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In September, scandal-hit Labour MP Keith Vaz judged himself "not fit"

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But now he's been appointed to another Commons

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How will Ireland - on both sides of the border -

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The Irish government is hosting all-Ireland talks today

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Theresa May and Jeremy Corbyn will be facing each other over

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the despatch box at Prime Minister's Questions.

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We'll bring you all the action live at midday.

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Should the England, Scotland and Wales football teams defy Fifa

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and wear poppies during next week's World Cup qualifiers?

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All that in the next hour and a half of the very finest public

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And with us for the whole of the programme today are two

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politicians who as far as we know have never wrestled

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The Northern Ireland Secretary, James Brokenshire, and the Shadow

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First today though, let's talk about Keith Vaz.

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The Labour MP has seen off an attempt by Tory MPs

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to prevent him getting a seat on a Commons committee.

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Conservative Andrew Bridgen tried to block his appointment

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to the Justice Committee following newspaper claims that

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Mr Vaz paid for the services of two male sex workers.

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But his attempt was rejected in a Commons vote by 203 to 7.

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Mr Vaz quit as chairman of the influential Home Affairs

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Andrew Bridgen joins us now from Central Lobby.

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Why did you tried to block Keith Vaz's appointment to do justice

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select committee? Lacen 's month he resigned from the home affairs

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select committee. He didn't think he was a fit and proper person to

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remain on back committee. There are issues around this investigation and

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those matters are not resolved. Yet this month, Keith Vaz wings he a

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person who is fit and proper to be on the justice select committee.

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This actually brings the whole of our into disrepute. The Metropolitan

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Police are still assessing if any criminal offences were committed by

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Keith Vaz, so there isn't an investigation as such, going on. Why

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is this the appropriate forum for you to raise these matters? It is

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not the arena for bringing up grievances you may have? The

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procedure was, although it is a Labour nomination for the committee,

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it has to be approved by the whole house, it is a committee of the

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whole house. I had the opportunity to raise my concerns and I am

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disappointed with the results. But it has my concerns and the concerns

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of many members on the record and if it hadn't been for government

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whipping, it would have been a better result. Many felt it was

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anti-Parliamentary that you are trying to subvert parliamentary

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traditions instead of airing your concerns in an appropriate manner.

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Not at all, these parliamentary traditions, the voting on the

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chairman of a select committee, this has only been a convention for the

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last few years. At the end of the day we are talking about the

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reputation of Parliament. I think people in the country will be

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bemused that anyone would the dark cloud hanging over them, that Keith

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Vaz has, but possibly, with a police investigation possibly pending, a

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full Parliamentary standards investigation going to be carried

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out if the police don't investigate criminally, but someone could be

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nominated and get onto the justice committee at this time. But you

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wouldn't have a problem if Labour MPs tried to block nominations to

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select committee, even if there was a dark cloud, although no

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allegations have been proven at this point? If someone has genuine

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concerns about the suitability of someone to be in a position of much

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influence, of great influence in this Parliament, it is quite right,

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it is the duty of other members to raise these concerns. That was the

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format I had to do it. Raising concerns is one thing, but you

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wouldn't have a problem with Labour MPs blocking conservative MPs

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applying for the same appointments? As long as they were legitimate

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concerns. The ones who voted him on soon the select committee where your

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fellow Conservative MPs. They could be a victim of fortune of Keith

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Vaz's future activities. I worry whether colleagues may live to

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regret that. Andrew Bridgen, thank you.

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Why did you vote for Keith Vaz to be on the justice committee of all

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committees? It comes down to the principle on the independence of

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select committees and individual parties selecting who they should

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have. The Labour Party put forward Kate Green and Keith Vaz to serve on

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the justice committee. In the sense of the proprieties of Parliament of

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the robustness of select committees, it is the Labour Party to do that.

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There is the sense of resident, if other parties then somehow are able

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to undo that, then it can cut across the whole scrutiny process. That is

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the Parliamentary situation. Please explain to our viewers why it was

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writer of Keith Vaz to resign from the home affairs select committee,

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but now be appointed to the justice select committee? Ultimately, it is

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a decision for the Labour Party. Did you vote with a heavy heart for Mr

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Vaz? I voted in support of the process we have on individual

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parties being able to nominate to serve on select committees. It is a

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matter who the other side nominates, you would sheep like go through the

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lobby in favour? It is rather, we do have a principle of select

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committees being robust, being able to hold people like myself to

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account and Keith Vaz did that on a number of occasions in some of my

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previous roles. If we believe in the ability for parties to nominate, to

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nominate their own people and each party has its own process to do so.

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Why did Labour nominate him? We had two vacancies on the committee and

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two MPs put themselves forward. There was no election and they went

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on to the committee. Couldn't you have chosen somebody else? Why is it

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appropriate for Keith Vaz to be on the justice committee, of all

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committees, when it was inappropriate for him to stay on the

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home affairs committee? It is a decision for Keith. He was chair of

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the home affairs select committee and he stood down as chair. It is a

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nicety, but he is a member of the justice select committee, he is not

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sharing it. It is a decision for Keith to make himself as to whether

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he thought he should be. It is like Pontius Pilate act from both of you,

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washing your hands, down to Keith Vaz, it is just process. People

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watching will wonder how a man, with a chequered history on many matters,

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under a possible police investigation and standards

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investigation is sitting on the justice committee! I have some

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sympathy with that view. Had I been Keith, I don't think I would have

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put myself forward for that position. But the fact is, you can't

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pick and choose. He is an elected MP, there to represent his

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constituents and needs to play a role in Parliament. Unless there are

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findings against him which means he shouldn't be in this position, we

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should let him make the decision. Did you vote for him? I didn't take

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part in the vote, I was trying to stop a constituent being deported.

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Most of the people who voted for Keith Vaz were Tories. Only 38

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Labour MPs voted for Keith Vaz. Why? You have to ask them. They couldn't

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all have been looking after their constituents at the same time. They

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could have been. I can only give you my view cannot speak for my

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colleagues. As a minister has said, the system operates, the opposition

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party gets to nominate who will sit on these select committees, which

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are meant to be operated in a way, independent from government and

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opposition. They meant to be inquisitorial and so on. Yet only 38

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Labour MPs could vote for Keith Vaz. It tells us something. I am not sure

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what, but it says something? You can impute into what that may mean. I

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haven't spoken to the 38 people who did support it and you would have to

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ask them why they did and others why they didn't. How come he got in with

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the Tory vote. They all turned up, including 11 ministers. Most of the

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203 who voted were Tories and Labour couldn't be bothered. Ultimately,

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there was a division that was called. I voted as others did, in

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support of the independence of committees, the independence of

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individual parties being able to do that. Seven voted against. It was a

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cross-section from across Parliament who voted in support of that

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principle. We will leave that there, I think we have got as far as we can

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combat for the moment. Brexit is one of the biggest

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challenges facing the Irish government with implications

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for Ireland north and south. Today, the Irish government

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is hosting cross-border talks with politicians, business

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representatives and interest groups. The issue of the Irish border

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will top the agenda, along with discussions about trade

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and the peace process. The border is the only land

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boundary between the UK In 1922, the Irish Free State

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was established, and with it, a Common Travel Area

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between the UK and Ireland. This meant nationals of both

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countries could travel freely In 1973, both the UK and Ireland

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became members of the EU. Since both countries

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joined on the same day, the border has never been one

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between a member and a non-member. Now June's Brexit vote

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has put the future of Both the UK and Irish governments

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say they want to keep But after Brexit the border

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between north and south will become The EU's Brexit Taskforce said

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the whole EU might need to sign off on how the UK and Ireland plan

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to police it. A harder border is likely to cause

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significant disruption and could recall the difficult

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decades of the Troubles. An alternative could be

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a border between Ireland and mainland Britain -

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but that would mean checks on people travelling between different parts

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of the UK. And I'm joined now from Dublin

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by Ireland correspondent Chris Page. Welcome to the daily politics. What

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has been happening at the conference? The Irish government

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regard this as a very important day. At this hospital, grand setting for

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what they are calling an all island 's civil dialogue. Note that the EU

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state will be affected more by Brexit than the Republic of Ireland.

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End Kenny has said it is the biggest social and economic challenge facing

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island in the last 50 years. The government says they have the widest

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conversation about Brexit with North and South. 300 people are attending

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this conference, trade unionists, business representatives and other

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groups and they are focusing on cross-border trade, ?1 billion worth

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of goods cross the Irish Sea every week. Also, the peace process and

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the implications for the border are very high on the government's list

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of priorities. Notable absentees are the Unionist parties from Northern

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Ireland. They decided not to come to this event. That undermines the idea

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of it being the broadest conversation with as many parties,

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or interested parties as possible. The DUP leader, Arlene Foster has

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discussed it as a grandstanding exercise, making her case very

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clear. But what has been the reaction to that? People have said

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they are disappointed unionists have not come. Whenever the Democratic

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Unionist party had their conference, Arlene Foster hardened her rhetoric

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on this and said it was an exercise in grandstanding. The Unionists have

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said they have enough ways to engage with Dublin and people here,

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including ministers in the Irish government are putting the emphasis

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on another meeting taking place later this month, the meeting of the

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North, South ministerial. That would allow ministers from storm onto sand

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Dublin to confer regularly on matters which are important to them.

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There will be one of those Summit in Northern Ireland later this month

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and it will very much focus on Brexit. That is being pointed to by

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many here as being the next key meeting in this process. Everyone is

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trying to put a very positive accents of what is happening, saying

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it will be an important and useful exercise in forming the Irish

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government's progression in the Brexit talks.

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You are the Secretary of State 's four Northern Ireland. Why are you

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not at these talks? It is about forming preparations for discussions

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around Brexit. We do meet bilaterally with the Irish

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government on a regular basis. There are other things which are put into

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place. We have the British- Irish Council which brings together

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ourselves with the Irish government, with the Executive and other

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devolved Administration 's. The Irish government have called this a

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meeting of all Ireland. They say there is real concern in Dublin

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about the implications of Brexit for the whole island and the

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relationship of Ireland, the South with the Norse and with the UK. --

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north. Reassurances have been given in a number of ways. I have had

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meetings with the Irish Foreign Minister and we have had some good

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and positive exchanges. It is unique relationship we have. The Irish

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government has arranged today's event to form their approach to this

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full stop that does not mean there are not other discussions that will

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take place. The Northern Irish Council are very keen. There are

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always discussions. The Irish government regards this as

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important. Charles Flanagan joins us now from

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the talks in Dublin. Thank you for joining us. There are a number of

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concerns. We have four minutes. Perhaps we could go through some of

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the most important concerns you have about Britain's departure from the

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EU. What is your worry with the border? This is a very important

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engagement when we have an opportunity of listening, not only

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to political leaders, but also to business leaders and

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representatives, civic society. There are 6 million people on the

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island of Ireland, 4.5 million in southern Ireland. The issue of the

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future relationship between the UK and the European Union is of course

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of vital importance to us strategically in terms of our

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economy. We do not have much time. Forgive me. What I am trying to get

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at, since we have the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland here,

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what are your concerns? What is your main concern about what happens to

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the border? The main concern is that our priorities will not be taken

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into consideration. Our priorities are clear. The preservation of the

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Common travel arrangement which has been in place since 1926. Secondly,

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that the letter and spirit of the Good Friday Agreement remains intact

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and fully honoured. That is where the issue of the border is one of

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immense importance. Having regard to the fact we now have an invisible

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border between North and South where in excess of 30,000 people across

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the border every day to work, to school, to college, to farm. Any

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attempt to reintroduce what might be described as a heavily fortified

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border or a hard border is certainly going to meditate against what has

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been a hugely positive and constructive relationship North and

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South since the signing of the Good Friday Agreement in 1998. Hitting

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aside a military 's border, which may or may not happen, if the United

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Kingdom leaves and we are no longer in the single market and we are no

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longer in the customs union, does it follow in your view that there would

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have to be customs on the border between North and South? What

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follows if that is the case, and it is not clear that with either case,

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but what would follow would be a very serious situation which would

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require a special arrangement on the matter of the island of Ireland. We

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don't really know at this stage what the ask of the UK Government will

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be. Our priorities are clear. We are listening to colleagues on the

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island of Ireland today. We welcome those who have joined us from

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Northern Ireland. We want to know what the priorities of the British

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government will be and of course the priorities of the Northern

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Executive. We welcome the fact that Theresa May has indicated that

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Article 15 Otis will be served at the latest at the end of next March.

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-- the Article 50 notice. What will follow a BAC arrears round of

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negotiations. In order to prepare fully, I would be obliged to hear

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from my colleagues across the water as to what exactly the ask would be.

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We are preparing this morning and over the next few months a range of

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contingencies from the softest of soft Brexit to the hardest. This is

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really going to be impacting not only on our economy but also on

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society. Thank you for joining us this morning from the all Ireland

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talks taking place. James, let me come to you. The Common travel area

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which since the 1920s, has allowed British citizens to go to Ireland

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and Irish citizens to come here into work, travel, holiday in an

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untroubled way, are you in a position to guarantee that

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continuation after Brexit? We have the negotiations still to come. We

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know that is the case. What I can say clearly and, as Charlie has

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indicated, there is a strong will between the Irish government and

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ourselves to see the Common travel area will be respected. Its

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existence has been recognised in treaties. There needs to be a clear

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understanding among EU states of the significance of the Common travel

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area and the significance of border issues in connection with the

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politics of Northern Ireland and the issues. If Dublin wants it and you

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would want it to continue, what would stop it? Ultimately, because

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it is part of the overall negotiation. It existed before we

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joined the EU. You are right in making that clear point. It did

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exist before we joined be you and therefore that shares will that the

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Irish government and ourselves would have going into that negotiation,

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recognising that Ireland would remain in the European Union but it

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will not be part of the Schengen zone. The Irish government has no

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intent... They did not join partly because of the common travel area in

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the first place. They are not wanting to do that. As of this

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morning right you cannot guarantee the continuation of the common

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travel arrangement between Britain and Ireland. It is part of the

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negotiations, you tell us? It is part of what we need to secure from

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the outcome of the negotiations. That is the key thing. It is an

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essential point. Let me ask you something out. If we are outside the

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single market and the customs union, and there may be tariffs on some

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things between us and be you, you would have to put customs posts up

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on the border, wouldn't you? It is important that I do not hypothesise.

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We, as the Government, are in the process of analysing all of these

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issues. Analysing and considering whether we should remain in the

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customs union or not. So, there could be customs posts. What I do

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need to be clear on this is that we are looking at the evidence, looking

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at ways in which you can approach this. There are no binary issues.

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The Prime Minister has said it this in relation to the customs union. It

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is how we are working with the Irish government on how we can achieve

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that outcome, which is not seeing a return to the borders of the past. A

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brief thought from you on this. There is a lot of uncertainty in

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Northern Ireland and the Republic about what Brexit means. I am not

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sure people will be reassured in any way by what they have just heard. We

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haven't heard anything. We do not know what the plan is. Not in

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Northern Ireland and Ireland and we do not know what the plan is for the

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UK. OK. Let's move on. Now, a certain Canadian banker

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is reported to have been a bit upset by Theresa May's criticism

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in her conference speech of the "international elites" -

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a group she said she was According to The Times newspaper,

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the Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, took these

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comments rather personally. In fact, the paper suggests it may

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even have had something to do with his decision to quit his post

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two years early, in 2019, and return A bit of an over-reaction you might

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think, or as one member of the Cameron Government apparently

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put it "for a supposed Master of the Universe,

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he has a very thin skin". Well, nobody could accuse us

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here at the Daily Politics of being either part

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of an international elite or thin skinned but we do control something

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even the Masters of the Universe can't influence - the supply

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of Daily Politics mugs. Diminishing though, the supply. It

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is. That is because the pound is slumped.

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To be in with a chance of getting your hands on a member

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of the crockery elite, just tell us when this happened.

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MUSIC: "There Must Be An Angel" by Eurythmics

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I went into this agreement because I was not prepared

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to tolerate a situation of continuing violence.

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# Boy, you've got to prove your love to me

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Handsworth riots is already expected to run into several million pounds.

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When the cameras first went in this afternoon,

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the place was absolutely jam-packed with peers.

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To be in with a chance of winning a Daily Politics mug,

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send your answer to our special quiz e-mail address - that's

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And no, I don't know why they have to be in by 12:30 p.m..

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And that can mean only one thing, yes, Prime Minister's

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What is likely to come up today? As we see that crisp and beautiful

:27:52.:28:08.

autumn morning, it is not long before the Autumn Statement. We are

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starting to see noises off we traditionally see at this time of

:28:13.:28:17.

year. Ministers behind-the-scenes trying to persuade Philip Hammond to

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crank open his cheque book. Briefings about the kind of Autumn

:28:22.:28:25.

Statement we might expect. Have a brand-new Chancellor, are very

:28:26.:28:30.

different character to the previous one. A lot of expectation that the

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Autumn Statement will be more muted, not so politically grand as an

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event. Mr Brown and Mr Osborne used that. Mr Brown was always making an

:28:42.:28:47.

announcement about schools in his budget. That backfired. The forced

:28:48.:28:53.

academies age and was chucked over the side last week. There are a list

:28:54.:29:00.

of things George Osborne propose which have hit the dustcart. If he

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is watching whenever the year is quite sure what he is doing with all

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of his time that he might want to suggest things he dreamt up that

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have disappeared. In a sense, the Autumn Statement and the budget used

:29:12.:29:15.

to be a proxy for demonstrations that the Chancellor has had huge

:29:16.:29:19.

influence over domestic policy, a massive influence over domestic

:29:20.:29:23.

policy. That is not the case. But it Hammond is a different kind of

:29:24.:29:31.

Chancellor. He has already indicated the big headline will be using

:29:32.:29:34.

different kinds of targets to bring down the deficit in a more for

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giving way, if you like, to create giant airbags. Depending on economic

:29:38.:29:42.

circumstances. Precisely. He outlined some of his thoughts to the

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Cabinet. It is almost likely have Cabinet government. It is almost

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like we have political ministers sitting here. What about the word

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resit? He did use that word. It will be much more downbeat, if you like.

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Much more mooted. There is no question this is the first big shop

:30:09.:30:15.

window for him as Chancellor. The Government is very well aware of the

:30:16.:30:21.

economic dangers and how to pace ourselves from the European Union

:30:22.:30:24.

for the bid is also clear he has made a break with what went before.

:30:25.:30:28.

Probably George Osborne would have done the same thing, ditch his own

:30:29.:30:31.

fiscal rules because of uncertainty around the economy. He was going to

:30:32.:30:39.

give us a punishment budget, raise taxes and cut spending. The macro

:30:40.:30:43.

economic justification for which has always eluded me if you're going

:30:44.:30:49.

into recession. Hard to believe a Chancellor would do such a thing

:30:50.:30:51.

rather than looking at the numbers, as they are. The key thing for the

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Autumn Statement, Mr Hammond would have the latest OBR forecast for

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2017. My understanding is privately Mr Hammond is Leumi about 2017. Even

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on the record, he has said we are looking at a roller-coaster. --

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Leumi. The Chancellor has basically put up a big red warning light

:31:16.:31:21.

saying things might get grim and tough. The difference for him in

:31:22.:31:26.

terms of judgments he has two made is we will have new forecasts but

:31:27.:31:29.

very limited amounts of real reaction, if you like, real data. He

:31:30.:31:36.

will try to make judgments about several years ahead based on only

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three months since the world was turned upside down by the referendum

:31:41.:31:45.

result. Westminster is moving to that focus now and Labour MPs, of

:31:46.:31:49.

course no different MPs on the back bench, are starting to campaign on

:31:50.:31:53.

things they would like to see for that we have seen MPs talking about

:31:54.:31:58.

universal credit cuts. Some Tory MPs have considered joining forces with

:31:59.:32:00.

SNP members on that. Foreign steel is being used in our

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key defence projects. We know the Prime Minister likes to channel the

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iron Lady, but when will she show some metal in standing up for some

:32:24.:32:31.

British made steel? This government has stood up for British made steel

:32:32.:32:36.

and we have made a number of measures for the steel industry. But

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the honourable gentleman says there is no clarity in relation to Brexit.

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I am clear that what we want to achieve is the best possible deal

:32:44.:32:48.

for businesses in the United Kingdom to be able to trade and operate

:32:49.:32:53.

within the single European market. Prime Minister, I applaud the

:32:54.:32:59.

government's continued commitment to infrastructure development with 6000

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projects in the pipeline worth 480 billion. Can the government is

:33:05.:33:08.

quickly take forward the lower Thames crossing, and extra

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investment in roads that will help to build more homes, jobs and

:33:13.:33:15.

businesses in the Thames Gateway area? I am grateful to my honourable

:33:16.:33:21.

friend I'm grateful to him for recognising the contribution the

:33:22.:33:26.

government has made. The importance of that investment, we have

:33:27.:33:30.

consulted on proposals around the lower Thames crossing. There were

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more than 47,000 responses and those are being considered and the

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Secretary of State for Transport will make his response in due

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course. Jeremy Corbyn. Could I take this opportunity of welcoming Mesa

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Constance McGinn and hope the evidently effective crash course in

:33:57.:34:01.

midwifery undertaken by my honourable friend, the member for

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Saint Helens Norton isn't assigned to the government we believe in

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midwifery training. -- downgrading midwifery training. Mr Speaker, a

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few months ago on the steps of Downing Street, the Prime Minister

:34:22.:34:30.

promised to stand up for families who are just managing to get by.

:34:31.:34:37.

However, however, we now know these were just empty words as this

:34:38.:34:41.

government plans to cut work allowances for exactly those

:34:42.:34:46.

families who are just getting by. Isn't it the case her cuts to

:34:47.:34:49.

universal credit will leave millions worse off? First of all can I

:34:50.:34:56.

congratulate the right honourable gentleman on the birth of I

:34:57.:35:01.

understand, his granddaughter. No? Then, I completely missed the point.

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In that case... Wait for it. In that case, can I

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just say perhaps one should never trust a former Chief Whip!

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LAUGHTER. And on the point the right

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honourable gentleman has raised in relation to universal credit, the

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introduction of universal credit was an important reform brought about in

:36:06.:36:08.

the welfare system. It is more simple so people can see much more

:36:09.:36:14.

easily where they stand in relation to benefits. Crucially, the point

:36:15.:36:19.

about universal credit is making short work always pays. As people

:36:20.:36:24.

work more, they earn more. It is right we don't want to see people

:36:25.:36:30.

just written off to a life on benefits, but we are encouraging

:36:31.:36:35.

people to get into the workplace. It is unfair to blame a former Chief

:36:36.:36:40.

Whip for some confusion. Not a very gallant. Can we not just Admir the

:36:41.:36:46.

member for Saint Helen 's North for his work? Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, it

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is extremely rude to point! Mr Speaker, her predecessor abandoned

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these same cuts to working people through the tax credit system. Now

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she is enacting them through universal credit. The Centre for

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Social Justice says these cuts will leave 3 million families ?1000 a

:37:18.:37:25.

year worse off. Why is the Prime Minister slipping the same cuts in

:37:26.:37:31.

through the back door? I have to say to the right honourable gentleman,

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at least my Chief Whip has a job. On the serious point he raises about

:37:43.:37:46.

universal credit, I repeat what I have just said. It is important to

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look at why universal credit was introduced. Under the benefits

:37:52.:37:55.

system under the Labour government, what we saw was too many people

:37:56.:37:59.

finding they were better off on benefits than they were in work.

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What is important is the value work, we value getting people into work,

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where they are able to work. But we want a system that is fair and it is

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a system that is fair both to those who need the benefits, but also fair

:38:20.:38:22.

to those who pay for the benefits through their taxes. There are many

:38:23.:38:25.

families struggling to make ends meet who are paying for the benefits

:38:26.:38:31.

of others. I want a system that is fair to them as well. This week, Mr

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Speaker, Oxford University studies found that there is a direct link

:38:39.:38:42.

between rising benefit sanctions and rising demand for food banks. A

:38:43.:38:46.

million people accessed a foodbank last year to receive parcel. Only

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40,000 did so in 2010. I welcome the government's promised to review the

:38:56.:38:59.

workplace assessment for disabled people, but will she reassess the

:39:00.:39:07.

whole punitive sanctions regime? It is absolutely right that in our

:39:08.:39:11.

welfare system, we have a system that make sure those people who

:39:12.:39:15.

receive benefits, are those who it is right to receive benefits. That's

:39:16.:39:21.

why we have assessments in our welfare system. It is also important

:39:22.:39:26.

in our welfare system, we ensure those who are able to get into the

:39:27.:39:31.

workplace, are making every effort to get into the workplace. That's

:39:32.:39:37.

why we have sanctions. What the right honourable gentleman wants is

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no assessments, no sanctions and unlimited welfare. That's not fair

:39:42.:39:47.

to the people accessing the welfare system and it's not fair to the tax

:39:48.:39:52.

payers who are paying for it. According to Sheffield Hallam

:39:53.:39:56.

University study, one in five claimants who have been sanctioned

:39:57.:40:00.

became homeless as a result. Many of those included families with

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children. Could I recommend the Prime Minister supports British

:40:07.:40:08.

cinema and takes herself along to the cinema to see a film called I,

:40:09.:40:17.

Daniel Blaikie. And perhaps she could take the Work and Pensions

:40:18.:40:22.

Secretary with her because he described the film as unfair and

:40:23.:40:26.

then went on to admit he had never seen it. He has a very fair sense of

:40:27.:40:33.

judgment. But I will tell her what is unfair, Annex servicemen dying

:40:34.:40:38.

without food in his own due to the government's sanction regime. It is

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time we ended this institutionalised barbarity against often, very

:40:42.:40:51.

vulnerable people. I have to say to the right honourable gentleman, of

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course it is important that in our welfare system we ensure those who

:40:55.:40:58.

need the support the state is giving them to the benefit system are able

:40:59.:41:04.

to access the bat. But it is important in our system, those who

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are paying for it feels the system is fair to them as well. That is

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right, that is why we need to have work capability assessments, it is

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why we need to have sanctions in our system. The right honourable

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gentleman has a view there should be no sanctions and unlimited welfare.

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I have to say to him, the Labour Party is drifting away from the

:41:29.:41:34.

views of Labour voters. It is this party that understands working-class

:41:35.:41:39.

people. Mr Speaker, the housing benefit bill has gone up by more

:41:40.:41:43.

than ?4 billion because of high levels of friends and the necessity

:41:44.:41:48.

of supporting people in that. Is that a sensible use of public money?

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I think not. In response to the March budget, I asked the Chancellor

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to abandon... I asked the Chancellor, Mr Speaker, to abandon

:42:00.:42:06.

the ?30 cut for disabled people on Employment and Support Allowance,

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unable to work. But with support may be able to work in the future. They

:42:10.:42:14.

want to be able to get into work. What evidence does the Prime

:42:15.:42:18.

Minister have that imposing poverty on people with disabilities actually

:42:19.:42:23.

helps them into work? I am pleased to say, what we have seen under this

:42:24.:42:28.

government is nearly half a million disabled people now in the

:42:29.:42:34.

workplace. The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions has launched a

:42:35.:42:36.

Green paper on work which is looking at how we can continue to provide

:42:37.:42:41.

and increase support for those who regard the tables and want to get

:42:42.:42:44.

into the workplace. But he started by asking me about the increased in

:42:45.:42:50.

housing benefit. If he thinks the amount of money spent on housing

:42:51.:42:57.

benefit, is so important, why did he opposed the changes we proposed the

:42:58.:43:01.

housing benefit is to introduce the housing benefit bill? As the Prime

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Minister knows, my concern and those of my party is the incredible amount

:43:07.:43:10.

of money being paid into the private rented sector by excessive rent and

:43:11.:43:15.

that could be brought under control and handled much better. Mr Speaker,

:43:16.:43:21.

many people in this House will have been deeply moved by my honourable

:43:22.:43:27.

friend, the member of the Swansea East's article about the tragic

:43:28.:43:31.

death of her son and having to take out a bank loan for the cost of the

:43:32.:43:35.

funeral. The Sunday Mirror with the support of the Labour Party are

:43:36.:43:39.

calling for an end to cancel charges the parent is laying a child to

:43:40.:43:45.

rest. It would cost ?10 million a year, a small proportion of

:43:46.:43:47.

government expenditure to ensure every Council could ensure those

:43:48.:43:57.

laying a child to rest could not have a bill imposed on them by the

:43:58.:44:01.

local authority. I hope the Prime Minister can act on this? I

:44:02.:44:09.

recognise those issues, there are facilities available through the

:44:10.:44:15.

social fund social scheme the payments for people who meet those

:44:16.:44:19.

eligibility conditions. It is difficult for anybody when they have

:44:20.:44:22.

to go through the tragedy of losing a child and then facing the

:44:23.:44:27.

consequences of the sorts the right honourable gentleman makes. We are

:44:28.:44:31.

making sure, in relation to local authorities, they now have the extra

:44:32.:44:34.

revenue available to them to business rates under the local

:44:35.:44:40.

revenues. It is up to councils to consider what they wish to do in

:44:41.:44:44.

this. But I say there are facilities available through the social fund

:44:45.:44:47.

funeral expenses to deal with the issue he raises. David McIntosh.

:44:48.:44:55.

Northamptonshire has, for a long time, been affected by a growing

:44:56.:44:58.

population without the right level of funding for public services. Can

:44:59.:45:03.

my right honourable friend assure meet the current reviews into the

:45:04.:45:07.

funding formulas for school, policing and health will reflect the

:45:08.:45:11.

population growth in Northampton and the rest of the county so services

:45:12.:45:13.

get the funding they need? I can say we have protected the

:45:14.:45:23.

schools budget in relation to funding per pupil and we have

:45:24.:45:26.

protected the police budget. As we look at various ways we are funding

:45:27.:45:31.

public services in the constituency and County of Northampton, we will

:45:32.:45:36.

look at the very issue of what is right in terms of the need of the

:45:37.:45:41.

local area and the numbers. Angus Robertson. It is with sadness we

:45:42.:45:52.

learn of the death... No doubt the Prime Minister and right honourable

:45:53.:45:54.

colleagues will extend their condolences to the family, friends

:45:55.:46:00.

and colleagues of a serviceman who has died so tragically. The Prime

:46:01.:46:05.

Minister says she wants to tackle international and domestic tax

:46:06.:46:08.

avoidance and serious criminality. On these benches we support this. If

:46:09.:46:14.

she were told that specific UK financial vehicles are being used

:46:15.:46:18.

for tax avoidance and other serious commonality, what would you do about

:46:19.:46:27.

it? -- criminality. Can I first of all say, I'm sure the whole House

:46:28.:46:32.

would wish to pass on condolences of the friends and family of the

:46:33.:46:38.

service man who died. We have done a significant amount in terms of tax

:46:39.:46:43.

avoidance. What should anybody do if they have evidence of people

:46:44.:46:47.

avoiding tax? I suggest he speaks to HMRC. Scottish limited partnerships

:46:48.:46:54.

were established by this House in 1907 are now being aggressively

:46:55.:46:59.

marketed internationally, especially in Eastern Europe. The International

:47:00.:47:04.

Monetary Fund has warned on the risk imposed and the fight against global

:47:05.:47:07.

money laundering and against organised crime. It is a matter of

:47:08.:47:15.

public record that SLP 's affected as France for child abuse and have

:47:16.:47:24.

been part of corruption in Ukraine, Uzbekistan and Moldova and include

:47:25.:47:29.

the arms industry. Given the seriousness of this industry and the

:47:30.:47:33.

Prime Minister's and to deal with criminality but the lack of

:47:34.:47:36.

progress, will she agreed to meet with me to discuss a joint way

:47:37.:47:43.

forward? The right honourable gentleman raises issues around

:47:44.:47:46.

criminality and investigations into criminal activity that is taking

:47:47.:47:51.

place and he talks about the issue of websites peddling child abuse and

:47:52.:47:55.

child sexual exploitation. It is in order to increase our ability to

:47:56.:47:59.

deal with this criminal activity that we created the National Crime

:48:00.:48:03.

Agency, we have been ensuring we have been working on other issues

:48:04.:48:07.

with the city like money-laundering, and we are looking at the whole

:48:08.:48:13.

question of how we can ensure we are taking effective action on criminal

:48:14.:48:23.

activity. I am pleased to say, he keeps saying, well I meet with him?

:48:24.:48:26.

As he knows, I do meet with him on occasions. I am always happy to meet

:48:27.:48:29.

the right honourable gentleman. If he wants to talk to me about dealing

:48:30.:48:32.

with criminal activity, I will be a good tell him about the work that

:48:33.:48:36.

has been done under this government working with the city on

:48:37.:48:39.

money-laundering and enhancing our ability to deal with the sort of

:48:40.:48:44.

criminal activity he is talking about. Does the Prime Minister agree

:48:45.:48:47.

it is disappointed with it. Here from the Leader of the Opposition

:48:48.:48:53.

any welcome for the huge boost to manufacturing and employment that

:48:54.:49:00.

have come from the Nissan decision? Does she agree that demonstrates

:49:01.:49:02.

great confidence in the UK with benefits throughout the supply

:49:03.:49:11.

change, including companies like Automotive Installations, in my

:49:12.:49:15.

constituency. It is extremely disappointing that the leader of the

:49:16.:49:21.

position has not actually welcomed, unlike his colleague, the honourable

:49:22.:49:26.

member for Sunderland West and Washington, who has welcomed the

:49:27.:49:30.

fact that these jobs have been saved in her constituency and in the

:49:31.:49:34.

supply chain around the country. It is that supply chain which is every

:49:35.:49:42.

bit as important. I know that Automotive Installations are

:49:43.:49:47.

receiving money and I wish them all the best for the future. What

:49:48.:49:54.

assurances can the Prime Minister give to the agri- food sector right

:49:55.:49:59.

across the United Kingdom that it would be given the important status

:50:00.:50:02.

that is required when it comes to any Brexit negotiations? I can

:50:03.:50:10.

absolutely assure the honourable gentleman that we are determined,

:50:11.:50:14.

first of all, to get the best possible deal on exiting the

:50:15.:50:17.

European Union for the British people. We're looking at the various

:50:18.:50:22.

sectors. We are very conscious of the importance of food in the

:50:23.:50:26.

agricultural sector across the United Kingdom and particularly of

:50:27.:50:29.

the importance to that sector to Northern Ireland. We will be doing

:50:30.:50:33.

all we can to listen to the representations made by the Northern

:50:34.:50:37.

Ireland Executive and make sure we have the best deal possible for

:50:38.:50:43.

agri- food sector. Last week's announcement on accelerated access

:50:44.:50:46.

to medicines report will make a positive impact to the lives of

:50:47.:50:49.

children and adults with a rare genetic and un-diagnosed condition.

:50:50.:50:53.

Decades patients have struggled to get access to this medicine. The

:50:54.:50:57.

progress made but I honourable friend from Mid Norfolk will make

:50:58.:51:01.

massive progress on that. Will the Prime Minister confirmed that if the

:51:02.:51:05.

programme is successful to the first five to ten drugs in the first year

:51:06.:51:11.

it will be extended further drugs in the following years? You are right

:51:12.:51:14.

to welcome the accelerated access you and to pay tribute for our

:51:15.:51:21.

honourable member for Mid Norfolk who has placed life sciences in the

:51:22.:51:25.

UK on the agenda and ensure we are able to sue the UK developing at

:51:26.:51:29.

best possible place to develop new drugs. That is what we want to see.

:51:30.:51:34.

With regard to the recommendations from the review, the Department of

:51:35.:51:36.

Health will be responding to those shortly. I think this is an

:51:37.:51:41.

important element in terms of our ability to accelerate that access to

:51:42.:51:45.

drugs, which is to the benefit of patients. Recent weeks have seen

:51:46.:51:50.

three government ministers express three different views on what will

:51:51.:51:54.

happen while industry cries out for clarity. Not Brexit, surprisingly

:51:55.:51:59.

enough but the oil and gas industry. Can I asked the Prime Minister will

:52:00.:52:03.

she bring forward additional support for this industry in the Autumn

:52:04.:52:06.

Statement or is she happy to sit back and see more jobs lost? I say

:52:07.:52:12.

to the honourable gentleman, of course we understand the challenges

:52:13.:52:17.

the UK oil and gas industry are facing and we take those very

:52:18.:52:21.

seriously. I also say to him that is why we have established the oil and

:52:22.:52:25.

gas authority and why we have taken action. The 2.3 billion package of

:52:26.:52:30.

measures in the last two budgets to make sure the North Sea continues to

:52:31.:52:34.

attract investment and safeguard the future of this vital national asset.

:52:35.:52:39.

We have taken a range of measures. We understand the concerns about the

:52:40.:52:43.

oil and gas industry and assess what the Government has taken action. --

:52:44.:52:51.

and that is why. Watch as the airport and the Medway industrial

:52:52.:52:57.

estate are home to a number of science SMEs which are doing wonders

:52:58.:53:04.

to our economy. I would like to congratulate the decision to take a

:53:05.:53:08.

cohort of SMEs to help increase trading relationships with emerging

:53:09.:53:13.

economies. Can I ask if her dedication will continue in ensuring

:53:14.:53:17.

all parts of our economy are able to seize the opportunities that present

:53:18.:53:25.

themselves as we leave be you? You are right about the importance of

:53:26.:53:29.

small and medium-sized businesses and obviously as she has referenced

:53:30.:53:33.

in the technology industry. That is why I am pleased in my trip to India

:53:34.:53:39.

I will be taking leading small and medium-sized businesses in life

:53:40.:53:42.

sciences and technology sectors. It is important to get them to forge

:53:43.:53:49.

trading links with India. As we look at the races for leaving the

:53:50.:53:52.

European Union we will be taking the interests of all sectors into

:53:53.:54:00.

account. -- the arrangements. Tartar speciality is a big employer in my

:54:01.:54:05.

constituency. It's workforce is worried by the period of uncertainty

:54:06.:54:12.

and acted by Tata Steel. With the Prime Minister use her trade visit

:54:13.:54:17.

to India to secure the future production of steel in Britain and

:54:18.:54:23.

convey the importance of Tata Steel acting as a responsible owner and

:54:24.:54:31.

seller of its UK assets? I can assure the honourable lady we

:54:32.:54:33.

recognise the importance of steel and the importance of temper macro

:54:34.:54:41.

in the United Kingdom. That is why we have had discussions with Tata in

:54:42.:54:47.

the United Kingdom and we will continue to sow do. -- the

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importance of Tata. My constituency apparently contains more powers than

:54:56.:55:06.

any other. This means world class cheese. Can the Prime Minister

:55:07.:55:11.

ensure West Country farmers that in best deal for Britain the interests

:55:12.:55:16.

of the agricultural industry and farming community will be foremost

:55:17.:55:19.

in her mind question that will she popped down to Somerset soon for

:55:20.:55:23.

perhaps a chunk of cheddar and drop of cider? We are grateful to the

:55:24.:55:28.

honourable gentleman. The Prime Minister. His invitation for West

:55:29.:55:35.

Country cheese and cider is an invitation which is difficult to

:55:36.:55:39.

refuse. I look forward at some stage of coming down into Somerset and

:55:40.:55:43.

being able to sample those products. He is absolutely right about the

:55:44.:55:48.

importance of our agricultural sector to economies across the UK,

:55:49.:55:54.

but particular parts of the UK rely heavily on the agricultural sector.

:55:55.:55:59.

We will be taking their needs and considerations into account as we

:56:00.:56:02.

negotiate the best possible deal for this country leaving the EU. This

:56:03.:56:09.

morning, the High Court ruled that the Government has comprehensively

:56:10.:56:13.

failed to properly tackle air pollution. Which does the Prime

:56:14.:56:17.

Minister feel is worse? The Government losing in the High Court

:56:18.:56:21.

for a second time or the 40,000 early deaths that may result from

:56:22.:56:27.

air pollution every year in the UK? I have been asked about equity in

:56:28.:56:34.

this chamber previously at PMQs. -- air quality. We always recognise

:56:35.:56:38.

there is more for the Government to do. We have been doing a lot in this

:56:39.:56:43.

area. We have been putting extra money into actions that will relieve

:56:44.:56:48.

the issues around are quality. We recognise that Defra needs to look

:56:49.:56:51.

at the judgment made by the courts and we had to look again at the

:56:52.:56:56.

proposals we will bring forward. Nobly in this Has doubts the

:56:57.:57:00.

importance of the issue of air quality. There is more to do and we

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will do it. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Prime Minister will remember

:57:13.:57:15.

visiting the Witney constituency recently. Chipping Norton has been

:57:16.:57:20.

short listed for the great British high street awards. Does she join me

:57:21.:57:24.

in congratulating the small businesses on Chipping Norton and

:57:25.:57:27.

Tammy what support the Government offers to the small businesses in

:57:28.:57:34.

our market towns? -- and tell me. Can I take this opportunity, my

:57:35.:57:39.

first opportunity in this chamber, to welcome my honourable friend to

:57:40.:57:43.

this chamber and for his excellent result in the by-election? Can I

:57:44.:57:47.

just say, his question brings back many happy memories for me. As a

:57:48.:57:55.

child, Chipping Norton was our local town and I use together and spend my

:57:56.:57:58.

pocket money assiduously in the shops in Chipping Norton, so I have

:57:59.:58:01.

done my bit for his high-street and we are clear, as the Government,

:58:02.:58:07.

that business rates and issues regarding that will support local

:58:08.:58:12.

businesses. We are always grateful for extra information and we have

:58:13.:58:18.

now had it. This government's record on immigration detention is

:58:19.:58:26.

disgraceful. Amid concern over plans to get a short-term detention centre

:58:27.:58:33.

near Glasgow airport, will she use this as an bush unity to rethink her

:58:34.:58:43.

detention policy? -- and opportunity. A lot of work has been

:58:44.:58:47.

done by the Government on the issue of immigration detention and the

:58:48.:58:51.

number of changes have taken place. An Independent review took place the

:58:52.:58:58.

year or so ago on the question of detention of people. I would say, it

:58:59.:59:02.

is important that where there are people who are due to be removed

:59:03.:59:07.

from this country, and the prospect is that actually they could be lost

:59:08.:59:12.

in the system if they are not being detained, there are circumstances in

:59:13.:59:17.

which it is right to detain people in the immigration estate. We need

:59:18.:59:20.

to make sure we have got that right and that is why a lot of work has

:59:21.:59:24.

been bananas. The fundamental point, I suspect he does not think we

:59:25.:59:30.

should detain anybody in relation to immigration enforcement but we

:59:31.:59:34.

believe they should rightfully be detained before they are removed

:59:35.:59:39.

from this country. When people make fun of Christianity in this country,

:59:40.:59:45.

it rightly turns the other cheek. When a young gymnast, Louis Smith,

:59:46.:59:50.

makes fun of another religion widely practised in this country, he is

:59:51.:59:53.

hounded on Twitter by the media and suspended by his association. For

:59:54.:00:01.

goodness sake, this man received death threats and we have all looked

:00:02.:00:04.

the other way. My question to the Prime Minister is, what is going on

:00:05.:00:09.

in this country? I no longer understand the rules. I understand

:00:10.:00:16.

the level of concern my honourable friend has raised in relation to

:00:17.:00:21.

this matter. This is a balance that we need to find. We value freedom of

:00:22.:00:27.

expression and freedom of its buses like a speech in this country. That

:00:28.:00:31.

is essential in underpinning our democracy. We also value tolerance

:00:32.:00:36.

to others, tolerance in relation to religion. This is one of the issues

:00:37.:00:41.

we have looked at in the counter extremism strategy the Government

:00:42.:00:45.

has produced. I think we need to ensure it is right that people can

:00:46.:00:50.

have that freedom of expression but in so doing that right has a

:00:51.:00:56.

responsibility as well. That is a responsibility recognise the

:00:57.:01:01.

importance of tolerance to others. Mr Speaker, today's daily record

:01:02.:01:07.

leads on DWP issues. Is the Prime Minister aware Telephone call to the

:01:08.:01:09.

Department for Work and Pensions by a severely disabled person of a

:01:10.:01:16.

carer can cost up to 45p a minute. This is a considerable sum from the

:01:17.:01:21.

Social Security entitlement. Should a disabled citizen pay this price or

:01:22.:01:24.

does the Prime Minister agree with me that we should end this telephone

:01:25.:01:30.

tax on the most honourable in our society? The honourable gentleman

:01:31.:01:34.

raises an issue that has been raised on a number of occasions in this

:01:35.:01:38.

House. The Government is in promoting new guidelines in relation

:01:39.:01:41.

to the operation of these telephone lines and a number of lines are

:01:42.:01:47.

being reduced. The Government has recognised this issue and is taking

:01:48.:01:54.

action. The last 18 months have been hell for commuters in my

:01:55.:01:58.

constituency in Lewis at using the southern row network. Last night a

:01:59.:02:02.

journey which should have taken an hour took over four hours. And I

:02:03.:02:06.

begged the Prime Minister to intervene on the southern network?

:02:07.:02:10.

Why we have a country that works for everyone we have a railway that

:02:11.:02:15.

works for no one. I feel for my honourable friend in relation to the

:02:16.:02:19.

journey she had to go through last night and the extended time that

:02:20.:02:24.

tip. We have my right honourable friend, the Secretary of State

:02:25.:02:27.

transport, who has taken action in recent weeks in relation to the

:02:28.:02:32.

improvements are necessary. We have stepped in to invest ?20 million to

:02:33.:02:37.

tackle the breakdown on the southern row network that has proven so

:02:38.:02:42.

difficult to passengers. -- southern rail. I recognise the degree of

:02:43.:02:47.

concern. The Secretary of State transport is working on this to

:02:48.:02:54.

ensure those improvements. Has the Prime Minister spotted the ludicrous

:02:55.:02:59.

refusal by Fifa, the footballing federation, to let our players wear

:03:00.:03:04.

poppies at the forthcoming Scotland - England game? Will he tell the

:03:05.:03:08.

respective associations that in this country we decide when to wear

:03:09.:03:13.

poppies? And they will be wearing them at Wembley. I think the stance

:03:14.:03:21.

that has been taken by Fifa is utterly outrageous. Our football

:03:22.:03:25.

players want to recognise and respect those who have given their

:03:26.:03:31.

lives for our safety and security. I think it is absolutely right they

:03:32.:03:36.

should be able to do so. It is for our football associations but a

:03:37.:03:39.

clear message is going from this House. We want our players to be

:03:40.:03:43.

able to wear those poppies. I have to say two feet, before they start

:03:44.:03:49.

telling us what to do, they ought to sort their own house out. -- I have

:03:50.:04:00.

to say to Fifa. Could I congratulate my right honourable friend on her

:04:01.:04:03.

recent announcement of a task force to stamp out the file business of

:04:04.:04:13.

modern slavery? Would she join me in congratulating my constituents, Mike

:04:14.:04:16.

Emberson, and the men I trust on their ten years of work with the

:04:17.:04:20.

victims and the 70 places they now provide across their homes for these

:04:21.:04:32.

most unfortunate women? -- Menai. I have met with representatives from

:04:33.:04:36.

the Menai Trust. It is right we continue our momentum in the fight

:04:37.:04:45.

against modern slavery. Too much slavery is taking place on the

:04:46.:04:48.

streets and in the towns and villages of this country. That is

:04:49.:04:53.

why the task force I have setup will continue that momentum. We will be

:04:54.:04:57.

relentless in our pursuit of ensuring we eradicate modern

:04:58.:05:04.

slavery. Thank you, Mr Speaker. In July, the Armed Forces charity

:05:05.:05:07.

published an in-depth survey of nearly 1000 working age veterans.

:05:08.:05:12.

85% thought the UK did not give them enough support. Only 16% thought the

:05:13.:05:17.

Armed Forces covenant was being implemented effectively. What is the

:05:18.:05:21.

Prime Minister doing personally to change this? We absolutely recognise

:05:22.:05:28.

the debt we owe to our veterans. That is why we have the Armed Forces

:05:29.:05:38.

covenant. We recognise the support necessary for veterans. He talks

:05:39.:05:41.

about what we can do. One thing we can do is to help people coming out

:05:42.:05:45.

of the Armed Forces actually find their way into the world of work.

:05:46.:05:48.

That is quite is important that we have a system which helps them to

:05:49.:05:52.

find a support necessary to get into the world of work and we have an

:05:53.:05:56.

economy providing jobs that people need. This week it is wind energy

:05:57.:06:04.

week. The devell at the offshore wind sector is vital to my

:06:05.:06:12.

Cleethorpes constituency. Can you ensure the governor will continue to

:06:13.:06:14.

work with the industry to develop future jobs for young people with

:06:15.:06:22.

emphasis on training? I am happy to reassure my honourable friend that

:06:23.:06:25.

the Government will continue to work with this industry. It has been an

:06:26.:06:30.

important development for the United Kingdom and an important part of the

:06:31.:06:34.

amount of energy we are now generating from renewables. As he

:06:35.:06:38.

said it does provide jobs and we need to ensure we look at training

:06:39.:06:42.

for people to be able to take up those jobs. That is why skills is

:06:43.:06:49.

part of the work we are doing on our future industrial strategy. Will the

:06:50.:06:53.

Prime Minister agree with me that it is highly irresponsible and

:06:54.:06:58.

dangerous for people to talk up the prospects of increased violence in

:06:59.:07:01.

Northern Ireland as a result of us are leaving the U? People should

:07:02.:07:08.

used the agreed institutions set up under various agreements, not stand

:07:09.:07:13.

outside them or create new ones. Can she assure me it will not result in

:07:14.:07:18.

an impeding of the way that people in countries within the UK connect

:07:19.:07:24.

with each other? I am very happy to get the right honourable gentleman

:07:25.:07:27.

that assurance in relation to movement around the United Kingdom.

:07:28.:07:33.

No change will take place. It is right that what we will do in Brexit

:07:34.:07:38.

is ensure it is a good deal for the whole of the United Kingdom. Those

:07:39.:07:41.

who wish to encourage violence off the back of that frankly should be

:07:42.:07:45.

ashamed of themselves. It is absolutely essential that we all

:07:46.:07:48.

work together to make a success of this and get the best possible

:07:49.:07:52.

opportunities for people across the whole of the United Kingdom. Will

:07:53.:08:00.

she join me in praising Henley-on-Thames for receiving its

:08:01.:08:02.

first tranche of community infrastructure money at the higher

:08:03.:08:08.

rate because it has a neighbourhood plan? Will she join me in saying

:08:09.:08:13.

this is the best means of giving communities a say over planning

:08:14.:08:19.

issues? I am very happy to congratulate both my neighbouring MP

:08:20.:08:22.

and congratulate Henley-on-Thames for achieving that. He is right.

:08:23.:08:28.

Neighbourhood plans are a crucial part of the planning system. That is

:08:29.:08:31.

the way in which a local people can have a real say over what is

:08:32.:08:45.

happening in their local area. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can I add my

:08:46.:08:49.

congratulations to my honourable friend and member for St Helens?

:08:50.:08:54.

Moving swiftly from midwives to doctors, is the Prime Minister aware

:08:55.:09:00.

that doctors in Doncaster are facing a crisis in primary care? As GPs

:09:01.:09:04.

retire, it is proving almost impossible to get new ones to take

:09:05.:09:10.

over their practices. Because of restrictions in the health and

:09:11.:09:15.

social care act, NHS bodies cannot take necessary action, for example

:09:16.:09:19.

to put in salaried GPs. Will she do something about this quickly because

:09:20.:09:22.

otherwise many of my constituents will be left without a doctor? Mr

:09:23.:09:32.

Speaker, can I say, because I did not after my unfortunate mistake I

:09:33.:09:36.

made earlier about the right honourable gentleman, I failed to

:09:37.:09:39.

add my congratulations to her honourable friend, the member for St

:09:40.:09:46.

Helens. I am happy now to do. On the point of GPs, it is important that

:09:47.:09:52.

we see the number of GPs coming through so that we can replace those

:09:53.:09:57.

who are retiring. Over the last six years we have seen thousands more

:09:58.:10:02.

GPs in our NHS that is why my right honourable friend, the Secretary of

:10:03.:10:06.

State for Health, is ensuring we have a programme to bring forward

:10:07.:10:10.

more GPs, more doctors into training, so we can ensure places

:10:11.:10:16.

like her constituency and others around this House actually have GPs

:10:17.:10:17.

in the numbers they need. Prime Minister's Questions come to

:10:18.:10:33.

an end a little earlier by the standards of the current speaker.

:10:34.:10:38.

Jeremy Corbyn asked about the cut in work allowances on universal credit.

:10:39.:10:44.

Those of you who watched the Sunday Politics last weekend will know what

:10:45.:10:49.

is involved. He said it leaves people worse off. He also talks

:10:50.:10:52.

about than the rising number of people being sanctions on benefits

:10:53.:10:54.

and it led to people becoming homeless. That was the gist of the

:10:55.:11:10.

main exchanges. It all started after, the Prime Minister seemed to

:11:11.:11:16.

think Jeremy Corbyn had just had a granddaughter. What I understand is,

:11:17.:11:22.

there is a background to this. As a Labour MP, former whip called,

:11:23.:11:31.

McGinn. He hacked to deliver his own baby. Mr Corbyn began PMQs by

:11:32.:11:38.

congratulating him on the happy news. Theresa May for some reason.

:11:39.:11:45.

Jeremy Corbyn was talking about the birth of his own granddaughter. When

:11:46.:11:49.

she discovered that was not the case, immediately blamed her former

:11:50.:11:54.

Chief Whip and I think current Transport Secretary, Patrick

:11:55.:11:59.

McLaughlin for giving her duff news. So there we go. I am sure you all

:12:00.:12:05.

wanted to know that. Made it clear. Jeremy Corbyn looked surprised. We

:12:06.:12:11.

all looked surprised. The big story to come out of this was nothing to

:12:12.:12:19.

do with that. It was when asked about Fifa's ban on teams wearing

:12:20.:12:27.

poppies this weekend that it is outrageous that players should not

:12:28.:12:39.

wear poppies this weekend, and before anything else and worrying

:12:40.:12:42.

about poppies, it should sort its own house out.

:12:43.:12:48.

Just a little bit on the common McGinn scenario. Someone said

:12:49.:12:54.

politicians really shouldn't do jokes or witty observations. Ian

:12:55.:13:02.

White lycees, Theresa May was able to whack Jeremy Corbyn with the

:13:03.:13:06.

welfare party tag as David Cameron used to. She seemed to be

:13:07.:13:10.

uncomfortable under questioning from Angus Robertson from the SNP.

:13:11.:13:16.

Christopher says, one of Jeremy Corbyn's failure is his inability to

:13:17.:13:20.

follow up on the answer the Prime Minister gives him, he just moves on

:13:21.:13:26.

to the next question. Bill Taylor says, why didn't Jeremy Corbyn bring

:13:27.:13:30.

up the Orgreave enquiry. People thought it was going to be announced

:13:31.:13:34.

by the government, but Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary, decided not to

:13:35.:13:39.

give it the go-ahead because Labour did nothing about it. And someone

:13:40.:13:48.

else says, do these people trawl through the obituaries to express

:13:49.:13:53.

condolences. It is mostly people we have never heard about. It is morbid

:13:54.:14:06.

and gruesome. Strange week with as oceans and

:14:07.:14:13.

babies being delivered. The question about poppies and F came from a

:14:14.:14:18.

Labour backbencher. It may be the Prime Minister wasn't aware that was

:14:19.:14:26.

coming. But I would suggest for her to say it is utterly outrageous that

:14:27.:14:31.

if it did come up, she knew what she would say about it? It seems she was

:14:32.:14:36.

ready with an answer and an attack on Fifa, not the most difficult

:14:37.:14:42.

people to attack, given what has happened at Fifa and she felt very

:14:43.:14:46.

strongly about it and she was ready with the answer. And after a scrappy

:14:47.:14:53.

session of PMQs, that was the standout answer. Something that will

:14:54.:14:59.

be picked up on across-the-board. Whether what the British Prime

:15:00.:15:03.

Minister says about Fifa's own rules and if they should apply is not

:15:04.:15:12.

clear. Most voters in this country think it is ridiculous that Fifa can

:15:13.:15:17.

set out a ruling that the English, Scottish and Welsh football teams

:15:18.:15:21.

cannot wear poppies this weekend. Jeremy Corbyn concentrated on what

:15:22.:15:29.

would be the cuts to some of the help on universal credit as it is

:15:30.:15:33.

introduced. Which has the effect of making, for the working poor who are

:15:34.:15:41.

dependent on benefits to top up their pay, the marginal rate of tax,

:15:42.:15:47.

the loss of benefits, becomes a much higher than was originally

:15:48.:15:51.

envisaged. Mr Corbyn didn't quote any Tory backbenchers and this, that

:15:52.:15:54.

the Prime Minister is under pressure. He could have quoted Iain

:15:55.:16:01.

Duncan Smith, who has said he believes these cuts should be

:16:02.:16:05.

stopped. And forgive the brief history lesson, lasted the

:16:06.:16:09.

government was pressured into dropping the planned cuts, but they

:16:10.:16:15.

kept up with the planned cuts for universal credit. That will replace

:16:16.:16:19.

the tax credit system. So the immediate cuts to families, which

:16:20.:16:24.

would have been significant to people on tax credits, was deferred.

:16:25.:16:29.

It didn't disappear and it will take place, if as scheduled, under

:16:30.:16:34.

universal credit. People receiving tax credits will move onto the

:16:35.:16:38.

universal credit system and the amount of support they will get will

:16:39.:16:42.

be less than had been planned. But there isn't at the stage, any signed

:16:43.:16:49.

the government will back down on this the Autumn Statement. The

:16:50.:16:51.

campaign around it may gather momentum, but at this stage it

:16:52.:16:55.

doesn't feel like the amount of pressure built up on George Osborne.

:16:56.:17:02.

I will not ask you to pre-empt what is in the Autumn Statement, but the

:17:03.:17:05.

Prime Minister has made a big deal of the just managing classes from

:17:06.:17:16.

which, is the working poor. So therefore, we can judge her on this,

:17:17.:17:20.

we can now look at what she does compared with the rhetoric on the

:17:21.:17:25.

steps of Downing Street. In two ways, the working poor are about to

:17:26.:17:30.

take a hit. One is the way Laura has been talking about, less of a top up

:17:31.:17:33.

because of the cuts being made to their pretty low pay. The second, as

:17:34.:17:40.

inflation rises, their benefits are not indexed linked, so they get hit

:17:41.:17:45.

in that way and it could be a real terms cut for them. I don't quite

:17:46.:17:50.

understand at the moment how she lives up to that working pro

:17:51.:17:54.

rhetoric. What you are not taking into account is the national living

:17:55.:17:59.

wage, the work going on to see that people are going into work. The

:18:00.:18:06.

record levels of employment. As she said during PMQs, work should always

:18:07.:18:11.

pay and the balance supporting those on welfare, but also those paying

:18:12.:18:15.

for it as well. She made a clear point for those who aren't on high

:18:16.:18:21.

wages but are equally contributing to the welfare system. It is that

:18:22.:18:27.

overall balance she is articulating, the pathway to employment and the

:18:28.:18:31.

life opportunity it brings. There are more working poor, but when 1.2

:18:32.:18:38.

million get the rise in the national minimum wage, what marginal rate of

:18:39.:18:46.

tax will they pay on it? We have the ?7 20 at the moment in relation to

:18:47.:18:50.

the national living wage and that will increase steadily. But what

:18:51.:18:57.

marginal rate of tax will they pay? I will not pre-empt the Autumn

:18:58.:19:02.

Statement. For some people it could be as high as 75%, when you take

:19:03.:19:08.

into account the tax they pay and the benefits they will lose. Another

:19:09.:19:16.

?100, which could be a lot of money for the working poor, they lose ?75

:19:17.:19:22.

of it. Would you do extra work for ?100 knowing he would lose ?70? It

:19:23.:19:30.

is giving the sense of opportunity for people to yes, move into

:19:31.:19:34.

employment. The welfare system is there as a hand up, to help people

:19:35.:19:40.

through difficult opportunities. But as the Prime Minister also

:19:41.:19:44.

indicated, we have this issue of sanctions, which the Leader of the

:19:45.:19:49.

Opposition highlighted. There are a relatively small number of people

:19:50.:19:52.

who are sanctions, but it is right we have the sense of helping people

:19:53.:19:57.

into employment and if they don't play by those rules, then obviously

:19:58.:20:05.

there are sanctions that can operate. I didn't ask about

:20:06.:20:07.

sanctions, if the idea is to make work pay and encourage people to get

:20:08.:20:13.

into work and to keep more of what they own, I don't understand how

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taking away 75% of the extra effort they make is encouraging work to

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pay. The point is, you have a welfare system where work should

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always pay, the basic sense of employment and the wages you

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receive. The richest people in this land don't face a marginal rate of

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75%. If they did, there would be rushed to the Borders. But we expect

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the working poor to marginal rates of tax up to that level. It used to

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be higher, one stage it was over 90%. But 75, with seeing too many

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people, to discourage trying to do a bit more, particularly if you are

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already in a job that is hard work, minimum wage, long hours and no huge

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remuneration. Then you are told you will get a pay rise. You think,

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good, I deserve it. But then you are told, by the way he will only get

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25% of that pay rise. It is not fair, is it? We are taking steps to

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ensure work will always pay, in relation to where the welfare cap is

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in relation to employment. We are only judging Theresa May, the Prime

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Minister, by the yardstick she has set herself. We will see what the

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Autumn Statement is, we will come back to you in a minute. What do you

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make of the Prime Minister saying to Jeremy Corbyn, you don't agree in

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assessments, you don't agree in sanctions or any limits to welfare,

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is it true? It is not true at all and Jeremy Corbyn hasn't said that.

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We said if you have a system, it needs to operate fairly. So you do

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believe in sanctions? If people consistently break the rules in

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relation to benefits and entitlements, then of course. But

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they should be a last resort. What we have seen is a plethora of

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sanctions to people who shouldn't have been sanctioned and that is why

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they end up in situations where they rely on food banks or homeless.

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Final thought, Laura? You saw this row between David Cameron and Ed

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Miliband, we will see this row over the next years between Theresa May

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and Jeremy Corbyn. Partly because the way the Tories took about this,

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you have people on welfare and people who are in work. Most people

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on benefits have jobs, so there is a slight either intentional

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misunderstanding or a fundamental different worldview. Because they

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are the just managing? This may trip Theresa May. She said this is the

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party that understands working class people. It is her ambition to place

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herself in that sense, but it will have to go a long way to match up

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the rhetoric she is hoping to make the centre of her mission, if you

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like. We will continue to monitor the rhetoric and the policy.

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Penny Mordaunt on the programme said there were no plans to reverse those

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cuts, but no plans is not quite the same.

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Michael Heseltine said he had no plans to stand against Margaret

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Thatcher. What about the Alsatian? That wasn't consulted. Coming back

:23:50.:24:02.

to Theresa May's comment about Fifa banning the home countries wearing

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poppies. Wales face Serbia. The further forbids what it calls

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political imagery. Answering a question from the Labour MP Steve

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McCabe during PMQs, Theresa May said the flesh should think again. I

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think the stand is being taken by Fifa is outrageous. Our football

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players have won to recognise and respect those who have given their

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lives for our safety and security. It is absolutely right they should

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be able to do so and it is for our football associations, but a clear

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message is going from this house. We want our players to wear those

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poppies. I have to say to Fifa, before they tell us what to do, they

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jolly well should sort their own house out. We are joined by the

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associate editor of the Daily Mirror, Kevin Maguire. She is right,

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isn't she? This is a rerun of an argument five years ago when a

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compromise was reached that England players will wear a black armband

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with poppies on it. But the reason it has breached the rules, the

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commercial symbols, we see the poppy as a symbol of remembrance, others

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will see it differently. If you allow something, let's remember they

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raise money for serving soldiers, not just of those from previous

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wars. But what about the red Army benevolent fund wants to be on the

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Russian shirt or the People's Army of China in North Korea or they want

:25:45.:25:52.

an anti-Israeli slogan of the Revolutionary guards in Iran want to

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have a go at Iraq. You open the door and lots of people will be calling

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for symbols that we would find offensive. But remembering the war

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dead, is it the same as a political statement? It is a political side to

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any war and the money is raised for serving troops now, including those

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who fought in Iraq, Afghanistan, two hugely controversial conflicts

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around the world. It is ridiculous we have a clear symbol where we

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remember our war dead, remembering those who have given their lives in

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service of their country and we have a situation where there is

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precedent, other sports are allow this and Fifa are standing in the

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way of this. I don't understand why they are taking this stance and it

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is so ridiculous. If Fifa said yes to everybody would be adorned in all

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sorts of political symbols that would be more controversial? I think

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Fifa should keep out of it, and I agree with Theresa May. Fifa should

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look at their corruption and people dying building stadiums for the next

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World Cup. I have been watching football the decades, I have got the

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grey hair. But the truth is, in England, clubs never used to put the

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poppy on their shirts. This only started a few years ago. You would

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have great anniversaries for the First World War, Second World War,

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they didn't have Fifa. Then all of a sudden, a football game, awash with

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money and a terrible image, has latched onto the poppy to show it

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cares. Should they were the poppy? Absolutely I think they should. Do

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you advise them to wear it and get the fine? I suppose then they can

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give somebody else another bong. They are not going to kick the

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country out of a competition or deduct points, so I presume it is a

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fine. Would it open the floodgates to other countries? All of a sudden

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we would find ourselves are objecting to symbols on other

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country's shirts. Thank you for joining us today on the subject of

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poppies. There's just time to put you out

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of your misery and give You press the button, Jo.

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Congratulations, Roger. He writes great songs. No, that is his

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brother. BBC One news coming up. Jo and I

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will be here tomorrow with more of the Daily Politics. Love to see you

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then. Goodbye. He's a scientist,

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brilliant apparently. But you may be bringing people over

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here who did things during the war. I will not work for you. I will not

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work for the British Government. Let us not let the past haunt

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all of our actions. You've got to do something!

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It's only you that can!

:29:23.:29:26.

Andrew Neil and Jo Coburn with live coverage of Prime Minister's Questions. Andrew and Jo are joined by the secretary of state for Northern Ireland James Brokenshire and shadow secretary of state for Wales Jo Stevens to discuss Keith Vaz's appointment to the Justice Select Committee and All-Ireland talks on Brexit.

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