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George Osborne wants Britain to live within its means. | :00:07. | :00:08. | |
His critics say he's cutting public services to the bone. | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
We'll find out what the Chancellor has in store for us all | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
in an hour when he tells us how he's going to spend our money over | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
Welcome to this BBC News special on the Chancellor's combined | :00:19. | :00:52. | |
Spending Review and Autumn Statement for 2015, which will help define tax | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
and spend in this country for the rest of the decade. | :00:57. | :01:00. | |
He wants to spend more on health, defence, security and now housing, | :01:01. | :01:07. | |
all while balancing the books - which means big cuts | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
That's not to mention the little matter of rowing back | :01:11. | :01:18. | |
I'm here at this brand new shopping centre in Birmingham, the city | :01:19. | :01:26. | |
at the heart of what the chancellor calls the Midlands Engine. | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
We'll be getting reaction from businesses, local government, | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
We'll also be in our virtual Treasury courtyard to look | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
at where the chancellor can find the ?20 billion of savings he says | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
I'll be here outside Parliament getting reaction from from | :01:42. | :01:48. | |
across the political spectrum to a speech that could define | :01:49. | :01:56. | |
And you can follow the story and find all the best analysis | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
on the BBC news website, throughout the day. | :02:01. | :02:13. | |
Did I mention best analysis? Of course I did. | :02:14. | :02:26. | |
for the next four hours by the BBC's political editor Laura Kuenssberg, | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
our business editor Kamal Ahmed and, in his farewell lap before he | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
leaves the BBC, our outgoing economics editor Robert Peston. | :02:34. | :02:35. | |
We'll be frisking him before he leaves | :02:36. | :02:37. | |
the studio to check he's not running off with any of the stationery. | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
So it's a big day for the Chancellor - and for the country. | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
It's Mr Osborne's thirrd Spending Review since he entered | :02:44. | :02:45. | |
At its core, he will set how much is to be spent on Government | :02:46. | :02:51. | |
departments and public services over the next four financial years. | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
Cumulatively, we're talking about well over ?3 trillion. | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
And if that's not enough excitement for one day, this year he's combined | :03:02. | :03:04. | |
his Spending Review with his annual Autumn Statement, which sets out | :03:05. | :03:07. | |
the latest official forecasts for inflation, employment, borrowing and | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
other key indicators for the course of our economy through 2016. | :03:12. | :03:18. | |
So a lot riding on today for the economy, | :03:19. | :03:26. | |
our public services, our national and economic security - | :03:27. | :03:29. | |
and, of course, for George Osborne himself. | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
We have seen George Osborne leave the Treasury a few minutes ago. He | :03:36. | :03:42. | |
made the trip safely. But the Prime Minister's car had a nasty prank | :03:43. | :03:46. | |
this morning outside Number Ten Downing St. | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
Do you think the Prime Minister was inside? I'm sure government | :03:53. | :03:58. | |
ministers will be hoping that is not a harbinger of things to come. | :03:59. | :04:06. | |
Laura, the Chancellor is under particular financial pressure, he | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
has promised to get us into surplus by the end of the decade. Every time | :04:10. | :04:13. | |
he turns a corner someone says, I want more money for this? | :04:14. | :04:21. | |
Absolutely. Today is where the rhetoric smashes up with reality and | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
their big aspiration is also their big faculty. How do you make a set | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
of hard-fought decisions, hefty cuts to many departments, look like they | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
are a programme, a coherent programme that matches the | :04:36. | :04:39. | |
priorities of the millions of voters in the middle, the floating voters | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
the Conservatives did not just want to get in this year, but want to | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
secure with an even bigger majority next time round. That is what it is | :04:48. | :04:57. | |
all about. The difficulties, with more money for health and housing, | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
less money to local council, cuts to social care and cuts to the police. | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
The most acute demonstration to this dilemma of all, what on earth will | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
he do to tax credits? Significant cuts to people who are already in | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
work. He had to signal a humiliating U-turn. The detail will be crucial | :05:16. | :05:23. | |
today. And he is a Chancellor only halfway through his deficit | :05:24. | :05:26. | |
reduction strategy which he started in 2010, he should have finished it | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
by now. And yet on health, security, tax credits, defence, he is being | :05:33. | :05:35. | |
asked to spend more money. lopsided approach to actually | :05:36. | :05:55. | |
balancing the books, which lopsided approach to actually | :05:56. | :05:56. | |
significant. There are people in lopsided approach to actually | :05:57. | :06:03. | |
Conservative Party think the ring-fencing of health and other | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
departments was fundamental strategic mistake. Instead of | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
looking at the books starting from zero, they are looking at the books | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
in a way which makes it completely lopsided and therefore making the | :06:16. | :06:18. | |
sums add up in a way they have lopsided and therefore making the | :06:19. | :06:22. | |
promised to do, it makes it almost impossible. OK. | :06:23. | :06:24. | |
promised to do, it makes it almost We should point out no one was | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
injured in the making of that crash, if crash is | :06:30. | :06:32. | |
Today's statement is fundamentally about finding | :06:33. | :06:33. | |
the further ?20 billion of savings the Chancellor says is needed to | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
eliminate the deficit and move into modest surplus by 2019-20. | :06:37. | :06:38. | |
We'll look in a moment at where he might find those savings. | :06:39. | :06:41. | |
First, Robert take us through the Osborne plan. | :06:42. | :06:58. | |
First, Robert take us through this school rules. Let's look at the | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
deficit he forecast for this this school rules. Let's look at the | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
in the July budget. -- famous fiscal rules. We already know he's going to | :07:07. | :07:21. | |
miss the deficit of ?70 billion. Over the course of the parliament in | :07:22. | :07:29. | |
the last budget, he saw that deficit declining and actually achieving a | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
surplus, I think you have already mentioned, of ?10 billion in | :07:33. | :07:40. | |
2019-20. My expectation is that surplus will be revised down, | :07:41. | :07:41. | |
because of the sort of surplus will be revised down, | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
have been talking to Laura about, the pressure just Ben Moore on | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
priorities like security and housing. So, let's put that now into | :07:49. | :07:56. | |
the context of the national debt, a whopping ?1.5 trillion in round | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
numbers. In percentage terms, that began the last Parliament just under | :08:02. | :08:09. | |
70% of GDP, or national income. It has risen progressively, painfully | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
since then, and is currently a bit over 80% of GDP. In that last | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
budget, the Chancellor made a big thing about how this would be the | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
peak year for debt as a percentage of GDP. He might not achieve that. | :08:26. | :08:34. | |
Let's see what the OBR says and we will have to wait until April am | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
frankly, to find out the truth of that. Borrowing is not going quite | :08:38. | :08:40. | |
as well as he would want. That said, he will make a priority of trying to | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
get the debt down significantly over the parliament. The last set of | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
forecasts saw the debt falling as a share of GDP to about 72% of our | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
national income. The background to all of this, it matters to him and | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
all of us, it is what happens to the economy in the round. He started the | :09:00. | :09:04. | |
last Parliament with very weak growth. It was 0.7% at its weakest | :09:05. | :09:13. | |
in the last Parliament. But then it grew progressively. It accelerated | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
progressively to 2.9% last year. That was the fastest GDP growth of | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
the big developed economies, almost back to where we were before the | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
crash, but growth has weakened since then. We expect it to be about 2.4% | :09:26. | :09:32. | |
this year, and actually, we don't expect it frankly to accelerate much | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
from that in the coming years. It could even weaken the bit. Why? | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
Because of what is happening on the other side of the world. You and I | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
have talked a lot about the slowdown in China. It is the big economic | :09:46. | :09:52. | |
event right now. We cannot rule out a Chinese crash. If that were to | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
happen, of course, everything we hear today becomes irrelevant. The | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
shock to the global economy in those circumstances would be significant. | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
He is making great play of making friends with China. He is assuming | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
the slowdown in China will be gradual and manageable. We will have | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
to wait and see. We will indeed. Thank you. | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
Today's Spending Review will set spending limits for every Whitehall | :10:18. | :10:19. | |
department for each of the next four financial years. | :10:20. | :10:24. | |
The Chancellor has been locked in discussions with his Cabinet | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
colleagues for weeks to agree the figures. | :10:28. | :10:28. | |
The meetings have taken place at the Treasury, just across the | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
The Chancellor claimed on Sunday the negotiations have been amicable. | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
That's not the word ministers whose departments | :10:36. | :10:36. | |
We'll find out who is bruised, bloodied or unbowed today. | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
At the heart of the Treasury is a circular courtyard - you might | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
recognise it because it's often used as a location for filming, including | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
the latest James Bond, which means it's now famous across the globe. | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
Now, we couldn't get Jo Coburn inside the real courtyard, despite | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
her being pretty famous - but here she is to tell us more about | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
Welcome to our virtual Treasury courtyard. | :11:04. | :11:10. | |
Now, they don't have one of these in the real courtyard, | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
but it represents everything that the Government is due to spend this | :11:16. | :11:17. | |
I'm going to start by highlighting a few of the most significant parts | :11:18. | :11:25. | |
You can see the ?217 billion that goes on social security. | :11:26. | :11:38. | |
That includes everything from jobseeker's allowance | :11:39. | :11:39. | |
And there's the ?35 billion the UK is due to spend this year | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
George Osborne says that's a figure he's is determined to bring down. | :11:45. | :11:51. | |
Now, the focus of today's statement is the money that goes on | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
administering and delivering public services - departmental spending. | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
You can see it's just under half of the total the Government spends. | :11:59. | :12:06. | |
Now, we're going to delve into the budgets of a few of the most | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
It's the NHS that accounts for the biggest chunk | :12:10. | :12:17. | |
Now, the Chancellor isn't going to find any of his savings here, | :12:18. | :12:23. | |
because he has promised to increase NHS funding in England | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
The Government has also promised a real-terms increase | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
That's part of its commitment to meeting the Nato target of spending | :12:34. | :12:40. | |
The Government has also committed to spending 0.7% of GDP | :12:41. | :12:49. | |
on overseas aid, meaning that budget is also protected. | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
So, the Chancellor is not going to find any of his ?20 billion | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
of savings says he he needs to make from either health, defence or aid. | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
So, where could it come from instead? | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
Well, what about from the education budget, a big part of what the state | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
Here, the Conservatives have promised | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
a cash increase per pupil in schools. | :13:16. | :13:18. | |
That means savings from here would be limited, although | :13:19. | :13:22. | |
the rest of the budget doesn't have any guaranteed protection. | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
Here is the money that goes to English local authorities. | :13:28. | :13:30. | |
This was one of the first departments to agree to big savings | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
The Home Office, on the other hand, took longer | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
The single biggest thing Theresa May's department spends | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
money on is the grant it gives to police forces in England and Wales, | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
although they also get some of their money from other sources, including | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
Some of the other departments that are going to have to find | :13:54. | :14:03. | |
big savings over the next four years are | :14:04. | :14:05. | |
the Departments of Business, Transport and Justice. | :14:06. | :14:07. | |
Let's go back to that big part of Government spending I mentioned | :14:08. | :14:11. | |
Of course, that is where a lot of the focus has been in the weeks | :14:12. | :14:18. | |
Now, again, here there is plenty the Chancellor won't touch. | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
The state pension is a massive part of the Budget. | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
But the Government has a long-standing promise not to cut it, | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
The other areas of big spending the Government has had to look to | :14:33. | :14:40. | |
are housing benefit, disability benefits and incapacity benefits. | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
And you can see that big sum of money, ?30 billion, | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
that is due to be spent on personal tax credits this year - | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
an area where the Chancellor has found that making savings can prove | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
Net speak to the BBC business editor now. One business that seems to be | :14:57. | :15:12. | |
very happy because of what was leaked by the Treasury, the | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
apparently 400,000 affordable homes, as the Chancellor calls them. This | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
morning, house-building shares went through the roof? They did indeed. | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
Listening to Laura and Robert, what is interesting is how it much the | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
Government need the private sector to support delivery. The strategic | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
purpose of George Osborne is to take pressure off microstate provision, | :15:36. | :15:38. | |
give it to the private sector and say, go on, help us provide the kind | :15:39. | :15:45. | |
of country and economy we want. In house-building, the centrepiece of | :15:46. | :15:49. | |
David Cameron's Conference speech, he said he didn't want Generation | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
Rent, he wanted to help people into affordable homes, that is an example | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
of that. The Government have struggled with the supply-side | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
problem. The issue they have had is that they have been constantly | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
increasing demand. So, the help to buy policy increases demand, the | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
support that we are hearing will be in the Autumn Statement that will | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
help people buy affordable homes, that increases demand. They are also | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
going to put some direct money into housing companies for them to build | :16:18. | :16:20. | |
affordable homes. The problem is that housing new-builds are down | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
slightly. That is because there is a real skill shortage in housing. Go | :16:28. | :16:30. | |
country, they can't find enough country, they can't find enough | :16:31. | :16:38. | |
in London, it had closed down by Thursday night, the builders had | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
their money for the week and they took Friday off. House-building | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
companies are building as many houses as they feel comfortable | :16:49. | :16:51. | |
with, and their profits are up hugely, 40%. The other thing to | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
watch for is how will social care changes, moving taxes down to local | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
authorities to provide support for social care, how will that have an | :17:03. | :17:05. | |
impact? The private sector provide the bulk of social care homes, they | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
have been complaining about the rise to the National Living Wage | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
affecting their business. They are being squeezed by having to pay more | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
for workers, a lot of them on minimum wage, and getting less money | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
from local authorities? Yes, those things, companies like Four | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
Seasons, the biggest provider in the UK, has been saying it is no longer | :17:28. | :17:36. | |
profitable to provide social care. It has become difficult. Sajid | :17:37. | :17:44. | |
Javid, the Business Secretary, one of the unprotected departments, how | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
much of an attack on his department will there be? | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
If you've just joined us on BBC2 and the BBC News Channel, | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
you're watching our coverage of the Spending Review and Autumn | :17:56. | :17:58. | |
Let's join Jane Hill now, who's outside the House of Commons. | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
Good morning, thank you very much. Let's get the thoughts of two of the | :18:05. | :18:12. | |
new intake of MPs. With us in a blustery House of Commons, Oliver | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
Dowden for the Conservatives and Rebecca longline for Labour. It is a | :18:16. | :18:23. | |
Spending Review, are we going to be looking at headlines about cats? Are | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
those the headlines that George Osborne is comfortable with? The | :18:27. | :18:29. | |
headlines he will be comfortable Osborne is comfortable with? The | :18:30. | :18:35. | |
with, remember we are still in a situation where the Government is | :18:36. | :18:36. | |
spending far more situation where the Government is | :18:37. | :18:40. | |
That means we are borrowing, and every pound of that is | :18:41. | :18:41. | |
future generations. We are determined to get that under | :18:42. | :18:45. | |
control, run a surplus by the determined to get that under | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
the parliament so that when the next crisis hits, we are spending less | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
than we earn and we are in a better position to deal with that. I think | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
that will be the central thrust. We know that is the thrust, but there | :18:58. | :19:00. | |
are plenty of economists, including the very respected IFS, who say that | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
the Chancellor has locked himself into a corner, and given the date, | :19:05. | :19:10. | |
he has boxed himself in? It's important we have a date, by 2019, | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
when we aim to run the surplus, the economy, hopefully, will have been | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
growing for ten years. If the economy has been growing for ten | :19:21. | :19:22. | |
years and we can't grow a surplus, how would we be able to cope when | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
the economy, inevitably, falls into another recession? We don't believe | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
boom and bust has been abolished. So it is just our custody, that has to | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
be cuts for those reasons? I agree with Oliver on the fact that we need | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
to reduce the deficit, but it needs to be done in a long term, | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
sustainable way. He has missed his financial targets time and again. He | :19:47. | :19:50. | |
referred the IFS making comments about it. They have stated in order | :19:51. | :19:54. | |
to meet its targets this time, he has to make cuts of an unprecedented | :19:55. | :19:58. | |
scale. The cuts are no doubt going to fall on areas of key economic | :19:59. | :20:04. | |
growth, such as education, skills, business investment. We need to | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
start planning the infrastructure, investment, manufacturing strategy. | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
I doubt we will have any of that from the Chancellor today. Our | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
business editor was just saying that share prices are up in | :20:17. | :20:19. | |
house-building companies, if we get lots of positive news about | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
house-building, is that going to be the one positive that even your | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
party would agree with, the desperate need for housing? I think | :20:27. | :20:32. | |
that the Chancellor is definitely a shrewd political operator, he will | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
offer some sweeteners to lessen the blow. In terms of house-building, | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
the devil is always in the detail. I welcome the pledge to build 400,000 | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
more houses. We want to see where those houses are going to be and if | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
they are going to be put in the social rented sector. A quick | :20:49. | :20:51. | |
thought about a more political side to it, this is about George | :20:52. | :20:56. | |
Osborne's personal ambitions, he's got to shake things so that the pain | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
comes soon, so by the time he has his eyes on a even bigger job, the | :21:00. | :21:09. | |
bulk of the cuts have gone? I think his ambition is on turning his | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
country around. It is interesting what Rebecca was saying about | :21:13. | :21:15. | |
investment. One of the decisions he has taken is to protect things like | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
investment in schools, so it is maintained every year, per pupil. On | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
housing, the massive investment in housing to make sure young people | :21:24. | :21:26. | |
get on the housing ladder. The Chancellor wants to make sure that | :21:27. | :21:29. | |
everybody gets the best start in life, investment in schools, housing | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
in young people or for old people, so when they have worked hard all | :21:35. | :21:37. | |
their lives, they get dignity and security in retirement, which is why | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
there has been a big increase in the state pension. That is where his | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
efforts are focused. We must leave it there, thank you very much. Much | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
more from the once we have heard from the Chancellor. | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
George Osborne's going to be talking a lot | :21:54. | :21:55. | |
We'll hear a lot about his Northern Powerhouse and, now, | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
At the heart of that is the city of Birmingham. | :22:01. | :22:06. | |
Jo Coburn has left her virtual Treasury courtyard and is already | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
Who needs HS2 when you have the magic of television? | :22:10. | :22:21. | |
Yes, I am at Grand Central. Not New York, but the shiny new shopping | :22:22. | :22:31. | |
centre in Birmingham. I'm here to talk about the Autumn Statement and | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
George Osborne's five-year spending plan. First to talk to us, a | :22:37. | :22:43. | |
representative from Unison and from the Taxpayers' Alliance. The | :22:44. | :22:46. | |
announcement that extra cash to the NHS would be front loaded, welcome | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
news? Any extra money is to be welcomed, but it is too little, too | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
late. The real issue is the chronic underfunding of social care. It | :22:59. | :23:01. | |
means elderly patients cannot be discharged quickly enough back into | :23:02. | :23:03. | |
their homes, which means they are taking up beds and we are definitely | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
going to end up with a real crisis in A this winter. There will be a | :23:09. | :23:12. | |
lot of focus on savings and cuts that George Osborne has pledged to | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
make in the Spending Review and over the course of the parliament. Does | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
he really want to be known as the Chancellor of austerity? He ought to | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
be known as the Chancellor that balances the nation 's books. If | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
he's to do that, he has to make savings. This year, the Government | :23:28. | :23:34. | |
is spending ?70 billion more than it raised in revenue. That means | :23:35. | :23:36. | |
borrowing and the national debt is going up and we are paying more debt | :23:37. | :23:39. | |
interest payments and we are spending on defending the nation, | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
the defence Budget. That is unacceptable. He needs to balance | :23:45. | :23:47. | |
the books, get the nation living within its means to ensure future | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
prosperity. Lets get a little bit more about growing the economy. | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
Let's talk to somebody from the Greater Birmingham Chamber Of | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
Commerce. We were talking about austerity against growth. What is | :24:02. | :24:06. | |
more important to businesses? Got to be a mix. We recognise that the UK | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
deficit is out of control, the Government spending more than the | :24:12. | :24:13. | |
defence Budget servicing the interest on the debt. It really does | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
need to be put in line, but it can't be at the expense of facilitating | :24:21. | :24:23. | |
business growth. That is what we are looking for today, how the | :24:24. | :24:25. | |
Chancellor was going to help businesses, which helps grow jobs | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
and, in turn, helps increase the tax receipts to get the deficit down. | :24:30. | :24:33. | |
What particularly would you like to see him do? We would like some | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
clarity on a number of points, the apprenticeship levy, how it is going | :24:38. | :24:41. | |
to work. Businesses are really keen to boost the skills and | :24:42. | :24:45. | |
employability of youngsters in the region, but we don't know how the | :24:46. | :24:48. | |
funding is going to work. Clarity would be fantastic. We would like to | :24:49. | :24:51. | |
see further announcements on business rates. The Chancellor was | :24:52. | :24:57. | |
going to devolve spending on that, but we need reform and more | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
certainty on whether there will be small business rates relief into | :25:01. | :25:03. | |
next year. Henrietta, thank you. One of the things that will be most | :25:04. | :25:06. | |
important to people as they are starting to think about Christmas | :25:07. | :25:12. | |
shopping is personal finances. Their financial security. So, who better | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
to talk to than our personal finance expert, Annie Shaw? One thing is | :25:17. | :25:21. | |
people were worried about is cuts to tax credits. George Osborne run into | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
problems with those plans, and there are expectations he will soften that | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
in some way. If he does, where else could he get savings? This is the | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
big question. Is he going to go back to the same people and try to get | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
the money out of them in other ways? Things like cuts to housing benefit, | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
that would be affected by cuts to their tax credits. Is he going to go | :25:42. | :25:48. | |
around the periphery? I think I would be slightly worried about | :25:49. | :25:56. | |
these pensions... Pension scene. He said he won't do any major pension | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
reforms until after the Budget, but I think there could be some measures | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
stopping the buy now while stocks last, people doing last-minute | :26:04. | :26:07. | |
avoidance things like stuffing pensions now. I would watch out for | :26:08. | :26:15. | |
tinkering with pension issues. If you have any questions to put to our | :26:16. | :26:19. | |
guests saw any stories, if you are in Birmingham, you can e-mail us, | :26:20. | :26:30. | |
tweet us or you can send us a text message. It's too much for me to | :26:31. | :26:38. | |
remember without my Hundi -- handy iPad. | :26:39. | :26:40. | |
And you can also take advantage the BBC's range of expert analysis | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
and all the latest developments on the BBC website. | :26:45. | :26:53. | |
It's coming up midday here at Westminster - | :26:54. | :26:55. | |
very soon we'll go over to the House of Commons | :26:56. | :26:57. | |
and that will be followed by the Chancellor's statement. | :26:58. | :27:11. | |
First, let's look at some of the measures that have been | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
already announced, and others we're expecting to hear today. | :27:15. | :27:20. | |
The biggest was the announcement earlier this week, we were told the | :27:21. | :27:27. | |
NHS in England, equivalent spending will be for Scotland, Wales and | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
Northern Ireland, it needs to get an extra ?4 billion above inflation | :27:33. | :27:36. | |
next year, part of the frontloading that the NHS has been asking for to | :27:37. | :27:39. | |
get the money in now as it rises towards an extra ?8 billion towards | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
the end of the parliament. Schools and foreign aid are protected | :27:44. | :27:49. | |
departments, so no cuts expected in these areas. Defence was not | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
protected, it is now, indeed, it got an extra ?12 billion earlier this | :27:54. | :27:57. | |
week to spend on defence equipment over the next five years, taking the | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
total on defence equipment to 178 billion. Locked in, like foreign | :28:03. | :28:11. | |
aid, as a percentage of GDP, 2%. Tax credits, the Chancellor came out | :28:12. | :28:14. | |
with a number of cuts in the July Budget. It is only November, but | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
he's already having to roll back on that. It will cost him money and we | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
will look to see how he does it. We expect tax credit changes to be | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
eased. The latest thing to be leaked by the Treasury leak machine is the | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
idea that the Government will encourage, preside over the building | :28:33. | :28:38. | |
of 400,000 affordable homes at a cost of ?7 billion. There | :28:39. | :28:40. | |
of 400,000 affordable homes at a an alert on these, a warning, the | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
Government often set is kind of targets, whether they meet them is | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
another matter. Because central government spending and local | :28:50. | :28:51. | |
government spending has been squeezed, the Chancellor will allow | :28:52. | :28:56. | |
local authorities to raise council tax by 2%, provided the money, and | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
only if the money, goes to social care, because of the move from NHS | :29:03. | :29:08. | |
hospitals and so on into care in the community. Whether that will be | :29:09. | :29:11. | |
enough is another matter. Whether those areas that need social care | :29:12. | :29:14. | |
most, it tends to be the poorer areas, we'll get that much from a 2% | :29:15. | :29:18. | |
rise in council tax, those are all things we will be keeping an eye on | :29:19. | :29:26. | |
and discussing as this three and a half hours goes on. Laura, we have a | :29:27. | :29:30. | |
pretty fair idea what he's going to do, they have helpfully leaked a lot | :29:31. | :29:31. | |
of it! do, they have helpfully leaked a lot | :29:32. | :29:38. | |
is the rabbit? I'm not do, they have helpfully leaked a lot | :29:39. | :29:40. | |
going to be a rabid today. There will be surprises, I'm | :29:41. | :29:48. | |
understanding, but I don't think, or I have | :29:49. | :29:58. | |
understanding, but I don't think, or be led back to their | :29:59. | :29:58. | |
constituencies... Which he has been be led back to their | :29:59. | :30:04. | |
famous for? Indeed he has, I don't think we will see it. There will be | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
surprises, cunning wheezes, but I'm not too sure about that. May be like | :30:08. | :30:13. | |
a little mouse, rather than a rabbit? He has an astute political | :30:14. | :30:22. | |
as well as economic brain. On this occasion, the judgments are similar | :30:23. | :30:27. | |
for him personally. We are still relatively early in Parliament. | :30:28. | :30:34. | |
Personally, he has had a bit of a popularity dip as a result of the | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
tax credit debacle. I think he will be thinking what I need to do is to | :30:41. | :30:43. | |
make some quite tough decisions, because the last thing he wants is | :30:44. | :30:47. | |
for things to go wrong when he is running for the Tory party | :30:48. | :30:49. | |
leadership. Everyone in this House and everyone | :30:50. | :31:06. | |
watching at home know from Yes, Prime Minister, the central role | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
that Bernard plays in the life of the Prime Minister and Number Ten | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
Downing St. This morning, my Bernard, my principal private sector | :31:17. | :31:21. | |
we died of cancer. Chris Martin was only 42. He was one of the most | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
loyal, hard-working, dedicated public servants I have come across. | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
I have no idea what his politics were but he would go to the ends of | :31:32. | :31:35. | |
the Earth and back again, for his Prime Minister, for ten and the team | :31:36. | :31:41. | |
we work for. Today, we are leaving the seat where he used to sit empty, | :31:42. | :31:45. | |
as a mark of respect to him. We think of his wife, Zoe, his family, | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
the wider Number Ten family, because it is like a family, and we feel | :31:51. | :31:54. | |
like we have lost someone between a father and brother to all of us, and | :31:55. | :31:58. | |
whatever happens, we will never forget him. | :31:59. | :32:01. | |
Mr Speaker, this morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues | :32:02. | :32:28. | |
and others, and in addition to the duties of the House, I will have | :32:29. | :32:30. | |
further meetings today. Can I firstly echoed the prime Mr's | :32:31. | :32:32. | |
sentiments regarding the passing of Chris Martin. I'm sure all members | :32:33. | :32:34. | |
will have heartfelt thoughts and prayers today and we would be | :32:35. | :32:37. | |
grateful if they could be conveyed to the family at this time. The | :32:38. | :32:42. | |
Prime Minister is a champion of family life, so could he confirm | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
that the announcements he will make today will pass the family test for | :32:49. | :32:58. | |
vulnerable people? Can I thank the honourable member for her words. | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
Families are the best welfare state we have. They teach us the right | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
Phileas, they bring up our children and they care for us when they are | :33:08. | :33:15. | |
sick and unwell. We will boost the national Living Wage, delivered tax | :33:16. | :33:21. | |
cuts and crucially help with childcare. All of these policies | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
should pass the test of helping Britain's families. | :33:26. | :33:31. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you, Mr Speaker. On the half of the | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
opposition, could I also express my condolences regarding Chris Martin. | :33:37. | :33:42. | |
The Prime Minister told me how it will he was on Remembrance Sunday | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
and I'm glad he could visit him at that time. Many members of | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
government appreciates the work he did in the very highest and best | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
traditions in the civil service of this country. If our condolences | :33:55. | :33:56. | |
could be passed on, I think that would be very helpful. | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
This week, 55 Labour councils has made a commitment for their areas to | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
be running entirely on green energy by 2050. With the Paris climate | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
talks just days away, with the Prime Minister commend those councils? I | :34:11. | :34:21. | |
certainly commend councils for wanting to promote green energy and | :34:22. | :34:27. | |
we have had green tariffs and other measures to help, particularly solar | :34:28. | :34:31. | |
power and also wind power. We will be taking part in the Paris climate | :34:32. | :34:35. | |
talks because it is absolutely vital to get that global deal, but we have | :34:36. | :34:40. | |
to make sure we take action locally as well as globally. I would make | :34:41. | :34:43. | |
the point that if you compare the last Parliament, to the previous | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
parliament, we saw something like a trebling of the installation of | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
renewable electricity. The commitment of those Labour | :34:55. | :34:58. | |
councils is a bit of a contrast to the Prime Minister's performance. He | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
used to tell us that his was the greenest government ever. Does he | :35:04. | :35:07. | |
remember those days? Does he agree with the Energy Secretary that | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
Britain is likely to miss its target of getting 15% of our energy from | :35:12. | :35:17. | |
renewables by 2020? First of all, I believe that the | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
last government does rightly claim that record, the world's first green | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
investment bank, pioneered in Britain. The trebling of renewable | :35:27. | :35:31. | |
energy, a meeting of all our climate change targets contributing to an EU | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
deal that means we go to the climate change conference in Paris, with a | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
very strong European record and the ability to say to other countries | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
that they should step up to the plate. It was in the last | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
Parliament, we spent record sums helping developing countries to go | :35:49. | :35:51. | |
green, and in the next five years, we will be spending $9 billion on | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
helping other countries, which will be crucial to building the Paris | :35:57. | :36:00. | |
deal next week. The problem with the prime and is | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
the's answer is, the gap between Britain's 2020 target and our | :36:06. | :36:09. | |
current share of renewable energy, is the biggest in the European | :36:10. | :36:12. | |
Union. Some of his decisions he has made recently, such as cutting | :36:13. | :36:17. | |
support for solar panels on home and industrial projects, scrapping the | :36:18. | :36:21. | |
green deal, cutting support for wind turbines, putting a new tax of | :36:22. | :36:27. | |
renewable energy, increasing subsidy for diesel generators, is it any | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
wonder that the chief scientists of the United Nations environment | :36:31. | :36:33. | |
programme has criticised Britain for going backwards on renewable energy? | :36:34. | :36:39. | |
The facts paint a different picture. As I said, trebling of wind power in | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
the last Parliament. That is an enormous investment. Also, he makes | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
the point about solar panels. Of course, when the cost of | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
manufacturing solar panels plummets as it has, it is right to reduce the | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
subsidy. If we don't reduce the subsidy, we ask people to pay higher | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
energy bills, something I seem to remember the Labour Party in the | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
last Parliament making a lot of. I think if you look for the | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
secretaries climate change's speech, you can make the right | :37:10. | :37:13. | |
balance between affordable energy and making sure we meet our green | :37:14. | :37:15. | |
targets. That is what we are committed to. In addition to that, | :37:16. | :37:20. | |
building the first new clip power station for decades in our country, | :37:21. | :37:25. | |
something the Labour Party talked about a lot in government but we are | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
putting into action now we are in government -- first new nuclear | :37:30. | :37:33. | |
power station. In the past weeks, thousands have | :37:34. | :37:37. | |
been lost in solar companies in Britain as they have gone bust. I | :37:38. | :37:42. | |
have a question from some apprentices solar fitters. They say | :37:43. | :37:49. | |
cutting feed in tariffs means you are stopping solar projects that | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
they need to help our environment give us jobs. They asked the Prime | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
Minister this: Wide you want to throw all this away? We are doubling | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
investment in renewable energy in this Parliament and as for solar | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
panels, I think I am right in saying, in the last Parliament, over | :38:08. | :38:11. | |
a million homes were fitted with solar panels. It is right we go on | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
supporting that industry, but we should do it recognising that the | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
cost of manufacturing solar panels has plummeted, and so therefore the | :38:22. | :38:24. | |
subsidy should be what is necessary to deliver solar power, not as what | :38:25. | :38:28. | |
is necessary to pump up the bills of hard-working families. | :38:29. | :38:34. | |
That is not much help to those who are losing their jobs in the solar | :38:35. | :38:38. | |
industry at the present time. However, I would like to ask the | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
Prime Minister something else. Today is the International Day for the | :38:44. | :38:46. | |
elimination of violence against women. On average, two women a week | :38:47. | :38:52. | |
are killed by a current or former partner, and domestic violence | :38:53. | :38:55. | |
accounts for a quarter of all violent crime. Can the Prime | :38:56. | :38:58. | |
Minister explain why one third of those referred to women's refuges in | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
England are now being turned away? We have put more money into refuges | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
and the Chancellor will have something to say about funding | :39:08. | :39:15. | |
women's charities in his Autumn Statement today. The fact is, when | :39:16. | :39:18. | |
it comes to rape crisis centres that we protect or domestic violence | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
centres that we fund, this government has a good record on | :39:23. | :39:25. | |
helping women and making sure that the crime of domestic violence is | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
properly investigated by the police and prosecuted in our courts. 20, Mr | :39:31. | :39:41. | |
Speaker. The late Denise Marshall who was chair of a domestic violence | :39:42. | :39:46. | |
charity put this throw well when she said, if you are a woman who has | :39:47. | :39:49. | |
experienced some form of violence, I believe you have the right to the | :39:50. | :39:55. | |
very best service and the community owes you a right to recover. In | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
2012, the Prime Minister's government signed the Istanbul | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
convention on preventing and combating violence against women. | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
This would make women's support services statutory and would have | :40:08. | :40:13. | |
stopped the closure of Eve's. Will the primers to tell the House when | :40:14. | :40:16. | |
he will ratify the Istanbul convention. We are going further | :40:17. | :40:23. | |
than that. We will be putting more money into women's charities, | :40:24. | :40:28. | |
including charities which fight domestic violence, which fight rape | :40:29. | :40:31. | |
and make sure we cut out these appalling crimes in our country. In | :40:32. | :40:36. | |
addition to that, we have also done more than any previous government, | :40:37. | :40:40. | |
in terms of preventing forced marriage and preventing the horrors | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
of FGM which do not just happen in Nigeria and countries in North | :40:45. | :40:47. | |
Africa, they happen here in our country as well. I don't think any | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
government before this one has a stronger record on those grounds. | :40:55. | :40:59. | |
Thank you, Mr Speaker. I have many constituents and Lewis who come to | :41:00. | :41:02. | |
my surgery desperate to end their own home. Many of them are on a low | :41:03. | :41:07. | |
income and they recognise that a monthly mortgage payment would be | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
significantly lower than that current monthly rental payments. | :41:13. | :41:15. | |
Does my right honourable friend share in the excitement of any of my | :41:16. | :41:19. | |
constituents, towards the starter homes initiative contained in the | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
housing bill which will see affordable housing lower than the | :41:24. | :41:26. | |
monthly outgoings of many people in this country? | :41:27. | :41:32. | |
I do share my honourable friend's enthusiasm for that. Clearly there | :41:33. | :41:36. | |
are lots of individual interventions like help by which has basically put | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
buying homes in the of many more people by reducing the deposits they | :41:42. | :41:44. | |
need. We can help people to save which we do with our Help to Buy ISA | :41:45. | :41:50. | |
will stop our biggest contribution we can make is by building more | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
housing which we will be doing during this Parliament, and | :41:56. | :41:57. | |
crucially by maintaining during this Parliament, and | :41:58. | :42:01. | |
secure and stable economy with low interest rates so people can afford | :42:02. | :42:06. | |
to take out a mortgage. May I begin by associating the | :42:07. | :42:10. | |
Scottish National Party with the condolences of the Prime Minister. | :42:11. | :42:11. | |
Having spoken to him last condolences of the Prime Minister. | :42:12. | :42:15. | |
aware of how much a personal loss it is to him and also to | :42:16. | :42:19. | |
aware of how much a personal loss it Martin's family and friends. The | :42:20. | :42:21. | |
fatal dangers of Martin's family and friends. The | :42:22. | :42:24. | |
consequences and escalation in Syria, are clear for everybody to | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
consequences and escalation in see in these days. It is agreed that | :42:30. | :42:32. | |
an air campaign alone will not lead to the ultimate defeat of Daesh on | :42:33. | :42:36. | |
the ground and ground forces will be needed. How many troops and from | :42:37. | :42:39. | |
which countries does the Prime Minister having his plan for Syria? | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
Firstly, can I thank the right honourable gentleman for his | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
comments on Chris Martin who I know helped all members of this House | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
when they had enquiries. Let me deal with the issue of Syria. | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
I am not for one moment arguing that action from the air alone can solve | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
the very serious problem we have with Isil. Clearly we need a | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
political settlement in Syria and government in Syria which can act on | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
pensively with us against Isil. The question for the House that we need | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
to address tomorrow and in the to come, can we afford to wait for that | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
political settlement before we act? My view is, we cannot wait for that | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
political settlement. Should we should work as hard as we can for it | :43:27. | :43:29. | |
but we should be acting now with our allies, because it is about keeping | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
our own people and our own country safe. He asked specifically about | :43:35. | :43:39. | |
ground troops. There are troops in Syria. The three Syrian army and the | :43:40. | :43:41. | |
Kurdish forces that would work Syria. The three Syrian army and the | :43:42. | :43:45. | |
us to help eliminate Isil, but the full range of ground troops will | :43:46. | :43:55. | |
only be a valuable when there is a political settlement in Syria. The | :43:56. | :43:57. | |
question is simple, can we wait for that political settlement before | :43:58. | :43:59. | |
taking action to keep our people safe at home, and my answer is, we | :44:00. | :44:02. | |
cannot afford to wait. The United Kingdom spent 13 times more bombing | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
Libya then investing in its reconstruction after the overthrow | :44:08. | :44:11. | |
of the Gaddafi regime. We construct in Syria will be essential to | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
of the Gaddafi regime. We construct restore stability and allow refugees | :44:17. | :44:18. | |
to return. How much does the Prime Minister estimate this will cost and | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
how much has he allocated from the UK? | :44:24. | :44:25. | |
We have one of the largest development budgets anywhere in the | :44:26. | :44:29. | |
world as is the support that we have given to Syrian refugees which | :44:30. | :44:32. | |
stands at one of the largest development budgets anywhere in the | :44:33. | :44:34. | |
world as is the support that we have given to Syrian refugees which | :44:35. | :44:36. | |
stands at ?1.2 billion in demonstrates. Part of our plan will | :44:37. | :44:39. | |
be to help fund the reconstruction and rebuilding of Syria alongside | :44:40. | :44:44. | |
the political deal that we believe is necessary. I would far rather | :44:45. | :44:48. | |
frankly spend the money reconstructing Syria, than in | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
supporting people kept away from their homes, kept away from their | :44:53. | :44:59. | |
country, who do you want to return. I know that my right honourable | :45:00. | :45:03. | |
friend was aware of the growing cause of concern surrounding the | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
conviction of Alexander Blackman, the former Royal Marine | :45:09. | :45:15. | |
non-commissioned officer who shot an insurgent in 2011. If there is | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
indeed new evidence and many feel that has been a miscarriage of | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
justice, would my right honourable friend agree with me that it is | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
right that this matter should be looked into again? This is exactly | :45:28. | :45:36. | |
what the Criminal Cases Review Commission is there to look at, | :45:37. | :45:39. | |
where there may have been a miscarriage of justice. We gave the | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
internal report of the Naval services to Sergeant Blackman's | :45:44. | :45:46. | |
legal advisers. There is proper disclosure in this case and the | :45:47. | :45:50. | |
legal team have said they look at the option of applying to the | :45:51. | :45:52. | |
Criminal Cases Review Commission. Let me say while we are on this | :45:53. | :45:56. | |
point that our Royal Marines have a worldwide reputation as one of the | :45:57. | :46:01. | |
world's elite fighting forces. They have made an success, and incredible | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
conservation to our country and we should pay tribute to them. The | :46:07. | :46:14. | |
Government's handle of child sexual abuse inquiries has done little to | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
instil public confidence so far. The Gothard inquiry announced they had | :46:19. | :46:23. | |
accidentally and permanently deleted all of the victim testimony | :46:24. | :46:26. | |
submitted through the website over an 18 day period, without anyone | :46:27. | :46:32. | |
from the inquiry ever reading now. These victims deserve justice, and | :46:33. | :46:35. | |
for their voices to be heard. Can the Prime Minister please tell the | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
House what independent investigation has taken place to establish the | :46:40. | :46:44. | |
cause of the data loss and to establish whether or not there was | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
any criminality behind it? I am sure the whole House will welcome the | :46:49. | :46:56. | |
fact that the Goddard inquiries about running. The best way to get | :46:57. | :46:59. | |
justice for these victims is to make sure we have the full independent | :47:00. | :47:05. | |
inquiry. The specific issue she raises, it is a matter for the | :47:06. | :47:09. | |
inquiry, if there is further details, I will write to her, what | :47:10. | :47:12. | |
matters is that it is up and running. 3000 jobs in Newark were | :47:13. | :47:22. | |
lost and a Labour. This month, we celebrate the 10,000 new job in | :47:23. | :47:32. | |
Newark since 2010. Does the Prime Minister agree that once again | :47:33. | :47:35. | |
Newark leads the way to a strong economy, high employment, higher | :47:36. | :47:43. | |
wages and lower welfare? I'm delighted to hear that Newark has | :47:44. | :47:47. | |
met this landmark and it is worth remembering that these 10,000 | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
figures, they are 10,000 people, each with a job, with a livelihood, | :47:51. | :47:55. | |
with the chance to support their families. I well remember visiting | :47:56. | :47:59. | |
my honourable friend's constituency. I can't promise to visit as many | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
times in this Parliament as the last, but I do recognise a business | :48:04. | :48:12. | |
that we visited announced the creation of over 200 jobs. I am sure | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
others will follow. Has the Prime Minister ever heard of Alan | :48:17. | :48:25. | |
Cartwright, Stefan Appleton? Teenagers that were stabbed to death | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
on the streets of Islington last year. Vaso was murdered just two | :48:29. | :48:39. | |
days ago. Given the growing culture of drugs, guns and violence in my | :48:40. | :48:42. | |
borough and many others like it, does the Prime Minister really think | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
it is in the interests of my constituents, for their safety and | :48:47. | :48:49. | |
security, to cut the Metropolitan Police? First of all, every life | :48:50. | :48:53. | |
lost in a way that she talks about is a tragedy. Many of these lives | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
have been lost because of drugs, gangs and because of my crime. | :48:58. | :49:01. | |
Overall, knife crime has come down over the last few years, which is | :49:02. | :49:08. | |
welcome. There are still too many people carrying a knife and not | :49:09. | :49:11. | |
recognising that not only is it against the law, it is also an | :49:12. | :49:14. | |
enormous danger to themselves and others. We will continue with the | :49:15. | :49:17. | |
tough approach on knife crime, with the work we're doing to disband and | :49:18. | :49:20. | |
break of gangs and the work to try to deal with the problems of drugs. | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
When it comes to policing, what we have seen in London is an increase | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
in neighbourhood policing. The Metropolitan Police have done a good | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
job at cutting back-office costs and putting police on streets. After | :49:33. | :49:41. | |
many years of neglect under Labour, Cornwall is once again seeing | :49:42. | :49:44. | |
investment in roads, railways, airport and in tourism. But Cornwall | :49:45. | :49:50. | |
is ambitious to diversify its economy and become a centre for the | :49:51. | :49:55. | |
UK aerospace industry. Indeed, Newquay airport is to be the | :49:56. | :50:02. | |
forerunner for the creation of a UK spaceport. Could the Prime Minister | :50:03. | :50:05. | |
provide an update on the decision, and does he agree with me that | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
Newquay would be the perfect place for it? It is good in this | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
Parliament we have such strong voices for Cornwall speaking up for | :50:14. | :50:20. | |
that county and making sure that it makes the resources it needs. I'm a | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
strong supporter of the airport, not just as a user, but also I think it | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
provides the opportunity for a hope of great businesses in Cornwall. We | :50:29. | :50:32. | |
want to become the European hub for space flight, which will attract | :50:33. | :50:35. | |
further investment into the UK and create jobs. There are a number of | :50:36. | :50:39. | |
other airports in the running, I wish them all well and I can tell | :50:40. | :50:42. | |
him we are aiming to launch selection process next year. The | :50:43. | :50:50. | |
Government and I disagree on much of what constitutes progress on gender | :50:51. | :50:55. | |
equality, but I agreed with the Prime Minister when he pledged to | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
change the law to include mothers on marriage certificates. I have heard | :51:00. | :51:02. | |
nothing since. I wondered if the Prime Minister agreed with me that, | :51:03. | :51:08. | |
with the fast approaching birth of my daughter, I would like to be | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
valued as equally in her life as my husband. Will the Prime Minister | :51:12. | :51:16. | |
take this important, symbolic step to ensure that mothers are not | :51:17. | :51:22. | |
written out of history? This is an area where the honourable lady and I | :51:23. | :51:27. | |
agree. My understanding is that the proposals for legislation have gone | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
to the relevant committee in Government and she has made a very | :51:32. | :51:34. | |
articulate case for why that bill should be included in the next | :51:35. | :51:42. | |
session. Will the Prime Minister join with me in commending the | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
French government for facing down terror are continuing with the | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
climate summit in Paris next week, and will acknowledge the important | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
role of legislators such as at the Globe Summit on the fourth and 5th | :51:55. | :51:58. | |
of December, does he agree with me that his personal presence in Paris | :51:59. | :52:01. | |
sends a message out to the world about our continuing commitment to a | :52:02. | :52:07. | |
lasting climate deal? I am grateful for what my honourable friend says. | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
I will certainly be going to Paris to the start of this vital | :52:11. | :52:14. | |
Conference, to set out what Britain and the European Union will be doing | :52:15. | :52:17. | |
to bring about this deal. What we put on the table in terms of climate | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
finance, nearly $9 billion over the next five years, is one of the most | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
generous offers made by any country anywhere in the world. The good news | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
about the Paris Conference is that we are going to see China and | :52:31. | :52:34. | |
America as signatories to a deal. That means that much more of the | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
world's emissions are going to be covered by the deal. What we have to | :52:38. | :52:42. | |
make sure we achieve is to make sure it is a proper deal with proper | :52:43. | :52:48. | |
review clauses, to make sure we keep to 2 degrees. Nobody should be in | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
any doubt that Britain is playing a leading role, and has lead by | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
example and with money. Mr Speaker, there will never be a future where | :52:58. | :53:00. | |
we do not need steel, but the Government is spending millions of | :53:01. | :53:06. | |
pounds to compensate for the use of you... -- loss of UK steel-making. | :53:07. | :53:10. | |
Guy Aston Prime Minister he will send a clear signal that he will do | :53:11. | :53:13. | |
whatever it takes to back a sustainable, cutting-edge UK steel | :53:14. | :53:21. | |
future? We want to see more steel across the world stamped with made | :53:22. | :53:25. | |
in Britain. I completely agree with the honourable lady. We want to | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
support the steel business, which is why we are taking action on | :53:30. | :53:34. | |
procurement. When we look at what we have done through the Royal Navy, | :53:35. | :53:39. | |
what we can do through Railtrack and other organisations, we can back | :53:40. | :53:42. | |
British Steel. We are also going to be exempting users like British | :53:43. | :53:49. | |
Steel from energy usage charges. It does go to the questions asked by | :53:50. | :53:57. | |
the leader of the position. If we endlessly pressure builds for | :53:58. | :54:00. | |
everybody else, it costs more to exempt the high users. Everything we | :54:01. | :54:04. | |
can do to help British Steel, including a very clear | :54:05. | :54:06. | |
infrastructure plan you will be hearing about in a minute, is all to | :54:07. | :54:08. | |
the good. In 2010, unemployment in my | :54:09. | :54:22. | |
constituency stood at 5% of the population. It has now dropped to | :54:23. | :54:27. | |
just 1.6%. I am sure my honourable friend agrees with me, to help those | :54:28. | :54:32. | |
people still unemployed and boost productivity and wages in places | :54:33. | :54:36. | |
like wire forest, we need to offer more opportunities for skills | :54:37. | :54:39. | |
training. Does my right honourable friend agree with that, and what | :54:40. | :54:45. | |
more can the Government offer in order to help places like Wyre | :54:46. | :54:51. | |
Forest? All young people should have a real choice of being able to take | :54:52. | :54:57. | |
on in chilly an apprenticeship, or to be able to go to a university. We | :54:58. | :55:01. | |
don't want everybody left behind. Everybody should have that choice. | :55:02. | :55:04. | |
He is right that unemployment has fallen in his constituency, as | :55:05. | :55:11. | |
around the company. The fact is, Britain, over those five years, has | :55:12. | :55:15. | |
grown as fast as any other G-7 country in terms of economic | :55:16. | :55:18. | |
performance. You can now look back and see that the decisions made in | :55:19. | :55:23. | |
2010, 2011, 2012, difficult decisions, but they laid the | :55:24. | :55:25. | |
platform for decisions, but they laid the | :55:26. | :55:31. | |
growth and jobs. Education in Bradford is facing a funding and | :55:32. | :55:37. | |
school places crisis and we remain at the bottom of the league tables. | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
Bradford's children cannot be failed any longer. Will the Prime Minister | :55:43. | :55:47. | |
support my call for a Bradford Challenge, based on the highly | :55:48. | :55:52. | |
successful London Challenge? Will he stop the dangerous changes to the | :55:53. | :55:57. | |
schools funding formula that will drag the children Bradford further | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
into the land of inequality, despair and neglect? We made commitments at | :56:03. | :56:10. | |
the last election about funding our schools, funding school places. We | :56:11. | :56:15. | |
will be keeping all of those commitments, not just the revenue | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
that we provide for schools, where we will not be reducing the amount | :56:20. | :56:21. | |
per pupil, but also spending much we will not be reducing the amount | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
more on new school places in this Parliament than in the Parliament | :56:26. | :56:27. | |
that preceded Parliament than in the Parliament | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
Minister. We are also helping with building new academy chains and free | :56:32. | :56:35. | |
schools, they are available for his constituency, as for others. Does my | :56:36. | :56:40. | |
right honourable friend the Prime Minister agree with me that the | :56:41. | :56:44. | |
turmoil in northern Iraq and Syria gives opportunities to resolve | :56:45. | :56:47. | |
long-standing international disputes, not least with Russia? | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
Does he agree with me that the attack on the Russian bomber, | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
something that never happened in the whole of the duration of the Cold | :56:55. | :56:59. | |
War, was disproportionate, and we need to make sure absolutely that we | :57:00. | :57:03. | |
do not get into conflict with Russia over Syria? What I would say to my | :57:04. | :57:09. | |
honourable friend is, look, I think there are opportunities for sensible | :57:10. | :57:12. | |
discussions with Russia about the agenda in Syria, which is about a | :57:13. | :57:17. | |
political transition, so there can be a Government that represents all | :57:18. | :57:21. | |
of the people of Syria. I have that conversation with President Putin | :57:22. | :57:26. | |
last week. He mentions the issue of the downed Russian jet. The facts on | :57:27. | :57:29. | |
this not yet clear. I think we should respect Turkey's right to | :57:30. | :57:35. | |
respect its airspace, as we defend our own. I think we have to get to | :57:36. | :57:42. | |
the bottom of what happened. The Prime Minister very often tells us | :57:43. | :57:46. | |
that the first duty of any government is to protect the | :57:47. | :57:49. | |
public. Will he give an undertaking to restore the cuts to the police | :57:50. | :57:54. | |
and emergency services to ensure that the public in this country are | :57:55. | :57:59. | |
protected? I think this Government has a good record of protecting the | :58:00. | :58:03. | |
public, not least because we protected counterterrorism policing | :58:04. | :58:07. | |
and we had a funding situation with the police that enabled them to help | :58:08. | :58:11. | |
in a cut of crime of 31% since I became Prime Minister. | :58:12. | :58:17. | |
Thank you, Mr Speaker. John Wharton, a good driver, destroyed the lives | :58:18. | :58:25. | |
of Amy Baxter and Hayley Jones, with Miss Baxter being so severely | :58:26. | :58:28. | |
injured she is paralysed from the neck down and in hospital 16 months | :58:29. | :58:35. | |
later. He was sentenced to just a 3 month driving ban, a fine and a 20 | :58:36. | :58:40. | |
week tag. Weeks later he successfully applied to Bolton | :58:41. | :58:43. | |
Magistrates' Court for his type to be removed so he could go on holiday | :58:44. | :58:47. | |
to a stag party. Would my right honourable friend looked to issue | :58:48. | :58:51. | |
guidance to magistrates that a tag, when part of a sentence, should | :58:52. | :58:55. | |
never be removed to allow criminals to go on holiday? I think my | :58:56. | :58:58. | |
honourable friend makes a very powerful point and I will look at | :58:59. | :59:02. | |
this very carefully. Let me first of all express my sympathy to the | :59:03. | :59:08. | |
victim and her family, in what is, undoubtedly, a very distressing | :59:09. | :59:12. | |
case. It is always very difficult to comment on specific cases, I was not | :59:13. | :59:16. | |
sitting in the courthouse and here all the arguments that were made, | :59:17. | :59:20. | |
but the point he makes seems to be very sensible, a punishment as a | :59:21. | :59:26. | |
punishment and he's making a case. The Middle East is increasingly | :59:27. | :59:30. | |
resembling the central Europe of a century ago, minorities, linguistic, | :59:31. | :59:35. | |
religious or sexual, find themselves under more pressure than ever. I, my | :59:36. | :59:39. | |
constituents and the Scottish National Party understand the threat | :59:40. | :59:46. | |
posed to these groups by Daesh. How is the Prime Minister planning to | :59:47. | :59:48. | |
prosecute a bombing campaign that does not alter the demographic map | :59:49. | :59:58. | |
of the Middle East, preventing Ross Hill becoming the new Budapest? We | :59:59. | :00:03. | |
will set up the items tomorrow, but there is a clear and present danger | :00:04. | :00:10. | |
to the United Kingdom of Isil, based in Syria, planning attacks against | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
our country today. We don't live in a perfect world and we can't deliver | :00:14. | :00:18. | |
a perfect strategy, but we can deliver a clear, long-term strategy | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
that can work. He talks about the lessons we learned from the last | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
century. One of the lessons I say we should learn from the last century | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
is when your country is under threat, when you face aggression | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
against your country, you cannot endlessly sit around and dream about | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
a perfect world, you need to act in the world we are in. Will my right | :00:38. | :00:54. | |
honourable friend join me in congratulating all the staff at a | :00:55. | :01:00. | |
local birthing unit. They scored 100% on their friends and family | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
survey for satisfaction and care. The commitment of midwives is only | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
matched by the Conservatives' commitment to the NHS. With two | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
elections in a row, we have promised and delivered greater investment in | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
our National Health Service than Labour. | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
Can I say to my honourable friend, she is absolutely right to highlight | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
the friends and family test. It is a simple way of measuring whether our | :01:29. | :01:31. | |
hospitals are delivering great care. As well as good schemes to make sure | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
you would want your friends and family treated in a hospital, we | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
need to provide the resources for that hospital and that is what we | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
are doing with the spending figures announced today. Crucially on | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
childbirth, it is not often I stand here" the Daily Mirror, but it is | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
worth looking at what they are raising about the importance of a | :01:51. | :02:03. | |
seven-day NHS and making sure we have high standards across our NHS | :02:04. | :02:06. | |
every day of the week. As well as the extra money this government is | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
putting into the NHS, a seven-day NHS would also mean a much stronger | :02:09. | :02:10. | |
NHS. The big lottery fund supports local | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
projects in my constituency, including the Gate, a small children | :02:14. | :02:22. | |
was a playground and a women's project which plays a vital role in | :02:23. | :02:26. | |
supporting the vulnerable people this Parliament has left behind. | :02:27. | :02:31. | |
Would-be Prime Minister join me in congratulating these local projects | :02:32. | :02:33. | |
on their work, and reassure the House that this government will | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
protect the lottery funding earmarked for charity and community | :02:40. | :02:44. | |
projects? We will certainly protect the big | :02:45. | :02:49. | |
lottery fund. It does an excellent job. One of the things the United | :02:50. | :02:55. | |
Kingdom brings is a bigger National Lottery, a bigger pot which can | :02:56. | :02:57. | |
support Scottish charities and let me just make this point, following | :02:58. | :03:06. | |
what has happened to the oil price, if there was a Scottish November | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
Autumn Statement, it would be a statement that was about cuts, cuts, | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
cuts, taxes, taxes, taxes and no relief from the National Lottery. | :03:16. | :03:32. | |
Order. Order. Mr Brendan McNeill. Mr Angus Brendan McNeill. Calm | :03:33. | :03:37. | |
yourself. You may be a cheeky chappie, but you also an | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
exceptionally noisy one. Statement, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
Mr Speaker. This Spending Review delivers on the commitment we made | :03:49. | :03:57. | |
to the British people that we would put security first. To protect our | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
economic security by taking the difficult decisions to live within | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
our means, and bring down our debt. And to protect our national security | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
by defending our country's interests abroad and keeping our citizens safe | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
at home. Economic and national security provide the foundations for | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
everything we want to support. Opportunity for all. The aspirations | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
of families, the strong country we want to build. Five years ago, when | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
I presented our first Spending Review, our economy was in crisis, | :04:33. | :04:37. | |
and as their letter said, there was no money left. We were borrowing ?1 | :04:38. | :04:44. | |
in every forward is spent, and our job then was to rescue Britain. | :04:45. | :04:50. | |
Today, as we present this Spending Review, our job is to rebuild | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
Britain, build our finances, build our defences, build our society, so | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
that Britain becomes the most prosperous and secure of all the | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
major nations of the world. And so we leave to the next generation a | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
stronger country than the one we inherited. That is what this | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
government was elected to do, and today we set out the plan to deliver | :05:13. | :05:18. | |
on that commitment. Mr Speaker, we have committed to running a | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
surplus. Today, I can confirm that the four-year public spending plans | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
I have set out are forecast to deliver that surplus, so we don't | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
borrow forever, and are ready for whatever storms lie ahead. We | :05:32. | :05:38. | |
promise to bring our debts down. Today, the forecast I present shows | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
that after the longest period of rising debt in our modern history, | :05:43. | :05:47. | |
this year, our debt will fall and keep falling in every year that | :05:48. | :05:56. | |
follows. We promised to move Britain from being a high welfare low-wage | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
economy, to being a lower welfare are higher wage economy. Today I can | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
tell the House that the ?12 billion of welfare savings we committed to | :06:06. | :06:10. | |
at the election will be delivered in full, and delivered in a way that | :06:11. | :06:19. | |
helps families as we make the transition to our national Living | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
Wage. We promised that we would strengthen our national defences, | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
take the fight to our nation's enemies, and protect our country's | :06:26. | :06:30. | |
influence abroad. Today, this Spending Review delivers the | :06:31. | :06:33. | |
resources to make sure Britain, unique in the world, will meet its | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
twin obligations to spend 7% of its income on development, and 2% on the | :06:39. | :06:43. | |
defence of the realm. At this Spending Review not only ensures the | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
economic and national security of our country, it builds on it. It | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
sets out far-reaching changes to what the state does and how it does | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
it. It reforms our public services so we truly extend opportunity to | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
all, whether it is the way we educate our children, train our | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
workforce, rehabilitate our prisoners, provide homes for our | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
families, deliver care for our elderly and sick, or the way we hand | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
back power to local communities, this is a big Spending Review by a | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
government that does big things. It is a long-term economic plan for our | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
country's future. Mr Speaker, nothing is possible without the | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
foundations of a strong economy. Let be turned to the new forecast | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
provided by the independent Office for Budget Responsibility and let me | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
thank Robert choked and his team for their work. Since the summer budget, | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
new economic data has been published which confirms this, since | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
new economic data has been published economy in the G7 has grown faster | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
than Britain -- Robert Chote. We have grown three times faster than | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
Japan, twice as fast as France, faster than Germany and the same | :07:55. | :07:59. | |
rate as the United States. That growth has not been fuelled by an | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
irresponsible banking boom such as in the last decade. | :08:03. | :08:04. | |
irresponsible banking boom such as investment has grown twice as fast | :08:05. | :08:06. | |
as consumption. Exports faster than imports and the North | :08:07. | :08:14. | |
has grown faster than the south. We are determined that this will be an | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
economic recovery felt in all parts of our nation. That is already | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
happening. In which area of the country are we seeing the strongest | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
jobs growth? Not just in our capital city, the Midlands is creating jobs | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
three times faster than London and the south-east. In the past year we | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
have seen more feeble in work in the Northern Powerhouse than ever | :08:39. | :08:41. | |
before. And where do we have the highest employment rate of any pout | :08:42. | :08:46. | |
of our country? In the south-west of England. Our long-term economic plan | :08:47. | :08:53. | |
is working. But the OBR reminds us today of the huge challenges we | :08:54. | :08:57. | |
still face at home and abroad. Our debts are too high and our deficit | :08:58. | :09:02. | |
remains. Productivity is growing but we still lag behind most of our | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
competitors. I can tell the House that in today's forecast, the | :09:08. | :09:11. | |
expectations for world growth and world trade have been revised down | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
again. The weakness of the eurozone remains a persistent problem. There | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
are rising concerns about debts in emerging economies. These are yet | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
more reasons why we are determined to take the necessary steps to | :09:25. | :09:30. | |
protect our economic security. That brings me to the forecast for our | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
own GDP. Even with the weaker global picture, our economy this year is | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
predicted to grow by 2.4%. Growth is then revised up from the Budget | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
forecast in the next two years, to two years, and two x 5%. If then | :09:45. | :09:54. | |
starts to return to its long-term trend with growth of 2.4% in 2018 | :09:55. | :10:02. | |
and 2.3% in 2019 and 2020. That growth this more balanced than in | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
the past. Whole economy investment is set to grow faster in Britain | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
than in any other major advanced economy in the world, this year, the | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
next year, and the year after that. Mr Speaker, when I presented my | :10:16. | :10:22. | |
first Spending Review in 2010, I set this country on the path of living | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
within its means. Our opponents claimed the growth would be choked | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
off, and million jobs would be lost and inequality would rise. Every | :10:31. | :10:36. | |
single one of those projections has proved to be completely wrong -- | :10:37. | :10:44. | |
predictions. So too did the claim that Britain had to choose between | :10:45. | :10:47. | |
sound public finances and great public services. It is a false | :10:48. | :10:54. | |
choice. If you are bowled with your reforms, you can have both. That is | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
why when we have been reducing government spending, crime has | :10:59. | :11:01. | |
fallen, and million more children have been educated in good and | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
outstanding schools and public satisfaction with our local services | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
has risen. That is the exact opposite of what our critics | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
predicted. And yet now, the same people are making similar claims | :11:16. | :11:18. | |
about this Spending Review, as we seek to move Britain out of deficit | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
and into surplus. They are completely wrong again. The OBR has | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
seen our public expenditure plans, analysed our effect on our economy. | :11:28. | :11:32. | |
Forecast today is that the economy will grow robustly every year, | :11:33. | :11:36. | |
living standards will rise every year, and more than a million extra | :11:37. | :11:40. | |
jobs will be created over the next five years. That is because sound | :11:41. | :11:47. | |
public finances are not the enemy of sustained growth, they are its | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
precondition. Our economic plan puts the security of working people | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
first, so we are prepared for the inevitable storms that lie ahead. | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
That is why our charter for budget responsibility commits us to | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
reducing the debt to GDP ratio in each and every year of Parliament, | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
reaching a surplus in 2019-20, and keeping that surplus at normal | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
times. I can confirm that the OBR has certified that the economic plan | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
we present delivers on our commitment. Mr Speaker, that brings | :12:19. | :12:24. | |
me to the forecast for debt and deficit. As usual, the OBR has had | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
access to published and unpublished data and has made its own assessment | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
of our public finances. Since the summer budget, housing associations | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
in England have been reclassified by our independent Office for National | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
Statistics, and their borrowing and debts have been brought on to the | :12:43. | :12:46. | |
public balance sheet and that change will be backdated to 2008. This is a | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
statistical change and therefore, the OBR has recalculated its | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
previous budget forecast to include housing associations, so we can | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
compare like with like. On that new measure, debt was forecast in July | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
to be 83.6% of national income this year. Now today in the sort and | :13:11. | :13:15. | |
statement, we forecast debt to be lower at 82.5% -- now today in this | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
Autumn Statement. It then falls every year... Order, order. Mr | :13:21. | :13:30. | |
Lewis, get a grip of yourself, man! Calm, take up yoga, you will find it | :13:31. | :13:36. | |
beneficial, man. The Record shows that the Chancellor stays for a very | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
considerable period after his statement, to respond to questions, | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
and members will always find the chair a friend if they wish to | :13:46. | :13:50. | |
question the Minister. Yes, they will. Those who have questions to | :13:51. | :13:59. | |
ask will be heard. Meanwhile, the Chancellor will be heard. The | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr Speaker, I am looking forward to | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
it. Now, on that new measure, debt was forecast in July to be 83.6% of | :14:09. | :14:15. | |
national income. Now today in this Autumn Statement they forecast debt | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
to be lower at it then falls every year down to 81.7% next year, down | :14:21. | :14:32. | |
to 77.9%, then 77.3%, reaching 71.3% in 2020, 2021. In every single year, | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
the national debt as a share of national income is lower than when I | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
presented the Budget for months ago. And this improvement in the | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
nation's finances is due to two things. First, the OBR expects tax | :14:50. | :14:56. | |
receipts to be stronger, a sign that our economy is healthier than | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
thought. Second, debt interest payments are expected to be lower, | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
reflecting the further fall in the rates we paid to our creditors. | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
Combine the effects of better tax receipts and lower debt interest, | :15:11. | :15:16. | |
overall the OBR calculates, aiming to 27 7p improvement in our public | :15:17. | :15:20. | |
finances over the forecast period compared to where we were at the | :15:21. | :15:28. | |
Budget. This improvement in the nation's finances allows me to do | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
the following. First, we will borrow ?8 billion less than we forecast, | :15:34. | :15:36. | |
making faster progress towards eliminating the deficit and paying | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
down the debt, fixing the roof when the sun is shining. Second, we will | :15:41. | :15:53. | |
spend ?12 billion more on capital investments, making faster progress | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
to building the infrastructure our country needs. Third, the improved | :15:58. | :16:03. | |
public finances allow us to reach the same goal of a surplus, while | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
cutting less in the early years. We can smooth the path to the same | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
destination. That means we can help on tax credits. I have been asked to | :16:14. | :16:21. | |
to help in the transition as we move to the higher wages, lower welfare | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
society that the country wants to see. I have heard representations | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
that these changes to tax credits should be phased in. I have listened | :16:30. | :16:33. | |
to the concerns, I hear and understand them, and because I have | :16:34. | :16:37. | |
been able to announce today an improvement in the public finances, | :16:38. | :16:39. | |
the simple thing to do is not to phase them in, but to avoid them | :16:40. | :16:47. | |
altogether. Tax credits are being phased out anyway as we introduce | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
Universal Credit. What that means is that the tax credit tabor rate and | :16:52. | :16:59. | |
threshold remain unchanged, the disregard will be ?2500. I propose | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
no further changes to the Universal Credit taper or the work allowances, | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
beyond those passed through Parliament last week. The minimum | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
income floor in Universal Credit will rise with the National Living | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
Wage. I set a lower welfare cap in the Budget. The House should know | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
that helping with the transition obviously means we will not be | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
within that lower welfare cap in the first years, but the House should | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
also know that, thanks to the welfare reforms, we meet the cap in | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
the later part of this Parliament, indeed, on the figures published | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
today, we still achieve indeed, on the figures published | :17:38. | :17:40. | |
billion per year of welfare savings we promised. Now, that is because of | :17:41. | :17:48. | |
the permanent savings we have already made, and the further | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
long-term reforms we announced today. The rate of housing benefit | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
in the social sector will be capped at the relevant local housing | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
allowance, in other words, the same rate paid to those in the private | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
rented sector who receive the same benefit. That will apply to new | :18:04. | :18:08. | |
tenants is only. It will also stop paying housing benefit and pension | :18:09. | :18:13. | |
credit payments for people that have left the country more than a month. | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
The welfare system should be fair to those that need it, and fair to | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
those who pay for it as well. Improved public finances our | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
continued commitment to form mean we continue to be on target for a | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
surplus. The House will want to know the level of that surplus. Let me | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
give the OBR forecast for deficit and borrowing. In 2010, | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
give the OBR forecast for deficit we inherited was estimated to be | :18:37. | :18:38. | |
11.1% of we inherited was estimated to be | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
it is set to be almost a third of that, 3.9%. Next year, it falls to | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
less than a quarter of what we inherited, 2.5%. | :18:49. | :18:52. | |
less than a quarter of what we down again to | :18:53. | :18:55. | |
less than a quarter of what we to just 0.2% a year after that, | :18:56. | :18:56. | |
before moving to just 0.2% a year after that, | :18:57. | :19:02. | |
of national income in 1919-20, rising to 0.6% the following year. | :19:03. | :19:06. | |
Let me turn to the cash borrowing figures. With house borrowing | :19:07. | :19:10. | |
figures included, the OBR predicted at the time of the Budget that | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
Britain would borrow ?74.1 billion this year. They now forecast we will | :19:16. | :19:19. | |
borrow less than that, at 73.5 billion. Borrowing them falls to | :19:20. | :19:24. | |
49.9 billion next year. It continues to fall, and falls to lower than was | :19:25. | :19:28. | |
forecast in the Budget in every single year after that, to 24.8 | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
billion next year. It continues to fall, and falls to lower than was | :19:33. | :19:34. | |
forecast in the Budget in every single year after that, to 24 | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
2018-19, in 2019-20, we reach a surplus of ?10.1 billion. That is | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
higher than was forecast in the Budget. Britain out of the red and | :19:48. | :19:55. | |
into the black. Surplus rises to 40.7 billion a year after that. So, | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
Mr Speaker, the deficit falls every year. The debt share is lower in | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
every year than previously forecast. We are borrowing ?8 billion less | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
than we expected overall and we reach a bigger surplus. We have | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
achieved this, well, the same time, helping working families as we move | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
to a higher wage, lower welfare economy, and we have the security of | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
knowing our country is paying its way in the world. Mr Speaker, that | :20:25. | :20:29. | |
brings me to our plans for public expenditure and taxation. I want to | :20:30. | :20:34. | |
thank my right honourable friend the Chief Secretary, other ministerial | :20:35. | :20:36. | |
colleagues at the Treasury and the brilliant officials that have | :20:37. | :20:39. | |
assisted us for the long hours and hard work they have put into | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
developing these plans. We said ?5 billion would come from the measures | :20:45. | :20:48. | |
on tax avoidance, evasion and imbalances. Those measures were | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
announced in the Budget. Together, we go further today with new | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
penalties for the general anti-abuse rule that the Government | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
introduced, action on the Government introduced, action undisguised | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
numeration schemes and Stamp Duty avoidance, and we will stop abuse of | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
the intangible fixed assets regime and capital allowances. We also | :21:08. | :21:10. | |
exclude energy generation from the venture capital schemes, to ensure | :21:11. | :21:15. | |
they remain well targeted at high risk companies. HMRC is making | :21:16. | :21:19. | |
efficiencies of 18% in its own Budget. In the digital age, we do | :21:20. | :21:25. | |
not need taxpayers to pay for paper processing or 170 separate tax | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
offices around the country. Instead, we are reinvesting some of those | :21:30. | :21:31. | |
savings with an extra ?800 million in the fight against tax evasion, | :21:32. | :21:38. | |
with a return of almost ten times the additional tax collected. We are | :21:39. | :21:42. | |
going to build one of the most digitally advanced tax | :21:43. | :21:44. | |
administrations in the wilderness Parliament so that every individual | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
and every small business will have their own digital tax account by the | :21:49. | :21:51. | |
end of the decade to manage their tax online. From 2019, once the | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
accounts are up and running, we require Apple gains tax to be paid | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
within 30 days of completion of any disposal of residential property. | :22:04. | :22:05. | |
Together, these form part of the digital revolution that we're | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
bringing to Whitehall that the Spending Review. The court Cabinet | :22:10. | :22:17. | |
Office Budget will be cut by 26%, matching a 24% cut in the Budget of | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
the Treasury. The cost of all Whitehall administrations will be | :22:23. | :22:27. | |
cut by ?1.9 billion. These form part of the ?12 billion of savings to | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
government departments I am announcing today. In 2010, | :22:31. | :22:36. | |
Government spending took up 45% of national income. This was a figure | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
we could not sustain because it was neither practical sensible to raise | :22:41. | :22:43. | |
taxes high enough to pay for that. We ended up with a massive | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
structural deficit. Today, the state accounts for just under 40% of | :22:48. | :22:50. | |
national income and it is forecast to reach 36.5% by the end of the | :22:51. | :22:55. | |
Spending Review. The structural spending this represents is at a | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
level that a competitive, modern, developed economy can sustain and it | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
is a level that the British people are prepared to pay their taxes for. | :23:05. | :23:09. | |
It is precisely because this Government believes in decent public | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
services and a properly funded welfare state that we are insistent | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
that they are sustainable and affordable. To simply argue all the | :23:18. | :23:21. | |
time that public spending must always go up, never be cut, is | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
irresponsible and lets down the people that rely on public services | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
most. To fund the things we want the Government to provide in the modern | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
world, we have to be prepared to provide the resources. Mr Speaker, I | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
am setting the limits for total managed expenditure as follows. This | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
year, public spending will be ?756 billion. 773 billion next year, 780 | :23:44. | :23:52. | |
billion a year after, 801 billion, before reaching 821,000,000,020 | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
19-20, the year we are forecast to eliminate the deficit and a surplus. | :23:58. | :24:03. | |
After this, the focus of public spending rises broadly in line with | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
the growth of the economy and will be at 857 in 2020-21. The figures | :24:07. | :24:13. | |
from the OBR show over the next five years, welfare spending falls as a | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
percentage of national income, while departmental capital income is | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
maintained and is higher at the end of the period. That is the right | :24:24. | :24:28. | |
switch for a country that is serious about investing in long-term | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
economic success. People will want to know what the levels of public | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
spending mean in practice, and the scale of the cuts we are asking | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
government departments to undertake. In this Spending Review, the | :24:39. | :24:41. | |
day-to-day spending of Governor departments is set to fall by an | :24:42. | :24:45. | |
average of 0.8% per year in real terms. That compares to an average | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
fall of 2% over the last five years. So, the savings we need are | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
considerably smaller. This reflects the improvement in the public | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
finances and the progress we have already made. Indeed, the overall | :24:58. | :25:02. | |
rate of annual cuts I set out in today's Spending Review are less | :25:03. | :25:04. | |
than half of those delivered over the last five years. So, Britain is | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
spending a lower proportion of money on welfare and a higher proportion | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
on the structure. The Budget balanced, with cuts half what they | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
were in the last Parliament, making the savings we need, no less and no | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
more, and providing economic security so the working people of a | :25:22. | :25:27. | |
country with a surplus lives within its means. This does not mean that | :25:28. | :25:34. | |
the decisions required to deliver the savings are easy. Nor should we | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
lose sight of the the Spending Review commits ?4 trillion over the | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
next five years. It is a huge amendment of the hard earned cash of | :25:43. | :25:45. | |
British tax payers and all those that dedicate their lives to public | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
service will want to make sure it is well spent. Our approach is not | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
simply retrenchment, it is to reform and rebuild. These reforms will | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
support our objectives for the country. First, to develop a modern, | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
integrated health and social care system that supports people at every | :26:04. | :26:06. | |
stage in their lives. Second, to spread economic power and wealth | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
through a devolution revolution and invest in long-term infrastructure. | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
Third, to extend opportunity by tackling the big social failures | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
that for too long have helped people back in our country. Fourth, to | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
reinforce national security with the resources to protect us at home and | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
project our values abroad. The resources allocated by this Spending | :26:28. | :26:30. | |
Review are driven by these four goals. The first priority of this | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
government is the first priority of the British people, the National | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
Health Service. The Health Service was cut by the Labour administration | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
in Wales, but we, the Conservatives, have been increasing health spending | :26:48. | :26:52. | |
in England. In this Spending Review, we do so again. We will work with | :26:53. | :26:55. | |
our health professionals to deliver the very best value for that money. | :26:56. | :27:00. | |
That means ?22 billion of efficiency savings across the service, it means | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
a 25% cut in the Whitehall Budget for the Department of Health, it | :27:05. | :27:11. | |
means modernising the way we fund students of health care. Today, | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
there is a cap on student nurses. Over half of all applicants are | :27:16. | :27:18. | |
turned away and it leaves hospital is relying on agencies and overseas | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
staff. We will replace direct funding with loans for new students | :27:23. | :27:27. | |
so we can abolish this self-defeating cap and creativity | :27:28. | :27:30. | |
10,000 new training places in this Parliament. Alongside these reforms, | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
we will give the NHS the money it needs. We made a commitment to a ?10 | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
billion real increase in the health service Budget. We fully deliver | :27:41. | :27:45. | |
that today with the first ?6 billion delivered up front, next year. It | :27:46. | :27:52. | |
fully funds the five-year plan that the NHS put forward as its plan for | :27:53. | :27:55. | |
its future, as the chief executive of NHS England, Simon Stephen, said, | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
the NHS has been heard and actively supported. Let me explain what that | :28:02. | :28:08. | |
means in cash. The NHS Budget will rise from ?101 billion today to ?120 | :28:09. | :28:18. | |
billion by 2020-21. This is a half ?1 trillion commitment to the NHS | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
over this Parliament, the largest investment in the health service | :28:23. | :28:29. | |
since its creation. So, we have a clear plan for improving the NHS. We | :28:30. | :28:34. | |
fully funded it and, in return, patients will see more than ?5 | :28:35. | :28:41. | |
billion of health research in everything from genome is to | :28:42. | :28:43. | |
antimicrobial resistance, to a new dimension Institute and a new | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
world-class public health facility in Harlow, and more. 800,000 more | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
elective hospital admissions. 5 million more outpatient | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
appointments. 2 million more diagnostic tests. New hospitals | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
funded in Cambridge, Sandwell and Brighton. Cancer testing within four | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
weeks and a brilliant NHS available seven days a week. Mr Speaker, there | :29:07. | :29:16. | |
is one part of our NHS that has been neglected too long, and that is | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
mental health. I want to thank the all-party group, led by my right | :29:20. | :29:22. | |
honourable friend for Sutton Coldfield, the right honourable | :29:23. | :29:25. | |
member for North Norfolk and Alistair Campbell, for their work in | :29:26. | :29:29. | |
this vital area. In the last Parliament we made a start by laying | :29:30. | :29:32. | |
the foundations for equality of treatment with the first-ever | :29:33. | :29:35. | |
waiting time standards for mental health. Today we are building on | :29:36. | :29:45. | |
that with ?600 million of additional funding, meaning that by 2020 | :29:46. | :29:47. | |
significantly more people will have access to talking therapies, | :29:48. | :29:49. | |
perinatal mental health services and crisis care. It is all possible | :29:50. | :29:52. | |
because we made a promise to the British people to give our NHS the | :29:53. | :29:56. | |
funding it needs. In this Spending Review, we have delivered. Mr | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
Speaker, the Health Service cannot function effectively without good | :30:03. | :30:07. | |
social care. Many local authorities are not going to be able to meet the | :30:08. | :30:11. | |
growing social care needs unless they have new sources of funding. | :30:12. | :30:16. | |
That, in the end, comes from the taxpayer. In future, those local | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
authorities who are responsible for social care will be able to levy a | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
new social care precept of up to 2% of council tax. The money raised | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
will have to be spent exclusively on adult social care and if all | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
authorities make full use of it it will bring almost ?2 billion more | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
into the care system. It is part of a major reform we are undertaking to | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
integrate health and social care by the end of this decade, | :30:44. | :30:45. | |
integrate health and social care by achieve that I am today | :30:46. | :30:50. | |
integrate health and social care by the Better Care Fund to support that | :30:51. | :30:53. | |
integration, with local authorities able to access an extra ?1.5 billion | :30:54. | :30:57. | |
by 2019-20. The steps taken able to access an extra ?1.5 billion | :30:58. | :31:14. | |
will have risen in real terms. A civilised and prosperous society | :31:15. | :31:18. | |
like ours should support its vulnerable citizens and that | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
includes a decent income in retirement. Many people have already | :31:22. | :31:27. | |
been auto enrolled into a pension thanks to our reforms in the last | :31:28. | :31:36. | |
Parliament. A booster will align contributions with the tax years. | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
The best way to reform pension benefits is to raise the pension age | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
as we are set to do in the next parliament. That allows us to | :31:47. | :31:49. | |
maintain a triple lock on the value of the state pension, so never again | :31:50. | :31:56. | |
do Britain's pensioners received a derisory increase of 75p. As a | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
result of our commitment to those who have worked hard all their lives | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
and contributed to our six IT, I can confirm that next year the basic | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
state pension will rise to ?119 30 a week. That is the biggest increase | :32:12. | :32:20. | |
to the basic state pension in 15 years. Taking all of our increases | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
together, over the next five years pensioners will be 1000 ?100 better | :32:25. | :32:31. | |
off year than when we came to office. We are also undertaking the | :32:32. | :32:34. | |
biggest change in the state pension for 40 years, to make it simpler and | :32:35. | :32:48. | |
fairer, to introduce a new pension. It will be higher than the current | :32:49. | :32:58. | |
meantime -- means tested benefits and an example of a progressive | :32:59. | :33:03. | |
government in action. Instead of cutting the savings credit, it will | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
be frozen at its current level where income is unchanged. The first | :33:08. | :33:12. | |
objective of this Spending Review is to give unprecedented support to | :33:13. | :33:15. | |
health, social care and to our pensioners. The second is to spread | :33:16. | :33:20. | |
economic power and wealth across our nation. In recent weeks, great | :33:21. | :33:24. | |
metropolitan areas such as Sheffield, Liverpool, the Tees | :33:25. | :33:31. | |
Valley and the North Midlands has joined Greater Manchester in | :33:32. | :33:38. | |
creating mayors. It's the most determined effort to change the | :33:39. | :33:42. | |
geographical imbalance which has bedevilled the British economy over | :33:43. | :33:48. | |
half a century. We are setting aside ?12 billion for the local growth | :33:49. | :33:53. | |
fund and I am announcing the creation of 26 new or extended | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
enterprise zones including 15 zones in towns and rural areas from | :33:58. | :34:03. | |
Carlisle to Dorset and Ipswich. If we really want to shift power in our | :34:04. | :34:07. | |
country, we have to give all local councils the tools to drive business | :34:08. | :34:11. | |
growth in their area and the rewards that come when you do so. I can | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
confirm today, that as we set out last month, we will abolish the | :34:16. | :34:20. | |
uniform business rate. By the end of the parliament, local government | :34:21. | :34:22. | |
will keep all of the revenues from business rates, will give councils | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
the power to cut rates and make their area more attractive to | :34:27. | :34:48. | |
business and elected mayors will be able to raise rates provided they | :34:49. | :34:50. | |
are used to fund specific infrastructure projects, supported | :34:51. | :34:52. | |
by the local business community. Because the amount we raise in | :34:53. | :34:55. | |
business rates is in total much greater than the rates we give to | :34:56. | :34:57. | |
councils through the local government grants, we will phase | :34:58. | :34:59. | |
that grant out entirely over this Parliament. We will also devolve | :35:00. | :35:01. | |
additional responsibilities. The temporary management fee will no | :35:02. | :35:03. | |
longer be paid through the benefit system. Instead, councils will | :35:04. | :35:05. | |
receive ?10 billion a year up front to provide more help for homeless | :35:06. | :35:07. | |
people, alongside savings in the public health grant, we will consult | :35:08. | :35:11. | |
on transferring new powers and the responsibility for its funding and | :35:12. | :35:15. | |
elements of the administration of housing benefit. Local government is | :35:16. | :35:24. | |
sitting on property worth a quarter of a quarter of ?1 trillion. We will | :35:25. | :35:27. | |
let councils spend 100% of the receipts of the assets they sell to | :35:28. | :35:29. | |
improve local services. Councils increase their reserves by nearly | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
?10 billion over the last Parliament. We will encourage them | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
to draw on their reserves as they undertake reforms. Mr Speaker, this | :35:39. | :35:43. | |
amounts to a big package of new powers, but also new | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
responsibilities for local councils. It is a revolution in the way we | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
govern this country, and if you take into account both the falling grant | :35:52. | :35:55. | |
and rising counselling comes, it means by the end of this Parliament, | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
local government will be spending the same in cash terms as it does | :36:00. | :36:06. | |
today. Mr Speaker, the devolved administrations of the United | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
Kingdom will also have available to them unprecedented new powers to | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
drive their economies. The conclusion last week of the | :36:14. | :36:17. | |
political talks in Northern Ireland means additional spending power for | :36:18. | :36:23. | |
the executive to ensure the full implementation of the Stormont House | :36:24. | :36:28. | |
agreement. But opens the door to the devolution of corporation tax which | :36:29. | :36:31. | |
the parties confirmed have said they wished to set at 12.5%. That is huge | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
prize for business in Northern Ireland and the onus is on the | :36:37. | :36:39. | |
Northern Ireland Executive to play their part and deliver sustainable | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
budget so we can move forward on that. Northern Ireland's block grant | :36:45. | :36:50. | |
will be over ?11 billion and funding for new capital in will rise over | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
five years, ensuring Northern Ireland can invest in its long-term | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
future. For years, Wales has asked for a slender in -- funding floor to | :37:00. | :37:08. | |
protect spending. Now this Conservative government is answering | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
that call and providing that historic funding guarantee for | :37:13. | :37:15. | |
Wales. I can announce today we will introduce the new funding floor and | :37:16. | :37:21. | |
set it for this Parliament at the Welsh Secretary and I have also | :37:22. | :37:25. | |
confirmed that we will legislate so the devolution on income tax can | :37:26. | :37:29. | |
take place without a referendum. We will also help fund a new Cardiff | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
City deal. The Welsh block grant will reach ?15 million by 2019-20 | :37:35. | :37:41. | |
while the capital spending will rise over ?900 million over five years. | :37:42. | :37:44. | |
As Lord Smith confirmed, the Scotland Bill meets the vow made by | :37:45. | :37:57. | |
the parties... Mr Speaker, it must be underpinned by a fiscal framework | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
that is fair to all taxpayers and we are ready now to reach an | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
agreement. The ball is in the Court of the Scottish government. Let's | :38:07. | :38:10. | |
have a deal that is fair to Scotland, said the UK and is built | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
to last. We are and entering the city deal for Glasgow and | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
negotiating deals with Aberdeen and Inverness as well. If Scotland had | :38:19. | :38:23. | |
voted for independence, they would have had their own Spending Review | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
this autumn. With world oil prices falling, and revenues from the North | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
Sea forecast by the OBR today to be down 94%, we would have seen | :38:34. | :38:40. | |
catastrophic cuts in Scottish public services. Thankfully, Scotland | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
remains a strong part of a stronger United Kingdom. So the Scottish | :38:46. | :38:57. | |
block grant will be over ?30 million and 2019-20, while capital spending | :38:58. | :39:03. | |
available will rise by ?1.9 billion through to 2021. UK government | :39:04. | :39:08. | |
giving Scotland the resources to invest in its long-term future. For | :39:09. | :39:14. | |
the UK government, the funding of the Scotland, Wales and Northern | :39:15. | :39:18. | |
Ireland offices, we'll all be protected in real terms. Mr Speaker, | :39:19. | :39:22. | |
we are devolving power across our country and will also spending on | :39:23. | :39:25. | |
economic infrastructure that connects our nation. That is | :39:26. | :39:29. | |
something Britain has not done enough for a generation. Now by | :39:30. | :39:32. | |
making the difficult decisions to save on day-to-day costs, we can | :39:33. | :39:37. | |
invest in new roads, roadways, signs and flood defences that Britain | :39:38. | :39:45. | |
needs. We made a start in the last and in the last year, Britain topped | :39:46. | :39:49. | |
a league table of the best places in the world to invest in | :39:50. | :39:54. | |
infrastructure. The Department for transport's operational budget will | :39:55. | :39:59. | |
fall by 37%. Transport capital spending will increase by 50% to a | :40:00. | :40:06. | |
total of ?61 billion, the biggest increase for a generation. That | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
funds the largest road investment programme since the 1970s, for we | :40:12. | :40:21. | |
are the builders. It means the construction of High Speed Two, to | :40:22. | :40:26. | |
link the Northern Powerhouse to the south can begin. The electrification | :40:27. | :40:29. | |
of lines like the trans-Pennine, the Midland mainline and the great | :40:30. | :40:34. | |
Western can go ahead. We will fund our new transport for the North to | :40:35. | :40:40. | |
get it up and running. London will get an ?11 billion investment in its | :40:41. | :40:44. | |
transport infrastructure, and having met with my honourable member for | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
Folkestone and other Kent MPs, I will relieve the roads in | :40:49. | :40:52. | |
Folkestone and other Kent MPs, I operation Stack with the new quarter | :40:53. | :40:55. | |
of the billion pound investment in new facilities there. We are making | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
a new ?300 million commitment to cycling that we promised, and we | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
will be spending over ?5 million on roads maintenance in this | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
Parliament. Thanks to the incessant lobbying from my Honourable friend | :41:08. | :41:14. | |
from Northampton North, Britain now has a permanent pothole fund. | :41:15. | :41:24. | |
Mr Speaker, we are investigating in the transport we need and the flood | :41:25. | :41:33. | |
defences as well. DEFRA's day-to-day budget. 15% in this Spending Review, | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
but we are committing ?2 billion to protect 300,000 homes from flooding. | :41:40. | :41:43. | |
Our commitment to farming and the countryside is reflected in the | :41:44. | :41:47. | |
protection of funding for our national parks and our forests. We | :41:48. | :41:49. | |
will not national parks and our forests. We | :41:50. | :41:55. | |
again! I can tell the House that in recognition of the higher cost they | :41:56. | :42:02. | |
face, we will continue to provide ?50 of the water bills of Southwest | :42:03. | :42:08. | |
water customers for the rest of this Parliament, a Conservative promise | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
made to the south-west and a promise kept. Mr Speaker, investing in the | :42:15. | :42:18. | |
long-term economic infrastructure of this country is a goal of our | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
spending reviewed and there is no more important infrastructure than | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
energy. We are doubling our spending on energy research with a commitment | :42:27. | :42:29. | |
to Smallman modular nuclear reactors. Also supporting the shale | :42:30. | :42:35. | |
gas industry to assure that communities benefit from a shell | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
wealth fund which could be worth up to ?1 billion. Support for low | :42:40. | :42:42. | |
carbon energy and renewables will more than double. The sale of | :42:43. | :42:46. | |
ultralow emission vehicles will continue to be supported. In light | :42:47. | :42:56. | |
of the slower than expected and the introduction of emissions testing, | :42:57. | :43:05. | |
we will remove the testing of diesel vehicles until 2021. We are | :43:06. | :43:07. | |
increasing our support for vehicles until 2021. We are | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
finance. Day-to-day resource urge it will fall I20 2%. We will reform the | :43:13. | :43:18. | |
renewable heat incentive to will fall I20 2%. We will reform the | :43:19. | :43:36. | |
our energy industries such as steel to keep them here. We will introduce | :43:37. | :43:43. | |
a cheaper energy efficiency scheme. This will save ?30 a year from the | :43:44. | :43:48. | |
energy bills of 24 million households. This government believes | :43:49. | :43:53. | |
going green should not cost the earth. We are putting other builders | :43:54. | :44:00. | |
of. We will bring reforms to the compensation culture around minor | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
motor accident injuries. We expect the industry to pass on the savings | :44:06. | :44:10. | |
are most see an average saving of 40 to ?50 every year of their insurance | :44:11. | :44:15. | |
bills. Mr Speaker, this is a government that backs all our | :44:16. | :44:19. | |
businesses, large and small, and we on this side of | :44:20. | :44:23. | |
businesses, large and small, and we that there is no growth, no jobs | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
without a vibrant private sector and successful entrepreneurs. This | :44:29. | :44:31. | |
Spending Review delivers what business needs. Business needs | :44:32. | :44:36. | |
competitive taxes. I have already announced a reduction in our | :44:37. | :44:44. | |
corporation tax rate to 18%. Our overall view of business rates will | :44:45. | :44:46. | |
report in the Budget but I am helping 600,000 of our smallest is | :44:47. | :44:50. | |
Mrs by extending our rate relief scheme for another year. Businesses | :44:51. | :44:56. | |
also need an active and sustained industrial strategy and that | :44:57. | :44:59. | |
strategy launched in the last Parliament continues in this one. We | :45:00. | :45:05. | |
commit to the same level of support for our aerospace and automotive | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
industries, not just for the next five years, but for the next decade. | :45:09. | :45:13. | |
Spending on our new catapult centres will increase. We will support the | :45:14. | :45:18. | |
cash support we give through Innovate UK, something we can afford | :45:19. | :45:24. | |
to do by offering ?165 million of new loans to companies, instead of | :45:25. | :45:27. | |
grants, as France has successfully done for many years. It is one of | :45:28. | :45:35. | |
the figures that has helped us reduce the Budget by 17%. In the | :45:36. | :45:39. | |
modern world, one of the best ways you can back business is by backing | :45:40. | :45:43. | |
science. That is why in the last Parliament hide protected the | :45:44. | :45:48. | |
resource Project for science in cash terms. In this Parliament I am | :45:49. | :45:52. | |
protecting it in real terms, so it rises to ?4.7 billion. That is ?500 | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
billion more by the end of the decade, alongside the capital | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
Budget. We are funding the new Institute in Manchester and the new | :46:03. | :46:07. | |
centres in Shropshire, York, Bedfordshire and Edinburgh and we | :46:08. | :46:10. | |
are going to commit ?75 billion to a transformation of the famous | :46:11. | :46:16. | |
Cavendish laboratories in Cambridge, where our knowledge of the universe | :46:17. | :46:19. | |
was expanded, to make sure we get the most from our investment in | :46:20. | :46:25. | |
science. I asked another Nobel laureate, Paul nurse, to conduct a | :46:26. | :46:27. | |
review of the research councils. I want to thank him for the excellent | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
report he has published and we will complement his recommendations. | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
Britain is not just brilliant at science, it is brilliant at culture | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
as well. One of the best investments we can make as a nation is in our | :46:39. | :46:44. | |
extraordinary arts, museums, heritage and sport. ?100 million per | :46:45. | :46:51. | |
year in grants and a quarter of a billion pounds into our economy. The | :46:52. | :46:59. | |
core administration Budget will fall by 20%, but I am increasing the cash | :47:00. | :47:03. | |
that will go to the Arts Council, our national museums and galleries. | :47:04. | :47:09. | |
We will keep free museum entry and look at a new tax credit to support | :47:10. | :47:14. | |
that exhibitions. I will help UK Sport, which has been living on | :47:15. | :47:18. | |
diminishing reserves, with a 29% increase in their Budget, so we go | :47:19. | :47:28. | |
for gold in Rio and Tokyo. Mr Speaker, the right honourable | :47:29. | :47:31. | |
member, the former Home Secretary, the Member for whole west and | :47:32. | :47:37. | |
hassle, has personally asked me to support his city's year of culture. | :47:38. | :47:42. | |
I'm happy to do so with a grunt. His city has contributed to the arts, | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
while his front bench contributes to comedy. The money for Hull is part | :47:48. | :48:00. | |
of a package for the Northern Powerhouse which includes funding | :48:01. | :48:06. | |
the iconic new Factory Manchester. In Scotland we will support the | :48:07. | :48:09. | |
world famous Burrell collection, in London we will help the British | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
Museum, science Museum and the Victoria and Albert move their | :48:15. | :48:20. | |
collections into display. We are increasing the funding for the BBC | :48:21. | :48:24. | |
World Service so British values of freedom and free expression I heard | :48:25. | :48:30. | |
around the world. All of this can be achieved without raiding, as the | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
Prime Minister said, the big lottery fund, some had feared. It will | :48:37. | :48:38. | |
continue to support the work of hundreds of small charities across | :48:39. | :48:43. | |
Britain. So will the ?20 million per year of new support for social | :48:44. | :48:47. | |
impact bonds. There are many great charities that work to support | :48:48. | :48:51. | |
vulnerable women. A point that was raised in Prime Minister's | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
Questions, indeed. The Member for Colchester has proposed a brilliant | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
way to give them more help. 300,000 people have signed a petition | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
arguing that no VAT should be charged on sanitary products. We | :49:04. | :49:08. | |
already charge the lowest 5% rate allowable under European law and we | :49:09. | :49:11. | |
are committed to cutting the EU to change its rules. Until that | :49:12. | :49:15. | |
happens, I am going to use the ?15 million per year raised to fund | :49:16. | :49:21. | |
women's health charities and support charities. The first ?5 million, Mr | :49:22. | :49:34. | |
Speaker... The first ?5 million will be distributed to the Eve Appeal, | :49:35. | :49:47. | |
Safe Lives, and I invite bids from other worthy causes. We will support | :49:48. | :49:53. | |
a host of military charities, from guide dogs for military veterans, to | :49:54. | :50:04. | |
Karanka Combat. From the museums of Portsmouth, to the National Museum, | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
to the aerodrome and the former HQ of fighter command at Bentley. In | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
the Budget, I funded one of these bunkers, more have emerged since | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
then. At the suggestion of my right honourable friend for Mid Sussex, we | :50:19. | :50:21. | |
will support the fellowships awarded in the name of his grandfather by | :50:22. | :50:24. | |
funding the Winston Churchill Memorial trust. We will fund the | :50:25. | :50:34. | |
Commonwealth War Graves Commission, so it can tend to the graves of | :50:35. | :50:38. | |
those that died fighting for our country, and we will contribute to a | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
memorial for the victims of terrorism who died on the bus at | :50:43. | :50:45. | |
Tavistock Square ten years ago. It is a reminder that we have always | :50:46. | :50:49. | |
faced threats to our way of life and we have never allowed them to defeat | :50:50. | :50:54. | |
us. We deliver security so we can spread opportunity. That is the | :50:55. | :50:58. | |
third objective that drives the Spending Review. We showed in the | :50:59. | :51:02. | |
last five years that sound public finances and bold public service | :51:03. | :51:07. | |
reform can help the most disadvantaged in our society. That | :51:08. | :51:10. | |
is why inequality is down, child poverty is down, the gender pay gap | :51:11. | :51:18. | |
is at a record low and the richest fifth now pay more in taxes than the | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
rest of the country put together. The other side talks of social | :51:24. | :51:29. | |
justice. This side delivers it. We are all in this together. In the | :51:30. | :51:37. | |
next five years, we will be even bolder in social reform. It starts | :51:38. | :51:43. | |
with education. That is the door to opportunity in our society. This | :51:44. | :51:50. | |
permits us to reform and the weight is provided from childcare to | :51:51. | :51:52. | |
college. We start with the largest ever investment in free childcare so | :51:53. | :51:55. | |
working families get the help they need. From 2017 we will fund 30 | :51:56. | :51:59. | |
hours of free childcare for working families with three and four year | :52:00. | :52:04. | |
olds. We will support ?10,000 of childcare costs tax free. To make it | :52:05. | :52:08. | |
affordable, the extra support will only be available to parents working | :52:09. | :52:11. | |
more than 16 hours a week and with incomes of less than ?100,000. We | :52:12. | :52:22. | |
will maintain the free places to parents, we will increase the | :52:23. | :52:26. | |
funding to the sector by ?300 million. Taken together, it is a ?6 | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
billion childcare commitment to the working families of Britain. Next, | :52:30. | :52:35. | |
schools. We build our far-reaching reforms of the last Parliament that | :52:36. | :52:38. | |
have seen school standards rise, even as exams become more rigorous. | :52:39. | :52:43. | |
We will maintain funding for free infant school meals, protect rates | :52:44. | :52:45. | |
for the Pupil Premium and increase the cash in the dedicated school | :52:46. | :52:51. | |
grant. We will maintain the current national base rate of funding for | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
our 16-19 year-old students for the whole Parliament. We are going to | :52:56. | :53:00. | |
open 500 new free schools and university technical colleges, | :53:01. | :53:04. | |
invest ?23 billion in school building and 600,000 new school | :53:05. | :53:08. | |
places. To help all of our children make the transition to adulthood and | :53:09. | :53:12. | |
learn not just about their rights but their responsibilities to, we | :53:13. | :53:15. | |
will expand the national citizen service. Today, 80,000 students go | :53:16. | :53:30. | |
on National Citizen Service. Five years ago, 200 schools were | :53:31. | :53:37. | |
academies. Today, 5000 schools are. Our goal is to complete this school | :53:38. | :53:41. | |
revolution and help every secondary school become an academy. We will | :53:42. | :53:44. | |
announce that we will allow sixth form colleges to become academies as | :53:45. | :53:48. | |
well, so they no longer have to pay VAT. We will make local authorities | :53:49. | :53:52. | |
running schools a thing of the past and this will help us save around | :53:53. | :53:56. | |
?600 million from the education services ground. Mr Speaker, I can | :53:57. | :54:00. | |
tell the House that, as a result of the Spending Review, not only is the | :54:01. | :54:04. | |
schools Budget protected in real terms, but the total financial | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
support for education, including childcare and our extended further | :54:10. | :54:13. | |
and higher education loans will increase by ?10 billion. That is a | :54:14. | :54:19. | |
real terms increase for education as well. We are going to phase out the | :54:20. | :54:24. | |
arbitrary and unfair school funding system that has systematically | :54:25. | :54:30. | |
underfunded schools in whole swathes of the country. The current | :54:31. | :54:33. | |
arrangements, a child from a disadvantaged background in one | :54:34. | :54:36. | |
school can receive half as much funding as a child an identical | :54:37. | :54:40. | |
circumstances in another school. In its place, we will introduce a new | :54:41. | :54:44. | |
national funding formula. I commend to the many MPs from all parties who | :54:45. | :54:48. | |
have campaigned for many years to see this day come. It will start to | :54:49. | :54:54. | |
be introduced from 2017. My right honourable friend the Education | :54:55. | :54:56. | |
Secretary will consult in the New Year. Education continues in our | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
further education colleges and universities, and so do our reforms. | :55:01. | :55:04. | |
We will not come as many predicted, cut for adult skills funding for | :55:05. | :55:10. | |
colleges. Instead, we will protected in cash terms. In the Budget, I | :55:11. | :55:14. | |
announce we will replace an affordable student maintenance | :55:15. | :55:17. | |
grants with larger student loans that saves us over ?2 billion each | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
year in the Spending Review. It means we can extend support to | :55:22. | :55:24. | |
students who have never before had government help. Today I can | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
announce that part-time students will be able to receive maintenance | :55:29. | :55:31. | |
loans helping some of our poorest students which, will for the first | :55:32. | :55:38. | |
time, provide tuition fee loans for those pursuing higher skills in | :55:39. | :55:42. | |
further education. Almost 250,000 extra students will benefit from all | :55:43. | :55:45. | |
this new support I am announcing today. Mr Speaker, there is then the | :55:46. | :55:53. | |
apprenticeship programme, the flagship of our commitment to | :55:54. | :55:56. | |
skills. In the last Parliament we more than doubled the number of | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
apprenticeships to 2 million. By 2020, we want to see 3 million | :56:01. | :56:02. | |
apprentices. To make sure they 2020, we want to see 3 million | :56:03. | :56:08. | |
will increase the funding per place. My right honourable friend the | :56:09. | :56:10. | |
Business Secretary will create a new business led body to set the | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
standards. As a result will be spending twice as much on | :56:15. | :56:17. | |
apprenticeships by 2020 compared to when we to office. To ensure large | :56:18. | :56:22. | |
businesses share the cost of training and workforce, I announced | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
in the Budget we will introduce a new apprenticeship levy from April | :56:27. | :56:31. | |
2017. Today I am setting the rate at 0.5% of an employer's pay bill. | :56:32. | :56:36. | |
Every employer will receive a ?15,000 allowance to offset against | :56:37. | :56:40. | |
the levy, which means 98% of all employers and all businesses who pay | :56:41. | :56:44. | |
bills of less than ?3 billion will pay no levy at all. It means the | :56:45. | :56:49. | |
apprentice ships levy will raise ?3 billion per year, and will fund 3 | :56:50. | :56:52. | |
million apprentice ships. With those paying is able to get more than they | :56:53. | :56:57. | |
put in, it is a huge reform to raise the skills of the nation and address | :56:58. | :57:00. | |
one of the enduring weaknesses of the British economy. Mr Speaker, | :57:01. | :57:07. | |
education and skills are the foundation of opportunity in our | :57:08. | :57:10. | |
country. Next we need to help people into work. The number claiming | :57:11. | :57:15. | |
unemployment benefits has fallen to just 2.3%, the lowest rate since | :57:16. | :57:21. | |
1975. But we are not satisfied that the job is done. We want to see full | :57:22. | :57:26. | |
employment. Today, we confirm we will extend the same support and | :57:27. | :57:30. | |
conditionality we currently expect of those on JSA 2/1 million more | :57:31. | :57:34. | |
benefit claimants. Those signing on will have to attend a Jobcentre | :57:35. | :57:37. | |
every week for the first three months and will increase, in real | :57:38. | :57:42. | |
terms, they help we provide for those with disabilities to get them | :57:43. | :57:45. | |
into words. This will all be delivered within the 14% savings we | :57:46. | :57:50. | |
make to the resource Budget for the Department for Work and Pensions, | :57:51. | :57:52. | |
including by reducing the side of their estate and co-locating job | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
centres with local authority buildings. It is the way to save | :57:57. | :58:00. | |
money while improving the front-line service we offer people and | :58:01. | :58:03. | |
providing more support for those that are the most vulnerable and | :58:04. | :58:11. | |
most in need of our help. You cannot say you are fearlessly tackling the | :58:12. | :58:13. | |
most difficult social problems if you turn a blind eye to what goes on | :58:14. | :58:17. | |
in our prisons and criminal justice system. My right honourable friend | :58:18. | :58:21. | |
the Lord Chancellor has worked with the Lord Chief Justice and others to | :58:22. | :58:24. | |
put forward a typically bold and radical plan to transform our courts | :58:25. | :58:29. | |
so they are fit for the modern age. Underused courts will be closed. I | :58:30. | :58:32. | |
can announce today the money saved will be used to fund a ?700 million | :58:33. | :58:38. | |
investment in new technology that will bring further and permanent | :58:39. | :58:41. | |
long-term savings and speed up the process of justice. Old Victorian | :58:42. | :58:48. | |
prisons in our cities that are not suitable for rehabilitating | :58:49. | :58:52. | |
prisoners will be sold. This will also bring long-term savings and | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
means we can spend over ?1 billion in this Parliament building nine | :58:56. | :59:00. | |
modern new prisons. Today, the transformation gets under way, with | :59:01. | :59:02. | |
the announcement that the Justice Secretary has just made. I can tell | :59:03. | :59:07. | |
the House that Holloway prison, the biggest women's jail in Western | :59:08. | :59:11. | |
Europe, will close. In the future, women prisoners will serve sentences | :59:12. | :59:15. | |
in more humane additions, better designed to keep them away from | :59:16. | :59:21. | |
crime. -- conditions. By selling these old prisons, we will create | :59:22. | :59:24. | |
more space for housing in inner cities, for another of the great | :59:25. | :59:28. | |
social failures of our age has been the failure to build enough houses. | :59:29. | :59:32. | |
In the end, spending reviews like this come down to choices about what | :59:33. | :59:37. | |
your priorities are. I am clear in the Spending Review that we choose | :59:38. | :59:42. | |
to build. Above all, we choose to build the homes that people can buy, | :59:43. | :59:46. | |
for there is a growing crisis of home ownership in our country. 15 | :59:47. | :59:52. | |
years ago around 60% of people under 35 own their own home. Next year it | :59:53. | :00:01. | |
is said to be half that. We made a start on tackling this in the last | :00:02. | :00:02. | |
Parliament. With schemes like help to buy, the number of first-time | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
buyers rose by nearly 60%. But we haven't done nearly enough yet, so | :00:07. | :00:10. | |
it is time to do much more. Today we set out our bold plan to back | :00:11. | :00:14. | |
families that aspire to buy their own home. First, I am doubling the | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
housing Budget. Doubling the housing Budget. Dublin yet to ?2 billion a | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
year. -- doubling it. We will deliver, with government help, | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
400,000 affordable new homes by the end of the decade. Affordable means | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
not just affordable to rent, but affordable to buy as well. That is | :00:31. | :00:41. | |
the biggest house-building programme by any government since the 1970s. | :00:42. | :00:42. | |
Almost half of them will be our starter homes sold | :00:43. | :00:53. | |
at 20% of the market value from new buyers. We will remove many of the | :00:54. | :00:59. | |
restrictions on shared ownership, who can buy them and who they can be | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
sold on to. The second part of our housing plan delivers on the | :01:05. | :01:10. | |
manifesto commitment. I can tell the House this starts with the new pilot | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
and from midnight tonight, tenants of five housing associations will be | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
able to start the process of buying their own home. The third element of | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
the plan involves accelerating housing supply, announcing further | :01:25. | :01:29. | |
reforms to our planning system so that it delivers more homes more | :01:30. | :01:32. | |
quickly. We are releasing public land suitable for homes and we said | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
-- designating commercial land for homes. We will regenerate more | :01:40. | :01:46. | |
rundown estates and deliver the first new garden city in nearly a | :01:47. | :01:50. | |
century. The Government will help address the housing crisis in our | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
capital city with the new scheme, London helped to buy. Londoners with | :01:57. | :02:02. | |
a 5% deposit will be able to get an interest-free loan. My honourable | :02:03. | :02:09. | |
friend for Richmond Park has been campaigning on affordable home | :02:10. | :02:12. | |
ownership for London. Today we back him all the way. And the fifth part | :02:13. | :02:18. | |
of our housing plan addresses the fact that more and more homes are | :02:19. | :02:23. | |
being bought as buy to lets or second homes. Many are cash purses | :02:24. | :02:33. | |
his -- purchases which are not restricted by the Budget when many | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
are bought by people not in this country. People buying at home to | :02:38. | :02:40. | |
let should not be squeezing out families who cannot afford a home to | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
buy. I am introducing a new Stamp Duty which will be 3% higher on | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
additional homes. It will be introduced from April next year and | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
will consult on the details so that corporate property development is | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
not affected. This will raise nearly ?1 billion by 2021 and we will | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
reinvest some of that money in local communities in London and places | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
like Cornwall which are being priced out of home ownership. The funds we | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
will rose will help build these new homes. This Spending Review delivers | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
a doubling of the House and budget, 400,000 new homes with extra support | :03:21. | :03:25. | |
for London, estates regenerated, Right to Buy rolled out, paid for by | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
attacks on buy to lets and second homes, delivered by a Conservative | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
government committed to helping working people who want to buy their | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
own home, for we are the builders. Mr Speaker, the fourth and final | :03:41. | :03:48. | |
objective of this Spending Review is national security. On Monday, the | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
Prime Minister set out to the House the strategic defence and Security | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
review. It commits Britain to spending 2% of our income on defence | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
and it details how these resources will be used to provide new | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
equipment from war fighting military, new defences for our | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
cyberspace and you just meant -- investment in our intelligence | :04:15. | :04:16. | |
agencies. The single intelligence account will reach 2.8 billion and | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
the defence budget will rise from ?34 billion a day. Britain also | :04:21. | :04:31. | |
commits to spend zero x seven centre of a -- 0.7% of our commitment to | :04:32. | :04:41. | |
the overseas budget. It is overwhelmingly in our national | :04:42. | :04:49. | |
interest that we recommit our borders. Britain is unique in the | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
world to making these twin commitments to funding both the hard | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
power of military might and the soft power of international development. | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
It enables us to project our -- protect ourselves, project our | :05:02. | :05:11. | |
prosperity. We are supported by our outstanding diplomatic service. I'm | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
protecting in real terms the Budget of the Foreign and Commonwealth | :05:18. | :05:23. | |
Office. Security starts at home. Our police are on the front line of the | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
fight to keep us safe. In the last Parliament we made savings in police | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
budgets but thanks to the reforms of my right honourable friend the Home | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
Secretary and the hard work of police officers, crime fell and the | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
number of neighbourhood offices increased. That reform must continue | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
in this Parliament. We must invest in new state-of-the-art mobile | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
communications for our emergency services, it increased new | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
technology at the border and increase the counterterrorism budget | :05:53. | :05:57. | |
by 13%. We should allow policing crime commission is greater | :05:58. | :06:03. | |
flexibility and further savings can be made in the police as different | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
forces merge their back-office and share their expertise and we will | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
provide a new fund to help with this reform. Mr Speaker, I have had | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
representations from the Shadow Home Secretary that the police budget | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
should be cut by 10%. But now is not the time for further police cuts. | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
Now is the time to back our police and give them the tools to do the | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
job. I am today announcing that there will be no cuts in the police | :06:32. | :06:40. | |
budget at all. It will mean real terms protection for police funding. | :06:41. | :06:50. | |
Mr Speaker, the police protect us and we are going to protect the | :06:51. | :07:01. | |
police. Five years ago, when I presented my first Spending Review, | :07:02. | :07:03. | |
the country was on the presented my first Spending Review, | :07:04. | :07:08. | |
bankruptcy and our economy was in crisis. We took the | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
bankruptcy and our economy was in decisions back them and five years | :07:13. | :07:15. | |
later I report on an economy growing faster than its competitors and we | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
are set to reach a faster than its competitors and we | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
billion. Today we have set out the further decisions necessary to build | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
this country's future. Some science difficult, yes. -- sometimes | :07:29. | :07:36. | |
difficult, yes. To build the homes people need, stronger defences | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
against those who threaten our life and build the strong public finances | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
on which all these things depend. We were elected as a 1 nation | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
government. Today, we delivered the Spending Review of a 1 nation | :07:50. | :07:55. | |
government. The guardians of economic security, protectors of | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
national security, the builders of our better future, this government, | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
the mainstream representatives of the working people of Britain. | :08:07. | :08:23. | |
Opposition who responds. Here is Opposition who responds. Here is | :08:24. | :08:29. | |
Mr Speaker, like me, you will Opposition who responds. Here is | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
witnessed many Autumn Statement and statements from the Chancellor of | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
fixed. And you will know that there is such a thing as the iron roar of | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
Chancellor's statements. And the iron law of Chancellor's statements | :08:43. | :08:47. | |
Chancellor's statements. And the is the louder the cheers for the | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
Chancellor's statements. And the the disappointment by the weekend | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
when the analysis goes in. From what we have heard today, we do not need | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
until the weekend for this statement to fall apart. Over the last five | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
until the weekend for this statement years, that has barely been a target | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
the Chancellor has set, hasn't missed or has ignored. Five years | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
ago, the newly elected Chancellor and the Prime Minister came to this | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
House and warned us that because of the dire economic situation our | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
country faced, what was needed was a five-year programme of austerity | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
measures. Job cuts, wage freezes and cuts in public services. But we were | :09:32. | :09:39. | |
promised specifically by this Chancellor, that by today, the | :09:40. | :09:49. | |
deficit would be eliminated. And debts would be under control. And | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
that would be under control and falling dramatically. People put | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
their trust in that commitment. Order. I said earlier, the Prime | :10:01. | :10:07. | |
Minister would be heard. The Shadow Chancellor will be heard, too. If | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
people think they are being clever shouting their heads off, don't | :10:15. | :10:19. | |
bother trying to ask a question. Try at least to have the sense to | :10:20. | :10:23. | |
realise the conflict between the two. Mr John McDonnell. | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
The Prime Minister also assured us, Mr Speaker, that there would be hard | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
earned sacrifices to be made. We were all in it together. Five years | :10:35. | :10:43. | |
on. Can I just say today, this Chancellor has got some front to | :10:44. | :10:46. | |
come to this House and talk about deficit and let -- lecture us about | :10:47. | :10:56. | |
deficit reduction. Today is the day when the Chancellor was supposed to | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
announce austerity was over, the deficit was cleared. From what we | :11:03. | :11:06. | |
have heard today, I think they will feel betrayed. The reality is this, | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
after five years, the deficit has not been eliminated and this year it | :11:13. | :11:19. | |
is predicted to be over ?17 billion. Instead of taking five years to | :11:20. | :11:21. | |
eliminate the deficit as he promised, it will take ten. And debt | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
to GDP will not be the 69% he promised five years ago. As he said | :11:29. | :11:37. | |
today, it would be 82.5%. We are now potentially to be quite to our | :11:38. | :11:44. | |
children a debt of 1.5 trillion. -- to bequeath to our children. Their | :11:45. | :12:01. | |
debt. The Chancellor continues... Both sides are still shouting their | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
heads off. It is very down-market. It is Rory low-grade. It is Bray | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
widely deprecated by the public. How it is that people think it is | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
legitimate to behave in that way and reconnect with the electorate | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
disillusioned with politics is bizarre. If some people are so | :12:21. | :12:23. | |
unintelligent they still cannot grasp the point, I pity them. John | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
McDonnell. After five years as Chancellor with that level of debt, | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
there is nobody else for him to blame. There is only so long you can | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
blame past governments. There is no more excuses for this Chancellor | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
after five years. And we were also promised it sacrifices had to be | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
made to tackle the deficit, not to worry, we were all in this together. | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
No we are not. 85% of the money saved from tax and benefit cuts in | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
the last parliament came directly out of women's pockets. Disabled | :12:58. | :13:04. | |
people were hit 18 times harder than anybody else. 4.1 children now live | :13:05. | :13:15. | |
in absolute poverty, an increase of 500,000 from 2009-10. And the fiasco | :13:16. | :13:24. | |
over tax credits demonstrated once and for all that we were not in this | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
together. At the same time as the Chancellor was planning to cut tax | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
credits to working families, he cut inheritance tax is for some of the | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
wealthiest families in this country. When the Chancellor and the Prime | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
Minister were first elected to their current positions, they were | :13:45. | :13:47. | |
attacked for being posh boys. I disagreed with that strongly. It was | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
unfair. People don't choose what class they are born into all the | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
wealth they inherit. Nevertheless, if you are fortunate enough to have | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
wealth or good incomes, as with all MPs, the onus is upon us to take | :14:02. | :14:08. | |
particular care when taking decisions for people with lives less | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
fortunate than ourselves. What angered many in this House and | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
across the country is the way there was no attempt by the Chancellor to | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
understand the effects of the decision to cut tax credits. For | :14:21. | :14:28. | |
many families it would have been a choice between children being able | :14:29. | :14:34. | |
to go on that school trip like other children or having a decent | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
Christmas or a winter coat. Today, the Chancellor has been forced into | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
a U-turn on his tax credits. And I want to congratulate the members of | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
this House on all sides who make this happen. I want to congratulate | :14:52. | :14:56. | |
the members in the other House as well. I am glad he has listened to | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
Labour and seen sense. But as ever, with this Chancellor, we await | :15:02. | :15:08. | |
further clarification on the details, particularly the limit -- | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
if the limit to two children remains, and we are aware of the | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
impact on Universal Credit. It appears the 14,000 families already | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
on Universal Credit will still suffer the full cut. And all | :15:23. | :15:27. | |
families who would newly qualify for tax credits in 2018 will suffer the | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
full cut under Universal Credit. So this is not a full and fair reversal | :15:33. | :15:37. | |
as we pleaded for. And the Chancellor remains committed to ?12 | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
billion of welfare cuts over the course of this Parliament. And we | :15:44. | :15:46. | |
know where they will fall, on the most vulnerable, the poorest and | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
those just struggling to survive. Some believe that the Chancellor is | :15:53. | :15:58. | |
using the deficit and austerity to reshape the role of the British | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
state. That this is some well thought through Machiavellian | :16:03. | :16:11. | |
scheme. I don't any more. I am convinced this is sheer economic | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
illiteracy, built upon incompetence and poor judgment. Today, only four | :16:15. | :16:24. | |
weeks ago, only four weeks ago he brought to this House a charter for | :16:25. | :16:31. | |
fiscal responsibility. A central part of that was adherence to his | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
welfare cap, which we supported. Today, he has broken his own welfare | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
cap. Let me say what he said before. He said himself, introducing the cap | :16:44. | :16:49. | |
last year, breaking it would be, and I quote the Chancellor, a failure of | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
public expenditure control. On his own terms, his own language, | :16:56. | :17:02. | |
condemned. The Government is putting today and not invest in the future. | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
-- cutting. He is putting us all that future risk. I want to | :17:07. | :17:16. | |
congratulate the honourable member who campaigned on policing cuts, | :17:17. | :17:25. | |
which has caused a U-turn. We don't forget, though... Mr Speaker, we | :17:26. | :17:32. | |
don't forget that we faced the highest level of risk from terrorist | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
attack in a generation. But we have already lost 17,000 police officers | :17:38. | :17:46. | |
undercuts under this Government. We know the first line of intelligence | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
collection, prevention and response are the local police officers in the | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
community. So we claim today, as another Labour gain and victory. Let | :17:55. | :18:05. | |
me say also, there are concerns now about the impact | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
me say also, there are concerns now council cuts and bruises in | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
expenditure on other emergency services. -- cuts and freezes. We | :18:13. | :18:21. | |
fear for safety as more firefighters jobs are cut and fire stations | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
closed as a result of the settlement today. In health, the Chancellor has | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
announced he is frontloading part of the additional ?8 billion worth of | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
funding. In reality, this will only plug some of the gap in the huge | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
deficits health trusts are reporting. But the Government is | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
also relying upon ?22 billion worth of unrealistic savings to be found. | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
The extra money seems to be coming from nurse training, the public | :18:50. | :18:55. | |
health Budget and other aspects of Local Authority Support around care. | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
This would be a false economy that would simply cause more burdens to | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
fall on the NHS. All the signs are that we are facing a massive winter | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
crisis in our NHS and, yet again, we will have to rely on our | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
professional dedication of our staff. The Health Secretary, | :19:13. | :19:20. | |
refusing to go to ACAS to settle the junior doctors dispute is no way to | :19:21. | :19:25. | |
maintain the morale amongst our NHS professionals. One of the greatest | :19:26. | :19:37. | |
scandals and list -- under this to cancel has been the attack on social | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
care. 3000 beds have been lost already. According to the | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
Association of directors of adult services, the care preset, the 2% | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
announced by the Chancellor, is not nearly enough to fill the funding | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
gap this Government has created. The result is that some of the most | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
vulnerable people in our society will be at risk and more people will | :20:01. | :20:04. | |
be forced to resort to their local hospital for their care. We also | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
know much more hospital for their care. We also | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
people suffering from mental health problems and we welcome the | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
additional funding today devoted to mental health. But it is no use of | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
funding through the Health Service for mental health support, when | :20:24. | :20:25. | |
Local Authority Support is being cut as a result of this settlement. More | :20:26. | :20:32. | |
people will be left vulnerable. In education, the Government claims | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
that school budgets will be protected. Let me say this, we fear | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
that the Government will use the new funding formula to take away from | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
the pupils who most need it, the most deprived. We will monitor the | :20:44. | :20:53. | |
funding carefully to ensure equity. In today's statement, the Chancellor | :20:54. | :21:05. | |
has announced that for further education, there will be a | :21:06. | :21:08. | |
settlement that restricted to cash. That means that sixth form and | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
education colleges around the country will be at threat of | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
closure. Just at a time when the economy is crying out for a | :21:18. | :21:20. | |
skilled, educated workforce, the Government was denying access to | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
young people for the local courses they need. With regard to childcare, | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
announced today, we noted his yet again, another two years, another | :21:30. | :21:36. | |
delay in a commitment. The Chancellor's much vaunted pledge on | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
house-building is cobbled together from reheated promises from the | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
past, the vast majority have already been announced. The Tories should be | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
judged by their actions, not their words. The Chancellor's first act in | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
office was to slash housing investment by 60%. His plans today | :21:56. | :22:02. | |
could still mean 40% less to build the homes we need, compared to the | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
investment programme he inherited from Labour. House-building now, as | :22:06. | :22:13. | |
a result, remains at the lowest peacetime level since the 1920s. As | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
my honourable member for Wakefield said this morning, if hot-air built | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
homes, Conservative Ministers would have sold our housing crisis. I | :22:24. | :22:31. | |
worry that the vast majority of young people hoping for new homes | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
will be disappointed by the Chancellor's failure to deliver. His | :22:37. | :22:40. | |
record on building anything so far does not inspire confidence at all. | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
Over the last year, the Chancellor has forced himself on to building | :22:47. | :22:49. | |
sites all around the country, to obtain a photo with a high viz | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
jacket. When the Chancellor did his Bob the Builder speech at Tory party | :22:55. | :22:56. | |
Conference, what he didn't tell delegates was that his abysmal | :22:57. | :23:04. | |
investment record, only 9% of the project started and his | :23:05. | :23:07. | |
infrastructure pipeline in two years. In 2012, he announced a ?40 | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
billion guarantee scheme. Three years on, only 9% has been signed | :23:14. | :23:21. | |
up. In 2011, he announced a ?20 billion pensions infrastructure | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
platform. Four years on, only ?1 billion of commitment has been | :23:25. | :23:29. | |
secured. The construction industry is actually shrinking and going into | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
recession. He has also failed to invest in schools. The Royal | :23:33. | :23:36. | |
Institute of chartered surveyors has said that the biggest infrastructure | :23:37. | :23:40. | |
programmes could grind to a halt unless the Government adopts new | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
measures to tackle skills and funding. The most ironic cut of all | :23:45. | :23:51. | |
must be the virtual closure of large sections for the Department for | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
Business, Innovation and Skills. There are 46,000 unfilled vacancies | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
due to the lack of a skilled workforce. Naturally, the Government | :24:02. | :24:05. | |
solution is to move to effectively close the one department tasked with | :24:06. | :24:11. | |
improving skill levels. On the environment, the Government has | :24:12. | :24:13. | |
announced today various measures. Let's be very clear. Government | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
Ministers can go to the Paris summit on climate change with the proud | :24:20. | :24:22. | |
record of nearly killing off our once flourishing solar and renewable | :24:23. | :24:29. | |
energy sector. On international aid, let me caution, the Budget is | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
supposedly protected, that is now to be raided for defence spending. In | :24:35. | :24:42. | |
defence, the Government has previously commissioned an aircraft | :24:43. | :24:44. | |
carrier, and have at least woken up to the fact that it needed aircraft | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
as well. The funding of the defence review is to come from ?11 billion | :24:51. | :24:53. | |
worth of cuts, with the inevitable loss of thousands of defence worker | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
jobs, whose specialist skills will be lost for ever. Alongside these | :24:59. | :25:05. | |
cuts, and many more, do help dig himself out of the financial hole he | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
has got himself into, the Chancellor is selling off whatever public | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
assets he can. This is no longer the family silver. . This is the | :25:17. | :25:19. | |
furniture, the fixtures and fittings. We know who is first in | :25:20. | :25:28. | |
line to buy. I never envisaged when it came to nationalising I would be | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
egged on by a Conservative Chancellor. The only difference | :25:33. | :25:34. | |
between us is that I would like to bring services like rail back into | :25:35. | :25:38. | |
the ownership of the British people, the Chancellor wants to sell them to | :25:39. | :25:44. | |
the People's Republic of China. Nationalisation is OK for him, as | :25:45. | :25:47. | |
long as it is by any other state but ours. To assist Conrad Osborn in his | :25:48. | :25:54. | |
dealings with new-found comrades, I have brought him along Mao's Little | :25:55. | :26:06. | |
Red Book. Let me quote, Mr Speaker. Order! I want to hear about the | :26:07. | :26:14. | |
contents of the book! I think you will find this invaluable. Order, | :26:15. | :26:29. | |
you are rather an excitable one! I thought this would help him, Mr | :26:30. | :26:37. | |
Speaker. Let's quote from Mao. The quote is this. Behave! We must learn | :26:38. | :26:47. | |
to do economic work from all who know how, no matter who they are. We | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
must esteem them as teachers, learning from them respectively and | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
conscientiously. But we must not pretend to know what we do not | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
know. I thought it would come in handy for him in his new | :27:01. | :27:09. | |
relationship. Mr Speaker, I am sure in this debate... I am sure, Mr | :27:10. | :27:19. | |
Speaker that Tory backbenchers will be under instruction to shoehorn | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
into their speeches at every opportunity references to the | :27:24. | :27:29. | |
mythical long-term economic plan. What we have been presented with | :27:30. | :27:34. | |
today is not an economic plan for a political fix, it is not a plan when | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
you ridiculously commit yourself to an achievable policies and leave | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
yourself no room to manoeuvre. It is not a plan when you sell off every | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
long-term asset you have for short-term gain. It is not a plan | :27:49. | :27:51. | |
when you leave important industry is going to the wall, as they have done | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
with steel. It is not a plan when you cut the support for those in | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
work and the working families, leaving them to rely on food banks. | :28:00. | :28:05. | |
It is not a plan when you force councils to close the very services | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
people depend upon. It is not a plan when you invest so little in schools | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
and infrastructure that you put our future at risk. Instead, what we | :28:14. | :28:19. | |
have seen today is the launch of a manifesto for the Conservative | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
leadership election. Our long-term economic security has been | :28:25. | :28:26. | |
sacrificed for the benefit of one man's career. But I say to the | :28:27. | :28:36. | |
honourable member for Maidenhead, and my neighbour, he is gone, the | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
honourable member for Uxbridge, don't worry, the economic reality | :28:41. | :28:44. | |
that is emerging in our economy will mean that this will be seen as the | :28:45. | :28:51. | |
apex of the Chancellor's career. The honourable member for Goddard | :28:52. | :29:07. | |
Inquiry will recognise in the Chancellor Icarus, the boy who flew | :29:08. | :29:13. | |
too close to the sun and burned and cracked. I fear for the Chancellor | :29:14. | :29:17. | |
it is all downhill from here. On this side of the House, we will do | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
all we can to ensure he does not take this economy and country down | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
with him. In the end, this debate is about what sort of society we want | :29:26. | :29:33. | |
to live in. In the end, this debate is about what sort of society we | :29:34. | :29:36. | |
want to live in. The Government is systematically dismantling all those | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
aspects of society that make our community with living in and | :29:43. | :29:43. | |
celebrating. The Chancellor is not community with living in and | :29:44. | :29:57. | |
eliminate the deficit, but we will do it fairly and effectively. We | :29:58. | :30:05. | |
will do it by ensuring that we end the tax cuts to the rich, we tackle | :30:06. | :30:13. | |
tax avoidance, we invest to grow. We will grow our economy and | :30:14. | :30:19. | |
investments in skills and infrastructure. We will become an | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
addition to the financial centre of Europe with a research in science | :30:24. | :30:27. | |
and technology. We will become the technology centre of Europe under a | :30:28. | :30:34. | |
Labour government. That means high skills, high investment, high wages. | :30:35. | :30:38. | |
That is what we are committed to on this side, this is what we will | :30:39. | :30:39. | |
secure when we and Autumn Statement continues | :30:40. | :30:56. | |
in the Chamber - if you want But let's take | :30:57. | :31:07. | |
a moment now to take you through The main headline today, clearly, is | :31:08. | :31:10. | |
Review and Autumn Statement. The main headline today, clearly, is | :31:11. | :31:22. | |
that tax credit cuts are The main headline today, clearly, is | :31:23. | :31:29. | |
have not been ameliorated, have not been changed, not been reformed, not | :31:30. | :31:32. | |
been delayed, they have been avoided been changed, not been reformed, not | :31:33. | :31:36. | |
altogether. They did been changed, not been reformed, not | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
year, even though he only announced them in July. He also announced that | :31:41. | :31:44. | |
education funding would be protected in real terms which takes it beyond | :31:45. | :31:53. | |
the earlier protection he gave it in the March budget. And the other | :31:54. | :31:56. | |
the earlier protection he gave it in headline that we got is there will | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
be no cuts to police budgets in England and Wales. Police | :32:02. | :32:07. | |
be no cuts to police budgets in devolved matter for Scotland, Wales | :32:08. | :32:09. | |
and Northern Ireland. The Chancellor has decided he will not cut the | :32:10. | :32:12. | |
police budget at all has decided he will not cut the | :32:13. | :32:17. | |
talk beforehand. And the NHS budget in England with consequent rises in | :32:18. | :32:21. | |
other parts of the UK will rise from its current ?101 billion a year to | :32:22. | :32:32. | |
?120 billion by the new parliament, 2020 - 21. Housing featured large in | :32:33. | :32:37. | |
the Chancellor's Autumn Statement as well. He has doubled the housing | :32:38. | :32:42. | |
budget. His aim is to provide 400,000 new homes. That was leaked | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
to the papers this morning. It is an extension of giving people a | :32:48. | :32:50. | |
discount to buy homes provided they are under a certain value, and the | :32:51. | :32:56. | |
share of home ownership as well. Not for rent. The apprenticeship levy is | :32:57. | :33:05. | |
set at 0.5% of an employer's wage bill. It is designed for large | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
employers. It is to encourage them to do their own apprenticeships, | :33:11. | :33:14. | |
because the more people they train and give skills, the less they will | :33:15. | :33:17. | |
have to pay this levy or they will get bits of it back. Capital | :33:18. | :33:23. | |
spending on transport is to increase by a substantial amount to ?61 | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
billion. It is a 50% rise by 2019-20. Small business rate relief | :33:30. | :33:40. | |
will be extended for another year. The Chancellor had to give some new | :33:41. | :33:45. | |
economic forecasts. The first one is that public spending will rise to | :33:46. | :33:52. | |
?821 billion by 2019-20. In other words, by the end of the Parliament. | :33:53. | :33:58. | |
Despite what was quite a substantial rise in public spending between now | :33:59. | :34:02. | |
and the end of the decade, the Chancellor is still predicting that | :34:03. | :34:05. | |
as a percentage of our GDP, our national wealth, the country's | :34:06. | :34:11. | |
national debt will start to fall now. He aims to get us into a budget | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
surplus of just over ?10 billion by 2020. There had been a lot of | :34:16. | :34:19. | |
speculation that he might not be able to meet that figure given the | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
demands on extra spending, but he has added ?100 billion to show he | :34:25. | :34:34. | |
has done a little bit better. Growth forecast for 2016 and 2017 are | :34:35. | :34:40. | |
revised up, but only by a smidgen. Then they are down little bit | :34:41. | :34:43. | |
later. Essentially, the OBR thinks this economy is going to grow at | :34:44. | :34:49. | |
about 2.5% for the rest of the decade. So, what does all this mean | :34:50. | :34:54. | |
for borrowing? He has still got quite a lot to borrow. But he aims | :34:55. | :35:00. | |
to get it down, as he did promising in the first parliament in 2010. | :35:01. | :35:05. | |
This year he is expecting to borrow ?73.5 billion, a little bit up on | :35:06. | :35:10. | |
what was planned before. Next year, he hopes to get that down to ?50 | :35:11. | :35:15. | |
billion. Then another big cut, he wants to get it down to 25 billion | :35:16. | :35:19. | |
and then he hopes to see an enormous cut down to 4 billion. By the final | :35:20. | :35:28. | |
year of this Parliament he produces his promised ?10 billion surplus. | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
Now, to do that, he has had to make a number of cuts but he also plans | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
to spend a lot of money in this budget. We will have to look at how | :35:38. | :35:43. | |
these figures work. There will be a lot of number crunching to test what | :35:44. | :35:46. | |
the Chancellor has been saying today. On the face of it, some of it | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
does not add up. The business department takes a cut of 17% by the | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
end of the decade. Environment is down by 15%, energy by 22%, and the | :35:58. | :36:05. | |
Cabinet Office by 26%. A number of departments have taken cuts, often | :36:06. | :36:10. | |
in the administration rather than their capital investment. In | :36:11. | :36:14. | |
transport, there is a big increase in capital investment but admin | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
costs are slashed. On welfare, the tax credit, the police cuts will no | :36:20. | :36:24. | |
longer go ahead. But there will be ?12 billion of welfare savings to be | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
delivered. As this Parliament goes on, other welfare cuts will have to | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
click into meat that 12 billion figure. The welfare cap, which the | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
Chancellor introduced himself as a result of him deciding not to | :36:39. | :36:42. | |
proceed with his tax credit cuts and reforms, he will breach that cap in | :36:43. | :36:47. | |
the first year of this Parliament. He said he will fall in the cap, | :36:48. | :36:52. | |
after that, we will see. New social housing tenants are to have their | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
housing benefit capped, to make up for the loss in savings from not | :36:57. | :37:02. | |
proceeding with the tax credit reforms. The NHS budget in England | :37:03. | :37:13. | |
will rise ?101 billion to ?120 billion by 2021. The Department of | :37:14. | :37:18. | |
health's Administration budget will see a 25% cut. They will expect the | :37:19. | :37:23. | |
department to get a lot more efficient. Loans will replace grants | :37:24. | :37:27. | |
for student nurses. That is something that will have to be | :37:28. | :37:31. | |
looked at carefully as well. And local authorities which have | :37:32. | :37:34. | |
suffered massive cuts from central funding and central government, yet | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
have not been allowed to increase their council tax, they will now be | :37:39. | :37:44. | |
able to raise their council tax by 2%, provided all the money they | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
raise for that is dedicated for social care, to caring the | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
community. And then another big government spending area, education. | :37:55. | :37:58. | |
There will be a ?10 million increase in total education funding during | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
this Parliament. The free 30 hours of childcare is to be limited to | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
parents who work more than 16 hours a week, part of the Government's | :38:08. | :38:14. | |
attempt to get part-time people to work more hours. Funding for further | :38:15. | :38:17. | |
education colleges will be protected in cash terms, not in real terms, | :38:18. | :38:22. | |
but when inflation is very low cash is close to real anyway. Sixth form | :38:23. | :38:29. | |
colleges will be allowed to become academies and as a result, they will | :38:30. | :38:34. | |
therefore no longer pay VAT and that will be quite a saving. This is a | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
massive Autumn Statement and Spending Review. A huge amount of | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
detail. The paperwork is only now coming into this studio. We are | :38:46. | :38:50. | |
getting some of it online. There is a lot to pore over. The devil will | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
be in the detail and things the Chancellor has put into the | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
paperwork but did not bother to tell us in his announcement. He would not | :38:59. | :39:00. | |
be the first Chancellor to do that. Now we've been joined | :39:01. | :39:03. | |
in the studio by a man who has variously been described | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
the "real Chancellor", "the most important man in government you've | :39:07. | :39:08. | |
never heard of", or even "one half of George | :39:09. | :39:11. | |
Osborne's brain". He's Rupert Harrison, and he used to | :39:12. | :39:18. | |
be George Osborne's chief of staff. He now works for | :39:19. | :39:25. | |
the massive fund managers Blackrock, and he's joined us for what I | :39:26. | :39:27. | |
believe is his first TV interview. It is. Come out from behind the | :39:28. | :39:35. | |
curtain! But first let's get some reaction | :39:36. | :39:39. | |
to the speech from our editors. George Osborne wants to see this as | :39:40. | :39:52. | |
after the rescue of the economy to the rebuilding of the economy. We | :39:53. | :39:55. | |
should not lose sight of something he said at the beginning of the | :39:56. | :40:01. | |
speech, by 2020 the state will make up nearly 30% of national income, | :40:02. | :40:06. | |
compared to 50% when he took office as Chancellor. That is a very | :40:07. | :40:11. | |
significant reshaping of the balancing of the economy. The huge | :40:12. | :40:15. | |
cheers from the Conservative benches today don't hide that there were big | :40:16. | :40:20. | |
climb downs in their, that were not about his political ideology and | :40:21. | :40:25. | |
rhetoric but reality. Most importantly on tax credits. Not | :40:26. | :40:30. | |
tinkering, not tweaking but dropping those cuts altogether. There will be | :40:31. | :40:33. | |
cuts to Universal Credit, the replacement. That is a big victory | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
for the House of Lords, the Labour Party, some Tory backbenchers | :40:39. | :40:43. | |
including Boris Johnson. The second big climb down was not cutting the | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
police budget at all. Many people believe in the last few days in | :40:50. | :40:53. | |
Westminster, after what happened in Paris, it was just not politically | :40:54. | :40:56. | |
possible to go ahead with the kind of cuts that had been expected. | :40:57. | :41:04. | |
Interestingly, two very big changes. Labour will claim them as | :41:05. | :41:09. | |
victories. Rather conveniently from George Osborne, that kills off | :41:10. | :41:14. | |
Labour's two strongest attacks on the Government at a time when they | :41:15. | :41:18. | |
have not been very effective of putting him under pressure. I want | :41:19. | :41:22. | |
to come to Robert Peston in a minute. Before I do, Kamal Ahmed, | :41:23. | :41:31. | |
what is the takeaway for business? How George Osborne can balance those | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
books is a huge movement of costs in pretty significant ways. Firstly, | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
there is the social care issue. A new tax-raising power will be given | :41:43. | :41:45. | |
to local authorities to pay for social care. Private care providers | :41:46. | :41:49. | |
who complain about the cost of social care will | :41:50. | :41:52. | |
who complain about the cost of raised from that will not | :41:53. | :41:55. | |
who complain about the cost of enough. There will still be a ?1 | :41:56. | :41:56. | |
billion shortfall. enough. There will still be a ?1 | :41:57. | :42:04. | |
billion to be raised on the enough. There will still be a ?1 | :42:05. | :42:12. | |
million apprentices he says by 2020. Again, putting the duty on the | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
private sector to deliver on things like skills, so vital to our | :42:16. | :42:20. | |
economy, and of course on housing. Direct funding support for housing | :42:21. | :42:26. | |
businesses, building companies, to build houses themselves, again | :42:27. | :42:32. | |
saying private sector, it is up to you to solve the supply-side problem | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
in housing. As I said before, there are lots of questions about whether | :42:39. | :42:42. | |
the housing industry can deliver and actually want to deliver and has the | :42:43. | :42:44. | |
skills to deliver. actually want to deliver and has the | :42:45. | :42:50. | |
this will be a monotonous repetition over the next few weeks, the whole | :42:51. | :42:54. | |
issue of announcing big numbers on capital investment, on transport. | :42:55. | :42:58. | |
issue of announcing big numbers on They are only announcements, they | :42:59. | :42:59. | |
are not delivery. The Government has They are only announcements, they | :43:00. | :43:05. | |
big scheme is the Chancellor says we need to make sure our economy is | :43:06. | :43:07. | |
thriving in the future. I need to make sure our economy is | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
the Autumn Statement was delivered, is there was a big move from | :43:14. | :43:17. | |
responsibility on local is there was a big move from | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
devolved powers and the private sector to deliver. Robert, | :43:22. | :43:31. | |
the Budget, that he is not increasing any | :43:32. | :43:32. | |
the Budget, that he is not there are tax rises built | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
the Budget, that he is not he is spreading money around all | :43:36. | :43:37. | |
over the place, yet he still says he will reach the surplus. Is there | :43:38. | :43:43. | |
something going on here that we don't yet | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
something going on here that we out by the Office for Budget | :43:48. | :43:54. | |
Responsibility, the agency he created, | :43:55. | :43:56. | |
Responsibility, the agency he higher tax revenues than it was | :43:57. | :44:02. | |
expecting only in July, and a significant reduction in interest | :44:03. | :44:04. | |
payments on the significant reduction in interest | :44:05. | :44:10. | |
debt. And so just to be clear, that is not to do with new taxes imposed | :44:11. | :44:17. | |
today, that is just the OBR being more optimistic and it says the | :44:18. | :44:21. | |
reason it is more optimistic is because it has new data on the rate | :44:22. | :44:23. | |
at which taxes are because it has new data on the rate | :44:24. | :44:29. | |
which has allowed it to make what it thinks is a rational judgment. Let's | :44:30. | :44:36. | |
be clear, these are judgments. They are not unbelievably | :44:37. | :44:38. | |
be clear, these are judgments. They scientific forecasts. The OBR might | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
get it wrong. But George Osborne is banking that windfall. You can see | :44:43. | :44:49. | |
that in perhaps the most important statement in the OBR's enormous book | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
it publishes, when it says the direct effect of | :44:55. | :44:57. | |
it publishes, when it says the policy decisions, has been to push | :44:58. | :45:04. | |
borrowing higher between 2016-17 and 2019-20. What that means is the | :45:05. | :45:09. | |
things he has done today, reversing, for example, the cuts in tax | :45:10. | :45:15. | |
credits, for example, freezing the Budget for the police, and actually | :45:16. | :45:22. | |
limiting cuts in individual departments, cuts in departments are | :45:23. | :45:27. | |
significantly less than we expected or that he outlined. They will be 12 | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
billion versus the 20 billion he was talking about only a few weeks ago. | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
So the direct effect of all of that is to push are being higher, but | :45:37. | :45:42. | |
borrowing actually comes down, because the OBR things that the | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
economy's ability to generate taxes is better than it was. Just to | :45:49. | :45:58. | |
reinforce the point that Kamal Ahmed makes, it is a big shift. It's | :45:59. | :46:05. | |
terribly important, in terms of shifting costs, from doing quite a | :46:06. | :46:11. | |
lot of the stuff that we expect the state to do, to the private sector. | :46:12. | :46:15. | |
Let me get to Rupert Harrison. How is it credible to suddenly produced | :46:16. | :46:21. | |
a ?27 billion underlying improvement in the nation's finances between | :46:22. | :46:27. | |
July and November? Well, it is an interesting pattern. If you think | :46:28. | :46:31. | |
about George Osborne's period being Chancellor, in a sense, the first | :46:32. | :46:35. | |
few years were a period where we saw downgrades to the growth forecast, | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
we had the eurozone crisis. The second half of the last Parliament | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
was the period when the economy looked to be picking up, but tax | :46:43. | :46:45. | |
receipts were not picky about the same rates. It looks like we are | :46:46. | :46:49. | |
possibly into a third phase where, finally, the tax receipts have | :46:50. | :46:54. | |
started to come through. Think the OBR are moving from what was quite a | :46:55. | :46:57. | |
cautious view on that, perhaps because the economy is growing, they | :46:58. | :47:00. | |
are a bit more confident about earnings. The OBR is saying during | :47:01. | :47:06. | |
this Parliament there will be ?47 billion in extra tax, without | :47:07. | :47:10. | |
putting tax up, because of tax buoyancy. Where is the evidence for | :47:11. | :47:15. | |
that? If you look at the October borrowing figures, the October | :47:16. | :47:19. | |
borrowing figures were the worst since October 2009 and that was | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
partly because tax receipts underperformed, in every major | :47:25. | :47:30. | |
category. Corporation tax, income tax, national insurance. How does it | :47:31. | :47:35. | |
suddenly produce an extra ?47 billion? There are for that, we | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
always told to not put too much onto one month's data. For the whole of | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
the financial year it is still bad. The OBR have seen those figures last | :47:47. | :47:50. | |
week, but they will not have had a chance to radically change their | :47:51. | :47:52. | |
forecast because of them, and probably nor should they. You should | :47:53. | :47:58. | |
always evaluate these big events by the hand the Chancellor was dealt | :47:59. | :48:02. | |
and how he chose to play at. He was dealt, by a growing economy and more | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
tax receipts, a better hand than he expected. Interestingly, he chose to | :48:08. | :48:11. | |
play that hand by essentially taking risks off the table. Instead of | :48:12. | :48:16. | |
snazzy, new tax cuts or giveaways, he has essentially taken the tax | :48:17. | :48:20. | |
credit issue of the table completely, he's taken police cuts | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
off the table. That is a sign that first of all we are early in the | :48:26. | :48:28. | |
Parliament, it is a phase where any money you have, you are about | :48:29. | :48:31. | |
reducing risks, and a reflection of the fact that we have a government | :48:32. | :48:37. | |
now that does not have a majority in the House of Lords and a very small | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
majority in House of Commons. But he is taking risks, he is spending the | :48:42. | :48:46. | |
tax buoyancy the are predicting. The OBR is assuming that the extra | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
growth is going to produce more tax receipts. But the increase in the | :48:52. | :48:58. | |
OBR forecasts are infinitesimal, 0.1 of a percentage. You were in the | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
Treasury. The OBR has no idea if the economy is going to go and grow by | :49:03. | :49:11. | |
2.2%, or 2.4%, but the Chancellor has banked it? They are not his | :49:12. | :49:17. | |
numbers, they are independent numbers he gets given. I think the | :49:18. | :49:20. | |
OBR has been at the gorgeous end of the spectrum. Their growth forecast | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
is still relatively cautious compared to other forecasters like | :49:25. | :49:32. | |
the anchoring them. Not for 18-19, 17-18. Well, if you look at | :49:33. | :49:39. | |
independent forecasters... Well, the city... Well, they have been at the | :49:40. | :49:44. | |
more cautious end. The main criticism from the Chancellor's | :49:45. | :49:47. | |
opponents has always been, you are cutting too much, there is no need | :49:48. | :49:52. | |
to run a surplus. The main accusation is that he is too | :49:53. | :50:00. | |
cautious and you don't need a ?10 billion surplus. So it's hard to | :50:01. | :50:03. | |
believe he's taking risks on that front. I want to ask you one | :50:04. | :50:07. | |
question, why did he make such a complete Horlicks of tax credits? | :50:08. | :50:17. | |
Well, we mustn't lose side of the party still making ?12 million of | :50:18. | :50:22. | |
savings... Why did he allow the Tory party to be branded as the workers | :50:23. | :50:27. | |
party, the next thing he does is smash the working poor? It's | :50:28. | :50:31. | |
difficult to save money. You've got to see this in the context of a | :50:32. | :50:35. | |
consolidation that is over ?100 billion. That has not been done in | :50:36. | :50:39. | |
this country in living memory. You're not going to get everything | :50:40. | :50:43. | |
right. In the last Parliament, probably lost in the midst of | :50:44. | :50:47. | |
political history now, we proposed after being on jobseeker's allowance | :50:48. | :50:53. | |
for a year it will be cut by 10%. It didn't go down well, we dropped it. | :50:54. | :50:56. | |
We dropped it. Would take child benefit away from higher rate | :50:57. | :51:00. | |
taxpayers, it didn't go down well, we changed the threshold from | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
42,000, to between 50,000 and 60,000. When you are making 100 | :51:06. | :51:09. | |
billion plus savings, you're not go to get everything right. He's | :51:10. | :51:12. | |
decided, when you have a problem, fix it properly so you don't have to | :51:13. | :51:16. | |
come back to down the line. He has to Dennis -- listened to Dennis | :51:17. | :51:25. | |
Healey. But one of the things that wasn't answered is why it took the | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
Chancellor so long to recognise the size of the problem. For weeks and | :51:29. | :51:32. | |
weeks, the Treasury were digging themselves further in. They were | :51:33. | :51:35. | |
determined there would be no mitigation. When he finally | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
realised, or perhaps it was pointed out to him by Number 10, just how | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
bad this might have been around the time just before the Lords defeat, | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
in the end he saw he would have to change course. But what someone | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
described to me as that moment, when he really decided he wanted to be | :51:51. | :51:54. | |
Prime Minister, rather than a successful Chancellor, and that is | :51:55. | :51:58. | |
when he doubled down. I think that is a little unfair. The thing about | :51:59. | :52:02. | |
Government, the policy is the policy until the policy changes. You can't | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
go hinting you might be changing. After today, what people are going | :52:08. | :52:10. | |
to remember is that he ditched the tax credit cuts. They are not going | :52:11. | :52:15. | |
to remember that he spent months with people speculate on. We will! | :52:16. | :52:21. | |
You will, Andrew... I suspect you are not representative of most | :52:22. | :52:28. | |
voters. That's an outrageous suggestion to make! What people will | :52:29. | :52:34. | |
get is that he ditched it and listened. There are some | :52:35. | :52:39. | |
counterintuitive issues here, raised by the OBR. One is that you have | :52:40. | :52:49. | |
growth remaining pretty robust, in a global economy, which is quite a lot | :52:50. | :52:53. | |
weaker than we thought it was going to be a few months ago. You are also | :52:54. | :52:58. | |
increasing the costs that are being imposed on the private sector and | :52:59. | :53:04. | |
yet expecting the private sector to increase its investment, not to lay | :53:05. | :53:10. | |
people off. Just intuitively, one wonders whether actually this is | :53:11. | :53:15. | |
going to work out quite as the OBR and the Chancellor assumes. I think | :53:16. | :53:19. | |
you've got to put what are relatively small tweaks today in the | :53:20. | :53:22. | |
context of the big picture. He still public spending, as a share of GDP, | :53:23. | :53:28. | |
down towards 36%. That is merely historical lows in recent history. A | :53:29. | :53:34. | |
quick question from you? Rupert, has the housing supply issue, which has | :53:35. | :53:38. | |
been a big boots in 2010, how much has that been an issue around the | :53:39. | :53:43. | |
house-building companies simply not having the energy or the desire to | :53:44. | :53:51. | |
deliver on housing? If you speak to executives in the house-building | :53:52. | :53:54. | |
sector, their profits are already up 40%. They feel full stretch to, they | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
have a massive skills shortage and they don't seem to be convinced, | :53:59. | :54:02. | |
although they will make warm noises about the announcement is the | :54:03. | :54:04. | |
Chancellor made, how much of a problem was that for you and how can | :54:05. | :54:09. | |
it be solved? It's a good question, it is one of the biggest economic | :54:10. | :54:12. | |
issues we face as a country. House-building rates are beginning | :54:13. | :54:15. | |
to pick up. There are two big factors, one is the one you're | :54:16. | :54:20. | |
talking about. One is planning, and I think it is a bit better and | :54:21. | :54:23. | |
planning is easier to get. There was an issue that if we go back to the | :54:24. | :54:27. | |
boom years, when more houses were being built, about half of the | :54:28. | :54:30. | |
houses were being built by the big guys that people are talking about. | :54:31. | :54:34. | |
There was a whole other sector in the market, the small builder that | :54:35. | :54:38. | |
would build three or four, sell them, and move on and build another | :54:39. | :54:41. | |
one, a lot of them got wiped out or they are still in debt and the banks | :54:42. | :54:52. | |
won't lend to them. Skills shortage is a huge issue. It has been since I | :54:53. | :54:55. | |
was in short trousers. Do getting into politics after this? | :54:56. | :55:01. | |
I'm very happy doing what I am doing. | :55:02. | :55:04. | |
I'm very happy doing what I am learned not to answer questions, you | :55:05. | :55:06. | |
should try learned not to answer questions, you | :55:07. | :55:12. | |
doing. Thank you for being with us. Enough comment from Westminster, | :55:13. | :55:15. | |
let's go back to Birmingham and Jo Coburn. | :55:16. | :55:18. | |
So much to chew over and digest after the Autumn Statement on | :55:19. | :55:25. | |
Spending Review. The improved state of public finances has given George | :55:26. | :55:28. | |
Osborne a little more wriggle room, hence he announced he would not go | :55:29. | :55:30. | |
ahead with some big planned hence he announced he would not go | :55:31. | :55:35. | |
be known as the building Chancellor, not just the cutting | :55:36. | :55:38. | |
Chancellor. With that in mind, my guest here, the Conservative leader | :55:39. | :55:41. | |
of Solihull Council, Bobsleigh. guest here, the Conservative leader | :55:42. | :55:46. | |
now we have the Midlands Engine, is it as good as it sounds? The new | :55:47. | :55:51. | |
unlocks it as good as it sounds? The new | :55:52. | :55:59. | |
investment. He is devolving the skills Budget, and there are other | :56:00. | :56:08. | |
funds available for the future. It will transfer into real growth in | :56:09. | :56:09. | |
this region? ?36.5 million a will transfer into real growth in | :56:10. | :56:19. | |
utilise to create The big headline, the thing he faced | :56:20. | :56:30. | |
most opposition to was the cuts to tax credits. He says they are not | :56:31. | :56:34. | |
going to go ahead, but Labour have already said it is not a fool of | :56:35. | :56:39. | |
their reversal of the planned cuts. Is that how you see it as well? Many | :56:40. | :56:45. | |
working families would have struggled to cope with a cut to tax | :56:46. | :56:50. | |
credits, it is welcome news that is to be avoided. Working families will | :56:51. | :56:58. | |
be relieved to hear that. It is important that people prepare for | :56:59. | :57:08. | |
the future. We already see people struggling with debt, balancing | :57:09. | :57:12. | |
bells and childcare. If you have worries about your finances or | :57:13. | :57:16. | |
questions, come to court to citizens advice, get advice and we will help | :57:17. | :57:19. | |
you think things through. Was your first impression that these families | :57:20. | :57:28. | |
will now have more time for transition in the hope that they | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
will get higher wages? Absolutely, it is important that people have | :57:34. | :57:36. | |
time to prepare and come to citizens advice to help them do that. One of | :57:37. | :57:42. | |
the other big announcements is the councils councils will be allowed to | :57:43. | :57:46. | |
put on council tax, up to 2%, as long as it is hypothecated | :57:47. | :57:49. | |
specifically for social care. At higher council tax bills, what will | :57:50. | :57:56. | |
that mean for your customers? Council tax issues is one of the | :57:57. | :58:00. | |
biggest issues we help people with at citizens advice. It's so people | :58:01. | :58:03. | |
can have advice to manage those changes. For shoppers, just weeks | :58:04. | :58:09. | |
before Christmas, they will be thinking about the money in their | :58:10. | :58:12. | |
back pocket and how it is going to affect their personal finances. One | :58:13. | :58:17. | |
of the big announcements was also about the state pension. With us is | :58:18. | :58:20. | |
our personal finance expert, Danny Shaw. Pensions are going to go up? | :58:21. | :58:28. | |
We knew this, there wasn't a lot in the Autumn Statement, something we | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
didn't know, we had already worked out how much the state pension was | :58:33. | :58:37. | |
going to be, because of the triple lock. We knew, as soon as the | :58:38. | :58:40. | |
inflation and earning figures came out, how much that was going to be. | :58:41. | :58:46. | |
It is going up by ?3.35, up to ?119.30. That is what they call the | :58:47. | :58:56. | |
old state pension, the one before the April 2016 changes. The key | :58:57. | :58:59. | |
thing that is new, which we know because George Osborne announced it | :59:00. | :59:03. | |
for the first time, this new state pension, the flat rate pension, not | :59:04. | :59:08. | |
flat rate when you look at the nitty-gritty of it, it will be | :59:09. | :59:13. | |
?135.65. George Osborne has always said it would be above the level of | :59:14. | :59:18. | |
pension credit, under the old system. It is a measly 5p. He has | :59:19. | :59:24. | |
kept his promise, but not by a great deal. We will leave it there, keep | :59:25. | :59:30. | |
your questions coming in and we will try to get some of those the next | :59:31. | :59:35. | |
time we come on. Thanks, as they were saying in | :59:36. | :59:38. | |
Birmingham, the state pension is going up to over ?119. If you were | :59:39. | :59:44. | |
worried about losing tax credits as a result of the July Budget, that | :59:45. | :59:54. | |
will now not happen. You will not see a reduction in welfare until | :59:55. | :59:58. | |
Universal Credit comes in. If you are worried that the Government come | :59:59. | :00:01. | |
at a time of heightened security threat, was going to cut police | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
numbers further than the Chancellor said, he is not going to do so. | :00:06. | :00:09. | |
Those are some of the issues that affect everybody in the country, | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
rather than just a great number crunching. The number crunching is | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
important, because it tells us whether or not the Chancellor's | :00:18. | :00:37. | |
predictions are credible. We are puzzled by how the Chancellor, | :00:38. | :00:39. | |
determined to get a surplus by the end of the Parliament, has so much | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
money to do so many things. Is it credible? He has got a bit lucky | :00:44. | :00:55. | |
because he will be spending less on debt increase. He has increased | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
taxes reasonably significantly. There is a 3 billion impost on | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
business to pay for the new apprentice ship. Was it in the | :01:04. | :01:09. | |
Labour manifesto? I do know. I think it might have been! Carry on. It was | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
not in the figures in July. There are increases council tax as well. | :01:16. | :01:23. | |
He has increased taxes a bit and he is going to use most of that money | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
to damp down the cuts in spending. Because those cuts and spending were | :01:30. | :01:36. | |
on a relatively limited part of government, the effect of a bit of | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
extra money is to significantly reduce the overall level of cuts. | :01:42. | :01:47. | |
But we knew, everyone is assuming the economy will grow by roughly | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
2.5% a year until the end of the decade, that is the assumption the | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
projections are based on, we knew that interest rates were staying low | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
for another while yet and that would affect the debt interest, the | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
service on the national debt that he had to pay. We know that if an | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
economy is growing there is a certain buoyancy at some stage in | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
tax revenues. So if we knew all that, why does all this come as a | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
surprise? Therein lies the risk. The changes in the OBR's forecast are | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
pretty small. They are five years out in terms of tax revenue. They | :02:26. | :02:32. | |
are genuinely small changes. The Chancellor has used most of those | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
changes essentially to add a bit to the spending, to reduce the spending | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
cuts he otherwise would have done. The risk for him, if that turns a | :02:43. | :02:45. | |
little bit again as they may well do, he will either have to do more | :02:46. | :02:50. | |
in terms of tax increases or go back to those departments and cut them | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
further. Remember in the last Parliament, when things looked | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
worse, he did not increase spending cuts to meet his target. This time, | :02:59. | :03:02. | |
when things are looking a bit better, he is not using that to have | :03:03. | :03:06. | |
a bigger surplus or have tax cuts, he is using it to protect public | :03:07. | :03:17. | |
services. This is the Chancellor's third Budget this year. We had the | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
March budget, the July Budget and now the autumn Spending Review. If | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
it is a 27 billion difference in the underlying improvement in revenues | :03:27. | :03:30. | |
in July of this year and mid-November when this was put | :03:31. | :03:36. | |
together, he probably should have a Budget of every three months now if | :03:37. | :03:43. | |
the figures are so wrong! Please, don't wish for such a thing! 27 | :03:44. | :03:46. | |
billion is one of the silly numbers. It has accumulated over three or | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
four years will stop it only comes up to four or 5 billion at the end, | :03:52. | :03:57. | |
plus the has about 6 billion of tax increases at the end. The reason it | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
makes such a big difference is that he is actually only playing with | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
quite a small bit of public spending. The whole of welfare is | :04:08. | :04:13. | |
separate. Health, MOD and so on. Why did you not see this coming? We | :04:14. | :04:19. | |
don't do anything unless you tell us. We have always said there is a | :04:20. | :04:25. | |
lot of risk around. There is gearing between the small amount of spending | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
and small changes on borrowing and interest rates which may result. If | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
you look at the numbers, there are still big cuts in departments. There | :04:35. | :04:40. | |
is a 15% cut for justice. There are big cuts day-to-day spending for | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
transport. There is 12 billion of cuts for the unprotected | :04:47. | :04:49. | |
departments, which is still a big number. It is a big and substantial | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
additional cut. It is not quite as big as it would have been on the | :04:53. | :04:57. | |
July budget numbers, because the Chancellor has decided to use the | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
extra money he has, not to cut taxes or to increase the surplus at the | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
end, but to protect public services. To that extent, in a way, | :05:06. | :05:14. | |
given the political strategy was to move the Conservatives on to the | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
centre ground, as they saw Labour moving to the left, and there were a | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
lot of things in the July budget which had been in the Labour | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
manifesto, this budget, including the U-turns on tax credits and | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
police numbers, is a kind of continuation of that strategy? It | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
certainly using the money not to do the very conservative things like | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
cut taxes and increased spending. He has used it to increase spending. On | :05:39. | :05:43. | |
the tax credit point, it is terribly important to be clear that he has | :05:44. | :06:08. | |
changed nothing in the long run. In the long run, the cuts to Universal | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
Credit that were announced in the July budget, which are of a similar | :06:12. | :06:14. | |
scale to the cuts in the tax credits will come in. In the long run, he is | :06:15. | :06:17. | |
saving just as much and politically, he has got through that and that is | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
through... It is a matter of time and phasing. To summarise, the kind | :06:21. | :06:22. | |
of cuts that were envisaged in the July tax credit statement, do | :06:23. | :06:24. | |
eventually come down in a different way by the time Universal Credit | :06:25. | :06:27. | |
comes in? People on tax credits should realise that? No one will | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
face the tax losses they will face. Even as you go on to Universal | :06:31. | :06:32. | |
Credit, you are protected relative to what you are on. In the long run, | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
every new claimant will get the new lower amount. Mr Osborne is | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
achieving what he wants to achieve on the welfare state which is in the | :06:40. | :06:46. | |
long run... He has postponed it. What point would you like to make, | :06:47. | :06:53. | |
Robert? I think if you look at all the managed government spending, it | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
is now flat in real terms adjusted for inflation throughout Parliament, | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
in other words, actually, this is not a government which is any longer | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
cutting. This is probably the moment when one can say austerity, in the | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
extreme form certainly, is over. Within that, because there are a | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
number of departments which get useful increases, so defence up 2.3% | :07:19. | :07:25. | |
adjusting for inflation, that is reasonable increase. Health, up a | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
little bit more 3.3% adjusting for inflation, because of these | :07:31. | :07:35. | |
protected departments, there are reasonably big cuts elsewhere. And | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
one should not underestimate it, this will be painful for those who | :07:39. | :07:45. | |
depend on the services provided by those departments, but this is not | :07:46. | :07:47. | |
the kind of Armageddon those departments, but this is not | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
were talking about before those departments, but this is not | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
shift. Laura, do we see this budget, now that Paul | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
shift. Laura, do we see this budget, cut taxes, to increase public | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
spending, not to cut the police, is it a continuation of the | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
Chancellor's strategy to put his tanks on the centre ground? | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
Chancellor's strategy to put his no question about it. Dick Lee after | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
George Osborne's speech at the conference, that was an attempt to | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
roll his tanks onto the lawn -- particularly after George Osborne's | :08:28. | :08:33. | |
speech. We four years away from a general election with the Labour | :08:34. | :08:36. | |
opposition who have not found a groove yet. I think that may well | :08:37. | :08:44. | |
all be part of the story today. We have so much to pack in, even in | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
four hours, I have to be ruthless. Paul Johnson, we look forward to | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
seeing you. The press conference tomorrow? Of course. Excellent. One | :08:57. | :09:11. | |
of the tomorrow? Of course. Excellent. One | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
announcement was he decided there would be no further cuts to police | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
budgets in England and Wales. There has been a meeting of chief | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
constables and an elected police and crime commission is taking place in | :09:27. | :09:27. | |
Manchester Town Hall today. This was a very unexpected | :09:28. | :09:47. | |
announcement. We were all expecting cuts of 2225% in England and Wales. | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
At the Chancellor would pull a rabbit out of the hat to soften the | :09:52. | :09:59. | |
blow. Instead, he said no cuts to policing until 2020. To join me, | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
first of all Kevin Hurley, the police and crime commission for | :10:05. | :10:07. | |
Surrey. You were in the hall watching the announcement. What was | :10:08. | :10:14. | |
the response? It was almost euphoria if your team had scored a goal. We | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
should remember we were already in the process of implementing cuts. So | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
all is not well in the world. We will see further reductions in | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
policing on the earlier cuts, but this is good news. Fair play on the | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
Chancellor. He has listened and we are happy with what has happened so | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
far. Can you explain why you have to make further cuts? Should it not | :10:40. | :10:48. | |
stop in 2016? No, because the budgets are decided upstream. Some | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
forces will be significant. In Surrey, it is not so bad. The good | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
news we are hearing is the Chancellor will also allow us to | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
take some extra money on the council tax precept for police, which means | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
some forces like mine in view wealthier south can be completely | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
cosseted from all of this. It will not be quite as good in the North. | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
Professor Steve Davis, what do you think has brought about this shift | :11:18. | :11:22. | |
in George Osborne's thinking? I think he has got better than | :11:23. | :11:25. | |
expected figures for the annual growth rates. He thinks the higher | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
tax receipts will save him the political pain of having to make | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
such large cuts. Just to add something to what Kevin said, there | :11:36. | :11:45. | |
was a 31% real increase in spending between 2001 and 2010, the cuts we | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
have now have taken us back to where we were in 2003 and 2004. I do not | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
remember there being a collapse in policing at that time. If the | :11:57. | :12:01. | |
expected cuts had taken place it would take us back to where wearing | :12:02. | :12:14. | |
2001. They will be changing a lot of plans but there are some things | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
which have already been put through. They should think about how they | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
might reorganise the way they work, provide policing perhaps in | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
different ways. Do we really need 43 police forces, for example? Why do | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
we have each police force buying its own equipment and own kit? It makes | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
a lot of sense to do that nationally. You should always be | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
thinking about that. Private-sector businesses typically look to reduce | :12:41. | :12:45. | |
their costs by 4% every year. There is no why people in the public | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
sector should not also look to spend money more effectively. A final word | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
for Kevin. News about extra funding for firearms capabilities? That is | :12:56. | :13:04. | |
good news. But I share the point, 43 police forces is a silly business | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
model. I would like to be the first police and crime commission to be | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
redundant. I don't patrol the beat, other people do. If George Osborne | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
and Theresa May are listening, I'm sure they will take note for the | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
next round of budget cuts and budget plans. That is the view from | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
Manchester. Thank you, Danny, that is the first | :13:28. | :13:35. | |
voluntary redundancy offer we have had! Let's go to Jane Hill. | :13:36. | :13:44. | |
Thank you. Baroness Susan Kramer is with me and Douglas Carswell, | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
Ukip's MP. We were just listening to that interesting segment and you | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
made some strident point about what is going on here. On the face of it, | :13:54. | :13:59. | |
positive of course, no cuts to the police in England and Wales. George | :14:00. | :14:03. | |
has said no cuts to the police budget, but in the small print we | :14:04. | :14:08. | |
will see a massive increase in the police precept. The Government in | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
Whitehall will not get blamed for that but local Police and Crime | :14:13. | :14:15. | |
Commissioners will get it in the net. George has been clever in | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
shifting responsibility to find finance for the police. Clever | :14:22. | :14:26. | |
politics? It is good politics. I am not sure it is great for the | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
country. We need a Chancellor who understands what we need at this | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
time. This is the first year that the Home Office budget will be less | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
than the overseas aid budget. I do not think it is clever policy at | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
all. This will be really tough on deprived communities. There will be | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
a charge turning up to pay for the police, a charge turning up to pay | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
for old people, that is the social care budget, and it will fall | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
hardest on the deprived communities. At the same time, they | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
will get less money on their business rates if they are deprived | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
communities. If you are Kensington and Chelsea you can go home laughing | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
but if you are deprived community you got whacked today. There is more | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
pressure and responsibility put on local councils? I worry about the | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
bus network as well. We just heard the central Department for transport | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
will have its operational budget slashed. Does that mean paying for | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
buses outside the big cities, that that will all fall on councils as | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
well? I think there are a lot of issues we need to be worried about. | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
I think she is basically right. If I could sum it up, this is a Blairite | :15:39. | :15:46. | |
Budget. The Labour Party has lurched so to the extreme left, it has | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
created the space for a Blairite Budget. Like the Blairite budgets of | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
the past, it sounds a lot better than it turns out to be. There is a | :15:56. | :15:59. | |
lot in the small print I think we are going to find quite unpalatable. | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
Susan, do you understand how he has done it? Still talking about welfare | :16:04. | :16:08. | |
cuts, and yet a U-turn on tax credits, which I assume, as a | :16:09. | :16:11. | |
Liberal Democrat, makes you very happy? We still have ?12 billion in | :16:12. | :16:20. | |
welfare cuts, so it is coming. There has been some nudging about what is | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
going to come in in terms of tax receipts and borrowing to offset | :16:24. | :16:25. | |
some of the changes. We still have ?12 billion in cuts to welfare. I'm | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
delighted he stop the cuts to tax credits forwarding families. One of | :16:31. | :16:34. | |
the ironies is, had George Osborne been a House of Lords, he would have | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
voted for the Democrat motion to absolutely kill those cuts in tax | :16:39. | :16:41. | |
credits stone dead. He would not have voted with the Labour Party or | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
the Conservatives. Interesting. Susan Kramer and Douglas Carswell, | :16:47. | :16:47. | |
thank you for your reactions. It looks like the sun has come out | :16:48. | :16:58. | |
there. We are always kept in the dark, we never know what is | :16:59. | :17:00. | |
happening. We were grateful for that feature. A moment ago, we went | :17:01. | :17:07. | |
through a number of issues that came up in the Budget. Let's go through | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
them again. Here are the main measures announced in the Autumn | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
Statement and Spending Review. Tax credits, announced only in the July | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
post-election Budget, they have been cancelled in their entirety. There | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
will still be Universal Credit coming in which will embody some of | :17:30. | :17:32. | |
what the tax credit cuts had involved. We will talk about that in | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
a moment. There will be no cuts to the police Budget in England and | :17:38. | :17:43. | |
Wales. It was thought the Chancellor was under pressure to reduce the | :17:44. | :17:47. | |
cuts he was planning. The result is that there are no cuts at all. I | :17:48. | :17:50. | |
think the word Paris comes to mind when you look at that. NHS Budget in | :17:51. | :18:03. | |
England will rise, and the consequent rises for the help | :18:04. | :18:10. | |
budgets in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well. As local | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
authorities are squeezed, in one of their main roles in the community, | :18:15. | :18:17. | |
to provide social care, as that money gets squeezed there will be | :18:18. | :18:22. | |
allowed to increase council tax by 2% to pay for social care. And only | :18:23. | :18:31. | |
social care, too. We have a ?10 billion increase for education and | :18:32. | :18:34. | |
childcare. That is through the life of the Parliament, over a 4-5 year | :18:35. | :18:39. | |
period. There is an apprenticeship levy set at 0.5% of the employer's | :18:40. | :18:47. | |
wage bill. This is mainly designed for major employers, to encourage | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
them to do more to give people apprenticeship some skills. If they | :18:51. | :18:53. | |
do that, they get some of that levy back. It's not a new idea, it was | :18:54. | :18:59. | |
introduced by the Wilson government in the 1960s. There it is, round | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
again. 400,000 new homes, the story that was leaked overnight to the | :19:06. | :19:14. | |
broadcasters, 400,000 new homes. The Government getting into the property | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
development business. It seems to have a pot of money of about ?7 | :19:18. | :19:27. | |
billion to be able to do it. Capital spending on transport is to rise by | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
50%, by the end of this decade, even as the administrative bill for the | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
transport Department is cut. We spoke a little while ago to the | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
former advisor for George Osborne, giving his first interview on | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
television. We are joined by another former adviser, Matt Hancock, | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
television. We are joined by another definitely not his first TV | :19:52. | :19:53. | |
interview and probably will not be his last | :19:54. | :19:56. | |
interview and probably will not be judge of that! A Minister | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
interview and probably will not be Department of honesty and admit that | :20:02. | :20:03. | |
if it hadn't been for the attacks in Paris, we would not be seeing a | :20:04. | :20:09. | |
freeze in any further cuts to the police Budget? The Spending Review | :20:10. | :20:14. | |
has been in the planning for several months, I don't know exactly when | :20:15. | :20:16. | |
the decision was taken. Crucially, the whole purpose of the Spending | :20:17. | :20:23. | |
the decision was taken. Crucially, Review is centred around national | :20:24. | :20:27. | |
the decision was taken. Crucially, goes back to the manifesto. We | :20:28. | :20:30. | |
the decision was taken. Crucially, out the manifesto, it was about | :20:31. | :20:30. | |
national and out the manifesto, it was about | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
National Security includes all of the defence items we outlined | :20:34. | :20:35. | |
earlier this week. It is the defence items we outlined | :20:36. | :20:41. | |
safety closer to home. Before the defence items we outlined | :20:42. | :20:44. | |
Paris, the Home Secretary was digging in his heels to try to avoid | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
cuts to police budgets. The Treasury was pushing them to come up with | :20:50. | :20:54. | |
more for the departmental cuts. Now there are to be no cuts. What | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
happened in between? It is Paris. It would seem crazy, | :21:00. | :21:01. | |
happened in between? It is Paris. It think, for a Conservative | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
government, or any government, to proceed with cuts to the police | :21:06. | :21:08. | |
Budget beyond what you have introduced? That is the truth of the | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
situation? I don't know exactly when the decision was taken. The question | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
is, what do you do over a four year Spending Review? How do you spend | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
the ?4 trillion worth of taxpayer money? As national security and | :21:24. | :21:30. | |
economic security are the bedrock of what we feel that we were elected | :21:31. | :21:33. | |
on, I think it is perfectly reasonable to make sure the police | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
are protected. At a time when this country faces the greatest terrorist | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
threat in its history, terrorist threat, not the greatest threat, the | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
Nazis beat that one, but the greatest terrorist threat, bigger | :21:47. | :21:51. | |
even than the 30 year terrorist threat from the IRA, in what way | :21:52. | :21:54. | |
does it make sense for the overseas aid Budget to be bigger than the | :21:55. | :21:57. | |
Home Office Budget, as Douglas Carswell just said? Well, hold on, | :21:58. | :22:01. | |
look at what we are going to be doing with the aid Budget. Of | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
course, you have to be working right around the world. We have a moral | :22:05. | :22:11. | |
obligation to the world's poor. We also redirecting the aid Budget to | :22:12. | :22:21. | |
support those on Europe's borders. It might work down the road, but you | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
have been following the news in Paris and Belgium, you will be aware | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
that a lot of bad guys are already here. Overseas aid is for future | :22:29. | :22:36. | |
years, they are here or heading here now, and yet you are spending more | :22:37. | :22:39. | |
on overseas aid and you are on the Home Office, does that make sense? | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
The whole package makes sense. We are protecting the police budget, | :22:45. | :22:51. | |
increasingly counterterror element of the budget by 20%. We are | :22:52. | :22:56. | |
increasing conventional defence with the defence review. I'm talking | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
about the terrorist threat. Crucially, we are making sure when | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
we spend aid money we are spending it at source, try to stop the | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
terrorist threat that source. But my point is that these people, that | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
might stop them... My point is that might stop them coming in five | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
years' time, what a couple of hundred million will do in Somalia, | :23:19. | :23:25. | |
Sudan Syria is another matter, I'm talking about the ones that are | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
already here. We need to tackle both, you are absolutely right. We | :23:30. | :23:35. | |
had to support police domestic, we have to support counterterrorism | :23:36. | :23:38. | |
officers and agencies, but we also have to do everything we can to stop | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
failed states and to make sure that, in those refugee camps, people do | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
not come here with the risk attached, especially if foreign | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
fighters come, of bringing terrorism with them. I think an overall | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
package that includes protection at home and trying to support failed | :23:58. | :24:02. | |
states on Europe's borders makes sense. You have to look at the whole | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
thing as a package. What kind of government comes up with a major | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
change to tax credit in July and then abandons it in November? Well, | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
we've got an improved set of forecasts, these forecasts said | :24:17. | :24:21. | |
there was ?27 billion extra, and that allows us to bring the debt | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
down faster than we were planning to in the July Budget, and also to | :24:28. | :24:30. | |
spend more on capital infrastructure, which is important, | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
I think he would probably agree. Where you wrong to introduce them in | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
the first place? I thought they were sensible measures. Why are you not | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
proceeding with them? Obviously we lost in the House of Lords. You | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
could have gone back. The difference between then and now, in the new | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
forecasts, the OBR, who are independent, said they expect ?27 | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
billion extra. I think it is a reasonable use of some of that money | :24:57. | :24:58. | |
to mitigate the impact of the change. The key point is this, on | :24:59. | :25:05. | |
benefits, we were elected on a Monday to find ?12 billion worth of | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
benefits savings. -- on a mandate. You never told us what they would | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
be. We didn't specifically say what they would be. We are going to meet | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
the 12 billion, but do it in a different way to how we set out at | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
the previous Budget. But we've got the money to do it. Can we stay in | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
the Department Of Honesty and be clear that although the tax credit | :25:27. | :25:30. | |
cuts are not going to get people now, when Universal Credit comes in, | :25:31. | :25:33. | |
elements of what you were planning to do in tax credits will be | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
introduced, you will limit the child element to two children from April | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
17, you will abolish the family element in tax credits with ?425 per | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
year. This is some pain for the poorest families postponed, not | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
eliminated? That's not quite right, we are still making the ?12 billion | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
worth of savings that we said we would in the manifesto. We are | :25:59. | :26:01. | |
meeting the ?10 billion surplus by the end of the Parliament we set out | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
in July. The difference is, when people move on to Universal Credit, | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
unless their circumstances change they are protected and so they do | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
not lose cash, in cash terms. That means that you can make this | :26:16. | :26:22. | |
transition in a far more sensible way, and make sure that we get the | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
savings, the benefits of the spending by the end of the | :26:28. | :26:29. | |
Parliament that are just as big as we planned. And, crucially, it is | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
delivering on what we promised in the manifesto. We are up against it, | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
not just in terms of time, but we have to deal parts of the great BBC | :26:39. | :26:43. | |
multifarious empire that we are broadcasting to. It's interesting | :26:44. | :26:52. | |
when you go to the detail, an accountancy firm has come up with | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
analysis of what it means, this is actually a tax-raising Autumn | :26:57. | :26:59. | |
Statement, the tax-raising on businesses. You have the | :27:00. | :27:02. | |
apprenticeship levy, you have the Stamp Duty increase that we have | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
spoken about. You also have a lot of transference of grants for research | :27:08. | :27:12. | |
and development support being changed into loans. But they are cut | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
in corporation tax? They are, but when you go to the detail, I'm | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
looking at the business department, the Government will reduce the | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
teaching grant by ?120 million. They are changing student maintenance | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
grants to loans. There are a lot of cuts that are small scale, there | :27:30. | :27:33. | |
will be overwhelmed by the amounts on tax credits, by the announcements | :27:34. | :27:39. | |
on security, but in here is a lot of tax-raising power that actually | :27:40. | :27:42. | |
means that this is not a giveaway Autumn Statement in the slightest, | :27:43. | :27:45. | |
but is raising large amounts of money, as well as all of the | :27:46. | :27:51. | |
issues. What other bits are hidden in the small print? Loads and loads | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
of changes, because we are reforming the way the stage works. You have | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
hidden loads of changes in the small print? No, the Chancellor set out | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
the big things in the statement, then we published the book. On the | :28:04. | :28:10. | |
business changes, the Chancellor said that there is a 17% saving in | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
the business Department. Of course there is. There do have to be | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
savings. They are not as big, about half as big as the last Parliament, | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
but there are savings. You spend most of the last Parliament | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
attacking Labour for being far too optimistic in forecasting rises in | :28:28. | :28:30. | |
tax revenues when it was in power and then spending on the back of | :28:31. | :28:34. | |
that. Some would say there is a shift, some would describe it as a | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
bit of hypocrisy that here we have a Chancellor that always said he is | :28:40. | :28:46. | |
conservative, banking on these huge forecasts in increases in tax | :28:47. | :28:53. | |
revenues, which may be illusory. The last figures, which were terrible | :28:54. | :28:59. | |
for that, were not included in the figures. This is the independent | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
Office for Budget Responsibility, I'm glad that politicians no longer | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
do it themselves and it is done independently by experts. Thank you, | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
Matthew Hancock, probably not your last interview. We are here on BBC | :29:15. | :29:20. | |
Two until 3:30pm. It is time to say goodbye to viewers on the BBC News | :29:21. | :29:21. | |
Channel. Now the Government has promised to | :29:22. | :29:24. | |
continue to protect the English NHS budget, but that doesn't mean there | :29:25. | :29:27. | |
aren't still tough times ahead Our health editor Hugh Pym | :29:28. | :29:29. | |
is outside UCLH in London. Yes, Andrew, we learned a lot about | :29:30. | :29:49. | |
the funding for the NHS in England yesterday, with quite a significant | :29:50. | :29:53. | |
increase for next year, and then going through to 2020. The | :29:54. | :29:58. | |
settlements for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland will become clearer | :29:59. | :30:01. | |
with the detail of the Spending Review documents. Today we have also | :30:02. | :30:04. | |
learned that there will be cuts in other areas of health. There will be | :30:05. | :30:06. | |
reductions in public health, other areas of health. There will be | :30:07. | :30:09. | |
local authorities, and student nurses and midwives will have to | :30:10. | :30:15. | |
start paying tuition fees and for their own maintenance, and borrow | :30:16. | :30:21. | |
money. That actually could result in more training places. I am joined | :30:22. | :30:24. | |
here at UCLH by Andrew Haldenby from the think-tank Reform, and Rob | :30:25. | :30:28. | |
Webster of the NHS Federation. What do you make the overall picture? I | :30:29. | :30:39. | |
think the Chancellor has taken a gamble. He will try and make the NHS | :30:40. | :30:45. | |
more productive to cope with tighter money later on. I am not confident | :30:46. | :30:49. | |
that the NHS will become more efficient and productive in order to | :30:50. | :30:54. | |
help in the later years of the parliament. Efficiency savings are | :30:55. | :30:57. | |
still needed and we have not heard a lot more detail on that at all, have | :30:58. | :31:03. | |
we? The Chancellor's big pitch today was more money. I think the NHS | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
needs more productivity and more reform. Our work indicates that the | :31:08. | :31:19. | |
progress on that is slow. Rob Webster, what do you make about the | :31:20. | :31:22. | |
specific issue of student nurses and midwives having to pay for their own | :31:23. | :31:25. | |
tuition? Will that deter people? The universities have been lobbying for | :31:26. | :31:26. | |
more time to open this up. universities have been lobbying for | :31:27. | :31:34. | |
workforce which is committed to the NHS as it goes through this change | :31:35. | :31:41. | |
is a fundamental issue for the future. We should welcome the | :31:42. | :31:44. | |
upfront investment to help us do that. It does not make the need for | :31:45. | :31:51. | |
that to go away though. Big change is coming over the next five years. | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
Do you think public health budgets being cut will make it harder for | :31:57. | :32:02. | |
the NHS? Both public health and social care remain a concern for us. | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
A good shiny NHS cog in a broken machine will not work for patients. | :32:07. | :32:15. | |
We need to focus on prevention will stop fundamentally, we need to | :32:16. | :32:16. | |
ensure that social care is stop fundamentally, we need to | :32:17. | :32:19. | |
because older people need joined up services, whether it is their care | :32:20. | :32:23. | |
needs or their health needs. Quick word on the social care issue. What | :32:24. | :32:28. | |
have we learned today? The Government is worried about social | :32:29. | :32:33. | |
care. It will let governments raise taxes to pay more for social care. | :32:34. | :32:37. | |
It is not changing the services. A bit of extra money is not a | :32:38. | :32:43. | |
long-term solution. There were no long-term solutions. Thank you both | :32:44. | :32:48. | |
at UCL eight in central London, thank you for joining us. Back to | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
you, Andrew -- UCLH. thank you for joining us. Back to | :32:53. | :32:57. | |
The health service will be going over all that Frey carefully. It is | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
a lot of money for the health service but it is still under huge | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
pressure. Social care we see as part of our overall health service. Local | :33:05. | :33:12. | |
authorities will have some tax leeway. I guess the problem is, the | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
places where social care is most needed to be provided by the state, | :33:18. | :33:19. | |
the inner cities, are probably the needed to be provided by the state, | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
places where a 2% rise on council tax does not get you very much. This | :33:25. | :33:29. | |
is the sort of thing which puts the fear of God into places like | :33:30. | :33:35. | |
Liverpool where I was recently. It is a very interesting line in here | :33:36. | :33:39. | |
which shows that the transfer from central government to local | :33:40. | :33:45. | |
authorities is shrinking to almost nothing. At the moment, it is more | :33:46. | :33:53. | |
than ?11 billion. It jinxed almost ?5 billion over the course of the | :33:54. | :33:57. | |
parliament, because one of the Chancellor's big ideas is to | :33:58. | :34:02. | |
transfer much more revenue raising to the local authorities themselves, | :34:03. | :34:07. | |
which is brilliant, if you are in a wealthy constituency, or in a | :34:08. | :34:13. | |
wealthy local authority, but it is a disaster if you have got not support | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
people. I think we are at the beginning of a fairly big debate on | :34:19. | :34:21. | |
this. There are lots of people across the political spectrum who | :34:22. | :34:26. | |
think devolution of powers is a good thing in principle, because you want | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
local people to connect much more closely with local politicians and | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
local services, but if it means a massively widening gap between | :34:38. | :34:40. | |
services available in a poor region compared to a rich region, then | :34:41. | :34:44. | |
there are going to be a lot of very unhappy people out there. It is a | :34:45. | :34:49. | |
very interesting big idea, but it could be very painful and parts of | :34:50. | :34:53. | |
the country and there may be parts of the country which the Tories are | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
just writing off as places that could ever win. | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
I have just been told we have to go to College Green. Let's go back to | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
College Green where it is not Jane Hill, it is me, I have to do | :35:08. | :35:15. | |
everything on this programme! Let's go to Leanne Wood, the head of Plaid | :35:16. | :35:21. | |
Cymru. Good to see you. The Welsh block ground is going to go up, the | :35:22. | :35:26. | |
Chancellor has introduced a new funding formula for Wales and you | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
will be able to have your own income tax if you want it, you must be over | :35:30. | :35:35. | |
the moon with this? No, I am not! There are some snippets of good news | :35:36. | :35:39. | |
in the announcement today but overall I think people are Wales | :35:40. | :35:44. | |
will feel worse off as a result. The impact potentially on local | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
government and all of those areas that are not health risks, in some | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
cases, some of our local services collapsing altogether, and of | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
course, household budgets are likely to take a squeeze, despite the | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
announcement on tax credits, because what we don't know is the impact on | :36:02. | :36:05. | |
other benefits like housing benefit and that will hit the same people. | :36:06. | :36:12. | |
So I am not feeling joyful about this announcement today. I would | :36:13. | :36:16. | |
like to have seen a reverse of the cuts and investment in | :36:17. | :36:18. | |
infrastructure and investment in people. Caroline Lucas, I don't | :36:19. | :36:24. | |
think you will be over the moon about anything! That is quite | :36:25. | :36:31. | |
unfair! For me, I think it is a major missed opportunity. We are a | :36:32. | :36:34. | |
few days before the Paris climate talks and I would love to have seen | :36:35. | :36:38. | |
a massive investment in energy efficiency and home insulation, not | :36:39. | :36:43. | |
just because that will get our climate emissions down, but it will | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
tackle fuel poverty and people who cannot afford to keep their houses | :36:48. | :36:50. | |
warms and it would have created thousands of jobs as well. It is a | :36:51. | :36:56. | |
real wasted opportunity that he has not done it. Leanne Wood, you have | :36:57. | :37:01. | |
the Welsh Assembly elections coming up, the Greens could do well and | :37:02. | :37:05. | |
Plaid Cymru, if you had your own income tax powers in Wales, what | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
would you make of the basic interest rate and the top rate. I am not in a | :37:10. | :37:14. | |
point to give you that information at this point in time. We have not | :37:15. | :37:21. | |
got the power yet. You must have thought about it and dreamt of it. | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
And our priority would be to maximise the amount of money in the | :37:27. | :37:32. | |
Budget. Would you increased tax? There are different rates of tax. We | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
would look at what we want to do with each of those. Regardless of | :37:37. | :37:41. | |
even if we kept the tax rates as they are, the fact that you are | :37:42. | :37:45. | |
investing in job creation and then able to realise the benefits from | :37:46. | :37:52. | |
that is the purpose of having income tax powers. Would you like the Welsh | :37:53. | :37:58. | |
Assembly to increase tax, Caroline Lucas? Our Wales Green Party is | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
independent and it is up to them but the Green Party is not shy on saying | :38:04. | :38:06. | |
people on higher incomes should pay more tax. Meanwhile, talking about | :38:07. | :38:12. | |
this Autumn Statement right now, what we are concerned about is the | :38:13. | :38:19. | |
way that it is really falling on the way the vulnerable people are making | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
those cuts. In Brighton and there are more cuts to children's centres | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
and some of the real resources people depend on, and at the same | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
time, we are seeing a really dismissive attitude to nurses in the | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
NHS. On the one hand, George Osborne is trying to pretend this is | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
something positive about ensuring they can have loans, but actually, | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
they are cutting their bursaries. This is bad news for the NHS. Thank | :38:44. | :38:50. | |
you, we thank you for joining us on this BBC News special on the | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
Spending Review. Let's go now to Northern Ireland and | :38:55. | :39:00. | |
our political editor Mark Devenport. What is the view from Belfast on | :39:01. | :39:04. | |
what is happening? I think there is a general welcome on the | :39:05. | :39:08. | |
Chancellor's U-turn on the tax credits. Northern Ireland is one of | :39:09. | :39:13. | |
the places in the UK with the lowest incomes and the estimate that more | :39:14. | :39:17. | |
than 100,000 households would have been very seriously affected by the | :39:18. | :39:22. | |
original tax credit changes. The political deal we had last week at | :39:23. | :39:28. | |
Stormont including ?240 million that the local executive set aside for | :39:29. | :39:33. | |
mitigating the tax credit cuts. They have got a nice headache now. They | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
have to work out what they will spend the money on. Mark, we will | :39:38. | :39:42. | |
leave it there. Thank you. So, as we zoom around the | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
country from Belfast to Birmingham, we are only going to places | :39:48. | :39:48. | |
beginning with the. Let's go back to Jo Coburn | :39:49. | :39:50. | |
in Birmingham now. Did the Chancellor's figures add | :39:51. | :40:03. | |
up? It is all about the numbers driving forward a city like | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
Birmingham. He said he will be able to eliminate the deficit and still | :40:07. | :40:13. | |
have a ?10 billion surplus at the end of this Parliament. So, Jonathan | :40:14. | :40:20. | |
Isaby from the taxpayers Alliance, do the figures add up? The devil is | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
in the detail. We certainly welcome that commitment. It is the right | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
thing to do. But the OBR's economic forecast which was more positive | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
than expected, gave him far more room for manoeuvre but I feel it is | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
a missed opportunity, this Spending Review. Rather than expand deficit | :40:39. | :40:41. | |
reduction at a faster pace, he seems to have found more ways to spend | :40:42. | :40:46. | |
that money. Wouldn't it be better to spend that money on public services, | :40:47. | :40:58. | |
rather than pay down the deficit at this point in the parliamentary | :40:59. | :41:00. | |
cycle? There are things the state has to do. Reshaping and redefining | :41:01. | :41:03. | |
the whole role of the state. This is the very moment when he had a big | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
opportunity to do some big robust and radical things, when there is a | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
frankly weak opposition against him. So in your mind, a bit of a | :41:13. | :41:20. | |
missed opportunity. There will be those who will welcome his | :41:21. | :41:23. | |
announcement that he will not go ahead with the cuts to tax credits | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
or not yet. And there was more money going into health. We can speak to a | :41:28. | :41:32. | |
representative from the health union Unison. The Taxpayers' Alliance said | :41:33. | :41:40. | |
was a missed opportunity. The money that George Osborne has announced so | :41:41. | :41:46. | |
far is a drop in the ocean. When I speak to our members they say | :41:47. | :41:49. | |
they're worried and still worried about crisis in the winter. The 2% | :41:50. | :41:57. | |
that George Osborne announced is a small amount compared to what is | :41:58. | :42:00. | |
required. How small amount compared to what is | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
often hear about there being a winter crisis. It has not happened | :42:05. | :42:08. | |
in quite the way it has been predicted in recent years, thank | :42:09. | :42:15. | |
goodness, and we'll say here that more money has to be put in. It has | :42:16. | :42:18. | |
been chronically underfunded for a number of years. We will need | :42:19. | :42:21. | |
several billion pounds more going into social care. Social care, if we | :42:22. | :42:25. | |
don't have the right social care in place for older people, when they | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
are coming out of hospital, what happens is they stay in hospital | :42:30. | :42:33. | |
until the social care provision can be found and they are preventing | :42:34. | :42:36. | |
other people from using those hospital beds and then we will get a | :42:37. | :42:41. | |
crisis in A There will be an increase in trips and falls and I | :42:42. | :42:44. | |
think we will see a real problem in A George Osborne did not just | :42:45. | :42:49. | |
want to be known as the cutting Chancellor. Let's talk to a business | :42:50. | :42:58. | |
here in Birmingham, and interiors business run by Rob. Thank you for | :42:59. | :43:03. | |
coming onto the programme. The house-building programme George | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
Osborne was talking about will be good news for you? Fantastic news | :43:08. | :43:12. | |
for us and our clients building new homes across the country. Is it | :43:13. | :43:17. | |
enough in terms of providing the number of homes that are needed | :43:18. | :43:23. | |
after we have had a housing crisis? I think time will tell. I think it | :43:24. | :43:26. | |
is building the right homes in the right places for the right people. | :43:27. | :43:32. | |
What about Stamp Duty? It has had quite a big effect on our business | :43:33. | :43:37. | |
and our clients. They have significantly increased Stamp Duty | :43:38. | :43:41. | |
and I think they thought it would generate more tax. I think it has | :43:42. | :43:46. | |
done the opposite. People have stopped moving and stopped buying | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
over ?1 million. Thank you, back to you, Andrew. Thank you. | :43:52. | :43:57. | |
We are joined now by Stewart you, Andrew. Thank you. | :43:58. | :44:04. | |
the deputy leader of the SNP. The Chancellor has announced ?4 billion | :44:05. | :44:09. | |
for the health service, Scotland will get a consequent increase as | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
well, will the Scottish government spend that increase on health? Yes, | :44:14. | :44:17. | |
the Scottish government have been clear that the money will be spent | :44:18. | :44:22. | |
on the health service and that is good news for people in Scotland. | :44:23. | :44:26. | |
Why have you not kept pace with health spending in Scotland compared | :44:27. | :44:33. | |
to England over the last five years? There has been a real terms increase | :44:34. | :44:39. | |
over the last Parliament. I think the increase was ?450 million. | :44:40. | :44:45. | |
Without -- we are now spending more than ?12 billion a year on the NHS | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
in Scotland and it is the most successful part of the NHS in the | :44:51. | :44:55. | |
UK. Were doing the right thing in very straitened times and I think it | :44:56. | :45:00. | |
has been a very good result but the challenges the NHS has had to face. | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
You must be very grateful not having to sit in Edinburgh and thinking | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
about having to put together a Scottish budget, given that oil | :45:09. | :45:14. | |
revenues are 95% below what you were forecasting them to be by this | :45:15. | :45:15. | |
stage? Scotland isn't responsible for North | :45:16. | :45:24. | |
Sea oil. Unfortunately, that was one of the areas that was not devolved. | :45:25. | :45:32. | |
With one of the business taxes that we could craft real solutions for | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
Scotland, they have not been delivered. The package set by the UK | :45:38. | :45:42. | |
includes the softening and yield from the softening oil price. It is | :45:43. | :45:47. | |
not softening in yield, it is a collapse of 95%. In the second | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
quarter of this year, oil revenues were negative, the taxpayer | :45:53. | :45:57. | |
subsidise the industry. If you had voted for independence, you would | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
have had the power, and you would have had an ?8 billion black hole in | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
your fiscal plans. We heard the statement today, we see that the | :46:07. | :46:11. | |
national debt is still forecast to reach ?1.6 trillion. I think any | :46:12. | :46:14. | |
short-term or cyclical issue with taxi yield from one source or | :46:15. | :46:19. | |
another, however difficult it may be over short or medium term, is as | :46:20. | :46:23. | |
nothing compared to the UK black hole, approaching 90%... And | :46:24. | :46:29. | |
independent Scotland would have inherited 10% of that national debt. | :46:30. | :46:35. | |
That would have been your share. On top of that, you would have an ?8 | :46:36. | :46:39. | |
billion shortfall in oil revenues. You would have been cutting | :46:40. | :46:43. | |
hospitals, you would have been closing schools, you would really | :46:44. | :46:47. | |
have been the party of austerity. The good news is that we are | :46:48. | :46:50. | |
actually building schools, opening hospitals. Sure, because you lost | :46:51. | :46:56. | |
the referendum. We are investing a record amount to the NHS. Because | :46:57. | :47:04. | |
you lost! The fact you are trying to reframe the referendum... Not at | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
all! It shows the obsession you have. We have just had a Spending | :47:09. | :47:13. | |
Review, where the Chancellor boasted he still plans to cut ?42 billion a | :47:14. | :47:20. | |
year out of the Budget, more than he needs to to run a balanced economy. | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
I think we should focus on the impact that will have for real | :47:25. | :47:26. | |
people, rather than the hypotheticals you want to keep | :47:27. | :47:34. | |
posting. Well, cutting hospitals and schools have an impact on people | :47:35. | :47:40. | |
beyond the Westminster bubble. But the Scottish Government will have | :47:41. | :47:42. | |
some substantial tax-raising powers, are you going to use them? We will | :47:43. | :47:49. | |
have modest powers, if the UK Government and Scottish Government | :47:50. | :47:51. | |
agree on a fiscal framework that works for the people of Scotland. I | :47:52. | :47:56. | |
am more than happy to say this again, we will use every power we | :47:57. | :47:59. | |
can to the very best of our ability. Let nobody be under any | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
illusion, this is not a substantial package of powers, it is a modest | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
group of powers. I am still not sure if you're going to use them or not, | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
but no doubt we will have an opportunity to return to that. | :48:13. | :48:15. | |
Stewart Hosie, thanks for being with us. What are you thinking now? How | :48:16. | :48:24. | |
is this going to develop? Kamal is going through the detail. There is a | :48:25. | :48:28. | |
lot of detail, when you add the small numbers up, there is plenty to | :48:29. | :48:31. | |
keep the papers and the broadcaster is busy between now and the weekend? | :48:32. | :48:36. | |
There are cuts in here. George Osborne has made the political | :48:37. | :48:38. | |
choice to try to stick to the centre and slow them down, using that | :48:39. | :48:44. | |
sunnier outlook of the economy. But there are cuts in here. What we | :48:45. | :48:47. | |
often find with big set piece statements like today, it is the | :48:48. | :48:52. | |
cuts that might seem like rounding errors, or a margin on a Treasury | :48:53. | :48:56. | |
spreadsheet here or there that do blow up into real political | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
embarrassments. Don't forget, back in 2012, this Government got | :49:01. | :49:04. | |
themselves into trouble over pasties and sausage rolls. And caravans! | :49:05. | :49:10. | |
Don't forget caravans. Things that seem small end up being problems. | :49:11. | :49:13. | |
There will be areas that will be very significant for members of the | :49:14. | :49:16. | |
public. There are further changes to housing benefit that will be | :49:17. | :49:20. | |
difficult for some people. There are changes to the Employment and | :49:21. | :49:23. | |
Support Allowance, sick pay, as most people would call it. There are | :49:24. | :49:27. | |
changes in Universal Credit that will replace tax credit. Frank | :49:28. | :49:31. | |
Field, a prominent opponent of tax credit changes, is already saying | :49:32. | :49:35. | |
this afternoon, and a Universal Credit, families with two children | :49:36. | :49:41. | |
will still stand to lose ?2500 a year. Some of the problems are still | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
there? Yes, and while I think George Osborne will be pretty content with | :49:47. | :49:49. | |
the overall political picture, does that mean that today he is somehow | :49:50. | :49:55. | |
away scot-free from everything in this statement? Not a bit of it. | :49:56. | :50:02. | |
Give us just a quick taste? I would suggest to anybody that can be | :50:03. | :50:07. | |
bothered to go through these documents, and Efficiency And | :50:08. | :50:10. | |
Reform, I think that will be the key to start swapping some of the | :50:11. | :50:15. | |
numbers. I have gone through the business department, I'd love that | :50:16. | :50:19. | |
transport, picking a couple. Reduce the teaching grant by ?120 million | :50:20. | :50:27. | |
in cash terms. What they call ?360 million of efficiency and savings | :50:28. | :50:34. | |
from the adult skills budget, a massive issue for people trying to | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
retrain. In transport, we have a cut to the transport for London budget, | :50:40. | :50:46. | |
which will mean a grand reduction of ?700 million by 2020. A big impact | :50:47. | :50:53. | |
on transport on the city that we are in today. The little speckles of | :50:54. | :50:59. | |
cuts, and also the big issue, always a bit slippery, digitisation. Big | :51:00. | :51:02. | |
government computer schemes will save loads of money. That has always | :51:03. | :51:09. | |
been the case in the past(!) How often have we heard that will be the | :51:10. | :51:14. | |
case, for these systems to blow up in the Government's face and cost | :51:15. | :51:22. | |
more money than expected. Just like the better economic schemes and tax | :51:23. | :51:25. | |
receipts, they have banked some of the money early. They have said that | :51:26. | :51:28. | |
the Department for Transport digitisation will save ?94 million. | :51:29. | :51:33. | |
Well, they haven't done it yet, so let's watch those numbers. Given the | :51:34. | :51:37. | |
BBC record of computerisation, we might just move on from that issue. | :51:38. | :51:45. | |
Here is the political rub, I would suggest, if the rosy scenario should | :51:46. | :51:49. | |
turn out to be a false goddess, it will start to blow just about the | :51:50. | :51:55. | |
time, say 2018, when the Chancellor will be measuring the curtains, he | :51:56. | :51:58. | |
would hope, for Number 10 Downing Street? That is what is slightly odd | :51:59. | :52:03. | |
about the decisions he has made today. As I said, given that | :52:04. | :52:11. | |
actually he is less popular than he was, I would have thought the would | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
want to get the bad news out early in this Parliament, and then build | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
from there, instead of which, he has tried, with his U-turn on tax | :52:22. | :52:27. | |
credits, he is trying to do a U-turn in terms of opinion about him. He's | :52:28. | :52:33. | |
trying to make himself loved again. There is a risk that the OBR is too | :52:34. | :52:40. | |
optimistic on tax revenues. If it turns out that way, he will have a | :52:41. | :52:48. | |
bit of egg on his face. May be a whole omelette! As you have heard | :52:49. | :52:52. | |
from Laura, apart from his personal ambition, a huge political judgment | :52:53. | :52:57. | |
here. George Osborne wants the Tories to win from the centre, not | :52:58. | :53:03. | |
the right. This is his big strategic shift, to move the Tory party into | :53:04. | :53:08. | |
ground that was Tony Blair's ground. He was a huge admirer of Tony Blair. | :53:09. | :53:14. | |
He has seen Labour moved to the left and he wants Tony Blair's space. On | :53:15. | :53:19. | |
the Labour response, I would guess from the early commentator | :53:20. | :53:22. | |
responds, that Mr McDonnell's reaction is not going to be too | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
kindly treated, even in the centre-left papers tomorrow? I don't | :53:28. | :53:30. | |
think standing up and waving around a copy of the Little Red Book and | :53:31. | :53:37. | |
quoting Chairman Mao will go down as being a wise decision for a | :53:38. | :53:39. | |
politician whose great criticism has been made of over the fact of how | :53:40. | :53:45. | |
left-wing he is. Many people in the Labour Party will look at that. We | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
had hoped we would be able to speak to the Shadow Chancellor, John | :53:51. | :53:53. | |
McDonnell, this point. He has been detained in the Conference chamber, | :53:54. | :53:57. | |
we are told. The Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury can join | :53:58. | :54:01. | |
us. What has happened to Mr McDonnell? Why can't we speak to | :54:02. | :54:05. | |
him? We are delighted to have you, of course, why can't we speak to | :54:06. | :54:09. | |
him? I understand he is still in the chamber and has other commitments. | :54:10. | :54:13. | |
As you know, it is a pretty busy afternoon. Ed Balls always found | :54:14. | :54:18. | |
time. Never mind, we are delighted to have you. Mr McDonnell criticised | :54:19. | :54:23. | |
the Chancellor for racking up too much debt, ?1.6 trillion, for the | :54:24. | :54:29. | |
deficit being too high. I thought was his position, your position, | :54:30. | :54:33. | |
your party's position, that the original plans to cut the deficit | :54:34. | :54:37. | |
were too Draconian? Surely, in the end, the Chancellor did roughly what | :54:38. | :54:42. | |
he wanted him to do? What John was saying is that we have a Chancellor | :54:43. | :54:46. | |
that has failed on his own terms. He has set his own targets and he has, | :54:47. | :54:51. | |
step-by-step, failed them. He has come back to the House of Commons | :54:52. | :54:55. | |
with four fiscal charters. So, what we said is that you have to be | :54:56. | :54:59. | |
accountable, also, for what you have said in Parliament. Aren't you glad | :55:00. | :55:07. | |
he has failed? Isn't it a good thing, from | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
he has failed? Isn't it a good the fiscal consolidation is only 50% | :55:13. | :55:15. | |
of what he said? It is a failure on his own terms. He has failed in | :55:16. | :55:19. | |
investing in the country for the future. He has failed on | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
productivity, which is flat-lining. He has failed to really invest in | :55:24. | :55:27. | |
infrastructure, were only 9% of his projects have actually started. | :55:28. | :55:29. | |
infrastructure, were only 9% of his have seen house-building | :55:30. | :55:32. | |
infrastructure, were only 9% of his slow under him, while | :55:33. | :55:37. | |
Chancellor. The Chancellor, even now, | :55:38. | :55:37. | |
Chancellor. The Chancellor, even surplus, in the figures he outlined | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
today, the Chancellor will still borrow another ?155 billion, which | :55:43. | :55:45. | |
will be added to the national borrow another ?155 billion, which | :55:46. | :55:51. | |
before he hits the surplus. Is that too much, too little? Or about | :55:52. | :55:56. | |
right? Well, we have to look at the detail of what he's doing, which | :55:57. | :56:00. | |
will come through when we managed to study the documents. Should he | :56:01. | :56:01. | |
borrow more than not? What is going to happen as a | :56:02. | :56:07. | |
result of this spending statement not? What is going to happen as a | :56:08. | :56:11. | |
today, what is it that we not? What is going to happen as a | :56:12. | :56:14. | |
to see in terms of the impact on our public services, people's family | :56:15. | :56:18. | |
income, we know that he has said that he has reversed the tax credits | :56:19. | :56:25. | |
cuts that he proposed, but there is still ?1 billion that is unaccounted | :56:26. | :56:26. | |
for, which looks like it will come still ?1 billion that is unaccounted | :56:27. | :56:30. | |
from Universal Credit. So, you will still have families that are working | :56:31. | :56:31. | |
very hard to still have families that are working | :56:32. | :56:34. | |
be hit by that. This is a smoke still have families that are working | :56:35. | :56:38. | |
mirrors a statement. What you see is not necessarily what you are going | :56:39. | :56:40. | |
to get. I understand, let me not necessarily what you are going | :56:41. | :56:45. | |
back to my question. Is the fiscal stance of this Government, in your | :56:46. | :56:54. | |
view, or about right? Should they be borrowing more or less? We have said | :56:55. | :56:58. | |
that what we have seen in George Osborne's decisions is that he makes | :56:59. | :57:02. | |
the wrong choices. I'm not asking you that, with respect, I'm asking | :57:03. | :57:06. | |
if his fiscal stance is right, should he borrow more or less? We | :57:07. | :57:11. | |
would support borrowing for investment. Investment where you | :57:12. | :57:14. | |
would see growth coming out from that investment where you would say | :57:15. | :57:17. | |
savings coming out from that, housing being one example. You won't | :57:18. | :57:22. | |
cut the housing benefit bill sustainably unless you build houses | :57:23. | :57:26. | |
and we have seen that what he has promised before has not been | :57:27. | :57:30. | |
delivered. Given what Mr McDonnell did today, are you a regular reader | :57:31. | :57:35. | |
of the thoughts of Chairman Mao, again? Of the Chancellor was | :57:36. | :57:41. | |
doing... I'm asking what you read! Why did you last read the thoughts | :57:42. | :57:46. | |
of Chairman Mao? He was holding George Osborne to account... With | :57:47. | :57:52. | |
Chairman Mao? He was making a statement that George Osborne should | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
not be selling of his assets to foreign countries when he will not | :57:57. | :58:04. | |
invest in his own. That is it on BBC Two, after four hours of public | :58:05. | :58:08. | |
service coverage at its finest, I'm sure you will agree, of the Spending | :58:09. | :58:15. | |
Review and Autumn Statement. Debate continues on BBC Parliament and the | :58:16. | :58:21. | |
news channel will have more. The Daily Politics will be back tomorrow | :58:22. | :58:27. | |
at noon. How could you miss that? Goodbye, Robert! Goodbye everybody. | :58:28. | :58:30. |