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Good morning, welcome to the Daily Politics and Westminster,


where a leaked document has given us the first real insight


into how the government plans to cut immigration after Brexit.


The plan hasn't been signed off by ministers. It puts British workers


first. Labour has ordered its MPs to vote


against the EU withdrawal bill. So is the party now singing


from the same hymn sheet It's the first Prime


Minister's Questions There's plenty to discuss and we'll


have all the action live at noon. It was last year's must-have


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back-to-work blues you may be experiencing after


the end of summer. Andrew's not quite come to terms


with the arrival of autumn. He'll be back from his summer break


in a couple of weeks. But I'm joined by two MPs who've


been desperate to get back to Westminster and, more importantly


into the Daily Politics studio. It's the Brexit Minister,


Robin Walker and the Shadow Northern First, today, let's talk


about the big story of the morning, the leaked Home Office plan


for immigration post-Brexit. The government says it's not been


signed off by ministers, but there's plenty of detail


in the 82-page document A new more selective approach. This


would focus on the UK's social and economic needs as determined by the


Government to make existing residents better


Work permits can be granted to low-skilled migrants for two years,


residents better migrants for two years,


and to high-skilled ones for five years.


Employers will be encouraged to focus on the "resident


while EU nationals may need permission to take up a job.


So, as we said, the government is making it clear


this isn't its final plan, and Defence Secretary Michael Fallon


was asked about the leak this morning.


off. I can't comment on the leaked document. I've not seen it. We're


working on a whole series of documents which will set out what


the future partnership with the rest of Europe will look like. Freedom of


movement will no longer aplea. We will not be able to receive people


from an unlime theed basis from the rest of Europe. Freedom of movement


has to end when we leave. We need to set out the new arrangements. If you


live in Europe and want to come and work here, how long you can stay,


whether you can bring your family and so on. How much of this leaked


immigration document do you agree with? As you know, ministers from


the Government never comment on leaked documents. It was clear in


the Conservative manifesto freedom of movement would be ending when we


leave the EU. What we now need to do ask work on sensible policies to


make sure what the needs of our economy is. Which the Home Office is


doing by commissioning work from the advisory committee and we need to


control migration in the future. You're not distancing yourself from


the document or its proposals? You have goals you need to achieve.


Let's go through it. One proposal says we should prioritise in the UK


by giving preference in the job market to resident workers? Do you


agree with that? I'm not getting into the detail. It is not a detail.


It is a broad sentiment. Should preference in the job market be


given to resident workers? Yes or no? We need to make sure we have the


skills policy, the workers to work in our industries and support our


economy. We have the immigration policy designed to meet the needs of


our economy and demand from the British people to see greater


control. That's what the Home Office is working on. When they present


their policies later this year's we'll see thinky on both of those


objectives. That's compatible with a preference in the job market to


resident workers. British jobs for British workers? What I'm saying is


we need to have a policy that he meets both those objectives. We need


to continue to grow our economy, make the economic success story the


UK has been. It is one of the greatest job creating economies in


the Western World. We need to also deliver on this issue people are


concerned that uncontrolled migration has led to pressure on


public services, on wages. That's something there used to be consensus


between the Conservative Party and Labour Party on. It appears Labour


have moved away from that position. Should EU citizens who come to work


here be able to bring their family members here too? We've been clear


we want to take a generous approach when it comes to families. We want


to make sure families can continue with their lives. So they should be


able to? We're engaged in discussions with the EU on resip


rock Calais rangements which protect both citizens. We need to address


thattishure for people already here, the four million, a million living


in Europe and 3 million in the UK. We need to look at how to go


forward. I'm asking you a straightforward question. People


watching this programme will think this document has been leaked. It


has an awful lot of detail. The Government is not prepared to take


ownership of it or reject it. We're talking broad principles here. In


order to bring the numbers down to under 100,000 which this Government


has failed to do since 2010, should EU citizens who come to work here be


able to bring family members? If they can, you admit it will be more


difficult to bring the numbers down? It will be as part of the policy set


out, for the Home Office to set out the broad range of policies. One of


the key areas people are concerned about is people who are coming to


the country to look for work rather than having work. We will treat


people fairly. It is very important we have to remember whatever


decisions we take about EU nationals here, decisions will be taken about


UK Nash nags living in the EU as well. Should there be a cap on


overall number of low skilled workers which come in each yoer?


This is again, something the Government will set out in its


policy. We are looking at the impact on immigration on every area of the


economy and every part of the UK. We need evidence-based policy on this.


It is something on the table? I'm not commenting on leak dock the


ofments -- leaked documents. Which sectors of the economy would have to


carry on with fewer EU workers? I I think it is very important we are


getting evidence from all sectors of the economy. Free movement as it


existed today will come to an end once we've left the EU. That's a


challenge for the Government, those seconders of the economy that may


need to train more people up domestically and change they're


prove. We have to ensure we have an approach which delivers for our


economy and demand from the British people to see control. Do you think


it is a good or bad idea the things we've talked about? ? Which once in


particular? Having a cap on low skilled workers, on the numbers


coming from the EU. Saying which family members can be brought over.


British jobs for British workers. Gordon Brown coined that phrase?


British jobs for British workers, I've no issue with that. It is our


job to look after British citizens and British residents. I don't know


why Robyn is so reticent about aCopting that as Pi significance. It


is an aspiration not a policy? It is a policy I wouldn't have a


difficulty. In terms of some of the other things you mention, do I think


it is a good idea to have a specific cap on low-wage migrant workers?


Truthfully, caps don't work. It hasn't worked getting it down to


tens of thousands. We've seen some reduction in migration into this


country from EU workers over the last 12 months. That's proving


problematic in some industries. What do we he mean by low skilled, low


wage workers? Nurses? Low skilled low watch workers is talked about


having a wage of less than ?35,000 a year. That would catch nurses in the


NHS on whom we are reliant. It would be really foolish of the Government


to restrict the number of vital workers we bring in. It would be


equally foolish if any restrictions were to damage our economy and jobs


in this country. Do you agree some element of freedom of movement will


be needed to get good access to the single market? It is possible. The


reality of document seems to concede the promise made to the Brexiteers


we would stop immigration into this country, all immigration was the


implication, non-EU... They didn't say stop but reducing? Many people


were left with the idea that immigration would stop into Britain.


You don't want to end freedom of movement? What people want to see is


a controlled system of immigration. It is not stopping immigration.


We've been clear wep still want to attract the brightest and best. For


up to five years? We want O'Attract people from around the EU and


beyond. The point I was making was during the Brexit debate, many


people were left with the impression that the primary objective of Brexit


was to stop immigration. To get it down to dramatically low numbers.


But that isn't stopping immigration. This document's getting more


realistic. Yesterday, the Labour Party


confirmed that it will instruct its MPs to vote against the government's


EU withdrawal bill in the Commons That's the legislation which


transfers existing European law And Labour says it amounts to a


power grab that puts workers' rights and consumer and environmental


protection at risk. So, is Labour's position


on Brexit now clear? Let's take a look at what some


of the party's senior figures have said about the single market


since the referendum. The damage that would be done


to our economy by pulling out of the single market at this time


could be substantial. We wouldn't want to leave membership


of the single market. Our aim is to have tariff-free


trade access to Europe. I think we should put it


in those terms, rather I think people will interpret


membership of the single market You want to end up


with the same benefits What we've said is,


it's an open question. So the Labour position is this -


we leave the European Union. As leaving the European Union


means we need to leave We want to retain the benefits


that we currently have as part of the customs union


and the single market. Now, whether that inside


or outside, that's a moot point. To be absolutely crystal clear,


we leave the single European market No, the two things are


inextricably linked. So we have to leave


the single market? What we've said is,


the transitional period, ie from March 2019 until we get


to a new and final deal, will be within the customs union


and with the single market. We think that being part


of the customs union and the single market is important in those


transitional times, because that's the way you protect jobs


and the economy, and it might be a permanent outcome


of the negotiations. It is not a U-turn,


it is the development of our policy. Well, I hope that was all completely


crystal clear. Owen Smith how long before Labour's Brexits Poings


changes again? I think our Brexit position, it was slightly unfair.


What was unfair? It was mixing up talking about the transitional


period post March 2019 and through to the point of there being a final


agreement. And the point after the final agreement. The clear policy


from us right now is that between March 2019 and the final agreement


on what the relationship with the EU is post-Brexit which would want to


retain membership of the single market and a customs union. That's


the least disadvantageous most certain thing from British industry


and jobs. It is a changing position. Lots of noises after Labour after


the referendum about remaining in the single market. Then Labour said


we'll have to leave the single market to respect the referendum


result. Some of the Shadow Cabinet suggested you could still be


members. Jeremy Corbyn said you have to leave. Then Tom Watson said that


could be permanent. You've gone full circle? Well, I've been consistent


throughout this period. But your party hasn't? No, the Labour Party


collectively voted to invoke Article 50. Thereby accepting we are leaving


the EU in March 2019. You're saying we'll stay in the single market and


in the customs union? No, in the single market and customs union in


the transitional period from March 2019 through to the point of a final


agreement. That's the sensible grown up thing to do. Where the Tories are


making a problem for the country, industry, jobs, people who rely on a


decent economy here, is the uncertainty that now pertains.


They're trying to get a guaranteed bespoke transitional set of


arrangements in place. Everybody can see who's been watching these


negotiations there's no prospects of that What should happen after the


transitional period? You have to see what the best possible deal is. That


gives us the benefits of being in the single market. Do you agree


Labour might suggest permanently remaining in the single market? It


could be that what we end up with is a deal with looks exactly like


staying in the single market. Or having... Let's be clear to people,


it's confusing listening to all the various scenarios that could unfold


You're making it more confusing than it is. Keir starnler says you want


to stay in the single market during the transitional period. Tom Watson


is consistent about a permanent position within the single market


beyond the transition. Does that include retaining freedom of


movement? To be clear, Keir said last week we


still won the same benefits the government has promised us. That


might mean that the deal we negotiate with the EU is tantamount


to remaining in the single market. Good freedom of movement continue


past March 2019? I think the Government has conceded in this


league report today that there is going to be a degree of freedom of


movement, that we're not going to shift to ending all move between the


EU and the UK but there may be extra elements to it. Is that what is


being said? What we're seen from the Labour Party... What about what is a


document, and exactly what is freedom of movement? I'm not talking


about what is the document but it is clear that freedom of movement well


end when we beat the EU. What we need to do is design a new policy.


On this issue of transition, we've accepted that there will be interim


arrangements and we will look at putting in place. It is not for the


Labour Party, as a party of opposition, to dictate the outcome


of his negotiation is. They should be engaging with making this process


a success. The extraordinary thing is the U-turn ear, which you owe and


can say he has been consistent on, having voted for notification of


withdrawal... His concession weblog is -- his position seems to be


inconsistent. We have to move on. Now, when Parliament broke up


for the summer recess, Theresa May's end of term exam performance


was decidedly less than stellar. We're not exactly sure what losing


the Conservative majority equates to under the new examination


guidelines, but we're pretty sure for the Tories


it's far from an A-star. But as she's now said she wants


to lead the party into the next election she's keen to show


there's more to life than Brexit. Yes, as MPs return for a new term,


and the Prime Minister prepares can she turn herself


into the comeback kid? Her government is certainly keen


to ensure Brexit negotiations don't squeeze out all the


other subjects on the timetable. Theresa May says she still wants


to remedy some of those 'burning back when she was a


fresh-faced Head Girl. The school sick bay


could get a revamp. Today, she's talking about ensuring


equal treatment for mental Schools around the country


should get spruced up. An additional ?1.3 billion has been


announced over the next two years. But the younger crowd


haven't shown much love And, to that end, Theresa May


is planning to free up public sector land to build thousands


of new homes. It's been suggested that her broad


plan to make everyone better off will involve lifting


the public sector pay cap. Making changes to public services


after her audit on how they treat racial minorities


is finally published. And reforming corporate


governance to give workers But will all that amount


to a significant domestic agenda, or does she still have plenty


of homework to do? Thank you. Let's speak to the media


strategic strategist Joe Tanner, who used to work the Conservatives.


Welcome to the Daily Politics. Theresa May has been in office for


over a year and came into Downing Street with a big pitch for a


different kind of conservatism. Catchy, in your mind, really


delivered on that bold agenda? No, and that is clearly whether workers


to do. Some of the groundwork has been put in place, such as the audit


that your colleague mentioned but I think the really important work now


is not only about the domestic agenda she's got a real job to shore


up the Conservative Party ahead of the conferences to it Isn't it true


that Brexiters going to influence and shape everything that is done,


even on the domestic agenda? That is the huge challenge that Theresa May


faced in the minute she took over as Prime Minister because we knew that


this period was going to be dominated by Brexit and I think part


of the problem is that because of potentially a domestic void in terms


of the domestic policy agenda, we have seen Brexit completely


dominate. There is the question that everything will be viewed through


the prism of Brexit and what it could mean but I think that


shouldn't stop her from trying to get on with some of the things she


talked about when she made her first speech on the steps of Downing


Street. But we all know from the result of the election that there


were a lot of voters who like the offer from Labour and Jeremy Corbyn,


so do you think there will be moved by the Conservatives under Theresa


May to park their tanks on Labour's lawn? You probably stole the phrase


I was going to use because I think that is exactly what not only


activists and donors and potentially her Parliamentary colleagues are


going to be looking for from her now... Because there is clearly a


great fear amongst the Conservatives about how much ground Labour managed


to make in the election and, they be speak to a lot of Conservatives by


surprise. So there is a huge amount to do now, not just about delivering


on that domestic agenda but actually coming up with some stuff that is


going to capture people's imagination. Going to show the


Conservatives can stand for something more than austerity, some


kind of hope, and that is what Theresa May needs to deliver now. Do


you think she has done enough to see off critics and opponents from


within the Conservative Party? I don't mean she has really started


yet, if I'm honest. The period post the election, one of the


difficulties was that very awkward speech made after the result, which


a lot of people felt she should have been far more respect for the people


that had lost their seats and she should have acknowledged that more


and she didn't, and there was a lot of catching up to do around that


period, and I think that has upset quite a lot of Conservatives. But


the party conferences going to be about healing wounds, about looking


inwards and seeing what went wrong. We're already seeing the start of


some of that narrative beginning, and I think she really started on


that journey to not only repair the damage but to ensure she's got a


group of people fully supportive and behind her. Thank you very much.


That is from a friend of the Conservative Party, Jo Tanner. We


have got to deliver on a broad domestic agenda. When the Prime


Minister entered Downing Street she was clear that there had to be a


programme for a fairer Britain that works for everyone and that is


something that I think with some of the announcements you covered in


your piece around improving investment in schools, the enormous


expansion of investment into the NHS and hiring more staff... We are


seeing elements of that but of course there is more to do and it is


important that we get on with setting up the positive view of the


opportunities. You say there is more to do but you have not really


started. Can you give me any examples in that first year where


Theresa May's government has demonstrably improve the lives of


British people? Absolutely, the investments in mental health, the


commitment to a living wage and increasing payments to the lowest


paid, these are substantial investments that the government has


made. I have been campaigning for years for fairer funding for our


schools under fair of allocating that. Why did so many Tory MPs rebel


against the idea of that funding formula? Any change to the


allocation formula is going to be controversial but this is something


that parts... There were more losers than winners. We have come up with a


policy that really benefits us and increases opportunity. If you have


done so much in the way you have just set up, why do so few people


trust you on issues like housing and the NHS? We shouldn't forget the


fact that we did actually win the election. There were more people who


voted Conservative in the last general election... You lost your


majority. I kept my majority, thank you. The Tories lost the majority.


Nationally, what we saw as the two major part is getting a far greater


share than they had had before but the reality is that the Conservative


Party has a strong mandate to take this country forward. We will use


that mandate to deliver the fairer Britain that Theresa May set out in


her Downing Street speech and it is very important we get right, of


course it is, we need to make sure we take the right approach. It is


not just about it being important, it is going to be the deciding


factor. Of course it is usually important and working in the


department for exiting the European Union you wouldn't examine to say


anything else. But one of the reasons our department was set up is


so we could focus on some of those challenges, coordinate with other


departments but let those departments get on with doing their


own jobs and that is equally important. We need to make progress


on health, education, making our country competitive. On all of these


issues we want to be able to get out there and set out a positive agenda.


We will speak more during and after PMQs.


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I feel quite out of sorts with no bongs! Is a disorientating you? Yes,


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PMQs. I think although Westminster has been abuzz with chat of a sleek


immigration paper from the Home Office, I think on Jeremy Corbyn is


more likely to other public sector pay cap. As we were discussing


yesterday, one of the things that has been an abuzz since Westminster


came back is speculation about whether or not the Treasury will


finally released the purse strings a little bit and allow the lifting of


the 1% pay cut for public sector workers. Labour's obviously made a


lot of this issue, particularly over the question of nurses' pay.


Yesterday Nicola Sturgeon announced plans to lift it in Scotland. And


there have been hints from ministers but the guidance has to come from


the Treasury first. There will be discussion, I presume, about who


would get their pay cap lifted and whether it would be targeted. That's


right, and this is not an issue that has suddenly bubbled up. There has


been chat about this, crucially for the Tories, since the election. MPs


know on the doorstep that was one of the things that have quite hard in


various parts of the country, public sector workers, whether teachers,


doctors, nurses or anyone else, felt aggrieved that for such a long time


they hadn't seen what many of them would consider to be a decent pay


rise. What about the state of the leaders themselves? That is an


interesting question, because how things turn. This time last year


Theresa May arrived for the first PMQs as the Queen in ascendance and


it felt as if she couldn't put a foot wrong. I remember how she was


cheered to the rafters by backbenchers at exactly this point


last year. In reverse, Jeremy Corbyn had just... He was absolutely riding


high on support from Labour members but at that stage, the PLP, as Owen


will no doubt remember very clearly, was in a very, very different place.


They were in the last couple of weeks of the leadership contest


before the conclusion of that and, really, at that point, he was the


one who was vulnerable. Theresa May but completely unstoppable. And now


things seem to have changed. Theresa May now tells us she is not a


quitter and wants to lead the party into the next election. I think that


came as a surprise to many people, including those who will be on her


backbenchers, at least some of them. Yesterday on this programme, the


chairman of the 1922 committee reminded us that a PM's authority is


always subject as a board of colleagues. And he also used the


phrase very carefully "At the moment". So in terms of the


temperature of support, shall we say, whether that was scalding hot,


too hot to handle, I think it was rather tepid. Theresa May after the


election went to the 1922, limiting of Tory backbenchers and told them


very carefully, "I am here as you want me". Basically, I so that your


pleasure. On a trip to Japan she told reporters of the rather


different and said she would be there in the long term and was not a


quitter. That it did Debbie irritates other MPs who felt that


was not quite the deal she struggled them after the election and there


aren't many people in the Tory party you speak to who actually really


believe that. The backdrop of course everything is Brexit, it seems, so


however much Theresa May would like to talk about a domestic agenda, it


is going to shape everything, isn't it? It is, and not least because in


terms of the act of business of government, the things that happen


in the chamber, it is going to take up so much of the time. It is just


going to dominate the programme and that does mean, therefore, that MPs,


ministers, whether they like it or not, will be sucked into this but he


must, and not least because the work is not just going across in the


Brexit department it up leaving the EU doesn't just mean how do we


extricate ourselves from that relationship, it means with these


immigration proposals, every single department and government having to


come up with basically a reworking of how it currently works because EU


law has spread into every corner of our lives. Unlikely to be something


greater PMQs by Jeremy Corbyn? I would be surprised if he does and I


would be surprised if he raises the immigration paper because just as on


the Tory benches, on the Labour benches there is a difference of


opinion on this two subject so if he mentions Brexit, Theresa May has


plenty of fodder to throw back at him with Labour's slightly unclear


or ever-changing position. With that, let's go over to the House of


Commons for Prime Minister's Questions.


As we return from the summer recess, I'm shower thoughts of the House


will be the Vic tempts of the Barcelona terror attack. Mr Speaker,


awant to reassure the house the UK has ensured assistance in the form


of military and humanitarian resources are in place including in


the overseas territories who are preparing for Hurricane Irma. In


addition to my duties in this house, I will have meets later today.


Everyone agrees with my right honourable friend and the thoughts


she shares with those in the terror attack


Bears lone in a. As part of the process, it is imperative we


transfer there are many serious concerns about the means not the


ends of the EU withdrawal Bill. So, could my Right Honourable Friend


assure me she will look in particular at those amendments that


seek to change the EU withdrawal Bill so that it doesn't become an


unprecedented and unnecessary Government power grab? I'm grateful


to my Right Honourable Friend for raising this issue. I know, like me,


she wants to see an orderly exit from the EU and will be supporting


this bill which enables us not just to leave the EU but to do so in an


orderly manner with a functioning statute book. We will require


certain powers to make corrections to the statute book after the bill


becomes law because negotiations are ongoing. We'll do if through


secondary legislation. An approach that has been endorsed by the House


of Lords constitution committee. I would like to reassure my Right


Honourable Friend that as the bill goes through its scrutiny in this


House and the debate continues, we will listen very carefully to that


debate. I will be very happy to meet my right honourable friend to


discuss this further. THE SPEAKER: Jeremy Corbyn Mr


Speaker, I agree with the moment on what she just said about Barcelona.


The attack was appalling. We should think of the victims but also thank


the people of Barcelona for their wonderful community response to what


was a threat to all of them. I hope the whole House will join me of


thinking of the Vic tiffs of the terrible floods in Bangladesh,


Nepal, searer a Lee Yoann, and in Texas and our thoughts with those


facing Hurricane Irma in the United States. Every member of this house


should be concerned inflation is once again running ahead of people's


pay. This week, workers at McDonald's took strikes action for


the first time. The boss of McDonald's is sported to have earned


8. ?1.8 million does the Prime Minister back the McDonald's


workers' case for an end to zero hours contracts and decent pay? The


issue that has taken place in McDonald's is a matter for


McDonald's to deal with. The questions... Let's focus. Let's


focus on what the right honourable gentleman has raised which is, let's


focus on what he's raised on zero hours contracts. The number of


people on zero hours contracts is very small. There are people who


genuinely say as a proportion of the workforce who say it is a benefit to


them being on those contracts. For 13 years, the Labour Party was in


Government and did nothing about zero hours contracts. It is this


Conservative Government that has put the workers first and band exclusive


zero hours contracts. Mr Speaker, my question was about McDonald's and


the Chief Executive is paid 1,300 times as much as his staffment there


are 800,000 people approximately in Britain on zero hours contracts.


When she became leader, the Prime Minister pledged "I want to make


shareholder votes on corporate pay not just advisory but binding" and


she put it into her manifesto. That manifesto's been dumped or arc


I'veed. Like so much else in her manifesto, where was the tough talk


on corporate greed? Was it just for the election campaign? Or is it


going to be... Or is it going to be put into law? Well, I suggest to the


right honourable gentleman he looks at the action Conservative have


taken on this Irish you. We recently published our proposals on corporate


governance. It is Conservative who force companies to disclose board


pay. That's been done not by a Labour Government but the


Conservative Party who's been putting workers first. I note she


uses the worse advisory. Page 18 of the dumped manifesto says... The


next, says, Mr Speaker, the next to help


people struggling, Mr Speaker, to help people struggling to make ends


meet, many politicians have become convinced we need to cap energy


prices. Even the Prime Minister was briefly converted to this policy.


Last week, the profit margins of the big six energy companies hit their


highest ever level. I wonder if I could prevail on the Prime Minister


to stick to her own manifesto pledges on this matter as well?


Well, first of all, on the question of what we were doing on corporate


governance, I didn't use the word advisory. He needs to listen to my


answer and not just read out the statement... He's raised an


important issue. He's raised an important issue about energy prices.


We are concerned about the way that particular market is operating. We


expect the companies to treat customers fairly. That's why we've


been looking at the action that can be taken. Why the Business Secretary


has been doing that. He wrote to Ofgem in June asking them to advise


on what action they could take to safeguard customers. We're


particularly concerned about those who are the poorest customers who


are kept on these tariffs that do not give them value for money. So, I


agree, it's the Government that's doing something about it. Well, Mr


Speaker, if only that were the case. Ofgem's plans only will benefit 2.6


million customers. 17 million customers are short changed by the


big six energy companies. She could and should take action on it. Mr


Speaker, she's not the only one going back on her word...


When the members opposite have #k5u78ed down a little, I'd like to


say this, at last year's Sports Direct annual meeting, Mike Ashley


personally pledged to ban the use of zero hours contracts in his company.


A year on, they're still exploiting insecure hours workers with zero


hours contracts. Will the Prime Minister join me in now demanding


that Mr Ashley honour his words and ends zero hours contract in all of


his companies? I've said it is this Government that's taken action in


relation to zero hours contracts unlike the Labour Party. The right


honourable gentleman talks about manifestos and people going back on


their word. I might remind him in the Labour Party manifesto there was


a commitment to support Trident, our independent nuclear deterrent.


Shortly after the election, in private, he told people he didn't


agree with that. For years, the right honourable gentleman sat on


the Labour Party benches and didn't support Labour policy. Now he's


Labour Leader and he still doesn't support Labour policy. Mr Speaker, I


listened really carefully to what the Prime Minister said on this


occasion. I'm struggling to see the connection between what she just


said, Mike Ashley, Sports Direct and McDonald's! So, maybe she could now


answer the question, will she condemn what Sports Direct and


McDonald's are doing to their staff? It is quite straightforward. Yes or


no? Mr Speaker, today, thousands of nursing and other health care staff


are outside Parliament. They're demanding this Government scrap the


1% pay cap. Poor pay means experienced staff are leaving and


fewer people are training to become nurses. There's already a shortage


of 40,000 nurses across the UK. Will the Prime Minister please see sense


and end the public sector pay cap and ensure our NHS staff are


properly paid. We absolutely value the work of all


those working in the public sector, nurses, teachers and others who are


doing a good job for us day in, day out in what are often difficult and


harrowing circumstances. It might be helpful if I remind the House on


where we are on the issue of pay review bodies in public sector pay.


There are two reports still to be published and for the Government to


respond to for police and prison officers. Later, as always happens


every year, later in the autumn we'll publish the frame work for


2018/19 and continue to balance the need to protect jobs, public sector


workers and the need to ensure we're also protecting and being fair to


those who are paying for it, including public sector workers. I


say to the right honourable gentleman, what we have seen, what


he does in this House and outside this House is consistently stand up


and ask for more money to be spent on this that and the other. He can


do that in opposition. He asks consistently for more money


to be spent jockey can do that in opposition because he knows he


doesn't have to pay for it. The problem with Labour is that they do


it in government as well and when... As a result of the decisions the


Labour Party took in government... As a result of decisions the Labour


Party took in government, we now have to pay more on debt interest


ban on NHS paid. That's the result of Labour. The Prime Minister had no


problems finding ?1 billion to please the DUP, no problems


whatsoever. And NHS staff are 14% worse off than they were seven years


ago. Is she really happy that NHS staff use food banks? Warm words


don't pay food bills. Pay rises will help to do that. She must end the


public sector pay cap. The reality for working people is lower wages


and less job security, within work poverty now at record levels. So


will the Prime Minister clarifies and she evaded during the election


campaign? For those struggling to get by, whether employed,


self-employed, permanent or temporary, can the Prime Minister


categorically state today they will not see rises in the basic rate of


income tax, national insurance contributions or VAT? I can tell the


right honourable gentleman the help we have been giving to those who are


just about managing. We've taken 4 million B but out of paying income


tax altogether. We've given a tax cut to over 30 million people. We


see record numbers of people in employment in this country. We're


given the lowest earners the highest pay rise for 20 years by introducing


the national living wage. But you only get that with a strong economy.


We believe in sound money, he believes in higher debts. We believe


in making our economy strong so we can invest in our public services.


Labour's approaches reckless, ours is balanced. Our approach delivers a


strong economy, more money for public services, more jobs for


people and families, but you only get a strong economy and a better


future with the Conservatives. Thank you, Mr Speaker. As the Prime


Minister said, this Government has an outstanding record of job


creation with 3 million more people in work than seven years ago. It is


perfectly true that wage rises have not been as high as we would have


hoped but I'm proud that we gave that big boost to people at the low


end with a rise in the national living wage. What the right


honourable gentleman opposite does not understand, you can only have


sustainable rises in pay with increases in productivity. My


question to the Prime Minister is, will she instruct all of her


ministers to bring forward proposals for productivity rises in time for


the Chancellor to announce them at the budget? I thank my right Rory


Bourke friend and he has absolutely put his finger on its. Productivity


is absolutely crucial for the strength of our economy going


forward and improving that productivity. That is why we have


introduced our modern industrial strategy, which will boost


productivity and is also why we are introducing really good quality tech


Loughgall -- technical education in this country for the first time, to


ensure that young people have the skills they need to take the higher


paid jobs that will be created as a result of our industrial strategy.


Does the Prime Minister agree with me that immigration is essential to


the strength of the UK economy, as well as enhancing our diversity and


cultural fabric? As I have said on many occasions before, overall


immigration has been good for the UK. But what people want to see is


control of that immigration. That is what people wanted to see as a


result of coming out of the European Union. We're already able to


exercise controls in relation to those who come to this country from


outside the countries within the European Union and we continue to


believe as a Government that it is important to have net migration and


sustainable levels, which we believe to be in the tens of thousands,


because of the impact particularly on people on the lower end of the


income scale in depressing their wages. Mr Speaker, last October the


Prime Minister was forced into a humiliating U-turn on prose Poles --


proposals to force companies to disclose any foreign workers


employed. During the summer, 100 EU nationals resident in the UK


received to deportation notices in error, causing alarm to them and


many others. We need to cherish those who are here and not chase


them away. The Prime Minister must stop dancing to the tune of her


right-wing backbenchers and apologise for the disgraceful


treatment her Government has shown migrants in the UK. In the first


instance, will she pledged that international students will no


longer be included in the net migration figures? Can I just say to


the honourable gentleman back in relation to the error that was made


by the Home Office, every single one of those individuals was telephoned


with an apology. It shouldn't have happened in the first place but the


Government did telephone with an apology. Let me just say this to the


honourable gentleman. As I explain to my first answer to him, there is


a reason for wanting to ensure we can control migration. It is because


of the impact that that migration can have on people, on access to


services, on access to infrastructure but crucially, it


often hits those at the lower end of the income scale hardest and I


suggest that the honourable gentleman thinks about that impact,


rather than just standing up here and saying what he has done. Is


important we bring in controls, we want to want to continue to welcome


the brightest and the best here to the UK, and we continue to do so. I


know that my right honourable friend will be as alarmed and angered as


many at the decision of the Northern Ireland judicial authority to open


the so-called legacy cases involving past and present members of the


Armed Forces. These cases have been meticulously investigated and


represent just 10% of deaths in the troubles. A line really does need to


be drawn here. Does my right honourable friend agree that it is


wrong to single out any group for this kind of investigation, and that


the hundreds of thousands of people who served in Northern Ireland


should feel appreciated for the difficult job they did, not being


hounded into old age by investigations of this kind? Can I


first of all say to my right honourable friend that we are


unstinting in our admiration for the role that our Armed Forces played in


ensuring Northern Ireland's future would only ever be decided by


democracy and consent, and the overwhelming majority serve with


great distinction and we owe them a great debt of gratitude. But as part


of our work to implement the Stormont House agreement, we will


ensure that new supporters will be under obligations to be fair,


balanced and proportionate, which will make sure our veterans are not


unfairly treated or disproportionately investigated and


indeed reflect the fact that 90% of deaths in the troubles were caused


by terrorist and not the Armed Forces. But as he will appreciate,


the investigations by PSNI are, of course, a matter for them, as they


are independent of government. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Prime Minister


will be aware of the death of my constituent Kim Briggs, who was


knocked over last year by a cyclist on an illegal fixed wheel bike with


no front brake. Does the Prime Minister agree with me that the law


on dangerous driving should be extended to include offences by


cyclists, and does she also agree with me that the 1861 offence of


wanton and furious driving, which the prosecution had to rely upon in


this case, is hopelessly outdated and wholly inadequate? Can I first


of all extend our sympathies to the family and friends of the honourable


lady's constituent who died in this tragic circumstances, and she has


raised an important issue. I think we should welcome the fact that they


were able to find legislation under which to make a prosecution but the


point is a general one about ensuring our legislation gives up to


date with events that take place ensure this is something the


Secretary of State for transport will look at. Living near a natural


green space is good for your physical and mental health but those


in the most deprived areas of the country are the least likely to do


so. My right honourable friend is committed to reducing inequality and


improving mental health. Can I ask her to read the new report published


by the Conservative environment network, masterminded by my


honourable friend, the Member for Taunton Deane, and ask to take on


board its recommendation to consider the environment across government


policy? The whole question of mental health is one that I know she has


campaigned on and has a particular interest in and it is interesting


that she has raised, and I welcome the fact she has raised this issue


of the health benefits of green space, which is becoming ever more


recognised and certainly, I know this is something that the


Conservatives network highlights in its report it up Defra will be


producing a 25 year environment plan. It will look at the evidence


in that report and it will focus on what can be done to ensure that the


benefits provided by access to green space are available to all segments


of society. Thank you, Mr Speaker. This summer, a third of all parents


across the country went without a meal to ensure that they can feed


their children during the school holidays. In Stoke-on-Trent, amazing


volunteers came together to provide over 10,000 meals for local kids.


I'm very proud of my constituents but I'm disgusted that this


Government, who have done nothing and turned a blind eye. How many


kids have to go hungry, how many parents have to go without food,


before this Prime Minister will do her job and act? Well, I have to say


to the honourable lady, I recognise an issue that she has raised about


children, particularly those who are normally able to access free school


meals during term time and the impact this has during the holidays,


is a matter that her writer Robert friend the Member for Birkenhead has


been taking up, together with colleagues in the APPG for hunger.


From the Government's point of view our focus remains on tackling the


root causes of poverty. This is what is important, not just the symptoms.


Nearly three quarters of children from workless families moved out of


poverty when their parents entered into full-time work and we see


record levels of employment under this government. That's why this is


so important. Ensuring that we get a strong economy and those jobs. But


I'm sure that ministers at the Department for Work and Pensions on


the Department for Education will be looking at the proposals the right


honourable member for Birkenhead has brought forward. The reductions in


unemployment, poverty and income inequality are some of our proudest


achievements in recent years. What more is the Government planning to


do to further the one nation principal and ensure a fairer


society still? Under this Government, we have seen income


inequality fall to its lowest level since 1986. The number of people in


absolute poverty is at a record low and we've got the lowest


unemployment rate since 1975. But he's right, there is more to do, and


that's why yesterday we announced a ?40 million for youth organisations


to boost the skills and life chances for young people who are living in


disadvantaged areas. I think that will have a transformational effect


on the lives of some of our most disadvantaged young people and will


help to achieve the fairer society that my honourable friend has


rightly referred to. Thank you, Mr Speaker. A few weeks ago, the


utterly shaming lack of mental health provision in this country was


condemned by our most senior family court judge, as he sought a bed for


a desperately ill teenage girl. The 17-year-old had been restrained no


fewer than 117 times in a place not fit to care for her. Does the Prime


Minister agree with me, in echoing the words of Sir James Mumby, that


the continued failure to tackle our nation's mental health crisis means


the state will have blood on its hands? I'm sure everybody across


this House was concerned to read of the circumstances of the individual


that she has referred to and the treatment that she had received. I


accept that we need to do more in relation to our mental health


services. That's precisely why the Government is putting more money


into mental health, it is why we have introduced a number of


programmes, particularly focusing on the mental health of young people,


it is why we have reduced by 80% the numbers of people being detained in


police cells because of their mental ill-health and, as I say, we've


increased the funding. But of course we need to do more. That's why we


are pushing forward on further change. We are pledged to reforming


outdated mental health laws and we've created targets to improve


standards of care. I agree mental-health is important. This


Government is focusing on it and putting more resources into it.


Thank you, Mr Speaker. Given the importance of the fishing industry


around the whole of the UK and in particular in Banff and Buchan, can


I ask what discussions the government has had with


representatives of fishing in the north-east of Scotland as heart of


the ongoing EU negotiations? I recognise the importance of the


fishing industry to a number of parts of the UK, including my


honourable friend's constituency, and he is right to raise this point.


The Government is engaging with a range of fishing stakeholders,


including a meeting with the Scottish Fishermen's Federation,


which took place in July. We do value our fishing communities and


supporting them will be an important part of the action we will take as


part of the EU. We are working closely with the fishing industry. I


have met some fishermen and spoken to them over the summer about the


industry and we are working with fishermen and others who have a


stake in the industry to make sure we get this right when we leave the


EU. The Prime Minister will be aware of


our initiative last week to have devolution running immediately in


parallel with the talks process, an initiative welcomed by the opinion


in Northern Ireland. If, however, despite our best efforts and


agreement with all the other parties, Sinn Fein continues to


block the restoration of Government in Northern Ireland, will she


confirm to the House what her Government spokesperson said


yesterday evening about the future governance arrangements for Northern


Ireland, in particular, a welcome statement there will be no question


of joint authority or a role for Dublin? The right honourable


gentleman is right about the importance of the talks we have to


restore devolved administration in Northern Ireland. I'm happy to


confirm we'd not be looking at a joint authority. He will be aware...


In relation to the Government of the Republic of Ireland in north/south


co-ordination. The focus should be in trying to ensure we resolve the


current differences and see that devolved administration reasserted


in Northern Ireland. That is what would be best for the people of


Northern Ireland. Thank you Mr Speaker, by refusing to discuss free


trade, does the Prime Minister agree that the European Commission is


damaging the employment and economic interests of their own member


states? For ex-ample endangerings jobs in the German car industry?


Will the Prime Minister call on other heads of European Government


to prevail on the European Commission to end this act of wanton


economic self-harm and start free trade talks which are so clearly in


the interests of everybody? My Right Honourable Friend, the Secretary of


State for exiting the EU was back in Brussels for the further rounds of


negotiations. Those have been productive. We do want to see the


discussions moving on to the future relationship. What this Government


has done and will continue to do is publish a set of position papers


setting out options and ideas for how that deep and special parter


inship can be taken forward in the future. This isn't just a question


of what suits the UK. It is in the interests of the European Union to


have that good, deep and special partnership. What action is the


Prime Minister taking to ensure that my constituents, many of whom are


paying in excess of ?5,000 to travel to London every year, get better


service, not the service the new plans under our Government


introduced. And under these plans, the people of Bedford will lose the


Intercity rail service?s Can I say to the honourable gentleman, if you


look at the record of this Government, we recognise the


importance of rail services. Oh, he says, no we don't. I suggest he


looks at the funding we are putting in to improving rail services across


this country. That is a sign of recognition we have of the


importance of those services. One person sleeping rough is one too


many. Our party's manifesto set out to end rough sleeping by the end of


this Parliament. Given the important role that charities play in this


task, will the Prime Minister join me in paying tribute to the


excellent charity Crisis, which is marking its 5th anniversary? Can I


first of all pay tribute to my honourable friend. This had is an


issue he cares about deeply and he co-chairs the APPG on ending


homelessness. He's right, we had a commitment to reduce rough leaping,


eliminating by 2027. ?50 million has been allocated to 2020 to tackle


homelessness and rough sleeping. I'm also happy to join with him in


paying tribute to Crisis as they mark their 5th anniversary. They've


been doing, over those 50 years, a very important job. I will be


hosting a reception for them to mark their 5th anniversary in Downing


Street later today. The University of Bradford makes a compelling case


for a medical school teaching all types of health professionals. Can


the Prime Minister confirm those universities where the need is the


most will be given the opportunity to set up medical schools? We are


pleased we'll be increasing the number of training places. That does


mean the Department of Health is looking at the whole question of


what places are available where and what new medical schools should be


set up. I'm sure the Secretary of State for Health will be interested


in hearing her pitch for Bradford to have a medical school. In the 1960


and 70s thousands of women were described a pregnancy test which


resulted in profound effects for the babies that followed, including my


constituent Charlotte Fensom who cares as a sister alongside elderly


parents of her brother Steve enwho was pro frownedly affected. Those


families now deserve justice and there should be a chance to launch a


public inquiry into this terrible scandal? My honourable friend has


raised an important issue. She's right to do so. We should recognise


the impact this had on those women who took this hormone pregnancy test


from the late 1950s into 1978. There is an expert working group set up


which is looking into this issue which is due to publish its findings


in the autumn. I would be happy to meet my honourable friend to discuss


this issue with her. Parents in my constituency are disappointed. Over


the summer, they sought to take advantage


THE SPEAKER: Order! An unseemly response. The honourable lady ask a


new member. She's highly articulate and she will be heard! The


honourable lady will be heard! Parents any my constituency are


disappointed. They sought to take advantage of the 30 hours childcare


but due to underfunding found it was not available and not free. Will the


Prime Minister apologise to parents across the country for false


advertising on what over wise would have been a welcome policy? What I


can tell the honourable lady is we are investing ?1 billion of extra


funding every year in early years entitlement. That includes 3 million


a year. This investment is based on work that was done, a plan by the


Department for Education which was described by the National Audit


Office as thorough and wide-ranging. There are important ways that


childcare providers can get more from their funding. The DFE is


offering to support them to do that. Our hourly funding rate is


significantly higher than the average cost of providing a place to


a three or four-year-old. I hope the honourable lady thinks this is


something this Government is delivering on. For the second year


running, planning the festival of engineering, this time with the


honourable member for South West Wiltshire. We hope to inspire 3,000


children to help challenge stereotypes of engineering careers


to help combat the local skills gap and in addition, to highlight


Wiltshire is a hub of engineerings design and technology. Would the


Prime Minister consider attending this wonderful event? Can I


congratulate my honourable friend for her initiative. She does raise


an important point. It is important we see more young people moving into


engineering. Pursuing careers in engineering and describes more


generally. The steps she's taking with our honourable friend is an


important part of this. We need to address those stereotypes. I'm


particularly keen to address women in engineering. We should see more


women. If my diary allows, I will be very happy to attend. Clinicians


don't believe it will be safe, commissioners and providers don't


believe it would be feasible. Isn't it now the time for ministers to


reverse the decision they took in 2011 to close the A department at


King George hospital? Can I say, we have been very clear that where


decisions are taken, we want those decisions to be taken at a local


level with clinical advice. That is what the Department of Health is


doing. As home sectsry, the Prime Minister was one of the first to


appreciate the alarming extent of child sexual exploitation and


respond to calls to set up the historic abuse inquiry. Does she


agree those who expose to root out the criminal perpetrators for the


horrific crimes they commit especially in the face of cultural


sensitivities should be encouraged and promoted not gagged? My


honourable friend has raised a very sensitive and important issue. As he


says, was an issue I took a particular interest in when I was


Home Secretary. Anyone who abuses a child must be stopped regardless of


race, age or gender. Child exploiltation happens in all areas


of the country. It can take many different forms. I'm clear and the


Government is clear political or cultural sensitivities must not get


in the way of pro venting and uncovering child abuse. The freedom


to speak out must apply to those in positions of responsibility,


including ministers and shadow ministers on both sides of this


House. If we turn a blind eye to this abuse, as has happened too much


in the past, then more crimes will be committed and more children will


be suffering in silence. Thank you. Glenfield's children's heart surgery


unit has some of the best outcomes in the country, including mortality


rates lower than the national average. One of the Professor'S says


proposals to Church of England children's heart surgery are


embarrassing and plucked out of thin air. Can I ask the Prime Minister to


ensure the final decision is made on the basis of sound clinical evidence


and when this House is sitting so MPs can question ministers about NHS


England's plans? The honourable lady is aware there are many ways MPs can


question ministers about plans. As I said in answer to one of her


honourable friends earlier. The decisions about the future structure


of the NHS, Sir veries and provision are being taken on the basis of


clinical needs and clinical evidence. Britain is among the


world's leading digital economies. As we leave the EU, technology will


be crucial to a successful Brexit from the Northern Irish border to


customs controls. Does the Prime Minister agree that Brexit can


kick-start a further wave of ding stall investment and working with


the industry, a Brexit technology task force could help her do that?


My honourable friend is right about the position the UK holds in


relation to science and innovation. We're already a leading destination.


We've some of the world's top universities, three of which are in


the world's top ten. We've more Nobel Prize winners than any country


outside of the United States. We've proud history of cutting edge rest


search, science and took nothingy. Brexit gives us an opportunity to


give a further kick-start to our position in relation to the digital


economy. We'll want to attract investment from all over the world


in relation to this and work with industry to ensure that can be done.


In her conference speech last year, the Prime Minister said existing


workers legal right will continue to be guaranteed in law as long Asim


aPrime Minister. Can the Prime Minister tell the House how long


that will be? Can I say to the honourable gentleman, that is a


commitment that I'm happy to stand by in relation to improving workers'


rights. That's something we've den doing as a Conservative Party and


something I'll continue to do as Prime Minister. Mr Speaker, tomorrow


is world awareness day which highlights this devastating muscle


wasting condition which affects young men. If as anticipated the


current development of a more reliable newborn screening test goes


ahead, psychological support must be readily available to any affected


families. Will the Prime Minister provide assurance to families that


NHS England will develop such a vital psychological support? This is


an important aspect of this terrible condition. I recognise the


importance of ensuring people can access appropriate psychological


support when they have a young family member diagnosed with this


serious health problem. In relation to the new screening test, I


understand muscular Diss fie UK is working with NHS England's advisory


groups to understand how best to meet the needs of parents and


careers following the diagnosis of this. I'm grateful to my Right


Honourable Friend for raising Well, it started late and it


finished late, although probably in line with previous PMQs. As


predicted by everybody here, or certainly Laura and myself, Jeremy


Corbyn didn't go on but sit or the leaked immigration paper. You


focused instead on workers' rights and conditions including pay. You


referenced the McDonald's strike and John McDonnell the Shadow Chancellor


joined the strikers and Jeremy Corbyn called on Theresa May to take


action on things like C Rowe hours contracts and cited the actions of


Sports Direct and asked the Prime Minister condemned the chief


executive. He moved onto corporate governance and accused the Prime


Minister of watering down manifesto commitments to legislate for new


rules to give workers more say. And finally he talked about the nurses'


protest outside the Houses of Parliament and called on the


Government to lift the 1% pay cap on public sector workers. At the very


end there was a question about the Prime Minister's leadership, to


which Theresa May said that the Government is doing a lot of work on


workers' rights. Make of that what you will. As we expected, Jeremy


Corbyn stayed away from the two big issues of the day but in terms of


those issues, McDonald's on the public sector pay cap, he wasn't


just raising them one after the other. What was significant was, he


was raising those issues where many people perceive Theresa May made


promises and has had to go back on them, so on the energy pay cap all


on cracking down on big bosses' pay and if that gives a signal but that


is the kind of area that Jeremy Corbyn wants to explore this autumn,


the issues around people who are having a hard time making ends meet


and how Theresa May promised on the steps of Downing Street to look


after people who are finding it hard to get on, but some of the things


according to Labour that she suggested just have come to naught.


So I think that tells us something about where he believes the


Government is vulnerable but I think as ever, when we've seen these two


clash at the dispatch box, there is always a sense that they are sort of


talking at cross purposes, sort of holding back from really locking


more than getting into the issues. I also think it was telling not just


because of that cheeky question at the end from the Labour MP Phil


Wilson from Sedgefield about how long Theresa May would-be Prime


Minister... Throughout that session, she was surrounded by Damian Green,


her de facto deputy, on one side and Philip Hammond on the other, who


couldn't help but stifle a very big yawn. It looked to me like she has


these posh bouncers in grey suits flanking her, which is a bit of a


visual metaphor for how ministers and with her souped up Number Ten


operation, they are trying to hold things together at a time they know


is going to be very, very difficult indeed. Did she appear nervous to


you? Adamant she appeared nervous. She's spent years of the dispatch


box and didn't appear to be particularly rattled by any of it.


-- I don't think she appeared nervous. Were either of them trading


zingers and on top on? No, they weren't but I think that every of


attack from Jeremy Corbyn could be quite fruitful. There was something


of a news story sneaked in, that Theresa May confirmed the Transport


Secretary will look at extending the law on dangerous driving to cover


cyclists in response to a question by Heidi Alexander after a terrible


court case over a constituent who was killed. Robin Walker, when it


comes to public sector pay, do workers deserve a pay rise? As the


Prime Minister said, we value enormously the contribution of


public sector workers and we want to make sure we get the proper advice


on this so we can move forward and take the right action. You are the


ones that give the advice. The Treasury sets the reader to terms of


what pay bodies actually do. We want the public sector pay bodies to look


at this. Are you getting advice? We want to have better retention of


full-time staff and not too many agency workers. It is very important


we take... But it is also important that we set out the context for


this, which is that with public spending facing constrained, because


we inherited a very large deficit, we have to make sure we can also


maintain the investment in public sector staff, the numbers of staff,


and we're seeing a huge recruitment campaign for the NHS to address some


of the issues raised in that session, like mental health, so we


need to strike a careful balance to this right it Should nurses get a


pay rise? Nurses will get a pay rise. Beyond 1%? We have to take


into account all the evidence and take the right decision for the


long-term interests of our public services. Jeremy Corbyn says, quite


rightly, that wages are falling behind prices because of rising


inflation. How much beyond 1% would you give to public sector workers?


They should be getting at least inflation. 2.6%, around that? Making


up for the fact that they had depressed wages for a long time, it


should be more than that in the first instance. We were clear at the


election that we would be finding an extra ?4 billion to scrap the 1% cap


and what I think we saw from the Prime Minister today and from Robin,


they failed to learn the lessons they ought to have learned of the


election. The country was very clear, I think, that they do believe


that the Tories have made a mess of our economy, that we've seen rising


GDP, 12% increase since they came in, but wages have only gone up by


6% and that means in real terms, for most people, ordinary workers, they


are worse off now than they were in 2010. Jeremy has been absolutely


clear that we can do something about that and unless the Tories catch on


with that, all the relaunch as she wants to have she can have, it will


make no difference. They refused to say today that they would increase


public sector pay, she refused to acknowledge we've seen cuts in


education spending, she is backtracking on her election


promises and the public will see it. Isn't that what happened in the


election result? Wasn't that the message that came out loud and


clear, that since 2010 this idea that we are all in it together has


actually meant that the burden of wages falling behind prices has


fallen on the lowest paid? What we've seen is rising wages, the


movement for a national living wage, and that means the lowest paid


getting paid substantially more. What we also need to see is reforms


to tax to take more people out of income tax. That is something that


Labour never supported or put in their manifesto. We need to ensure


people keep more of the money that they earn but of course we need to


look across our public services at how we invest in and retain staff


and that process that the Government is doing. Working people are worse


off in this country today than they were when you came to power in 2010.


I disagree. You cannot disagree with the plain facts. All of the


increases, the personal allowance you talked about, do not offset the


fact that because of things like increasing VAT, which Theresa May


again today failed to rule out doing in the next Parliament, in this


current Parliament, all of those changes are not offset... There are


other changes. There are other changes we have made, such as the


introduction of a national living wage, substantial increases for the


people who are lowest paid, such as looking at zero hours contracts.


We've got hundreds of thousands more people in work. There are more than


a million people on zero hours contracts. It is not a million


people. It is 850,000. It was higher. Why didn't you do anything


about it when you were in power? The reality is, zero hours contracts


were not a feature of the economic landscape of this country when


Labour left office. It is now. It is the biggest symbol of the gross and


security that most working people currently face and the things Jeremy


Corbyn raised today, McDonald's workers, are absolutely prime


examples. One final thing, when it comes to Brexit... Owen Smith, I


didn't get a chance to ask you earlier, are you still in favour of


a second referendum? Well, I think that leaving the European Union is


going to be about our economy and the only way in which we could ever


overturn that is if were a further public vote. But I don't see any


real public appetite for that, although I do see some change in


people's perception of how they were lied to during the Brexit


referendum. I think more and more people, even those who voted Brexit,


realise they were told a pack of its. We have to leave it there and


say thank you very much. Jeremy Corbyn turned up at GQ


magazine's Men Of The Year awards He was there to present the grime


artist Stormzy with the award for solo artist of the year -


there they are together - and Stormzy apparently took


the opportunity of calling the Prime The Labour leader didn't win the


prize for the politician of the year but he is, it seems, hot cultural


property at the moment, because London's Victoria and Albert museum


has announced that it has acquired a new T-shirt bearing his name.


Let's find out more from our reporter Elizabeth Glinka -


If there is one thing you thought Jeremy Corbyn wouldn't become it is


probably a fashion icon but apparently we have all been wrong


and here is that T-shirt, bearing his name. I'm joined by the curator


of this display at the V and it. Why this T-shirt? We've acquired this


T-shirt is part of our rapid response collecting activities.


Design is very much a means to understand the world around us and


this is an object that enables us to ask questions and think about design


in terms of the recent general election. Thinking about that idea


of design, we have seen loads of Corbyn T-shirts over the last couple


of years, bootleg T-shirts. Why in particular this one? There are a


variety of reasons as to why this is of interest to. The NICE swoosh logo


is extremely well-known and turning these brand identities around for


effect is some builders is well-established. We have a


president in the collection. But it is about streetwear and contemporary


fashion. This object was the most popular of that type for this


general election. How common is it to get a transferable between


politics and fashion? It happens all the time. Design, fashion, it is all


inherently political and this is an object that enables us to think


about what role did social media play, and why is digital now analog?


Here we have a T-shirt that you and I might wear in our daily lives.


Thank you. We might put in the cause a political balance, I have to tell


you that T-shirts for other political parties are available.


Thank you that equalling out on product placement.


So, that's the one in the V, and I've got one here.


It's made by a company called Bristol Street Wear and we thought


Owen might like to pop it on to show the new spirit of unity


We don't just do mugs, we give... Our generosity knows no bounds! We


haven't actually got time, luckily for you, to ask you to put it on.


There's just time to put you out of your misery and give


And we have a winner... Well done! Don't break the table!


Michael is the winner of that Daily Politics mug.


Thanks to all my guests, especially Robin and Owen.


The one o'clock news is starting over on BBC One now.


I'll be back at noon tomorrow with all the big


Owen Quine - he's a very famous and good novelist.


He's gone off before, only this time it's been ten days.


I'm an investigator. His wife's very worried for him.


Owen has written a very thinly disguised slandering


of the people who've tried to help him.


Quine knew a lot of damaging stuff...


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