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Morning, folks, welcome to the Daily Politics.

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The Government lost its battle with the judges over Article 50,

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but it's confident it will win the war when it comes

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to Parliament kicking off the process of leaving the EU.

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The Government plans to rush a Bill through the Commons and the Lords

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of triggering Article 50 by the end of March.

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Labour has threatened to wage "hand-to-hand combat"

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to ensure proper scrutiny of the Brexit process.

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So will there be verbal fisticuffs at Prime Minister's Questions?

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Donald Trump will welcome Theresa May to the White House on Friday,

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the first foreign leader to meet the new President.

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So what are the chances of a new US-UK trade deal

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Some grammar schools in England say they could start

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asking parents for money to cope with cash shortfalls.

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But will they lose out under the Government's new funding formula?

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All that in the next hour and a half, and with us for the duration

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are Home Office Minister Brandon Lewis

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and the Shadow Brexit Minister, Paul Blomfield.

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Now, the Government says it's still on course

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of triggering Article 50 by the end of March.

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That would then kick off the formal two-year exit negotiation

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with the EU and, if all goes according to plan,

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would result in our departure in March 2019.

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Yesterday, the Supreme Court upheld a High Court judgment

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which said the Government could only trigger Article 50

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So what's the timetable between now and the triggering of Article 50?

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Tomorrow, the Government is expected to publish a short Bill mandating

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The hope for Theresa May is that she can pass

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the bill through the Commons in a couple of weeks.

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But opposition parties say they'll try to amend the legislation.

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And the bill will also need to pass the House of Lords,

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where the Government does not have a majority.

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The Labour Party is expected to set out four amendments to the bill,

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including one that would require the Government

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to produce a white paper, or formal policy document,

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That's set to be backed a number of Tory backbenchers

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who supported Remain in the referendum.

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And the Scottish National Party will table 50 amendments,

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to give the devolved administrations a bigger role in the Brexit process.

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So there will be a lot for the Prime Minister to mull over

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on her flight to Washington on Friday,

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world leaders to meet President Donald Trump.

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Discussions of a trade deal with the US will top the agenda,

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with Downing Street keen to capitalise

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on Britain's place at the "front of the queue".

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Back on home soil, Mrs May's self-imposed deadline

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to trigger Article 50 is the end of March.

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But can she get her Brexit bill through Parliament in time?

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And what will it look like when it becomes law?

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The Brexit Secretary, David Davis, has been speaking about the

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Government's next steps. Last year the British

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people made a decision The Government is going

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to deliver on that decision. Last week, the Prime Minister laid

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out a plan, answered every question that it's possible to answer,

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laid down by the Opposition, the Select Committee,

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seen as clear throughout the world and supported in many places,

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and we're going to deliver on that. The Article 50 ruling

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is not going to stop that. We're going to have legislation,

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very shortly, in the next few weeks, I'm joined now by the SNP's economy

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spokesman, Stewart Hosie. Welcome to the Daily Politics.

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Stewart Hosie, new figures show that Scottish trade with the rest of the

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UK continues to be with four times more than its exports to the EU, so

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these numbers just continue to underline why it is far more

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important for Scotland to remain part of the UK than the EU, don't

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they? Well, they certainly are bigger, no question about that, four

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times bigger, but the EU market is eight times bigger, and the growth

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in trade up until the figures today, I think in the seven years to 2014,

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from memory, was a 12% increase from Scotland to the rest of the UK, 20%

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increase to the EU, and 50% of the rest of the world, Jordan by EU

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agreements. Where is your evidence for that? We can publish those

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figures, I have been through this stuff, more than happy to do that.

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The whole point about it is there is no point looking at the static

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position. What we cannot do is surrender the growth we are seeing

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in the EU, and the growth we are seeing globally, Drouin by EU trade

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agreements. So it is vital, among other things, that we have trade

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agreements in place to replace the ones we are going to lose. I have

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got the Scottish Government export figures here, they have been done

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since 2002. Scottish exports to the European Union in 2002 were just

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over 10 billion. In 2014-15, they were just over 10 billion, they

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haven't moved in ten years. These are your government's figures. I

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have published the figures... The figures I have given you show the

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increase in trade to the EU and the increase in trade to the rest of the

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world, happily publish those figures. The increase in trade to

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the rest of the UK, under 30 billion in 2002, almost 50,000,000,020 14.

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That is where the rises. Scottish Government export statistics

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published by your government. I will publish the figures which I have

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given you today, I am happy to do that, but the point I am making is a

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substantial point, that we cannot surrender trade growth and access to

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EU and global markets by abandoning the EU trade treaties, unless and

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until other alternatives are put in place, and we don't revert

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immediately to the worst-case scenario of the tariff every WTO

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rules. But let's look at those figures in detail, in terms of the

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amount of trade, the latest export statistics, Scottish data shows the

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country sold ?49.8 billion to the rest of the UK in 2015. That is 2.1

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billion more than the previous year, it is increasing. Exports to the EU

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rose by ?520 million to a total of just ?12.3 billion. That is ?50

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billion versus 12.3 billion, so which market is more important? On

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the static figures, there is no disputing that the UK market is...

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By a massive margin! As is Scotland to the rest of the UK, the rest of

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the UK's second largest export market. Your colleagues said it was

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the first, about Scotland being England's biggest export

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destination, which was not true. That was in the context of the EU,

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it is the biggest market in the EU for exports. She didn't say that,

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she said the biggest export destination, and she was talking

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about goods and services, as compared to HMRC statistics, much

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higher to the USA. And indeed I have just said that, the whole debate was

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about the EU. Excuse me, I did that interview - she said quite plainly

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that Scotland was England's biggest export market. It wasn't just about

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the EU, and Alex Salmond said on Radio 4, Scotland is England's

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biggest export market. It is not true. The numbers are very clear.

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Yeah, it is not true. The US is the UK's largest export market, Scotland

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is the second. Given we are focused on the EU and Brexit, the argument

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that Scotland is the UK's largest export market in the EU is

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absolutely correct, but the key thing, we are about to abandon trade

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treaties that will begin trade growth around the world and revert

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to tariff heavy and damaging WTO rules. That is where we need to be

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having the focus. You are worried about tariffs being placed on goods,

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it will affect growth, and any free trade deal that might be done, so

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you are putting down 50 amendments on the Article 50 bill. Now, you

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have got 54 MPs, almost one third MP, is there any chance he will win

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enough support for any of those amendments? Well, our number one is

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a white paper. I think there is huge support for that. Secondly, this

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full is back to yesterday's ruling, we think the joint Ministerial

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Council should take a unanimous view so that any of the devolved nations

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are not railroaded. And then when we come to specific things, like

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ensuring academic funding of 2020, like ensuring trade arrangements are

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put in place, financial passporting for our financial services industry,

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one would imagine there would be substantial support for the

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certainty we currently do not have. If you don't get what you are

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looking for, what you feel you should be part of those discussions,

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when will you go for an independence referendum? We are not in a position

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of calling a referendum today. No, but by the end of March Article 50

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will have been triggered. We are in a position right now, the Scottish

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Government, trying to persuade the UK Government to take the least

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worst option, to mitigate some of the damage Brexit will cause. That

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is where we are at the moment, so we need to wait and see what the joint

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ministerial councils say formally about the Scottish Government

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submission, which is a very detailed paper indeed, far more detailed than

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the 12 point presentation the Prime Minister gave at Lancaster House.

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Stewart Hosie, thank you. Well, Labour says it doesn't trust

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the Government to negotiate on behalf of the country

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without them "keeping an eye on it". The Shadow Foreign Secretary even

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threatened to get physical in order to ensure proper scrutiny

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of the Brexit process. We think she wasn't

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being entirely literal, We do not trust them to go off

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on their own and negotiate on our behalf, in Europe,

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without us keeping an eye on them. That's why, today,

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what we were saying, was that Article 50,

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if it is going to be triggered, we will not get in the way of it

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but we will try and amend the legislation in order to ensure

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that they keep coming back, and if necessary there will be

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hand-to-hand combat on this. We need to make sure we get the best

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deal on behalf of the whole country. She can't say she acts on behalf

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of the whole country without actually negotiating

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with Parliament, Paul Blomfield, what did she mean by

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hand-to-hand combat? Well, I think you are right, we probably don't

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mean that literally! I am glad you clarify that! I am sure you are

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reassured as well! I think the point is we don't have confidence in the

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Government going away with no accountability to negotiate what is

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the most important decision this country has faced in our lifetime,

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and it is not just Labour, it was clear across the House and among

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businessmen I have been talking to. When the negotiations are taking

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place, do you expect ministers to come back to Parliament and say,

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well, we have negotiated this bit, can we have your approval? Do you

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expect them to give a tale to account for Parliamentary scrutiny

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while the talks are going on? -- a failed account. Not in that sense,

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but there needs to be scrutiny, there needs to be proper

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Parliamentary... So tell me how you would do it. The first thing is we

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would not have at any explanation if it had not been for Labour forcing

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that through on the floor of the House of Commons. We want a white

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paper or policy document. What do you want to do when the negotiations

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start? What you see at the role of Parliament then? I am confused. We

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expect the Government to report back regularly. But I just said that and

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you said no. What you said, with respect, Andrew, was in the gritty

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detail of day-to-day discussions. Those negotiating on behalf of the

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European Union will be reporting back regularly to the European

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Parliament. The British Parliament deserves no less. Will you publish a

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white paper? The government has been quite open about how we move

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forward, the focus is around looking at what people say, the Prime

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Minister outlined a plan, delivering on what the British people voted.

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Let me repeat the question, will you publish a white paper? In terms of a

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white paper, it is something the Government has got to be looking at,

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but it comes down to a process discussion. What the public are

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looking for is the Government to deliver what the public voted for,

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the Prime Minister has outlined a clear plan, we have to get on with

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delivering Brexit for the British people. So a white paper is a

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possibility, is that right? The Government has been clear about

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setting up the plans. And you want a white paper? If you don't get one,

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do you still vote for Article 50? We are going to be tabling a number of

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amendments, one on a white paper or policy document, which I think there

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is wide support for. We want to hold the Prime Minister to the

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negotiating objectives in terms of protecting the rights we have a

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cumulated over 43 years. One will be on meaningful votes at the end of

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the process, and that is what I mean when I say we want to have a grip on

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what is going on. But if you don't get your amendments or a white

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paper, do you still vote for Article 50? Article 50 triggers the process.

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I know what it does, are you going to vote for it or not. I was going

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to explain my vote in that context, because we respect the outcome of

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the referendum, we lost, so we will vote to trigger the process to start

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negotiations. Even if you don't get a white paper? We think we will get

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a white paper, because there is huge support for it on both sides of the

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house. It's hard to know what your party's

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position is. Yesterday Jeremy Corbyn called for a press reless of

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tariff-free access to the single market. 30 minutes later it was

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retracted, why? I cannot explain that. Aren't you the Brexit... I

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can't explain the details of the operation of our press team. But we

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have been clear at all stages and Emily was last night. This was

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Jeremy Corbyn's office. He said Labour would table an amendment to

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guarantee "Full tariff-free access across the single market." Which by

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the way is the Government's aim as well. If they do it is another

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matter. Yet, 30 minutes after the press release was issued, that

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sentence was removed, why? Let me be clear, we are in free of tar you

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have-free impediment free access to the single market. Why remove it? I

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cannot explain the actions of the press office but let's be clear, we

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want tariff-free access to the single market. We want to tie

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Theresa May down to that because that's what she claims she wants,

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too. Brendan what is the argument against, when the deal is done, when

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we see the terms of which we are leaving the European Union, the

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best, your Government has been able to get after the 20-year process and

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we see what the land lies as we leave the EU, what kind of deal it

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will be. What is the argument for not putting that to a referendum?

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Well the British people voted in a referendum to leave the European

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Union. They didn't know the terms. We were very clear in the referendum

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what it meant, it meant leaving the European Union. Anything that starts

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looking like or politicians doing things that looks like it is delay,

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the British people will be angry about. The British people voted in

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principle to leave the EU. They also had broad outlines of what that

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would mean, they felt it would mean controlling borders and so on. But

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you know that the deal itself will be much more complicated and you may

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not get all you want. Why can't we have another vote on that? What we

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have said and what the Prime Minister has outlined and David

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Davis, the Secretary of State has outlined is Parliament through the

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process, the opposite of what Paul outlined, will have a change to

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debate. I opened the debant we dated Brexit and securing and policing

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last week, there will be more debates like that. It gives a chance

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for Parliament to feed in, what it thinks about the issues. At the end

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of the process when we know what the deal is, Parliament,

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democratically-elected MPs will have a vote on that deal. But you can't

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say yet whether you would vote for the deal or not because you don't

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know the deal. So, that's still up for grabs, I assume. You need to

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see... The votes at the end of the process are up for grabs. What isn't

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up for grabs is voting to trigger the process. That's what the

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referendum delieded. Brandon is misleading on some of the debates

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we've had so far. The Government determined the topics of the debate.

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We haven't talked about the single market or customs union or the key

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issues facing the economy and jobs in this country. But there are more

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debates to come. So these things will be covered. Equally, of course,

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the Labour Party have opposition day debates, they could have brought

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them in those. We have had debates about important things. Last week we

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had a debate about what breaks it can mean and what our framework and

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desires are for security, law enforcement and criminal justice,

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just last week. All right. Would you support a referendum on the deal? We

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are not calling for a referendum. Why not? Because the British people

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have cast their verdict and to call their judgment into account at this

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stage would be clearly a wrong thing to do. So what we are calling for is

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for the Government to publish their plans, clearly and there is stuff

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about Theresa May having done so in her speech. She has sown the seeds

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of confusion on issues like the customs union, for example. We want

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clarity and accountability throughout. OK, we'll leave it

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there. So once Theresa May has got PMQs

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out of the way, the next big thing in her

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diary comes on Friday. Yes, that meeting with

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President Trump at the White House. Theresa May will be

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the first foreign leader And no doubt the prospects

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of a trade deal between the two Our next biggest single trade

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partner outside the EU is the USA, would be a big plus for

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the Prime Minister. Well, the new administration has

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been making warm noises We're excited that Prime Minister

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May is coming on Friday. The degree to which,

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I don't know yet. I'm sure we'll have an opportunity

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to brief you out. I don't believe we have any plans

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right now for a joint press conference but that's

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something our team will be working out with Prime Minister May

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and we'll keep you updated on that. Sean Spicer there, the White House

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press spokesman. Brandon Lewis, a former chief White House trade

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negotiator has said a trade deal with the US could help Britain

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become the Singapore of the Western world is that what you are aiming

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for We want it aim to make sure the UK and Great Britain, we don't want

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to be mirror images, or variations of somebody else, the same with the

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European deal. But a deal that is right for our country. With the

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amount of trade we do with the United States, any further work we

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can do in an improved and new trade deal has to be good for both our

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countries and the UK economy. She said the challenge will be coming

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with up a model that will work with both the US and UK. If that means

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the UK becoming a bit like Singapore, as Philip Hammond

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certainly warned,p didn't use the word Singapore but said they could

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do things economically that could prepare the UK if they didn't get a

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free trade deal with the EU that they would like, is that something

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you would like to emulate, Singapore, a successful country,

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somewhere you would like to emulate? You are right. A successful country

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but I'm focussed on getting the right deal with the European Union,

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getting a deal that's good for us and doing a deal with the United

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States. Historically our economy and the United States' economy have

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worked well. So coming up with a trade deal that works, that is

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beneficial for both countries has to be a good thing and actually for the

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global economy. Do you agree Singapore is a success story? It has

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been a success story on their own terms but not the terms we want for

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our country. You are right to highlight the extraordinary threat

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that Philip Hammond and Theresa May made last week, about the sort of

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country they'll make us if they don't get their way with the

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European Union. That wasn't a threat to Europe or the rest of Europe, it

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was a threat to the British people. Did you see it as a threat? Does it

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mean slashing corporation tax further? I never prejudge what might

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come in future budgets and we can't prejudge what will come. It is about

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making sure we get a deal, a win-win, good for our country and

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good for partners in Europe? But would you be prepared to take those

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steps, would you see it as a win-win? That's something the

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Chancellor will have to lack at as we go through the process based on

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the decisions we are able to agree with the European Union. But

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decisions on a trade deal with the America, if we get that the Treasury

:22:42.:22:47.

and Government will look at what is right about this country. Always,

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our first duty is what is right for the UK. Are you excited about the

:22:51.:22:54.

prospect of Theresa May meeting Donald Trump? I have to say, I find

:22:55.:22:57.

it extraordinary that Brandon is leaving the door open for a bargain

:22:58.:23:02.

basement, low page, low packs poor public servant economy. Is that what

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he said? That's what you are alluding to in your question about

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Singapore and what Philip Hammond was threatening, we would try to be

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the cheap man of Europe, competing on those terms, reducing costs.

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That's your interpretation. My question is are you proud, looking

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forward to Theresa May, the Prime Minister here being the first

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foreign leader meeting Donald Trump? I think it is unfortunate while she

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was issuing threats to Europe and our Foreign Secretary was casually

:23:31.:23:32.

comparing French politicians with Nazis, that we are falling over

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ourselves or that Theresa May is falling over herself to ingratiate

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the UK with Donald Trump, who is a protectionist. It is going to be

:23:41.:23:44.

very interesting to see what these trade deal discussions lead to?

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Every indication is he could be an isolationist, protectionist, his

:23:53.:23:55.

inauguration speech pointed in that direction - buy American, hire

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American, America first. The Foreign Secretary didn't say anything like

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what Paul inner iffed and it is not what I said either. In terms of the

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Prime Minister going to the United States, I am proud of that. I think

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it really reinforces the fact the world's largest globally economy,

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the super power in the world at the moment, the United States, our

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oldest, strongest ally, we do more with them in security and trade than

:24:19.:24:21.

any other single country in the world and the fact they want to see

:24:22.:24:25.

our British female Prime Minister first is a good indication of where

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we are. And you dismiss the comments about building a war, making Mexico

:24:31.:24:33.

play, outrageous comments, that can be parked, can it? No, it can't. I

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think one of the points to remember in a good friendship, between

:24:39.:24:40.

friends, you are able to have frank conversations. Is she going to have

:24:41.:24:44.

that frank conversation? Snipe' confident our Prime Minister,

:24:45.:24:47.

Theresa May, will have the strength and steel to explain exactly where

:24:48.:24:51.

we stand as a country, things we don't always agree on and gooder

:24:52.:24:54.

partners do have to have those conversations. The strength of our

:24:55.:24:57.

friendship with America, as a country is that we can do that. All

:24:58.:24:59.

right, thank you. Now, as you know, on this programme

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we are always looking for ways And the good news today

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daytime programme. than stirring into your Dubonnet,

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some mother's ruin, that is making And what better way to serve

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than on the rocks with a sliced This is a shame I am ale on Dry

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just take a look at Big Ben, Yes, Prime Minister's

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Questions is on its way. A very foggy London today, but Laura

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Kuenssberg has made it through the fog. I have. Are we going to return

:27:41.:27:47.

to Europe today with Mr Corbyn? Well, as ever, it is always a bit

:27:48.:27:52.

dangerous to be too sure about it. I think it would be pretty surprising.

:27:53.:27:55.

This was so much the subject not just of the weekend, the thing

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everybody has been talking about really since the new year but

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absolutely of the moment with Labour and some Tory rebels, we call them

:28:03.:28:06.

now, rebel Remainers, pushing for once at the same thing, both of them

:28:07.:28:10.

pushing at this idea of forcing the Government to come up with a white

:28:11.:28:15.

paper, a document in terms of presenting formally their plans for

:28:16.:28:18.

the Brexit negotiations T maybe that Mr Corbyn decides to use some of his

:28:19.:28:23.

questions to go on that. -- it may be. However, word suggesting he may

:28:24.:28:27.

also pick up on the rough sleeping statistics on homelessness out this

:28:28.:28:31.

morning. We know Jeremy Corbyn has made times raised the issue of

:28:32.:28:34.

housing much those figures show a big rise. He may choose to mention

:28:35.:28:39.

that. Is this line, we have heard it several times now, that we don't

:28:40.:28:49.

want a bargain basement Britain, we don't want rights to be curtailed

:28:50.:28:53.

and go the, at that haven way. Is that a line he might pursue? Indeed

:28:54.:28:57.

I think they are trying it make that stick N terms of a critique of the

:28:58.:29:03.

Government's plan for Brexit that is something, given that Labour

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disagrees intermly over the facets of this, it is a message they are

:29:10.:29:15.

unite around, we don't want the country to go in a direction they

:29:16.:29:19.

are not happy with and workers' rights exploited. We know that's

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something that Jeremy Corbyn has picked out again and again in terms

:29:24.:29:31.

of Brexit. But, Paul Blomfield, Sadiq Khan, the Labour Mayor of

:29:32.:29:34.

London says he has spoken to a number of people, including Frances

:29:35.:29:37.

O'Grady who have been dealing with the Government, I've spoken to them

:29:38.:29:41.

as well and he says - I don't think they want to weaken workers' rights,

:29:42.:29:46.

I have seen no evidence in the conversations I have had, with

:29:47.:29:49.

senior members of the Government that that is their aI conspiracy or

:29:50.:29:52.

intention with something they want to do. It is indeed what what they

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said and I think it is probably for Brandon or others to answer - what

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did they mean by that threat, when Philip Hammond made his point and

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Theresa May echoed it in her speech last beak, a different economic and

:30:09.:30:12.

social model, what does it mean? But Sadiq Khan would not say this,

:30:13.:30:16.

unless he believes it to be true. Well, we aim to hold the Government

:30:17.:30:21.

to account on the pledge which David Davis made again yesterday, they

:30:22.:30:25.

don't want to weaken workers' rights. So what does that

:30:26.:30:28.

threatening change in our economic model mean? How are they using this

:30:29.:30:34.

as a bargaining chip? Not a helpful quote from Sadiq Khan Know nor is

:30:35.:30:38.

what one Government minister said to me yesterday, in the department they

:30:39.:30:41.

were talking about - they were looking to be more progressive and

:30:42.:30:43.

actually entrench rights in their particular part of Government than

:30:44.:30:45.

actually currently under the EU legislation. I think it goes to the

:30:46.:30:48.

fact that actually while Brexit s if you like a menu without prices, it

:30:49.:30:51.

is difficult for Labour to be able to be clear. It is rhetoric

:30:52.:30:54.

attacking rhetoric, rather than raet Rick going after a reality. What are

:30:55.:30:58.

the chances the Government whips out a white paper from its handbag in

:30:59.:31:03.

the next couple of weeks? I think it is not impossible and ministers are

:31:04.:31:06.

very happy to have this up their sleeve. However there has been a

:31:07.:31:09.

debate about whether or not they should do it now T would be an

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unplanned defeat, if you like, an unplanned concession, when they felt

:31:15.:31:19.

really very chipper last night in the wake of the legal ruling but it

:31:20.:31:23.

is not impossible they go - here you are, here is one I made earlier.

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Stnt just a cut and paste job of Theresa May's speech with the odd

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foot note. Well... Hold that without. Over to PMQs.

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I am sure the whole House will wish to join me in welcoming Mr Speaker

:31:45.:31:53.

and his colleagues. Order, questions to the Prime Minister, Helen Jones!

:31:54.:31:59.

Number one, Sir. The Prime Minister. As the response from the whole House

:32:00.:32:04.

showed, we do indeed all welcome the Speaker of the Burmese Parliament

:32:05.:32:08.

and his colleagues to see our deliberations today. I am also sure

:32:09.:32:12.

that the whole house will join me in sending our thoughts to the police

:32:13.:32:17.

officer who was shot in Belfast over the weekend, and to his friends and

:32:18.:32:22.

family. PSNI do a superb job in keeping us set and secure. Mr

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Speaker, this morning I had meetings with ministerial colleagues and

:32:28.:32:33.

others. In a addition to my duties in this house, I will further such

:32:34.:32:36.

meetings, and later this week I will travel to the United States for with

:32:37.:32:42.

President Trump. May I join the Prime Minister in sending good

:32:43.:32:45.

wishes to the police officer who was shot in Belfast? They are the best

:32:46.:32:52.

strikers on social mobility, 99% are rated good or outstanding, and 65%

:32:53.:32:59.

of their places are in the most deprived areas of this country. So

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why is the Prime Minister introducing cuts that threatened the

:33:03.:33:09.

very existence of maintained nursery schools? When it comes to social

:33:10.:33:13.

mobility, her actions speak far louder than her words. I want to

:33:14.:33:19.

ensure, and this Government wants to ensure, that we see good quality

:33:20.:33:23.

education at every age and at every stage for children in this country.

:33:24.:33:28.

That is why we are looking at improving the number of good school

:33:29.:33:32.

places, budget talks about my record, speaking louder than words.

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Can I just point out to the honourable lady that I was very

:33:37.:33:40.

proud, as chairman of an education authority in London in the 1990s, to

:33:41.:33:44.

introduce nursery school places for every three and four -year-old whose

:33:45.:33:51.

parents wanted one? The Prime Minister laid out a clear and bold

:33:52.:33:57.

plan for Brexit in her speech last week. Honourable... Honourable

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members... Honourable members, quite rightly, want an opportunity to

:34:07.:34:11.

scrutinise that plan. Does the Prime Minister agree that the best way of

:34:12.:34:16.

facilitating that scrutiny would be a government white paper, laying out

:34:17.:34:23.

the vision for a global Britain, based on free trade, in goods and

:34:24.:34:27.

services, that will be to the benefit of ours and other European

:34:28.:34:32.

countries? Well, my honourable friend raises the question of

:34:33.:34:36.

Parliamentary scrutiny. I have been clear, as have senior ministers,

:34:37.:34:39.

that we will ensure that Parliament has every opportunity to provide

:34:40.:34:43.

that scrutiny on this issue as we go through this process. By directing

:34:44.:34:48.

nice, I set out that bold plan for a global Britain last week, and I

:34:49.:34:52.

recognise there is an opportunity for a white paper. My honourable

:34:53.:35:01.

friend's question, I can confirm to the House that our plan will be set

:35:02.:35:07.

out in a white paper. Jeremy Corbyn! Mr Speaker, I joined the Prime

:35:08.:35:16.

Minister in condolences, in expressing condolences, I am sure,

:35:17.:35:20.

the whole House to the family of the police officer who lost his life

:35:21.:35:23.

over the weekend in Northern Ireland. Mr Speaker, the Prime

:35:24.:35:30.

Minister has wasted 80 days between the time of the original judgment

:35:31.:35:36.

and the appeal, and is now finally admitting today, after pressure from

:35:37.:35:40.

all sides, that there is going to be a date paper. Could we know when

:35:41.:35:45.

this white paper is going to be available to us? And why it has

:35:46.:35:53.

taken so long to get it? LAUGHTER

:35:54.:36:00.

Prime Minister! Can I say to the right honourable gentleman, he asked

:36:01.:36:04.

for debates, I was very clear there will always be debates in this

:36:05.:36:07.

House, and there will continue to be. The asked for votes, the House

:36:08.:36:13.

voted overwhelmingly for the Government to trigger Article 50

:36:14.:36:17.

before the end of March this year. He asked for a plan, I set out, as

:36:18.:36:21.

my honourable friend for Croydon South said, a clear plan for a bold

:36:22.:36:27.

future for Britain. He and others ask for a white paper, I have been

:36:28.:36:30.

clear there will be a white paper. But I am also clear that the right

:36:31.:36:36.

honourable gentleman always ask about process, about the means to

:36:37.:36:41.

the end. I and this government are focusing on the outcomes. We are

:36:42.:36:48.

focusing... We are focusing on a truly global Britain, building a

:36:49.:36:52.

stronger future for this country, the right deal for Britain and

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Britain out of the European Union. Jeremy Corbyn! Mr Speaker, I

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question wasn't complicated, it's just asked when the white paper will

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come out! And will it be published before or at the same time as the

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bill that is apparently about to be published? Mr Speaker, last week, I

:37:13.:37:17.

asked the Prime Minister repeatedly to clarify whether her government is

:37:18.:37:22.

prepared to pay to secure tariff free access to the single European

:37:23.:37:27.

market. She repeatedly refused to answer the question, so I will ask

:37:28.:37:31.

again. Is there a government ruling out paying a fee for tariff free

:37:32.:37:37.

access to the single market, or the bespoke Customs union that she

:37:38.:37:42.

outlined also in a speech? Than I first of all say to the right

:37:43.:37:45.

honourable gentleman, in his reference to the timing issue, these

:37:46.:37:50.

are two separate issues. The House has overwhelmingly voted that

:37:51.:37:54.

Article 50 should be triggered before the end of March 2017,

:37:55.:37:58.

following the Supreme Court judgment a bill will be provided for this

:37:59.:38:02.

House, and there will be the proper debate in this chamber and another

:38:03.:38:06.

place on that bill. There is then the separate question of publishing

:38:07.:38:10.

the plan that I have set out, a bold vision for Britain for the future. I

:38:11.:38:15.

will do that in a white paper, and the right honourable gentleman knows

:38:16.:38:18.

that one of our objectives is the best possible free trade arrangement

:38:19.:38:25.

with the European Union, and that is what we will be negotiating for.

:38:26.:38:29.

Jeremy Corbyn! Some of this is very worrying too many people in this

:38:30.:38:33.

House, but more importantly it is worrying to many others. For

:38:34.:38:36.

instance, the chief executive of Nissan was given assurances about

:38:37.:38:42.

future trade arrangements with Europe but now says they will have

:38:43.:38:47.

to re-evaluate the situation about their investments in Britain. The

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Prime Minister, Mr Speaker, is threatening the EU that unless they

:38:54.:38:57.

give in to her demands, she will turn Britain into a bargain basement

:38:58.:39:01.

stacks save and off the coast of Europe. -- bargain basement tax

:39:02.:39:07.

haven. We on this side of the House are very well aware of the

:39:08.:39:09.

consequences that would have, the damage it would do two jobs and

:39:10.:39:13.

living standards and our public services. Is she now going to rule

:39:14.:39:19.

out the bargain basement thread that was in his speech at Lancaster

:39:20.:39:25.

House? Prime Minister! I expect us to get a good deal in trading

:39:26.:39:29.

relationships with the European Union, but I am clear we will not

:39:30.:39:34.

sign up to a bad deal for the United Kingdom, and as to the threats that

:39:35.:39:38.

the right parable gentleman claims about what might happen, and he

:39:39.:39:42.

often talks about this, he uses those phrases, talking about

:39:43.:39:46.

workers' rights, perhaps he should listen to his former colleague, the

:39:47.:39:51.

Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, who has today said, to give credit to the

:39:52.:39:54.

Government, I don't think they want to weaken workers' rights, and he

:39:55.:39:59.

goes on to say, I have Cena evidence from the conversations I have had

:40:00.:40:02.

with senior members of the government that that is their

:40:03.:40:06.

aspiration or their intention or something they want to do. -- I have

:40:07.:40:13.

seen no evidence. As usual with Labour, the right hand is not

:40:14.:40:17.

talking to the far left! Jeremy Corbyn! Mr Speaker... Mr Speaker,

:40:18.:40:27.

the... The evidence of what the Tory party and this government really

:40:28.:40:30.

thinks about workers' rights was there for all to see yesterday. A

:40:31.:40:36.

private member's bill under the ten minute rule by a Tory MP to tear up

:40:37.:40:43.

parts of the international labour organisation Convention, talking

:40:44.:40:47.

down my friend the member for Grimsby's built to protect European

:40:48.:40:50.

workers' rights that have been attained in this country. That is

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the real agenda of the Tory party! Mr Speaker, what the Prime Minister

:40:56.:41:08.

is doing is petted -- petulantly aiming threats about a bargain

:41:09.:41:13.

basement Britain, is a priority the struggling NHS, those denied social

:41:14.:41:18.

care, children having funding cut, or once again be the cuts in big

:41:19.:41:24.

business taxation to make the rich even better off? Prime Minister! I

:41:25.:41:28.

would simply remind the right honourable gentleman on the issue of

:41:29.:41:31.

workers' rights that I have been very clear that this government will

:41:32.:41:35.

protect workers' rights, indeed we have a review of modern employment

:41:36.:41:38.

law to ensure that legislation is keeping up with the modern labour

:41:39.:41:44.

market. One of the objectives I set out in my plan for our negotiating

:41:45.:41:47.

objectives was to protect workers' rights, but he talks about threats

:41:48.:41:50.

to public services. I will tell him what the threat to public services

:41:51.:41:56.

would be, a Labour government borrowing 500 million extra! That

:41:57.:42:02.

would destroy our economy and mean no funding for our public services.

:42:03.:42:09.

Jeremy Corbyn! The threat to workers' rights, Mr Speaker, is

:42:10.:42:13.

there every day. Six million and in less than the living wage, many

:42:14.:42:17.

people, nearly a million, on zero hours contracts, no protection

:42:18.:42:23.

offered by this government. They are offering, once again, the bargain

:42:24.:42:29.

basement alternative. Will the Prime Minister, Mr Speaker, take this

:42:30.:42:33.

opportunity today to congratulate the 100,000 people who marched in

:42:34.:42:37.

Britain last weekend to highlight women's rights after President

:42:38.:42:40.

Trump's inauguration and express their concerns about his misogyny?

:42:41.:42:48.

Because many have concerns, Mr Speaker, that in her forthcoming

:42:49.:42:51.

meeting with President Trump, she will be prepared to offer up. Five

:42:52.:43:00.

is -- to offer up for sacrifice the opportunity for American companies

:43:01.:43:03.

to take over part of our NHS or our public services. Will she assure the

:43:04.:43:08.

House that in any trade deal none of those things will be offered up as a

:43:09.:43:14.

bargaining chip? Prime Minister! Again, I would point out to the

:43:15.:43:18.

honourable gentleman that this government introduced the national

:43:19.:43:20.

living wage. This government has made changes to 0-hours contracts.

:43:21.:43:26.

But on the issue of my visit to the United States of America, on the

:43:27.:43:31.

issue of my visit, I am pleased that I am able to meet President Trump so

:43:32.:43:36.

early in his administration. That is a sign of the strength of the

:43:37.:43:40.

special relationship between the United Kingdom and the United States

:43:41.:43:44.

of America, a special relationship on which he and I intend to build.

:43:45.:43:50.

But can I also say to the Leader of the Opposition, I am not afraid to

:43:51.:43:55.

speak frankly to a President of the United States. I am able to do that

:43:56.:43:59.

because we have that special relationship. A special relationship

:44:00.:44:02.

that he would never have with the United States. Jeremy Corbyn! Mr

:44:03.:44:09.

Speaker, we would never allow Britain to be sold off on the cheap.

:44:10.:44:15.

How confident is she of getting a good deal for global Britain from a

:44:16.:44:20.

president who wants to put America first, by American and build a wall

:44:21.:44:27.

between his country and Mexico? Mr Speaker, Article 50 wasn't about a

:44:28.:44:30.

court judgments against this government, what is signified was

:44:31.:44:36.

the bad judgment of this government, the bad judgment of prioritising

:44:37.:44:41.

corporate tax cuts overinvestment in national health and social care. The

:44:42.:44:45.

bad judgment of threatening European partners whilst offering a blank

:44:46.:44:52.

cheque to President Trump! The bad judgment of wanting to turn Britain

:44:53.:44:57.

into a bargain basement tax haven. So will she offers some clarity and

:44:58.:45:02.

some certainty and withdraw the threats to destroy the social

:45:03.:45:06.

structure of this country by turning us into the bargain basement that

:45:07.:45:07.

she clearly threatens? We will be out around the world with

:45:08.:45:18.

the EU Americans and other countries negotiating good trade deals for

:45:19.:45:20.

this country to bring prosperity. The right honourable gentleman wants

:45:21.:45:24.

to talk about Brexit. I have to say to him, he is the leader of the

:45:25.:45:29.

party, he can not agree with his Shadow Chancellor about Brexit. The

:45:30.:45:33.

Shadow Chancellor can't agree with the shadow Brexit secretary, the

:45:34.:45:36.

shadow Brexit secretary disagrees with the Shadow Home Secretary and

:45:37.:45:38.

the Shadow Home Secretary has to read up the leader and tell him to

:45:39.:45:44.

change his mind. He talks about us standing up for Britain, they can't

:45:45.:45:48.

speak for themselves, they'll never speak for Britain. SHOUTING AND

:45:49.:46:02.

JEERS Thank you Mr Speaker, on 27th

:46:03.:46:07.

December, another young woman lost her life driving through the West

:46:08.:46:11.

Country on the A303. In the past decade more than 1,000 people have

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been killed or injured on that road. For 40 years governments have

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promised to dual the lethal parts of the road where they become two and

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three with no central reservation. The queues on the road are also

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legendary. I know the Government is comuted to an upgrade but can the

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Prime Minister assure us that the proposed tunnel at Stonehenge will

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not hold up essential work elsewhere and we'll soon see cones on the road

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and spades in the ground? Well my honourable friend raises an

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important issue. He is absolutely right to do that. I can assure him

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we are working generally to improve the safety of our roads. He refers

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specifically to the issue of the A303 and the tragic incident that

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happened on 27th December. We've committed to creating a dual

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carriageway on the A303 from the M3 to M5. I understand highways England

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have launched a a consultation into the route under Stonehenge and my

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honourable friend will want to look closely at this issue. This is all

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part of our ?2 billion investment in road improvement that will improve

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connections in the south-west but I can assure him that we have road

:47:21.:47:25.

safety at the forefront of our mind. I begin by wishing everybody a very

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happy Burns Day and of course extending congratulations to the

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Scotsman newspaper which is celebrating its by centenary today.

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Yesterday ... To Brexit. So, in the spirit of progress for Parliament,

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in advance of meeting President Trump, will the Prime Minister tell

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Parliament what she wants to achieve in a UK-US trade deal? Can I join

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the right honourable gentleman in his good wishes for a happy Burn's

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Day to everybody and also in recognising the by centenary of the

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Scotsman. I'm sure everybody in the house would join me in that. What we

:48:14.:48:17.

want to achieve in terms of our arrangements with the United States?

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It is very simple. We want to achieve an arrangement that ensures

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the interests of the United Kingdom are put first and that is what I

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will be doing, and we see a trade arrangement, as we will be looking

:48:32.:48:35.

for, from other parts of the world, to bring prosperity and growth to

:48:36.:48:38.

the UK and my aim for this Government is to ensure that economy

:48:39.:48:42.

works for everybody in every part of the UK. ! The European Union, which

:48:43.:48:46.

we are still part of, has amongst the highest food safety standards

:48:47.:48:50.

anywhere in the world. And we are proud on our continent to have

:48:51.:48:54.

public national health systems. The United States, on the other hand, is

:48:55.:48:57.

keen to have health systems which are fully open to private

:48:58.:49:03.

competition. They want to export genetically modified organisms, beef

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raised with growth hormones and chicken meat washed with chlorinated

:49:08.:49:11.

water. Will the Prime Minister tell President Trump that she is not

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prepared to lower our food and safety standards, or to open health

:49:15.:49:18.

systems for privatisation, or does she believe that this is the price

:49:19.:49:25.

worth paying for a UK-US trade deal? We will be looking for a UK-US trade

:49:26.:49:30.

deal Thame proves trade between our two countries that will bring

:49:31.:49:33.

prosperity and growth to this country, that will ensure we can

:49:34.:49:37.

bring jobs to this country as well. I can assure the right honourable

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gentleman in doing, that we will put UK interests and UK values first.

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Thank you, Mr Speaker, historic per capita spending in our region,

:49:49.:49:52.

including Yorkshire, when compared to London is up to 40% lower for our

:49:53.:49:58.

local authorities, up to 50% lower for our schools and up to 60% lower

:49:59.:50:02.

for transport prospects. Does the Prime Minister agree that if we want

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to build a country that works for everyone, we need a fair funding

:50:07.:50:11.

deal that works for everyone? I see the issues my honourable friend has

:50:12.:50:16.

raised. I can assure him our commitment in relation to the

:50:17.:50:20.

northern parts of England, including Yorkshire, is absolutely clear. We

:50:21.:50:23.

want business growth across the north. We are backing the northern

:50:24.:50:28.

powerhouse to help the great cities and towns of the north pool their

:50:29.:50:34.

strength and take on the world. Yorkshire LETs have received an

:50:35.:50:36.

additional ?156 million in Government funding this week and we

:50:37.:50:41.

are spending a record ?15 billion on transport across north. As a result

:50:42.:50:46.

there are more people in Yorkshire in Humber this the work than

:50:47.:50:49.

everybody before and employments rates are at a record high. Good

:50:50.:50:54.

news for the region and for the economy as a whole The European

:50:55.:50:59.

Medicines Agency provides a single drug licencing system for 500

:51:00.:51:03.

million people and results in the UK having drugs licensed six to 127

:51:04.:51:07.

months ahead of countries like Canada and Australia. Yesterday the

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Health Secretary stated that the UK will not be in the EMA. Can the

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Prime Minister confirm this and explain how she'll prevent delayed

:51:18.:51:22.

drug access for UK patients? Well, there are a number of organisations

:51:23.:51:26.

that we are part of as members of the European Union and as part of

:51:27.:51:30.

the work that we are doing to look at the United Kingdom in the future

:51:31.:51:34.

when we have left the European Union, we will look at the

:51:35.:51:37.

arrangements we can put in place to relation to those issues. We want to

:51:38.:51:43.

ensure that we continue to have, the pharmaceutical industry in this

:51:44.:51:46.

country is a very important part ever of our economy as are the

:51:47.:51:50.

ability of people to access these new drugs, I can assure the

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honourable lady we are looking seriously at this and will ensure we

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have the arrangements we need Too few British intren airs are

:51:59.:52:01.

connecting with the capital they need to start and grow. As part of

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her industrial sfreedge, which will be looking at access to capital,

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will the Prime Minister order a view of the enterprise investment scheme

:52:11.:52:15.

and the seed investment scheme in the hope they can be simplified,

:52:16.:52:22.

helping to achieve the pools of buccaneering capital that British

:52:23.:52:25.

industry needs? My honourable friend raises an important issue and he has

:52:26.:52:29.

long been a champion of intren airships in this country. . I can

:52:30.:52:40.

tell him we are committed to providing the best possible... There

:52:41.:52:45.

is a panel that is looking at barriers that exist in long-term

:52:46.:52:48.

investment and we are also increasing investment from venture

:52:49.:52:52.

capital by the British business banks by ?4700 million and that will

:52:53.:52:58.

un-- ?400 million which will unlock new finance. The Treasury will

:52:59.:53:05.

publish a consultation in the spring looking at these issues I'm sure my

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honourable friend willp wanted to sponchtsd four-and-a-half years ago

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my constituents were on a family holiday on the Greek island of Zante

:53:13.:53:18.

when their son Jamie was hit answer killed by a speeding motor bike. It

:53:19.:53:23.

was his ninth birthday. The rider was convicted but has appealed

:53:24.:53:26.

against his sentence and to date remains a free man. Will the Prime

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Minister agree to meet with Chris and Lidya to discuss how they can

:53:32.:53:37.

finally secure justice for Jamie? Can I say to the honourable lady I'm

:53:38.:53:41.

very happy to look at this case. I mean it is a tragic case she has

:53:42.:53:45.

described and our thoughts must be with Chris and Lidya at the terrible

:53:46.:53:50.

loss that they have experienced. To the issues of what is happening in

:53:51.:53:54.

terms of the Greek Criminal Justice System, of course that is a matter

:53:55.:53:59.

for the Greek authorities. But we will, I will look seriously at this

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case and see if there is anything that the Foreign Office can do in

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relation to this. President Trump has repeatedly said

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that he will bring back torture as an instrument of policy. When she

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sees him on Friday, will the Prime Minister make clear that in no

:54:16.:54:19.

circumstances will she permit Britain to be dragged into

:54:20.:54:23.

facilitating that torture, as we were after September 11th? I can

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assure my honourable friend that we have a very clear position on

:54:29.:54:31.

torture. We do not sanction torture. We do not get involved with that and

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that will continue to be our position.

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Thank you Mr Speaker. 70% of my constituents voted Remain. 15% are

:54:40.:54:46.

citizens of other EU countries and almost all don't trust her

:54:47.:54:50.

Government to negotiate a deal that secures the future prosperity of

:54:51.:54:53.

London and the UK. Will she give this House a veto on the deal she

:54:54.:54:58.

does, or will she put that deal back to a referendum of the British

:54:59.:55:05.

people? I say to the honourable gentleman, people voted differently

:55:06.:55:08.

across the country. Parts voted to Remain and parts voted to Leave.

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What we now do is unite behind the result of the vote that took place.

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We come together as a country, we go out there, we make a success of this

:55:18.:55:21.

and we ensure that we build that truly global Britain that will bring

:55:22.:55:26.

jobs to his constituency and his constituents. Mr Speaker, this week

:55:27.:55:32.

Milton Keynes celebrates its 50th birthday. We have been the most

:55:33.:55:37.

successful of new cities and have one of the highest rates of economic

:55:38.:55:41.

growth. Will the Prime Minister agree that Milton Keynes has a great

:55:42.:55:48.

future and will be central to delivering this Government's

:55:49.:55:52.

ambitious plans? Well, can I join my honourable friend, can I join my

:55:53.:55:59.

honourable friend in marking Milton Keynes's 50th birthday and also I

:56:00.:56:02.

understand he has secured a Westminster Hall debate. I

:56:03.:56:05.

congratulate him on having done that. I think Milton Keynes is a

:56:06.:56:09.

great example of what you can achieve with a clear plan and with

:56:10.:56:13.

strong, local leader sh. We are providing, as he knows, additional

:56:14.:56:17.

funding for the East-West rail prospect ject. I know he supported

:56:18.:56:23.

that by chairing the APGG as well as a Oxfordshire express road emschoo.

:56:24.:56:26.

We'll see a country that works for everyone. Milton Keynes has had not

:56:27.:56:32.

just a great 50 years but I'm sure a great future as well. Last week a

:56:33.:56:36.

freight train arrived at barking from China using the Chunnel and

:56:37.:56:42.

demonstrating the massive protension of rail treat, but containtal rail

:56:43.:56:48.

wagons and lorries on trains cannot be accommodated on Britain's railway

:56:49.:56:51.

network. Would the Prime Minister consider giving positive support to

:56:52.:56:56.

the GB gateway scheme which could link all the nations and regions of

:56:57.:57:00.

Britain both to each other and to Europe beyond and would take 5

:57:01.:57:05.

million lorry journeys off Britain's roads per year? The honourable

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gentleman has raised an issue, a different gauge on the railways here

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and on the continpent which has been an issue for some considerable time.

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We want to encourage freight on rails. We have been encouraging that

:57:17.:57:23.

and we'll continue to do so. Thank you, very much, Mr Speaker.

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The ministry of Cake in my constituency, a ?30 million turnover

:57:30.:57:36.

company has recently been bought by a French company. They trade across

:57:37.:57:43.

Europe and into China. Does this not demonstrate, Prime Minister and

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would you agree with me that it demonstrates the confidence in our

:57:49.:57:51.

economy as a European company has bought in? It demonstrates that we

:57:52.:57:55.

can unlock global trade and it demonstrates that the south-west is

:57:56.:58:04.

a terrific place to do business? I absolutely agree with high

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honourable friend. I think the investment that she has referred to

:58:09.:58:13.

of the French company into a company in her constituency shows the

:58:14.:58:16.

confidence that people have in our economy for the future T shows the

:58:17.:58:19.

fundamental strengths of our economy. -- it shows. And it also

:58:20.:58:24.

shows that we can unlock global trade and of course the south-west

:58:25.:58:31.

is a very good place to do business. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Robert Burns

:58:32.:58:35.

said whatever damages society or any least part of it, that is my measure

:58:36.:58:42.

of inequity. Would the Prime Minister agree that that applies to

:58:43.:58:47.

the tax system found to be illegal by British courts under which 10,000

:58:48.:58:52.

asylum seekers were denied a fair trial and some probably unlegally

:58:53.:58:57.

deported to death and torture? I say to the honourable gentleman the

:58:58.:59:02.

issue of the detained fast track system in the asylum system I looked

:59:03.:59:08.

at when I was Home Secretary and we looked at the a number of changes on

:59:09.:59:13.

how we operate it but it was built on a strong principle - which is if

:59:14.:59:17.

there is somebody whose case for asylum is such that they are almost

:59:18.:59:21.

certain to be refused that asylum, then we want to be ensure they can

:59:22.:59:26.

be removed from the country as quickly as possible, hence the

:59:27.:59:29.

detained fast track. I would like to ask my friend the

:59:30.:59:33.

Prime Minister if she would insist in trying to get an enterprise zone

:59:34.:59:37.

in my constituency as part of the industrial strategy. It turns out

:59:38.:59:40.

that the Labour Council and Labour county council, who are talking

:59:41.:59:46.

about an enterprise zonesque project in the area, have not applied for

:59:47.:59:50.

any funding whatsoever. Would my right honourable friend assist me in

:59:51.:59:55.

this endeavour? Well, can I say to my honourable friend I know what a

:59:56.:00:00.

champion for his constituency it is. And I'm sure that the Chancellor and

:00:01.:00:03.

the Business Secretary will look at the issue that he has raised. I also

:00:04.:00:08.

say how sad it is that Labour councils are not willing to put

:00:09.:00:12.

forward proposals to increase the prosperity and economic growth in

:00:13.:00:13.

their area. Closed question. Number 11. I will

:00:14.:00:26.

meet the First Minister and leaders of the devolved administrations at

:00:27.:00:29.

the joint ministerial committee on Monday, but we regularly engage with

:00:30.:00:34.

the Scottish Government on a number of issues. When she meets with the

:00:35.:00:37.

First Minister, will she confirm whether she supports the principle

:00:38.:00:41.

of the Scotland Act that whatever is not reserved is devolved and will

:00:42.:00:45.

she be able to tell what powers will come to the Scottish Parliament in

:00:46.:00:50.

the event of Brexit? Can she confirm the Great Repeal Bill will not be

:00:51.:00:55.

the great power grab? I have been very clear, echoed yesterday by the

:00:56.:00:59.

Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, that no powers that

:01:00.:01:04.

are currently devolved will be taken back to the UK Government. What we

:01:05.:01:08.

will be looking at, and what we will be discussing with the devolved

:01:09.:01:11.

administrations, is how we deal with powers which are currently in

:01:12.:01:15.

Brussels when they come back to the United Kingdom, and what we want to

:01:16.:01:18.

ensure, we want to ensure those powers are dealt with so we can

:01:19.:01:22.

maintain the important single market of the United Kingdom. Thank you, Mr

:01:23.:01:28.

Speaker. It is currently hand offence to assault a police officer,

:01:29.:01:34.

an immigration officer way prison officer, but it is not a specific

:01:35.:01:40.

offence to assault an NHS worker, doctor, nurse or paramedic. Does the

:01:41.:01:44.

Prime Minister agree with me that we should consider extending a specific

:01:45.:01:48.

offence to these people to make it absolutely clear that the public

:01:49.:01:52.

will not tolerate violence towards our hard-working members of the NHS?

:01:53.:01:58.

My honourable friend raises an important point, we condemn assaults

:01:59.:02:02.

on anybody and any violence that takes place, but the Secretary of

:02:03.:02:04.

State for Health has heard the KC has put and will be happy to look at

:02:05.:02:12.

that issue. -- has heard the case that he has put. Will be Duke of

:02:13.:02:20.

Westminster still received ?407,000 year, will Duke of Northumberland

:02:21.:02:25.

still receive ?475,000 a year, and will the Earl of either still

:02:26.:02:32.

receive ?915,000 a year from the British taxpayer? The honourable

:02:33.:02:35.

gentleman seems to know a lot about these ducal matters, I will be

:02:36.:02:41.

fascinated by the reply! One of the tasks that we will have, and the

:02:42.:02:45.

honourable gentleman is right, when we leave the European Union, is to

:02:46.:02:50.

decide what support is provided to agriculture as we are outside of the

:02:51.:02:54.

Common Agricultural Policy. We are taking the interest of all parts of

:02:55.:02:57.

the UK into account when we look into what the system should do in

:02:58.:03:02.

the future. A Hampshire Nice, Sir Gerald Howarth! Last weekend, the

:03:03.:03:10.

Secretary of State for Defence made a very welcome visit to Ukraine,

:03:11.:03:16.

where he said that freedom and democracy are not tradable

:03:17.:03:19.

commodities. As we mark the 25th anniversary of relations between our

:03:20.:03:24.

two partners, could I invite my right honourable friend to declare

:03:25.:03:28.

the support of the UK for the maintenance of an independent

:03:29.:03:30.

sovereign state in Ukraine, which has been subjected to the most

:03:31.:03:37.

outrageous annexation of part of its providence by Russia? I am very

:03:38.:03:40.

happy to join my honourable friend in confirming our commitment to the

:03:41.:03:43.

independent sovereign state of Ukraine. The Foreign Secretary has

:03:44.:03:47.

been doing a lot of work with other Foreign Ministers on this particular

:03:48.:03:52.

issue, we provide significant support to Ukraine, and I hope soon

:03:53.:03:55.

to be up to meet the president and talk about the support we provide.

:03:56.:04:03.

Pat McFadden. Last week the Prime Minister said that Parliament would

:04:04.:04:07.

get a vote on the final deal between the UK and the European Union. Kuqi

:04:08.:04:12.

set out what would happen if Parliament said no to the terms of

:04:13.:04:17.

that deal? -- could she set out. Would she negotiate an alternative

:04:18.:04:22.

deal, or would no deal option be falling back on WTO rules, which

:04:23.:04:29.

mean 10% tariffs on cars, 20% on food and trick, and a host of other

:04:30.:04:35.

barriers to trade, investment and prosperity in the UK? Prime

:04:36.:04:39.

Minister. As I also said in my speech, I expect we will be but to

:04:40.:04:43.

negotiate a good deal in terms of trade with the European Union,

:04:44.:04:47.

because it would be in our interests and those of the European Union as

:04:48.:04:52.

well. There will be a vote on the deal for this Parliament, but then,

:04:53.:04:57.

if this Parliament is not willing to accept a deal that has been decided

:04:58.:05:02.

and agreed by the United Kingdom Government with the European Union,

:05:03.:05:05.

I have said that if there is no deal, we will have to fall back on

:05:06.:05:11.

other arrangements. Mr Speaker, a great pleasure to welcome my

:05:12.:05:13.

honourable friend the Prime Minister and her Cabinet to Khazri earlier

:05:14.:05:20.

this week, and I welcome the Government industrial strategy to

:05:21.:05:23.

bring high skill, high wage jobs to close the North-South divide, and

:05:24.:05:30.

the message is that Britain is open for business. I and the whole

:05:31.:05:34.

Cabinet were very pleased to be able to visit, pleased to be able to sit

:05:35.:05:38.

down and meet with small businesses on that particular site to hear the

:05:39.:05:42.

support they have for what the Government is doing in the

:05:43.:05:46.

industrial strategy. Britain is open for business, we will be trading

:05:47.:05:49.

around the world, a global leader in free trade, bringing jobs, economic

:05:50.:05:54.

growth and prosperity to every part of this country. Thank you, Mr

:05:55.:06:02.

Speaker. We are now aware of the hundreds of thousands of women who

:06:03.:06:05.

marched in behalf of women's rights last weekend. In this House, we have

:06:06.:06:11.

been lobbied by members of the women against state pension inequality,

:06:12.:06:15.

and many MPs have lodged petitions asking the Government to act. Can

:06:16.:06:20.

the Prime Minister tell us how many MPs have lodged such petitions? I

:06:21.:06:24.

have to say to the honourable gentleman that I think the number of

:06:25.:06:27.

petitions presented in this Parliament is a matter for the

:06:28.:06:32.

authorities, but the Government has already taken action in relation to

:06:33.:06:34.

the issue of women's pensions to reduce the changes that will be

:06:35.:06:39.

experienced by women and putting extra money into that. Following her

:06:40.:06:44.

excellent EU speech last week, will the Prime Minister consider

:06:45.:06:49.

unilaterally guaranteeing the rights of EU citizens living and working in

:06:50.:06:53.

the UK? This isn't just the decent thing to do, but by taking the moral

:06:54.:06:58.

high ground, it will be a source of strength going forward in the

:06:59.:07:02.

negotiations, and we can always return to the issue of

:07:03.:07:06.

non-reciprocation and necessary later in those negotiations. I

:07:07.:07:09.

recognise the concern that my honourable friend has raised in

:07:10.:07:12.

relation to this issue, but my position remains the same as it

:07:13.:07:16.

always has been. I expect and intend and want to be able to guarantee the

:07:17.:07:21.

rights of EU citizens living in the United Kingdom, but as the British

:07:22.:07:24.

by Minister it is only right that I should give consideration to the

:07:25.:07:30.

rights of UK citizens living in the remaining 27 member states of the

:07:31.:07:33.

EU, and that is why I wanted that reciprocal arrangement. As I said

:07:34.:07:38.

last week, Ira Main open to this being an issue we negotiate at a

:07:39.:07:44.

very early stage. -- I remain open. A number of other European bodies

:07:45.:07:47.

want that, and I'm hoping we will be up to do it at an early stage. Dr

:07:48.:07:55.

Lisa Cameron. Thank you, Mr Speaker. As chair of the all-party

:07:56.:08:00.

Parliamentary group for disability, we recently compiled an important

:08:01.:08:03.

report into the Government's pledge to halve the employment gap.

:08:04.:08:07.

Research shows this pledge will not be met for 50 years. To date, no

:08:08.:08:12.

minister has met with the group to discuss the report. Will the Prime

:08:13.:08:16.

Minister place people with disability at the heart of policy

:08:17.:08:21.

and ensure that her ministers engage with our recommendations? The Prime

:08:22.:08:26.

Minister. The honourable lady raises an important issue about disabled

:08:27.:08:32.

people in the workplace. It is one we are aware of, and as we see the

:08:33.:08:35.

number of people in unemployed and going down, it does change the

:08:36.:08:43.

ratios to select ten. The Secretary of State is looking at how we can

:08:44.:08:49.

ensure that we are seeing more disabled people in the workplace,

:08:50.:08:54.

and I am sure he will have seen that request. Can I welcome the Prime

:08:55.:08:57.

Minister meeting with the president of Turkey on Saturday, when we can

:08:58.:09:03.

show our solidarity in the fight against terrorism, deepen our

:09:04.:09:06.

trading relationship, and the Prime Minister also seek support for a

:09:07.:09:11.

united and independent Cyprus free from Turkish troops? I thank my

:09:12.:09:15.

honourable friend for raising the important issues that I will be

:09:16.:09:19.

discussing with President Erdogan, and with the Prime Minister of

:09:20.:09:22.

Turkey when I meet them on Saturday. He raises the issue of Cyprus. I am

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hopeful that the talks will be able to continue to come to a solution,

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closer to a solution than we have been before. I have already spoken

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to the Prime Minister and the President about the need to ensure

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that we are creative in thinking and finding a solution for this, and I

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had a further telephone call over the weekend about this very issue.

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We stand ready, as a guarantor, to play our part in making sure we see

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a successful conclusion of these talks, and see the reunification of

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Cyprus, which people have been working for for some time. Thank

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you, Mr Speaker. I joined the Prime Minister in wishing a speedy

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recovery to the police officer who was shot and injured in my

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constituency in north Belfast on Sunday night. Thankfully, he was not

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killed, but that was not the intention of the terrorists, of

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course. It is very clear, Mr Speaker, that the political

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instability brought about by Sinn Fein's collapse of the assembly is

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in no-one's interest, and it is also clear that their intention is to

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rewrite the past. Will she make it very clear that the legal

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persecution of police officers and soldiers who did so much to bring

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peace to Northern Ireland will not be allowed to continue? I say to the

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right honourable gentleman that, as he indicates, the political

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stability in Northern Ireland has been hard earned over some

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considerable time, and none of us want to see and thrown away. He

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raises the issue of the current situation, where a number of

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investigations by the PSNI into former soldiers and their activities

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in Northern Ireland, and I think it is right that we recognise that the

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majority of people who lost their lives did so as a result of

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terrorist activity, and it is important that the terrorist

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activity is looked into. That is why one of the issues that my right

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honourable friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland is

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looking at is the legacy question and how that can take place in

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future. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Social care provided by Labour led

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council in my area is failing miserably. Serious errors in process

:11:35.:11:40.

have led to, quite frankly, shameful consequences for some of my most

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vulnerable constituents. It is clearly not about funding, as they

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said on reserves of about ?233 million. Will my right honourable

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friend instigate an urgent review of social care practice at the county

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council, because the people of Derbyshire deserve better? Prime

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Minister. My honourable friend has made an important point in relation

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to this issue, which is that successful social care is not wholly

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about funding, but the practice on the ground, and that is why we are

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very clear that it is important to see that integration between social

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and health care at a local level, and local authorities should be

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playing their part in delivering that. And this is any stew that we

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need to see addressed for the longer term as well. -- an issue. Frankly,

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it has been ducked by governments for too long in this country, and

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that is why we are determined to bring forward a sustainable

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programme in the future. Ed Miliband. It brings... The right

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honourable gentleman never knew he was quite that popular! Ed Miliband!

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I was going to say, Mr Speaker, it brings back memories, actually! Can

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I say to the Prime Minister, as the first foreign leader to meet

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President Trump, she carries a huge responsibility on behalf not just of

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this country but the whole international community in the town

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that she sets? Can I ask her to reassure us that she will say to the

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President that he must abide by and not withdraw from the Paris climate

:13:14.:13:18.

change treaty, and in case it is helpful, can she offer the services

:13:19.:13:23.

of UK scientists to convince the president that climate change is not

:13:24.:13:28.

a hoax invented by the Chinese? Prime Minister! Well, I recognise

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the role the right honourable gentleman has played in looking at

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this issue of climate change, and I hope he recognises the commitment

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this government has shown to be a stew of climate change with the

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legislation we have put through, and the changes that we have brought

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about in terms of the energy sector and users of different forms of

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energy. The Obama administration obviously signed up to the Paris

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climate change agreement, we have now done that, I would hope that all

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parties would continue to ensure that the climate change agreement is

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put into practice. Order... Well, 45 minutes after it started,

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it has come to an end. Looks like the speaker has now decided it

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should be 45 instead of 30. It seems a standed time. The Prime Minister

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took kavend planted question from a Tory backbencher, to announce there

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will be a white paper on the Government's Brexit position. It

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seems a standard time. -- the Prime Minister took a planted

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question. This probably took some of the wind

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out of the sails of Jeremy Corbyn. I suspect he was about to ask about

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that. He changed tact, I think and started to talk about - would we be

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prepared to pay to secure tariff-free access to the European

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single market. He went on to Nissan, was it reevaluating its investments

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in Britain and thenned about the bargain basement Britain which has

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become a favourite phrase of Labour out of Mr Corbyn. The Prime Minister

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quoted Sadiq Khan, the Labour Mayor of London saying he didn't think the

:15:19.:15:21.

Government was going tonne undermine workers' rights which you will have

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heard in this programme first but threw go, it was repeated at Prime

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Minister's Questions. And now, Mr Corbyn went on to talk about the

:15:32.:15:35.

question of workers' rights, even though he had to deal with a

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surprised white paper, he had to deal with the unhelpful quote of the

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Labour Mayor of London on that. While we were doing PMQs, the Labour

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Party's been in touch to say that I said earlier that the one statement

:15:53.:15:57.

was withdrawn yesterday and replaced with another. Now, this is what

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actually happened. You can decide. At 9.43 a statement was issued by Mr

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Corbyn's office, it included "Labour will seek to build in the principles

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of full tariff-free access to the single market, and maintenance of

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workers' rights and social and environmental protections." Mr

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Corbyn himself, through his office at 10.16, half an hour later, then

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made, what was in effect an identical statement, but did not

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include these words about full tariff-free access on that.

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Now, whether the first statement was withdrawn or simply superceded by

:16:38.:16:41.

the second statement, I'll leave you to make up your mind but we're happy

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to clarify that's what happened. What did they make of PMQs? The

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guard good by the way has said this was the Prime Minister's best PMGs

:16:53.:16:54.

since she became Prime Minister. Well, at the risk of repetition of

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some of what you said, there was an echo of much of your summary in the

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e-mails that came N Martin says "It was as if the Daily Politics had a

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crystal ball PMQs today saw the confirmation that we will have a cut

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and Pease white paper." One prediction we got right. Ian says,

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"The worst session of PMQ that is Jeremy Corbyn has had. His attack

:17:20.:17:23.

was blunted by a Tory planted question on the white paper and

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destroyed completely when Mrs May used Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor's

:17:28.:17:32.

quote to shoot down his claims." Andrew says, "Mrs May declaring a

:17:33.:17:36.

white paper on Brexit #150e78d to flummox Jeremy Corbyn and he didn't

:17:37.:17:41.

seem to be able to respond, he had a scatter gun approach on various

:17:42.:17:44.

subjects with no question hitting home. -- seemed to flummox Jeremy

:17:45.:17:49.

Corbyn. They didn't feel he did W So, a

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white Paper? And a climb-down. Yesterday in the House, David Davis

:17:56.:18:00.

said it would be too difficult to do it in the time scale. Why a

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climb-down? Two parts - it is clever politically it takes one one of the

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likely amendments to the bill, before the bill is out, so avoids a

:18:09.:18:13.

potential defeat next week. Second of all, I just wonder if, having

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seen to be pretty consistently sort of taking more of the side of the

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Brexiteers in the Tory Party, it was felt perhaps it was time to give

:18:24.:18:27.

some kind of gesture to those... To the others. The Brexiteers have run

:18:28.:18:34.

most of the argument in the run-up to Mrs May's speech? And they were

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cock ahoop after Mrs May's speech. No question about that. But given

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last night they were told there would be no white paper. The sense

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from number ten, it was up their sleeves but not really to reveal it

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this is last-minute change of heart. And one senior Tory said to mee,

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welcome to the next two years, a very fluid process. So you knew the

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change was coming, why did the Government change its mind on a

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white paper? As I said. Very clear. We have been open about it. This was

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an issue process, in Westminster people get excited about but as I

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said earlier on, generally the viewers people out there want to see

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us getting on with delivering the plan the Prime Minister outlined.

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Why are you changing your mind? We didn't. You z yesterday David Davis

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said it would be too difficult to do it in the time. There will be a

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continued debate, the Government will look at this to make sure

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everybody... This is part of that process. I understand all that, but

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let me bring you back to the question for one last forlorn

:19:39.:19:40.

attempt. Yesterday David Davis told the House it would be too difficult

:19:41.:19:46.

to produce a white paper, 24 hours later, less than, the Prime Minister

:19:47.:19:49.

says there is going to be a white paper. What changed? Well, I think

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it is very, very simple in the fact that David Davis' team, the Brexit

:19:55.:19:57.

department and the Prime Minister, listening to people in the House of

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Commons, we should welcome the fact that the Government is listening to

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people and responding to that but the core point is this is a process

:20:03.:20:06.

we in Westminster get excited about. I understand that. But what people

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are interested in is delivering on Brexit and the plan the Prime

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Minister outlined at Lancaster House. So David Davis came away from

:20:14.:20:17.

the Commons yesterday and thought - oh, these were really strong

:20:18.:20:19.

arguments for a white paper. When I said there was no time for a white

:20:20.:20:24.

paper, that was really a stupid thing to say, let's have a white

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paper, that's what you are telling me? What the Prime Minister has

:20:28.:20:30.

outlined is we will publish a white paper. I got that. I'm trying to

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find out yu changed your mind. It is about delivering the right thing for

:20:36.:20:39.

the British people and doing in a way they can understand. I'm puzzled

:20:40.:20:43.

by Jeremy Corbyn's question to the Prime Minister about would she be

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prepared to pay to secure tariff-free access. Because the

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Prime Minister has said we won't be a member of the single market any

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more. A member. But she wants to do the best-possible free trade deal.

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But free trade deals do not avoid, involve paying for access. So why

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does he ask that question? Well, it is interesting because in response

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to a question in Brexit Questions a few weeks ago, David Davis said that

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the Government were considering that. So... No he didn't talk about

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that to secure access. He talked about there would be certain

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programmes that "We may wish to continue with", I think Arasmus may

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have been one. You mentioned other ones where you do have to pay a

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membership fee to get in, that's different to paying a generalised

:21:42.:21:44.

fee for access to the single market. So I say again, free trade deals and

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I have seen quite a few, the most recent one with Canada and the EU,

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free trade deals, by definition, do not involve paying for access to

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another market. Well, I #1257bd to be corrected, Andrew, I think that

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was what David Davis said a few weeks ago. But let me answer the

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question... Maybe he changed his mind. Let me answer the question he

:22:08.:22:11.

was struggling with. He changed his mind. He changed his mind a lot. The

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question Brandon was strug was clear, Theresa May recognised she

:22:19.:22:22.

was facing defeat, after yesterday, on Labour's first amendment. You

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asked me about what was bringing grit. Theresa May didn't want to

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concede a vote, she has been forced. She didn't want to publish a white

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paper, she has been forced much this is the grit Labour is bringing to

:22:35.:22:40.

the process by raising these issues. Finally, Laura, I would suggest she

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wasn't frightened of losing if she published a white paper but this

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makes it easier for her. No question. This was one of the

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questions where people on all parties were able to gather around.

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With this off the Type table it is hard to see what they can come up

:22:56.:22:59.

with next. In the big picture, what we have seen in the last couple of

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weeks, is a sense that people on the Remain side of the argument are

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really actually struggling to come up with concrete, convincing ways

:23:07.:23:10.

that they can actually try to nail the Government down and I think that

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certainly has been a feature. It is one of the interesting things,

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before Christmas, after the High Court decision, the Government was

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on the backfoo. Theresa May is on front foot this time. We should keep

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a score card of the changes. I'll have to go on, we need it squeeze

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another item in. Grammar schools in England

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are warning that they may ask parents for hundreds of pounds

:23:34.:23:35.

a year to cope with funding cuts. The Grammar School Heads'

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Association says that most money under the new national funding

:23:38.:23:40.

formula, which is due to be rolled out for schools in England

:23:41.:23:44.

later in this Parliament. Several Conservative MPs, whose

:23:45.:23:46.

constituencies will lose out under the plans, are unhappy and Labour

:23:47.:23:48.

are holding an Opposition Day Debate The Government announced

:23:49.:23:51.

the new formula last month and the Schools' Minister,

:23:52.:23:54.

Nick Gibb, appeared on this programme to explain

:23:55.:23:57.

the thinking behind it. What this has done -

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this national funding formula - is taken a series of principles

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that we consulted on for several widespread support from the people

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we approached and asked what their views were,

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because it is right to reflect the funding of schools based

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on deprivation, based on prior learning, based on how many

:24:17.:24:19.

children who speak English All those are key factors on how

:24:20.:24:22.

schools are now funded. It is much fairer and no other

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Government has grasped It is a very controversial

:24:26.:24:28.

thing to do. We decided we would do it,

:24:29.:24:31.

notwithstanding the other Joining me now is Graham Brady,

:24:32.:24:33.

Chairman of the Conservative 1922 Committee, and a vocal supporter

:24:34.:24:39.

of grammar schools. One of the schools, at trip ham in

:24:40.:24:48.

your constituency, is one of those asking for parental contributions on

:24:49.:24:49.

a voluntary basis. -- Altrchinham. It is in an of a

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fluent area. Isn't it rich for grammar schools to be pleading

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poverty? Well it isn't'ed have goo grammar school, it is my old school

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and I'm closely associated with it, still. This goes much, much wider

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than just grammar schools... Can we stick to grammar schools that's the

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issue we are talking about. ! I want to talk to it. That's the issue, I

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want to bring up that grammar school and my question. To put it in

:25:30.:25:33.

context the whole of the borough of Trafford, one of the worst-funded

:25:34.:25:36.

authorities for education in the country. One of the so-called F has

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40 groups, every single secondary school in the borough would be worse

:25:41.:25:45.

off under the draft funding formula. So whilst the principles that nick

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Gibb set out are entirely welcome, the real purpose of doing this is to

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raise the levels of funding in the lowest-funded areas. Those places

:25:57.:26:01.

where, for historical reasons, there are anomalies in funding but the

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problem is, this specific set of figures proposed don't work fairly,

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don't raise those badly-funded schools out of the bottom levels of

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funding. You set the context but you still haven't answered my question

:26:17.:26:20.

about grammar schools. Is it a bit rich for grammar schools, in an

:26:21.:26:23.

area, which is of a fluent, where they do have on average, fewer

:26:24.:26:28.

pupils who are entitled to free school meals or who maybe speak

:26:29.:26:33.

English as a second language or have special educational needs, that they

:26:34.:26:36.

should plead poverty over comprehensive schools in areas like

:26:37.:26:39.

Blackpool and Bolton, for example? This is why the context severing.

:26:40.:26:44.

That's why I pointed out that it is not just a school like the grammar

:26:45.:26:50.

school, it is like every school in Trafford. We have badly-funded

:26:51.:26:53.

schools, whether grammar schools, high schools or comprehensive

:26:54.:26:56.

schools in areas which historically have been underfunded which are

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seeing their funding cut if this formula goes ahead. I don't think

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this formula is going to go ahead in this form, because I think ministers

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understand that there are difficulties in what has been

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proposed and some of these anomalies are unsustainable. Let's ask Brandon

:27:13.:27:17.

Lewis, do you think it'll be dropped because of opposition that there

:27:18.:27:20.

just isn't enough money going into education Overall education is going

:27:21.:27:24.

up, at a record level just over ?40 billion. Hang on, the whole school

:27:25.:27:31.

system in England according to the National Audit Office, said they

:27:32.:27:35.

were facing a real terms cut of ?300 million. So it is wrong. . It is at

:27:36.:27:42.

record less. It is always at record levels. We put more, if you look at

:27:43.:27:48.

2010. It is now over ?40 million. A real term ut cut. It has gone up.

:27:49.:27:53.

But what Graham is saying the Government is doing a review to have

:27:54.:27:56.

a fair funding formula in consultation and I know the

:27:57.:27:59.

ministers will look at the feedback from that consultation, including

:28:00.:28:01.

Members of Parliament and schools, all over the country, not just in

:28:02.:28:05.

Cheshire. In ten seconds, Graham, Brady does

:28:06.:28:11.

it reassure you? It is reassuring, grammar schools also suffer, they

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have big sixth forms and they are the worst-funded part of a school,

:28:14.:28:19.

so they are cross subsidising from the 11-16 area, so it is another

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reason why it is a problem. There's just time to put you out

:28:22.:28:24.

of your misery and give It was 1989. Press the red button,

:28:25.:28:33.

please. Both of you. By partisan press there.

:28:34.:28:38.

Consensus at last. P The answer was 1989. David Lamb.

:28:39.:28:40.

Well done. The one o'clock news is starting

:28:41.:28:42.

over on BBC One now. Jo and I will be here

:28:43.:28:45.

at noon tomorrow with all the big political

:28:46.:28:47.

stories of the day. I do enjoy doing this, it's

:28:48.:28:49.

challenging brain surgery. You've got a very

:28:50.:28:59.

fragile-looking aneurysm.

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