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At the start of the week he was returned triumphant


as Labour Party Leader - for a second time.


Now - with that renewed mandate - he prepares to address


his party conference - how will he unite


And tell us how to take Labour intergovernment.


Afternoon, folks - welcome to this Daily Politics


special live from Liverpool on the sunny banks of the Mersey.


So, Jeremy Corbyn left the Conference hotel a few


minutes ago accompanied by six young people.


Labour activists. The party has an been inundated by new member since


Mr Corbyn became leader and many of them young.


He will get to his feet in about 20 minutes and we're


expecting him to speak for less than half an hour -


And if that's the case it will be bit shortest Labour leader speech


since Disraeli. He'll put the party on an election


footing and outline ten policy pledges that Labour


would deliver in government. But Mr Corbyn's bigger task


is to try to bring the party together after another


divisive leadership contest. What - if anything -


will be his olive branch to MPs? And if the snap election that


Jeremy Corbyn will warn of does materialise,


what kind of position will the party We'll have Jeremy Corbyn's speech


live and uninterrupted. That will be in about 20 minutes


time. is the journalist and commentator,


Rachel Shabi. Welcome back to the programme.


What should Mr Corbyn do to reach out to those in the party,


particularly the MPs that didn't want him as leader? Well, there is a


couple of things he can do. One, of course, is to focus on the policy


areas over which they are united. As it turns out there are plenty of


those. They all agree about having an anti-austerity programme, about


going big on infrastructure investment, investment in housing,


support for the welfare state, support for comprehensive schools.


There are lots of areas over which they can agree. But you are right,


people who walked away over the summer are going to need a path


back. They are going to need something to allow them to be able


to reverse that decision made over the summer. And I would imagine


Corbyn and his team are now in conversation with various people


love exactly what can be made, what offers can be made to allow people


to find a way back into the Shadow Cabinet. Does he need to bring what


we might call the rebels, does he need to bring some of these


prominent rebels back into the Shadow Cabinet? I think it depends.


When he formed his first Shadow Cabinet when first elected as leader


it was very much a unity cabinet, spanning across all of the diverse


and varied factions of the Labour Party that have been one family for


so long. That didn't really work out, and I think one of the reasons


it didn't work out was some members of the Cabinet were not that unified


in their approach. There was sniping, briefing to the press that


was seen as undermining of both the cohesion of the Cabinet, of the


Shadow Cabinet, and of the leadership itself. Were he to reach


out across the party in the same way again there would need to be


guarantees that that would stop, I think. Mr Corbyn's people have


blamed the bad polling, particularly this summer because label-macro's


been diverted by a never leadership contest within the space of one


year. -- Labour's. When this is all behind him does he need to


demonstrate he can prove the party's opinion poll ratings? Definitely. I


think the divisions in the party and the fact people have been looking


for months at a party in disarray are only part of the story in terms


of the bad polling. Some of it is actually to do with his leadership,


and I do think he does need to address that. A lot of people that


I've spoken to in the last few days, people have been previously very


cynical about his capacity as leader, have said they have seen a


change. They have said that in the last few months specially he has


raised his game. It's not perfect yet, it is a long way from that, but


they are definitely saying they see signs of improvement. I think were


he to continue along that same path, and at the same time draw on all of


the wealth and experience that all of the factions of the Labour Party


have to bring to the table, if they were behind him and enabling him


with their talents, I think that would also make a big difference. On


the eve of the conference Andy Burnham, now the outgoing Shadow


Home Secretary because he's going to run for Mayor of London and


favourite to win it, sorry, the Mayor of Manchester... As a Labour


mayor. Sadiq Khan just spilt his Coffey, I think! Andy Burnham


implied that there was a test -- coffee. That they had to see an


improvement, because no one, these were his words, at the right to take


Labour to a overstating defeat, he was referring to 2020. It is that


realistic now? Is it realistic to think that if things don't get


better Labour would change its leader again? I don't know. But I


also think it's a long game. The problem is the Labour Party has had


in terms of its own electability go beyond Jeremy Corbyn. They have been


haemorrhaging support among the wider population for some time. They


have lost two elections. Quite a low share of the vote too. Quite a low


share of the vote, so the problems they need to address go beyond the


leadership. They come down to finding a way to re-engage with the


population, find a way to be engage with people, who for whatever


reason, have become disillusioned with the Labour Party and whose


votes they lost, and also the section of the population that just


has not been interested in politics at all and doesn't vote. One of the


encouraging thing is about Jeremy Corbyn's leadership is he has


managed to start to speak to that section of the population. Perhaps


reinvigorate an interest in politics? Yes. OK, we will talk


about this and more. This time last year,


the Labour conference kicked off with the announcement


of Jeremy Corbyn's This year's conference started


in similar fashion. But what about the


intervening 12 months? Here's a reminder of how


the year unfolded for And so I sent out an e-mail


to thousands of people and asked them what questions


they would like to put Public opinion is moving


increasingly against what I believe to be an ill-thought-out


rush to war. It is now time for us


to do our bit in Syria. a politician resigning


live on television. I've just written to Jeremy Corbyn


to resign from the frontbench. I think that things


are being said that have been briefed at and that I have seen


being briefed at this morning REPORTER: Do you accept this has


become something of a crisis? We were getting predictions that


Labour was going to lose councils. Tonight at Ten, tributes


to the Labour MP Jo Cox who has died after being stabbed and shot


on a street in West Yorkshire. A real servant of democracy in every


way one could want or imagine. The British people have spoken


and the answer is - we're out. For all of this I express more


sorrow, regret, and apology than I've been joined by the Shadow


Education Secretary, Angela Rayner. Welcome back on the programme. You


had two leadership elections in 12 months. Can we take it for granted


now that if the election is in 2020 Mr Corbyn leads the Labour Party


into that election? Well, I'm election fatigue in our party at the


moment like most of our members are and we just want a bit of stability.


We are all a bit tired now. So is its job done? I hope so, I hope we


pulled together and lead an opposition to what the Conservative


government are doing at the moment. I hope we pulled together because I


think that's what the nation are willing us to do because they want


to see in a position to be Conservative government and we must


step up to the mark to be the opposition. At the moment you are


ten or 12 points behind in the polls. Some of that Mr Corbyn's


people blame on the fact you've been having your own leadership contest


inwards. But there is also boundary changes coming up which will not be


helpful for the Labour Party either. Although you want him to lead into


the next election, does there come a time if there is no improvement in


Labour's position, or it even gets worse, that the leadership issue is


opened again? Jeremy Corbyn must prove himself to the public, no


question about that. As I've always said respect is earned, not given.


We got to do that, we have a task ahead of us but I think the general


public are willing us on, they want Labour to be the opposition party


then we could be and the government in waiting and we have a long way to


go to prove that. I'm hoping and now we've had this summer of discontent


we can unite together and move forward on that basis and give


Jeremy the chance to lead our party with a big, strong team around him.


Given the task ahead of you, it is quite a formidable task and the


boundary changes do make it worse if they go through, and given the


importance of immigration in the Brexit debate, particularly among


Northern Labour voters, many of whom voted for Brexit, is it wise for


your party and Mr Corbyn to take a leadership position on this that


says he's not concerned about numbers and he doesn't care about


bringing down immigration numbers? Is that wise? Well, many of my


constituents talk to me about immigration and their concerns


around it. I think what has happened is people especially in the north,


and cities like my area, for example, felt they have taken a


disproportionate effect from immigration and have not seen the


investment in the public services, the undercutting of wages and we


need to deal with those issues first serve the general public can have


some confidence that actually immigration as a positive effect on


all of our communities and we all do well from it. Is it wise, was my


question, to say numbers are not the EC? Andrew, not talking about it is


not wise either, that's what people are talking about on the doorstep --


not the issue. Immigration can be good for business and good for the


UK but it disproportionately affects some areas of the UK and we cannot


deny that, we have to deal with the SU. Let me try one more time. Is it


wise, given as you say, numbers are not the EC? What Jeremy said about


numbers is its like pinning blancmange to the wall, you say one


number... It disproportionately affects some areas. You may not need


the same number in my area as you need in another area. The


fundamental thing governments have failed to do and failed to respond


to and prepare for immigration and prepare for what the Labour


workforce needs and housing and services, and when you cut in those


areas as well, this is the crucial bit, in areas like my area the


public sector is a large employer and you've cut it back so much as


well, is it has had this pinching effect on our communities and that


is where tensions have come. Should there be controls on the numbers?


Where there is a need for labour and you're making sure that it is not


under cutting British workers in terms of their wage bill that we've


got good housing in place, including council housing, it is not a dirty


word. That's creating an environment for immigrants coming here and those


that are living here. Should there be controls on the numbers coming?


We already have controls because we're an island, but what


happened... Well, we have free movement from the EU at the moment.


Once we leave the EU should there be controls? There is no infrastructure


and people can't move into a particular area, but what we have


seen is a disproportionate effect on some areas and that's why people


felt it significantly. What we need to be looking at is where we've got


skills gaps and where we need people to come into work, we should be


welcoming that, but we have to make sure that the infrastructure is in


place. Angela Rayner, thank you very much.


Let's look inside the hall. We welcome viewers from


the BBC News Channel. Jeremy Corbyn will be giving his


second keynote address to the party faithful gathered in the hall and to


the wider public through channels like this as he begins to attempt to


gel with the wider electorate because at the end, that's what


matters if you want power, not to win leadership elections, but


winning the elections in the country and that will be a two-pronged job


he has to do today. One will be to attempt to try and bring the Labour


Party together after the divisions over the summer, but begin to build


a case for why Labour should form the next Government in 2020, should


that be the time of the election. Not long to go now. We know a little


bit of what he may say. Let's go over some of that. I'm joined by the


BBC's assistant political editor, Norman Smith. Norman, it is good to


see you. Immigration is going to be the big issue in this speech, is it


not because of what he is not saying? It is not going to be a big


issue because of what he does say, it is what he doesn't say and the


build-up to this whole speech. He wanted to, he did want to raise the


issue of immigration. He wanted to flag up his ideas of bringing back


the migration impact fund which Gordon Brown introduced. The Tories


have also committed to having a similar sort of thing, but they have


not implemented it. They abolished the first one in 2011, but it was


peanuts? It was 50 million. They only spent, they spent ?23


billion... ?23 million in 2009 and another ?23 million in 2010 which I


think you can see is nothing. He is now talking about spending more than


?50 million is what he's saying, but the issue is, his overnight briefing


from the spokesman which was so, I mean, it was just there in plaque


and white, Labour is not about reducing immigration. There is very


little wriggle room or ambiguity about that, it is straightforward.


Understandably, it caused considerable alarm amongst many


Labour MPs because they think it sounds like he is not listening to


the electorate, it sounds like like two fingers to people who voted for


Brexit. I mean, I think, it kind of has made what has been Jeremy


Corbyn's implicit view for a long, long time. He is pretty relaxed


about levels of immigration. And John McDonnell is too, isn't he? I


think it kind of reflects a divide in Labour thinking between


metropolitan Labour and northern Labour. You know, in the big cities,


there is genuinely a more relaxed view, they take the view that


immigration leads to a more diverse society and leads to innovation and


energy, it is a good thing. Very different story in some of the old


industrial mill towns where there aren't jobs, where there aren't


businesses ad they are under real pressure. So that sort of issue on


immigration has exposed the real tensions over Jeremy Corbyn's


leadership and whether it is too London based. Rachel Shabi is with


us helping us get through the speech today. Is this a tactical mistake by


Mr Corbyn? Does it just follow what he has always believed? No, I really


don't think it is a tactical mistake. I think it is long past


time that the Labour Party started to talk about this. Look, the


environment in which we discuss migration now has become so loaded


and so difficult and that was exacerbated by the way we discussed


Brexit that it is now very difficult for him to raise the issue that he


is raising. That doesn't make it wrong, it makes it difficult. The


truth of the matter, even Theresa May and her Conservative Government


they though that a cut on migration would be bad for the economy. We all


know that. Every economist knows that. They cannot say it out loud


because they know it would not be popular to say it. Any cut? So what


Jeremy Corbyn is trying to do is shift the focus. He's saying, "Look,


we understand there are concerns about wage under cutting, about job


insecurity, access to welfare, and access to house, not being able to


see your doctor, sending your kid to a packed school." The cause is


economics and austerity cuts and cutting public services so local


authorities don't have the a capacity to cope and let's not,


let's not blame migrants for that. Let's remove the economic causes for


those concerns. But to do all of that, to build the housing, to


improve the schools, to create the public services for a rising


population, which is rising indigenously as well as rising for


people coming in, don't you need a break until you get these things in


place? But that's the thing about is that we actually, we don't need a


break, we need to maintain the levels of migration that we have.


330,000 net. And most importantly of all in all of this is that even


people, people who voted for Brexit and people who think there is a


problem with migration, the majority of those people polled would not be


prepared to suffer financially as a trade off for a reduction in


migration, that's what will happen. We need to be honest about saying


that. I think Jeremy Corbyn is starting to initiate that


conversation. It is really difficult, it is going against the


grain. But it is a conversation. Norman Smith, it would seem from the


briefing that we got that there is almost no talk of any kind of


controls on EU migration after we leave, but when I interviewed Barry


Gardener on the Daily Politics at lunch time today, he said there


would be all manner of quality controls on immigration. To be


honest, I didn't understand what he was saying. Did you? ? Is he talking


about some kind of points-based system, is that what he means by


quality controls that people will be assessed in terms of whether they


had the right work qualifications, whether they had the educational


qualifications. I don't know... But that's not the policy, is it? No,


Jeremy Corbyn has been honest about this that he doesn't really believe


in controls on EU migration. He does actually believe in freedom of


movement, his argument there are plenty of Brits living abroad, if we


start imposing curbs and there will be curbs imposed on them and he


thinks that we do need large numbers of migrants because of the NHS and


because of certain industries which rely on foreign labour and because


of the benefits they bring to the economy. He is not suggesting there


should be any controls. I'm not sure he would support any controls at


all. He never articulated when he was asked about it. I mean, more


broadly, it just seems to me this is an issue which has dogged Labour,


almost for a decade now. It seems to be such a difficult conversation for


Labour to have. I mean, you kind of go all the way back to Gordon Brown


and Gillian Duffy and Ed Miliband and his last conference speech not


mentioning immigration and now this and it seems to me Labour find it


very hard to have this conversation about immigration. It is a really


fraught issue for them and I think the reason for that, if I'm honest,


is there is a Labour view that bluntly talking about numbers is


border line racist and I think that's the view of some Labour


people and that makes it very hard to have this discussion and they are


still struggling to try and frame a debate which doesn't descend into a


very, very politically charged one. The Labour Party particularly Mr


Corbyn, has said that they need to be geared up for a quick election.


There could be one happening early next year and that's a good thing if


you want to promote unity. An election concentrates the mind, but


it creates a problem for them too, because if they think that they will


need to firm up on their policies and not just speak in slogans and


that hasn't happened? No, Labour is travelling slogan heavy and policy


light. We have had plenty of as ppiration and peace and justice. In


terms of nitty-gritty, well, how is this going to be achieved? Well, we


don't have much insight. I mean, I think, the general election plea


warning is by and large a unity gambit. Just to say to Labour MPs,


"For God's sake not have all this wrangling because we could be on the


cusp of a general election." I'm not sure he actually believes in a few


months we could be plunged into a general election. Theresa May has


signalled she does not want to go down that road. It is harder than in


previous years because of the fixed term Parliament Act. MPs would have


to vote for an election? Indeed. It is part of Jeremy Corbyn's attempt


to try and hold this party together at least in the short to medium-term


because as you say if we were to go into a general election now, you've


got a party which has been through the most acrimonious and difficult


leadership contest with precious little detail in terms of policy


with a leader who is still reviled by a significant part of his


Parliamentary party. Reviled, is that an accurate enough word? It


maybe overstating it, but there are members of his Parliamentary party


who are never going to be reconciled to his leadership because they


believe he has taken the Labour Party over a cliff. The John


McDonnell speech, the Shadow Chancellor on Monday, a little bit


of it was overshadowed when there was the argument about Clive Lewis


and the changing of his speech on Trident, but at the centre of


Labour's new chick policy is a massive increase in public


investment to be financed largely by borrowing on the public purse. For a


party that lost two elections in a row because it was seen to be profly


gate with the public finances, how do you square that? As with


everything else when it come to the Labour Party there is a lot of work


to do. There is a lot of narrative shift that needs to take place in


terms of public perception. As you rightly point out, there is a


perception that the Labour Party is not that good with money basically.


It can't be trusted with the economy. For some reason that


narrative has become true or been perceived as true even though there


is nothing to suggest that's the case. On the other hand, what we're


looking at, we're looking at the Labour Party now trying to combat


with an economic policy. That's a direct challenge to economics that


have blatantly been seen to fail, not just with the economic crash,


but with the fact that people are struggling. Wages are stagnating.


People who are working very, very hard end up just standing still,


going slowly backwards. Their kids aren't able to get houses or jobs.


They can't afford university tuition fees. Everything is stagnant and


people are waking up to the fact that an economic system is failing


too many people. So what the Labour Party is trying to do and what this


economic programme is about, is to try and reverse that. It is to try


and address it. It is actually in line with a leading economist who


are saying the same thing. You had too much austerity and liberalism is


failing, we need to invest. We need to invest in public infrastructure.


We need to invest in housing. The Government needs to borrow and


invest in order to boost the economy. That's isn't a radical


idea. That's become a centrist economic approach.


We expect to hear from Mr Corbyn in at 2. .20pm. That's the Corbyn case


for what is being done. Britain moved up to become the seventh most


competitive economy in the world. All the countries that are still


ahead of it, Singapore, Switzerland, the United States, Germany, none of


them do what you've just said. Yes. But Britain is doing great as an


economic power as you say, but it is doing really, really badly as


sharing that economy around. Record unemployment? There is no need for


foodbanks in a country that's one of the wealthiest in the world. There


is no need for one in three children to be living below the poverty line.


So it's not about the fact that Britain isn't a good economy, it is.


But it is about finding a way to redistribute that and stop the


rampant inequality that's caused so much hardship and so much pain for


so many people. Norman Smith, we hear Rachel said it earlier in the


programme that on so many policies Labour is united, Trident is an


obvious one, that it is not, but on many other issues Labour is united.


Is that true though in general of the debt financed public investment


programme on the scale that Mr McDon't aland Mr Corbyn have been


talking about, it is ?250 billion and sometimes ?500 billion depending


on the article or the speech you read. Is there really unity on that?


The deficit, which was like one of the defining issues in the run-up to


the last election seems to have gone awol. I have not heard anyone really


talking about the deficit here and if you think, you know, Ed Miliband,


got slaughtered at his last conference speech, when he forgot to


mention the deficit. I don't know whether John McDonnell mentioned it,


maybe he did, it really has dropped off the political... George Osborne


has stopped talking about it since Brexit. Isn't that why nobody is


talking about? Not Conservatives, not the Labour Party. It is no


longer an issue, is it? What has changed is the way the


Labour Party is racking up a lot of bills and we have no clear idea how


they will be paid for. If you go to the policies we have had, say in an


area like education, with tuition fees being scrapped, maintenance


grants coming back, CMAs coming back and there is a whole load of


spending and we have no idea how it will be paid for. -- DMA. Whereas we


previously had an environment where everyone had to think about the


constraints of how much of the deficit we have, that is out of the


window and does not form part of the economic argument. I was struck


yesterday when Jeremy Corbyn was asked about the 500 billion figure


and someone said to him, where did you get that figure? Is it just a


nice round figure? And you wonder if the 500 billion figure has been


plucked from anywhere without any solid analysis of where the cash


will come from. I think there has been a total mind shift within


Labour of balancing the deficit and now coming out with lots of


extensive spending pledges which we don't know how they will be paid


for. We will be drilling down on them when the Tories come out with


the Autumn Statement. Although the deficit may not be up there as the


most important economic indicator, which it was under Mr Osborne, Mr


Hammond is not the kind of Chancellor who will forget about the


deficit altogether. We were told the speech would start at 2020, it is


now 2032, we were told it would be 20 minutes and now it's going to be


50 minutes. He's probably listen to this discussion, and thought I would


add in that point, Rachel made a very good point them let me add that


income and even that too and if it carries on like this we could be


here until midnight on this. With got the Tories next week. The next


big economic event for us will be the Autumn Statement on November 23.


We will see then, will we not, as Rachel said the deficit not at the


centre, just what position it is now in under the May - Hammond


government. That's absolutely true, everything changed with Brexit and


Theresa May has said we don't have to worry about having a surplus by


2020, Phillip Hammond has said they will have to make fiscal


adjustments. The whole centre of gravity politically has changed from


deficit reduction to post Brexit. That has changed everything and the


focus now is on, what on earth will life be like outside the EU from


previous sort of objective which was clawing our way back to balancing


the books. That is not what we are about. That is a total game change.


I mean, at the end of the day, I'm sure someone will have to start


saying, OK, the deficit is going up, what will be done? You cannot put it


off for ever and a day. Somewhere along the line we must address it,


even in a post Brexit climate, it can't be put off for ever. The whole


discussion which takes place, even with the Conservative saying we will


not shoot for a surplus anymore and relaxed the fiscal conservatism. Mr


McDonnell saying we will borrow 250, maybe 300, maybe 500, all of that is


predicated on interest rates being low. Interest rates are low at the


moment, historic lows. You can buy, governments can get debt ten years


forward at .8%, the yield is very low, but this borrowing will be done


in 2021 and we have no idea what interest rates will be by then. If


they were hyped it would scupper all of this thinking. To a certain


extent. A lot of this is premised, it is interest rates, as you say,


but also the idea that you need to invest in order to generate income,


it's not just that it's going to create jobs and therefore taxes and


therefore an increased budget, it's that there is going to be more money


circulating in the economy. This is nothing new. These are fairly sort


of Keynesian -based mixed economy... This is nothing new, fairly centrist


stuff we are talking about, just at the economic conversation has


shifted so far to the right that maybe it sounds a bit odd but it's


actually fairly ordinary, regular stuff. What you were talking about


in terms of a post Brexit economy, I think this is one of the key areas.


Sorry to interrupt, the Hillsborough campaigner Sheila Coleman is


introducing the pre-video. We don't carry videos of any of the party


conferences so we will leave the delegates to watch that and then we


expect Mr Corbyn to start his speech and we will go straight into the


hall for that. Sorry to interrupt. The Brexit issued you rightly raised


was one of the best ways you could focus the Labour government, wishful


thinking, the Labour Party! Right now, especially if they do think


there will be a snap election. But the Conservatives are in disarray


over Brexit, is it going to be hard, is it going to be soft? Single


Market, not Single Market, they seemed to be clueless. I'm not sure


what Labour's policy will be, you could file them both under C4


clueless. That could be a unifying matter for Labour, they are much


more unified than the Conservatives. Brexit is a gift for Labour, to me,


because if you look at the Conservative Party, how many times


have we been here again and again? Premierships have been undone by the


iceberg of Europe and it seems to me that Theresa May must come up with a


deal and although she doesn't give a running commentary somewhere down


the line she has got to put down - this is what I'm suggesting. At that


moment she must turn to her party and say- look at the deal I've got.


There will be hard Brexit is who say "Is that it?" There is a moment when


she has got to meet her party and sell it to her party. If team Corbyn


can get their act together, if they can bring the Labour Party together


that is an opportunity for them when they can pile in. But you have to


say, given the week that they've just had, the tensions,


difficulties, divisions and doubts over Mr Corbyn, it's an awfully big


ask to think they are going to be in that position to see is that moment.


We heard a policy from Mr McDonnell, still to be fleshed out, we will


hear some policy from Mr Corbyn too, although from what I've seen still


quite in headline terms. But is there not a danger that for Labour


still there is a battle going on in the NEC, there could be a battle for


the bureaucracy, including the regional leaders, boundary changes


and creating an automatic selection process for MPs. On Saturday Jeremy


Corbyn won a thumping great majority but the battle for the soul of the


Labour Party is still raging. It is very far from over and moderates and


centrists, call them what you will, they have not vanished over the


horizon. They are gradually getting their act together. You do not think


they are in retreat? They took a step back, of course. They lost the


leadership election, they tried everything to stop Jeremy Corbyn,


rule changes, keeping him off the ballot paper, stampeding him into


resigning with the resignations but in a way they have grasped the


gravity of their plight and they are beginning to organise. Tom Watson's


speech yesterday was interesting with the pretty direct criticism of


Jeremy Corbyn, likewise with Sadiq Khan. They have won the


tussle over the NEC. I think they go away from this, not with their tail


between their legs, yes, they have been batted, but the feeling they


take away from this is we've got to do what team Corbyn does, we've got


to organise. They are now talking a bit Momentum light with groups


around the country to support MPs under pressure. So, again on, it's


not all going Jeremy Corbyn's way. There are significant forces trying


to claw back ground. The battle for the future of the Labour Party is


far from over. Rachel Shabi, do you think we will see some bloody


battles on the reselection - deselection front in certain


constituencies? No I think there has been exaggerated. I don't think


Jeremy Corbyn... He has specifically said we're not talking about


deselection. I understand some local MPs might feel nervous about that


but I do think there is a bigger picture here. It's a bit like


running an organisation where there has been a culture change. Some


people don't like the change and they will moan about it. Some at the


top don't represent that change. The idea is to bring people with you,


that is the idea, to bring people with you in the change but if they


continue to resist it what do you do? Maybe we will find out in a


minute. Let's go straight to the hall where the video has finished


and Mr Corbyn is about to be introduced, the delegates are


welcoming Mr Gobern, he's won to leadership elections in 12 months.


-- Mr Corbyn. He will speak for 50 minutes which will take us to 3:30pm


and then we will analyse what he has had to say afterwards. But we are


going to bring you, as we always do, the leader's speech from all of the


major party conferences live and uninterrupted. Let's dip into the


hall as Mr Corbyn takes the applause and begins his address to the party


faithful and to the wider electorate beyond.


Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labour Party.


CHANTING : yes you can.


JEREMY CORBYN: thank you. Thank you so much for that welcome and that


introduction. This hole is absolutely packed here today in


Liverpool and we've even got an overspill down the road. I want to


say thank you to everyone that is here today.


I want, also, before I go into my speech, to say a huge thank you to


all the staff of this conference Centre who have made us so welcome


and worked so hard here today. I want to say thank you to all of


our Labour Party staff for all of the work they've put in for this


conference today and all the other days.


And I want to say a big thank you to my own staff in my office in my


constituency and in Parliament for the huge support they give me and


give our party all the year round. But I've got to slightly correct


myself because I did say the whole is completely packed. Well, I got a


message on the way in from Virgin Trains.


LAUGHTER They have assured me there are 800


empty seats in the hall. APPLAUSE


Either way, conference, it's a huge pleasure to be holding our party's


annual conference at this fantastic city. The city of Liverpool that


shaped our country, economy, culture and music. Liverpool has always been


central to the Labour Party and our movement. And I know some people say


campaigns and protests don't change things. But the Hillsborough


families have shown just how wrong that is.


It's taken 27 years, but those families have shown with great


courage and dignity, finally, that you can get truth and justice for


the 96 who died. I want to pay tribute to all the families and


campaigners for their solidarity, their commitment and their love.


Thank you. And, as Andy Burnham put it to


conference this morning, we must learn from them, and we promised


those campaigning for justice, for all grieve, for Shrewsbury Town for


thousands of workers blacklisted for being trade unionists, we will


support your battles for truth and justice and when we return to


government we will make sure you have both.


Because winning justice for all and changing society for the benefit of


all is the heart of what Labour is about. So, yes, our party is about


campaigning, and it's about protest too. But most of all it's about


winning power in local and national government, to deliver the real


change our country so desperately needs.


That's why the central task of the whole Labour Party, the whole Labour


Party, must be to rebuild trust and support to win the next general


election. APPLAUSE And form the next


Government. That is the Government I'm determined to lead to win power


for change, for Britain for the benefit of working people.


APPLAUSE Everyone of us in this hall today


knows that we will only get there if we work together and I think it is


fair to say after what we've been through these past few months it


hasn't always been exactly the case. Those months have been a testing


time for the whole party. First, the horrific murder of Jo Cox, followed


by the shock of the referendum result and then the tipping over of


divisions in Parliament into the leadership contest that ended last


Saturday. Jo's killing was a hate-filled attack on democracy that


shocked the whole country. Jo Cox didn't just believe in loving her


neighbour. She believed in loving her neighbour's neighbour and that


every life counted and as Jo said in her maiden speech as an MP, we have


far more in common with each other than things that divide us. Let that


essential truth guide us as we come together again to challenge this


Tory Government, and its shaky grip on power.


APPLAUSE In Jo's memory, thanks for everything she did and thanks to her


family and all her close friends por all they've been through and the


solidarity they've shown together. So we may all learn from her life.


APPLAUSE We've also lost good MPs like Michael Meacher and Harry


Harpen, they were Labour through and through, passionate campaigners for


a better world. Let me also pay a particular tribute


to those Parliamentary colleagues who stepped forward in the summer to


fill the gaps in the Shadow Cabinet. APPLAUSE And ensure that Labour


could function as an effective opposition in Parliament. They


actually didn't seek office, but they stepped up when their party and


in fact the country needed them to serve. They all deserve the respect


and gratitude of our party and movement and this conference should


thank them today. They are our future.


APPLAUSE We've just had our second leadership


election within a year. It had its fraught moments, of course, not only


for Owen Smith and me, and I hope we don't make a habit of it!


LAUGHTER But there have been some up sides to


it, over 150,000 new members have joined our party.


APPLAUSE Young rising stars have shone on the


frontbench and we found that the party is more united on policy than


we would ever have guessed. I'm honoured, deeply honoured to have


been re-elected by our party a second time with an even bigger


mandate. APPLAUSE But we all have lessons to


learn and a responsibility to do things better and to work together


more effectively. I will lead in learning those lessons and I'd like


to thank Owen too for the campaign and for his work as Shadow Work and


Pensions secretary. APPLAUSE


And also, of course, to the Labour Party staff, our own teams and the


brilliant teams that support all of our members of Parliament and our


party around the country. One lesson is that there is a responsibility on


all of us to take care with our rhetoric. Respect democratic


decisions, respect our differences and respect each other. We know that


robust debate has at times spilled over into abuse and hate around our


country. Including miss son-in-lawing knee


country. Including miss APPLAUSE We have more of our fellow


citizens in our party than all the other political parties in Britain


put together. APPLAUSE


Some may see this as a threat, but I see it as a vast democratic


resource. Our hugely increased membership is part of a movement


that can take Labour's message into every community and win support for


the election of a Labour Government. APPLAUSE Each and every one of these


new members is welcome in our party. And after a ten year absence, we


welcome back the Fire Brigades' Union into our party and to our


conference. APPLAUSE We are reuniting the Labour


family, but I want to also if I may to say thank you to the firefighters


and indeed all of the public sector workers who worked so hard to save


people during the floods last winter. Thank you for everything you




And over the past year, we've shown what Labour can do when the party


stands together. At conference a year ago, I launched our campaign


against cuts to tax credits and we succeeded in knocking this


Government back. APPLAUSE


This year, this year, three million families are over ?1,000 better off


because Labour stood together. APPLAUSE


In the Budget, the Government tried to take away billions from disabled


people, but we defeated them on that.


APPLAUSE And we won all four Parliamentary by-elections and I


welcome our new colleagues into Parliament and the great victories


they achieved. APPLAUSE


In the May elections, we overtook the Tories to become the largest


party nationally. We won back London with a massive win for Sadiq Khan,


the first Muslim Mayor of A western capital city. My congratulations


Sidique for that incredible win. APPLAUSE


And we won the Bristol mayor for the first time.


APPLAUSE The first black Mayor of Any


European city. My congratulations to Marvin. And we also won the mayor in


Salford and right here in Liverpool. Congratulations.


That's the road of advance we have to return to if we're going to


challenge the Tories for power and turn the huge growth in the Labour


Party into electoral support we need right across Britain.


There is no doubt that my election as Labour leader a year ago and


re-election this month grew out of a thirst for a new kind of politics


and a conviction that the old way of running the economy in the country


isn't delivering for more and more people. It's not, I promise you


about me, of course, or unique to Britain, but across Europe, and


North America and elsewhere, people are fed-up with the so-called


free-market system that has produced grotesque inequality, stagnating


living standards, and many calamitous foreign wars out end and


a political stitch-up which leaves the vast majority of people shut out


of power. Since the crash of 2008, the demand for an alternative and an


end to counter productive austerity has led to the rise of new movements


and parties in one country after another. But in Britain, it has


happened in a different way. In the heart of traditional politics, in


the Labour Party. Which is something we should be extremely proud of. It


is exactly what Labour was founded for, to be the voice of the many of


social justice and progressive change from the bottom up.


APPLAUSE But it also means it is no good


harking back to the tired old economic and political fixes of 20


and 30 years ago because they won't work anymore. The old model is


broken. We're in a new era. That demands a politics and economics


that meets the needs of our own time.


Actually, even Theresa May gets it, sort of!


LAUGHTER That people want change, that's why


she stood on the steps of Downing Street and talked about the


inequalities and burning injustice in today's Britain.


LAUGHTER Well, she said it!


LAUGHTER In fact, she promise add country


that works not for a privileged few, but for every one of us.


But even if she manages to talk the talk, there are problems about


walking the walk! This isn't a new Government. It's


David Cameron's Government repackaged with progressive slogans,


but with a new harsh right-wing edge. Taking the country backwards


and dithering before the historic challenges of Brexit.


APPLAUSE Who seriously believes that the Tories could ever stand up to


the privileged few? They are the party of the privileged




Funded by the privileged few, for the benefit of the privileged few.


APPLAUSE Theirs is a party after all that now


wants to force through an undemocratic boundary review based


on an out of date version of the electoral register with nearly two


million voters missing. They've dressed it up as a bid to cut the


cost of politics. By abolishing 50 constituencies, but the ?12 million


savings are dwarfed by the expense of the 260 peers David Cameron


appointed at a cost of ?34 million a year.


APPLAUSE It's nothing more than a sin deal attempt to gerrymander the


next election. APPLAUSE


And this is from a Prime Minister who was elevated to a job without a


single vote being cast after a pantomime fuss which saw one leading


Tory after another falling on their swords. When I meet Theresa May


across the dispatch box I know that only one of us has been elected to


the office they hold by the votes of a third of a million people.


APPLAUSE In any case, the Tories are simply


incapable of responding to the breakdown of the old economic model


because that failed model is absolutely in their political DNA.


It is what they deliver every time they're in Government. Tory


Governments deregulate, they outsource and privatise and stand by


as inequality grows. They have cut taxes for the privileged few and


sold off our national assets, calls on the cheap and turned a blind eye


to their chronic tax avoidance. They're so committed to the


interests of the very richest, they've recruited Sir Philip Green


into Government as an efficiency tsar, I'm not sure what a an


efficiency tsar does, Government might be more efficient if the super


rich like Sir Philip actually paid their taxes.


APPLAUSE when government steps back there are


consequences for every one of us. What's happened to housing under the


Tories. House-building has fallen to the lowest level since the 1920s,


nearly a century ago. Homeownership is falling as more people are priced


out of the market. Evictions, and disgracefully homelessness and a


rough sleeping go up month after month, year after year. Council


homes are being sold off without being replaced. And another


consequence of that is that we, all of us, are paying over ?9 billion a


year to private landlords in housing benefit to pay the rent. Instead of


spending public money on building council housing we are subsidising


private landlords. That's wasteful, inefficient, and frankly poor


government. So, Labour will, as Teresa Pearce


said, build over 1 million new homes, at least half of them council


homes and we will control private rents so we can give every British


family that basic human rights, decent home.


It's the same in the jobs market. Without proper employment regulation


there has been an explosion of temporary, insecure jobs. Nearly 1


million people on zero-hours contracts not knowing what their


earnings are going to be. There are now 6 million working people earning


less than the Living Wage and the poverty amongst those in work is at


record levels. That didn't happen by accident. The Tories have torn up


employment rights, and deliberately tried to weaken the organisations


that get people justice in work, the trade unions.


Of course, trade unions are not taking this lying down. Look at the


great campaign Unite has waged at Sports Direct to get justice for


exploited workers. And hold Mike Ashley to account.


That is why Labour will repeal the trade union act and set unions free


to do their jobs defending and supporting their members and rights


at work. And we will raise the minimum wage


to a real Living Wage that brings working people out of poverty and we


will ban zero-hours contracts, as John McDonnell...


APPLAUSE ... John McDonnell, our Shadow


Chancellor and Ian Lavery set this out very clearly at conference this


week. And then there is the scandal of the privatised railways.


More public subsidy than under the days of British rail, all going to


private firms, and more delays, more cancellations, and on top of that


the highest fares in Europe. That's why the great majority of British


people back Labour's plan set out so well by Andrew McDonald this week to


take the railways back into public ownership.


But if you want the most spectacular example of what happens when


government steps back, the global banking crash is an object lesson of


greed and speculation and deregulation that crashed economies


across the globe and required the biggest ever government intervention


and public bailout in history. Millions of ordinary families paid


the price of that failure. I pledge that Labour will never let a few


reckless bankers wreck our economy again.


So, Labour is offering solutions during this summer's leadership


campaign I set out ten pledges which I believe can be the platform of our


party's programme for the next election. They were put a conference


yesterday in an NEC statement. They lay out the scope of the change we


need to see. For full employment, a homes Guaranty, security at work, a


strong, public National Health Service and social care, a national


education service for all, action on climate change, public ownership and


control of our services, the cut in inequality of income and wealth,


action to secure an equal society and peace and justice at the heart


of our foreign policy. Don't worry, Conference, they are


not the Ten Commandments. I haven't come down from the mountain with


them. They are here already and they will now, of course, go to the


national policy Forum and the whole party needs to build on them, all


our brilliant members have ideas, imagination and inspiration. We want


to hear to have your help on refining those policies, and above


all, take them out of the people of this country, take them out so that


we get support on them. But those ten pledges, the core of the


platform on which I was re-elected will now form the framework of what


the Labour Party will campaign for and what the Labour government will


do. Together, they show the direction of change we are


determined to take command outline a programme to rebuild and transform


Britain. They are rooted in traditional Labour values and


objectives. But they are shaped to meet the challenges of the


21st-century. They are values Labour is united on. They reflect the views


and aspirations of the majority of our people, and they are values our


country can and will support as soon as they are given the chance to do


it. These pledges are not just words.


Already across the country Labour councils are putting Labour values


into action in a way that makes a real difference to the millions of


people, despite cynical government funding cuts that have hit Labour


councils, often representing the poorest parts of the country five


times as hard as Tory run areas. Good examples like Nottingham City


Council setting up the not for profit Robin Hood energy company to


provide affordable energy. Or Cardiff bus company taking


100,000 customers every day publicly owned with a passenger panel to hold


its directors to account. APPLAUSE


Or Preston council working to favour local procurement and keep money in


the town. Or Newcastle council providing free


Wi-Fi in 69 public buildings across the city.


Or Croydon council which has set up the company to build 1000 new homes,


and as Councillor Alison Butler said we can no longer afford to sit back


and let the market take its course. Or Glasgow, that has established a


high quality and flexible working places for start-up, high-growth


companies in dynamic new sectors. For, right here in Liverpool, set to


be at the global forefront of a new wave of technology - the ?50 million


business hub that aims to create 300 start-up businesses and 1000 jobs


over the next decade. There are many other examples. It's a proud Labour


record, each and every Labour councillor deserves our heartfelt


thanks for the work they do and the difficulties they endure in doing


it. But I want to go further because we


want local government to go further and put public enterprise back into


the heart of our economy and services to meet the needs of local


communities. Municipal socialism for the 21st-century as an engine of


local growth and development. That's why I'm announcing that Labour will


remove the artificial borrowing cap and allow councils to borrow against


their housing stock. That single measure alone...


APPLAUSE ... That single measure alone would


allow them to build an extra 12,000 council homes a year. Labour


councils increasingly have a policy of in-house as the preferred


provider and many councils have brought bin collections, cleaners


and IT services back in-house in sourcing privatised contracts to


save money for council taxpayers and ensure good terms and conditions for


their staff. I have said that Labour will put


security at work and employment and union rights from day one, centre


stage. But one in six workers in Britain are now self-employed. Their


right to value their independence but for too many it comes with


insecurity and a woeful lack of rights. So we will review


arrangements for self-employed people, including Social Security


that self-employed people pay for in their taxes yet aren't fully covered


by it. We will ensure that successful innovators have access to


the finance necessary to take their ideas to the next level, grow their


businesses and generate employment. So as part of our workplace 2020


review we will make sure that our tax and social security arrangements


are fit for the 21st-century, consulting with self-employed


workers and the Federation of Small Business is.


If the Tories are the party of cuts and short-term as an, Labour is the


party of investing for the future. With the same level of investment as


other major economies we could be so much more, unlock so much skill,


ingenuity and wealth. That's why we will establish a national investment


bank at the heart of our plan to rebuild and transform this country.


And we will borrow to invest at historically low interest rates to


generate far greater returns. It would be foolish not to because that


investment is expanding the economy and the income it generates for us


all in the process. Even this government, after years of austerity


and savage cuts is starting to change its tune. I'm not content


with accepting second class broadband. Not content with creaking


railways. Not content with seeing the United States and Germany


investing in cutting-edge and green technologies, while we lag behind.


Last year, for example, the Prime Minister promised a universal


service obligation of 10 megabytes broadband. But since then the


government has done nothing, letting down entrepreneurs, businesses and


families, especially those in rural areas that want to grow the economy.


That's why we have set out proposals for in national investment bank with


500 billion of investment to bring our broadband, railways, our housing


and our energy infrastructure up to scratch.


A country that doesn't invest is a country that has given up, that has


taken the path of managed decline. A Labour government will never accept


second best for this country. Our country's history is based on


individual ingenuity and collective endeavour. We other country of Ada


Lovelace, Alan Turing, Tim Berners-Lee, is about Kingdom Brunel


and the George Stephenson, Eric Laithwaite, brilliant people that


created and develop so much. But the Tories have turned their back on


this proud British tradition. They have put privatisation and cutting


spending first. Britain now spends less on research as a share of


national income than France, Germany and the US and China. A Labour


government will bring research and development up to 3% of GDP.


Yesterday Rebecca Long-Bailey set out the terms of our industrial


strategy review. We need an economy that works for every part of this


country so that no community is left behind. And today I'm asking


everyone, businesses, academics, workers, trade unions, and anyone


who cares about our future prosperity to have a say in that


review. We are a wealthy country, not just in terms of money. We are


rich in talent, Rich in potential, that's why we have proposed a


comprehensive national education service at the heart of our


programme for government to deliver high quality education for all


throughout our lives. Education has always been a core


Labour value. From the time of the MP for Jarrow and a national


education system will be an essential part of a 21st estate.


People need to upgrade their skills without falling into debt. Britain


falls behind others in productivity, partly that's about investing in


technology and infrastructure and partly it is about investing in


people and their skills. How can we build and expand the sectors of the


future without a skilled workforce? But this Conservative Government has


slashed adult education budgets. Taking away opportunities for people


to develop their skills and leaving businesses struggling to find the


skilled workforce they need to succeed. So today, I'm offering


business a new settlement. A new deal to rebuild Britain. Under


Labour, we will provide the investment to rebuild Britain's


infrastructure. We will fund that investment because it will lead to a


more productive economy. Providing the basis on which our economy and


our businesses can thrive. Helping to provide over one million good


jobs and opportunities for businesses. But investment in


capital must include investment in human capital. The skilled workers


needed to make our economy a success. So this is the deal Labour


will offer to Beus -- to help pay for a national education service,


we'll ask you to pay a little more in tax. We've already started to set


out some of this, pledging to raise corporation tax by less than 1.5% to


give an Education Maintenance Allowance to college students,


grants to university students, so that every young learner can afford


to support themselves as they develop skills and get


qualifications. APPLAUSE


Business shares in economic success and it must contribute to it too.


And I recognise that good businesses deserve a level playing field. So I


also pledge to good businesses that we will clamp down on those that


dodge their taxes, you should not be under cut by those that don't play


by the rules. APPLAUSE There is nothing more


unpatriotic than not paying your taxes. Frankly, it is an act of


vandalism, damaging our National Health Service, damaging older


people's social care, damaging younger people's education, so a


Labour Government will make the shabby tax avoidance a thing of the


past. APPLAUSE Our national education


service is going to be every bit as vital as our National Health Service


has become. And we recognise that education isn't simply about


preparing for the workplace. It is also about exploration of knowledge


and unlocking the creativity that's there in every human being. So all


scul pupils should have the chance to learn an instrument, take part in


drama and dance, have regular access to a theatre, gallery, museum in


their local area. So that's why we will introduce an arts pupil premium


to every primary school in England and Wales and consult on the


national design and roll-out to extend this pupil premium to all


secondary schools. This will be a ?160 million boost to schools to


invest in projects that support cultural activities to school over


the longer term. It could hardly be more different from the Tory


approach to education. Their only plan is the return of grammar school


segregation and second class schooling for the majority.


APPLAUSE And what a great job, Angela Rayner


is doing in opposing them in this! APPLAUSE


So this Saturday, 1st October, I want you to take this message into


your community, that Labour is standing up for education for all.


APPLAUSE Grammar schools are not the only way the Tories are bringing


division back into our society. They're also using the tried and


tested tricks of demonising and scapegoating to distract from their


failures. Whether it is single mothers, unemployed people, disabled


people or migrants, Tory failure is always someone else's fault.


APPLAUSE And those smears have consequences from children being


bullied in school, to attacks on the street such as the rise in


disability hate crime. I'm so proud of this party. In the last year we


stood up to the Government on cuts to disabled people's benefits and


cuts to working families tax credits and on Monday our shadow work Work


and Pensions Secretary announced we would be scrapping the sanctions


regime and the degrading work capability assessment.


Plus plus as politicians, as political activists, as citizens we


have zero tolerance towards those who whip up hate and division. Stand


together against racism, Islamophobia and anti-semitism and


defend those being demonised. APPLAUSE It has been shaming to our


multi-cultural society that assaults on migrants have increased sharply


since the referendum campaign. A campaign that pedalled myths and


whipped up division. It isn't migrants that drive down wages. It


is exploitive employers and the politicians who deregulate the


labour market and rip up trade union rights.


APPLAUSE It isn't migrants who put a strain


on our National Health Service. It only keeps going because of the


migrant nurses and doctors who come here filling the gaps left by


politicians who failed to invest in training.


APPLAUSE It isn't migrants that have caused a


housing crisis, it is a Tory Government that has failed to build


homes. APPLAUSE Immigration can certainly


put extra pressure on services that's why under Gordon Brown Labour


set up the migrant impact fund to provide extra funding to communities


that have the largest rises in populations. Good plan. Very


effective. What did the Tories do? They abolished it. Then they


demonise the migrants for putting pressure on services. A Labour


Government will not offer false promises on immigration as the


Tories have done, we will not sow division by fanning the flames of


fear, whatever the outcome of Brexit negotiations and make the changes


that are needed. We will act decisively to end the under cutting


of workers pay and conditions through the exploitation of migrant


labour and agency working which would reduce the number of migrant


workers in the process. APPLAUSE


And we will ease the pressure on hard-pressed public services that


are struggling to absorb Tory austerity cuts in communities


absorbing new populations. Labour will reinstate the migrant impact


fund and give extra support to areas of high migration, using the visa


levy for its intended purpose. APPLAUSE


And we'll add a citizenship application fee levy to boost the


fund. That is the Labour way to tackle social tension. Investment


and assistance, not racism and division.


APPLAUSE This party campaigned hard to remain in the European Union and


I spoke at rallies from Cornwall to Aberdeen for our Labour campaign to


remain and reform, but although most Labour voters backeds, we did not


convince millions of Labour voters especially in those parts of the


country left behind, left behind by years of neglect and under


investment and de-industrialisation, now we have to face the future


together. We're not helped by patronising or lecturing those in


our communities who voted to leave, they have to hear their concerns


about jobs, public services, wages, immigration, and a future for their


children and we have to respect their votes and the decision of the


British people. Of course, that does not mean giving a blank cheque to


Theresa May and her three legged team of fractious Brexiteers as they


work up a negotiating plan, but it is unfortunately they have a


distraction from that because they have to squabble about whose turn it


is to go to a country retreat each weekend! We've made it clear that we


will resist a Brexit at the expense of workers' rights and social


justice. APPLAUSE


We've set out our red lines on employment, environmental and social


protection, and on access to the European market. But we will also be


pressing our own Brexit agenda including the freedom to intervene


in our own industries like steel. Without the obligation to liberalise


or privatise public services. APPLAUSE


And building a new relationship with Europe based on co-operation and


internationalism. And as Europe faces the impact of a refugee


crisis, fuelled by wars across the Middle East, we have to face the


role that repeated military interventions by British and other


governments have played in that crisis.


APPLAUSE The Chilcot Report made absolutely


clear the lessons to be learnt from the disastrous invasion and


occupation of Iraq, just as this month the Foreign Affairs Select


Committee report into the war in Libya demonstrated. Those lessons


have still to be learned a decade on.


APPLAUSE The consequence of those wars have


been a spread of terrorism, and violence across and that displaced


millions of people, forcing them from their countries. That's why I


believe it was right to apologise on behalf of the party for the Iraq


war. Right to say that we learned the lessons.


APPLAUSE And right to say... And right to say


that such a ka tros it is a trofy must never be allowed to happen


again. We need a foreign policy based on peace, justice and Human


Rights. I tell you this today what great news it is to hear the peace


treaty that's been agreed in Columbia after 50 years of


devastating war. APPLAUSE


And we need to honour our international treaty obligations on


nuclear disarmament as much as we do on Human Rights and other things and


encourage others to do the same. But we're a long way from that


humanitarian vision. Britain continues to sell arms to Saudi


Arabia, a country the United Nations says is committing repeated


violations of international hult war, war yims in Yemen and on


Sunday, it was good to stand alongside the Yemeni community here


in Liverpool who endorsed our call to end those arms sales to Saudi




Just as the war crimes that are going on in other places such as


Syria. There has to be a political solution to the conflicts.


APPLAUSE Today I make it clear that under a


Labour government when there are credible reports of human rights


abuses British arms sales will be suspended, starting with Saudi


Arabia. Last year the votes we needed to win


power went many different ways in all parts of our country, while


millions of our potential voters stayed home. Many didn't believe


that we offered an alternative, it is true there is an electoral


mountain to climb. But if we focus everything on the needs and


aspirations of middle and lower-income voters, of ordinary


families, if we demonstrate we have a viable alternative to the


Government's failed policies I'm convinced, absolutely convinced, we


can build the electoral support that can beat the Tories.


This means being the voice of women, of young people, pensioners, middle


and lower-income workers, the unemployed, the self-employed,


minority communities and those struggling with the impact of


migration and work and everyone struggling to get on and trying to


secure a better life for themselves, their families and their


communities. Running throughout history is the struggle for equality


by rampant inequality has become the great scandal of our time, sapping


the potential of our Society, tearing at its fabric. Labour's goal


isn't just greater inequality of wealth and income. It's also about


powerful stop our aim could not be more ambitious. We want a new


settlement for the 21st-century in politics, in business, our


communities, with the environment, and in our relations with the rest


of the world. Every one of us in the Labour Party is motivated by the cap


of what our country is and what it could be. -- by the gap.


APPLAUSE We know that in the sixth largest


economy in the world the food banks, stunted life chances and growing


poverty alongside wealth on an undreamt of scale are a mark of a


shameful and totally unnecessary failure.


We know how great this country could be for all its people with a new


political and economic settlement with new forms of democratic


ownership driven by investment in the technology and industries of the


future, with decent jobs, education and housing for all, with local


services run by and for people, not outsourced to faceless corporations.


This is not backward looking. This is very much the opposite. It's the


socialism of the 21st-century. Our job is now to win over the


unconvinced of our vision. Only that way can we secure the Labour


government we need. And let's be frank, no one would be convinced of


the vision promoted by a divided party. We all agree on that.


APPLAUSE So I ask each and every one of you


to accept the decision of the members, and the trench warfare, and


work together to take on the Tories! Conference, anything else is a


luxury that the millions of people who depend on Labour cannot afford.


We know there will be local elections next May. In Scotland


where we won three by-elections this summer in Wales, thank you Labour


Scotland, Wales and across the counties in England, and Metro


mayoral elections, including right here on Merseyside, where my good


friend Steve Rotheram will be standing as Labour's candidate.


Steve, best of luck. I will miss your comradeship, your humour, your


criticism. LAUGHTER


And your wonderful support. APPLAUSE


And, on the same day we are going to be electing Andy Burnham in


Manchester and Sian Simon in Birmingham.


Big Labour victories on the same day. Are we agreed on that?




LAUGHTER There is always a but, isn't the? We


could also face a General Election next year. Whatever the Prime


Minister says about snap elections there is every chance Theresa May


will cut and run for an early election. So today we put ourselves


on notice. Labour is preparing for a General Election in 2017.


And we hope and expect all our members to support our campaign. We


will be ready for the challenge whenever it comes.


APPLAUSE Let's do it and be ready for that


challenge. Let's do it in the spirit of the great Scots born Liverpool


football manager Bill Shankly. APPLAUSE


Sorry, Andy, I know Andy is an Everton supporter. Don't go! Stay!


You're going to like it, Andy, don't worry.


The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal


and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football


and that's how I see life. We are not all Bill Shanklys, each


of us comes to our socialism from our own experiences. Mine was shaped


by my mum and dad, a teacher and an engineer. Both very committed


socialists and peace campaigners. My mum's inspiration was to encourage


girls to believe they could achieve anything in their lives.


APPLAUSE And I've met some of the people she


taught. She inspired so many girls to take up science and engineering


because of her example. And in my experience working as a volunteer


teacher in Jamaica when I was a young man taught me so much about


the strength of communities living in adversity and showing the most


amazing solidarity to each other in poverty and in remote communities,


and determined to achieve something collectively good for their entire


community. And later I spent years as a union


organiser in the National union of Public employees, representing low


paid workers, fighting for the national minimum wage, fighting for


decent wages and conditions, unions make us strong but also it's the


determination of people to be strong for themselves, and above all strong


for each other that shakes my politics, shakes my ideas and shapes


my values. -- shapes my ideas. As the great American poet Langston


Hughes put it, I see that my own hands can make the world that's in


my mind. Everyone here and every one of our


hundreds and thousands of members has some thing to contribute to our


cause. That's why we will unite, build on our policies, take our


vision out to a country crying out for change. We are 500,000 of us and


there will be many more, working together to make our country the


place it could be. Conference, united we can shape the future and


build a fairer Britain in a peaceful world. Thank you.


STUDIO: And Jeremy Corbyn getting applauded as they all rise to their


feet, as it comes to an end, he didn't speak for 40 minutes as we


were told, or 40 minutes as we were then told, he spoke for an hour and


he is getting a standing ovation as he waves back to the crowd promising


what he called a socialism for the 21st-century. He began by saying the


new Shadow Cabinet members that come in when so many of the older ones


have resigned, they are the future, he said. He wanted progressive


change from the bottom-up. He said the Tories were merely the party of


the privileged few. He saw his leadership of the Labour


Party and those like-minded around him as part of the trend of the


radical left in Europe like Syriza in Greece and put a must in Spain.


On policy details which were high in aspiration if low on detail. He


wanted 500,000 more council houses. The renationalising of the railways.


He said his ten point programme that he had for the party leadership


battle on would become the basis of party policy for the next election.


And that included the repeal of the Trade Union Act, which of course was


the Conservative reform which the last Labour government made very few


changes to. He offered a new deal for business that would be


multi-billion pound public investment in infrastructure, but he


was going to raise their corporation tax, the tax on their profits, to


pay for various educational measures. He promised that


educational and national education as well. He concentrated on


migration, tackling the consequences of immigration and extra support for


areas of high immigration. There was nothing, as had been briefed before,


about numbers and what controls there would be in place. He did say


there was an electoral mountain to climb but if they could capture the


support of middle and lower income voters then they would climb that


mountain. Norman Smith, the BBC's political editor, is with me.


Norman, what did you make of that Kozak if I'm glad I thought it was a


missed opportunity in a funny way because at the end of the speeches.


We're just hearing the red flag in the background, they are singing it,


just so our viewers understand. As a journalist you want to have a


story to tell. I'm struggling to say what it was Mr Corbyn wanted to say.


There was a message to the broader country. If there was a top line


from it there was the appeal to unity, the biggest cheer he got was


the line appealing for an end to trench warfare, divided parties


don't win elections. But a lot of it felt to me a bit of a comfort


blanket for his party, going through policies that yes, his party


absolutely loves, getting rid of zero-hours contracts, nationalising


railways, in national investment bank. All of that sort of stuff goes


down very well with his party. But if unity was to be a central message


I think he needed to do more. I think there was a slight element at


the beginning of his speech, and you picked it out when he lauded those


who had gone into the Shadow Cabinet, and he said very


deliberately, they are the future. In other words, all of you big


Labour beasts from the past who have been given so much grief, forget it,


you are not the future. That's not a message to bring people together. So


it will go down terrifically well. Performance wise, actually, he has


improved because sometimes he can be a bit of a mumble, a bit in


different. He looked more confident. It was a much improved performance


on last year, more confident, more vocal, more relaxed as lead and


comfortable in his skin as leader. But if you are a voter sitting at


home I don't think you take much from some of the very Corbyn -esque


lines about stopping arms sales to Saudi Arabia, or peace in Colombia.


I just don't think that really grabs people out there. I'm not sure what


his offer was to the electorate. So, you know, it will make people feel


good. Whether it actually gets any traction out with this conference


chamber I'm not sure. As we move from country-macro to Jerusalem you


might hear in the background, Rachel Shabi, what is your take? I agree it


was a much more confident, capable performance we have seen a step


change in the way Corbyn comes across. In terms of narrative arc


there definitely was one. What Corbyn was doing over an hour, was


it? It was an hour, maybe a few seconds short. It was very carefully


and slowly, steadily building an ark whereby the Conservative government


is old, it's out of touch, it's privileged, its elite, it doesn't


have the capability to tackle the very urgent needs of the country. So


he set up the Tory party as being out of date, out of touch,


ill-equipped and constantly letting the country down. Meanwhile, all the


while building up a narrative of the Labour Party as being modern,


forward-looking, progressive, wants to invest, wants to innovate. He


spoke about a patriotism that comes from a Britain that innovates, that


builds things, that designs things, that makes thinks. He spoke about


investing in that. He drew people together, I think, within a sort of


shared narrative that is, we can find solutions, we are struggling at


the moment but we can find solutions and we do it by investing and


innovating and looking forward. These are all things the


Conservative government cannot and does not know how to do.


That maybe the game or the aim because Neil Kinnock tried to do


that with the Tories in 1990 and when they changed leaders from


Thatcher to Major, the public kind of thought, it is like a new


Government and in some ways the polls suggest the public also think


that with the demise of Mr Cameron and his set, this is a new


Government too. Yes, I thought there was a narrative he could have


grasped there, but I don't think he did and he kind of touched on it


lightly which was this idea we are in a new era, a different politics,


the old model is broken, which he genuinely believes and it was done


in a paragraph and I think you could build a story around this. This is a


new era, I represent a different way of doing things. I felt it got lost


in what almost became a list of policy statements which we already


knew. The new policy, I counted two, slash three, one was the idea of


allowing councils to borrow to build council house, fine, very worthy,


but probably technocratic and dull for most viewers. There was an


announcement I think on a pupil premium, an arts pupil premium which


again sounded sort of slightly under powered. It didn't seem to me there


was an offer to the British people in policy and then if you are not


going to do that, you have to impart a vision and I don't think he gave


that vision. I think if he had managed to grip this idea we're in a


different world, things are different and I represent that,


there was a potential to develop that story, but I don't think he got


there. Halfs in it for the disillusioned PLP? I think again, it


was actually quite deliberate and quite clever of Corbyn, he didn't


really attack, he didn't do any attacking. He didn't talk about


unity much either. But he did try and unify the party along the lines


of this common message, this common narrative, this new era, new


solutions for a crisis. It is interesting that you mention


housing. Housing is of course one of the biggest issues, most people will


be feeling the effects of a housing crisis. Most people in the country


were feeling that and for him to signal that is a really big deal,


but he did signal other policies like investment in innovation, he


talked about raising corporation tax specifically to pay for education.


So he signalled the beginning of or the return of Education Maintenance


Allowance which is a really big deal. We're going to move on. We


have got to let Norman go, because he has 53 other outlets to service


between now and later this evening. Norman, thank you for being with us.


We want to find out, you heard how two of the journalists felt about


the speech, how how did it go down with a few of the party members.


Andrew Fleming is outside the conference hall. Hello, we're live


on the BBC, what did you think of the speech? Absolutely brilliant.


Inspiring. We're going to win the next election. Butterflies in the


stomach? Absolutely, didn't it you? No comment scham What did you think


of the speech? Very good speech. It was amazing. What do you think the


theme was? Was there a message or a storyline that he was talking about?


I think it was a fairer society. Somebody who works in the NHS, we


see the inequality, we see the need for reinvestment and he says the


right things and the people responded to that very positively.


So keep the fingers crossed, yes. Thank you very much. Hello there,


you're live on the BBC, what did you think of the speech? It was very


good. It covered loads of things that everybody is really feeling


passionate and I'm one of the many thousands that came back to the


Labour Party. What did you think of the speech? He has given us a clear


platform to go out and fight for this country. I I think Jeremy st


going forward and we're addressing the concerns and the party and I


think we can rebuild and build a Britain that we want to see. Who was


inspired by the speech? No. Not at all. Very disappointed. What was the


problem? There was a lot of talking about what is problematic and there


was a lot of saying great, why we should change that and I'm waiting


to hear how we're going to change that. We're going to change it. He


talked about the changes in, to the companies that are going to make a


contribution to improve education. He talked about we're going to be


more welcoming of people coming into this country. He talked about


building more houses. He talked about a bank that is going to invest


in this country. He is talking all the practical things. We're going to


get out there, I hope, you as well, and we're going to persuade people


that what he said is absolutely right. It is about the needs of the


many, not the few, it is not the Tories who are who are just


interested in a few. We will let you carry on that discussion later on.


Who thought Jeremy Corbyn's speaking style has improved?


Do you think Jeremy Corbyn's speaking style has improved? Yes,


very good. That's all from the delegates here


on the conference floor where you can buy a copy of Jeremy Corbyn's


speech if you really want a keepsake. Back to you.


STUDIO: That was our Adam there, not quite in the spirit of unity. They


are only walking out and after 30 seconds they are arguing amongst


themselves, but it was interesting. Rachel, housing, you mentioned


rightly, it is one of, I think, the undercovered, but huge policy issues


that faces, but I have covered manifestos going on from the Labour


one in 1997 through to the Tory one in 2010 and the Tory one again in


2015 all promising much more housing and it hardly ever happens. They


seem to run up against planning constraints, local council


constraints and so on, I'm not quite sure if anybody yet knows how to


break the log jam on this? I moon, I do think that this is something that


Jeremy Corbyn really believes in. I remember interviewing him a few


months ago and asked him what the most important thing in terms of


domestic policy was and howst housing was number one. And rightly


because it does affect, we all know how big an impact it has had on our


society. How short we are of housing? How short we are of housing


stock. I think there is a reason why this has become at the fore front of


Labour Party policy. I guess the issue is how do you deliver? You


build. That's true, but he has got two problems, one is getting


planning per Marks because councils are reluctant to release land, is he


going to overrule them from Whitehall which would fly in the


face of a lot of the rhetoric we heard this week and secondly, the


biggest demand for houses tends to be in areas where there are Tory


councils and that's another thing he has got toe overcome? Yeah, but I


think the most important thing to overcome is the lack of willing to


do it and that's what the Tory Government and the coalition


Government before it demonstrated. There was no interest in


replenishing the social housing stock and there was no interest in


providing more housing. There was a complete lack of capacity to


understand how much of a problem it was causing for people both renting


and not able to buy. So I think actually the biggest obstacle is the


desire to do so. Would you agree with him, would you


place what he has done to the Labour Party and the forces he represents


in the Labour Party there with the party in Spain and Greece which has


challenged the traditional Socialist Party? Was I right in thinking he


was saying we've channelled their radicalism and reinvented the Labour


Party rather than done it from outside? Yes, he did talk about


that. He spoke about a sort of 21st century socialism. So he made it


very clear that this isn't an old-style, this isn't going


backwards, this is very much a modern socialism for a modern


society facing modern crisis and those parties that you spoke about,


across Europe, came about because of the same sort of economic and social


crisises that we're seeing across Europe. In the UK that has happened


within an existing party. Primarily, I think, because the party system


cannot accommodate any other manifestation. We have only got a


couple of minutes to go. Len McCluskey joined us. Good to see


you. Which speech did you prefer, Tom Watson's or Jeremy Corbyn's?


Jeremy Corbyn's. Tom's speech was about yesteryear's politics. I think


what we have seen today was a leader. Somebody who spelt out a


vision and a vision that is desperately needed in our country


and that call for unity and what Labour can achieve when we are


together I think was very powerful and very inspiring. Where did your


attack on Tom Watson's speech fit into the call for unity What attack.


A critique, an opinion which I said that I thought Tom was going back to


the third way of playerism. That was for a different era and I said that


really is not a vision anymore. So, of course, it is about Jeremy asked


us to wipe the slate clean and perhaps unite, perhaps I need to be


careful about my rhetoric as well, Andrew. Well, don't we all at times?


Do you think the Parliamentary Labour Party needs to change to


reflect more the kind of Labour Party that Mr Corbyn was outlining


in his speech today? I think that's a great question and when you are a


representative of a party, you have to understand if the party is


changing and I'm sure that the vast majority of the PLP will recognise


that the party as changed and there is a vision and a commitment there


and I think they'll come back to support the leader and effectively


support the membership that put them there. We almost have to go, but


you're up for re-election soonment are you running again Oh, a long


time yet. A long time. Are you going to run again? I will let you know


when I decide. Go on, we need a story. My executive and members will


know first. Should he run again? I think that's between him and his


conscience. It is between him and his members! His members as well.


Len McCluskey, I'm sorry it was so rushed. He should have cut down his


speech and we would have had more time to talk! Come back and see us.


It is always a pleasure. That's from the Labour Party conference in


Liverpool. It finished with Mr Corbyn's speech calling for a


socialism suited to the 21st century. Jo will be back with more


Daily Politics at midday on BBC Two and I'll be back on BBC One tomorrow


night after Question Time when I have no idea who our guests will be!


But maybe Mr Portillo will have got off his train if not his trolley.


Bye-bye. There were two areas of fingerprints


on the carrier bag.


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