10/02/2016 Daily Politics


10/02/2016

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Morning folks and welcome to the Daily Politics.

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Junior doctors in England walkout in a second 24 hour strike over

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changes to their contracts, providing only emergency care.

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Is there any end in sight to the doctors' dispute?

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Is there a level playing field in British politics?

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The Government says it wants to cut the cost of politics and make it

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fairer - but are they changing the rules for home advantage?

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It's plentiful, it's cheap, it's tasty.

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But can a vegan be persuaded of the virtues of

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Why a simple question is so difficult for Eurosceptic

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Let's wait and see, when this whole thing is agreed,

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and try and see what it really means.

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All that in the next 90 minutes, and with us for the duration today

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Shadow Environment Secretary, Kerry McCarthy,

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Last night Nick was engaged in a Twitter spat with pop singer

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Lily Allen over Pythagoras's theorem, with Nick asserting

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the importance of the theory in getting on in life.

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So you'll know that the Pythagorean equation is, Nick?

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These square of the high path use is equal to the square on the other

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side. Should I have taken the Nicky Morgan offence? -- defence. No, that

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is pretty good. Now - junior doctors in England have

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begun a second 24 hour strike over changes the Government wants

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to make to their contracts. In return for an increase

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in their basic pay, ministers want to reduce extra payments made

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to junior doctors for working But the doctors' union,

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the British Medical Association, says that overall the changes

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will still leave their members worse off and -

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they say - endanger patient safety. We're joined now from Milton Keynes

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by Dr David Rouse who is the Deputy Chairman of the BMA's

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Junior Doctors' Committee. One of the main areas of

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disagreement is whether Saturday should be classified as a normal

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working day. Why is it not a normal working day? I think it is because

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of our members, they say so, they have family commitments and caring

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commitments, and they extend well into the weekend and anti-social

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hours, and our membership are telling us that Saturday should be

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protected. The Conservatives think Saturday should be a normal day, if

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they are to meet their manifesto commitment, to introduce a seven-day

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NHS. Do you acknowledge that mandate? The seven-day NHS is

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important, but we have to realise that junior doctors are already

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providing good quality emergency care seven days a week. But not

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equally across-the-board. Emergency care is a very good quality in the

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NHS in the UK, Nicky look at elective care, providing that over

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seven days, that needs more doctors on the ground that but if you look

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at elective care. You cannot expect the care to remain the same, the

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junior doctors want a safe, fair contract the patients, to allow them

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to provide good quality care at all times and this is what the BMA are

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fighting for. If Saturdays were treated differently, to the way they

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are now, new still got the 11% basic pay increase, with the junior

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doctors drop the strike? -- and you still got. This is not just about we

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can pay, we think the contract -- weekend pay, we think the contract

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is about other things. We do not believe working at nine o'clock on a

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Friday evening is the same as working at two o'clock Tuesday, we

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think it will lead to burn out in doctors, this is not just about

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weekend working. Even if that was to be maintained, the contract as it

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is, it would not be enough for you at this stage? You would want

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recruitment drives to heighten the number of doctors and nurses and

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radiologists, for example, as well as keeping Saturday sacrosanct for

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junior doctors? This is about safety, you are making good points,

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this is not just about having junior doctors at the weekend. If this was

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to be a seven-day NHS we need other forms of health care professionals

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at the weekend, like radiologists and nurses, this all requires money.

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Junior doctors are saying the changes being imposed by the

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government, we feel are unsafe, fundamentally, and this is why we

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are here today on strike, while providing good quality emergency

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care for patients, as well. Junior doctors do not do this lightly, they

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are here because they are angry and they want to provide safe care for

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their patients, not just now, but for generations to come, we want to

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protect the NHS and this is why junior doctors are here today. This

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is about the NHS as well as junior doctors. The government says it will

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impose the new contract, what will you do then? If the government do

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that, our members will continue to fight this, we have to do that, but

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our door is always open and we want to go back to talks. We want to go

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back to fair talks, talks with the threat of imposition are not fair

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talks, we want the government to see sense and a compromise with us. We

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want it to be safer for doctors and patients and for the NHS. We could

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see rolling strikes if they impose it? Further action would be

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discussed with the membership, but whatever action we take we will make

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sure it is safe for patients, today we are taking emergency care only

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action and we have senior doctors providing quality care for patients

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right now. This is about providing safe patient care and that is what

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we want for the future and this is why we are here, taking strike

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action today. Thanks for joining us. Is this a strike about the safety of

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care in the NHS or the overtime rate on Saturday? It is about safety and

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a seven-day week have service, which we said we wanted in our manifesto.

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If you are ill at the weekend you are less likely to be treated as

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well as you are in the week. The figures are disputed. There are a

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third fewer doctors on the rotor at the weekend, and it would be easier

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for the government to not reform this public service, but we have a

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commitment and we are doing so. What we are seeing are the vested

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interests fighting against these reforms, the same thing we see in

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education, we have resistance from the teacher unions and here we have

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resistance from the BMA. Was it ever realistic to extend the NHS into a

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kind of all singing all dancing seven-day week operation on existing

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budgets? Surely you need more money to be able to do on a Sunday what

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you would normally do on a Tuesday? There is more money going into the

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health service. We have a strong economy and we are able to put more

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money into this. But not for this. That is what the negotiations are

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about, there are no pay cuts for junior doctors. The overall pay

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package is not rising. So there's no more money going in. We expect

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doctors to be on call and to be available seven days a week, that is

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the purpose of why would you not pay them over time? You intend to bake

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-- pay them the same weekly rate. They will be extirpate beyond five

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o'clock and extirpated Sundays. -- extirpate beyond five o'clock and

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extra pay on Sundays. There are many people who work at weekends. And

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they get overtime. Why were they not get overtime for a Saturday? It may

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not be a big rate, but surely recognise that Saturday is

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different. You want more of them to work on a Saturday and therefore

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they should be paid more than the basic rate? This is all part of the

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negotiations, this includes an 11% raise in the basic package for

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junior doctors. David Dalton has said that they were very close to an

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agreement, very close them so the idea that they are going on strike

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and threatening more strikes, that is irresponsible, and that is not

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how we should be handling these important discussions, about how we

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have a safer health service with doctors spending a few hours --

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spending a few hours on the walls. This is what we are determined to

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achieve because that is why we set out in our manifesto and this is not

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the way that any union should be handling these negotiations. You

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would not want to start from here, but what would you do to end the

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strike? Would you offer them Saturday as overtime? The important

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thing is not for politicians to negotiate, it is for people to get

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around the BMA and listen to what the doctors are saying. There was a

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deal which was almost reached, but Jeremy Hunt vetoed it. We don't know

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that. No, but we've heard that Jeremy Hunt is seen as the obstacle

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to them reaching a deal. The important thing is to listen to what

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junior doctors are saying, I spent the day before Christmas shadowing

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junior doctors in my local hospital and these are people who are

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dedicated to the work they do and they are already working much longer

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hours than they are being paid for, because they don't just walk away

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from the job at five o'clock and down tools. Should they be paid in

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overtime rate on Saturday? That is unsocial hours, and I think, yes,

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that is something they should be common sated for. If they did that,

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that would end the dispute? -- compensated. That is part of it,

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there is something about the extra payment starting at midday on

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Saturday, but most junior doctors will work one weekend in three at

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the moment anyway, it is not that they don't want to take part in the

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seven-day week NHS, but they want people to recognise how

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overstretched and undivided they are. Junior doctors can be quite

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senior, they can have worked in the health service for long time, and

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they don't feel valued. Isn't that the point? Junior doctors already

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stretched in the way, and your plan, without adding to their numbers, is

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to spread them more evenly over seven days, to provide for cover at

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the weekend? By definition they become even more stretched in the

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week. The part that the negotiations is to have a lower limit on the

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number of hours overtime worked, so we increase safety for those

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doctors, that is one of the issues, that is part of the dispute. The

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extra hours they were working, they were generating income, and that has

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been part of the dispute. They say they are already stretched on

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Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and now you say they will not have to work

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as many hours, but they will be working more hours at the weekend to

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give us the seven-day week service, but this surely means they will be

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even more stretched if you are not adding more doctors and you are

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going to spread the same number out over seven days question not that is

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logical. -- out over seven days? We have employed more doctors, 5000

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more cover since we came to office in 2010, -- 5000 more, since became

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to office in 2010. Animal junior doctors have you added? This will

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depend, the funding is therefore the health service, we have increased

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the number of doctors and nurses since 2010, and you have got to have

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the wealth to generate that. I understand that. You can't promise

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that, unless you have the funds to deliver that. But we have a strong

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economy and we can do that. 90% have said they will walk away if the

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contract is imposed on them. Is there a chance they can impose it on

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them? Yes, they have said that. When that be the mother of all fights?

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This is no way to conduct negotiations, trade union should not

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be doing this with a professional body, negotiating in this way, it is

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a very irresponsible thing, 3000 apartments have had to be cancelled

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and that is no way to handle it. -- 3000 operations. They are bobbins

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with the morale, and also in teaching, you have seen the report

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-- there are problems with the morale, and also in teaching, you

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have seen that report? The report says, despite the challenge of a

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strong economy. Some would say it is a crisis. Despite those challenges

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of a very tight and increasingly competitive graduate recruitment

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market, there are more teachers now in teaching than ever before and the

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pupil teacher ratio has remained stable and more people are coming

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into teaching than are leaving. The other statistics, the number of

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vacancies has increased by a third, indicators suggest that teacher

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shortages are growing between 2011 and 2014, the recorded rate of

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vacancies more than doubled from 0.5% of the teaching workforce to

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1.2% and and is increasing. The number of teachers leaving the

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profession has gone up by 11% over three years. You say this as a

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challenge. This is a crisis. It is quite rare for them to use such

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strong words. They say they can't approve this because of the

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statistics I've just read out. 3000 more teachers the year leaving.

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Going in the wrong direction. It is a consequence of a very strong

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economy. We are addressing all these challenges by having very generous

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new bursaries to encourage more physics, maths and English... They

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are saying there are problems there, across all secondary subject,

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particularly 14 out of 17 had unfulfilled training places and this

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is getting worse at secondary level, compared with just two subjects five

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years ago. All the statistics about the wrong way, whatever the

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challenges. I say to you it is because of a freeze on public sector

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pay. We have the highest number of teachers in our history in our

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classrooms today. More people coming into teaching. Why have you got more

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vacancies, more people leaving? Because of the challenge of a strong

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economy. There are lots of opportunities for physics graduates,

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maths graduates and foreign-language graduates... It is not an attractive

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prospect because of pay freeze. That is not true. There are increasing

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numbers of return is coming. But it is a challenge of a strong economy

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and we are addressing that challenged by having generous

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bursaries. We have expanded charities like teach first. We want

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everybody to be helping us to encourage people to come into

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teaching, spreading and Megan negative message. They also point

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out that despite all those challenges, more people coming into

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teaching than leaving for some there are challenges, a very strong

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economy, something we wouldn't have if we had a Labour government. But

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we are taking measures to attract more top graduates to come into

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teaching. This year's figures show 2000 more undergraduates coming into

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teaching than last year. OK, thank you.

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Now - the General Secretary of the TUC will deliver a petition

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today signed by 200,000 people in opposition

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to the Government's Trade Union Bill - a bill that's being debated

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in the Lords this afternoon, where it's facing considerable opposition.

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It's amongst a number of controversial measures

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the Government is taking to change the way politics is in Britain

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It's a rough old game politics, and the Government

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One big reform is the way unions fund the Labour party.

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At the moment, union members are given the option

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to opt out of paying into their political fund.

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The Government believes this is unfair and instead argues union

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What's more, George Osborne has also announced

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short money, which is given to all political parties to allow

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them to carry out their parliamentary work, will be

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Labour are crying foul and claim the moves could cost them up to

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It's not only Labour who are taking a mauling,

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the charity sector is angry over proposals which would mean

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charities would no longer be able spend central government grants

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The Government argues taxpayers money should only be spent

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on helping people, however National Council

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for Voluntary Organisations call it an 'insane policy'.

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It's not just about money, the Government has reformed voter

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Now everyone must register individually, instead

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of by household, and Labour argue the changes

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are happening too quickly and many people will slip

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Thank you Jo Co. Two big weaknesses of our party funding system is

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Labour's overdependence on the unions and your overdependence on

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rich headphones, people in private equity and Russian oligarchs. Why

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have you only decided to deal with the union side and not with your own

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way of funding? Each of those issues are right in their own right. It is

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important that you don't just have your money taken from your salary to

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pay into a party, party coffers, but you have to actively opt in. If you

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say you have to opt out of an insurance policy when you buy a

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television set, there would be uproar. The same principle applies

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to joining a trade union. You should have to opt in to pay the levy, not

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actively opt out. It has been the policy of every previous

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Conservative government since the 1920s to allow an opt out rather

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than an opt in, what has changed? It is wrong in principle. The Winston

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Churchill government, the Thatcher government were wrong in principle?

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In those past governments you mentioned the closed shop was

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lawful. Mrs Thatcher abolished the closed shop but did not abolish the

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opt out procedure. She should have done and Winston Churchill should

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have got rid of the closed shop. Supposing you are right, why would

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you also not deal with the fact that unregulated hedge funds managers,

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unregulated private equity, people who don't reside here very much,

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like Russian oligarchs, can donate unlimited sums of money to the

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Conservatives? Unlimited. They can give unlimited sums to other

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political parties, the Liberal party and the Labour Party, and they do.

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Should there not be a limit? There is a limit. Anything over ?5,000 has

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to be declared. In a free society you have to allow people use their

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money to make a political case, so long as it is transparent and

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declared. We try to have party discussions in the last Parliament,

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to try and resolve this party funding overall and it collapsed.

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The alternative is to have taxpayer funded party funding and that is not

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something the public wants. Most trade union members do not vote

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Labour. So why shouldn't there be the principle that if you join a

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trade union, you are then asked do you also want to contribute to the

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Labour Party? And if you do you tick a box, rather than being

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automatically taken, without you getting the chance? It is

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contributing to the trade unions political fund, which they would use

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to make donations to the Labour Party and also to campaign on a

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range of issues. We had the Collins review named after our previous

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General Secretary that was looking at issues like that. We were looking

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at moving perhaps, reforms to how the party is funded by the unions.

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What the Government is doing now, as you said in your opening question,

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this is entirely one-sided. This is an attack on the trade unions and

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relationship with Labour. We are also seeing an attack on the way

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charities are engaged. I take your point of view. What I'm asking you

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about the principle, even if it is one-sided, it could be wrong they

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are not trying to clear up both sides, that was the implication

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behind my question. But what is wrong with the principle, given that

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most trade union members are not Labour voters, that if they want

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their fees, a chunk of their fees to go to the Labour Party, that that

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should be an explicit act, rather than something that has happened?

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With the Collins review we were looking up at bringing that in over

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a number of years. So you do concede in principle? I think in principle

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that is something we are ready to look at. But what this government is

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doing with the Bill now, it would be a three-month here. The legislation

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comes in. Not long. The huge logistical effort. There is also

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something about not allowing electrical ballots being done

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online, so the sheer cost of the trade unions of operating this. We

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have just seen Bernie Sanders win an amazing victory in New Hampshire,

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2-1 over Hillary Clinton and she runs the biggest political machine

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in America and there is a lot of money in the Clinton machine. Bernie

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Sanders managed 3 million individual donations, not big money most of it,

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I heard him last night, at about 2:30am, most donations under $100.

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Why can't you, Labour and Conservative do that in this

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country? I think that is something Labour wanted to move toward. There

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is nothing stopping you. We now have more than 370,000 members, double

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what they were in the general election. ?3 to join. We do want to

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move away from the big donations dominating politics, but it is far

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more of an issue, the Conservatives have their black and white for ball

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where you had people paying huge amounts of money. This year it

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wasn't so much, but I take point! You have some people who sometimes

:24:57.:24:59.

don't even have much of a connection to politics in the UK paying a lot

:25:00.:25:03.

of money. We are not able to do that in the Labour Party. We are funded

:25:04.:25:07.

by ordinary people, through trade unions or Alan mentioned. We have

:25:08.:25:12.

what many people regarded, not necessarily against what you do in

:25:13.:25:17.

the unions, but see it as one-sided. Hitting Labour sources rather than

:25:18.:25:20.

doing anything about your own. You are now putting tougher rules in the

:25:21.:25:24.

charities and what they can do with money. Changing voter registration.

:25:25.:25:29.

That may be right or wrong but certainly more of a help to you than

:25:30.:25:33.

to Labour. You add it all up and it kind of looks like the arrogance of

:25:34.:25:37.

power. Each of those issues is writing its own right. We had the

:25:38.:25:42.

problems in Tower Hamlets, the election courts were condemning the

:25:43.:25:47.

use of ghost voters. We are tackling those voters. These changes to your

:25:48.:25:52.

advantage. What we want is an electoral register that has

:25:53.:25:56.

integrity. We had this system in Northern Ireland since 2002 and it

:25:57.:25:59.

has worked perfectly well. In terms of charities lobbying, when people

:26:00.:26:03.

give money to charities or charities use public money that we pay to

:26:04.:26:05.

provide services we don't expect that money to be used for political

:26:06.:26:09.

lobbying. Charities are not there just to provide services, they are

:26:10.:26:14.

there if they feel the law is penalising people, that they are

:26:15.:26:17.

there to help. I think is right for them to lobby those issues. The

:26:18.:26:22.

attack on charities in some ways is even more important. We want that

:26:23.:26:27.

money spent on vulnerable people and the services they are meant to be

:26:28.:26:31.

providing. We will have two comeback because we're up against PMQs.

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And that's not all - Laura Kuenssberg is here.

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Welcome. What is buzzing this morning, what is happening, what is

:29:21.:29:29.

going on? There are huge amounts of attention on junior doctors strikes,

:29:30.:29:32.

thousands of doctors not going to work today. A big stand-off between

:29:33.:29:37.

the BMA and Jeremy Hunt, and no sign of a resolution on the horizon. I

:29:38.:29:41.

think Jeremy Corbyn is going to choose not to talk about that. The

:29:42.:29:44.

last doctors strike we thought surely he will raise it, he didn't,

:29:45.:29:48.

he rose something else instead. I think today he may return to one of

:29:49.:29:55.

his favourite issues, housing. Especially on this policy of paid to

:29:56.:30:00.

stay council tenants who start to earn better, ?30,000 a year after

:30:01.:30:08.

start paying market rent and council properties. We know this is an issue

:30:09.:30:12.

very dear to Jeremy Corbyn's heart, council housing. Do we know it

:30:13.:30:18.

affects a lot of people? There was a report at the weekend, which is why

:30:19.:30:25.

I think he might raise it at the PMQ 's. I think it might propel it into

:30:26.:30:30.

PMQ 's. They couldn't afford the higher rent? Couldn't afford the

:30:31.:30:34.

market rent because they were earning more but the jump would be

:30:35.:30:40.

higher than the comparative jump in their salaries. As ever, with

:30:41.:30:45.

statistics, we know PMQ 's can descend into a war of statistics,

:30:46.:30:49.

with statistics about the potential impact of policy. It is not that

:30:50.:30:53.

easy to be precise about what the impact would be. I wouldn't be

:30:54.:30:56.

surprised if there might not be a rather cheeky question as Jeremy

:30:57.:31:01.

Corbyn likes to use questions from the public, from Mary Cameron from

:31:02.:31:05.

oxygen. Just briefly, explain why? -- from Oxfordshire. Who likes being

:31:06.:31:13.

told off by them on? Not least the priming do, publicly. -- not least

:31:14.:31:22.

the Prime Minister. Mary Cameron has got involved in a campaign to stop

:31:23.:31:27.

cuts to nursery services. This is a raw nerve for David Cameron not just

:31:28.:31:32.

because of that issue but his council leader made public a letter

:31:33.:31:38.

David Cameron wrote to him after complaining about cuts. A big issue

:31:39.:31:44.

for lots of people around the country, an embarrassing one for

:31:45.:31:48.

David Cameron. He doesn't go on what something that has been a problem

:31:49.:31:51.

for the Prime Minister in the last 72 hours. He has taken on Europe. Is

:31:52.:31:57.

because he's uncomfortable with Europe? There are lots of reporters

:31:58.:32:01.

morning and conversations with people in the Shadow Cabinet, I am

:32:02.:32:07.

sure Kerry will have a view on this, about how full throttle Jeremy

:32:08.:32:10.

Corbyn will be in his support for staying in the European union. I saw

:32:11.:32:16.

a report this morning that he wasn't planning to take part in any remain

:32:17.:32:22.

rally. That is something that has been suggested. It was put to me

:32:23.:32:28.

yesterday. We will come back to that. First, we go

:32:29.:32:35.

I know the House has been saddened by the death of Harry Harper, after

:32:36.:32:44.

a great career, an adviser to David Blunkett, he was returned to this

:32:45.:32:47.

place last May, succeeding David Blunkett himself. He was in this

:32:48.:32:52.

place a short time and became a popular MP, recognised for his

:32:53.:32:54.

commitment to his constituents and his beliefs. He continued to carry

:32:55.:32:59.

out his work, as an MP, throughout his treatment, we offer his wife and

:33:00.:33:06.

their five children our condolences. This morning I had meetings with

:33:07.:33:09.

ministerial colleagues and in additional to Mike Judy 's in this

:33:10.:33:15.

House, I will have further comments to make -- in addition to my duties

:33:16.:33:23.

in this House. I would like to agree about the sad loss for the member of

:33:24.:33:26.

Sheffield and Hillsborough, he came to this House with an excellent

:33:27.:33:29.

record in local government and will be sadly missed. The whole House

:33:30.:33:35.

send our condolences to his family at this sad time. Housing is the

:33:36.:33:40.

number one issue in my constituency, queries on a workable local plan,

:33:41.:33:48.

looking after our green spaces and strongly offering the Conservative

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value of the right to buy, would the Prime Minister agree that the help

:33:54.:33:59.

to buy items, with one being taken out every 30 seconds, is the right

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way to promote savings and encourage homeownership? -- ISAs. I agree,

:34:04.:34:17.

that is why these help to buy ISAs, where we matched the money they put

:34:18.:34:25.

in, it can ready help, and so what we have seen under this government,

:34:26.:34:29.

is 40,000 people exercise their right to buy their council House,

:34:30.:34:32.

now we're extending that to all housing association tenants and we

:34:33.:34:37.

have seen 130,000 people would help to buy, getting the first flat or

:34:38.:34:41.

the first House, and there is more to do, mostly building houses, but

:34:42.:34:47.

helping people with their deposits is vital. Jeremy Corbyn. Thank you,

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Mr Speaker. I joined the Prime Minister and the member for

:34:56.:34:58.

Eastleigh in paying tribute to Harry Harper, the Honourable member for

:34:59.:35:04.

Sheffield and Hillsborough, a former miner who passed away last week,

:35:05.:35:07.

just a short time ago Harry used his glass question here to ask the Prime

:35:08.:35:12.

Minister questions about the Sheffield Masters and the steel

:35:13.:35:18.

industry -- his last question. I hope the primers to reflects on his

:35:19.:35:25.

-- hope the Prime Minister reflects on his diligence regarding that part

:35:26.:35:31.

of his committee. I said to his wife, how would they like to

:35:32.:35:38.

remember Harry? She said, we have admired the bravery and carriage he

:35:39.:35:41.

showed in his life, which was formed in June the miners strike and which

:35:42.:35:45.

carried him forward for the rest of his life -- which was formed jeering

:35:46.:35:55.

the miners strike. People will remember him as a decent man, and we

:35:56.:36:02.

are very sad at his passing. Mr Speaker, also following the member

:36:03.:36:05.

for Eastleigh, I have a question on housing. I have an e-mail from

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Rosie, cheese in her 20s. -- she is in her 20s. CHEERING

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LAUGHTER Unfortunately, the Rosie who has

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written to me does not have the same good housing that the Chief Whip of

:36:35.:36:43.

our party does. But aspiration springs eternal. The Rosie who has

:36:44.:36:50.

written to me, cheese in 20s and she says, " -- she is in her 20s and she

:36:51.:36:58.

says, "I worked very hard at my job and I'm still having to live at home

:36:59.:37:05.

with my parents, the lack of housing options are forcing her to consider

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moving, she says. She asks the Prime Minister, what action it he is going

:37:10.:37:15.

to take to help young people and families suffering from on realistic

:37:16.:37:20.

healths prizes and uncapped rents to get somewhere safe and secure to

:37:21.:37:27.

live? -- House prices. When you get a letter from the Chief Whip, that

:37:28.:37:30.

normally spells trouble, I should say. What I would say to Rosie, we

:37:31.:37:38.

want to do everything we can to help young people get on the housing

:37:39.:37:41.

ladder, that is why we have these help to save ISAs and I hope she is

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looking at that, we are cutting taxes and she will be able to earn

:37:48.:37:51.

?11,000 before she starts paying any taxes. If Rosie is a tenant in a

:37:52.:37:56.

housing association home, she can buy that home because we are

:37:57.:37:59.

introducing and extending the right to buy, and with help to bite she

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will have the opportunity to register for help to buy which gives

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people the chance to have a small deposit, but still a chance of

:38:10.:38:13.

owning their own home. If she wants to be a homeowner, shared ownership

:38:14.:38:18.

can make a real difference and in some parts of the country you will

:38:19.:38:21.

need a deposit of just a few thousand pounds to begin the process

:38:22.:38:27.

of becoming a homeowner, but Ira lies that building more houses, we

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have got to deliver for Rosie -- but building more buildings. I'm very

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pleased that the Prime Minister would like to help deliver decent

:38:38.:38:41.

housing, Rosie lives and works in London, as the Prime Minister knows,

:38:42.:38:46.

London is very expensive. He talks about people getting on the housing

:38:47.:38:50.

ladder, but the reality is, home ownership has fallen under his

:38:51.:38:55.

government by 200,000 and it rose by a million and the last Labour

:38:56.:38:58.

government, and his record is one of actually some years of failure on

:38:59.:39:04.

housing. He said that council homes sold on the right to buy would be

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replaced like the like, can be primers to tell us how that policy

:39:09.:39:12.

is panning out? -- Gandhi Prime Minister. -- can the Prime Minister.

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What happened under Labour, one council home was built for every

:39:23.:39:25.

hundred and seven seat council homes they sold. That is the record --

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170. We have said we will make sure that two homes are built for every

:39:34.:39:36.

council home in London, that is so, that is because the member for

:39:37.:39:43.

Richmond insisted on that in an amendment to the housing bill. These

:39:44.:39:47.

take some years to build, but the money that they will be built, the

:39:48.:39:54.

money comes back to the Treasury. The Prime Minister should be aware

:39:55.:39:59.

that just one home has been built for every eight that have been sold

:40:00.:40:04.

under his government. People are increasingly finding it very devil

:40:05.:40:10.

called find anywhere to live. The Chancellor's crude cuts in housing

:40:11.:40:13.

benefit for those in supported housing, they are putting at risk

:40:14.:40:18.

hundreds of thousands of elderly people, people with mental health

:40:19.:40:21.

condition, war veterans and women fleeing domestic violence unit

:40:22.:40:25.

support. Can the Prime Minister tell the House what estimate housing

:40:26.:40:30.

dividers have made in terms of the impact of this policy on supported

:40:31.:40:36.

housing? We are going to increase housing supply in the social sector

:40:37.:40:42.

by an ?8 billion housing budget gym this parliament which will build

:40:43.:40:47.

400,000 affordable homes. When it comes to our reforms of housing

:40:48.:40:51.

benefit, yes, we have cut housing benefit, because it was out of

:40:52.:40:54.

control when we came to government. There were families in London who

:40:55.:41:00.

were getting ?100,000 of housing benefit per family. Think how many

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people, think how many Rosie's were going to work, working hard, just to

:41:06.:41:11.

provide that housing benefit for one family. We support supported housing

:41:12.:41:16.

schemes and we will look very carefully to make sure they can work

:41:17.:41:20.

well in the future, but I make no apology for the fact that in this

:41:21.:41:26.

parliament we are cutting social rents, so for Rosie, for example,

:41:27.:41:30.

living in social housing, going out to work but she will have lower rent

:41:31.:41:35.

under this government. I'm pleased the Prime Minister got onto the

:41:36.:41:40.

question of supported housing. Housing providers estimate that

:41:41.:41:43.

nearly half of all supported housing schemes will close, one in four

:41:44.:41:49.

providers are set to close all of their provision, this is a very

:41:50.:41:53.

serious crisis. I assume the Prime Minister is not content to people

:41:54.:42:00.

with mental health conditions with nowhere to live, so can he assure

:42:01.:42:03.

the House that the warm words he has given on supported housing will be

:42:04.:42:08.

matched by action and he will stop this cut which will destroy this

:42:09.:42:13.

supported housing sector? We will continue to support the supported

:42:14.:42:15.

housing sector and the report that he quotes from, it was an opinion

:42:16.:42:20.

poll with an extremely leading question, if he actually looks at

:42:21.:42:24.

what it was he was looking at. The changes that we are making, reducing

:42:25.:42:29.

social rents by 1%, every year for four years, that is good news for

:42:30.:42:33.

people who go out to work and work hard and like to pay less rent. That

:42:34.:42:37.

goes with the lower taxes they will be paying and the more childcare

:42:38.:42:40.

they will be getting, and the other change we are making which does not

:42:41.:42:45.

come into force until 2018, is to make sure that we are not paying

:42:46.:42:49.

housing benefit to social tenants way above what we would pay to

:42:50.:42:52.

private sector tenants. The simple point is this, and this is where I

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think Labour had got to focus, every penny you spend on housing subsidy

:42:58.:43:02.

is money you can't spend on building houses -- have got to focus. Let's

:43:03.:43:07.

take this right back to Rosie in the beginning, it she would like a

:43:08.:43:10.

country where we build homes that she would like a country where she

:43:11.:43:13.

can buy a home, she would like a country with a strong economy so you

:43:14.:43:17.

can afford to buy a home, all of those things we are delivering, but

:43:18.:43:26.

you will not deliver these if you go on subsidising housing, and the

:43:27.:43:29.

welfare benefit, one day Labour has got to realise that the welfare

:43:30.:43:32.

benefit has got to be brought under control. -- the welfare system.

:43:33.:43:39.

Shelter estimates that the measures in the housing bill will lose

:43:40.:43:42.

180,000 affordable homes over the next four years. The Prime Minister

:43:43.:43:46.

is overseeing a very damaging housing crisis, it is prising out

:43:47.:43:50.

people from buying, it is not providing enough social housing,

:43:51.:43:56.

therefore many people are forced to rely on the private rented sector.

:43:57.:44:01.

The benches behind him recently voted against an amendment but

:44:02.:44:07.

forward by my honourable friend or homes to be fit for human

:44:08.:44:14.

habitation. -- for. Labour invested ?22 billion in government, in

:44:15.:44:17.

bringing social homes at two decent homes standard, and there are now 11

:44:18.:44:23.

million people in this country who are private renters. Does the Prime

:44:24.:44:28.

Minister know how many of those homes do not meet the decent homes

:44:29.:44:35.

standard? To listen to Labour, when in the last five years, we built for

:44:36.:44:39.

council houses than they built in 13 years. -- we built more. Where was

:44:40.:44:46.

he? Where was he when that was going on? 13 years and I hope this record

:44:47.:44:53.

on housing. What we are doing is an ?8 billion housing budget, that will

:44:54.:44:58.

provide 400,000 new affordable homes and a target to build a million

:44:59.:45:01.

homes during this Parliament, getting housing benefit down so we

:45:02.:45:04.

can spend money on housing and having a strong economy that can

:45:05.:45:10.

support the housing we need. Mr Speaker, I was asking through you,

:45:11.:45:16.

the Prime Minister, how many of the 11 million renters are living in

:45:17.:45:21.

homes that are not going to make the decent homes standard and therefore

:45:22.:45:28.

are substandard? 1000 of those in the private rented sector do not

:45:29.:45:33.

meet that standard and shells found six out of ten renters have issues

:45:34.:45:38.

like damp, mould, leaking roofs and Windows, it is simply not good

:45:39.:45:43.

enough -- shelter found. Millions are struggling to get the homes they

:45:44.:45:47.

deserve, more families slipping into temporary accommodation,

:45:48.:45:51.

homelessness rising, too few homes being built, social housing under

:45:52.:45:55.

pressure, families forced into low standard, overpriced rented sector,

:45:56.:45:59.

young people unable to move out of the family home and start their own

:46:00.:46:02.

lives, when is the Prime Minister going to realise that there is a

:46:03.:46:07.

housing crisis in Britain, and his government needs to address it now,

:46:08.:46:12.

so that we do not continue with this dreadful situation in this country.

:46:13.:46:18.

Homelessness is less than half the peak today than it was under the

:46:19.:46:25.

last Labour government. There is a simple point here. You can only

:46:26.:46:32.

invest in new houses, you can only restore existing houses, you can any

:46:33.:46:35.

build new houses and support people into those houses if you have a

:46:36.:46:40.

strong economy. We inherited mass unemployment, and economy that

:46:41.:46:45.

completely collapsed, a banking crisis and now we've got zero

:46:46.:46:51.

inflation, wages growing, unemployment at 5%, and economy

:46:52.:46:54.

growing and people able, for the first time, to look to their future

:46:55.:46:59.

and see they can buy and own a house in our country.

:47:00.:47:07.

Mr speak your Nadia was a 19-year-old when Daesh came to her

:47:08.:47:21.

village. They tortured her, raped and made her laid. Nadia's story is

:47:22.:47:29.

the same as thousands of Yazidi women except thousands are still

:47:30.:47:34.

held in captivity and Nadia escaped. In fact, Nadia is in the public

:47:35.:47:38.

gallery today. Will the Minister join me in accepting acknowledging

:47:39.:47:46.

Nadia's bravery and resilience and the qualities that allowed her to

:47:47.:47:57.

triumph over Daesh? Will he support Yazidi women? Let me thank my friend

:47:58.:48:03.

for raising this issue and welcome Nadia, who is here with us today.

:48:04.:48:09.

Her and their Yazidi community have suffered appallingly at this

:48:10.:48:14.

murderous, brutal, fascist organisation in Syria and Iraq. We

:48:15.:48:21.

must do everything we can to defeat Daesh and its ideology. We are

:48:22.:48:24.

playing a leading role in this global coalition. In terms of Iraq,

:48:25.:48:32.

where so many Yazidis suffered, Daesh have lost 40% of the territory

:48:33.:48:36.

controlled. As I said at the time in the debate about Syria, this will

:48:37.:48:41.

take a long time. Building up Iraqi security forces, working with Syrian

:48:42.:48:46.

opposition forces, building the capacity of governments in both

:48:47.:48:48.

countries to drive this organisation out of the Middle East. However long

:48:49.:48:52.

it takes, we must stick at it. Angus Robertson. We on these benches join

:48:53.:49:04.

in the condolences in relation to Harry and pass on our condolences at

:49:05.:49:08.

this sad time to his family for supper by Minister made a vow and

:49:09.:49:12.

his party signed an agreement that there would be no detriment to

:49:13.:49:15.

Scotland with new devolution arrangements. Why is the UK Treasury

:49:16.:49:20.

proposing plans that may be detrimental towards Scotland to the

:49:21.:49:25.

tune of ?3 billion? First of all, we accept this myth principles of no

:49:26.:49:32.

detriment. No detriment to Scotland at the time when this transfer is

:49:33.:49:38.

made. -- the Smith principles. And then no detriment of Scottish

:49:39.:49:42.

taxpayers, but also to the rest of the United Kingdom taxpayers, who we

:49:43.:49:46.

have to bear in mind as we take into account this very important

:49:47.:49:50.

negotiation. I have had good negotiations with the First

:49:51.:49:53.

Minister, negotiations are underway. I want us to successfully complete

:49:54.:49:57.

this very important piece of devolution in a fair and reasonable

:49:58.:50:01.

way and these negotiations should continue. Let me remind the Right

:50:02.:50:06.

Honourable gentleman, if we had had full fiscal devolution, with oil

:50:07.:50:10.

revenues having collapsed by 94%, then the right honourable Gentleman

:50:11.:50:15.

and his party would be weeks away from a financial calamity for

:50:16.:50:24.

Scotland. Thank you. In the context of referendums, whether in Scotland

:50:25.:50:29.

or across the UK on EU membership, don't voters have a right to know

:50:30.:50:34.

that what is promised by the UK Government can be trusted and will

:50:35.:50:39.

be delivered in full. Will the Prime Minister told the Treasury Time is

:50:40.:50:42.

running out on delivering of their fiscal framework and they must do a

:50:43.:50:46.

deal that is fair both to the people of Scotland, and fair to the rest of

:50:47.:50:51.

the United Kingdom. I can tell him everything that has been committed

:50:52.:50:55.

to by this government will be delivered. We committed to this huge

:50:56.:50:59.

act of devolution to Scotland and we delivered it. We committed to the

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Scotland Bill and are well on the way to delivering it. All the things

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we said we would, including those vital Smith principles. There is an

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ongoing negotiations to reach a fair settlement and I would say to the

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Scottish First Minister and Finance Minister, they have to recognise

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there must be fairness across the rest of the United Kingdom as well.

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But with goodwill, I can tell you Mr Speaker, no one is more keen on an

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agreement on me. I want the Scottish National party here and in Holyrood

:51:28.:51:31.

to have to start making decisions, which taxes are you going to raise,

:51:32.:51:35.

what are you going to do with benefits? I want to get rid of,

:51:36.:51:39.

frankly, this grievance agenda and let you get on with the governing

:51:40.:51:43.

agenda and then we can see what you are made of.

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The skills shortage in engineering in Wildschut is particularly a

:51:51.:51:53.

problem. It is threatening and undermining all the work we have

:51:54.:51:58.

done in job creation and also supporting businesses. It is quite

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simply a ticking time bomb. Mr Speaker, may I ask the Prime

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Minister, what more can he do to remove the stigma, misunderstanding

:52:09.:52:11.

and all the problems associated around Stem subjects and careers? I

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think my honourable friend is right to raise this. There are special

:52:17.:52:20.

circumstances in Wiltshire because you have the enormous success of

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Dyson, hiring engineers and skilled mathematicians and scientists from

:52:29.:52:30.

every university in the country and long may that continue. What we will

:52:31.:52:34.

do is help by training 3 million apprentices in this parliament will

:52:35.:52:38.

stop we are giving special help teachers of Stem subjects and them

:52:39.:52:42.

into teaching. I think there was a lot business and industry can do to

:52:43.:52:46.

help us in this, by going into schools and talking about what these

:52:47.:52:50.

modern engineering careers are all about. How much the film and people

:52:51.:52:54.

can get from these careers, to encourage people to change the

:52:55.:52:57.

culture when it comes to pursuing these careers. Mr Speaker, young

:52:58.:53:05.

people are afraid of losing their homes. Women denied the pensions

:53:06.:53:10.

they were expecting an increasingly the needy left exposed without the

:53:11.:53:14.

social care they need to live a decent life. When will the Prime

:53:15.:53:19.

Minister address the scandals? What we are doing for pensioners is

:53:20.:53:24.

putting in place the triple lock so every pensioner knows there can

:53:25.:53:28.

never be another shameful 75p increase in the pension that we saw

:53:29.:53:33.

under Labour. They know that every year it will either be wages, prices

:53:34.:53:38.

or 2.5%. That is why the pension is so much higher than when I became

:53:39.:53:42.

Prime Minister. Of course we need to make sure there is a fair settlement

:53:43.:53:46.

for local government as well. We will be hearing more about that

:53:47.:53:50.

later today. But this ability of local councils to raise special

:53:51.:53:54.

council tax for social care will help in an area where there is great

:53:55.:53:55.

pressure. Nigel Adams. The Spitfire was a crucial element

:53:56.:54:07.

in us winning the Battle of Britain 75 years ago. And keeping our

:54:08.:54:13.

country free from tyranny. However, there are some who fear that our

:54:14.:54:21.

independent, nuclear deterrent could be as obsolete as a Spitfire. Good

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my right honourable friend the Prime Minister assure the House and the

:54:28.:54:34.

country this is not the case? It takes quite a talent in the Shadow

:54:35.:54:39.

Defence Secretary to insult Spitfire pilots and sub Mariner 's all in one

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go. Another week, another ludicrous Labour position on defence. The last

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word should go to our right honourable member in Bridgend who

:54:50.:54:56.

tweeted, oh dear, oh dear, oh my God. Need to go to rest in a

:54:57.:54:59.

darkened room. I'm sure she will find the rest of her party will be

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there with her! At today's's select committee the

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Business Secretary confirmed the Government won't support the EU

:55:24.:55:28.

commission in raising tariffs on dumped steel from countries like

:55:29.:55:32.

China. Why won't the UK Government stand up for UK steel? We have

:55:33.:55:41.

repeatedly stood up for UK steel, including supporting taking

:55:42.:55:43.

anti-dumping measures in the EU. But that is not enough. We need to get

:55:44.:55:47.

behind public procurement for steel and that is what we are doing for

:55:48.:55:51.

them we need to get behind reducing energy bills for steel and that is

:55:52.:55:55.

what we're doing, we need to support communities like his own who have

:55:56.:55:58.

seem job losses, and that is exactly what we're doing. We recognise what

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a vital part Britain's industrial case British Steel is that is why we

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are backing it. Thank you Mr Speaker. Julian Assange is accused

:56:12.:56:18.

of rape and is on the run. Despite this, a United Nations panel nobody

:56:19.:56:22.

has ever heard of, declared last week that he has been arbitrarily

:56:23.:56:29.

detained and somehow deserving of compensation. Does my right

:56:30.:56:32.

honourable friend agree with me that this was a nonsensical decision?

:56:33.:56:39.

That Julian Assange sure turned himself over to the Swedish

:56:40.:56:43.

prosecutors and if anyone is deserving of compensation, it is the

:56:44.:56:48.

British taxpayer, who has had to pay ?12 million to police his Ecuadorian

:56:49.:56:55.

hideout? My right honourable friend is absolutely right. I think this

:56:56.:56:59.

was a ridiculous decision for you have a man ear with an outstanding

:57:00.:57:03.

allegation of rape against him. He barricaded himself into the

:57:04.:57:08.

Ecuadorian Embassy but claims he was arbitrarily detained. The only

:57:09.:57:11.

person who detained himself was himself. What he should do is come

:57:12.:57:17.

out of that embassy and face the arrest warrant against him. He is

:57:18.:57:22.

being asked to stand trial in Sweden, a country with a fair

:57:23.:57:25.

reputation for justice. He should bring to an end this whole sorry

:57:26.:57:33.

saga. Mike Weir. Women's aid groups have raised concerns that changes in

:57:34.:57:40.

social housing benefits may close many refuges. Can the Prime Minister

:57:41.:57:50.

exempt refuges from this? I said in a to questions from the opposition,

:57:51.:57:54.

we want to support supported housing projects. There are work in many of

:57:55.:57:57.

our constituencies and we have seen how important they are. These

:57:58.:58:01.

changes we are talking about, about housing benefit, don't come into

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place until 2018. There is plenty of time to make sure that we support

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supported housing projects. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next month Milton

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Keynes will host the first-ever National apprenticeship fair. We

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have a strong record in expanding apprenticeships. But is there not

:58:19.:58:23.

still a need for a cultural shift in careers advice, to show the

:58:24.:58:26.

high-level apprenticeships are equally valid to university places?

:58:27.:58:33.

I think my honourable friend is absolutely right. The careers advice

:58:34.:58:37.

we need to give young people is that there is a choice for every school

:58:38.:58:41.

either, we hope, of either a university place, because have

:58:42.:58:45.

uncapped unit per university places or apprenticeships and we to explain

:58:46.:58:51.

if you become an apprentice, that doesn't rule out doing a degree or a

:58:52.:58:56.

degree level qualification later on, during your apprenticeship. The

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option of earning and learning is stronger in Britain today than it

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has ever been before. Thank you Mr Speaker. Does the Prime

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Minister agree that housing protects human rights of people in the United

:59:15.:59:16.

Kingdom and deserves full and careful consideration question that

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will he give an assurance that his repeal of the Human Rights Act will

:59:22.:59:30.

not conflict with Scotland? We will very carefully all of these issues.

:59:31.:59:34.

I would say to the honourable lady and honourable members opposite, the

:59:35.:59:38.

idea that there were no human rights in Britain before the Human Rights

:59:39.:59:42.

Act is an absolutely ludicrous notion. This house has been a great

:59:43.:59:47.

Bastian and defender of human rights, but we will look very

:59:48.:59:51.

carefully of the timing of any announcements we make. Mr Speaker I

:59:52.:00:01.

spent most of my working life in children's hospices, rely on

:00:02.:00:05.

donations from organisations like children in need, you have a long

:00:06.:00:12.

association with the town of Pudsey. Would my right honourable friend

:00:13.:00:16.

join me and the people of Pudsey in paying tribute to Sir Terry Wogan,

:00:17.:00:21.

who did so much to inspire millions of pounds to be donated to these

:00:22.:00:25.

quarters question what I am very happy to do that. The honourable

:00:26.:00:30.

member representing his constituency, where Pudsey has such

:00:31.:00:33.

a connection is right to raise this. I think Terry Wogan was one of the

:00:34.:00:36.

great icons of this country. Like many people in this house you felt

:00:37.:00:42.

you grew up with him, listening to him in the radio, in the cart or

:00:43.:00:47.

watching him present programmes. At many people's favourite was the

:00:48.:00:50.

Eurovision Song contest, which every year he brought such great humour

:00:51.:00:56.

too. I think we were all fans and he will be hugely missed and his work

:00:57.:00:59.

with children in need was particularly special. On Monday I

:01:00.:01:07.

attended the work and pensions tribunal appeal hearing for my

:01:08.:01:11.

constituent, a brave and inspiring woman whose dwarfism. Despite being

:01:12.:01:18.

able to climb staircases except on all fours she was awarded zero

:01:19.:01:24.

disability points by her assessor can I asked the Prime Minister if he

:01:25.:01:31.

has if he has attended any tribunal hearings and if so if he found the

:01:32.:01:38.

process fair dignified and compassion question what I am happy

:01:39.:01:41.

to look into the Casey races. I have people coming to surgery with

:01:42.:01:47.

enquiries either about employment and support allowance or about

:01:48.:01:51.

disability living allowance. I have the experience having had a disabled

:01:52.:01:54.

son of filling out all the forms myself, and looking forward to the

:01:55.:01:58.

new system, which I think with the proper medical check, will work out

:01:59.:02:01.

better. I have listened to these arguments but we have to have a

:02:02.:02:05.

system of adjudication which is independent of politicians. Growing

:02:06.:02:15.

up nearby I always knew I was nearly home when I saw the iconic cooling

:02:16.:02:20.

towers of the power stations on the horizon. On Monday the owners of the

:02:21.:02:24.

remaining power station announced its likely closure this summer. Well

:02:25.:02:31.

my right honourable friend asked the Secretary of State to meet with me

:02:32.:02:34.

and discuss further the Government's support that can be provided to the

:02:35.:02:39.

150 workers and the provisions that can be made to ensure the site is

:02:40.:02:44.

redeveloped as quickly as possible? I will certainly arrange for that

:02:45.:02:49.

meeting to take place. We should thank everyone who has worked at

:02:50.:02:52.

power stations that come to the end of their lives, for the work they

:02:53.:02:55.

have done to give us a lecture city, to keep our lights on and our

:02:56.:02:59.

economy moving. I think she is absolutely right. As coal powered

:03:00.:03:03.

power stations come to the end of their lives, we must make sure

:03:04.:03:07.

proper redevelopment takes place so we provide jobs for constituents

:03:08.:03:12.

like hers. The football supporters Federation is considering calling on

:03:13.:03:15.

fans to hold mass walk-outs, in order to get their voices heard

:03:16.:03:19.

about the issue of ticket prices. Will the Prime Minister act, to give

:03:20.:03:24.

fans a place at the table in club boardrooms, in order that their

:03:25.:03:28.

voices can be heard when issues such as ticket prices are being

:03:29.:03:32.

discussed? I will look very carefully at the suggestion the

:03:33.:03:36.

honourable gentleman makes. I think there is a problem here, where some

:03:37.:03:41.

teams and some clubs put up prices very rapidly every year, even though

:03:42.:03:46.

so much of the money for football comes through the sponsorship and

:03:47.:03:49.

equipment and other sources. I will look very carefully at what he says.

:03:50.:03:56.

The vital debate and votes on the Trident successes submarine should

:03:57.:04:00.

have been held in the last parliament but was blocked by the

:04:01.:04:03.

Liberal Democrats. Given the farm the Prime Minister had a few moments

:04:04.:04:09.

and go at the Labour Party 's expense over Trident's success, it

:04:10.:04:15.

must be tempting for him to put off the vote until the conference in

:04:16.:04:19.

October for, I urge him to do the statesman-like thing and hold that

:04:20.:04:23.

vote as soon as is of, because everyone is ready for it and

:04:24.:04:28.

everyone is expecting it. What we should do is have the vote when we

:04:29.:04:32.

need to have the vote, and that is exactly what we will do. No one

:04:33.:04:35.

should be in any doubt that this government is going to press ahead

:04:36.:04:39.

with all the decisions that are necessary to replace in full hour

:04:40.:04:43.

Trident is a Marines. I think the Labour Party should listen to Lord

:04:44.:04:47.

Hutton, who was their Defence Secretary for many years. He said,

:04:48.:04:52.

if Labour wants to retain any credibility on defence whatsoever it

:04:53.:04:55.

better recognise the abject futility of what its leadership is currently

:04:56.:04:59.

proposing. I hope when that vote comes we will have support from

:05:00.:05:03.

right across this House of Commons. In light of today's's damning

:05:04.:05:08.

National Audit Office report on teacher shortages, will the Prime

:05:09.:05:12.

Minister take urgent steps to help schools such as those in my

:05:13.:05:16.

constituency to recruit and retain the best teachers, including

:05:17.:05:22.

extending the London weighting to Harrow schools and other suburban

:05:23.:05:26.

schools question what we will look carefully at this report. There are

:05:27.:05:30.

13,100 more teachers in my schools than when I became per minister. Our

:05:31.:05:34.

teachers are better qualified than ever before. People are shouting out

:05:35.:05:39.

about increased pupil numbers but they might be interested to know we

:05:40.:05:47.

have 40 7000 fewer tuple is in overcrowded schools because we put

:05:48.:05:50.

investment in where it was needed. But we do need schemes like teach

:05:51.:05:55.

first, like our national leadership programme, that are getting some of

:05:56.:05:58.

the best teachers into the schools where they are most needed. My right

:05:59.:06:04.

honourable friend the Prime Minister deserves great credit for the

:06:05.:06:11.

results of the Syria replenishment conference, which was held under his

:06:12.:06:17.

leadership in London. He will be aware this can only address the

:06:18.:06:23.

symptoms of the catastrophe and not the causes. What can he tell the

:06:24.:06:33.

House the government can do to make sure it reaches a speedy success

:06:34.:06:35.

question mark can I thank my right honourable friend. It gives me the

:06:36.:06:41.

opportunity to thank my co-hosts the Norwegians, the Germans and whether

:06:42.:06:45.

Kuwait is on the Secretary General of the United Nations. We raised in

:06:46.:06:49.

one day more money than has ever been raised that one of these

:06:50.:06:53.

conferences ever in their history, over $10 billion. I want to pay

:06:54.:06:56.

tribute to my right honourable friend, the secretary of state is a

:06:57.:07:04.

defeat he did a lot of work. It will help close and feed people and give

:07:05.:07:09.

them the medicine they need. We need a political solution and go on

:07:10.:07:11.

working with all our political partners to deliver this. It

:07:12.:07:15.

requires all countries, including Russia, to recognise the need for a

:07:16.:07:20.

moderate Sunni opposition to be at the table, to create a transitional

:07:21.:07:24.

authority in Syria. Without that, I feel we will end up with a situation

:07:25.:07:33.

where you have Assad in one corner and Daesh in the other. The worst

:07:34.:07:37.

outcome in terms of terrorism, refugees and the outcome of Syria. I

:07:38.:07:43.

am sure the Prime Minister is looking forward to visiting Hull

:07:44.:07:48.

next year. As the UK's city of culture we are backed by many

:07:49.:07:52.

prestigious organisations like the BBC and RAC, but we can do much

:07:53.:07:57.

better, to make this a real national celebration of culture. Will the

:07:58.:08:01.

Prime Minister join with me in urging the many London based

:08:02.:08:05.

National arts organisations to actually do their bit and contribute

:08:06.:08:11.

to the success? I think the honourable lady makes a very

:08:12.:08:15.

important point, which is our national cultural institutions have

:08:16.:08:19.

immense amount of works and prestige that they can bring out to regional

:08:20.:08:24.

Galleries and regional centres when there is a city -- culture event. I

:08:25.:08:33.

will enjoy visiting Hull Foster I know my right honourable friend will

:08:34.:08:37.

want to join me in the city of Hull. It is a city of poets, home to

:08:38.:08:43.

Philip Larkin for many years, and of course, Stevie Smith. Sometimes one

:08:44.:08:47.

might want to contemplate what it's like waving and not drowning. The

:08:48.:08:55.

election for the chair of the environmental audit committee is now

:08:56.:09:00.

taking place in committee room 16. Voting will continue until 1:30pm.

:09:01.:09:07.

Also voting on a deferred division is taking place in the no lobby.

:09:08.:09:09.

This will continue until 2pm. We wanted to stay with that

:09:10.:09:22.

announcement. It is not mean much to me X -- it did not mean much to me!

:09:23.:09:33.

As Laura said, Jeremy Corbyn went on housing, erased a number of issues

:09:34.:09:38.

through his six questions -- he raised. They were all about housing.

:09:39.:09:44.

The Prime Minister reeled off a list of things which the government had

:09:45.:09:48.

done or was about to do regarding housing and we will discuss a number

:09:49.:09:52.

of things. First, what did the viewers make of it? It was all about

:09:53.:09:58.

housing and the viewers responded, but people feel that Jeremy Corbyn

:09:59.:10:02.

needs to be tougher with the Prime Minister. One person said, is he the

:10:03.:10:08.

opposition housing minister? He needs to ask questions on other

:10:09.:10:13.

subjects. Another one says, why does Jeremy Corbyn continue to let David

:10:14.:10:23.

Cameron off the hook? Robert says, well done, Jeremy Corbyn, a bit of

:10:24.:10:33.

venom for a change, but another one says that his methodical approach

:10:34.:10:37.

does not work at PMQs, and for most people it is the only time they see

:10:38.:10:41.

Parliament at play and they see the priming is the easily swatting away

:10:42.:10:46.

Jeremy Corbyn's questions -- the Prime Minister. Helen says, poor

:10:47.:10:56.

Rosie, she chose the wrong champion in Jeremy Corbyn, his argument was

:10:57.:11:03.

wiped out by the Prime Minister. Another one says David Cameron needs

:11:04.:11:08.

to have a walk around the West End of London, and that he has never

:11:09.:11:14.

seen as many people sleeping on the streets. The biggest domestic story

:11:15.:11:21.

of the day, the doctors strike, we did not have one question on that,

:11:22.:11:27.

and then the incredible developing humanitarian crisis north of Aleppo,

:11:28.:11:34.

at the Turkish border, up to 70,000 refugees are heading that way, the

:11:35.:11:39.

combined forces of Assad and Hezbollah and Mr Putin, destroying

:11:40.:11:49.

the moderate factions in Syria, the insularity of the House of Commons

:11:50.:11:52.

sometimes beggars belief, I would say. If we go back ten days, you

:11:53.:12:00.

found British politician sounding cautious about the peace process,

:12:01.:12:05.

getting off the ground in Geneva, and the Foreign Secretary has been

:12:06.:12:08.

very involved in the shuttle diplomacy. Not so long ago we spent

:12:09.:12:14.

hours in the studio talking about whether the government would get

:12:15.:12:17.

enough votes to back expanding air strikes into Syria, that was a big

:12:18.:12:24.

issue. Just about 10-12 weeks ago, but here, the crisis has gone

:12:25.:12:29.

through into a completely... Not a new phase, but a very different

:12:30.:12:34.

phase. And yet, nothing in the House of Commons. And yet, the Russian

:12:35.:12:40.

ambassador was on Newsnight. No, Channel 4. OK, we are allowed to

:12:41.:12:47.

mention Channel 4 News, other news programmes are available! They have

:12:48.:12:52.

had some good stories this week, though. We have the situation with

:12:53.:12:57.

the Ross and ambassador, we took this vote to bomb Islamic State in

:12:58.:13:02.

that part of Syria -- the Russian ambassador. But the Assad forces

:13:03.:13:13.

backed by the Russians, they are mopping up the non-Islamic State

:13:14.:13:18.

forces, and so we could end up in a position where Vladimir Putin could

:13:19.:13:23.

say it is him and Assad against Islamic State, whose side are you

:13:24.:13:28.

on? It looks like it could pan out that way, no one could have been

:13:29.:13:32.

moved by the terrible pictures coming from the Turkish Syria

:13:33.:13:34.

border, where people have been fleeing. People turning up at the

:13:35.:13:43.

Turkish border. Turkey has had an open door policy, but they have

:13:44.:13:46.

closed the border and no one is getting through, apart from the most

:13:47.:13:53.

sick and vulnerable. This is very complex, geopolitical discussion, it

:13:54.:13:56.

is a difficult thing for backbenchers to raise in small

:13:57.:14:03.

bite-size questions, shall we say, but the biggest bait which is

:14:04.:14:06.

happening at the moment over Europe in this country, the top issue is

:14:07.:14:12.

about immigration -- the biggest bait. That is directly affected by

:14:13.:14:17.

the refugee situation which is unfolding in Syria at a rate of

:14:18.:14:21.

knots. As you suggest, one senior politician here, said to me, we are

:14:22.:14:28.

tearing our hair out and they think the British government should be

:14:29.:14:32.

talking much more about this issue. But right now, it does not seem to

:14:33.:14:37.

be a case of the wheel at the top. The European Union urged Turkey to

:14:38.:14:42.

close its southern border with Syria to stop them getting in. Now that

:14:43.:14:47.

there is a humanitarian crisis on that border, the European Union is

:14:48.:14:52.

urging Turkey to open the border. Make up your mind! It is difficult

:14:53.:14:58.

to look at what has happened with the European Union and the difficult

:14:59.:15:02.

attitudes towards migration, but you can conclude there is very much

:15:03.:15:08.

going on apart from a chaotic approach which is not helping. And

:15:09.:15:13.

talk about transit camps, being built, at the moment. Yes, and

:15:14.:15:17.

earlier, the Prime Minister suggested that as part of our

:15:18.:15:22.

debate, about migration, the prospect of having camps in Calais,

:15:23.:15:27.

suddenly arriving on the coast of Kent. And this is an issue in the

:15:28.:15:32.

biggest debate of the year, but not something which is punching its way

:15:33.:15:36.

into the chamber. It has gone beyond the argument of another million

:15:37.:15:41.

refugees coming in this year, or migrants, however you want to

:15:42.:15:45.

classify them. It is quite clear, as the Assad Putin forces mop up,

:15:46.:15:52.

people are terrified, because they remember what Assad's father was

:15:53.:15:57.

capable of and what he has been capable of and what Russia are

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capable of. I've been watching interviews with these refugees, they

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need to get out and there will be a pressure for millions more to get

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out of there. It reaches a scale... Some reports that Nato might have to

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have warships in the GMC to cope with what will now be a massive

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influx, -- the GMC. Ten times as many people have raised the terrible

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voyage from Turkey into Greece than in January last year. It makes you

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wonder, when you talk to ministers privately, about the timing of the

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referendum, there has been the question on the European referendum,

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in June, and having it take place then, in part because there is a

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fear in the increase of migrants in the summer, but that feels rather

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misplaced. This is happening in front of our eyes. Yes. There were

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another 35 people killed just 24 hours ago. What about Jordan and

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Lebanon? They are now at capacity. Jordan has said they cannot take any

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more, because they have huge numbers. It sometimes makes our

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arguments as to whether there should be a refugee camp in Calais or in

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Kent slightly diminished. There is a humanitarian crisis happening in

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many places, in northern Africa, there are thousands of refugees in

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that part of the world, as well, and it is important to provide

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humanitarian aid, as we have done in the government. Another billion

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pounds from us and from others coming up, as well, but as we know

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from the secret minutes, or the Turkish president, with Donald Tusk

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and Jean-Claude Juncker, he pointed out that you gave 400 billion to

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Greece last year. A bailout is a different issue. You can see the

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point. Yes, that money does come back eventually. This is ?1 billion

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from us, the agreement reached with other European nations about putting

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more money into humanitarian aid is important and that is a better way

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of deterring this transit across dangerous waters in the

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Mediterranean. But whatever we do, it is a daunting prospect. It is one

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thing giving assistance, but we hear that they are at breaking point, I

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went to Jordan very early in the conflict, to see the camps but since

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then it has grown exponentially. It is not enough in itself to just be

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focusing efforts on giving aid to people there, it is a far bigger

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issue. It is a huge issue. Just one question on that, but at least we

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spent some time discussing it. Laura, thanks for joining us. We

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will see you next week. No, there is a recess next week, but crucially

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next week is the summit in Brussels. At the end of the week. Yes, a week

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on Friday, and I will be there, looking ahead to the next day, and

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by the end of next week we might have the deal. I will be watching

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you from New York. So - it's official -

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parliament is going vegan and ending it's 1,000 year old tradition

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of printing Britain's laws It's a move driven by financial

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rather than ethical concerns - But it chimes with the choice

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of large numbers of people to cut animals and the produce of animals

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out of their diets - like our guest of the day

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Kerry McCarthy here, But what's wrong with consuming

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large quantities of cheap, Here's Justine Brian

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from the Institute of Ideas It is difficult to read a weekend

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supplement today without some posh food critic shoving down your throat

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the idea that you need to be eating It used to be a relatively

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expensive meat. We used to eat less

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than a kilo per annum. Today each person eats

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about 23 kilos of chicken. The mass production of chicken

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was begun after the Second World War to move away from rationing

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and provide enough sustenance Today about 93% of the chicken

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we buy is produced in the UK The thing about food snobs,

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their concern about chicken welfare is based on the idea that chickens

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somehow suffer in the conditions they are kept, and if we all ate

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free range organic chicken The problem is, if we move to free

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range organic chicken, that means the price

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of our average Sunday chicken That means the cost of our

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supermarket averages for lunch will increase in price

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and the late-night fried chicken you get on the way home,

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that will also increase in price. I can't see any benefit

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in making people's day-to-day Surely it is about time

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we celebrated the fact that today we spend less of our disposable

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income on sustaining ourselves When it comes to the food we eat

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and the choices we make, as individuals and for our families,

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we should be left alone to make those choices guilt-free, not worry

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about the chickens and pigs. And celebrate, finally,

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the freedom that mass food Justine joins us now. Are you

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concerned in any way about the animals we consume for food? You

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must know as we all do, some chickens and pigs are kept in

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terrible conditions? Farming, butchery, slaughterhouses are very

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fiscal things, not pleasant. To some extent I would support moves for

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better welfare for our food production. But to be entirely

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honest, no. It doesn't occur to me how a chicken is kept when I buy my

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chicken sandwich, or how a pig is kept when I buy a bacon sandwich. It

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is is not my primary concern. You made a claim in the film that the

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price would treble. Can you stand that question why do you have

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evidence the price would go up that much for a chicken, for example, if

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we didn't intensively farmed? At the moment if you buy a free range

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organic chicken is around ?12 -?30. I can get a standard grade a for

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about ?4, even worse than that. I am pretty confident that is right.

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Isn't that the problem, the price would go up dramatically? I think

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the problem with what Justine is saying, she is juxtaposing the cheap

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end of the range with the organic, which is very expensive. There is

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quite a spectrum within that. You have things like the red tractor

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welfare standards and Freedom food, better animal welfare standards than

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the very cheap end. But not as pricey. I take there is a broad

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spectrum, but do you agree the price would go up if we didn't intensively

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farmed chickens and pigs? I was at a chicken farm on Thursday. We turned

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up just after the chickens went to slaughter so I didn't see any

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chickens. Bad timing. 110,000 chickens had been sent off to

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slaughter that morning on a 29 day cycle, that is how long it takes to

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get the chicken up to market weight. That was higher welfare standards,

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red tractor. The former was making 2p per chicken. That is why they

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have to do it on such huge lovers. They said they were not getting much

:23:55.:23:57.

from the supermarket, they were selling it to one of the

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intermediaries. Although they wanted to abide by higher welfare

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standards, is not reflected in the price they get. My concern is about

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farmers. It is one thing to say you can keep across town for consumers.

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Supermarkets are generally doing very well, but we're getting farmers

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cannot make a living with dairy, pics, on a whole range... These

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people I visited on Thursday had been potato farmers. Can't make a

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living with potatoes now. Philosophically do we need to eat as

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much meat? We didn't use do? It is a fairly modern phenomenal. It isn't

:24:36.:24:40.

really necessary so we could reduce the levels of those sorts of animals

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found in those ways by eating less meat. We could, we could all become

:24:45.:24:50.

vegans. There is a difference between the two. Whether we need to

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is not the issue of us that we are able to. I think it is impossible to

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turn the clock back and eat less meat. Most of us now have a

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nutritious, healthy diet if we choose to. Is it healthy, industrial

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meat production? Why not? What is wrong with a grade a chicken instead

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of an organic chicken. You may care about the chicken, I don't, just the

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meat I meeting. I would query the wider point. We see a crisis of

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childhood abuse that he, diabetes, the old Jamie Oliver campaign. I

:25:28.:25:31.

would question if most of us are having healthy diets. That goes

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beyond if people eat meat or not. Sorry to rush you, but thank you.

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Now, you're a Eurosceptic Conservative MP or minister,

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you're not sure which way you'll swing come the referendum,

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and anyway, the Prime Minister's told you you're not to speak out

:25:43.:25:45.

until his renegotiation is a done deal.

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So what do you say when an impertinent interviewer like me

:25:47.:25:49.

asks you to jump the gun and speak your mind?

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First here's how some his colleagues have handled it.

:25:54.:26:04.

Why are you up so early this morning?

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Have you decided which side you're on?

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I think the position is, I'm sorry to disappoint you,

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but the position is very much the same as it was yesterday

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I'm not going to put a position down on this,

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I say to this, Andrew, I'm in the business,

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Minister, of delivering what the Prime Minister

:26:27.:26:28.

Am not going to get involved in those negotiations,

:26:29.:26:32.

What really disappoints me, is that people like

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you would rather look after your own interests,

:26:39.:26:40.

than actually come out and lose your cabinet position

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I'm not sure the reporting is entirely

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It's not the issue I will be deciding on.

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What I decide on, is it better for the country economically...

:26:59.:27:03.

Is anything that you do think is very

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Straight talking here, if you don't get free movement

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and therefore the open door remains open door,

:27:10.:27:11.

would you be in favour of leaving the EU,

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rather than carrying on with this situation?

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Well, my intention is to ensure, first of all, we are elected...

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It's a very straight forward question, can you not answer it?

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When this whole thing is agreed and try and see what it really

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Well that is how some have done. How are you going to answer the

:27:30.:27:47.

question? That would depend on the outcome... No, no! This is about

:27:48.:27:53.

collective response politicos but what David Cameron has done is

:27:54.:27:58.

exceptionally, has lifted collective responsibility. He is negotiating

:27:59.:28:05.

with the European Union for a better relationship... He is campaigning to

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stay, look at all these statements he made this week. About camps

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moving from France to Kent and security under threat. This is all

:28:16.:28:19.

part of the negotiations. Will you let us know first? Absolutely. We

:28:20.:28:21.

will settle for that. There's just time to put you out

:28:22.:28:23.

of your misery and give Please, press that buzzer! Well

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done. We will put you in touch with health and safety after the

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programme. The 1pm news is starting

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over on BBC One now. Jo and I will be here at noon

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tomorrow with all the big political I've always been quite

:28:46.:28:49.

anti assisted dying. How he dies is so important

:28:50.:29:04.

for our children,

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Andrew Neil and Jo Coburn with latest political news and live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions.

Their guests of the day are schools minister Nick Gibb and shadow environment secretary Kerry McCarthy.

Also discussed on the programme is the junior doctors strike, and the soapbox this week is in praise of modern farming.


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