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Morning, folks, welcome to the Daily Politics.


The Government lost its battle with the judges over Article 50,


but it's confident it will win the war when it comes


to Parliament kicking off the process of leaving the EU.


The Government plans to rush a Bill through the Commons and the Lords


of triggering Article 50 by the end of March.


Labour has threatened to wage "hand-to-hand combat"


to ensure proper scrutiny of the Brexit process.


So will there be verbal fisticuffs at Prime Minister's Questions?


Donald Trump will welcome Theresa May to the White House on Friday,


the first foreign leader to meet the new President.


So what are the chances of a new US-UK trade deal


Some grammar schools in England say they could start


asking parents for money to cope with cash shortfalls.


But will they lose out under the Government's new funding formula?


All that in the next hour and a half, and with us for the duration


are Home Office Minister Brandon Lewis


and the Shadow Brexit Minister, Paul Blomfield.


Now, the Government says it's still on course


of triggering Article 50 by the end of March.


That would then kick off the formal two-year exit negotiation


with the EU and, if all goes according to plan,


would result in our departure in March 2019.


Yesterday, the Supreme Court upheld a High Court judgment


which said the Government could only trigger Article 50


So what's the timetable between now and the triggering of Article 50?


Tomorrow, the Government is expected to publish a short Bill mandating


The hope for Theresa May is that she can pass


the bill through the Commons in a couple of weeks.


But opposition parties say they'll try to amend the legislation.


And the bill will also need to pass the House of Lords,


where the Government does not have a majority.


The Labour Party is expected to set out four amendments to the bill,


including one that would require the Government


to produce a white paper, or formal policy document,


That's set to be backed a number of Tory backbenchers


who supported Remain in the referendum.


And the Scottish National Party will table 50 amendments,


to give the devolved administrations a bigger role in the Brexit process.


So there will be a lot for the Prime Minister to mull over


on her flight to Washington on Friday,


world leaders to meet President Donald Trump.


Discussions of a trade deal with the US will top the agenda,


with Downing Street keen to capitalise


on Britain's place at the "front of the queue".


Back on home soil, Mrs May's self-imposed deadline


to trigger Article 50 is the end of March.


But can she get her Brexit bill through Parliament in time?


And what will it look like when it becomes law?


The Brexit Secretary, David Davis, has been speaking about the


Government's next steps. Last year the British


people made a decision The Government is going


to deliver on that decision. Last week, the Prime Minister laid


out a plan, answered every question that it's possible to answer,


laid down by the Opposition, the Select Committee,


seen as clear throughout the world and supported in many places,


and we're going to deliver on that. The Article 50 ruling


is not going to stop that. We're going to have legislation,


very shortly, in the next few weeks, I'm joined now by the SNP's economy


spokesman, Stewart Hosie. Welcome to the Daily Politics.


Stewart Hosie, new figures show that Scottish trade with the rest of the


UK continues to be with four times more than its exports to the EU, so


these numbers just continue to underline why it is far more


important for Scotland to remain part of the UK than the EU, don't


they? Well, they certainly are bigger, no question about that, four


times bigger, but the EU market is eight times bigger, and the growth


in trade up until the figures today, I think in the seven years to 2014,


from memory, was a 12% increase from Scotland to the rest of the UK, 20%


increase to the EU, and 50% of the rest of the world, Jordan by EU


agreements. Where is your evidence for that? We can publish those


figures, I have been through this stuff, more than happy to do that.


The whole point about it is there is no point looking at the static


position. What we cannot do is surrender the growth we are seeing


in the EU, and the growth we are seeing globally, Drouin by EU trade


agreements. So it is vital, among other things, that we have trade


agreements in place to replace the ones we are going to lose. I have


got the Scottish Government export figures here, they have been done


since 2002. Scottish exports to the European Union in 2002 were just


over 10 billion. In 2014-15, they were just over 10 billion, they


haven't moved in ten years. These are your government's figures. I


have published the figures... The figures I have given you show the


increase in trade to the EU and the increase in trade to the rest of the


world, happily publish those figures. The increase in trade to


the rest of the UK, under 30 billion in 2002, almost 50,000,000,020 14.


That is where the rises. Scottish Government export statistics


published by your government. I will publish the figures which I have


given you today, I am happy to do that, but the point I am making is a


substantial point, that we cannot surrender trade growth and access to


EU and global markets by abandoning the EU trade treaties, unless and


until other alternatives are put in place, and we don't revert


immediately to the worst-case scenario of the tariff every WTO


rules. But let's look at those figures in detail, in terms of the


amount of trade, the latest export statistics, Scottish data shows the


country sold ?49.8 billion to the rest of the UK in 2015. That is 2.1


billion more than the previous year, it is increasing. Exports to the EU


rose by ?520 million to a total of just ?12.3 billion. That is ?50


billion versus 12.3 billion, so which market is more important? On


the static figures, there is no disputing that the UK market is...


By a massive margin! As is Scotland to the rest of the UK, the rest of


the UK's second largest export market. Your colleagues said it was


the first, about Scotland being England's biggest export


destination, which was not true. That was in the context of the EU,


it is the biggest market in the EU for exports. She didn't say that,


she said the biggest export destination, and she was talking


about goods and services, as compared to HMRC statistics, much


higher to the USA. And indeed I have just said that, the whole debate was


about the EU. Excuse me, I did that interview - she said quite plainly


that Scotland was England's biggest export market. It wasn't just about


the EU, and Alex Salmond said on Radio 4, Scotland is England's


biggest export market. It is not true. The numbers are very clear.


Yeah, it is not true. The US is the UK's largest export market, Scotland


is the second. Given we are focused on the EU and Brexit, the argument


that Scotland is the UK's largest export market in the EU is


absolutely correct, but the key thing, we are about to abandon trade


treaties that will begin trade growth around the world and revert


to tariff heavy and damaging WTO rules. That is where we need to be


having the focus. You are worried about tariffs being placed on goods,


it will affect growth, and any free trade deal that might be done, so


you are putting down 50 amendments on the Article 50 bill. Now, you


have got 54 MPs, almost one third MP, is there any chance he will win


enough support for any of those amendments? Well, our number one is


a white paper. I think there is huge support for that. Secondly, this


full is back to yesterday's ruling, we think the joint Ministerial


Council should take a unanimous view so that any of the devolved nations


are not railroaded. And then when we come to specific things, like


ensuring academic funding of 2020, like ensuring trade arrangements are


put in place, financial passporting for our financial services industry,


one would imagine there would be substantial support for the


certainty we currently do not have. If you don't get what you are


looking for, what you feel you should be part of those discussions,


when will you go for an independence referendum? We are not in a position


of calling a referendum today. No, but by the end of March Article 50


will have been triggered. We are in a position right now, the Scottish


Government, trying to persuade the UK Government to take the least


worst option, to mitigate some of the damage Brexit will cause. That


is where we are at the moment, so we need to wait and see what the joint


ministerial councils say formally about the Scottish Government


submission, which is a very detailed paper indeed, far more detailed than


the 12 point presentation the Prime Minister gave at Lancaster House.


Stewart Hosie, thank you. Well, Labour says it doesn't trust


the Government to negotiate on behalf of the country


without them "keeping an eye on it". The Shadow Foreign Secretary even


threatened to get physical in order to ensure proper scrutiny


of the Brexit process. We think she wasn't


being entirely literal, We do not trust them to go off


on their own and negotiate on our behalf, in Europe,


without us keeping an eye on them. That's why, today,


what we were saying, was that Article 50,


if it is going to be triggered, we will not get in the way of it


but we will try and amend the legislation in order to ensure


that they keep coming back, and if necessary there will be


hand-to-hand combat on this. We need to make sure we get the best


deal on behalf of the whole country. She can't say she acts on behalf


of the whole country without actually negotiating


with Parliament, Paul Blomfield, what did she mean by


hand-to-hand combat? Well, I think you are right, we probably don't


mean that literally! I am glad you clarify that! I am sure you are


reassured as well! I think the point is we don't have confidence in the


Government going away with no accountability to negotiate what is


the most important decision this country has faced in our lifetime,


and it is not just Labour, it was clear across the House and among


businessmen I have been talking to. When the negotiations are taking


place, do you expect ministers to come back to Parliament and say,


well, we have negotiated this bit, can we have your approval? Do you


expect them to give a tale to account for Parliamentary scrutiny


while the talks are going on? -- a failed account. Not in that sense,


but there needs to be scrutiny, there needs to be proper


Parliamentary... So tell me how you would do it. The first thing is we


would not have at any explanation if it had not been for Labour forcing


that through on the floor of the House of Commons. We want a white


paper or policy document. What do you want to do when the negotiations


start? What you see at the role of Parliament then? I am confused. We


expect the Government to report back regularly. But I just said that and


you said no. What you said, with respect, Andrew, was in the gritty


detail of day-to-day discussions. Those negotiating on behalf of the


European Union will be reporting back regularly to the European


Parliament. The British Parliament deserves no less. Will you publish a


white paper? The government has been quite open about how we move


forward, the focus is around looking at what people say, the Prime


Minister outlined a plan, delivering on what the British people voted.


Let me repeat the question, will you publish a white paper? In terms of a


white paper, it is something the Government has got to be looking at,


but it comes down to a process discussion. What the public are


looking for is the Government to deliver what the public voted for,


the Prime Minister has outlined a clear plan, we have to get on with


delivering Brexit for the British people. So a white paper is a


possibility, is that right? The Government has been clear about


setting up the plans. And you want a white paper? If you don't get one,


do you still vote for Article 50? We are going to be tabling a number of


amendments, one on a white paper or policy document, which I think there


is wide support for. We want to hold the Prime Minister to the


negotiating objectives in terms of protecting the rights we have a


cumulated over 43 years. One will be on meaningful votes at the end of


the process, and that is what I mean when I say we want to have a grip on


what is going on. But if you don't get your amendments or a white


paper, do you still vote for Article 50? Article 50 triggers the process.


I know what it does, are you going to vote for it or not. I was going


to explain my vote in that context, because we respect the outcome of


the referendum, we lost, so we will vote to trigger the process to start


negotiations. Even if you don't get a white paper? We think we will get


a white paper, because there is huge support for it on both sides of the


house. It's hard to know what your party's


position is. Yesterday Jeremy Corbyn called for a press reless of


tariff-free access to the single market. 30 minutes later it was


retracted, why? I cannot explain that. Aren't you the Brexit... I


can't explain the details of the operation of our press team. But we


have been clear at all stages and Emily was last night. This was


Jeremy Corbyn's office. He said Labour would table an amendment to


guarantee "Full tariff-free access across the single market." Which by


the way is the Government's aim as well. If they do it is another


matter. Yet, 30 minutes after the press release was issued, that


sentence was removed, why? Let me be clear, we are in free of tar you


have-free impediment free access to the single market. Why remove it? I


cannot explain the actions of the press office but let's be clear, we


want tariff-free access to the single market. We want to tie


Theresa May down to that because that's what she claims she wants,


too. Brendan what is the argument against, when the deal is done, when


we see the terms of which we are leaving the European Union, the


best, your Government has been able to get after the 20-year process and


we see what the land lies as we leave the EU, what kind of deal it


will be. What is the argument for not putting that to a referendum?


Well the British people voted in a referendum to leave the European


Union. They didn't know the terms. We were very clear in the referendum


what it meant, it meant leaving the European Union. Anything that starts


looking like or politicians doing things that looks like it is delay,


the British people will be angry about. The British people voted in


principle to leave the EU. They also had broad outlines of what that


would mean, they felt it would mean controlling borders and so on. But


you know that the deal itself will be much more complicated and you may


not get all you want. Why can't we have another vote on that? What we


have said and what the Prime Minister has outlined and David


Davis, the Secretary of State has outlined is Parliament through the


process, the opposite of what Paul outlined, will have a change to


debate. I opened the debant we dated Brexit and securing and policing


last week, there will be more debates like that. It gives a chance


for Parliament to feed in, what it thinks about the issues. At the end


of the process when we know what the deal is, Parliament,


democratically-elected MPs will have a vote on that deal. But you can't


say yet whether you would vote for the deal or not because you don't


know the deal. So, that's still up for grabs, I assume. You need to


see... The votes at the end of the process are up for grabs. What isn't


up for grabs is voting to trigger the process. That's what the


referendum delieded. Brandon is misleading on some of the debates


we've had so far. The Government determined the topics of the debate.


We haven't talked about the single market or customs union or the key


issues facing the economy and jobs in this country. But there are more


debates to come. So these things will be covered. Equally, of course,


the Labour Party have opposition day debates, they could have brought


them in those. We have had debates about important things. Last week we


had a debate about what breaks it can mean and what our framework and


desires are for security, law enforcement and criminal justice,


just last week. All right. Would you support a referendum on the deal? We


are not calling for a referendum. Why not? Because the British people


have cast their verdict and to call their judgment into account at this


stage would be clearly a wrong thing to do. So what we are calling for is


for the Government to publish their plans, clearly and there is stuff


about Theresa May having done so in her speech. She has sown the seeds


of confusion on issues like the customs union, for example. We want


clarity and accountability throughout. OK, we'll leave it


there. So once Theresa May has got PMQs


out of the way, the next big thing in her


diary comes on Friday. Yes, that meeting with


President Trump at the White House. Theresa May will be


the first foreign leader And no doubt the prospects


of a trade deal between the two Our next biggest single trade


partner outside the EU is the USA, would be a big plus for


the Prime Minister. Well, the new administration has


been making warm noises We're excited that Prime Minister


May is coming on Friday. The degree to which,


I don't know yet. I'm sure we'll have an opportunity


to brief you out. I don't believe we have any plans


right now for a joint press conference but that's


something our team will be working out with Prime Minister May


and we'll keep you updated on that. Sean Spicer there, the White House


press spokesman. Brandon Lewis, a former chief White House trade


negotiator has said a trade deal with the US could help Britain


become the Singapore of the Western world is that what you are aiming


for We want it aim to make sure the UK and Great Britain, we don't want


to be mirror images, or variations of somebody else, the same with the


European deal. But a deal that is right for our country. With the


amount of trade we do with the United States, any further work we


can do in an improved and new trade deal has to be good for both our


countries and the UK economy. She said the challenge will be coming


with up a model that will work with both the US and UK. If that means


the UK becoming a bit like Singapore, as Philip Hammond


certainly warned,p didn't use the word Singapore but said they could


do things economically that could prepare the UK if they didn't get a


free trade deal with the EU that they would like, is that something


you would like to emulate, Singapore, a successful country,


somewhere you would like to emulate? You are right. A successful country


but I'm focussed on getting the right deal with the European Union,


getting a deal that's good for us and doing a deal with the United


States. Historically our economy and the United States' economy have


worked well. So coming up with a trade deal that works, that is


beneficial for both countries has to be a good thing and actually for the


global economy. Do you agree Singapore is a success story? It has


been a success story on their own terms but not the terms we want for


our country. You are right to highlight the extraordinary threat


that Philip Hammond and Theresa May made last week, about the sort of


country they'll make us if they don't get their way with the


European Union. That wasn't a threat to Europe or the rest of Europe, it


was a threat to the British people. Did you see it as a threat? Does it


mean slashing corporation tax further? I never prejudge what might


come in future budgets and we can't prejudge what will come. It is about


making sure we get a deal, a win-win, good for our country and


good for partners in Europe? But would you be prepared to take those


steps, would you see it as a win-win? That's something the


Chancellor will have to lack at as we go through the process based on


the decisions we are able to agree with the European Union. But


decisions on a trade deal with the America, if we get that the Treasury


and Government will look at what is right about this country. Always,


our first duty is what is right for the UK. Are you excited about the


prospect of Theresa May meeting Donald Trump? I have to say, I find


it extraordinary that Brandon is leaving the door open for a bargain


basement, low page, low packs poor public servant economy. Is that what


he said? That's what you are alluding to in your question about


Singapore and what Philip Hammond was threatening, we would try to be


the cheap man of Europe, competing on those terms, reducing costs.


That's your interpretation. My question is are you proud, looking


forward to Theresa May, the Prime Minister here being the first


foreign leader meeting Donald Trump? I think it is unfortunate while she


was issuing threats to Europe and our Foreign Secretary was casually


comparing French politicians with Nazis, that we are falling over


ourselves or that Theresa May is falling over herself to ingratiate


the UK with Donald Trump, who is a protectionist. It is going to be


very interesting to see what these trade deal discussions lead to?


Every indication is he could be an isolationist, protectionist, his


inauguration speech pointed in that direction - buy American, hire


American, America first. The Foreign Secretary didn't say anything like


what Paul inner iffed and it is not what I said either. In terms of the


Prime Minister going to the United States, I am proud of that. I think


it really reinforces the fact the world's largest globally economy,


the super power in the world at the moment, the United States, our


oldest, strongest ally, we do more with them in security and trade than


any other single country in the world and the fact they want to see


our British female Prime Minister first is a good indication of where


we are. And you dismiss the comments about building a war, making Mexico


play, outrageous comments, that can be parked, can it? No, it can't. I


think one of the points to remember in a good friendship, between


friends, you are able to have frank conversations. Is she going to have


that frank conversation? Snipe' confident our Prime Minister,


Theresa May, will have the strength and steel to explain exactly where


we stand as a country, things we don't always agree on and gooder


partners do have to have those conversations. The strength of our


friendship with America, as a country is that we can do that. All


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The Year on our website. It's coming up to midday here,


just take a look at Big Ben, Yes, Prime Minister's


Questions is on its way. A very foggy London today, but Laura


Kuenssberg has made it through the fog. I have. Are we going to return


to Europe today with Mr Corbyn? Well, as ever, it is always a bit


dangerous to be too sure about it. I think it would be pretty surprising.


This was so much the subject not just of the weekend, the thing


everybody has been talking about really since the new year but


absolutely of the moment with Labour and some Tory rebels, we call them


now, rebel Remainers, pushing for once at the same thing, both of them


pushing at this idea of forcing the Government to come up with a white


paper, a document in terms of presenting formally their plans for


the Brexit negotiations T maybe that Mr Corbyn decides to use some of his


questions to go on that. -- it may be. However, word suggesting he may


also pick up on the rough sleeping statistics on homelessness out this


morning. We know Jeremy Corbyn has made times raised the issue of


housing much those figures show a big rise. He may choose to mention


that. Is this line, we have heard it several times now, that we don't


want a bargain basement Britain, we don't want rights to be curtailed


and go the, at that haven way. Is that a line he might pursue? Indeed


I think they are trying it make that stick N terms of a critique of the


Government's plan for Brexit that is something, given that Labour


disagrees intermly over the facets of this, it is a message they are


unite around, we don't want the country to go in a direction they


are not happy with and workers' rights exploited. We know that's


something that Jeremy Corbyn has picked out again and again in terms


of Brexit. But, Paul Blomfield, Sadiq Khan, the Labour Mayor of


London says he has spoken to a number of people, including Frances


O'Grady who have been dealing with the Government, I've spoken to them


as well and he says - I don't think they want to weaken workers' rights,


I have seen no evidence in the conversations I have had, with


senior members of the Government that that is their aI conspiracy or


intention with something they want to do. It is indeed what what they


said and I think it is probably for Brandon or others to answer - what


did they mean by that threat, when Philip Hammond made his point and


Theresa May echoed it in her speech last beak, a different economic and


social model, what does it mean? But Sadiq Khan would not say this,


unless he believes it to be true. Well, we aim to hold the Government


to account on the pledge which David Davis made again yesterday, they


don't want to weaken workers' rights. So what does that


threatening change in our economic model mean? How are they using this


as a bargaining chip? Not a helpful quote from Sadiq Khan Know nor is


what one Government minister said to me yesterday, in the department they


were talking about - they were looking to be more progressive and


actually entrench rights in their particular part of Government than


actually currently under the EU legislation. I think it goes to the


fact that actually while Brexit s if you like a menu without prices, it


is difficult for Labour to be able to be clear. It is rhetoric


attacking rhetoric, rather than raet Rick going after a reality. What are


the chances the Government whips out a white paper from its handbag in


the next couple of weeks? I think it is not impossible and ministers are


very happy to have this up their sleeve. However there has been a


debate about whether or not they should do it now T would be an


unplanned defeat, if you like, an unplanned concession, when they felt


really very chipper last night in the wake of the legal ruling but it


is not impossible they go - here you are, here is one I made earlier.


Stnt just a cut and paste job of Theresa May's speech with the odd


foot note. Well... Hold that without. Over to PMQs.


I am sure the whole House will wish to join me in welcoming Mr Speaker


and his colleagues. Order, questions to the Prime Minister, Helen Jones!


Number one, Sir. The Prime Minister. As the response from the whole House


showed, we do indeed all welcome the Speaker of the Burmese Parliament


and his colleagues to see our deliberations today. I am also sure


that the whole house will join me in sending our thoughts to the police


officer who was shot in Belfast over the weekend, and to his friends and


family. PSNI do a superb job in keeping us set and secure. Mr


Speaker, this morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and


others. In a addition to my duties in this house, I will further such


meetings, and later this week I will travel to the United States for with


President Trump. May I join the Prime Minister in sending good


wishes to the police officer who was shot in Belfast? They are the best


strikers on social mobility, 99% are rated good or outstanding, and 65%


of their places are in the most deprived areas of this country. So


why is the Prime Minister introducing cuts that threatened the


very existence of maintained nursery schools? When it comes to social


mobility, her actions speak far louder than her words. I want to


ensure, and this Government wants to ensure, that we see good quality


education at every age and at every stage for children in this country.


That is why we are looking at improving the number of good school


places, budget talks about my record, speaking louder than words.


Can I just point out to the honourable lady that I was very


proud, as chairman of an education authority in London in the 1990s, to


introduce nursery school places for every three and four -year-old whose


parents wanted one? The Prime Minister laid out a clear and bold


plan for Brexit in her speech last week. Honourable... Honourable


members... Honourable members, quite rightly, want an opportunity to


scrutinise that plan. Does the Prime Minister agree that the best way of


facilitating that scrutiny would be a government white paper, laying out


the vision for a global Britain, based on free trade, in goods and


services, that will be to the benefit of ours and other European


countries? Well, my honourable friend raises the question of


Parliamentary scrutiny. I have been clear, as have senior ministers,


that we will ensure that Parliament has every opportunity to provide


that scrutiny on this issue as we go through this process. By directing


nice, I set out that bold plan for a global Britain last week, and I


recognise there is an opportunity for a white paper. My honourable


friend's question, I can confirm to the House that our plan will be set


out in a white paper. Jeremy Corbyn! Mr Speaker, I joined the Prime


Minister in condolences, in expressing condolences, I am sure,


the whole House to the family of the police officer who lost his life


over the weekend in Northern Ireland. Mr Speaker, the Prime


Minister has wasted 80 days between the time of the original judgment


and the appeal, and is now finally admitting today, after pressure from


all sides, that there is going to be a date paper. Could we know when


this white paper is going to be available to us? And why it has


taken so long to get it? LAUGHTER


Prime Minister! Can I say to the right honourable gentleman, he asked


for debates, I was very clear there will always be debates in this


House, and there will continue to be. The asked for votes, the House


voted overwhelmingly for the Government to trigger Article 50


before the end of March this year. He asked for a plan, I set out, as


my honourable friend for Croydon South said, a clear plan for a bold


future for Britain. He and others ask for a white paper, I have been


clear there will be a white paper. But I am also clear that the right


honourable gentleman always ask about process, about the means to


the end. I and this government are focusing on the outcomes. We are


focusing... We are focusing on a truly global Britain, building a


stronger future for this country, the right deal for Britain and


Britain out of the European Union. Jeremy Corbyn! Mr Speaker, I


question wasn't complicated, it's just asked when the white paper will


come out! And will it be published before or at the same time as the


bill that is apparently about to be published? Mr Speaker, last week, I


asked the Prime Minister repeatedly to clarify whether her government is


prepared to pay to secure tariff free access to the single European


market. She repeatedly refused to answer the question, so I will ask


again. Is there a government ruling out paying a fee for tariff free


access to the single market, or the bespoke Customs union that she


outlined also in a speech? Than I first of all say to the right


honourable gentleman, in his reference to the timing issue, these


are two separate issues. The House has overwhelmingly voted that


Article 50 should be triggered before the end of March 2017,


following the Supreme Court judgment a bill will be provided for this


House, and there will be the proper debate in this chamber and another


place on that bill. There is then the separate question of publishing


the plan that I have set out, a bold vision for Britain for the future. I


will do that in a white paper, and the right honourable gentleman knows


that one of our objectives is the best possible free trade arrangement


with the European Union, and that is what we will be negotiating for.


Jeremy Corbyn! Some of this is very worrying too many people in this


House, but more importantly it is worrying to many others. For


instance, the chief executive of Nissan was given assurances about


future trade arrangements with Europe but now says they will have


to re-evaluate the situation about their investments in Britain. The


Prime Minister, Mr Speaker, is threatening the EU that unless they


give in to her demands, she will turn Britain into a bargain basement


stacks save and off the coast of Europe. -- bargain basement tax


haven. We on this side of the House are very well aware of the


consequences that would have, the damage it would do two jobs and


living standards and our public services. Is she now going to rule


out the bargain basement thread that was in his speech at Lancaster


House? Prime Minister! I expect us to get a good deal in trading


relationships with the European Union, but I am clear we will not


sign up to a bad deal for the United Kingdom, and as to the threats that


the right parable gentleman claims about what might happen, and he


often talks about this, he uses those phrases, talking about


workers' rights, perhaps he should listen to his former colleague, the


Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, who has today said, to give credit to the


Government, I don't think they want to weaken workers' rights, and he


goes on to say, I have Cena evidence from the conversations I have had


with senior members of the government that that is their


aspiration or their intention or something they want to do. -- I have


seen no evidence. As usual with Labour, the right hand is not


talking to the far left! Jeremy Corbyn! Mr Speaker... Mr Speaker,


the... The evidence of what the Tory party and this government really


thinks about workers' rights was there for all to see yesterday. A


private member's bill under the ten minute rule by a Tory MP to tear up


parts of the international labour organisation Convention, talking


down my friend the member for Grimsby's built to protect European


workers' rights that have been attained in this country. That is


the real agenda of the Tory party! Mr Speaker, what the Prime Minister


is doing is petted -- petulantly aiming threats about a bargain


basement Britain, is a priority the struggling NHS, those denied social


care, children having funding cut, or once again be the cuts in big


business taxation to make the rich even better off? Prime Minister! I


would simply remind the right honourable gentleman on the issue of


workers' rights that I have been very clear that this government will


protect workers' rights, indeed we have a review of modern employment


law to ensure that legislation is keeping up with the modern labour


market. One of the objectives I set out in my plan for our negotiating


objectives was to protect workers' rights, but he talks about threats


to public services. I will tell him what the threat to public services


would be, a Labour government borrowing 500 million extra! That


would destroy our economy and mean no funding for our public services.


Jeremy Corbyn! The threat to workers' rights, Mr Speaker, is


there every day. Six million and in less than the living wage, many


people, nearly a million, on zero hours contracts, no protection


offered by this government. They are offering, once again, the bargain


basement alternative. Will the Prime Minister, Mr Speaker, take this


opportunity today to congratulate the 100,000 people who marched in


Britain last weekend to highlight women's rights after President


Trump's inauguration and express their concerns about his misogyny?


Because many have concerns, Mr Speaker, that in her forthcoming


meeting with President Trump, she will be prepared to offer up. Five


is -- to offer up for sacrifice the opportunity for American companies


to take over part of our NHS or our public services. Will she assure the


House that in any trade deal none of those things will be offered up as a


bargaining chip? Prime Minister! Again, I would point out to the


honourable gentleman that this government introduced the national


living wage. This government has made changes to 0-hours contracts.


But on the issue of my visit to the United States of America, on the


issue of my visit, I am pleased that I am able to meet President Trump so


early in his administration. That is a sign of the strength of the


special relationship between the United Kingdom and the United States


of America, a special relationship on which he and I intend to build.


But can I also say to the Leader of the Opposition, I am not afraid to


speak frankly to a President of the United States. I am able to do that


because we have that special relationship. A special relationship


that he would never have with the United States. Jeremy Corbyn! Mr


Speaker, we would never allow Britain to be sold off on the cheap.


How confident is she of getting a good deal for global Britain from a


president who wants to put America first, by American and build a wall


between his country and Mexico? Mr Speaker, Article 50 wasn't about a


court judgments against this government, what is signified was


the bad judgment of this government, the bad judgment of prioritising


corporate tax cuts overinvestment in national health and social care. The


bad judgment of threatening European partners whilst offering a blank


cheque to President Trump! The bad judgment of wanting to turn Britain


into a bargain basement tax haven. So will she offers some clarity and


some certainty and withdraw the threats to destroy the social


structure of this country by turning us into the bargain basement that


she clearly threatens? We will be out around the world with


the EU Americans and other countries negotiating good trade deals for


this country to bring prosperity. The right honourable gentleman wants


to talk about Brexit. I have to say to him, he is the leader of the


party, he can not agree with his Shadow Chancellor about Brexit. The


Shadow Chancellor can't agree with the shadow Brexit secretary, the


shadow Brexit secretary disagrees with the Shadow Home Secretary and


the Shadow Home Secretary has to read up the leader and tell him to


change his mind. He talks about us standing up for Britain, they can't


speak for themselves, they'll never speak for Britain. SHOUTING AND


JEERS Thank you Mr Speaker, on 27th


December, another young woman lost her life driving through the West


Country on the A303. In the past decade more than 1,000 people have


been killed or injured on that road. For 40 years governments have


promised to dual the lethal parts of the road where they become two and


three with no central reservation. The queues on the road are also


legendary. I know the Government is comuted to an upgrade but can the


Prime Minister assure us that the proposed tunnel at Stonehenge will


not hold up essential work elsewhere and we'll soon see cones on the road


and spades in the ground? Well my honourable friend raises an


important issue. He is absolutely right to do that. I can assure him


we are working generally to improve the safety of our roads. He refers


specifically to the issue of the A303 and the tragic incident that


happened on 27th December. We've committed to creating a dual


carriageway on the A303 from the M3 to M5. I understand highways England


have launched a a consultation into the route under Stonehenge and my


honourable friend will want to look closely at this issue. This is all


part of our ?2 billion investment in road improvement that will improve


connections in the south-west but I can assure him that we have road


safety at the forefront of our mind. I begin by wishing everybody a very


happy Burns Day and of course extending congratulations to the


Scotsman newspaper which is celebrating its by centenary today.


Yesterday ... To Brexit. So, in the spirit of progress for Parliament,


in advance of meeting President Trump, will the Prime Minister tell


Parliament what she wants to achieve in a UK-US trade deal? Can I join


the right honourable gentleman in his good wishes for a happy Burn's


Day to everybody and also in recognising the by centenary of the


Scotsman. I'm sure everybody in the house would join me in that. What we


want to achieve in terms of our arrangements with the United States?


It is very simple. We want to achieve an arrangement that ensures


the interests of the United Kingdom are put first and that is what I


will be doing, and we see a trade arrangement, as we will be looking


for, from other parts of the world, to bring prosperity and growth to


the UK and my aim for this Government is to ensure that economy


works for everybody in every part of the UK. ! The European Union, which


we are still part of, has amongst the highest food safety standards


anywhere in the world. And we are proud on our continent to have


public national health systems. The United States, on the other hand, is


keen to have health systems which are fully open to private


competition. They want to export genetically modified organisms, beef


raised with growth hormones and chicken meat washed with chlorinated


water. Will the Prime Minister tell President Trump that she is not


prepared to lower our food and safety standards, or to open health


systems for privatisation, or does she believe that this is the price


worth paying for a UK-US trade deal? We will be looking for a UK-US trade


deal Thame proves trade between our two countries that will bring


prosperity and growth to this country, that will ensure we can


bring jobs to this country as well. I can assure the right honourable


gentleman in doing, that we will put UK interests and UK values first.


Thank you, Mr Speaker, historic per capita spending in our region,


including Yorkshire, when compared to London is up to 40% lower for our


local authorities, up to 50% lower for our schools and up to 60% lower


for transport prospects. Does the Prime Minister agree that if we want


to build a country that works for everyone, we need a fair funding


deal that works for everyone? I see the issues my honourable friend has


raised. I can assure him our commitment in relation to the


northern parts of England, including Yorkshire, is absolutely clear. We


want business growth across the north. We are backing the northern


powerhouse to help the great cities and towns of the north pool their


strength and take on the world. Yorkshire LETs have received an


additional ?156 million in Government funding this week and we


are spending a record ?15 billion on transport across north. As a result


there are more people in Yorkshire in Humber this the work than


everybody before and employments rates are at a record high. Good


news for the region and for the economy as a whole The European


Medicines Agency provides a single drug licencing system for 500


million people and results in the UK having drugs licensed six to 127


months ahead of countries like Canada and Australia. Yesterday the


Health Secretary stated that the UK will not be in the EMA. Can the


Prime Minister confirm this and explain how she'll prevent delayed


drug access for UK patients? Well, there are a number of organisations


that we are part of as members of the European Union and as part of


the work that we are doing to look at the United Kingdom in the future


when we have left the European Union, we will look at the


arrangements we can put in place to relation to those issues. We want to


ensure that we continue to have, the pharmaceutical industry in this


country is a very important part ever of our economy as are the


ability of people to access these new drugs, I can assure the


honourable lady we are looking seriously at this and will ensure we


have the arrangements we need Too few British intren airs are


connecting with the capital they need to start and grow. As part of


her industrial sfreedge, which will be looking at access to capital,


will the Prime Minister order a view of the enterprise investment scheme


and the seed investment scheme in the hope they can be simplified,


helping to achieve the pools of buccaneering capital that British


industry needs? My honourable friend raises an important issue and he has


long been a champion of intren airships in this country. . I can


tell him we are committed to providing the best possible... There


is a panel that is looking at barriers that exist in long-term


investment and we are also increasing investment from venture


capital by the British business banks by ?4700 million and that will


un-- ?400 million which will unlock new finance. The Treasury will


publish a consultation in the spring looking at these issues I'm sure my


honourable friend willp wanted to sponchtsd four-and-a-half years ago


my constituents were on a family holiday on the Greek island of Zante


when their son Jamie was hit answer killed by a speeding motor bike. It


was his ninth birthday. The rider was convicted but has appealed


against his sentence and to date remains a free man. Will the Prime


Minister agree to meet with Chris and Lidya to discuss how they can


finally secure justice for Jamie? Can I say to the honourable lady I'm


very happy to look at this case. I mean it is a tragic case she has


described and our thoughts must be with Chris and Lidya at the terrible


loss that they have experienced. To the issues of what is happening in


terms of the Greek Criminal Justice System, of course that is a matter


for the Greek authorities. But we will, I will look seriously at this


case and see if there is anything that the Foreign Office can do in


relation to this. President Trump has repeatedly said


that he will bring back torture as an instrument of policy. When she


sees him on Friday, will the Prime Minister make clear that in no


circumstances will she permit Britain to be dragged into


facilitating that torture, as we were after September 11th? I can


assure my honourable friend that we have a very clear position on


torture. We do not sanction torture. We do not get involved with that and


that will continue to be our position.


Thank you Mr Speaker. 70% of my constituents voted Remain. 15% are


citizens of other EU countries and almost all don't trust her


Government to negotiate a deal that secures the future prosperity of


London and the UK. Will she give this House a veto on the deal she


does, or will she put that deal back to a referendum of the British


people? I say to the honourable gentleman, people voted differently


across the country. Parts voted to Remain and parts voted to Leave.


What we now do is unite behind the result of the vote that took place.


We come together as a country, we go out there, we make a success of this


and we ensure that we build that truly global Britain that will bring


jobs to his constituency and his constituents. Mr Speaker, this week


Milton Keynes celebrates its 50th birthday. We have been the most


successful of new cities and have one of the highest rates of economic


growth. Will the Prime Minister agree that Milton Keynes has a great


future and will be central to delivering this Government's


ambitious plans? Well, can I join my honourable friend, can I join my


honourable friend in marking Milton Keynes's 50th birthday and also I


understand he has secured a Westminster Hall debate. I


congratulate him on having done that. I think Milton Keynes is a


great example of what you can achieve with a clear plan and with


strong, local leader sh. We are providing, as he knows, additional


funding for the East-West rail prospect ject. I know he supported


that by chairing the APGG as well as a Oxfordshire express road emschoo.


We'll see a country that works for everyone. Milton Keynes has had not


just a great 50 years but I'm sure a great future as well. Last week a


freight train arrived at barking from China using the Chunnel and


demonstrating the massive protension of rail treat, but containtal rail


wagons and lorries on trains cannot be accommodated on Britain's railway


network. Would the Prime Minister consider giving positive support to


the GB gateway scheme which could link all the nations and regions of


Britain both to each other and to Europe beyond and would take 5


million lorry journeys off Britain's roads per year? The honourable


gentleman has raised an issue, a different gauge on the railways here


and on the continpent which has been an issue for some considerable time.


We want to encourage freight on rails. We have been encouraging that


and we'll continue to do so. Thank you, very much, Mr Speaker.


The ministry of Cake in my constituency, a ?30 million turnover


company has recently been bought by a French company. They trade across


Europe and into China. Does this not demonstrate, Prime Minister and


would you agree with me that it demonstrates the confidence in our


economy as a European company has bought in? It demonstrates that we


can unlock global trade and it demonstrates that the south-west is


a terrific place to do business? I absolutely agree with high


honourable friend. I think the investment that she has referred to


of the French company into a company in her constituency shows the


confidence that people have in our economy for the future T shows the


fundamental strengths of our economy. -- it shows. And it also


shows that we can unlock global trade and of course the south-west


is a very good place to do business. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Robert Burns


said whatever damages society or any least part of it, that is my measure


of inequity. Would the Prime Minister agree that that applies to


the tax system found to be illegal by British courts under which 10,000


asylum seekers were denied a fair trial and some probably unlegally


deported to death and torture? I say to the honourable gentleman the


issue of the detained fast track system in the asylum system I looked


at when I was Home Secretary and we looked at the a number of changes on


how we operate it but it was built on a strong principle - which is if


there is somebody whose case for asylum is such that they are almost


certain to be refused that asylum, then we want to be ensure they can


be removed from the country as quickly as possible, hence the


detained fast track. I would like to ask my friend the


Prime Minister if she would insist in trying to get an enterprise zone


in my constituency as part of the industrial strategy. It turns out


that the Labour Council and Labour county council, who are talking


about an enterprise zonesque project in the area, have not applied for


any funding whatsoever. Would my right honourable friend assist me in


this endeavour? Well, can I say to my honourable friend I know what a


champion for his constituency it is. And I'm sure that the Chancellor and


the Business Secretary will look at the issue that he has raised. I also


say how sad it is that Labour councils are not willing to put


forward proposals to increase the prosperity and economic growth in


their area. Closed question. Number 11. I will


meet the First Minister and leaders of the devolved administrations at


the joint ministerial committee on Monday, but we regularly engage with


the Scottish Government on a number of issues. When she meets with the


First Minister, will she confirm whether she supports the principle


of the Scotland Act that whatever is not reserved is devolved and will


she be able to tell what powers will come to the Scottish Parliament in


the event of Brexit? Can she confirm the Great Repeal Bill will not be


the great power grab? I have been very clear, echoed yesterday by the


Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, that no powers that


are currently devolved will be taken back to the UK Government. What we


will be looking at, and what we will be discussing with the devolved


administrations, is how we deal with powers which are currently in


Brussels when they come back to the United Kingdom, and what we want to


ensure, we want to ensure those powers are dealt with so we can


maintain the important single market of the United Kingdom. Thank you, Mr


Speaker. It is currently hand offence to assault a police officer,


an immigration officer way prison officer, but it is not a specific


offence to assault an NHS worker, doctor, nurse or paramedic. Does the


Prime Minister agree with me that we should consider extending a specific


offence to these people to make it absolutely clear that the public


will not tolerate violence towards our hard-working members of the NHS?


My honourable friend raises an important point, we condemn assaults


on anybody and any violence that takes place, but the Secretary of


State for Health has heard the KC has put and will be happy to look at


that issue. -- has heard the case that he has put. Will be Duke of


Westminster still received ?407,000 year, will Duke of Northumberland


still receive ?475,000 a year, and will the Earl of either still


receive ?915,000 a year from the British taxpayer? The honourable


gentleman seems to know a lot about these ducal matters, I will be


fascinated by the reply! One of the tasks that we will have, and the


honourable gentleman is right, when we leave the European Union, is to


decide what support is provided to agriculture as we are outside of the


Common Agricultural Policy. We are taking the interest of all parts of


the UK into account when we look into what the system should do in


the future. A Hampshire Nice, Sir Gerald Howarth! Last weekend, the


Secretary of State for Defence made a very welcome visit to Ukraine,


where he said that freedom and democracy are not tradable


commodities. As we mark the 25th anniversary of relations between our


two partners, could I invite my right honourable friend to declare


the support of the UK for the maintenance of an independent


sovereign state in Ukraine, which has been subjected to the most


outrageous annexation of part of its providence by Russia? I am very


happy to join my honourable friend in confirming our commitment to the


independent sovereign state of Ukraine. The Foreign Secretary has


been doing a lot of work with other Foreign Ministers on this particular


issue, we provide significant support to Ukraine, and I hope soon


to be up to meet the president and talk about the support we provide.


Pat McFadden. Last week the Prime Minister said that Parliament would


get a vote on the final deal between the UK and the European Union. Kuqi


set out what would happen if Parliament said no to the terms of


that deal? -- could she set out. Would she negotiate an alternative


deal, or would no deal option be falling back on WTO rules, which


mean 10% tariffs on cars, 20% on food and trick, and a host of other


barriers to trade, investment and prosperity in the UK? Prime


Minister. As I also said in my speech, I expect we will be but to


negotiate a good deal in terms of trade with the European Union,


because it would be in our interests and those of the European Union as


well. There will be a vote on the deal for this Parliament, but then,


if this Parliament is not willing to accept a deal that has been decided


and agreed by the United Kingdom Government with the European Union,


I have said that if there is no deal, we will have to fall back on


other arrangements. Mr Speaker, a great pleasure to welcome my


honourable friend the Prime Minister and her Cabinet to Khazri earlier


this week, and I welcome the Government industrial strategy to


bring high skill, high wage jobs to close the North-South divide, and


the message is that Britain is open for business. I and the whole


Cabinet were very pleased to be able to visit, pleased to be able to sit


down and meet with small businesses on that particular site to hear the


support they have for what the Government is doing in the


industrial strategy. Britain is open for business, we will be trading


around the world, a global leader in free trade, bringing jobs, economic


growth and prosperity to every part of this country. Thank you, Mr


Speaker. We are now aware of the hundreds of thousands of women who


marched in behalf of women's rights last weekend. In this House, we have


been lobbied by members of the women against state pension inequality,


and many MPs have lodged petitions asking the Government to act. Can


the Prime Minister tell us how many MPs have lodged such petitions? I


have to say to the honourable gentleman that I think the number of


petitions presented in this Parliament is a matter for the


authorities, but the Government has already taken action in relation to


the issue of women's pensions to reduce the changes that will be


experienced by women and putting extra money into that. Following her


excellent EU speech last week, will the Prime Minister consider


unilaterally guaranteeing the rights of EU citizens living and working in


the UK? This isn't just the decent thing to do, but by taking the moral


high ground, it will be a source of strength going forward in the


negotiations, and we can always return to the issue of


non-reciprocation and necessary later in those negotiations. I


recognise the concern that my honourable friend has raised in


relation to this issue, but my position remains the same as it


always has been. I expect and intend and want to be able to guarantee the


rights of EU citizens living in the United Kingdom, but as the British


by Minister it is only right that I should give consideration to the


rights of UK citizens living in the remaining 27 member states of the


EU, and that is why I wanted that reciprocal arrangement. As I said


last week, Ira Main open to this being an issue we negotiate at a


very early stage. -- I remain open. A number of other European bodies


want that, and I'm hoping we will be up to do it at an early stage. Dr


Lisa Cameron. Thank you, Mr Speaker. As chair of the all-party


Parliamentary group for disability, we recently compiled an important


report into the Government's pledge to halve the employment gap.


Research shows this pledge will not be met for 50 years. To date, no


minister has met with the group to discuss the report. Will the Prime


Minister place people with disability at the heart of policy


and ensure that her ministers engage with our recommendations? The Prime


Minister. The honourable lady raises an important issue about disabled


people in the workplace. It is one we are aware of, and as we see the


number of people in unemployed and going down, it does change the


ratios to select ten. The Secretary of State is looking at how we can


ensure that we are seeing more disabled people in the workplace,


and I am sure he will have seen that request. Can I welcome the Prime


Minister meeting with the president of Turkey on Saturday, when we can


show our solidarity in the fight against terrorism, deepen our


trading relationship, and the Prime Minister also seek support for a


united and independent Cyprus free from Turkish troops? I thank my


honourable friend for raising the important issues that I will be


discussing with President Erdogan, and with the Prime Minister of


Turkey when I meet them on Saturday. He raises the issue of Cyprus. I am


hopeful that the talks will be able to continue to come to a solution,


closer to a solution than we have been before. I have already spoken


to the Prime Minister and the President about the need to ensure


that we are creative in thinking and finding a solution for this, and I


had a further telephone call over the weekend about this very issue.


We stand ready, as a guarantor, to play our part in making sure we see


a successful conclusion of these talks, and see the reunification of


Cyprus, which people have been working for for some time. Thank


you, Mr Speaker. I joined the Prime Minister in wishing a speedy


recovery to the police officer who was shot and injured in my


constituency in north Belfast on Sunday night. Thankfully, he was not


killed, but that was not the intention of the terrorists, of


course. It is very clear, Mr Speaker, that the political


instability brought about by Sinn Fein's collapse of the assembly is


in no-one's interest, and it is also clear that their intention is to


rewrite the past. Will she make it very clear that the legal


persecution of police officers and soldiers who did so much to bring


peace to Northern Ireland will not be allowed to continue? I say to the


right honourable gentleman that, as he indicates, the political


stability in Northern Ireland has been hard earned over some


considerable time, and none of us want to see and thrown away. He


raises the issue of the current situation, where a number of


investigations by the PSNI into former soldiers and their activities


in Northern Ireland, and I think it is right that we recognise that the


majority of people who lost their lives did so as a result of


terrorist activity, and it is important that the terrorist


activity is looked into. That is why one of the issues that my right


honourable friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland is


looking at is the legacy question and how that can take place in


future. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Social care provided by Labour led


council in my area is failing miserably. Serious errors in process


have led to, quite frankly, shameful consequences for some of my most


vulnerable constituents. It is clearly not about funding, as they


said on reserves of about ?233 million. Will my right honourable


friend instigate an urgent review of social care practice at the county


council, because the people of Derbyshire deserve better? Prime


Minister. My honourable friend has made an important point in relation


to this issue, which is that successful social care is not wholly


about funding, but the practice on the ground, and that is why we are


very clear that it is important to see that integration between social


and health care at a local level, and local authorities should be


playing their part in delivering that. And this is any stew that we


need to see addressed for the longer term as well. -- an issue. Frankly,


it has been ducked by governments for too long in this country, and


that is why we are determined to bring forward a sustainable


programme in the future. Ed Miliband. It brings... The right


honourable gentleman never knew he was quite that popular! Ed Miliband!


I was going to say, Mr Speaker, it brings back memories, actually! Can


I say to the Prime Minister, as the first foreign leader to meet


President Trump, she carries a huge responsibility on behalf not just of


this country but the whole international community in the town


that she sets? Can I ask her to reassure us that she will say to the


President that he must abide by and not withdraw from the Paris climate


change treaty, and in case it is helpful, can she offer the services


of UK scientists to convince the president that climate change is not


a hoax invented by the Chinese? Prime Minister! Well, I recognise


the role the right honourable gentleman has played in looking at


this issue of climate change, and I hope he recognises the commitment


this government has shown to be a stew of climate change with the


legislation we have put through, and the changes that we have brought


about in terms of the energy sector and users of different forms of


energy. The Obama administration obviously signed up to the Paris


climate change agreement, we have now done that, I would hope that all


parties would continue to ensure that the climate change agreement is


put into practice. Order... Well, 45 minutes after it started,


it has come to an end. Looks like the speaker has now decided it


should be 45 instead of 30. It seems a standed time. The Prime Minister


took kavend planted question from a Tory backbencher, to announce there


will be a white paper on the Government's Brexit position. It


seems a standard time. -- the Prime Minister took a planted


question. This probably took some of the wind


out of the sails of Jeremy Corbyn. I suspect he was about to ask about


that. He changed tact, I think and started to talk about - would we be


prepared to pay to secure tariff-free access to the European


single market. He went on to Nissan, was it reevaluating its investments


in Britain and thenned about the bargain basement Britain which has


become a favourite phrase of Labour out of Mr Corbyn. The Prime Minister


quoted Sadiq Khan, the Labour Mayor of London saying he didn't think the


Government was going tonne undermine workers' rights which you will have


heard in this programme first but threw go, it was repeated at Prime


Minister's Questions. And now, Mr Corbyn went on to talk about the


question of workers' rights, even though he had to deal with a


surprised white paper, he had to deal with the unhelpful quote of the


Labour Mayor of London on that. While we were doing PMQs, the Labour


Party's been in touch to say that I said earlier that the one statement


was withdrawn yesterday and replaced with another. Now, this is what


actually happened. You can decide. At 9.43 a statement was issued by Mr


Corbyn's office, it included "Labour will seek to build in the principles


of full tariff-free access to the single market, and maintenance of


workers' rights and social and environmental protections." Mr


Corbyn himself, through his office at 10.16, half an hour later, then


made, what was in effect an identical statement, but did not


include these words about full tariff-free access on that.


Now, whether the first statement was withdrawn or simply superceded by


the second statement, I'll leave you to make up your mind but we're happy


to clarify that's what happened. What did they make of PMQs? The


guard good by the way has said this was the Prime Minister's best PMGs


since she became Prime Minister. Well, at the risk of repetition of


some of what you said, there was an echo of much of your summary in the


e-mails that came N Martin says "It was as if the Daily Politics had a


crystal ball PMQs today saw the confirmation that we will have a cut


and Pease white paper." One prediction we got right. Ian says,


"The worst session of PMQ that is Jeremy Corbyn has had. His attack


was blunted by a Tory planted question on the white paper and


destroyed completely when Mrs May used Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor's


quote to shoot down his claims." Andrew says, "Mrs May declaring a


white paper on Brexit #150e78d to flummox Jeremy Corbyn and he didn't


seem to be able to respond, he had a scatter gun approach on various


subjects with no question hitting home. -- seemed to flummox Jeremy


Corbyn. They didn't feel he did W So, a


white Paper? And a climb-down. Yesterday in the House, David Davis


said it would be too difficult to do it in the time scale. Why a


climb-down? Two parts - it is clever politically it takes one one of the


likely amendments to the bill, before the bill is out, so avoids a


potential defeat next week. Second of all, I just wonder if, having


seen to be pretty consistently sort of taking more of the side of the


Brexiteers in the Tory Party, it was felt perhaps it was time to give


some kind of gesture to those... To the others. The Brexiteers have run


most of the argument in the run-up to Mrs May's speech? And they were


cock ahoop after Mrs May's speech. No question about that. But given


last night they were told there would be no white paper. The sense


from number ten, it was up their sleeves but not really to reveal it


this is last-minute change of heart. And one senior Tory said to mee,


welcome to the next two years, a very fluid process. So you knew the


change was coming, why did the Government change its mind on a


white paper? As I said. Very clear. We have been open about it. This was


an issue process, in Westminster people get excited about but as I


said earlier on, generally the viewers people out there want to see


us getting on with delivering the plan the Prime Minister outlined.


Why are you changing your mind? We didn't. You z yesterday David Davis


said it would be too difficult to do it in the time. There will be a


continued debate, the Government will look at this to make sure


everybody... This is part of that process. I understand all that, but


let me bring you back to the question for one last forlorn


attempt. Yesterday David Davis told the House it would be too difficult


to produce a white paper, 24 hours later, less than, the Prime Minister


says there is going to be a white paper. What changed? Well, I think


it is very, very simple in the fact that David Davis' team, the Brexit


department and the Prime Minister, listening to people in the House of


Commons, we should welcome the fact that the Government is listening to


people and responding to that but the core point is this is a process


we in Westminster get excited about. I understand that. But what people


are interested in is delivering on Brexit and the plan the Prime


Minister outlined at Lancaster House. So David Davis came away from


the Commons yesterday and thought - oh, these were really strong


arguments for a white paper. When I said there was no time for a white


paper, that was really a stupid thing to say, let's have a white


paper, that's what you are telling me? What the Prime Minister has


outlined is we will publish a white paper. I got that. I'm trying to


find out yu changed your mind. It is about delivering the right thing for


the British people and doing in a way they can understand. I'm puzzled


by Jeremy Corbyn's question to the Prime Minister about would she be


prepared to pay to secure tariff-free access. Because the


Prime Minister has said we won't be a member of the single market any


more. A member. But she wants to do the best-possible free trade deal.


But free trade deals do not avoid, involve paying for access. So why


does he ask that question? Well, it is interesting because in response


to a question in Brexit Questions a few weeks ago, David Davis said that


the Government were considering that. So... No he didn't talk about


that to secure access. He talked about there would be certain


programmes that "We may wish to continue with", I think Arasmus may


have been one. You mentioned other ones where you do have to pay a


membership fee to get in, that's different to paying a generalised


fee for access to the single market. So I say again, free trade deals and


I have seen quite a few, the most recent one with Canada and the EU,


free trade deals, by definition, do not involve paying for access to


another market. Well, I #1257bd to be corrected, Andrew, I think that


was what David Davis said a few weeks ago. But let me answer the


question... Maybe he changed his mind. Let me answer the question he


was struggling with. He changed his mind. He changed his mind a lot. The


question Brandon was strug was clear, Theresa May recognised she


was facing defeat, after yesterday, on Labour's first amendment. You


asked me about what was bringing grit. Theresa May didn't want to


concede a vote, she has been forced. She didn't want to publish a white


paper, she has been forced much this is the grit Labour is bringing to


the process by raising these issues. Finally, Laura, I would suggest she


wasn't frightened of losing if she published a white paper but this


makes it easier for her. No question. This was one of the


questions where people on all parties were able to gather around.


With this off the Type table it is hard to see what they can come up


with next. In the big picture, what we have seen in the last couple of


weeks, is a sense that people on the Remain side of the argument are


really actually struggling to come up with concrete, convincing ways


that they can actually try to nail the Government down and I think that


certainly has been a feature. It is one of the interesting things,


before Christmas, after the High Court decision, the Government was


on the backfoo. Theresa May is on front foot this time. We should keep


a score card of the changes. I'll have to go on, we need it squeeze


another item in. Grammar schools in England


are warning that they may ask parents for hundreds of pounds


a year to cope with funding cuts. The Grammar School Heads'


Association says that most money under the new national funding


formula, which is due to be rolled out for schools in England


later in this Parliament. Several Conservative MPs, whose


constituencies will lose out under the plans, are unhappy and Labour


are holding an Opposition Day Debate The Government announced


the new formula last month and the Schools' Minister,


Nick Gibb, appeared on this programme to explain


the thinking behind it. What this has done -


this national funding formula - is taken a series of principles


that we consulted on for several widespread support from the people


we approached and asked what their views were,


because it is right to reflect the funding of schools based


on deprivation, based on prior learning, based on how many


children who speak English All those are key factors on how


schools are now funded. It is much fairer and no other


Government has grasped It is a very controversial


thing to do. We decided we would do it,


notwithstanding the other Joining me now is Graham Brady,


Chairman of the Conservative 1922 Committee, and a vocal supporter


of grammar schools. One of the schools, at trip ham in


your constituency, is one of those asking for parental contributions on


a voluntary basis. -- Altrchinham. It is in an of a


fluent area. Isn't it rich for grammar schools to be pleading


poverty? Well it isn't'ed have goo grammar school, it is my old school


and I'm closely associated with it, still. This goes much, much wider


than just grammar schools... Can we stick to grammar schools that's the


issue we are talking about. ! I want to talk to it. That's the issue, I


want to bring up that grammar school and my question. To put it in


context the whole of the borough of Trafford, one of the worst-funded


authorities for education in the country. One of the so-called F has


40 groups, every single secondary school in the borough would be worse


off under the draft funding formula. So whilst the principles that nick


Gibb set out are entirely welcome, the real purpose of doing this is to


raise the levels of funding in the lowest-funded areas. Those places


where, for historical reasons, there are anomalies in funding but the


problem is, this specific set of figures proposed don't work fairly,


don't raise those badly-funded schools out of the bottom levels of


funding. You set the context but you still haven't answered my question


about grammar schools. Is it a bit rich for grammar schools, in an


area, which is of a fluent, where they do have on average, fewer


pupils who are entitled to free school meals or who maybe speak


English as a second language or have special educational needs, that they


should plead poverty over comprehensive schools in areas like


Blackpool and Bolton, for example? This is why the context severing.


That's why I pointed out that it is not just a school like the grammar


school, it is like every school in Trafford. We have badly-funded


schools, whether grammar schools, high schools or comprehensive


schools in areas which historically have been underfunded which are


seeing their funding cut if this formula goes ahead. I don't think


this formula is going to go ahead in this form, because I think ministers


understand that there are difficulties in what has been


proposed and some of these anomalies are unsustainable. Let's ask Brandon


Lewis, do you think it'll be dropped because of opposition that there


just isn't enough money going into education Overall education is going


up, at a record level just over ?40 billion. Hang on, the whole school


system in England according to the National Audit Office, said they


were facing a real terms cut of ?300 million. So it is wrong. . It is at


record less. It is always at record levels. We put more, if you look at


2010. It is now over ?40 million. A real term ut cut. It has gone up.


But what Graham is saying the Government is doing a review to have


a fair funding formula in consultation and I know the


ministers will look at the feedback from that consultation, including


Members of Parliament and schools, all over the country, not just in


Cheshire. In ten seconds, Graham, Brady does


it reassure you? It is reassuring, grammar schools also suffer, they


have big sixth forms and they are the worst-funded part of a school,


so they are cross subsidising from the 11-16 area, so it is another


reason why it is a problem. There's just time to put you out


of your misery and give It was 1989. Press the red button,


please. Both of you. By partisan press there.


Consensus at last. P The answer was 1989. David Lamb.


Well done. The one o'clock news is starting


over on BBC One now. Jo and I will be here


at noon tomorrow with all the big political


stories of the day. I do enjoy doing this, it's


challenging brain surgery. You've got a very


fragile-looking aneurysm.


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