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28/09/2016: Labour Leader's Speech

Andrew Neil presents live coverage of Jeremy Corbyn's keynote speech on the final day of the Labour Party Conference. He also speaks to shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry.


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At the start of the week he was returned triumphant

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as Labour Party Leader - for a second time.

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Now - with that renewed mandate - he prepares to address

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his party conference - how will he unite

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And tell us how to take Labour intergovernment.

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Afternoon, folks - welcome to this Daily Politics

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special live from Liverpool on the sunny banks of the Mersey.

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So, Jeremy Corbyn left the Conference hotel a few

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minutes ago accompanied by six young people.

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Labour activists. The party has an been inundated by new member since

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Mr Corbyn became leader and many of them young.

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He will get to his feet in about 20 minutes and we're

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expecting him to speak for less than half an hour -

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And if that's the case it will be bit shortest Labour leader speech

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since Disraeli. He'll put the party on an election

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footing and outline ten policy pledges that Labour

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would deliver in government. But Mr Corbyn's bigger task

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is to try to bring the party together after another

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divisive leadership contest. What - if anything -

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will be his olive branch to MPs? And if the snap election that

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Jeremy Corbyn will warn of does materialise,

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what kind of position will the party We'll have Jeremy Corbyn's speech

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live and uninterrupted. That will be in about 20 minutes

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time. is the journalist and commentator,

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Rachel Shabi. Welcome back to the programme.

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What should Mr Corbyn do to reach out to those in the party,

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particularly the MPs that didn't want him as leader? Well, there is a

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couple of things he can do. One, of course, is to focus on the policy

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areas over which they are united. As it turns out there are plenty of

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those. They all agree about having an anti-austerity programme, about

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going big on infrastructure investment, investment in housing,

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support for the welfare state, support for comprehensive schools.

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There are lots of areas over which they can agree. But you are right,

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people who walked away over the summer are going to need a path

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back. They are going to need something to allow them to be able

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to reverse that decision made over the summer. And I would imagine

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Corbyn and his team are now in conversation with various people

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love exactly what can be made, what offers can be made to allow people

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to find a way back into the Shadow Cabinet. Does he need to bring what

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we might call the rebels, does he need to bring some of these

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prominent rebels back into the Shadow Cabinet? I think it depends.

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When he formed his first Shadow Cabinet when first elected as leader

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it was very much a unity cabinet, spanning across all of the diverse

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and varied factions of the Labour Party that have been one family for

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so long. That didn't really work out, and I think one of the reasons

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it didn't work out was some members of the Cabinet were not that unified

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in their approach. There was sniping, briefing to the press that

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was seen as undermining of both the cohesion of the Cabinet, of the

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Shadow Cabinet, and of the leadership itself. Were he to reach

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out across the party in the same way again there would need to be

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guarantees that that would stop, I think. Mr Corbyn's people have

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blamed the bad polling, particularly this summer because label-macro's

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been diverted by a never leadership contest within the space of one

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year. -- Labour's. When this is all behind him does he need to

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demonstrate he can prove the party's opinion poll ratings? Definitely. I

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think the divisions in the party and the fact people have been looking

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for months at a party in disarray are only part of the story in terms

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of the bad polling. Some of it is actually to do with his leadership,

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and I do think he does need to address that. A lot of people that

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I've spoken to in the last few days, people have been previously very

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cynical about his capacity as leader, have said they have seen a

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change. They have said that in the last few months specially he has

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raised his game. It's not perfect yet, it is a long way from that, but

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they are definitely saying they see signs of improvement. I think were

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he to continue along that same path, and at the same time draw on all of

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the wealth and experience that all of the factions of the Labour Party

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have to bring to the table, if they were behind him and enabling him

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with their talents, I think that would also make a big difference. On

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the eve of the conference Andy Burnham, now the outgoing Shadow

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Home Secretary because he's going to run for Mayor of London and

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favourite to win it, sorry, the Mayor of Manchester... As a Labour

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mayor. Sadiq Khan just spilt his Coffey, I think! Andy Burnham

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implied that there was a test -- coffee. That they had to see an

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improvement, because no one, these were his words, at the right to take

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Labour to a overstating defeat, he was referring to 2020. It is that

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realistic now? Is it realistic to think that if things don't get

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better Labour would change its leader again? I don't know. But I

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also think it's a long game. The problem is the Labour Party has had

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in terms of its own electability go beyond Jeremy Corbyn. They have been

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haemorrhaging support among the wider population for some time. They

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have lost two elections. Quite a low share of the vote too. Quite a low

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share of the vote, so the problems they need to address go beyond the

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leadership. They come down to finding a way to re-engage with the

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population, find a way to be engage with people, who for whatever

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reason, have become disillusioned with the Labour Party and whose

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votes they lost, and also the section of the population that just

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has not been interested in politics at all and doesn't vote. One of the

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encouraging thing is about Jeremy Corbyn's leadership is he has

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managed to start to speak to that section of the population. Perhaps

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reinvigorate an interest in politics? Yes. OK, we will talk

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about this and more. This time last year,

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the Labour conference kicked off with the announcement

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of Jeremy Corbyn's This year's conference started

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in similar fashion. But what about the

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intervening 12 months? Here's a reminder of how

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the year unfolded for And so I sent out an e-mail

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to thousands of people and asked them what questions

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they would like to put Public opinion is moving

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increasingly against what I believe to be an ill-thought-out

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rush to war. It is now time for us

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to do our bit in Syria. a politician resigning

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live on television. I've just written to Jeremy Corbyn

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to resign from the frontbench. I think that things

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are being said that have been briefed at and that I have seen

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being briefed at this morning REPORTER: Do you accept this has

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become something of a crisis? We were getting predictions that

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Labour was going to lose councils. Tonight at Ten, tributes

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to the Labour MP Jo Cox who has died after being stabbed and shot

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on a street in West Yorkshire. A real servant of democracy in every

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way one could want or imagine. The British people have spoken

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and the answer is - we're out. For all of this I express more

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sorrow, regret, and apology than I've been joined by the Shadow

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Education Secretary, Angela Rayner. Welcome back on the programme. You

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had two leadership elections in 12 months. Can we take it for granted

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now that if the election is in 2020 Mr Corbyn leads the Labour Party

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into that election? Well, I'm election fatigue in our party at the

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moment like most of our members are and we just want a bit of stability.

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We are all a bit tired now. So is its job done? I hope so, I hope we

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pulled together and lead an opposition to what the Conservative

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government are doing at the moment. I hope we pulled together because I

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think that's what the nation are willing us to do because they want

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to see in a position to be Conservative government and we must

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step up to the mark to be the opposition. At the moment you are

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ten or 12 points behind in the polls. Some of that Mr Corbyn's

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people blame on the fact you've been having your own leadership contest

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inwards. But there is also boundary changes coming up which will not be

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helpful for the Labour Party either. Although you want him to lead into

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the next election, does there come a time if there is no improvement in

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Labour's position, or it even gets worse, that the leadership issue is

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opened again? Jeremy Corbyn must prove himself to the public, no

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question about that. As I've always said respect is earned, not given.

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We got to do that, we have a task ahead of us but I think the general

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public are willing us on, they want Labour to be the opposition party

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then we could be and the government in waiting and we have a long way to

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go to prove that. I'm hoping and now we've had this summer of discontent

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we can unite together and move forward on that basis and give

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Jeremy the chance to lead our party with a big, strong team around him.

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Given the task ahead of you, it is quite a formidable task and the

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boundary changes do make it worse if they go through, and given the

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importance of immigration in the Brexit debate, particularly among

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Northern Labour voters, many of whom voted for Brexit, is it wise for

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your party and Mr Corbyn to take a leadership position on this that

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says he's not concerned about numbers and he doesn't care about

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bringing down immigration numbers? Is that wise? Well, many of my

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constituents talk to me about immigration and their concerns

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around it. I think what has happened is people especially in the north,

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and cities like my area, for example, felt they have taken a

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disproportionate effect from immigration and have not seen the

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investment in the public services, the undercutting of wages and we

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need to deal with those issues first serve the general public can have

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some confidence that actually immigration as a positive effect on

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all of our communities and we all do well from it. Is it wise, was my

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question, to say numbers are not the EC? Andrew, not talking about it is

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not wise either, that's what people are talking about on the doorstep --

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not the issue. Immigration can be good for business and good for the

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UK but it disproportionately affects some areas of the UK and we cannot

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deny that, we have to deal with the SU. Let me try one more time. Is it

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wise, given as you say, numbers are not the EC? What Jeremy said about

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numbers is its like pinning blancmange to the wall, you say one

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number... It disproportionately affects some areas. You may not need

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the same number in my area as you need in another area. The

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fundamental thing governments have failed to do and failed to respond

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to and prepare for immigration and prepare for what the Labour

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workforce needs and housing and services, and when you cut in those

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areas as well, this is the crucial bit, in areas like my area the

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public sector is a large employer and you've cut it back so much as

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well, is it has had this pinching effect on our communities and that

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is where tensions have come. Should there be controls on the numbers?

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Where there is a need for labour and you're making sure that it is not

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under cutting British workers in terms of their wage bill that we've

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got good housing in place, including council housing, it is not a dirty

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word. That's creating an environment for immigrants coming here and those

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that are living here. Should there be controls on the numbers coming?

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We already have controls because we're an island, but what

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happened... Well, we have free movement from the EU at the moment.

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Once we leave the EU should there be controls? There is no infrastructure

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and people can't move into a particular area, but what we have

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seen is a disproportionate effect on some areas and that's why people

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felt it significantly. What we need to be looking at is where we've got

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skills gaps and where we need people to come into work, we should be

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welcoming that, but we have to make sure that the infrastructure is in

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place. Angela Rayner, thank you very much.

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Let's look inside the hall. We welcome viewers from

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the BBC News Channel. Jeremy Corbyn will be giving his

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second keynote address to the party faithful gathered in the hall and to

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the wider public through channels like this as he begins to attempt to

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gel with the wider electorate because at the end, that's what

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matters if you want power, not to win leadership elections, but

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winning the elections in the country and that will be a two-pronged job

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he has to do today. One will be to attempt to try and bring the Labour

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Party together after the divisions over the summer, but begin to build

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a case for why Labour should form the next Government in 2020, should

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that be the time of the election. Not long to go now. We know a little

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bit of what he may say. Let's go over some of that. I'm joined by the

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BBC's assistant political editor, Norman Smith. Norman, it is good to

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see you. Immigration is going to be the big issue in this speech, is it

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not because of what he is not saying? It is not going to be a big

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issue because of what he does say, it is what he doesn't say and the

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build-up to this whole speech. He wanted to, he did want to raise the

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issue of immigration. He wanted to flag up his ideas of bringing back

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the migration impact fund which Gordon Brown introduced. The Tories

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have also committed to having a similar sort of thing, but they have

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not implemented it. They abolished the first one in 2011, but it was

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peanuts? It was 50 million. They only spent, they spent ?23

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billion... ?23 million in 2009 and another ?23 million in 2010 which I

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think you can see is nothing. He is now talking about spending more than

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?50 million is what he's saying, but the issue is, his overnight briefing

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from the spokesman which was so, I mean, it was just there in plaque

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and white, Labour is not about reducing immigration. There is very

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little wriggle room or ambiguity about that, it is straightforward.

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Understandably, it caused considerable alarm amongst many

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Labour MPs because they think it sounds like he is not listening to

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the electorate, it sounds like like two fingers to people who voted for

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Brexit. I mean, I think, it kind of has made what has been Jeremy

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Corbyn's implicit view for a long, long time. He is pretty relaxed

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about levels of immigration. And John McDonnell is too, isn't he? I

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think it kind of reflects a divide in Labour thinking between

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metropolitan Labour and northern Labour. You know, in the big cities,

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there is genuinely a more relaxed view, they take the view that

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immigration leads to a more diverse society and leads to innovation and

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energy, it is a good thing. Very different story in some of the old

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industrial mill towns where there aren't jobs, where there aren't

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businesses ad they are under real pressure. So that sort of issue on

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immigration has exposed the real tensions over Jeremy Corbyn's

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leadership and whether it is too London based. Rachel Shabi is with

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us helping us get through the speech today. Is this a tactical mistake by

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Mr Corbyn? Does it just follow what he has always believed? No, I really

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don't think it is a tactical mistake. I think it is long past

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time that the Labour Party started to talk about this. Look, the

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environment in which we discuss migration now has become so loaded

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and so difficult and that was exacerbated by the way we discussed

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Brexit that it is now very difficult for him to raise the issue that he

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is raising. That doesn't make it wrong, it makes it difficult. The

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truth of the matter, even Theresa May and her Conservative Government

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they though that a cut on migration would be bad for the economy. We all

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know that. Every economist knows that. They cannot say it out loud

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because they know it would not be popular to say it. Any cut? So what

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Jeremy Corbyn is trying to do is shift the focus. He's saying, "Look,

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we understand there are concerns about wage under cutting, about job

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insecurity, access to welfare, and access to house, not being able to

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see your doctor, sending your kid to a packed school." The cause is

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economics and austerity cuts and cutting public services so local

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authorities don't have the a capacity to cope and let's not,

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let's not blame migrants for that. Let's remove the economic causes for

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those concerns. But to do all of that, to build the housing, to

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improve the schools, to create the public services for a rising

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population, which is rising indigenously as well as rising for

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people coming in, don't you need a break until you get these things in

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place? But that's the thing about is that we actually, we don't need a

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break, we need to maintain the levels of migration that we have.

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330,000 net. And most importantly of all in all of this is that even

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people, people who voted for Brexit and people who think there is a

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problem with migration, the majority of those people polled would not be

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prepared to suffer financially as a trade off for a reduction in

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migration, that's what will happen. We need to be honest about saying

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that. I think Jeremy Corbyn is starting to initiate that

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conversation. It is really difficult, it is going against the

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grain. But it is a conversation. Norman Smith, it would seem from the

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briefing that we got that there is almost no talk of any kind of

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controls on EU migration after we leave, but when I interviewed Barry

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Gardener on the Daily Politics at lunch time today, he said there

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would be all manner of quality controls on immigration. To be

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honest, I didn't understand what he was saying. Did you? ? Is he talking

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about some kind of points-based system, is that what he means by

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quality controls that people will be assessed in terms of whether they

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had the right work qualifications, whether they had the educational

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qualifications. I don't know... But that's not the policy, is it? No,

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Jeremy Corbyn has been honest about this that he doesn't really believe

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in controls on EU migration. He does actually believe in freedom of

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movement, his argument there are plenty of Brits living abroad, if we

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start imposing curbs and there will be curbs imposed on them and he

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thinks that we do need large numbers of migrants because of the NHS and

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because of certain industries which rely on foreign labour and because

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of the benefits they bring to the economy. He is not suggesting there

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should be any controls. I'm not sure he would support any controls at

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all. He never articulated when he was asked about it. I mean, more

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broadly, it just seems to me this is an issue which has dogged Labour,

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almost for a decade now. It seems to be such a difficult conversation for

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Labour to have. I mean, you kind of go all the way back to Gordon Brown

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and Gillian Duffy and Ed Miliband and his last conference speech not

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mentioning immigration and now this and it seems to me Labour find it

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very hard to have this conversation about immigration. It is a really

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fraught issue for them and I think the reason for that, if I'm honest,

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is there is a Labour view that bluntly talking about numbers is

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border line racist and I think that's the view of some Labour

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people and that makes it very hard to have this discussion and they are

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still struggling to try and frame a debate which doesn't descend into a

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very, very politically charged one. The Labour Party particularly Mr

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Corbyn, has said that they need to be geared up for a quick election.

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There could be one happening early next year and that's a good thing if

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you want to promote unity. An election concentrates the mind, but

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it creates a problem for them too, because if they think that they will

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need to firm up on their policies and not just speak in slogans and

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that hasn't happened? No, Labour is travelling slogan heavy and policy

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light. We have had plenty of as ppiration and peace and justice. In

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terms of nitty-gritty, well, how is this going to be achieved? Well, we

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don't have much insight. I mean, I think, the general election plea

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warning is by and large a unity gambit. Just to say to Labour MPs,

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"For God's sake not have all this wrangling because we could be on the

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cusp of a general election." I'm not sure he actually believes in a few

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months we could be plunged into a general election. Theresa May has

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signalled she does not want to go down that road. It is harder than in

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previous years because of the fixed term Parliament Act. MPs would have

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to vote for an election? Indeed. It is part of Jeremy Corbyn's attempt

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to try and hold this party together at least in the short to medium-term

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because as you say if we were to go into a general election now, you've

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got a party which has been through the most acrimonious and difficult

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leadership contest with precious little detail in terms of policy

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with a leader who is still reviled by a significant part of his

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Parliamentary party. Reviled, is that an accurate enough word? It

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maybe overstating it, but there are members of his Parliamentary party

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who are never going to be reconciled to his leadership because they

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believe he has taken the Labour Party over a cliff. The John

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McDonnell speech, the Shadow Chancellor on Monday, a little bit

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of it was overshadowed when there was the argument about Clive Lewis

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and the changing of his speech on Trident, but at the centre of

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Labour's new chick policy is a massive increase in public

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investment to be financed largely by borrowing on the public purse. For a

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party that lost two elections in a row because it was seen to be profly

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gate with the public finances, how do you square that? As with

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everything else when it come to the Labour Party there is a lot of work

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to do. There is a lot of narrative shift that needs to take place in

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terms of public perception. As you rightly point out, there is a

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perception that the Labour Party is not that good with money basically.

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It can't be trusted with the economy. For some reason that

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narrative has become true or been perceived as true even though there

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is nothing to suggest that's the case. On the other hand, what we're

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looking at, we're looking at the Labour Party now trying to combat

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with an economic policy. That's a direct challenge to economics that

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have blatantly been seen to fail, not just with the economic crash,

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but with the fact that people are struggling. Wages are stagnating.

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People who are working very, very hard end up just standing still,

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going slowly backwards. Their kids aren't able to get houses or jobs.

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They can't afford university tuition fees. Everything is stagnant and

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people are waking up to the fact that an economic system is failing

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too many people. So what the Labour Party is trying to do and what this

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economic programme is about, is to try and reverse that. It is to try

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and address it. It is actually in line with a leading economist who

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are saying the same thing. You had too much austerity and liberalism is

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failing, we need to invest. We need to invest in public infrastructure.

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We need to invest in housing. The Government needs to borrow and

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invest in order to boost the economy. That's isn't a radical

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idea. That's become a centrist economic approach.

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We expect to hear from Mr Corbyn in at 2. .20pm. That's the Corbyn case

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for what is being done. Britain moved up to become the seventh most

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competitive economy in the world. All the countries that are still

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ahead of it, Singapore, Switzerland, the United States, Germany, none of

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them do what you've just said. Yes. But Britain is doing great as an

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economic power as you say, but it is doing really, really badly as

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sharing that economy around. Record unemployment? There is no need for

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foodbanks in a country that's one of the wealthiest in the world. There

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is no need for one in three children to be living below the poverty line.

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So it's not about the fact that Britain isn't a good economy, it is.

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But it is about finding a way to redistribute that and stop the

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rampant inequality that's caused so much hardship and so much pain for

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so many people. Norman Smith, we hear Rachel said it earlier in the

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programme that on so many policies Labour is united, Trident is an

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obvious one, that it is not, but on many other issues Labour is united.

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Is that true though in general of the debt financed public investment

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programme on the scale that Mr McDon't aland Mr Corbyn have been

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talking about, it is ?250 billion and sometimes ?500 billion depending

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on the article or the speech you read. Is there really unity on that?

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The deficit, which was like one of the defining issues in the run-up to

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the last election seems to have gone awol. I have not heard anyone really

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talking about the deficit here and if you think, you know, Ed Miliband,

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got slaughtered at his last conference speech, when he forgot to

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mention the deficit. I don't know whether John McDonnell mentioned it,

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maybe he did, it really has dropped off the political... George Osborne

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has stopped talking about it since Brexit. Isn't that why nobody is

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talking about? Not Conservatives, not the Labour Party. It is no

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longer an issue, is it? What has changed is the way the

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Labour Party is racking up a lot of bills and we have no clear idea how

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they will be paid for. If you go to the policies we have had, say in an

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area like education, with tuition fees being scrapped, maintenance

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grants coming back, CMAs coming back and there is a whole load of

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spending and we have no idea how it will be paid for. -- DMA. Whereas we

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previously had an environment where everyone had to think about the

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constraints of how much of the deficit we have, that is out of the

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window and does not form part of the economic argument. I was struck

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yesterday when Jeremy Corbyn was asked about the 500 billion figure

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and someone said to him, where did you get that figure? Is it just a

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nice round figure? And you wonder if the 500 billion figure has been

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plucked from anywhere without any solid analysis of where the cash

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will come from. I think there has been a total mind shift within

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Labour of balancing the deficit and now coming out with lots of

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extensive spending pledges which we don't know how they will be paid

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for. We will be drilling down on them when the Tories come out with

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the Autumn Statement. Although the deficit may not be up there as the

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most important economic indicator, which it was under Mr Osborne, Mr

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Hammond is not the kind of Chancellor who will forget about the

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deficit altogether. We were told the speech would start at 2020, it is

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now 2032, we were told it would be 20 minutes and now it's going to be

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50 minutes. He's probably listen to this discussion, and thought I would

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add in that point, Rachel made a very good point them let me add that

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income and even that too and if it carries on like this we could be

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here until midnight on this. With got the Tories next week. The next

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big economic event for us will be the Autumn Statement on November 23.

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We will see then, will we not, as Rachel said the deficit not at the

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centre, just what position it is now in under the May - Hammond

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government. That's absolutely true, everything changed with Brexit and

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Theresa May has said we don't have to worry about having a surplus by

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2020, Phillip Hammond has said they will have to make fiscal

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adjustments. The whole centre of gravity politically has changed from

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deficit reduction to post Brexit. That has changed everything and the

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focus now is on, what on earth will life be like outside the EU from

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previous sort of objective which was clawing our way back to balancing

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the books. That is not what we are about. That is a total game change.

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I mean, at the end of the day, I'm sure someone will have to start

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saying, OK, the deficit is going up, what will be done? You cannot put it

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off for ever and a day. Somewhere along the line we must address it,

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even in a post Brexit climate, it can't be put off for ever. The whole

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discussion which takes place, even with the Conservative saying we will

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not shoot for a surplus anymore and relaxed the fiscal conservatism. Mr

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McDonnell saying we will borrow 250, maybe 300, maybe 500, all of that is

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predicated on interest rates being low. Interest rates are low at the

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moment, historic lows. You can buy, governments can get debt ten years

:34:27.:34:32.

forward at .8%, the yield is very low, but this borrowing will be done

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in 2021 and we have no idea what interest rates will be by then. If

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they were hyped it would scupper all of this thinking. To a certain

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extent. A lot of this is premised, it is interest rates, as you say,

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but also the idea that you need to invest in order to generate income,

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it's not just that it's going to create jobs and therefore taxes and

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therefore an increased budget, it's that there is going to be more money

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circulating in the economy. This is nothing new. These are fairly sort

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of Keynesian -based mixed economy... This is nothing new, fairly centrist

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stuff we are talking about, just at the economic conversation has

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shifted so far to the right that maybe it sounds a bit odd but it's

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actually fairly ordinary, regular stuff. What you were talking about

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in terms of a post Brexit economy, I think this is one of the key areas.

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Sorry to interrupt, the Hillsborough campaigner Sheila Coleman is

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introducing the pre-video. We don't carry videos of any of the party

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conferences so we will leave the delegates to watch that and then we

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expect Mr Corbyn to start his speech and we will go straight into the

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hall for that. Sorry to interrupt. The Brexit issued you rightly raised

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was one of the best ways you could focus the Labour government, wishful

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thinking, the Labour Party! Right now, especially if they do think

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there will be a snap election. But the Conservatives are in disarray

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over Brexit, is it going to be hard, is it going to be soft? Single

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Market, not Single Market, they seemed to be clueless. I'm not sure

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what Labour's policy will be, you could file them both under C4

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clueless. That could be a unifying matter for Labour, they are much

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more unified than the Conservatives. Brexit is a gift for Labour, to me,

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because if you look at the Conservative Party, how many times

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have we been here again and again? Premierships have been undone by the

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iceberg of Europe and it seems to me that Theresa May must come up with a

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deal and although she doesn't give a running commentary somewhere down

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the line she has got to put down - this is what I'm suggesting. At that

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moment she must turn to her party and say- look at the deal I've got.

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There will be hard Brexit is who say "Is that it?" There is a moment when

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she has got to meet her party and sell it to her party. If team Corbyn

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can get their act together, if they can bring the Labour Party together

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that is an opportunity for them when they can pile in. But you have to

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say, given the week that they've just had, the tensions,

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difficulties, divisions and doubts over Mr Corbyn, it's an awfully big

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ask to think they are going to be in that position to see is that moment.

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We heard a policy from Mr McDonnell, still to be fleshed out, we will

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hear some policy from Mr Corbyn too, although from what I've seen still

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quite in headline terms. But is there not a danger that for Labour

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still there is a battle going on in the NEC, there could be a battle for

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the bureaucracy, including the regional leaders, boundary changes

:37:53.:37:58.

and creating an automatic selection process for MPs. On Saturday Jeremy

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Corbyn won a thumping great majority but the battle for the soul of the

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Labour Party is still raging. It is very far from over and moderates and

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centrists, call them what you will, they have not vanished over the

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horizon. They are gradually getting their act together. You do not think

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they are in retreat? They took a step back, of course. They lost the

:38:23.:38:25.

leadership election, they tried everything to stop Jeremy Corbyn,

:38:26.:38:29.

rule changes, keeping him off the ballot paper, stampeding him into

:38:30.:38:32.

resigning with the resignations but in a way they have grasped the

:38:33.:38:36.

gravity of their plight and they are beginning to organise. Tom Watson's

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speech yesterday was interesting with the pretty direct criticism of

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Jeremy Corbyn, likewise with Sadiq Khan. They have won the

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tussle over the NEC. I think they go away from this, not with their tail

:38:59.:39:02.

between their legs, yes, they have been batted, but the feeling they

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take away from this is we've got to do what team Corbyn does, we've got

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to organise. They are now talking a bit Momentum light with groups

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around the country to support MPs under pressure. So, again on, it's

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not all going Jeremy Corbyn's way. There are significant forces trying

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to claw back ground. The battle for the future of the Labour Party is

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far from over. Rachel Shabi, do you think we will see some bloody

:39:23.:39:29.

battles on the reselection - deselection front in certain

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constituencies? No I think there has been exaggerated. I don't think

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Jeremy Corbyn... He has specifically said we're not talking about

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deselection. I understand some local MPs might feel nervous about that

:39:44.:39:47.

but I do think there is a bigger picture here. It's a bit like

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running an organisation where there has been a culture change. Some

:39:51.:39:55.

people don't like the change and they will moan about it. Some at the

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top don't represent that change. The idea is to bring people with you,

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that is the idea, to bring people with you in the change but if they

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continue to resist it what do you do? Maybe we will find out in a

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minute. Let's go straight to the hall where the video has finished

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and Mr Corbyn is about to be introduced, the delegates are

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welcoming Mr Gobern, he's won to leadership elections in 12 months.

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-- Mr Corbyn. He will speak for 50 minutes which will take us to 3:30pm

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and then we will analyse what he has had to say afterwards. But we are

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going to bring you, as we always do, the leader's speech from all of the

:40:47.:40:51.

major party conferences live and uninterrupted. Let's dip into the

:40:52.:40:55.

hall as Mr Corbyn takes the applause and begins his address to the party

:40:56.:41:01.

faithful and to the wider electorate beyond.

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Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the Labour Party.

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CHANTING : yes you can.

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JEREMY CORBYN: thank you. Thank you so much for that welcome and that

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introduction. This hole is absolutely packed here today in

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Liverpool and we've even got an overspill down the road. I want to

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say thank you to everyone that is here today.

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I want, also, before I go into my speech, to say a huge thank you to

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all the staff of this conference Centre who have made us so welcome

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and worked so hard here today. I want to say thank you to all of

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our Labour Party staff for all of the work they've put in for this

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conference today and all the other days.

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And I want to say a big thank you to my own staff in my office in my

:42:27.:42:36.

constituency and in Parliament for the huge support they give me and

:42:37.:42:38.

give our party all the year round. But I've got to slightly correct

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myself because I did say the whole is completely packed. Well, I got a

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message on the way in from Virgin Trains.

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LAUGHTER They have assured me there are 800

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empty seats in the hall. APPLAUSE

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Either way, conference, it's a huge pleasure to be holding our party's

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annual conference at this fantastic city. The city of Liverpool that

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shaped our country, economy, culture and music. Liverpool has always been

:43:20.:43:25.

central to the Labour Party and our movement. And I know some people say

:43:26.:43:32.

campaigns and protests don't change things. But the Hillsborough

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families have shown just how wrong that is.

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It's taken 27 years, but those families have shown with great

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courage and dignity, finally, that you can get truth and justice for

:43:57.:44:01.

the 96 who died. I want to pay tribute to all the families and

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campaigners for their solidarity, their commitment and their love.

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Thank you. And, as Andy Burnham put it to

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conference this morning, we must learn from them, and we promised

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those campaigning for justice, for all grieve, for Shrewsbury Town for

:44:27.:44:31.

thousands of workers blacklisted for being trade unionists, we will

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support your battles for truth and justice and when we return to

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government we will make sure you have both.

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Because winning justice for all and changing society for the benefit of

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all is the heart of what Labour is about. So, yes, our party is about

:44:58.:45:03.

campaigning, and it's about protest too. But most of all it's about

:45:04.:45:09.

winning power in local and national government, to deliver the real

:45:10.:45:11.

change our country so desperately needs.

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That's why the central task of the whole Labour Party, the whole Labour

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Party, must be to rebuild trust and support to win the next general

:45:29.:45:31.

election. APPLAUSE And form the next

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Government. That is the Government I'm determined to lead to win power

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for change, for Britain for the benefit of working people.

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APPLAUSE Everyone of us in this hall today

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knows that we will only get there if we work together and I think it is

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fair to say after what we've been through these past few months it

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hasn't always been exactly the case. Those months have been a testing

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time for the whole party. First, the horrific murder of Jo Cox, followed

:46:13.:46:16.

by the shock of the referendum result and then the tipping over of

:46:17.:46:21.

divisions in Parliament into the leadership contest that ended last

:46:22.:46:28.

Saturday. Jo's killing was a hate-filled attack on democracy that

:46:29.:46:33.

shocked the whole country. Jo Cox didn't just believe in loving her

:46:34.:46:38.

neighbour. She believed in loving her neighbour's neighbour and that

:46:39.:46:42.

every life counted and as Jo said in her maiden speech as an MP, we have

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far more in common with each other than things that divide us. Let that

:46:52.:46:56.

essential truth guide us as we come together again to challenge this

:46:57.:47:00.

Tory Government, and its shaky grip on power.

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APPLAUSE In Jo's memory, thanks for everything she did and thanks to her

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family and all her close friends por all they've been through and the

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solidarity they've shown together. So we may all learn from her life.

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APPLAUSE We've also lost good MPs like Michael Meacher and Harry

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Harpen, they were Labour through and through, passionate campaigners for

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a better world. Let me also pay a particular tribute

:47:40.:47:43.

to those Parliamentary colleagues who stepped forward in the summer to

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fill the gaps in the Shadow Cabinet. APPLAUSE And ensure that Labour

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could function as an effective opposition in Parliament. They

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actually didn't seek office, but they stepped up when their party and

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in fact the country needed them to serve. They all deserve the respect

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and gratitude of our party and movement and this conference should

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thank them today. They are our future.

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APPLAUSE We've just had our second leadership

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election within a year. It had its fraught moments, of course, not only

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for Owen Smith and me, and I hope we don't make a habit of it!

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LAUGHTER But there have been some up sides to

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it, over 150,000 new members have joined our party.

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APPLAUSE Young rising stars have shone on the

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frontbench and we found that the party is more united on policy than

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we would ever have guessed. I'm honoured, deeply honoured to have

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been re-elected by our party a second time with an even bigger

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mandate. APPLAUSE But we all have lessons to

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learn and a responsibility to do things better and to work together

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more effectively. I will lead in learning those lessons and I'd like

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to thank Owen too for the campaign and for his work as Shadow Work and

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Pensions secretary. APPLAUSE

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And also, of course, to the Labour Party staff, our own teams and the

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brilliant teams that support all of our members of Parliament and our

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party around the country. One lesson is that there is a responsibility on

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all of us to take care with our rhetoric. Respect democratic

:50:14.:50:18.

decisions, respect our differences and respect each other. We know that

:50:19.:50:24.

robust debate has at times spilled over into abuse and hate around our

:50:25.:50:29.

country. Including miss son-in-lawing knee

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country. Including miss APPLAUSE We have more of our fellow

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citizens in our party than all the other political parties in Britain

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put together. APPLAUSE

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Some may see this as a threat, but I see it as a vast democratic

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resource. Our hugely increased membership is part of a movement

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that can take Labour's message into every community and win support for

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the election of a Labour Government. APPLAUSE Each and every one of these

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new members is welcome in our party. And after a ten year absence, we

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welcome back the Fire Brigades' Union into our party and to our

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conference. APPLAUSE We are reuniting the Labour

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family, but I want to also if I may to say thank you to the firefighters

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and indeed all of the public sector workers who worked so hard to save

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people during the floods last winter. Thank you for everything you

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do. APPLAUSE

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And over the past year, we've shown what Labour can do when the party

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stands together. At conference a year ago, I launched our campaign

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against cuts to tax credits and we succeeded in knocking this

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Government back. APPLAUSE

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This year, this year, three million families are over ?1,000 better off

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because Labour stood together. APPLAUSE

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In the Budget, the Government tried to take away billions from disabled

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people, but we defeated them on that.

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APPLAUSE And we won all four Parliamentary by-elections and I

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welcome our new colleagues into Parliament and the great victories

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they achieved. APPLAUSE

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In the May elections, we overtook the Tories to become the largest

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party nationally. We won back London with a massive win for Sadiq Khan,

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the first Muslim Mayor of A western capital city. My congratulations

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Sidique for that incredible win. APPLAUSE

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And we won the Bristol mayor for the first time.

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APPLAUSE The first black Mayor of Any

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European city. My congratulations to Marvin. And we also won the mayor in

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Salford and right here in Liverpool. Congratulations.

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That's the road of advance we have to return to if we're going to

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challenge the Tories for power and turn the huge growth in the Labour

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Party into electoral support we need right across Britain.

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There is no doubt that my election as Labour leader a year ago and

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re-election this month grew out of a thirst for a new kind of politics

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and a conviction that the old way of running the economy in the country

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isn't delivering for more and more people. It's not, I promise you

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about me, of course, or unique to Britain, but across Europe, and

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North America and elsewhere, people are fed-up with the so-called

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free-market system that has produced grotesque inequality, stagnating

:55:54.:55:57.

living standards, and many calamitous foreign wars out end and

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a political stitch-up which leaves the vast majority of people shut out

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of power. Since the crash of 2008, the demand for an alternative and an

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end to counter productive austerity has led to the rise of new movements

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and parties in one country after another. But in Britain, it has

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happened in a different way. In the heart of traditional politics, in

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the Labour Party. Which is something we should be extremely proud of. It

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is exactly what Labour was founded for, to be the voice of the many of

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social justice and progressive change from the bottom up.

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APPLAUSE But it also means it is no good

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harking back to the tired old economic and political fixes of 20

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and 30 years ago because they won't work anymore. The old model is

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broken. We're in a new era. That demands a politics and economics

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that meets the needs of our own time.

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Actually, even Theresa May gets it, sort of!

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LAUGHTER That people want change, that's why

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she stood on the steps of Downing Street and talked about the

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inequalities and burning injustice in today's Britain.

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LAUGHTER Well, she said it!

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LAUGHTER In fact, she promise add country

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that works not for a privileged few, but for every one of us.

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But even if she manages to talk the talk, there are problems about

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walking the walk! This isn't a new Government. It's

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David Cameron's Government repackaged with progressive slogans,

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but with a new harsh right-wing edge. Taking the country backwards

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and dithering before the historic challenges of Brexit.

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APPLAUSE Who seriously believes that the Tories could ever stand up to

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the privileged few? They are the party of the privileged

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few. APPLAUSE

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Funded by the privileged few, for the benefit of the privileged few.

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APPLAUSE Theirs is a party after all that now

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wants to force through an undemocratic boundary review based

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on an out of date version of the electoral register with nearly two

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million voters missing. They've dressed it up as a bid to cut the

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cost of politics. By abolishing 50 constituencies, but the ?12 million

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savings are dwarfed by the expense of the 260 peers David Cameron

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appointed at a cost of ?34 million a year.

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APPLAUSE It's nothing more than a sin deal attempt to gerrymander the

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next election. APPLAUSE

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And this is from a Prime Minister who was elevated to a job without a

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single vote being cast after a pantomime fuss which saw one leading

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Tory after another falling on their swords. When I meet Theresa May

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across the dispatch box I know that only one of us has been elected to

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the office they hold by the votes of a third of a million people.

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APPLAUSE In any case, the Tories are simply

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incapable of responding to the breakdown of the old economic model

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because that failed model is absolutely in their political DNA.

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It is what they deliver every time they're in Government. Tory

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Governments deregulate, they outsource and privatise and stand by

:00:23.:00:26.

as inequality grows. They have cut taxes for the privileged few and

:00:27.:00:30.

sold off our national assets, calls on the cheap and turned a blind eye

:00:31.:00:35.

to their chronic tax avoidance. They're so committed to the

:00:36.:00:40.

interests of the very richest, they've recruited Sir Philip Green

:00:41.:00:48.

into Government as an efficiency tsar, I'm not sure what a an

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efficiency tsar does, Government might be more efficient if the super

:00:54.:00:57.

rich like Sir Philip actually paid their taxes.

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APPLAUSE when government steps back there are

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consequences for every one of us. What's happened to housing under the

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Tories. House-building has fallen to the lowest level since the 1920s,

:01:26.:01:29.

nearly a century ago. Homeownership is falling as more people are priced

:01:30.:01:37.

out of the market. Evictions, and disgracefully homelessness and a

:01:38.:01:41.

rough sleeping go up month after month, year after year. Council

:01:42.:01:46.

homes are being sold off without being replaced. And another

:01:47.:01:50.

consequence of that is that we, all of us, are paying over ?9 billion a

:01:51.:01:54.

year to private landlords in housing benefit to pay the rent. Instead of

:01:55.:02:01.

spending public money on building council housing we are subsidising

:02:02.:02:05.

private landlords. That's wasteful, inefficient, and frankly poor

:02:06.:02:08.

government. So, Labour will, as Teresa Pearce

:02:09.:02:22.

said, build over 1 million new homes, at least half of them council

:02:23.:02:26.

homes and we will control private rents so we can give every British

:02:27.:02:29.

family that basic human rights, decent home.

:02:30.:02:32.

It's the same in the jobs market. Without proper employment regulation

:02:33.:02:43.

there has been an explosion of temporary, insecure jobs. Nearly 1

:02:44.:02:49.

million people on zero-hours contracts not knowing what their

:02:50.:02:54.

earnings are going to be. There are now 6 million working people earning

:02:55.:02:58.

less than the Living Wage and the poverty amongst those in work is at

:02:59.:03:04.

record levels. That didn't happen by accident. The Tories have torn up

:03:05.:03:09.

employment rights, and deliberately tried to weaken the organisations

:03:10.:03:14.

that get people justice in work, the trade unions.

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Of course, trade unions are not taking this lying down. Look at the

:03:17.:03:29.

great campaign Unite has waged at Sports Direct to get justice for

:03:30.:03:30.

exploited workers. And hold Mike Ashley to account.

:03:31.:03:41.

That is why Labour will repeal the trade union act and set unions free

:03:42.:03:45.

to do their jobs defending and supporting their members and rights

:03:46.:03:46.

at work. And we will raise the minimum wage

:03:47.:04:18.

to a real Living Wage that brings working people out of poverty and we

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will ban zero-hours contracts, as John McDonnell...

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APPLAUSE ... John McDonnell, our Shadow

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Chancellor and Ian Lavery set this out very clearly at conference this

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week. And then there is the scandal of the privatised railways.

:04:34.:04:38.

More public subsidy than under the days of British rail, all going to

:04:39.:04:45.

private firms, and more delays, more cancellations, and on top of that

:04:46.:04:50.

the highest fares in Europe. That's why the great majority of British

:04:51.:04:54.

people back Labour's plan set out so well by Andrew McDonald this week to

:04:55.:04:59.

take the railways back into public ownership.

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But if you want the most spectacular example of what happens when

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government steps back, the global banking crash is an object lesson of

:05:27.:05:31.

greed and speculation and deregulation that crashed economies

:05:32.:05:35.

across the globe and required the biggest ever government intervention

:05:36.:05:39.

and public bailout in history. Millions of ordinary families paid

:05:40.:05:46.

the price of that failure. I pledge that Labour will never let a few

:05:47.:05:49.

reckless bankers wreck our economy again.

:05:50.:05:53.

So, Labour is offering solutions during this summer's leadership

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campaign I set out ten pledges which I believe can be the platform of our

:06:09.:06:12.

party's programme for the next election. They were put a conference

:06:13.:06:16.

yesterday in an NEC statement. They lay out the scope of the change we

:06:17.:06:22.

need to see. For full employment, a homes Guaranty, security at work, a

:06:23.:06:26.

strong, public National Health Service and social care, a national

:06:27.:06:33.

education service for all, action on climate change, public ownership and

:06:34.:06:38.

control of our services, the cut in inequality of income and wealth,

:06:39.:06:42.

action to secure an equal society and peace and justice at the heart

:06:43.:06:44.

of our foreign policy. Don't worry, Conference, they are

:06:45.:07:00.

not the Ten Commandments. I haven't come down from the mountain with

:07:01.:07:06.

them. They are here already and they will now, of course, go to the

:07:07.:07:09.

national policy Forum and the whole party needs to build on them, all

:07:10.:07:14.

our brilliant members have ideas, imagination and inspiration. We want

:07:15.:07:20.

to hear to have your help on refining those policies, and above

:07:21.:07:24.

all, take them out of the people of this country, take them out so that

:07:25.:07:28.

we get support on them. But those ten pledges, the core of the

:07:29.:07:31.

platform on which I was re-elected will now form the framework of what

:07:32.:07:36.

the Labour Party will campaign for and what the Labour government will

:07:37.:07:41.

do. Together, they show the direction of change we are

:07:42.:07:45.

determined to take command outline a programme to rebuild and transform

:07:46.:07:51.

Britain. They are rooted in traditional Labour values and

:07:52.:07:55.

objectives. But they are shaped to meet the challenges of the

:07:56.:08:02.

21st-century. They are values Labour is united on. They reflect the views

:08:03.:08:06.

and aspirations of the majority of our people, and they are values our

:08:07.:08:11.

country can and will support as soon as they are given the chance to do

:08:12.:08:12.

it. These pledges are not just words.

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Already across the country Labour councils are putting Labour values

:08:25.:08:28.

into action in a way that makes a real difference to the millions of

:08:29.:08:31.

people, despite cynical government funding cuts that have hit Labour

:08:32.:08:36.

councils, often representing the poorest parts of the country five

:08:37.:08:39.

times as hard as Tory run areas. Good examples like Nottingham City

:08:40.:08:53.

Council setting up the not for profit Robin Hood energy company to

:08:54.:08:55.

provide affordable energy. Or Cardiff bus company taking

:08:56.:09:05.

100,000 customers every day publicly owned with a passenger panel to hold

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its directors to account. APPLAUSE

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Or Preston council working to favour local procurement and keep money in

:09:15.:09:18.

the town. Or Newcastle council providing free

:09:19.:09:23.

Wi-Fi in 69 public buildings across the city.

:09:24.:09:25.

Or Croydon council which has set up the company to build 1000 new homes,

:09:26.:09:29.

and as Councillor Alison Butler said we can no longer afford to sit back

:09:30.:09:34.

and let the market take its course. Or Glasgow, that has established a

:09:35.:09:39.

high quality and flexible working places for start-up, high-growth

:09:40.:09:43.

companies in dynamic new sectors. For, right here in Liverpool, set to

:09:44.:09:47.

be at the global forefront of a new wave of technology - the ?50 million

:09:48.:09:56.

business hub that aims to create 300 start-up businesses and 1000 jobs

:09:57.:10:00.

over the next decade. There are many other examples. It's a proud Labour

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record, each and every Labour councillor deserves our heartfelt

:10:06.:10:09.

thanks for the work they do and the difficulties they endure in doing

:10:10.:10:10.

it. But I want to go further because we

:10:11.:10:24.

want local government to go further and put public enterprise back into

:10:25.:10:27.

the heart of our economy and services to meet the needs of local

:10:28.:10:33.

communities. Municipal socialism for the 21st-century as an engine of

:10:34.:10:37.

local growth and development. That's why I'm announcing that Labour will

:10:38.:10:41.

remove the artificial borrowing cap and allow councils to borrow against

:10:42.:10:47.

their housing stock. That single measure alone...

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APPLAUSE ... That single measure alone would

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allow them to build an extra 12,000 council homes a year. Labour

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councils increasingly have a policy of in-house as the preferred

:11:08.:11:11.

provider and many councils have brought bin collections, cleaners

:11:12.:11:16.

and IT services back in-house in sourcing privatised contracts to

:11:17.:11:21.

save money for council taxpayers and ensure good terms and conditions for

:11:22.:11:23.

their staff. I have said that Labour will put

:11:24.:11:37.

security at work and employment and union rights from day one, centre

:11:38.:11:41.

stage. But one in six workers in Britain are now self-employed. Their

:11:42.:11:47.

right to value their independence but for too many it comes with

:11:48.:11:51.

insecurity and a woeful lack of rights. So we will review

:11:52.:11:54.

arrangements for self-employed people, including Social Security

:11:55.:11:59.

that self-employed people pay for in their taxes yet aren't fully covered

:12:00.:12:04.

by it. We will ensure that successful innovators have access to

:12:05.:12:09.

the finance necessary to take their ideas to the next level, grow their

:12:10.:12:14.

businesses and generate employment. So as part of our workplace 2020

:12:15.:12:19.

review we will make sure that our tax and social security arrangements

:12:20.:12:23.

are fit for the 21st-century, consulting with self-employed

:12:24.:12:26.

workers and the Federation of Small Business is.

:12:27.:12:29.

If the Tories are the party of cuts and short-term as an, Labour is the

:12:30.:12:41.

party of investing for the future. With the same level of investment as

:12:42.:12:53.

other major economies we could be so much more, unlock so much skill,

:12:54.:13:00.

ingenuity and wealth. That's why we will establish a national investment

:13:01.:13:05.

bank at the heart of our plan to rebuild and transform this country.

:13:06.:13:10.

And we will borrow to invest at historically low interest rates to

:13:11.:13:14.

generate far greater returns. It would be foolish not to because that

:13:15.:13:19.

investment is expanding the economy and the income it generates for us

:13:20.:13:24.

all in the process. Even this government, after years of austerity

:13:25.:13:27.

and savage cuts is starting to change its tune. I'm not content

:13:28.:13:34.

with accepting second class broadband. Not content with creaking

:13:35.:13:40.

railways. Not content with seeing the United States and Germany

:13:41.:13:44.

investing in cutting-edge and green technologies, while we lag behind.

:13:45.:13:48.

Last year, for example, the Prime Minister promised a universal

:13:49.:13:54.

service obligation of 10 megabytes broadband. But since then the

:13:55.:13:59.

government has done nothing, letting down entrepreneurs, businesses and

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families, especially those in rural areas that want to grow the economy.

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That's why we have set out proposals for in national investment bank with

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500 billion of investment to bring our broadband, railways, our housing

:14:14.:14:17.

and our energy infrastructure up to scratch.

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A country that doesn't invest is a country that has given up, that has

:14:20.:14:34.

taken the path of managed decline. A Labour government will never accept

:14:35.:14:35.

second best for this country. Our country's history is based on

:14:36.:14:50.

individual ingenuity and collective endeavour. We other country of Ada

:14:51.:14:56.

Lovelace, Alan Turing, Tim Berners-Lee, is about Kingdom Brunel

:14:57.:15:01.

and the George Stephenson, Eric Laithwaite, brilliant people that

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created and develop so much. But the Tories have turned their back on

:15:09.:15:12.

this proud British tradition. They have put privatisation and cutting

:15:13.:15:18.

spending first. Britain now spends less on research as a share of

:15:19.:15:22.

national income than France, Germany and the US and China. A Labour

:15:23.:15:27.

government will bring research and development up to 3% of GDP.

:15:28.:15:31.

Yesterday Rebecca Long-Bailey set out the terms of our industrial

:15:32.:15:48.

strategy review. We need an economy that works for every part of this

:15:49.:15:53.

country so that no community is left behind. And today I'm asking

:15:54.:15:59.

everyone, businesses, academics, workers, trade unions, and anyone

:16:00.:16:02.

who cares about our future prosperity to have a say in that

:16:03.:16:06.

review. We are a wealthy country, not just in terms of money. We are

:16:07.:16:11.

rich in talent, Rich in potential, that's why we have proposed a

:16:12.:16:15.

comprehensive national education service at the heart of our

:16:16.:16:19.

programme for government to deliver high quality education for all

:16:20.:16:20.

throughout our lives. Education has always been a core

:16:21.:16:45.

Labour value. From the time of the MP for Jarrow and a national

:16:46.:16:49.

education system will be an essential part of a 21st estate.

:16:50.:16:57.

People need to upgrade their skills without falling into debt. Britain

:16:58.:17:02.

falls behind others in productivity, partly that's about investing in

:17:03.:17:05.

technology and infrastructure and partly it is about investing in

:17:06.:17:10.

people and their skills. How can we build and expand the sectors of the

:17:11.:17:15.

future without a skilled workforce? But this Conservative Government has

:17:16.:17:20.

slashed adult education budgets. Taking away opportunities for people

:17:21.:17:24.

to develop their skills and leaving businesses struggling to find the

:17:25.:17:27.

skilled workforce they need to succeed. So today, I'm offering

:17:28.:17:32.

business a new settlement. A new deal to rebuild Britain. Under

:17:33.:17:38.

Labour, we will provide the investment to rebuild Britain's

:17:39.:17:41.

infrastructure. We will fund that investment because it will lead to a

:17:42.:17:45.

more productive economy. Providing the basis on which our economy and

:17:46.:17:50.

our businesses can thrive. Helping to provide over one million good

:17:51.:17:53.

jobs and opportunities for businesses. But investment in

:17:54.:17:58.

capital must include investment in human capital. The skilled workers

:17:59.:18:02.

needed to make our economy a success. So this is the deal Labour

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will offer to Beus -- to help pay for a national education service,

:18:08.:18:11.

we'll ask you to pay a little more in tax. We've already started to set

:18:12.:18:16.

out some of this, pledging to raise corporation tax by less than 1.5% to

:18:17.:18:22.

give an Education Maintenance Allowance to college students,

:18:23.:18:25.

grants to university students, so that every young learner can afford

:18:26.:18:30.

to support themselves as they develop skills and get

:18:31.:18:34.

qualifications. APPLAUSE

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Business shares in economic success and it must contribute to it too.

:18:49.:18:54.

And I recognise that good businesses deserve a level playing field. So I

:18:55.:18:59.

also pledge to good businesses that we will clamp down on those that

:19:00.:19:04.

dodge their taxes, you should not be under cut by those that don't play

:19:05.:19:10.

by the rules. APPLAUSE There is nothing more

:19:11.:19:18.

unpatriotic than not paying your taxes. Frankly, it is an act of

:19:19.:19:23.

vandalism, damaging our National Health Service, damaging older

:19:24.:19:27.

people's social care, damaging younger people's education, so a

:19:28.:19:32.

Labour Government will make the shabby tax avoidance a thing of the

:19:33.:19:37.

past. APPLAUSE Our national education

:19:38.:19:47.

service is going to be every bit as vital as our National Health Service

:19:48.:19:52.

has become. And we recognise that education isn't simply about

:19:53.:19:57.

preparing for the workplace. It is also about exploration of knowledge

:19:58.:20:01.

and unlocking the creativity that's there in every human being. So all

:20:02.:20:06.

scul pupils should have the chance to learn an instrument, take part in

:20:07.:20:11.

drama and dance, have regular access to a theatre, gallery, museum in

:20:12.:20:16.

their local area. So that's why we will introduce an arts pupil premium

:20:17.:20:23.

to every primary school in England and Wales and consult on the

:20:24.:20:29.

national design and roll-out to extend this pupil premium to all

:20:30.:20:34.

secondary schools. This will be a ?160 million boost to schools to

:20:35.:20:39.

invest in projects that support cultural activities to school over

:20:40.:20:42.

the longer term. It could hardly be more different from the Tory

:20:43.:20:46.

approach to education. Their only plan is the return of grammar school

:20:47.:20:52.

segregation and second class schooling for the majority.

:20:53.:20:58.

APPLAUSE And what a great job, Angela Rayner

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is doing in opposing them in this! APPLAUSE

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So this Saturday, 1st October, I want you to take this message into

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your community, that Labour is standing up for education for all.

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APPLAUSE Grammar schools are not the only way the Tories are bringing

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division back into our society. They're also using the tried and

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tested tricks of demonising and scapegoating to distract from their

:21:47.:21:51.

failures. Whether it is single mothers, unemployed people, disabled

:21:52.:21:56.

people or migrants, Tory failure is always someone else's fault.

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APPLAUSE And those smears have consequences from children being

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bullied in school, to attacks on the street such as the rise in

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disability hate crime. I'm so proud of this party. In the last year we

:22:17.:22:20.

stood up to the Government on cuts to disabled people's benefits and

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cuts to working families tax credits and on Monday our shadow work Work

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and Pensions Secretary announced we would be scrapping the sanctions

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regime and the degrading work capability assessment.

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Plus plus as politicians, as political activists, as citizens we

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have zero tolerance towards those who whip up hate and division. Stand

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together against racism, Islamophobia and anti-semitism and

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defend those being demonised. APPLAUSE It has been shaming to our

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multi-cultural society that assaults on migrants have increased sharply

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since the referendum campaign. A campaign that pedalled myths and

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whipped up division. It isn't migrants that drive down wages. It

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is exploitive employers and the politicians who deregulate the

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labour market and rip up trade union rights.

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APPLAUSE It isn't migrants who put a strain

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on our National Health Service. It only keeps going because of the

:23:55.:23:58.

migrant nurses and doctors who come here filling the gaps left by

:23:59.:24:02.

politicians who failed to invest in training.

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APPLAUSE It isn't migrants that have caused a

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housing crisis, it is a Tory Government that has failed to build

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homes. APPLAUSE Immigration can certainly

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put extra pressure on services that's why under Gordon Brown Labour

:24:25.:24:30.

set up the migrant impact fund to provide extra funding to communities

:24:31.:24:34.

that have the largest rises in populations. Good plan. Very

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effective. What did the Tories do? They abolished it. Then they

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demonise the migrants for putting pressure on services. A Labour

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Government will not offer false promises on immigration as the

:24:48.:24:55.

Tories have done, we will not sow division by fanning the flames of

:24:56.:24:58.

fear, whatever the outcome of Brexit negotiations and make the changes

:24:59.:25:03.

that are needed. We will act decisively to end the under cutting

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of workers pay and conditions through the exploitation of migrant

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labour and agency working which would reduce the number of migrant

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workers in the process. APPLAUSE

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And we will ease the pressure on hard-pressed public services that

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are struggling to absorb Tory austerity cuts in communities

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absorbing new populations. Labour will reinstate the migrant impact

:25:30.:25:34.

fund and give extra support to areas of high migration, using the visa

:25:35.:25:39.

levy for its intended purpose. APPLAUSE

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And we'll add a citizenship application fee levy to boost the

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fund. That is the Labour way to tackle social tension. Investment

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and assistance, not racism and division.

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APPLAUSE This party campaigned hard to remain in the European Union and

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I spoke at rallies from Cornwall to Aberdeen for our Labour campaign to

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remain and reform, but although most Labour voters backeds, we did not

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convince millions of Labour voters especially in those parts of the

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country left behind, left behind by years of neglect and under

:26:25.:26:26.

investment and de-industrialisation, now we have to face the future

:26:27.:26:31.

together. We're not helped by patronising or lecturing those in

:26:32.:26:34.

our communities who voted to leave, they have to hear their concerns

:26:35.:26:39.

about jobs, public services, wages, immigration, and a future for their

:26:40.:26:42.

children and we have to respect their votes and the decision of the

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British people. Of course, that does not mean giving a blank cheque to

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Theresa May and her three legged team of fractious Brexiteers as they

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work up a negotiating plan, but it is unfortunately they have a

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distraction from that because they have to squabble about whose turn it

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is to go to a country retreat each weekend! We've made it clear that we

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will resist a Brexit at the expense of workers' rights and social

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justice. APPLAUSE

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We've set out our red lines on employment, environmental and social

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protection, and on access to the European market. But we will also be

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pressing our own Brexit agenda including the freedom to intervene

:27:37.:27:41.

in our own industries like steel. Without the obligation to liberalise

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or privatise public services. APPLAUSE

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And building a new relationship with Europe based on co-operation and

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internationalism. And as Europe faces the impact of a refugee

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crisis, fuelled by wars across the Middle East, we have to face the

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role that repeated military interventions by British and other

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governments have played in that crisis.

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APPLAUSE The Chilcot Report made absolutely

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clear the lessons to be learnt from the disastrous invasion and

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occupation of Iraq, just as this month the Foreign Affairs Select

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Committee report into the war in Libya demonstrated. Those lessons

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have still to be learned a decade on.

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APPLAUSE The consequence of those wars have

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been a spread of terrorism, and violence across and that displaced

:28:44.:28:46.

millions of people, forcing them from their countries. That's why I

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believe it was right to apologise on behalf of the party for the Iraq

:28:51.:28:53.

war. Right to say that we learned the lessons.

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APPLAUSE And right to say... And right to say

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that such a ka tros it is a trofy must never be allowed to happen

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again. We need a foreign policy based on peace, justice and Human

:29:30.:29:32.

Rights. I tell you this today what great news it is to hear the peace

:29:33.:29:36.

treaty that's been agreed in Columbia after 50 years of

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devastating war. APPLAUSE

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And we need to honour our international treaty obligations on

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nuclear disarmament as much as we do on Human Rights and other things and

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encourage others to do the same. But we're a long way from that

:29:56.:29:59.

humanitarian vision. Britain continues to sell arms to Saudi

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Arabia, a country the United Nations says is committing repeated

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violations of international hult war, war yims in Yemen and on

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Sunday, it was good to stand alongside the Yemeni community here

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in Liverpool who endorsed our call to end those arms sales to Saudi

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Arabia. APPLAUSE

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Just as the war crimes that are going on in other places such as

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Syria. There has to be a political solution to the conflicts.

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APPLAUSE Today I make it clear that under a

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Labour government when there are credible reports of human rights

:30:52.:30:55.

abuses British arms sales will be suspended, starting with Saudi

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Arabia. Last year the votes we needed to win

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power went many different ways in all parts of our country, while

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millions of our potential voters stayed home. Many didn't believe

:31:32.:31:36.

that we offered an alternative, it is true there is an electoral

:31:37.:31:42.

mountain to climb. But if we focus everything on the needs and

:31:43.:31:45.

aspirations of middle and lower-income voters, of ordinary

:31:46.:31:51.

families, if we demonstrate we have a viable alternative to the

:31:52.:31:56.

Government's failed policies I'm convinced, absolutely convinced, we

:31:57.:32:00.

can build the electoral support that can beat the Tories.

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This means being the voice of women, of young people, pensioners, middle

:32:04.:32:17.

and lower-income workers, the unemployed, the self-employed,

:32:18.:32:19.

minority communities and those struggling with the impact of

:32:20.:32:23.

migration and work and everyone struggling to get on and trying to

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secure a better life for themselves, their families and their

:32:29.:32:36.

communities. Running throughout history is the struggle for equality

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by rampant inequality has become the great scandal of our time, sapping

:32:40.:32:46.

the potential of our Society, tearing at its fabric. Labour's goal

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isn't just greater inequality of wealth and income. It's also about

:32:51.:32:55.

powerful stop our aim could not be more ambitious. We want a new

:32:56.:33:00.

settlement for the 21st-century in politics, in business, our

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communities, with the environment, and in our relations with the rest

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of the world. Every one of us in the Labour Party is motivated by the cap

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of what our country is and what it could be. -- by the gap.

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APPLAUSE We know that in the sixth largest

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economy in the world the food banks, stunted life chances and growing

:33:28.:33:31.

poverty alongside wealth on an undreamt of scale are a mark of a

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shameful and totally unnecessary failure.

:33:36.:33:38.

We know how great this country could be for all its people with a new

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political and economic settlement with new forms of democratic

:33:53.:33:56.

ownership driven by investment in the technology and industries of the

:33:57.:34:01.

future, with decent jobs, education and housing for all, with local

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services run by and for people, not outsourced to faceless corporations.

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This is not backward looking. This is very much the opposite. It's the

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socialism of the 21st-century. Our job is now to win over the

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unconvinced of our vision. Only that way can we secure the Labour

:34:31.:34:35.

government we need. And let's be frank, no one would be convinced of

:34:36.:34:39.

the vision promoted by a divided party. We all agree on that.

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APPLAUSE So I ask each and every one of you

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to accept the decision of the members, and the trench warfare, and

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work together to take on the Tories! Conference, anything else is a

:34:52.:35:32.

luxury that the millions of people who depend on Labour cannot afford.

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We know there will be local elections next May. In Scotland

:35:39.:35:43.

where we won three by-elections this summer in Wales, thank you Labour

:35:44.:35:50.

Scotland, Wales and across the counties in England, and Metro

:35:51.:35:55.

mayoral elections, including right here on Merseyside, where my good

:35:56.:35:59.

friend Steve Rotheram will be standing as Labour's candidate.

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Steve, best of luck. I will miss your comradeship, your humour, your

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criticism. LAUGHTER

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And your wonderful support. APPLAUSE

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And, on the same day we are going to be electing Andy Burnham in

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Manchester and Sian Simon in Birmingham.

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Big Labour victories on the same day. Are we agreed on that?

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CHEERING But...

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LAUGHTER There is always a but, isn't the? We

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could also face a General Election next year. Whatever the Prime

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Minister says about snap elections there is every chance Theresa May

:37:12.:37:14.

will cut and run for an early election. So today we put ourselves

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on notice. Labour is preparing for a General Election in 2017.

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And we hope and expect all our members to support our campaign. We

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will be ready for the challenge whenever it comes.

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APPLAUSE Let's do it and be ready for that

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challenge. Let's do it in the spirit of the great Scots born Liverpool

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football manager Bill Shankly. APPLAUSE

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Sorry, Andy, I know Andy is an Everton supporter. Don't go! Stay!

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You're going to like it, Andy, don't worry.

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The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal

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and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football

:38:23.:38:24.

and that's how I see life. We are not all Bill Shanklys, each

:38:25.:38:43.

of us comes to our socialism from our own experiences. Mine was shaped

:38:44.:38:52.

by my mum and dad, a teacher and an engineer. Both very committed

:38:53.:38:57.

socialists and peace campaigners. My mum's inspiration was to encourage

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girls to believe they could achieve anything in their lives.

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APPLAUSE And I've met some of the people she

:39:05.:39:10.

taught. She inspired so many girls to take up science and engineering

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because of her example. And in my experience working as a volunteer

:39:16.:39:19.

teacher in Jamaica when I was a young man taught me so much about

:39:20.:39:23.

the strength of communities living in adversity and showing the most

:39:24.:39:28.

amazing solidarity to each other in poverty and in remote communities,

:39:29.:39:32.

and determined to achieve something collectively good for their entire

:39:33.:39:34.

community. And later I spent years as a union

:39:35.:39:51.

organiser in the National union of Public employees, representing low

:39:52.:39:53.

paid workers, fighting for the national minimum wage, fighting for

:39:54.:39:56.

decent wages and conditions, unions make us strong but also it's the

:39:57.:40:01.

determination of people to be strong for themselves, and above all strong

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for each other that shakes my politics, shakes my ideas and shapes

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my values. -- shapes my ideas. As the great American poet Langston

:40:19.:40:24.

Hughes put it, I see that my own hands can make the world that's in

:40:25.:40:27.

my mind. Everyone here and every one of our

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hundreds and thousands of members has some thing to contribute to our

:40:42.:40:47.

cause. That's why we will unite, build on our policies, take our

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vision out to a country crying out for change. We are 500,000 of us and

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there will be many more, working together to make our country the

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place it could be. Conference, united we can shape the future and

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build a fairer Britain in a peaceful world. Thank you.

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STUDIO: And Jeremy Corbyn getting applauded as they all rise to their

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feet, as it comes to an end, he didn't speak for 40 minutes as we

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were told, or 40 minutes as we were then told, he spoke for an hour and

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he is getting a standing ovation as he waves back to the crowd promising

:41:49.:41:55.

what he called a socialism for the 21st-century. He began by saying the

:41:56.:41:58.

new Shadow Cabinet members that come in when so many of the older ones

:41:59.:42:02.

have resigned, they are the future, he said. He wanted progressive

:42:03.:42:05.

change from the bottom-up. He said the Tories were merely the party of

:42:06.:42:08.

the privileged few. He saw his leadership of the Labour

:42:09.:42:14.

Party and those like-minded around him as part of the trend of the

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radical left in Europe like Syriza in Greece and put a must in Spain.

:42:21.:42:28.

On policy details which were high in aspiration if low on detail. He

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wanted 500,000 more council houses. The renationalising of the railways.

:42:35.:42:39.

He said his ten point programme that he had for the party leadership

:42:40.:42:42.

battle on would become the basis of party policy for the next election.

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And that included the repeal of the Trade Union Act, which of course was

:42:49.:42:51.

the Conservative reform which the last Labour government made very few

:42:52.:42:57.

changes to. He offered a new deal for business that would be

:42:58.:43:01.

multi-billion pound public investment in infrastructure, but he

:43:02.:43:04.

was going to raise their corporation tax, the tax on their profits, to

:43:05.:43:08.

pay for various educational measures. He promised that

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educational and national education as well. He concentrated on

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migration, tackling the consequences of immigration and extra support for

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areas of high immigration. There was nothing, as had been briefed before,

:43:24.:43:27.

about numbers and what controls there would be in place. He did say

:43:28.:43:32.

there was an electoral mountain to climb but if they could capture the

:43:33.:43:36.

support of middle and lower income voters then they would climb that

:43:37.:43:44.

mountain. Norman Smith, the BBC's political editor, is with me.

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Norman, what did you make of that Kozak if I'm glad I thought it was a

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missed opportunity in a funny way because at the end of the speeches.

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We're just hearing the red flag in the background, they are singing it,

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just so our viewers understand. As a journalist you want to have a

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story to tell. I'm struggling to say what it was Mr Corbyn wanted to say.

:44:09.:44:14.

There was a message to the broader country. If there was a top line

:44:15.:44:23.

from it there was the appeal to unity, the biggest cheer he got was

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the line appealing for an end to trench warfare, divided parties

:44:28.:44:31.

don't win elections. But a lot of it felt to me a bit of a comfort

:44:32.:44:35.

blanket for his party, going through policies that yes, his party

:44:36.:44:39.

absolutely loves, getting rid of zero-hours contracts, nationalising

:44:40.:44:42.

railways, in national investment bank. All of that sort of stuff goes

:44:43.:44:46.

down very well with his party. But if unity was to be a central message

:44:47.:44:58.

I think he needed to do more. I think there was a slight element at

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the beginning of his speech, and you picked it out when he lauded those

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who had gone into the Shadow Cabinet, and he said very

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deliberately, they are the future. In other words, all of you big

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Labour beasts from the past who have been given so much grief, forget it,

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you are not the future. That's not a message to bring people together. So

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it will go down terrifically well. Performance wise, actually, he has

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improved because sometimes he can be a bit of a mumble, a bit in

:45:19.:45:23.

different. He looked more confident. It was a much improved performance

:45:24.:45:34.

on last year, more confident, more vocal, more relaxed as lead and

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comfortable in his skin as leader. But if you are a voter sitting at

:45:37.:45:39.

home I don't think you take much from some of the very Corbyn -esque

:45:40.:45:43.

lines about stopping arms sales to Saudi Arabia, or peace in Colombia.

:45:44.:45:50.

I just don't think that really grabs people out there. I'm not sure what

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his offer was to the electorate. So, you know, it will make people feel

:45:56.:45:59.

good. Whether it actually gets any traction out with this conference

:46:00.:46:06.

chamber I'm not sure. As we move from country-macro to Jerusalem you

:46:07.:46:09.

might hear in the background, Rachel Shabi, what is your take? I agree it

:46:10.:46:19.

was a much more confident, capable performance we have seen a step

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change in the way Corbyn comes across. In terms of narrative arc

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there definitely was one. What Corbyn was doing over an hour, was

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it? It was an hour, maybe a few seconds short. It was very carefully

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and slowly, steadily building an ark whereby the Conservative government

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is old, it's out of touch, it's privileged, its elite, it doesn't

:46:48.:46:52.

have the capability to tackle the very urgent needs of the country. So

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he set up the Tory party as being out of date, out of touch,

:46:58.:47:01.

ill-equipped and constantly letting the country down. Meanwhile, all the

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while building up a narrative of the Labour Party as being modern,

:47:05.:47:10.

forward-looking, progressive, wants to invest, wants to innovate. He

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spoke about a patriotism that comes from a Britain that innovates, that

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builds things, that designs things, that makes thinks. He spoke about

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investing in that. He drew people together, I think, within a sort of

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shared narrative that is, we can find solutions, we are struggling at

:47:32.:47:34.

the moment but we can find solutions and we do it by investing and

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innovating and looking forward. These are all things the

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Conservative government cannot and does not know how to do.

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That maybe the game or the aim because Neil Kinnock tried to do

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that with the Tories in 1990 and when they changed leaders from

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Thatcher to Major, the public kind of thought, it is like a new

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Government and in some ways the polls suggest the public also think

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that with the demise of Mr Cameron and his set, this is a new

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Government too. Yes, I thought there was a narrative he could have

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grasped there, but I don't think he did and he kind of touched on it

:48:11.:48:15.

lightly which was this idea we are in a new era, a different politics,

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the old model is broken, which he genuinely believes and it was done

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in a paragraph and I think you could build a story around this. This is a

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new era, I represent a different way of doing things. I felt it got lost

:48:30.:48:35.

in what almost became a list of policy statements which we already

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knew. The new policy, I counted two, slash three, one was the idea of

:48:40.:48:43.

allowing councils to borrow to build council house, fine, very worthy,

:48:44.:48:47.

but probably technocratic and dull for most viewers. There was an

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announcement I think on a pupil premium, an arts pupil premium which

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again sounded sort of slightly under powered. It didn't seem to me there

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was an offer to the British people in policy and then if you are not

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going to do that, you have to impart a vision and I don't think he gave

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that vision. I think if he had managed to grip this idea we're in a

:49:08.:49:12.

different world, things are different and I represent that,

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there was a potential to develop that story, but I don't think he got

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there. Halfs in it for the disillusioned PLP? I think again, it

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was actually quite deliberate and quite clever of Corbyn, he didn't

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really attack, he didn't do any attacking. He didn't talk about

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unity much either. But he did try and unify the party along the lines

:49:38.:49:42.

of this common message, this common narrative, this new era, new

:49:43.:49:46.

solutions for a crisis. It is interesting that you mention

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housing. Housing is of course one of the biggest issues, most people will

:49:51.:49:53.

be feeling the effects of a housing crisis. Most people in the country

:49:54.:49:57.

were feeling that and for him to signal that is a really big deal,

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but he did signal other policies like investment in innovation, he

:50:02.:50:05.

talked about raising corporation tax specifically to pay for education.

:50:06.:50:12.

So he signalled the beginning of or the return of Education Maintenance

:50:13.:50:15.

Allowance which is a really big deal. We're going to move on. We

:50:16.:50:20.

have got to let Norman go, because he has 53 other outlets to service

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between now and later this evening. Norman, thank you for being with us.

:50:25.:50:30.

We want to find out, you heard how two of the journalists felt about

:50:31.:50:38.

the speech, how how did it go down with a few of the party members.

:50:39.:50:46.

Andrew Fleming is outside the conference hall. Hello, we're live

:50:47.:50:50.

on the BBC, what did you think of the speech? Absolutely brilliant.

:50:51.:50:53.

Inspiring. We're going to win the next election. Butterflies in the

:50:54.:50:58.

stomach? Absolutely, didn't it you? No comment scham What did you think

:50:59.:51:02.

of the speech? Very good speech. It was amazing. What do you think the

:51:03.:51:06.

theme was? Was there a message or a storyline that he was talking about?

:51:07.:51:10.

I think it was a fairer society. Somebody who works in the NHS, we

:51:11.:51:14.

see the inequality, we see the need for reinvestment and he says the

:51:15.:51:17.

right things and the people responded to that very positively.

:51:18.:51:21.

So keep the fingers crossed, yes. Thank you very much. Hello there,

:51:22.:51:26.

you're live on the BBC, what did you think of the speech? It was very

:51:27.:51:30.

good. It covered loads of things that everybody is really feeling

:51:31.:51:35.

passionate and I'm one of the many thousands that came back to the

:51:36.:51:41.

Labour Party. What did you think of the speech? He has given us a clear

:51:42.:51:49.

platform to go out and fight for this country. I I think Jeremy st

:51:50.:51:54.

going forward and we're addressing the concerns and the party and I

:51:55.:51:58.

think we can rebuild and build a Britain that we want to see. Who was

:51:59.:52:04.

inspired by the speech? No. Not at all. Very disappointed. What was the

:52:05.:52:10.

problem? There was a lot of talking about what is problematic and there

:52:11.:52:14.

was a lot of saying great, why we should change that and I'm waiting

:52:15.:52:18.

to hear how we're going to change that. We're going to change it. He

:52:19.:52:25.

talked about the changes in, to the companies that are going to make a

:52:26.:52:31.

contribution to improve education. He talked about we're going to be

:52:32.:52:35.

more welcoming of people coming into this country. He talked about

:52:36.:52:38.

building more houses. He talked about a bank that is going to invest

:52:39.:52:45.

in this country. He is talking all the practical things. We're going to

:52:46.:52:49.

get out there, I hope, you as well, and we're going to persuade people

:52:50.:52:52.

that what he said is absolutely right. It is about the needs of the

:52:53.:52:58.

many, not the few, it is not the Tories who are who are just

:52:59.:53:03.

interested in a few. We will let you carry on that discussion later on.

:53:04.:53:08.

Who thought Jeremy Corbyn's speaking style has improved?

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Do you think Jeremy Corbyn's speaking style has improved? Yes,

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very good. That's all from the delegates here

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on the conference floor where you can buy a copy of Jeremy Corbyn's

:53:20.:53:26.

speech if you really want a keepsake. Back to you.

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STUDIO: That was our Adam there, not quite in the spirit of unity. They

:53:32.:53:38.

are only walking out and after 30 seconds they are arguing amongst

:53:39.:53:42.

themselves, but it was interesting. Rachel, housing, you mentioned

:53:43.:53:46.

rightly, it is one of, I think, the undercovered, but huge policy issues

:53:47.:53:51.

that faces, but I have covered manifestos going on from the Labour

:53:52.:53:57.

one in 1997 through to the Tory one in 2010 and the Tory one again in

:53:58.:54:02.

2015 all promising much more housing and it hardly ever happens. They

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seem to run up against planning constraints, local council

:54:07.:54:09.

constraints and so on, I'm not quite sure if anybody yet knows how to

:54:10.:54:14.

break the log jam on this? I moon, I do think that this is something that

:54:15.:54:17.

Jeremy Corbyn really believes in. I remember interviewing him a few

:54:18.:54:21.

months ago and asked him what the most important thing in terms of

:54:22.:54:24.

domestic policy was and howst housing was number one. And rightly

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because it does affect, we all know how big an impact it has had on our

:54:32.:54:35.

society. How short we are of housing? How short we are of housing

:54:36.:54:40.

stock. I think there is a reason why this has become at the fore front of

:54:41.:54:44.

Labour Party policy. I guess the issue is how do you deliver? You

:54:45.:54:49.

build. That's true, but he has got two problems, one is getting

:54:50.:54:53.

planning per Marks because councils are reluctant to release land, is he

:54:54.:54:57.

going to overrule them from Whitehall which would fly in the

:54:58.:55:00.

face of a lot of the rhetoric we heard this week and secondly, the

:55:01.:55:03.

biggest demand for houses tends to be in areas where there are Tory

:55:04.:55:07.

councils and that's another thing he has got toe overcome? Yeah, but I

:55:08.:55:11.

think the most important thing to overcome is the lack of willing to

:55:12.:55:15.

do it and that's what the Tory Government and the coalition

:55:16.:55:18.

Government before it demonstrated. There was no interest in

:55:19.:55:22.

replenishing the social housing stock and there was no interest in

:55:23.:55:27.

providing more housing. There was a complete lack of capacity to

:55:28.:55:31.

understand how much of a problem it was causing for people both renting

:55:32.:55:35.

and not able to buy. So I think actually the biggest obstacle is the

:55:36.:55:40.

desire to do so. Would you agree with him, would you

:55:41.:55:43.

place what he has done to the Labour Party and the forces he represents

:55:44.:55:52.

in the Labour Party there with the party in Spain and Greece which has

:55:53.:55:56.

challenged the traditional Socialist Party? Was I right in thinking he

:55:57.:56:02.

was saying we've channelled their radicalism and reinvented the Labour

:56:03.:56:05.

Party rather than done it from outside? Yes, he did talk about

:56:06.:56:09.

that. He spoke about a sort of 21st century socialism. So he made it

:56:10.:56:14.

very clear that this isn't an old-style, this isn't going

:56:15.:56:18.

backwards, this is very much a modern socialism for a modern

:56:19.:56:22.

society facing modern crisis and those parties that you spoke about,

:56:23.:56:28.

across Europe, came about because of the same sort of economic and social

:56:29.:56:32.

crisises that we're seeing across Europe. In the UK that has happened

:56:33.:56:41.

within an existing party. Primarily, I think, because the party system

:56:42.:56:45.

cannot accommodate any other manifestation. We have only got a

:56:46.:56:49.

couple of minutes to go. Len McCluskey joined us. Good to see

:56:50.:56:53.

you. Which speech did you prefer, Tom Watson's or Jeremy Corbyn's?

:56:54.:56:58.

Jeremy Corbyn's. Tom's speech was about yesteryear's politics. I think

:56:59.:57:01.

what we have seen today was a leader. Somebody who spelt out a

:57:02.:57:05.

vision and a vision that is desperately needed in our country

:57:06.:57:09.

and that call for unity and what Labour can achieve when we are

:57:10.:57:13.

together I think was very powerful and very inspiring. Where did your

:57:14.:57:19.

attack on Tom Watson's speech fit into the call for unity What attack.

:57:20.:57:27.

A critique, an opinion which I said that I thought Tom was going back to

:57:28.:57:32.

the third way of playerism. That was for a different era and I said that

:57:33.:57:37.

really is not a vision anymore. So, of course, it is about Jeremy asked

:57:38.:57:43.

us to wipe the slate clean and perhaps unite, perhaps I need to be

:57:44.:57:46.

careful about my rhetoric as well, Andrew. Well, don't we all at times?

:57:47.:57:51.

Do you think the Parliamentary Labour Party needs to change to

:57:52.:57:55.

reflect more the kind of Labour Party that Mr Corbyn was outlining

:57:56.:58:02.

in his speech today? I think that's a great question and when you are a

:58:03.:58:05.

representative of a party, you have to understand if the party is

:58:06.:58:10.

changing and I'm sure that the vast majority of the PLP will recognise

:58:11.:58:14.

that the party as changed and there is a vision and a commitment there

:58:15.:58:18.

and I think they'll come back to support the leader and effectively

:58:19.:58:21.

support the membership that put them there. We almost have to go, but

:58:22.:58:26.

you're up for re-election soonment are you running again Oh, a long

:58:27.:58:30.

time yet. A long time. Are you going to run again? I will let you know

:58:31.:58:35.

when I decide. Go on, we need a story. My executive and members will

:58:36.:58:39.

know first. Should he run again? I think that's between him and his

:58:40.:58:45.

conscience. It is between him and his members! His members as well.

:58:46.:58:50.

Len McCluskey, I'm sorry it was so rushed. He should have cut down his

:58:51.:58:54.

speech and we would have had more time to talk! Come back and see us.

:58:55.:58:59.

It is always a pleasure. That's from the Labour Party conference in

:59:00.:59:04.

Liverpool. It finished with Mr Corbyn's speech calling for a

:59:05.:59:08.

socialism suited to the 21st century. Jo will be back with more

:59:09.:59:12.

Daily Politics at midday on BBC Two and I'll be back on BBC One tomorrow

:59:13.:59:17.

night after Question Time when I have no idea who our guests will be!

:59:18.:59:28.

But maybe Mr Portillo will have got off his train if not his trolley.

:59:29.:59:29.

Bye-bye. There were two areas of fingerprints

:59:30.:59:45.

on the carrier bag.

:59:46.:59:47.

Andrew Neil presents live coverage of Jeremy Corbyn's keynote speech on the final day of the Labour Party Conference in Liverpool. He also speaks to shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry.


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