28/06/2017 Daily Politics


28/06/2017

Similar Content

Browse content similar to 28/06/2017. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

Morning, folks - welcome to the Daily Politics.

:00:38.:00:41.

28 years after the Hillsborough Stadium disaster and an inquest that

:00:42.:00:45.

concluded the 96 victims were unlawfully killed -

:00:46.:00:53.

the Crown Prosecution Service say they are to bring charges

:00:54.:00:56.

against 6 people - we'll bring you the details.

:00:57.:00:58.

MPs prepare to vote on a Labour call for more police officers,

:00:59.:01:01.

firefighters and an end to the public sector pay cap -

:01:02.:01:03.

how will Theresa May fare in this first test

:01:04.:01:05.

It's the first Prime Minister's Questions of the new parliament -

:01:06.:01:11.

the main characters are the same - but has the election

:01:12.:01:13.

And Nicola Sturgeon reflects on the general election result -

:01:14.:01:19.

she still wants a second independence referendum -

:01:20.:01:21.

All that in the next 90 minutes and with us for the duration on this

:01:22.:01:34.

first Prime Minsiter's Questions of the new parliament

:01:35.:01:36.

is the Transport Secretary, Chris Grayling and the Shadow Brexit

:01:37.:01:38.

First this morning, as we come on air the Crown Prosecution Service

:01:39.:01:45.

have announced that they will bring criminal charges

:01:46.:01:47.

against individuals in relation to the Hillsborough Stadium

:01:48.:01:50.

Among them is the Chief Superintendent and the former Chief

:01:51.:02:09.

Constable of South Yorkshire, and the former Sheffield Wednesday club

:02:10.:02:12.

secretary. This is what Sue Hemming,

:02:13.:02:13.

Head of Special Crime at the CPS had to say in a statement that's

:02:14.:02:16.

just been released. At the turn of the year,

:02:17.:02:19.

the CPS received the first full files of evidence from Operation

:02:20.:02:21.

Resolve and the Independent Police Complaints Commission in relation

:02:22.:02:24.

to their investigations into the Hillsborough disaster

:02:25.:02:26.

and the events which followed. The Operation Resolve files

:02:27.:02:30.

comprised approximately 85,000 pages, and the IPCC

:02:31.:02:38.

South Yorkshire Police file Following these thorough

:02:39.:02:40.

investigations and our careful review of the evidence,

:02:41.:02:46.

in accordance with the code for Crown prosecutors,

:02:47.:02:48.

I have decided that there is sufficient evidence to charge six

:02:49.:02:53.

individuals with criminal offences. Your reaction? The important thing

:02:54.:03:08.

is not to say too much because there is clearly a trial to come. I hope

:03:09.:03:12.

the decision and the process that will follow will give an opportunity

:03:13.:03:20.

for the families to have real closure but whatever the outcome of

:03:21.:03:25.

the trial, it will have hopefully brought the truth into the open and

:03:26.:03:29.

it will give those families, who'd been through so much the years, a

:03:30.:03:35.

degree of closure. I hope it at least gives them satisfaction that

:03:36.:03:44.

proper process has been followed. We cannot talk too much about the

:03:45.:03:50.

charges, they've been announced. We can say that nobody will face

:03:51.:03:56.

corporate charges. All the defendants bar one will appear

:03:57.:04:02.

before magistrates on August nine. I due -- would you like to say

:04:03.:04:07.

something having heard this news? This will be welcomed by the

:04:08.:04:09.

families of the victims of Hillsborough. This is something

:04:10.:04:14.

they've wanted for many years. It has taken 20 years to get here and

:04:15.:04:20.

there will be many people reflecting on the length of time that has

:04:21.:04:24.

taken. There will be vindication for the families that they have kept

:04:25.:04:31.

this campaign alive and been relentless in their campaign to see

:04:32.:04:37.

justice. It is good that we are here, it is so sad that it has taken

:04:38.:04:44.

so long. They were told at a private meeting before it was made public.

:04:45.:04:46.

She promised strong and stable government.

:04:47.:04:48.

But instead Theresa May leads a depleted team

:04:49.:04:50.

Today - as she tries to get her Queen's speech through -

:04:51.:04:55.

she faces Jeremy Corbyn in the first Prime Minister's Questions

:04:56.:04:58.

So how will Mrs May's hung minority government work,

:04:59.:05:02.

what policies will it pursue and how will the opposition

:05:03.:05:04.

Here's Jo with the Daily Politics Minority Report.

:05:05.:05:12.

On Monday Theresa May signed a so-called "confidence and supply"

:05:13.:05:17.

deal with the Democratic Unionist Party.

:05:18.:05:20.

The government gets the support of the DUP on key votes

:05:21.:05:23.

in Parliament concerning the Queen's speech and Budget bills.

:05:24.:05:25.

In return for DUP support, Northern Ireland receives

:05:26.:05:27.

one billion pounds to fund infrastructure projects,

:05:28.:05:32.

improve broadband and relieve pressures on the health service

:05:33.:05:34.

Theresa May was also forced to abandon manifesto proposals

:05:35.:05:46.

to means-test the Winter Fuel allowance and changes to the

:05:47.:05:48.

The first test for May's minority government

:05:49.:05:55.

will be getting the Queen's speech through Parliament.

:05:56.:05:57.

It contains 27 bills - eight relating to Brexit.

:05:58.:05:59.

The UK's position remains that it will leave

:06:00.:06:05.

the single market and customs union with a time limited "transitional

:06:06.:06:08.

deal" to avoid a cliff-edge scenario when new arrangements kick in.

:06:09.:06:14.

Labour has tabled an amendment to the Queen's

:06:15.:06:16.

speech that calls for an end to austerity and the 1%

:06:17.:06:20.

and fire service in the recent terrorist attacks and at

:06:21.:06:27.

the Grenfell fire disaster - and calls for the recruitment

:06:28.:06:30.

off the Labour challenge with the help of DUP support.

:06:31.:06:41.

Thank you. Chris Grayling. By the time of the election, you had

:06:42.:06:50.

presided over seven years of austerity for the British people.

:06:51.:06:55.

You basically promised another five. The British people said, you're not

:06:56.:07:00.

on. Why were they wrong? Let's be clear what you mean about austerity.

:07:01.:07:07.

It means the nation living between its means. Within. Yes. We have

:07:08.:07:17.

sought to keep bringing the amount down, to stop passing debt to the

:07:18.:07:22.

next generation. It has been a difficult balance, there have been

:07:23.:07:29.

tough decisions. We have the lowest unemployment since the 1970s. The

:07:30.:07:34.

jobs picture has been beyond all my expectations. I could never have

:07:35.:07:38.

imagined we would make this progress. Austerity is a 1% public

:07:39.:07:45.

sector pay for some people at a time when inflation is 3%. That is

:07:46.:07:50.

austerity for public sector workers. We've had to take some tough

:07:51.:07:54.

decisions. We will need to think through what we do. But we've not

:07:55.:07:59.

shied away from tough decisions. It has been tough decisions for other

:08:00.:08:11.

people. It enables us to save public sector jobs. You were promising

:08:12.:08:20.

more. It was endless and relentless. During the election public sector

:08:21.:08:24.

workers were saying, we understood everybody had to tighten their

:08:25.:08:28.

belts, we did that, we've been on the front line. There's been a huge

:08:29.:08:32.

cut in public sector jobs as well. But they've had enough. And we are

:08:33.:08:40.

going to listen to the outcome of the referendum. -- the election.

:08:41.:08:45.

What does that mean, listen? We are not going to announce financial

:08:46.:08:48.

measures today. When you talk about the election. We had a disappointing

:08:49.:08:52.

result, we still increased our thoughts. We got more votes than

:08:53.:08:58.

Tony Blair dead. You are a minority government. I would hardly say it is

:08:59.:09:15.

success. I would not say we lost. With this government commits, for

:09:16.:09:23.

the rest of its life, not to cut police numbers any further? Two

:09:24.:09:32.

points, we are protecting police budgets and you will have heard the

:09:33.:09:36.

woman who runs the Fire Service saying she does not have a problem

:09:37.:09:42.

with the resources she's got. Will you commit to not cutting police or

:09:43.:09:45.

Fire Service numbers. You have cut them. We will announce in the

:09:46.:09:53.

budget, not in the Queen's speech debate. Philip Hammond says we are

:09:54.:10:00.

not deaf. That is what he said a day ago. If so, tell us what you are

:10:01.:10:13.

going to do. We've had three terrorist attacks in a row. We've

:10:14.:10:18.

had the worst public disaster since Hillsborough. Surely it stands to

:10:19.:10:29.

reason that police numbers will be protected? The police budget is

:10:30.:10:35.

being protected. Use a budget, I see numbers. You like they are the same

:10:36.:10:41.

thing. They are not. You can spend the budget on all sorts of other

:10:42.:10:47.

things. We are providing them with a budget which is protecting them. Are

:10:48.:10:56.

you just on the wrong side of the zeitgeist? Some gains have been

:10:57.:11:03.

made, but the deficit is still ?50 billion. Perhaps some tax rises to

:11:04.:11:15.

increase public spending is what the public demands? We've done two

:11:16.:11:24.

things on tax. People on lower incomes have been facing a policy of

:11:25.:11:32.

the kind you described. We've been cutting that year after year but

:11:33.:11:36.

we've also increased the taxation on the wealthiest. They pay a higher

:11:37.:11:41.

share of their income than was the case when Labour in power. You have

:11:42.:11:47.

not increased it. The result has been you've got more tax revenues.

:11:48.:11:57.

That is not government policy. It is the case that they are paying a

:11:58.:12:00.

higher share. Not because you've increased their taxes. What taxes

:12:01.:12:09.

have you put up for the rich? They pay a higher share of income today.

:12:10.:12:16.

I understand that. But you've said, we've put taxes up for the rich.

:12:17.:12:24.

What have you put up? We've put in tax avoidance measures which mean

:12:25.:12:30.

people paying a higher share of their income than they did under

:12:31.:12:43.

Labour. You found ?1 billion for the DUP. You found money to fill that

:12:44.:12:48.

hole as well. Where is your magic money tree hidden? Is it in the

:12:49.:12:55.

garden of Downing Street? We have a much sounder public finance than we

:12:56.:13:01.

did seven years ago. You still have the largest budget deficit of any

:13:02.:13:05.

major economy in Europe. Philip Hammond set in place policies with

:13:06.:13:13.

flexibility to allow us to invest in priorities and I make no apologies

:13:14.:13:17.

for investing in infrastructure in Northern Ireland which does not have

:13:18.:13:20.

the same quality in infrastructure. But you're basically using our money

:13:21.:13:26.

to prop up your government. It is not your money. We could well have

:13:27.:13:29.

said we should spend an extra billion and if we had done it

:13:30.:13:33.

through the country we could have had a 2% pay rise for NHS staff,

:13:34.:13:44.

16,000 new social homes, 71 new schools, one year of three primary

:13:45.:13:48.

schools. Instead it has gone to that part of the country that you need to

:13:49.:13:54.

prop you up. Yes, we are spending more money on infrastructure in

:13:55.:13:59.

Northern Ireland and also around the UK, we've got new roads. There are

:14:00.:14:10.

always new roads. In what way was austerity responsible for Grenfell

:14:11.:14:15.

Tower? I'm not saying it was. Some in the Labour Party have. I know,

:14:16.:14:20.

and I've heard what they've said. I think we need to wait for the

:14:21.:14:27.

enquiry to find out what was responsible and who is responsible.

:14:28.:14:31.

Can you give any reason that it was austerity? We know that it was a

:14:32.:14:36.

terrible tragedy and that we need to get to the bottom of it, but as a

:14:37.:14:41.

general consequence of austerity, what is the link between what you

:14:42.:14:45.

regard as austerity and what happened on that terrible night? It

:14:46.:14:51.

would appear, and I'm accepting we need an enquiry, that decisions were

:14:52.:14:55.

taken for financial reasons that led to that Tara being as unsafe as it

:14:56.:15:02.

was. We don't know that. We spent ?8 million on it. It was... It is not

:15:03.:15:11.

clear but it looks like it was spent wrongly, like wrong materials were

:15:12.:15:16.

used, like it is not unique at all to Grenfell Tower. That is not

:15:17.:15:22.

because it did not have money spent on it but it was spent on it in the

:15:23.:15:26.

wrong way. Indeed, and why did that not happen and why were those

:15:27.:15:34.

decisions made? It is culpability but not austerity. I will not make

:15:35.:15:37.

something up that suits me politically about something that was

:15:38.:15:42.

horrific. Have some of your colleagues gone too far? I think

:15:43.:15:44.

some of the language has. One of our missions is to clarify

:15:45.:15:52.

both the government and Labour position on Brexit, which isn't easy

:15:53.:15:58.

in either case. Let me show you this clip from the former Labour Europe

:15:59.:16:01.

minister, Caroline Flint, on the single market membership.

:16:02.:16:02.

Those who aim to keep us in the single market know full well

:16:03.:16:06.

that this is EU membership in all but name.

:16:07.:16:08.

Now, I promised to work for the best deal for jobs in Doncaster,

:16:09.:16:11.

to protect workers' rights, to end free movement as we know it

:16:12.:16:14.

And we can't spend the next 18 months looking like we're just

:16:15.:16:20.

scoring points to vote down every one of the Tories' EU bills.

:16:21.:16:24.

I think, if we do that, we will look like liars.

:16:25.:16:34.

Do you agree? I think that if we have a position which says, we want

:16:35.:16:39.

to maintain full membership as it currently exists of the single

:16:40.:16:44.

market, that would be the wrong position for the Labour Party to

:16:45.:16:47.

take and the wrong thing for the country to try and do. I think we

:16:48.:16:53.

need the fullest possible access and the government needs to be more

:16:54.:16:56.

ambitious in the way it negotiates that, because it seems to have

:16:57.:17:00.

backed off very quickly from trying to have full access and reform of

:17:01.:17:06.

freedom of movement. It wants a free trade agreement and it accepts or

:17:07.:17:10.

believes we cannot be members of the single market. My understanding is

:17:11.:17:15.

that is pretty close to the Labour position, is it not? It's been

:17:16.:17:19.

interesting watching the Tories over the last few weeks. Their position

:17:20.:17:22.

has come a bit closer to ours. They have moved to you? I think so. In

:17:23.:17:30.

January, the Prime Minister was saying that no deal is better than a

:17:31.:17:34.

bad deal. That seems to have been ditched. There is an acknowledgement

:17:35.:17:39.

that we are going to need some form of transitional arrangement. That

:17:40.:17:43.

wasn't the case previously. Now that seems to be accepted. The government

:17:44.:17:46.

is now saying, Philip Hammond has said that he wants jobs and the

:17:47.:17:51.

economy to be the first concern in the Brexit negotiations. This is

:17:52.:17:56.

welcome as well. Let's see how that plays out. It's at an early stage.

:17:57.:18:01.

Into interesting that you say that the integration now perhaps is that

:18:02.:18:05.

jobs should be more important in controlling immigration. We had a

:18:06.:18:10.

bit of a clear out but we found this from, I'm voting Labour, 7th of May

:18:11.:18:18.

2015, controls on immigration. Yes. Would you still like to drink out of

:18:19.:18:23.

that cup? I'd be proud to drink out of it! You need controls on

:18:24.:18:29.

immigration. We need rules and control, but rules and control that

:18:30.:18:34.

don't harm our industry and economy. We would agree on this. We want a

:18:35.:18:38.

broad ranging free trade agreement. We want sensible partnership and to

:18:39.:18:43.

be able to maintain controls on immigration, but not to starve

:18:44.:18:46.

business of the ability to recruit when it meets too, so should be

:18:47.:18:49.

standing side-by-side for the I'd hope that Jenny and her colleagues

:18:50.:18:53.

would... What is more important to you, getting down to your 100,000

:18:54.:18:58.

target, which I still think is your policy, or jobs for the economy? We

:18:59.:19:04.

can debate the immigration mechanisms, and we can have our

:19:05.:19:08.

divisions over them, but if we agree that we need controls, we have to

:19:09.:19:13.

leave the single market and make sure that Brexit works well. We

:19:14.:19:17.

could do this more effectively if Labour simply supported it. We are

:19:18.:19:22.

going to move on, because that had nothing... It's an interesting

:19:23.:19:24.

answer which had nothing to do with what I asked.

:19:25.:19:27.

Now - after the election, the Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn said

:19:28.:19:30.

that the Conservative Party, not Labour, had "lost"

:19:31.:19:32.

and since then Mr Corbyn and his allies have certainly been

:19:33.:19:35.

But some of the language from the Labour leader and his key

:19:36.:19:40.

After the Grenfell Tower disaster, the former Labour

:19:41.:19:47.

frontbencher Clive Lewis posted a tweet saying: "Burn

:19:48.:19:49.

And the Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell told an audience

:19:50.:19:56.

at Glastonbury that the people who died in the Grenfell Tower

:19:57.:19:59.

fire were "murdered by political decisions".

:20:00.:20:01.

The senior Labour backbencher Margaret Hodge

:20:02.:20:11.

criticised Mr McDonnell - she said "That is language

:20:12.:20:13.

of the hard left which is not done in my name".

:20:14.:20:16.

And even John Healey, who sits in the Shadow Cabinet

:20:17.:20:18.

with John McDonnell, said: "I wouldn't use

:20:19.:20:20.

While Jeremy Corbyn was at Glastonbury he told

:20:21.:20:23.

the festival's founder, Michael Eavis, that he would

:20:24.:20:25.

be in Downing Street in just "six months" time.

:20:26.:20:28.

He said he would abolish the Trident nuclear deterrent

:20:29.:20:30.

And John McDonnell has also said that he wants to see

:20:31.:20:34.

"a million" people take to the streets for a march

:20:35.:20:36.

in London this Saturday, in order to ensure that the next

:20:37.:20:39.

election comes "as early as possible".

:20:40.:20:49.

We have touched on this, but the claim by the Shadow Chancellor that

:20:50.:20:55.

victims who died in the Grenfell Tower fire had been murdered by

:20:56.:21:01.

political decisions, would you use that language? I wouldn't. The legal

:21:02.:21:05.

definition of murder wouldn't be met by what happened. But John is very

:21:06.:21:10.

angry, as are a lot of people. He is for using colourful language. He

:21:11.:21:16.

feels very strongly about this. And he used language he did. It isn't

:21:17.:21:21.

something I would have said. Should he retract it? To say that people

:21:22.:21:27.

have been murdered by political decisions is pointing the finger of

:21:28.:21:30.

blame very squarely on people before we know any of the answers to what

:21:31.:21:36.

happened at Grenfell. You'd have to put that to him, not me. It isn't

:21:37.:21:41.

something I would have set myself. He is responsible for what he says.

:21:42.:21:45.

It isn't unusual for John to use these kinds of rhetoric. It does

:21:46.:21:50.

occasionally get him into difficulty, but he is the one who

:21:51.:21:55.

needs to account for that. Is the Shadow Chancellor. Clive Lewis,

:21:56.:21:59.

another of your colleagues, said Bernd neoliberalism, not people,

:22:00.:22:03.

implying that deliberately people are being burned. -- said burn

:22:04.:22:11.

neoliberalism. There is real anger out there about what happened and

:22:12.:22:13.

not just among people directly affected. People in my constituency

:22:14.:22:19.

see what happened and are very angry. They feel that people are in

:22:20.:22:23.

a situation where the authorities should have been more mindful of

:22:24.:22:26.

their safety and they weren't, and there is a natural, human response

:22:27.:22:31.

to that, which is anger. Sometimes, people get carried away and they

:22:32.:22:36.

will use language which, in the cold light of day, you might not choose,

:22:37.:22:40.

but that is a human response. I should think that everybody was

:22:41.:22:45.

angry about it, but is it anger or is it politicising what is a

:22:46.:22:50.

terrible tragedy? I think people who say that we shouldn't have any

:22:51.:22:53.

politics in our thoughts around this are wrong as well. There were

:22:54.:22:58.

clearly decisions made by people who are in elected office that had an

:22:59.:23:02.

effect on what happened that night. As I said before, it would be wrong

:23:03.:23:08.

to say which decisions and who is responsible and what should happen

:23:09.:23:14.

to them at this stage... It could be successive government and councils.

:23:15.:23:18.

Yes, but to say there is no politics in this is wrong. It was a private

:23:19.:23:23.

conversation but it has been widely reported and not denied, but Mr

:23:24.:23:27.

Corbyn told the founder of Glastonbury, according to him, that

:23:28.:23:30.

he plans to scrap Trident as soon as possible if he were to become Prime

:23:31.:23:34.

Minister, which he thought would happen in six months. Is that what

:23:35.:23:40.

Jeremy Corbyn has told you and Labour MPs? It isn't. It is great he

:23:41.:23:43.

is feeling so confident, and he is a man with a mojo right now, but our

:23:44.:23:48.

position on Trident is settled and we would keep the nuclear deterrent,

:23:49.:23:52.

and I think that ship has sailed because we have voted on it. So, you

:23:53.:23:57.

know... Has the mood changed in Labour? Is it a confident package?

:23:58.:24:04.

It is. When you think about where we were six or three months ago, we are

:24:05.:24:07.

in a much better place. The election took us to somewhere we didn't

:24:08.:24:13.

expect to be. We gained seats, the Tories lost their majority but this

:24:14.:24:18.

is progress, but we have a hell of a job to win those 62 seats we need to

:24:19.:24:21.

form the next government. That is what we will focus on. How is your

:24:22.:24:30.

mojo? It's always been top notch! I lost mine after ten hours of

:24:31.:24:34.

election results. That careless of you.

:24:35.:24:36.

Now, gardeners at Her Majesty's Treasury are expecting a bumper

:24:37.:24:38.

harvest this year after peculiarly favourable growing conditions

:24:39.:24:40.

for the tree species arbor pecuniae magicae -

:24:41.:24:44.

or to give it its common name, the Magic Money Tree.

:24:45.:24:48.

Much of the crop is being harvested and sent to Belfast.

:24:49.:24:53.

We have no pecuniary interest in any windfall notes that might

:24:54.:24:58.

find their way to the Daily Politics studio, but there's only

:24:59.:25:01.

one thing more sought after here in Westminster

:25:02.:25:05.

than the votes of Northern Irish MPs...

:25:06.:25:09.

Now, of course, we don't take bribes - although the infrastructure

:25:10.:25:18.

round here is starting to feel a bit tatty...

:25:19.:25:20.

We wouldn't mind that! This is the product of austerity, as you can

:25:21.:25:32.

see. A new sofa that much. Or one of those posh desks that

:25:33.:25:35.

Huw Edwards has got - Instead of the ones we got from Blue

:25:36.:25:38.

Peter 40 years ago. Just a thought. We'll let you have our bank account

:25:39.:25:50.

details in a moment - otherwise can you guess

:25:51.:25:53.

when this happened? # Look at my life, look in my heart

:25:54.:26:00.

I have seen it fall apart # Go on, go on

:26:01.:26:06.

Come on, leave my breathless...# He says it's time for someone else

:26:07.:26:19.

to lead the party into the next general and Scottish

:26:20.:26:22.

Parliamentary elections. # I played with your heart

:26:23.:26:25.

Got lost in the game # Oops, you think I'm in love

:26:26.:26:33.

That I'm sent from above # You can try to resist

:26:34.:26:42.

Try to hide from my kiss # But you know, but you know that

:26:43.:26:50.

you can't fight the moonlight # Deep in the dark

:26:51.:26:55.

You'll surrender your heart # But you know, you know that you

:26:56.:27:00.

can't fight the moonlight, no...# # Don't think that I'm not strong

:27:01.:27:07.

I'm the one to take you on # Don't underestimate me, boy

:27:08.:27:10.

I'll make you sorry you were born # You don't know me

:27:11.:27:14.

the way you really should # You got to know that,

:27:15.:27:18.

baby, that will never do # It's time you knew

:27:19.:27:27.

I'm not your baby # I belong to me,

:27:28.:27:33.

don't call me baby...# To be in with a chance of winning

:27:34.:27:37.

a Daily Politics mug, send your answer to our special quiz

:27:38.:27:39.

email address - that's Entries must arrive by 12.30 today,

:27:40.:27:42.

and you can see the full terms and conditions for Guess The Year

:27:43.:27:46.

on our website - that's The compliance department has just

:27:47.:28:04.

kicked another box! It's a big department.

:28:05.:28:04.

It's coming up to midday here - just take a look at Big Ben -

:28:05.:28:08.

and that can mean only one thing: Yes, Prime Minister's

:28:09.:28:10.

The first PMQs of this new parliament.

:28:11.:28:13.

Jeremy Corbyn will still be asking the questions and Theresa May

:28:14.:28:16.

will still be answering them - but having lost the government's

:28:17.:28:26.

majority - how has her own party's view of her changed?

:28:27.:28:30.

I think she's in very difficult place.

:28:31.:28:31.

She's a remarkable and she's a very talented woman,

:28:32.:28:33.

and she doesn't shy from difficult decisions, but she now has

:28:34.:28:36.

Do you think Theresa May is fatally damaged after this result?

:28:37.:28:41.

Does she still have your support, Boris?

:28:42.:28:43.

It's just how long she's going to remain on death row.

:28:44.:28:50.

I don't think it's very seemly to dance on Theresa May's grave.

:28:51.:28:54.

She won, you know, the biggest share of the vote since,

:28:55.:28:57.

I think, the 1987 election, for over 30 years.

:28:58.:29:03.

There's no crisis about this government.

:29:04.:29:09.

It's very clear that she is a good Prime Minister.

:29:10.:29:13.

I'm completely backing Theresa May as our Prime Minister.

:29:14.:29:25.

You'd want a second opinion, wouldn't you? No crisis, says David

:29:26.:29:33.

Davis. I wonder who he could be referring to! Joining us now, the

:29:34.:29:40.

star of stage, screen and the public prints, the BBC's political editor.

:29:41.:29:46.

What we haven't talked about this morning, what are Labour's tactics

:29:47.:29:51.

now towards the Queen's Speech? In a hung parliament, this becomes much

:29:52.:29:55.

more interesting than if the Tories had a 100 seat majority. Of course,

:29:56.:30:00.

and I think the Labour tactic in its simplest terms is to try and keep

:30:01.:30:04.

the momentum going that they created in the general election campaign.

:30:05.:30:08.

For example, today, they are putting down an amendment to try and scrap

:30:09.:30:12.

the public sector pay cap, knowing full well they probably don't have

:30:13.:30:16.

the votes to do that, but it allows them to keep putting political

:30:17.:30:19.

pressure on in the areas they believe worked for them in the

:30:20.:30:24.

campaign. Of course, for Jenny or the other new Labour MPs elected,

:30:25.:30:28.

they can go back to their constituencies this weekend and say,

:30:29.:30:31.

we tried to get this public sector pay cap scrapped and the Tories and

:30:32.:30:35.

their friends in the DUP stopped us, even though we've heard from some

:30:36.:30:39.

Tory Cabinet minister 's acknowledgement that maybe the

:30:40.:30:42.

public sector pay cap has to change. This is campaigning in Parliament,

:30:43.:30:47.

really, in a way that Jeremy Corbyn just didn't try and do in the

:30:48.:30:51.

previous session. Is their refuelling at the top of the Labour

:30:52.:30:56.

Party that the sooner there is another election better? -- is there

:30:57.:30:59.

a feeling. This is a good time for Labour. They are still 40, 50 seat

:31:00.:31:04.

behind the Tories, but the tide seems to be going their way a bit,

:31:05.:31:10.

as Mrs Sturgeon out at a bit, Nicola Sturgeon in Scotland, it doesn't

:31:11.:31:14.

always last. And as quickly as a search can sweep in, it can sweep

:31:15.:31:19.

out again. When we talk to people privately, the first thing they want

:31:20.:31:23.

to discuss is whether or not there will be an early general election.

:31:24.:31:26.

Like everybody else in Westminster, they are trying to work out what the

:31:27.:31:30.

chances really are. It may not be as high as popular opinion would

:31:31.:31:36.

suggest. That's right, and in the immediate aftermath of the election,

:31:37.:31:40.

at about 4am on election night, calling basically for Theresa May to

:31:41.:31:45.

go, that febrile mood has subsided quite a lot, I think. Most Tory MPs

:31:46.:31:51.

have now looked into the abyss, as it were, looking at Labour on the

:31:52.:31:55.

up, looking at themselves, wondering how they are going to go on, and the

:31:56.:31:59.

mood of something immediate has gone.

:32:00.:32:43.

People putting Labour Party posters on my home, photographing them and

:32:44.:32:48.

pushing them through my letterbox. Somebody even your naked on my

:32:49.:32:55.

office door. Hardly a kinder, gentler politics. -- somebody even

:32:56.:33:06.

if you were naked. -- urinated. It may be putting off people from

:33:07.:33:13.

serving in this place. My honourable friend is absolutely right to raise

:33:14.:33:16.

this issue, and she wasn't the only person that experienced this sort of

:33:17.:33:20.

intimidation during the election campaign. Particularly, I'm sorry to

:33:21.:33:28.

say, this sort of intimidation was experienced by female candidates

:33:29.:33:32.

during the election campaign. I believe that this sort of behaviour

:33:33.:33:38.

has no place in our democracy. And I think she's right. I think it could

:33:39.:33:44.

put good people off from serving in this house. We want more people to

:33:45.:33:48.

become engaged, more people to want to stand for election to this house,

:33:49.:33:53.

and I think particularly as I stand here and I see the plaque that has

:33:54.:33:57.

been dedicated to the late Jo Cox that we should all remember what Jo

:33:58.:34:02.

said, we are far more united and have far more in common with each

:34:03.:34:05.

other then the things which divide us. Mr Speaker, I welcome the

:34:06.:34:11.

announcement by the Crown Prosecution Service this morning

:34:12.:34:15.

that they are going to prosecute six people in relation to Hillsborough.

:34:16.:34:19.

This prosecution, the enquiry and this development only happened

:34:20.:34:25.

because of the incredible work done by the Hillsborough justice

:34:26.:34:27.

campaign, Andy Burnham, Steve Rotherham and other colleagues about

:34:28.:34:31.

this house, and I think we should pay tribute to all of those that

:34:32.:34:37.

spend a great deal of time trying to ensure there was justice for those

:34:38.:34:45.

that died at Hillsborough. Mr Speaker, 79 people died in Grenfell

:34:46.:34:49.

Tower. Our thoughts are with the families and friends of those that

:34:50.:34:52.

have died. Those still unaccounted for and those who are going to live

:34:53.:35:02.

with the trauma of this hoary thick -- horrendous and avoidable tragedy.

:35:03.:35:05.

Last Thursday, the Prime Minister said she expected to appoint a judge

:35:06.:35:10.

to chair the enquiry in the next few days. We haven't heard any more. Can

:35:11.:35:14.

she update the house when an appointment will be made and what

:35:15.:35:17.

will be the timetable for the enquiry. May I first of all I -- say

:35:18.:35:27.

that I think we are all welcoming but after so many years of waiting,

:35:28.:35:31.

the Hillsborough families and those different groups within

:35:32.:35:36.

Hillsborough, not just the Justice campaign, the family that came

:35:37.:35:39.

together and the work done by Margaret Aspinall and others, has

:35:40.:35:46.

been absolutely exemplary. And I'm sure obviously today will be a day

:35:47.:35:49.

of mixed emotions for them, that I welcome the fact that charging

:35:50.:35:55.

decisions have been taken. I think that is an important step forward.

:35:56.:35:59.

The right Honourable gentleman asked me to update him in regards Grenfell

:36:00.:36:03.

Tower. I would like to update the house on a number of aspects. We all

:36:04.:36:09.

know what an unimaginable tragedy this was and our thoughts will be

:36:10.:36:12.

with those who have been affected by it. As of this morning, the cladding

:36:13.:36:22.

in 30 areas has been tested and it has failed the combustibility test.

:36:23.:36:29.

Given the 100% failure rate, we are clear that they should not wait for

:36:30.:36:33.

test results but get on with the job of fire safety checks. You should

:36:34.:36:38.

take any action necessary and the government will support them in

:36:39.:36:43.

doing that. The community secretary has set up an independent advisory

:36:44.:36:46.

panel to advise on the measures that need to be taken, which is meeting

:36:47.:36:55.

this week. On the housing offer, 282 good-quality temporary properties

:36:56.:36:58.

have been identified. 132 families have had their needs assessed, and

:36:59.:37:03.

65 offers of temporary accommodation have already been made to families.

:37:04.:37:11.

The payment from the funds, those payments continue. As of this

:37:12.:37:17.

morning, nearly one point -- one 25p has been paid. We are giving an

:37:18.:37:22.

extra ?2 million to the local consortium of charities that has

:37:23.:37:28.

been doing so much important work. On the issue of the public enquiry,

:37:29.:37:34.

I expect to be able to name a judge soon. The process is that the Lord

:37:35.:37:39.

Chief Justice recommends the name of a judge. What we want to do is make

:37:40.:37:48.

sure as the process is going forward, the families, the

:37:49.:37:54.

survivors, have involvement. I thank the Prime Minister for that answer

:37:55.:37:58.

but I hope she is able to stick to her promise of everyone being

:37:59.:38:01.

rehoused within three weeks because at the moment it does not look

:38:02.:38:04.

anything like that target will be achieved. She, I hope, understand

:38:05.:38:09.

the fear that so many people have living in power blocs all around the

:38:10.:38:18.

country. In 2017, the all-party fire safety group said, today's buildings

:38:19.:38:23.

have a much higher content of readily available combustible

:38:24.:38:26.

material. There have been contradictory messages from the

:38:27.:38:29.

government. Can the Prime Minister give a clear answer, is cladding

:38:30.:38:36.

with a combustible core illegal and was the cladding of Grenfell Tower

:38:37.:38:47.

legal? The situation is, in relation to the cladding, the building

:38:48.:38:49.

regulations identify the cladding which is compatible and that which

:38:50.:38:56.

is noncompliant. My understanding is this particular cladding was not

:38:57.:39:00.

complying with the building regulations. This raises wider

:39:01.:39:08.

issues and it is important that we are careful in how we talk about

:39:09.:39:15.

this. There is a criminal investigation taking place and it is

:39:16.:39:19.

important that we allow the police to do that and take the decision

:39:20.:39:22.

that they need to take. But there is a much wider issue here. As we have

:39:23.:39:28.

seen from the number of buildings where the cladding has failed the

:39:29.:39:33.

combustibility test, from those samples sent in from local

:39:34.:39:37.

authorities already, this is a much wider issue, it is an issue that has

:39:38.:39:42.

been continuing for many years, for decades, in terms of cladding being

:39:43.:39:46.

put up in buildings. There are real questions as to how this has

:39:47.:39:50.

happened, why this has happened, and how we can ensure that it does not

:39:51.:39:54.

happen in the future. That's why I'm clear that in addition to the

:39:55.:39:59.

enquiry that needs to identify the specific issues for Grenfell Tower,

:40:00.:40:03.

what happened in relation to Grenfell Tower and who was

:40:04.:40:06.

responsible, we will also need to look much more widely at why it is

:40:07.:40:11.

that over decades, under different governments, under different

:40:12.:40:19.

councils, material has been put up on these power blocs that is

:40:20.:40:21.

noncompliant with building regulations. There is a very wide

:40:22.:40:31.

issue here. -- tower blocks. Last birthday the Prime Minister told the

:40:32.:40:34.

member for Leeds Central that she would make the results of the

:40:35.:40:37.

Grenfell Tower cladding testing public within 48 hours. I'm not sure

:40:38.:40:42.

if she has actually done that with her statement today. As of

:40:43.:40:48.

yesterday, and the Prime Minister has confirmed this, 120 high-rise

:40:49.:40:52.

blocks have had fire safety tests and feel Ben. -- failed them. What

:40:53.:41:00.

timetable has the Prime Minister set for such tests to be completed

:41:01.:41:05.

including schools and hospitals, and what plans does she have to compel

:41:06.:41:10.

the testing of high risers such as office blocks and hotels which may

:41:11.:41:16.

also have combustible cladding on them? If I can just say, my

:41:17.:41:22.

understanding was the police are going to make a statement and I

:41:23.:41:29.

think the police made a statement about the possession. In relation to

:41:30.:41:34.

the test, my message is a very simple one. As I said in my answer

:41:35.:41:38.

to his first question, what we are seeing two people is this is not a

:41:39.:41:44.

question of waiting for the tests. Don't wait until you've got a sample

:41:45.:41:50.

in. So far, 100% of the samples have proved to be combustible sole work

:41:51.:41:55.

on the assumption that you should be doing the test now. That's what we

:41:56.:42:01.

are telling people to do. Parts of the private sector are also doing

:42:02.:42:07.

their work but my response to all those who have buildings covered by

:42:08.:42:11.

this is do the fire safety checks with the Fire Service. Take any

:42:12.:42:18.

measures that are necessary and the government will support you in doing

:42:19.:42:25.

that. Since 2010 only a third of new schools have had sprinkler systems

:42:26.:42:30.

installed soap parents are quite rightly unsure about the safety of

:42:31.:42:34.

their children. A letter formally recommended that the government

:42:35.:42:41.

inform suppliers to consider retrofitting sprinklers. It was

:42:42.:42:46.

reported that 1% of council tower blocks had sprinklers fitted. Can

:42:47.:42:51.

the Prime Minister let us know what the government actually did to

:42:52.:42:55.

encourage retrofitting during the last four years? The government did

:42:56.:43:02.

ensure that local authorities were aware of the recommendations. They

:43:03.:43:08.

did act on that recommendation. But I say to the Right Honourable

:43:09.:43:12.

gentleman if we look at what has happened, and the identification of

:43:13.:43:15.

the issues in a number of tower blocks so far, their -- there are

:43:16.:43:22.

various issues that lead to concerns about fire safety. If we look at

:43:23.:43:27.

Camden, one of the five blocks was considered to be habitable but four

:43:28.:43:33.

were not. That was not just because of the cladding, it was because of

:43:34.:43:38.

other issues in relation for example to the gas rise. These issues raised

:43:39.:43:43.

wider questions about the inspections that have taken place,

:43:44.:43:50.

about residents complaints, voices not being heard. That is an issue

:43:51.:43:57.

that has been raised at Grenfell Tower. It is also in Camden. This is

:43:58.:44:04.

a much wider question. A terrible tragedy took place. People lost

:44:05.:44:08.

their lives who should never have lost their lives. We need to look at

:44:09.:44:13.

what has happened over decades in this country. Building regulations

:44:14.:44:22.

have not been overhauled, local authorities, whilst asked to act

:44:23.:44:27.

upon them, have had their budgets cut by 40%. Under her predecessor,

:44:28.:44:34.

fire safety audits and inspections work at by a quarter. Fire authority

:44:35.:44:41.

budgets were cut by a quarter. Can the Prime Minister give an assurance

:44:42.:44:46.

to the house that the further 20% cut to the Fire Service planned by

:44:47.:44:57.

2020 will be halted? I say to the right honourable gentleman that, in

:44:58.:45:01.

his reference to the building regulations, I think he has missed

:45:02.:45:04.

part of the point, which is that it is not just a question of what laws

:45:05.:45:09.

you have, it's how those are being applied, and that is the issue. We

:45:10.:45:15.

have the building regulations about compliant materials. The question

:45:16.:45:22.

is, why is it that, despite that, we have seen in local authority area

:45:23.:45:26.

after local authority area materials being put up that appear not to

:45:27.:45:29.

comply with those building regulations. And he talks about...

:45:30.:45:37.

That is what we need to get the bottom of, why is that fire

:45:38.:45:41.

inspections, that local authority inspections seem to have missed this

:45:42.:45:49.

essential issue. I think I can help the Prime Minister with this issue.

:45:50.:45:52.

When you cut local authority expenditure by 40%, you end up with

:45:53.:46:03.

fewer building control inspectors... SHOUTING.

:46:04.:46:10.

Order! It's pretty bad when people shout. For somebody to be sitting

:46:11.:46:15.

right by the Speaker's chair and shouting displays, let's say, a lack

:46:16.:46:18.

of wisdom which should not be repeated. Order. Every member in

:46:19.:46:23.

this chamber must and will be heard, however long the session has to run.

:46:24.:46:32.

Jeremy Corbyn. I was simply making the point, which seems to have upset

:46:33.:46:36.

a lot of members opposite, that when you cut local authority budgets by

:46:37.:46:39.

40% we all pay a price in public safety. Fewer inspectors, fewer

:46:40.:46:49.

building control inspectors, planning inspectors. We pay a price.

:46:50.:46:55.

And, Mr Speaker, those cuts to the Fire Service have meant there are

:46:56.:47:00.

11,000 fewer firefighters. The public sector pay cap is hitting

:47:01.:47:07.

recruitment and retention right across the public sector. What the

:47:08.:47:11.

tragedy of Grenfell Tower is exposed is a disastrous effects of

:47:12.:47:19.

austerity. RENEWED SHOUTING.

:47:20.:47:29.

Mr Speaker. This disregard for working-class communities, the

:47:30.:47:30.

terrible consequences of deregulation and cutting corners. I

:47:31.:47:36.

urge the Prime Minister to come up with the resources needed to test

:47:37.:47:44.

and remove planning, retrofit sprinklers, properly fund the Fire

:47:45.:47:48.

Service and the police so that all our communities can truly feel safe

:47:49.:47:55.

in their own homes. Mr Speaker, this disaster must be a wake-up call.

:47:56.:48:00.

CHEERING .

:48:01.:48:06.

The cladding of tower blocks didn't start under this government. It

:48:07.:48:11.

didn't start under the previous coalition government. The cladding

:48:12.:48:16.

of tower block began under the Blair government. The right honourable

:48:17.:48:27.

gentleman talks about local authority resources, and he talks

:48:28.:48:34.

about changes to the regulation. In 2005, it was a Labour government

:48:35.:48:36.

that introduced the regulatory reform fire safety order, which

:48:37.:48:44.

changed the requirement to inspect a building on fire safety from the

:48:45.:48:48.

local fire authority, which was usually the Fire Brigade, to a

:48:49.:48:52.

responsible person. The legislation governing fire safety in tower

:48:53.:48:57.

blocks, and this was commented on by the lack in all house report into

:48:58.:49:04.

that fire, it criticised that 2005 order which had been put in place by

:49:05.:49:11.

the Labour government. Order. The Prime Minister's answer must be

:49:12.:49:16.

heard. What approach and laws which took effect in 2006 ended the

:49:17.:49:24.

practice of routine fire inspections, passing the

:49:25.:49:26.

responsibility to councils. That is why I say to the right honourable

:49:27.:49:31.

gentleman, this should be an issue that across this house we recognise

:49:32.:49:36.

is a matter that has been developing over decades, is a matter that has

:49:37.:49:41.

occurred under governments of both colours, councils of all political

:49:42.:49:44.

persuasions, and is something which I would hope we would say we should

:49:45.:49:55.

come together and ensure that we... NOISE IN THE HOUSE.

:49:56.:50:01.

We get to the answers of why this has happened over the years, what

:50:02.:50:05.

has gone wrong and how we stop it from happening in the future. Order.

:50:06.:50:13.

Understandably, on this most solemn and sensitive matters, the front

:50:14.:50:15.

bench exchanges have been, perhaps inevitably and rightly, very

:50:16.:50:20.

pensive. I am now keen that all backbenchers scheduled to take part

:50:21.:50:25.

should have the opportunity. -- very comprehensive. Businesses in my

:50:26.:50:33.

constituency share the Prime Minister's desire to provide

:50:34.:50:35.

certainty for trade arrangements in the years immediately following our

:50:36.:50:39.

exit from the EU. In my right honourable friend confirm that any

:50:40.:50:42.

transitional arrangements will be for a strictly time-limited period

:50:43.:50:46.

and that any suggestion of ever retweeting deadlines or perpetual

:50:47.:50:51.

status quo would fall short of honouring the decision made by the

:50:52.:50:54.

people of this country to leave the EU? My honourable friend is

:50:55.:51:00.

absolutely right. For very practical reasons, when we know what the

:51:01.:51:05.

future relationship with the EU will be, we may need implementation

:51:06.:51:07.

periods. That will be to ensure that the practical arrangements can be

:51:08.:51:11.

put in place for that new relationship. But I am very clear

:51:12.:51:15.

that this doesn't mean unlimited transitional phase. We are going to

:51:16.:51:19.

leave the EU, that's what people wanted and that's what we will

:51:20.:51:25.

deliver. Can I welcome the announcement of the prosecutions on

:51:26.:51:29.

Hillsborough, and congratulate the families and all those involved in

:51:30.:51:33.

the many years of campaigning. Mr Speaker, the Scottish Secretary

:51:34.:51:37.

insisted that Scotland would see increased funding if the DUP secured

:51:38.:51:43.

money for Northern Ireland as part of a confidence and supply deal,

:51:44.:51:50.

insisting, quote, I'm not going to agree to anything that could be

:51:51.:51:53.

constructed as back door funding to Northern Ireland. Did the Prime

:51:54.:51:58.

Minister received any representations from the Scottish

:51:59.:52:01.

Secretary about the DUP deal, either before or after it was signed? I say

:52:02.:52:08.

to the honourable gentleman that, of course, when we look at what has

:52:09.:52:11.

happened in terms of funding for the rest of the UK, in the Autumn

:52:12.:52:16.

Statement last year, my right honourable friend, the Chancellor,

:52:17.:52:20.

set aside an infrastructure fund of ?23 billion. We are putting more

:52:21.:52:25.

money into our NHS, more money into our schools, and of course there is

:52:26.:52:29.

an impact on Scotland as a result of that Autumn Statement. ?800 million

:52:30.:52:33.

extra spending is going to Scotland. As a result of the budget, ?350

:52:34.:52:37.

million extra is going to Scotland. I don't remember when that money was

:52:38.:52:41.

announced the honourable gentleman complaining about more money should

:52:42.:52:47.

be going to Northern Ireland. But then, of course, he is a nationalist

:52:48.:52:58.

and not a unionist. Mr Speaker, the Prime Minister's failure to give a

:52:59.:53:02.

straight answer to that question speaks volumes.

:53:03.:53:08.

NOISE IN THE HOUSE. Order. Let's hear the fellow. Mr Ian

:53:09.:53:18.

Blackford. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Prime Minister's failure to give

:53:19.:53:22.

a straight answer to that question speaks volumes and has only

:53:23.:53:24.

succeeded in piling more pressure on the Scottish Secretary, whose

:53:25.:53:32.

position looks less secure with every day that passes. The

:53:33.:53:37.

honourable gentleman's question, and I think he is reaching it, must be

:53:38.:53:45.

heard. I will give the Prime Minister one more opportunity. Did

:53:46.:53:51.

she receive any representations about the DUP deal from the

:53:52.:53:54.

Secretary of State for Scotland, yes or no? I can assure the honourable

:53:55.:54:00.

gentleman that I regularly receive representations from the Secretary

:54:01.:54:06.

of State for Scotland about matters relating to Scotland, including

:54:07.:54:09.

regular representations which point out that, if the Scottish

:54:10.:54:12.

Nationalists actually had the interests of Scotland at heart, they

:54:13.:54:19.

would want to remain part of the UK. Given that rail passengers in my

:54:20.:54:23.

constituency of Lewis are once again facing rail misery with an overtime

:54:24.:54:27.

ban and strike action looming, does the Prime Minister not agree with me

:54:28.:54:31.

that the only way to end the 18 months rail misery for my

:54:32.:54:34.

constituents and all passengers on Southern Rail is for the unions to

:54:35.:54:37.

stop their strike and get back round the table? My honourable friend is

:54:38.:54:45.

absolutely right. Southern Rail passengers have experienced

:54:46.:54:47.

absolutely unacceptable delays and disruption to their service, and an

:54:48.:54:51.

expert report has found that the main cause of widespread disruption

:54:52.:54:58.

was union action. So, for the sake of the passengers, get round the

:54:59.:55:02.

table and solve this dispute. Can I thank the Prime Minister for coming

:55:03.:55:07.

to my constituency of Wrexham during the general election campaign? And

:55:08.:55:13.

for making a widely welcomed U-turn on the dementia tax. Can I invite

:55:14.:55:19.

the Prime Minister backs of Wrexham to make another announcement

:55:20.:55:25.

reversing her appalling cuts to police budgets, which my

:55:26.:55:30.

constituents want to see the back of? We are protecting police

:55:31.:55:43.

budgets, yes... NOISE IN THE HOUSE.

:55:44.:55:46.

We are protecting the least budgets. But we are, of course, making

:55:47.:55:53.

reforms to policing. That's why I introduced National Crime Agency, to

:55:54.:55:55.

deal with serious and organised crime that relates to crime on the

:55:56.:55:59.

streets. That is why we have put money into a new national cyber

:56:00.:56:03.

crime unit to ensure police can deal with the new sorts of crimes there

:56:04.:56:07.

are that they have to deal with. We are reforming policing, but the key

:56:08.:56:11.

to this is not that the number of police on the streets, but about

:56:12.:56:15.

what happens to crime, and crime has fallen to a record low. Mr Speaker,

:56:16.:56:25.

the Grenfell Tower tragedy shot and so many of us, because we all

:56:26.:56:28.

believe there is much that should never have happened, but to claim,

:56:29.:56:32.

the opposition front bench did, ahead of any enquiry, that, quote,

:56:33.:56:38.

residents were murdered by politicians, unquote, is grotesquely

:56:39.:56:42.

inappropriate. Would my honourable friend confirm that our government

:56:43.:56:45.

will get on with rebuilding lives and homes and progressing enquiries

:56:46.:56:51.

with urgency and nonpartisan calm? I think my honourable friend raises a

:56:52.:56:56.

very important point. What all of those affected by Grenfell Tower

:56:57.:57:01.

deserve is an enquiry that gets to the truth and provides them with the

:57:02.:57:06.

truth and with knowing who was responsible. We need to do that in a

:57:07.:57:12.

careful, calm and determined way and we need to use that same calm

:57:13.:57:15.

determination to make sure we get to the bottom of the wider issue of why

:57:16.:57:21.

it is that materials have been used in tower blocks around the country

:57:22.:57:24.

which appear to have been noncompliant with building

:57:25.:57:29.

regulations. There are real issues here and we are not going to get to

:57:30.:57:35.

the truth by pointing fingers. We will buy calm determination.

:57:36.:57:39.

Regarding the deal she has done with the DUP, is it true that on the one

:57:40.:57:44.

hand she is shelling out all of this extra money to secure their support

:57:45.:57:47.

while, on the other hand, she is still giving them tax payers' cash

:57:48.:57:51.

in the form of short to be in opposition? Is that what we get from

:57:52.:57:58.

this by Minister, no pay rise for nurses but double bubble for her

:57:59.:58:02.

friends in the DUP? -- is that what we get from this Prime Minister.

:58:03.:58:07.

Let's be clear about what the government has done in the agreement

:58:08.:58:11.

with the Democratic Unionist Party. As a result of the election, no

:58:12.:58:14.

party has a majority in this house. Yes.

:58:15.:58:24.

NOISE IN THE HOUSE. The party that had... The party that

:58:25.:58:31.

had the largest number of seats and the only party that can form an

:58:32.:58:33.

effective government is the Conservative Party. That's the right

:58:34.:58:37.

thing to do and that's what we've done. Does the Prime Minister share

:58:38.:58:45.

my concern that last year 50,000 people were stopped at the controls

:58:46.:58:51.

at Calais, 150 people every day? Does that underline not only that we

:58:52.:58:55.

should keep those controls in place but we should consider the case for

:58:56.:58:59.

investing more in state-of-the-art technology and more border officers

:59:00.:59:03.

so we can win the war against people traffickers and keep our borders

:59:04.:59:07.

safe and secure? I say to my honourable friend at our border

:59:08.:59:11.

force officers do an excellent job at the juxtaposed controls and the

:59:12.:59:16.

work they do in his constituency. Particularly the work they are doing

:59:17.:59:19.

to stop illegal immigrants and the human traffickers. They have indeed,

:59:20.:59:25.

we have been investing in the system capabilities. 108 million has been

:59:26.:59:29.

invested in the last two years in new technology, and a further 71

:59:30.:59:34.

million is earmarked for that in the current financial year. Of course,

:59:35.:59:36.

there are particular pressures on Dover. That's why we've invested

:59:37.:59:41.

more money to maintain security there, and to ensure the Calais camp

:59:42.:59:44.

remains closed, and we are meeting efforts upstream as well to ensure

:59:45.:59:49.

that we reduce the number of people trying to get to the UK illegally.

:59:50.:59:58.

The Foreign Office are putting extra money into the central Mediterranean

:59:59.:00:00.

route, for extra humanitarian support. I know the Prime Minister

:00:01.:00:06.

is well aware of the misery and suffering caused by reckless

:00:07.:00:16.

gambling. Following her recent own experience and the turmoil it has

:00:17.:00:19.

caused to her friends and colleagues, will she now commit to

:00:20.:00:24.

legislating against fixed odds betting terminals, because of so

:00:25.:00:28.

much hardship across our communities? As the honourable lady

:00:29.:00:32.

knows, a consultation was undertaken in relation to that particular

:00:33.:00:36.

issue, which the department for culture, media and sport are

:00:37.:00:38.

considering and we will announce a response in due course. In Fareham,

:00:39.:00:45.

63% of voters chose the Conservatives, giving us a record

:00:46.:00:50.

share of the vote not seen since 1935. Will my right honourable

:00:51.:00:54.

friend join me in reminding the chamber that this side won the

:00:55.:01:00.

election? Will she join me in thanking... Join me in thanking the

:01:01.:01:09.

good people of Fareham for placing their trust in the Conservatives,

:01:10.:01:12.

and in reassuring them that she is the best person to deliver a

:01:13.:01:16.

prosperity lead and successful Brexit? I am very happy to join her

:01:17.:01:24.

in thanking the good people of Fareham for re-electing a

:01:25.:01:29.

first-class Member of Parliament to represent them. She is absolutely

:01:30.:01:34.

right, of course. It was the Conservative Party that got the

:01:35.:01:37.

highest percentage share of votes in the election, the Conservative Party

:01:38.:01:42.

that got the most seats, 56 more than the Labour Party, and the

:01:43.:01:44.

Conservative Party that got more votes, and that's why we are an

:01:45.:01:51.

effective government. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Will the Prime Minister

:01:52.:01:55.

confirm that, last week, Britain's for most senior police officers, the

:01:56.:02:02.

commission of the Matt, the head of counterterrorism, the National Crime

:02:03.:02:04.

Agency and the police chiefs cancel all wrote to the government saying

:02:05.:02:12.

that counterterrorism, policing and protective security grant is being

:02:13.:02:15.

cut by 7.2 billion -- 7.2%? Doesn't that show contrary to what she just

:02:16.:02:22.

told the member for Wrexham, that her to protect police budgets is not

:02:23.:02:30.

being kept? -- that her promise to protect police budgets. We have

:02:31.:02:33.

protected counterterrorism policing. We have put money in. We have also

:02:34.:02:38.

put money in to an uplift, for an uplift in armed policing, and the

:02:39.:02:44.

commission of the Metropolitan Police has made the point that the

:02:45.:02:47.

Metropolitan Police are well resourced and have a wide diversity

:02:48.:02:53.

of tools that they can encounter in terrorism. That's the point, it's

:02:54.:02:57.

not just about the funding but ensuring they have the powers they

:02:58.:03:00.

need to deal with the terrorists. That's what we are determined to

:03:01.:03:02.

ensure. I was deeply alarmed to hear the

:03:03.:03:16.

announcement made from the Leader of the Opposition at the Glastonbury

:03:17.:03:19.

festival that he would abandon Trident. Would pro-government that

:03:20.:03:34.

provides -- would the payment to agree that it is only our party that

:03:35.:03:37.

can provide the safety the country needs? Can I welcome my honourable

:03:38.:03:46.

friend to this house. I'm sure he will be a fine representative of the

:03:47.:03:56.

constituency. And I join with him in seeing that in public Leader of the

:03:57.:04:04.

Opposition wanted to appear to support Trident but in private

:04:05.:04:13.

wanted to scrap it. It is only the Conservative Party that is clear

:04:14.:04:14.

about maintaining the deterrent. After being defeated by my

:04:15.:04:38.

honourable friend in Perth, this government has honoured the defeated

:04:39.:04:44.

candidate, Ian Duncan, with a job in the Scotland Office. Instead of this

:04:45.:04:48.

affront to democracy does she think she should stop treating the

:04:49.:04:54.

Scottish people with contempt and give the Scottish Government a seat

:04:55.:05:02.

at the Brexit negotiations table? We have, throughout the time, been

:05:03.:05:07.

working with and talking with the Scottish Government and other

:05:08.:05:09.

devolved administrations and we will continue to do that. I hope and

:05:10.:05:19.

trust that this means the Scottish Nationalists will be focused on

:05:20.:05:21.

issues that matter to Scotland rather than independence. If the

:05:22.:05:32.

Prime Minister aware of the current crisis in Venezuela and is this an

:05:33.:05:36.

example of how an experiment in socialist revolution can go horribly

:05:37.:05:47.

wrong? I have to say that I think he's made an extremely important

:05:48.:05:57.

point. When we are talking about trade deals in the future, the

:05:58.:06:00.

Leader of the Opposition and the Shadow Chancellor think the only

:06:01.:06:04.

good trade deals are with Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea. The brave men

:06:05.:06:12.

and women in our emergency services have consistently put the safety of

:06:13.:06:17.

others first. Especially in response to the terrible events we've seen in

:06:18.:06:21.

recent months. We pay tribute to the professionalism. That's why I

:06:22.:06:25.

believe it's important that we give them the resources they need to do

:06:26.:06:30.

their vital job. In Scotland it is outrageous that police and Fire

:06:31.:06:38.

Services are required to pay VAT, front line services paying ?35

:06:39.:06:50.

million. Order, Mr cleverly. You are usually the embodiment of calm,

:06:51.:06:56.

repose and statesmanship. Take some sort of tablet, man. Thank you

:06:57.:07:06.

again, Mr Speaker. I repeat that. It is outrageous that Fire Services and

:07:07.:07:16.

police services must pay VAT and it cost them ?35 million last year

:07:17.:07:21.

alone. Now that the Prime Minister has found the magic money tree, will

:07:22.:07:31.

she... We got the gist of it. The Prime Minister. When the Scottish

:07:32.:07:36.

Government took the decision to merge police forces into a single

:07:37.:07:41.

force, they were told that this would lead to VAT being paid by

:07:42.:07:48.

Police Scotland. They were advised that was the position that they

:07:49.:07:54.

chose to go ahead with the merger. Thank you very much. Today is the

:07:55.:08:02.

festival Day of Saint Alden is. What more can be done to protect persons

:08:03.:08:09.

of faith being persecuted for their faith, particularly students who are

:08:10.:08:15.

suffering large amounts of anti-Semitism? I am happy to

:08:16.:08:21.

recognise its. It is important. Sometimes we talk a lot about people

:08:22.:08:24.

being persecuted for their faith in countries abroad. We need to be very

:08:25.:08:30.

clear that sadly we do see people suffering attacks. The CST do a lot

:08:31.:08:41.

of work with students to support and I'm happy for that. We are

:08:42.:08:45.

supporting Muslim communities suffering from Islamophobic. There

:08:46.:08:54.

is no place for this in our society. The current Prime Minister recently

:08:55.:09:00.

visited my constituency. Upon being asked about the precarious situation

:09:01.:09:05.

facing the District Hospital and the Royal Infirmary she stated that

:09:06.:09:09.

people work scaremongering. And she used this opportunity to reassure my

:09:10.:09:13.

constituents that all services will be retained at both hospitals

:09:14.:09:16.

including a full accident and emergency provision? The honourable

:09:17.:09:25.

lady knows, I was asked, and I can confirm that Dewsbury accident and

:09:26.:09:30.

emergency is not closing. The service will be open 24 hours a day,

:09:31.:09:36.

seven days a week. A majority of patients will see no change. Thank

:09:37.:09:45.

you, Mr Speaker. The repeated claim that spending ever increased amounts

:09:46.:09:51.

of money on foreign aid keeps this country safe has been shown by

:09:52.:09:56.

recent events to be utter nonsense. Can I tell the Prime Minister that

:09:57.:10:00.

spending more money on overseas aid does not make of the compassionate,

:10:01.:10:05.

it makes us look idiotic, when that money is much needed in the United

:10:06.:10:12.

Kingdom. Can she promised to slash the overseas aid budget, spend it on

:10:13.:10:18.

priorities in the UK? I hope she does not have a strange political

:10:19.:10:22.

aversion to pursuing policies that might be popular with the public. I

:10:23.:10:27.

can assure my honourable friend that I don't have that aversion but on

:10:28.:10:31.

this issue I do take a different view. I think it is important that

:10:32.:10:37.

given the position we hold, the state of our economy, one of the

:10:38.:10:40.

largest economies in the world, we recognise that we can help those

:10:41.:10:46.

around the world. We are seeing millions of people, particularly

:10:47.:10:52.

girls, being educated. I think that's important. I recognise what

:10:53.:10:56.

my honourable friend has said, that we have suffered from terrible

:10:57.:11:00.

terrorist attacks in the United Kingdom, are services have also

:11:01.:11:07.

foiled a number. Going back over recent years as well. I think it's

:11:08.:11:11.

important that we are able to use the money to ensure good governance

:11:12.:11:17.

in countries saw that we don't see the creation of spaces where

:11:18.:11:22.

terrorists are able to train. I must thank the Prime Minister and most of

:11:23.:11:27.

the Cabinet for visiting healing because my majority went up 50

:11:28.:11:37.

times. 53,000 EU nationals reside in the London Borough of Ealing and

:11:38.:11:40.

they would like some clarity on this fair and generous offer of how much

:11:41.:11:45.

extra the applications are going to cost them and why it is that they

:11:46.:11:48.

are not going to be able to vote in local elections as they are now? I

:11:49.:11:54.

would say, I'm grateful she described it as a fear and generous

:11:55.:11:57.

offer. I think it is fair and generous for people to ensure that

:11:58.:12:03.

they are able to stay and they will have rights.

:12:04.:12:13.

A significant number of charities, including those having to look after

:12:14.:12:20.

the most vulnerable in our society, our under closure because of the

:12:21.:12:27.

National living wage and HMRC's insistent that there is six years

:12:28.:12:31.

back page despite the advice only changing last year. With the Prime

:12:32.:12:38.

Minister asked HMRC to suspend any actions until we find a workable

:12:39.:12:42.

solution. My honourable friend has raised a very important issue and it

:12:43.:12:45.

is one that he cares about particularly. It is through the

:12:46.:12:49.

National living wage that we are making sure that PSP. That pay is

:12:50.:12:55.

fair. But on this point, the Department of Health and the

:12:56.:12:58.

relevant department are looking at this carefully because they want to

:12:59.:13:03.

ensure that enforcement protects low paid workers in a proportionate

:13:04.:13:06.

manner. We've invested more money in social care. We need to look at this

:13:07.:13:13.

issue on a longer-term basis. I can assure him are looking at the

:13:14.:13:20.

specific issues. Does the Prime Minister think, like her Brexit

:13:21.:13:29.

secretary, it will be simple to deliver the free trade deal with the

:13:30.:13:33.

European Union. The Brexit secretary and I have said we think a

:13:34.:13:37.

comprehensive trade agreement is not just possible but will be easy over

:13:38.:13:44.

other third-party countries because we are operating on the same basis

:13:45.:13:52.

at the moment. Therefore, we are not negotiating in the same position as

:13:53.:13:56.

say, Canada or other countries. I think we can achieve that and it

:13:57.:14:02.

will be good for the UK and good for the EU. With the Prime Minister

:14:03.:14:08.

agree that an opposition leader who claims to be all things to all men

:14:09.:14:13.

saying one thing to remain voters in London and quite another in leave

:14:14.:14:18.

voters constituencies is no kind of leader at all and maybe that is why

:14:19.:14:24.

he was rejected in the recent elections? I would like to welcome

:14:25.:14:34.

my honourable friend. I was very pleased to visit his constituency.

:14:35.:14:43.

Absolutely right. People want to know the position of the parties on

:14:44.:14:48.

this question. We are very clear that we want to see the country

:14:49.:14:53.

coming together and we want to deliver. It is what the government

:14:54.:15:05.

will do. Can I beg the Prime Minister at this crucial time to

:15:06.:15:08.

listen to the many friends we have in Europe and the world who fear

:15:09.:15:12.

that we are sleepwalking into a disastrous deal with Europe. They've

:15:13.:15:19.

no confidence in the three ministers in charge of the deal and believe

:15:20.:15:23.

our country is going to be deeply damaged, in terms of our economy and

:15:24.:15:28.

our fall in the world, if we don't get our act together. I have to say

:15:29.:15:37.

that the Brexit negotiations have started formally. There was a

:15:38.:15:42.

constructive and positive start with my right honourable friend, the

:15:43.:15:47.

Secretary of State for exiting the EU, and the commission's appointed

:15:48.:15:52.

negotiator. We've set up three working groups dealing with citizens

:15:53.:15:58.

rights, and a dialogue on the issue of the border between Northern

:15:59.:16:04.

Ireland and Ireland. That is important. We've set out our

:16:05.:16:14.

objectives, published our objectives, we know the plan. The

:16:15.:16:17.

party that does not know the plan is his party. The Prime Minister was

:16:18.:16:25.

crystal clear on Monday that the reciprocal agreements should include

:16:26.:16:31.

the people of Gibraltar. On Tuesday the Spanish Foreign Minister sought

:16:32.:16:36.

yet again to suggest Spain should have unilateral veto. Will make it

:16:37.:16:42.

clear that this is pointless and counter-productive and our

:16:43.:16:48.

commitment is absolute. I thank my honourable friend for raising that

:16:49.:16:52.

issue. This government's commitment to Gibraltar has not changed and it

:16:53.:17:04.

will remain. Suicide rates in Northern Ireland, in my

:17:05.:17:07.

constituency, are some of the worst in Europe and the developed world.

:17:08.:17:14.

Clinicians have pointed to the legacy of 30 years of terrorism and

:17:15.:17:20.

violence and the awful legacy. Part of the money we are investing goes

:17:21.:17:27.

to health care. Isn't it time people recognised this is delivery for all

:17:28.:17:34.

of the people of Northern Ireland and is going to help some of the

:17:35.:17:40.

most vulnerable and disadvantaged people in Northern Ireland? People

:17:41.:17:46.

should get behind it and welcome it. My right honourable friend makes a

:17:47.:17:50.

very important point on this. It is the case, as we said in the

:17:51.:17:57.

agreement, that we recognise the particular circumstances of Northern

:17:58.:18:02.

Ireland that have arisen as a result of its history. There will be mental

:18:03.:18:06.

health issues that arise as a part of that. It is important we put more

:18:07.:18:14.

into mental health across the UK. I visited a school in Bristol. As he

:18:15.:18:27.

says, the money is for the good of all people across Northern Ireland.

:18:28.:18:36.

I wonder if the Prime Minister has an opportunity to see the British

:18:37.:18:41.

attitudes survey which stated 75% of British people wanted to leave the

:18:42.:18:48.

EU. She will now that more than 80% of the British electorate voted for

:18:49.:18:54.

parties that want to leave the EU. She will know from her extensive

:18:55.:19:02.

canvassing that thousands of people tell me the referendum to say that

:19:03.:19:06.

the issue, just get on and leave the EU. Would she assure the house that

:19:07.:19:14.

she will make it her priority? What I've seen across the country is eyed

:19:15.:19:20.

unity of purpose for people. Regardless of how they voted in the

:19:21.:19:24.

referendum, their view is the decision has been taken, just

:19:25.:19:35.

deliver it. Thank you very much. With 9 million people in our country

:19:36.:19:41.

lonely all or most of the time, and loneliness as bad for your health as

:19:42.:19:46.

smoking 15 cigarettes a day, will the Prime Minister join with the

:19:47.:19:49.

honourable member for South Rebel and myself in encouraging members of

:19:50.:19:55.

the host to attend the Jo Cox loneliness event immediately after

:19:56.:20:00.

PMQs today to find out what all of us can do to tackle this blight in

:20:01.:20:06.

our society? The honourable lady has raised an important point and I

:20:07.:20:12.

would like to say the work you're both doing is excellent, I encourage

:20:13.:20:18.

members of the house to do what she says. We all recognise the impact

:20:19.:20:25.

loneliness has on health. We've been able to put some support into the

:20:26.:20:36.

programme. We are helping the skills of volunteers over 50 in looking at

:20:37.:20:42.

these issues. It's an important issue and honourable members should

:20:43.:20:43.

recognise the work. Order. That brings us to the end of the

:20:44.:20:55.

first Prime Minister's Questions of the new parliament, and it set a

:20:56.:21:00.

record, over 50 minutes long, probably the longest PMQs on record.

:21:01.:21:05.

The speaker wants to have an hour-long PMQs, if so, perhaps he

:21:06.:21:09.

should just have one and tell us and then we could make our plans

:21:10.:21:13.

accordingly, instead of just making it up as he goes along. Over 50

:21:14.:21:18.

minutes. The exchanges between the front benches concentrated above all

:21:19.:21:23.

on Grenfell Tower, as it's the first time we have had PMQs since that

:21:24.:21:26.

terrible disaster. Mr Corbyn began by asking some detailed questions

:21:27.:21:32.

about the cladding, about the file revelations and so on, and we got

:21:33.:21:38.

some answers, or at least some points, but he finished up by

:21:39.:21:42.

accusing the austerity cuts, claiming that the austerity cuts and

:21:43.:21:46.

cuts to local government spending were the reason that these sort of

:21:47.:21:49.

things happened. The really interesting thing that came out was

:21:50.:21:58.

that 120 blocks are now being investigated, and 120 blocks have

:21:59.:22:03.

failed the fire test. Every one investigated so far was found to

:22:04.:22:09.

have cladding that was combustible. On a question from Mr Corbyn, the

:22:10.:22:13.

Prime Minister seemed to indicate that it was actually illegal to use

:22:14.:22:22.

this cladding, because it was combustible, and yet it was on 120

:22:23.:22:26.

blocks and rising, and that would seem to be the big question. How was

:22:27.:22:31.

it, given that the cure rate -- given the building revelations

:22:32.:22:35.

seemed to forbid this kind of cladding on high rise, that it was

:22:36.:22:39.

used almost ubiquitously, everywhere? That's the question that

:22:40.:22:43.

so far nobody seems to be able to answer. Such a huge question. It's

:22:44.:22:47.

not clear that people are prepared to wait for a long inquest before

:22:48.:22:52.

they get to the bottom of it. Finally, the Prime Minister saying

:22:53.:22:56.

that, given 120, every one so far, you shouldn't wait for tests, that

:22:57.:23:02.

local authorities should get on and fit new fire and safety checks into

:23:03.:23:05.

these buildings right away, assuming that actually almost all the blogs

:23:06.:23:12.

that are going to be tested will pour into the field category. -- all

:23:13.:23:15.

of the blocks. What did the viewers make of it? Dave said that Jeremy

:23:16.:23:22.

Corbyn cleverly walked Mrs May down a seemingly neutral path and hit her

:23:23.:23:28.

with austerity very well. He seems transformed. Has he been replaced

:23:29.:23:32.

with a competent double? Martin said, it's clear that Labour is

:23:33.:23:35.

going to be that lingers deficit reduction by linking austerity with

:23:36.:23:40.

deaths. It is argued that money is the only thing that makes people do

:23:41.:23:45.

the right thing and is required to keep people safe. In effect, human

:23:46.:23:49.

beings have responsibility. John says, Mrs May has lost some arrogant

:23:50.:23:54.

and Jeremy Corbyn has gained confidence, but it is still the

:23:55.:23:59.

mediocre facing the mediocre. Ken says, difficult decisions, taxing

:24:00.:24:02.

and a freezing the just about managing isn't difficult. It's now

:24:03.:24:07.

time for difficult decisions, taxing the wealthy and inflicting seven

:24:08.:24:10.

years austerity on them, or is that too difficult for the Conservatives?

:24:11.:24:16.

This is the big mystery, and it's taking Grenfell Tower for us as a

:24:17.:24:20.

country to realise it, that it looks like it was almost par for the

:24:21.:24:24.

course that buildings were being clad in combustible material which

:24:25.:24:31.

would seem to have been banned by the building regulations, and

:24:32.:24:33.

certainly should have been banned. The Prime Minister said, this

:24:34.:24:39.

cladding, in the case at Grenfell, wasn't complying. She was unwilling

:24:40.:24:43.

to go much further is an investigation running. But this is

:24:44.:24:47.

the question being asked across the political spectrum. There are lots

:24:48.:24:51.

of theories floating around. One thing that one of our colleagues on

:24:52.:24:55.

Newsnight, Chris Cook, is on a lot of work on is trying to show how the

:24:56.:24:59.

changes in regulation lead to a system where they were being

:25:00.:25:04.

considered more as broad guidelines rather than as specifics. Jeremy

:25:05.:25:10.

Corbyn was asking some detailed questions about who was responsible

:25:11.:25:14.

for fire safety checking and so on. They're clearly has, in terms of the

:25:15.:25:18.

culture of regulation, been quite a big change over the last decade or

:25:19.:25:23.

so, but what we also saw today, for the first time, was Theresa May very

:25:24.:25:26.

carefully and definitely trying to push back at some of the accusations

:25:27.:25:32.

about how austerity was part of what's happened here. We saw a

:25:33.:25:36.

Conservative MP, Richard Graham, ask her to condemn John McDonnell's

:25:37.:25:39.

comments, and you were talking about this before, and of course this is a

:25:40.:25:46.

political situation. Of course it is a political question. But we saw how

:25:47.:25:51.

Theresa May was trying to tiptoe away, and actually quite directly

:25:52.:25:56.

say, this started under the Blair government. Cladding these buildings

:25:57.:25:58.

began a long time ago, and I think most people across politics would

:25:59.:26:03.

accept this is something that hasn't been taken seriously enough over a

:26:04.:26:08.

quite a long terrible time. Cladding isn't necessarily bad. It has made a

:26:09.:26:13.

lot of buildings look more modern, it has helped with insulation. Did

:26:14.:26:19.

we have any idea that, as we were doing this cladding, that we were

:26:20.:26:24.

using material that was combustible? That is what the public enquiry will

:26:25.:26:29.

have to identify. There is also a criminal investigation taking place.

:26:30.:26:33.

We have to let that happen. It is right and proper that we take urgent

:26:34.:26:37.

action to remove the fire risk. That is a real and immediate priority.

:26:38.:26:41.

Understanding what has gone wrong is something we have to do. My regrets

:26:42.:26:45.

today is distinct Jeremy Corbyn trying to link austerity, as he

:26:46.:26:49.

phrases it, which from my point of view is dealing with a huge deficit

:26:50.:26:55.

post 2010, to a national tragedy. We don't yet know the causes and

:26:56.:26:58.

understand what's gone wrong. We know it goes back many years. We

:26:59.:27:03.

know it's been a feature in authorities of all political

:27:04.:27:05.

persuasions. I think it's important that we take a step back. Let's not

:27:06.:27:10.

as politicians throw mud at each other over this. Let's try and work

:27:11.:27:13.

out what's gone wrong and make sure it can never happen again and

:27:14.:27:16.

provide support to authorities to make sure. Whether it started under

:27:17.:27:21.

the Blair government doesn't seem to me to be relevant. There was a

:27:22.:27:27.

policy of doing more cladding. What will surprise people, and it's not

:27:28.:27:30.

linked to austerity, is that you would need a building regulation to

:27:31.:27:36.

tell you not to put a combustible material on. I think the dog could

:27:37.:27:41.

have told you that! Yes, and that's the first question that needs to be

:27:42.:27:46.

answered. Jeremy went to Grenfell and met families and looked them in

:27:47.:27:49.

the eye and said he would support them, and what politicians always do

:27:50.:27:54.

when they don't want to confront these very difficult challenges is

:27:55.:27:58.

say, let's not bring politics into this, but it is political. Decisions

:27:59.:28:03.

were made not just about cladding but other issues. But long before

:28:04.:28:08.

austerity. We don't know that. But it goes back to the Blair

:28:09.:28:12.

government. We don't know how much of this is the cladding, how much of

:28:13.:28:15.

this is failure to inspect and to do testing. Wood I need to stop you

:28:16.:28:20.

both. We think of something totally different.

:28:21.:28:23.

There's just time to put you out of your misery and give

:28:24.:28:26.

It was the year 2000. Jenny, do you want the press that button? I'd be

:28:27.:28:36.

delighted. Don't worry, nothing terrible happens. The winner is

:28:37.:28:40.

David Upton from Ruislip in Middlesex was well done. The year

:28:41.:28:45.

was 2000. That is near where my mum lives. She'll probably trying to

:28:46.:28:48.

nick it! The one o'clock news is starting

:28:49.:28:49.

over on BBC One now. Jo and I will be here at noon

:28:50.:28:51.

tomorrow with all the big political Brexit means Brexit.

:28:52.:28:55.

We did it! To pretend that it's going to be

:28:56.:29:04.

plain sailing is such knuckle-headed lunacy.

:29:05.:29:07.

Happy days are here.

:29:08.:29:11.

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS