 13%. Home Secretary Theresa May is


the third favourite. And Leave.EU's


Gerry Gunster joins us now. Welcome. You face and back uphill


struggle if you look at that showing that more people want to remain in


the EU. We do. There is something inherent about referendums, which is


one of the reasons why I am working here with Leave.EU and that is that


most people when it comes to referendums want to vote to keep the


status quo. You see for example in the United States 60% of all


referendums and initiatives fail. Because people do not want to make


the change. However, there is precedent and there are a lot of


times when people will go that way. Look at it like a game of billiards,


this is a double blank shot. We have to be able to convince people there


is a problem and secondly sure that there is a solution to that problem.


Billiards? Would your double pronged attack be focused on immigration or


economics or both? I think it is a combination of all of the above. The


polling is showing that they are three issues. Immigration, the


economy and the issue of whether we should have the right to make our


own laws hear in the UK as opposed to having it come out of the EU.


What should be central? The EU principle of free movement, perhaps


unsurprisingly at the moment 9% of people feel safe, bearing in mind


the context of what has been happening, 48% feel unsafe, is that


where you are going to focus? Immigration is the number 1 issue,


no question. The economy is number two. That does not mean that as the


weight is going to be in six months a year. These referendums are


extremely volatile. Use that in Greece and Scotland, numbers were


all over the place. Tomorrow it could be something else. We have got


Labour MP John man who is in the House of Commons. He is in the


Central Lobby of the House of Commons. Given everything that has


happened in recent days about Labour's response to national


security and defence, from the Labour's office, do you still have


confidence in Jeremy Corbyn as leader of your party? I have total


faith and confidence as does everyone in the Parliamentary party


in Hilary Benn who is leading for us on it, who has spelt out our policy


on should to kill, who has spelt out our policy on intervention in


Syria, and everybody including Jeremy is having to come in behind


Hilary Benn who has been given the lead and as long as Hillary


continues to give the lead in this way we are all going to be very


happy because we are in the right place. You have confidence in Hilary


Benn but not in the leader of the Labour Party? Jeremy has confidence


in Hilary as well so that is good news. Hillary speaks for the Labour


Party on matters relating to defence. That has been very clear.


Hillary answered the questions that the Parliamentary party on Monday.


That is the right approach. It is sensible for Jeremy, to allow


Hillary to lead and he has done and Hillary has done it exceedingly


well. What Hillary has said I agree with. You have not been able to


bring yourself to see that you have confidence in the leader of the


Labour Party. I have a huge amount of confidence in Jeremy allowing


Hilary Benn to lead on Syria and for him to spell out the policy. That is


what he has done. Confidence in them both. We want Hilary Benn leading


the way. Not Jeremy Corbyn. Hilary Benn is leading and that is the


right thing to do and it is succeeding because we can unite


behind what he is saying. Thank you. We only have a few seconds. That is


open warfare. It is not. He is perfectly entitled to say that. We


have a leader and Shadow Foreign Secretary who have set out the same


approach on stock to kill. Do you have confidence in Jeremy Corbyn? Of


course. He could not bring himself to say that. You have had members of


the Labour Party agreeing. There's just time to put you out


of your misery and give you The key was the launch of sky


television. Use me in the picture. The One O'Clock News is


starting over on BBC One now. I'll be here


at noon tomorrow with all the big The knives are sharpened,


and the heat is on...


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