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Hello and welcome to
the Daily Politics. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
The Prime Minister points the finger
of blame at Russia for the nerve | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
agent attack in Salisbury and gives
Moscow a deadline of midnight | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
tonight to explain itself. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:54 | |
President Putin, BBC News. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:54 | |
Is Russia behind the poisoning
of Sergey Skripal? | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
TRANSLATION: We are busy
with agriculture here to create | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
the conditions for people's lives. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
And you talk to me
about some tragedies. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
First work out what actually
happened there and then | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
we will talk about it. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
Vladimir Putin brushes
off accusations of involvement. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:15 | |
Meanwhile the British ambassador
in Moscow is summoned | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
to the Russian Foreign Ministry
as the diplomatic row escalates. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
After nearly eight years of tax
rises and public spending | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
squeezes, we test the public
mood about austerity. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Has it been worth the effort? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:32 | |
I think there's been far too many
cuts to public services, there's | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
been cuts in this borough
specifically to local services such | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
as closing parks in the evening and
things like that. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
Well, that debate forms the backdrop
to the Chancellor's first ever | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
Spring Statement, when he'll update
us about the state of the economy. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
We'll have all the
action live at 12:30. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
All that in the next
hour and a half. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Yes, a full 90 minutes today | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
to allow us to cover
the Chancellor's statement live | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
as well as all the reaction. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
And with me throughout
are the Shadow Treasury | 0:02:06 | 0:02:12 | |
Minister Annaliese Dodds
and the Cabinet Office | 0:02:12 | 0:02:18 | |
minister Oliver Dowden. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:19 | |
Welcome to you both. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:20 | |
First today, the British Government
has given Moscow until midnight | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
tonight to explain why
a Russian-made nerve agent was used | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
in the poison attack in Salisbury. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:26 | |
The Prime Minister says
it is "highly likely" Russia | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
was responsible for the attack
against the former Russian double | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
agent Sergei Skripal
and his daughter, Yulia. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:38 | |
A short while ago a meeting
of the Government's emergency | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
committee Cobra began,
chaired by the Home Secretary | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
to discuss the response. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:43 | |
The Prime Minister made a statement
in the Commons yesterday | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
and was followed by the Labour
leader, Jeremy Corbyn. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:52 | |
It was an indiscriminate
and reckless act against | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
the United Kingdom, putting
the lives of innocent | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
civilians at risk. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
And we will not tolerate such
a brazen attempt to murder innocent | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
civilians on our soil. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
The events in Salisbury on the 4th | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
of March have appalled the country,
and need thorough investigation. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
The local community and public
services involved need reassurance | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
and the resources necessary. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:17 | |
The action the Government takes once
the facts are clear, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
needs to be both decisive
and proportionate and focussed | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
on reducing conflicts and tensions
rather than increasing them. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:31 | |
Since the Prime Minister's
statement, the diplomatic row | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
between London and
Moscow has escalated. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Our Diplomatic Correspondent James
Landale can bring us up to speed. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:44 | |
What has the Russian response been
so far, bearing in mind the clock is | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
ticking? So far the Russians have
once again denied any involvement in | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
events in Salisbury and specifically
the Russian Foreign Minister survey | 0:03:56 | 0:04:03 | |
line -- Sergey Lavrov says they want
more information. They say the | 0:04:03 | 0:04:10 | |
British government has not provided
them with any material, the alleged | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
nerve agent used in the attack, they
also save the British government is | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
not following the usual protocols
under what's called the office for | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
the prevention of chemical weapons,
which is a convention we are and the | 0:04:22 | 0:04:27 | |
Russians are signed up to. They say
there are certain procedures and | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
timelines which the British are not
following. So a fairly predictable | 0:04:32 | 0:04:37 | |
response so far. In terms of the
response from our allies, there has | 0:04:37 | 0:04:42 | |
been broad support for Theresa May,
particularly from Rex Tillerson in | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
the United States, but what does
that mean in practice? There have | 0:04:46 | 0:04:51 | |
been warm words of support, yes from
Rex Tillerson and other world | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
leaders, President Macron spoke to
the Prime Minister yesterday. I have | 0:04:56 | 0:05:01 | |
to say, there is certainly a gap
between the views of Rex Tillerson, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:08 | |
the State Department and the White
House. The White House is insisting | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
that whilst they support the British
and condemn what happened in | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Salisbury, they have been more
reluctant to blame the Russians | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
where is Rex Tillerson has accepted
the British analysis. The question | 0:05:19 | 0:05:24 | |
is, is there anything practical that
the British can get in an | 0:05:24 | 0:05:30 | |
international forum that in anyway
puts meaningful pressure on the | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
Kremlin? At the moment we are
getting words of support. In the | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
long run is there any hard-core
diplomacy across the piece, whether | 0:05:38 | 0:05:44 | |
EU, Nato, anywhere, that the British
can get enough of an alliance | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
together to put pressure on the
Kremlin? That then begs the question | 0:05:48 | 0:05:53 | |
of some debate about what we should
do with regard to the World Cup is | 0:05:53 | 0:05:58 | |
being held in Russia. Tell us more
about some of the suggestions around | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
that. Boris Johnson has been
speaking this morning and refusing | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
to go into the detail of what the
British government may or may not do | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
tomorrow if they don't get a
satisfactory response from the | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Russians. My own view is the
government will be reluctant to | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
organise any kind of formal,
official sporting boycott of the | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
World Cup. I think we will get some
officials not going but they know | 0:06:22 | 0:06:27 | |
that will be a hard ass to get other
countries in joining them in not | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
sending footballers there. We are
more likely to seek domestic focused | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
reaction, potentially the expulsion
of Russian diplomats and new | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
measures to crack down on wealthy
Russians living in London, and more | 0:06:41 | 0:06:47 | |
pressure on the international stage
as well. Thank you. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
I'm joined now by Peter
Ricketts, the first | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
National Security Adviser
during the coalition Government, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
and now a crossbench peer
in the House Of Lords. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
Welcome to the programme. Let's
return to what Theresa May said | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
initially in her statement yesterday
to the house, she said it was highly | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
likely Russia was responsible for
the poisoning of Sergei Skripal, and | 0:07:06 | 0:07:13 | |
it was either a direct attack by the
Russian government or they had | 0:07:13 | 0:07:18 | |
somehow lost control of this nerve
agent. Does that give the Russians | 0:07:18 | 0:07:23 | |
get out? Not really I don't think,
because this is military grade nerve | 0:07:23 | 0:07:28 | |
agent. It should be kept in the
highest conditions of security so it | 0:07:28 | 0:07:35 | |
is offering them a choice between
saying incompetence or deeply | 0:07:35 | 0:07:41 | |
implicated in the attack. What did
you make of the statement and the | 0:07:41 | 0:07:46 | |
tone? It was very good, serious,
clear and measured and gave the | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
Russians an opportunity to come back
with any comments they wanted to | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
make. The problem will be, assuming
the Russians don't come back with | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
anything which is most likely,
producing a package of measures | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
which lives up to the expectations
created by the gravity of the | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
situation on her statement. It is
extremely serious what's happened, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
using a chemical weapon on the
streets of Britain and Russia being | 0:08:11 | 0:08:16 | |
likely to be responsible. What could
match that rhetoric in your mind? | 0:08:16 | 0:08:22 | |
The sort of thing is James Landale
was talking about will be on the | 0:08:22 | 0:08:28 | |
list, expulsions, security crowd in
the Russian Embassy, I would hope | 0:08:28 | 0:08:34 | |
not the ambassador because we need
him to be passing messages to | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Moscow. Going after the money, the
idea of powers to seize money from | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
people who have committed human
rights abuses, that would be | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
powerful but not a game changer.
I've suggested there should be more | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
activity with our Nato partners. A
chemical attack is something Nato | 0:08:50 | 0:08:56 | |
should be interested in. Not saying
an attack on one is an attack on us | 0:08:56 | 0:09:03 | |
all. But putting it on the agenda.
There is a summit coming up. We | 0:09:03 | 0:09:09 | |
should be having made to think
differently about Russia, perhaps | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
changing the dispositions of forces
in Eastern Europe. That is a longer | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
term thing but quite a potent area
to be looking at. But would any of | 0:09:16 | 0:09:22 | |
those things? Because to some extent
we have done that in the past, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
sanctions, you could argue the
cupboard is bare in terms of what | 0:09:26 | 0:09:32 | |
Britain alone can do. Will any of
that have an impact on Putin's | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
thinking? The only thing that will
have an impact is things that hurt | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
the Russians' reputation or possibly
serious financial measures that | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
really begin to bite. Realistically
we are not going to change Russian | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
minds about a pattern of behaviour
that goes back over decades but we | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
have to show them to do this with
impunity, that there will be costs | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
and that's why we need to do this in
an international setting with as | 0:09:58 | 0:10:04 | |
much solidarity as possible. That
solidarity that James Landale was | 0:10:04 | 0:10:09 | |
also talking about, what would that
mean in practical terms? What would | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
our allies, you mentioned Nato, what
would they really be prepared to do | 0:10:14 | 0:10:20 | |
to show that solidarity? I rather
agree with James that we will set | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
ourselves up for failure if we go
after a boycott of the World Cup | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
because I don't think people will
want to withdraw their teams unless | 0:10:28 | 0:10:33 | |
things get very much worse. I think
the financial side because there's a | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
lot of Russian money in London
obviously, but also other European | 0:10:37 | 0:10:42 | |
capitals, and the US have already
taken some Draconian measures. If | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
there can be more practical
follow-up on seizure of assets of | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
people we have serious doubts about,
that could be something. But it will | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
be difficult. The Russian regime are
hard to influence but we have to do | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
our best in as wide company as
possible. Oliver Dowden, let's talk | 0:10:59 | 0:11:05 | |
about those powers because Jeremy
Corbyn | 0:11:05 | 0:11:13 | |
Corbyn criticised yesterday. Was it
a mistake to block the amendments? A | 0:11:16 | 0:11:22 | |
lot of the proposals in there have
already been implemented through the | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
Proceeds of Crime Act, we brought
forward an amendment enabling us to | 0:11:26 | 0:11:31 | |
seize proceeds when they are | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
seize proceeds when they are related
to that. The Foreign Office has made | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
it clear we will look at this. There
are issues over whether the | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
amendment works but I don't think
there's a real division over it. So | 0:11:42 | 0:11:48 | |
what is the problem, Annaliese
Dodds? I saw the government stopping | 0:11:48 | 0:11:56 | |
the debate after 25 minutes because
they thought they might lose a vote | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
over having these sanctions. They
are named after the person who was | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
imprisoned and tortured in Russia
when he was acting for a US | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
businessman. They are designed to
target those sanctions at abuses of | 0:12:10 | 0:12:16 | |
human rights on a grand scale. We
tried to get that provision in | 0:12:16 | 0:12:20 | |
through the bill. The government
shut down debate on it which meant | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
we couldn't look at other
amendments. Do you think, despite | 0:12:24 | 0:12:33 | |
your reservations, that should be
something the government should | 0:12:33 | 0:12:41 | |
support? With the Proceeds of Crime
Act we had the powers to go after | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
these gross human rights violations.
Further measures need to be taken. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
At report stage, which is when the
house will vote on this, we will be | 0:12:50 | 0:12:55 | |
looking out seeing if it's necessary
to bring forward further measures. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
Let's look at the cyber options, a
cyber counterattack. Would it be | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
effective? I don't know exactly what
they have in mind. I'm sure the UK | 0:13:04 | 0:13:14 | |
has some powerful assets in that
area. I am sceptical that an | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
offensive cyber attack against the
Russians is going to work and might | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
not produce an immediate and even
harder punch back. I wonder whether | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
it would be more effective to do
more calling out of manipulative | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
Russian efforts in our media, in our
politics. In France we saw during | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
President macro's presidential
campaign the Russians tried this | 0:13:36 | 0:13:43 | |
manipulative stuff in France and he
called them out -- President Macron. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
It is hard to do that kind of
manipulation in the full transparent | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
glare of publicity so that will be
more effective in my mind. We will | 0:13:52 | 0:13:57 | |
talk about Russia today in a moment,
but this cyber counterattack, what | 0:13:57 | 0:14:03 | |
would that involve? There is a
process for this, which the Prime | 0:14:03 | 0:14:08 | |
Minister set out yesterday. We have
these two potential scenarios, the | 0:14:08 | 0:14:12 | |
Russians doing it directly or they
have lost control. We make a | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
judgment on that tomorrow and then
the Prime Minister will bring | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
forward a range of | 0:14:20 | 0:14:26 | |
measures if it's the case Russia is
involved. I don't think it's helpful | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
to start speculating in detail on
those but we have already discussed | 0:14:35 | 0:14:36 | |
lots of things, for example going
after Russians linked to the Kremlin | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
travelling. Would you block wealthy
Russians coming to London who have | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
strong links to Vladimir Putin?
Let's allow the Prime Minister to | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
come up with the options tomorrow.
So that would be an option? It's a | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
decision for the Prime Minister but
nothing is off the table. There was | 0:14:51 | 0:14:56 | |
an issue about party politics
yesterday, Annaliese Dodds, Jeremy | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
Corbyn raised the issue of donations
to the Conservative Party by | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
citizens of Russian origin. Was it
the right moment to make that party | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
political statement, just after the
Prime Minister had made and | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
obviously set these serious words
about our national security? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:20 | |
We need more transparency. We need
to know what is going on in terms of | 0:15:20 | 0:15:28 | |
influence being applied across the
political system in our media and | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
the financial issues. Having more
transparency is positive. It was | 0:15:31 | 0:15:38 | |
right to mention it. People may not
like it but we must be more open | 0:15:38 | 0:15:43 | |
about these issues.
Was that an appropriate moment when | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
talking about national security,
rather than saying we stand | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
shoulder-to-shoulder with our Prime
Minister? | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
Jeremy Corbyn did express support
for the investigation, he said we | 0:15:56 | 0:16:01 | |
should not move to a situation
quickly where we have an escalation, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
we need to be proportionate and
thoughtful. And I would agree we | 0:16:05 | 0:16:13 | |
shouldn't jump to conclusions,
Jeremy said that. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
I would say, in terms of being
proportionate, of course, but this | 0:16:16 | 0:16:24 | |
is a significant escalation, where a
nerve agent is used on the streets | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
of a town in England and a police
officer has fallen victim. That | 0:16:28 | 0:16:33 | |
necessitates a serious response.
Absolutely. I also think we need to | 0:16:33 | 0:16:42 | |
be careful if we have measures, if
there is found to have been that | 0:16:42 | 0:16:49 | |
kind of involvement, if we have
measures targeting a population, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
those can be offered a great way for
that population to end up hating our | 0:16:53 | 0:17:01 | |
country. But proportionate targeted
measures like those sanctions, | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
against money-laundering, financial
sanctions, we can be in a better | 0:17:05 | 0:17:12 | |
place than something interpreted as
an attack on all of the Russian | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
people. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:16 | |
Now, if pre-statement
briefings are to be believed, | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
today's economic figures will signal
the beginning of | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
the end of austerity. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,
says we're not out of the woods yet, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
but there's light at the end
of the tunnel. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
So, has austerity been worth it? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:30 | |
Our reporter Greg Dawson has taken
the moodbox to Bexleyheath | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
in South East London. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
Philip Hammond made it clear at the
weekend he does not think the era of | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
austerity is over, he is worried
about debt levels. Even this most | 0:17:42 | 0:17:47 | |
cautious of toddlers says he can see
the light. Our mood box question is, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:53 | |
was austerity worth it? From my
perspective, the Government is doing | 0:17:53 | 0:18:00 | |
a good job. It has been working.
Definitely. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:10 | |
I don't think any of it has worked.
The whole country is in meltdown. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:19 | |
Between the boxes. I would say yes.
We don't have a between option. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:30 | |
We don't have a between option. No.
I just think they are always making | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
mistakes and telling us we are going
to get over it and we haven't. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:43 | |
They are saying... I'm on TV! We
seem to be better off now. But I | 0:18:43 | 0:18:50 | |
don't know if it is true because the
pound is an worth as much as it used | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
to be.
-- is not worth. | 0:18:54 | 0:19:03 | |
You said people don't want to talk
about economic policy. Let's head | 0:19:05 | 0:19:10 | |
off to the market. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:18 | |
Definitely not. Far too many cuts to
public services, cuts in this | 0:19:18 | 0:19:27 | |
borough to local services such as
closing parks in the evenings. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:34 | |
No, no. Because public service as
had been cut and everyone is feeling | 0:19:34 | 0:19:41 | |
the pinch. -- services have been
cut. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:50 | |
Will you stop -- swap some oranges
for a plastic ball, what think? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:56 | |
Yes. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
For years the Government has been
selling the message all those tough | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
the natural positions would
eventually be worth it to balance | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
the books but the people of Bexley
Heath are not buying it. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
It may be unscientific but the
message was clear from the people of | 0:20:19 | 0:20:25 | |
Bexleyheath, there is real weariness
with austerity. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:30 | |
Of course there is weariness after
seven years but it has been worth | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
it. Let us look at employment, 3
million jobs created giving | 0:20:34 | 0:20:40 | |
security. Secondly, we are living
within our means, we have reduced | 0:20:40 | 0:20:46 | |
the deficit. And debt is falling as
a proportion of GDP. How much? | 0:20:46 | 0:20:53 | |
Continuing to fall for the first
time in many years. The economy is | 0:20:53 | 0:21:00 | |
growing, over eight years. Our
balanced approach between reducing | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
the deficit and investing in public
services has been worth it. We will | 0:21:04 | 0:21:10 | |
talk about debt but let us take
employment. You cannot say the | 0:21:10 | 0:21:17 | |
employment figures haven't been
healthy for the last few years and | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
there has been economic growth even
if it hasn't been as much as | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
expected. Particularly on growth we
have been falling behind many | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
countries and in 2017 growth was at
its slowest since 2012. Slower | 0:21:29 | 0:21:36 | |
growth than expected which has been
a problem. Employment, nobody will | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
say having more people in enjoyment
is a bad thing. Worryingly, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:46 | |
different to other countries, we
have much more people going into | 0:21:46 | 0:21:54 | |
insecure employment. 1 billion
people on zero-hours contracts. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
Large numbers who in theory are self
employed but it is disguised. A big | 0:21:57 | 0:22:04 | |
problem. Record numbers are in work
but in poverty. There is a myth | 0:22:04 | 0:22:12 | |
these 3 million jobs created are low
skilled, they are not, three | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
quarters are high skilled. A myth
that they are part-time, over 75% of | 0:22:16 | 0:22:21 | |
full-time. In terms of zero hours,
we have legislated to ban exclusive | 0:22:21 | 0:22:29 | |
zero-hours contracts. What you
cannot dispute is the fact more | 0:22:29 | 0:22:36 | |
people who are in work are now
ending up in poverty. Record numbers | 0:22:36 | 0:22:43 | |
of children in working families but
in poverty. A reflection of the | 0:22:43 | 0:22:49 | |
nature of the Plymouth market. And
the squeeze on wages which | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
continues. -- the employment market.
The latest figures are more | 0:22:52 | 0:23:00 | |
promising with wage growth. First of
all, we have introduced a national | 0:23:00 | 0:23:07 | |
living wage worth £2000 a year to
the lowest paid, and cut taxes, some | 0:23:07 | 0:23:13 | |
working full-time on the minimum
wage will no longer pay tax at all. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:20 | |
We will return to the issue of debt. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Earlier this month,
you might have seen one | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
former Prime Minister,
David Cameron, and his former | 0:23:24 | 0:23:26 | |
Chancellor, George Osborne, hailing
the fact that the UK had finally | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
eliminated its deficit
on day-to-day spending. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
Austerity, they tweeted,
was "the right thing to do". | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
But what about the debt? | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
Here's our Ellie, to explain
the state of the nation's finances. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:41 | |
The deficit is the difference
between the amount the Government | 0:23:41 | 0:23:45 | |
spends and how much it receives
in taxes and other income. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
When the Government spends
more than it takes in, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
it borrows and that borrowing
is added to the overall debt pile. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
The UK's debt is estimated to be
just under £1.8 trillion at the end | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
of this financial year. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
To give you some idea,
that's a lot of zeros on the end. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
I mean, that could buy you nearly
a third of all the houses | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
in the whole of the UK,
around 4,000 da Vinci masterpieces, | 0:24:08 | 0:24:13 | |
or if football's your
thing, 8,955 Neymars. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
It is something the Chancellor has
been thinking about, too. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
Take it away, Phil. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:19 | |
We need to get our debt lower. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
I think most people in this country
would be horrified to be reminded | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
that we have £65,000 worth of public
debt for every household | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
in this country. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:31 | |
We're agreed, it's a lot of money. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
It doesn't mean much
until you measure it | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
against the country's GDP,
the size of the country's economy. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
In the last normal year before
the financial crisis, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
debt was 41.1% of our GDP. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
That's ballooned since then
to what they think is a peak | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
this year of 86.5%. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
Now that matters because the UK has
to pay interest on the debt, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
currently about 2% of GDP,
so it's quite a lot of cash. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
But the experts don't get worried
until that number reaches about 12% | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
at which point they say a government
is likely to default on its debt. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
We're not quite there yet. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:11 | |
Now bear in mind, as long
as there is a deficit, | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
debt will continue to rise in cash
terms because the Government | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
will carry on needing to borrow. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:19 | |
Britain's current spending deficit
is believed to have been eliminated | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
which is why the Government thinks
debt is slowly coming | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
down as a share of GDP. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:27 | |
Phew. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
Got that? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:36 | |
In a few moments we will cross to
the House Of Commons and Philip | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
Hammond with the Spring Statement.
We will cover it in full. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Well, I'm joined now by Paul
Johnson, director of the Institute | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
For Fiscal Studies, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:48 | |
and our political editor
Laura Kuenssberg. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:53 | |
David Cameron and George Osborne
were celebrating the fact they said | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
the day-to-day guest on current
spending had been eliminated. The | 0:25:57 | 0:26:02 | |
focus is on the debt, is it coming
down in any meaningful way? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
We are not sure the day-to-day
deficit is eliminated, we will have | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
to see the numbers.
The debt is pretty steady, it has | 0:26:11 | 0:26:17 | |
stopped writing, around 85% of
national income which is pretty | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
high, not as high as some other G-7
countries but twice as high | 0:26:21 | 0:26:28 | |
pre-crisis. My guess is we will see
it coming to a plateau over three | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
years.
It has stopped going up. In terms of | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
what Philip Hammond will say, what
do you think despite the fact he | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
doesn't want this to be a set piece,
will be the headline? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:45 | |
We will struggle with the headline
in terms of policy announcements. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
Unless the Treasury have done the
most remarkable job at keeping their | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
cards close to their chest, there
won't be big policy announcements. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
The headlines will be about the
forecasts. The borrowing will be | 0:26:58 | 0:27:03 | |
down relative to where we thought it
was in autumn, a long way down this | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
year relative to work the budget a
year ago was suggesting. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
How much? Last budget, last March,
58 billion of borrowing, it might be | 0:27:11 | 0:27:21 | |
down to the low 40s. Where will it
be in three years? If I had to | 0:27:21 | 0:27:26 | |
guess, not much lower than we
thought. With that head room and | 0:27:26 | 0:27:34 | |
perhaps higher tax receipts that
have been expected, how much | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
pressure is there on the Chancellor
to turn on the taps in terms of | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
spending?
A lot of pressure not just from the | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
opposition but his own bench, on the
health service, defence, on local | 0:27:46 | 0:27:51 | |
councils, people are queueing up in
the Conservative Party to say to | 0:27:51 | 0:27:57 | |
him, with the progress made,
frankly, we have been telling voters | 0:27:57 | 0:28:03 | |
for eight years this is worth it and
there will be at some point | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
something better, let us show them
the sunshine. But Philip Hammond is | 0:28:08 | 0:28:15 | |
one person in the Cabinet, and they
don't all think like this, who | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
thinks it would be wrong to do that,
although the day-to-day deficit is | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
pretty much gone, in his view, we
may have paid off the overdraft but | 0:28:24 | 0:28:29 | |
we have a hefty mortgage which had
to come first. People will be | 0:28:29 | 0:28:33 | |
looking for clues that when we get
to autumn, the next couple of years, | 0:28:33 | 0:28:40 | |
it is their any political space to
make any hint? We will come on to | 0:28:40 | 0:28:52 | |
the long-term indications.
To come back to this extra cash he | 0:28:52 | 0:28:57 | |
might have, would it be wise to bank
that will spend it? | 0:28:57 | 0:29:01 | |
He won't spend it today it would be
surprising. It is difficult to think | 0:29:01 | 0:29:06 | |
about extra cash. Relative to a few
months ago, all relative to what | 0:29:06 | 0:29:16 | |
George Osbourne was thinking a
couple of years ago. There is still | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
the same set of constraints and
choices. What Philip Hammond will | 0:29:19 | 0:29:26 | |
believe is as these numbers go up
and down, that doesn't change | 0:29:26 | 0:29:31 | |
anything underlying. He believes
they shouldn't be spending that | 0:29:31 | 0:29:37 | |
extra money but the choice today is
essentially the same as six months | 0:29:37 | 0:29:42 | |
ago. The politics for the
Conservatives, if you keep saying | 0:29:42 | 0:29:47 | |
there is light at the end of the
tunnel, voters may turn to the | 0:29:47 | 0:29:53 | |
Labour Party. Light at the end of
the tunnel, there may be a change in | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
the other direction. You are right.
The political dynamics have changed. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:05 | |
Between 2010 and 2015, this was the
central message of the Conservative | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
Party, we are the only ones you can
trust to sort out this mess. We saw | 0:30:08 | 0:30:14 | |
in the general election, people
thought, we have had enough. There | 0:30:14 | 0:30:22 | |
are plenty inside the Conservative
Party who worry unless there is a | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
change of tone about what to do with
tax payers's money, at the next | 0:30:27 | 0:30:34 | |
election, it will be a lost cause.
There is a generational tension, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
further down the ranks, ministers,
they are frustrated that number 11 | 0:30:38 | 0:30:53 | |
has appeared to be immovable on
this. As we reported, there is an | 0:30:53 | 0:30:59 | |
acceptance around the Cabinet table
money at Italy for the NHS will have | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
to be found in greater amounts. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:06 | |
Should Philip Hammond send a strong
signal that looking forward your | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
party and government will commit
more money to the NHS? We have | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
already committed more money. But
I'm asking more money. We have three | 0:31:19 | 0:31:27 | |
objectives. Firstly we must keep
debt falling. The reason is the | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
economy has been growing for eight
years. Are we seriously saying we | 0:31:32 | 0:31:36 | |
will allow debt to rise. But within
that we have scope for additional | 0:31:36 | 0:31:43 | |
spending and tax cuts. In April
there is a further increase in the | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
personal allowance, and more scope
for spending which is why we have | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
increased spending on the NHS, a
billion more year on defence and | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
more for education. The National
Audit Office report has said funding | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
per person in terms of the NHS, once
adjusted for age, will fall by 0.3% | 0:32:00 | 0:32:11 | |
in 2019/20. Is that acceptable? We
are spending more. You have been | 0:32:11 | 0:32:19 | |
saved by Philip Hammond, we can
cross to the House of Commons where | 0:32:19 | 0:32:23 | |
the Chancellor will stand up and
make his spring statement. The UK | 0:32:23 | 0:32:29 | |
was the only major economy to make
hundreds of tax and spending changes | 0:32:29 | 0:32:35 | |
twice a year and major international
organisations and UK professional | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
bodies alike have been pressing for
change. In 2016 I took the decision | 0:32:38 | 0:32:44 | |
to move to a single fiscal event in
the autumn giving greater certainty | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
to families and businesses ahead of
the new financial year and allowing | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
more time for stakeholder and
Parliamentary engagement on | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
potential fiscal changes. Today's
statement will update the house on | 0:32:57 | 0:33:01 | |
the economic and fiscal position,
report progress on announcement made | 0:33:01 | 0:33:06 | |
in the budget last year and launch
further consultations ahead of | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
budget 2080. I won't be producing a
red book today, Mr Speaker, but of | 0:33:10 | 0:33:18 | |
course I cannot speak for the right
honourable gentleman... | 0:33:18 | 0:33:25 | |
honourable gentleman... Mr Speaker,
I am pleased to report today on a UK | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
economy that has grown in every year
since 2010. An economy which on the | 0:33:34 | 0:33:40 | |
Conservative leadership now has a
manufacturing sector is enjoying its | 0:33:40 | 0:33:47 | |
longest unbroken run of growth for
50 years. An economy which has added | 0:33:47 | 0:33:54 | |
3 million jobs and seen every single
region of the UK with higher | 0:33:54 | 0:34:00 | |
unemployment and lower unemployment
than in 2010, seen the wages of the | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
lowest paid up by almost 7% above
inflation since April 2015, and | 0:34:05 | 0:34:12 | |
income inequality lower than at any
time under the last Labour | 0:34:12 | 0:34:17 | |
government. Solid progress towards
building an economy that works for | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
everyone. Mr Speaker, I reject the
party opposite's doom and gloom | 0:34:20 | 0:34:27 | |
about the state of the nation. Every
Wednesday, we have to listen to the | 0:34:27 | 0:34:34 | |
Leader of the Opposition
relentlessly talking Britain down, | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
and every year since 2010 we have
had to listen to the right | 0:34:37 | 0:34:42 | |
honourable member predict a
recession, mum of which have | 0:34:42 | 0:34:47 | |
actually happened. So Mr Speaker, if
there are any Eeyores in the | 0:34:47 | 0:34:57 | |
chamber, they are over there.
Meanwhile I am at my positively most | 0:34:57 | 0:35:07 | |
Tigger-like as I contemplate a
country that faces a future with | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
unique strengths. Our language is
the global language of business, our | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
legal system is the jurisdiction of
choice for commerce. We host the | 0:35:14 | 0:35:20 | |
world's most global city. Our
companies are in the vanguard of the | 0:35:20 | 0:35:27 | |
technological revolution, while our
world-class universities are | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
delivering the breakthrough
discoveries and inventions that are | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
powering it. British culture and
talent reaches huge audiences across | 0:35:34 | 0:35:39 | |
the globe and our tech sector is
attracting skills and capital from | 0:35:39 | 0:35:43 | |
the four corners of the earth with a
new tech business being founded | 0:35:43 | 0:35:48 | |
somewhere in the UK every hour,
producing world-class products | 0:35:48 | 0:35:53 | |
including apps like transfer wise,
city mapper. Today the OBR delivers | 0:35:53 | 0:36:09 | |
its second report of the fiscal year
2017/18 and I thank Robert and his | 0:36:09 | 0:36:15 | |
team for their work. It forecasts
more jobs, rising real wages, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:20 | |
declining inflation, falling
deficit, and a shrinking debt. The | 0:36:20 | 0:36:25 | |
economy grew by 1.7% in 2017
compared to 1.5% forecast at the | 0:36:25 | 0:36:33 | |
budget and be OBR have revised up
their forecast for 2018 from 1.4% to | 0:36:33 | 0:36:41 | |
1.5%. Forecast growth is unchanged
at 1.3% in 2019 and 20 before | 0:36:41 | 0:36:48 | |
picking up to 1.4% in 21 and 1.5% in
22. That is the OBR's forecast, but | 0:36:48 | 0:36:57 | |
forecast are there to be beaten. As
a nation we did it in 2017 and we | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
should make it our business to do so
again. Our remarkable jobs story is | 0:37:01 | 0:37:07 | |
set to continue with the OBR
forecasting more jobs in every year | 0:37:07 | 0:37:12 | |
of this Parliament and over 500,000
more people enjoying the security of | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
a regular pay packet by 2022. The
OBR expects inflation, currently | 0:37:17 | 0:37:26 | |
above target at 3%, to fall back to
target over the next 12 months, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:30 | |
meaning real wage growth is expected
to be positive from the first | 0:37:30 | 0:37:35 | |
quarter of 2018/19 and to increase
steadily thereafter. I reported in | 0:37:35 | 0:37:44 | |
the autumn that borrowing was due to
fall in every year of the forecast | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
and debt to fall as a share of the
GD eight from 2018/ 19 -- as a share | 0:37:47 | 0:37:59 | |
of the GDP. Borrowing is now
forecast to be £45.2 billion this | 0:37:59 | 0:38:05 | |
year, 4.7 billion lower than
forecast in November. 108 billion | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
lower than in 2010, which
coincidentally is almost exactly the | 0:38:10 | 0:38:16 | |
total cost of the additional
spending pledges made by the party | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
opposite since the general election
in June last year. It has taken them | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
just nine months to work up a plan
to squander the fruits of eight | 0:38:25 | 0:38:32 | |
years' hard work of the British
people. As a percentage of GDP, | 0:38:32 | 0:38:38 | |
borrowing is forecast to be 2.2% in
17/18, falling to 1.8% in 18/ 1.6% | 0:38:38 | 0:38:50 | |
in 19/20, then 1.3%, 1.1%, finally
0.9% in 2022/23, which means we will | 0:38:50 | 0:39:02 | |
run a surplus borrowing only for
capital investment. We are forecast | 0:39:02 | 0:39:08 | |
to meet our secretary adjusted
borrowing target in 2021 with £15.4 | 0:39:08 | 0:39:14 | |
billion of head room to spare,
broadly as forecast at the budget. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:18 | |
The more favourable outlook for
borrowing means the debt forecast is | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
nearly 1% lower than in November,
peaking at 85.6% of GDP in 17/18 and | 0:39:23 | 0:39:32 | |
then falling to 85.5% in 18/19, then
finally to 77.9% in 22/ 23. The | 0:39:32 | 0:39:46 | |
first sustained fall in debt in 17
years. A turning point in this | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
nation's recovery from the financial
crisis of a decade ago. Light at the | 0:39:51 | 0:39:58 | |
end of the tunnel. Another step on
the road to rebuilding the public | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
finances, decimated by the party
opposite. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:10 | |
opposite. Mr Speaker, one that they
would again placed at risk because | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
under the policies of the party
opposite, our debt would not fall | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
over the next five years, it would
rise by over £350 billion to more | 0:40:17 | 0:40:25 | |
than 100% of our GDP, undermining
our recovery, threatening investment | 0:40:25 | 0:40:31 | |
in British jobs, and wasting
billions of pounds more on debt | 0:40:31 | 0:40:38 | |
interest. There is indeed light at
the end of the tunnel, but we have | 0:40:38 | 0:40:44 | |
got to make absolutely sure that it
isn't the Shadow Chancellor's train | 0:40:44 | 0:40:51 | |
hurtling out of control in the other
direction towards Labour's next | 0:40:51 | 0:40:55 | |
economic train wreck. This to
Speaker, in autumn 2016, I changed | 0:40:55 | 0:41:02 | |
the fiscal rules to give us more
flexibility to adopt a balanced | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
approach to repairing the public
finances, reducing debt not for some | 0:41:06 | 0:41:12 | |
ideological reasons but to secure
our economy... But to secure our | 0:41:12 | 0:41:19 | |
economy against future shocks.
Because, Mr Speaker, we on this side | 0:41:19 | 0:41:24 | |
are not so naive to think we have
abolished the economic cycle. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:27 | |
Because we want to see taxpayers'
money funding our schools and | 0:41:27 | 0:41:33 | |
hospitals, not wasted on debt
interest and because we want to give | 0:41:33 | 0:41:40 | |
the next generation of fair chance.
But Mr Speaker, I do not agree with | 0:41:40 | 0:41:48 | |
those who argue that every available
penny must be used to reduce the | 0:41:48 | 0:41:53 | |
deficit, and nor do I agree with the
fiscal fantasists opposite who argue | 0:41:53 | 0:41:58 | |
every available penny should be
spent immediately. We will continue | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
to deliver a balanced approach,
balancing debt reduction against the | 0:42:02 | 0:42:07 | |
need for investment in Britain's
future, support a hard-working | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
families through lower taxes, and
our commitment to our public | 0:42:11 | 0:42:16 | |
services. Judge me by my record, Mr
Speaker. Judge me... Judge me by my | 0:42:16 | 0:42:29 | |
record. We will see, Mr Speaker, if
they have done their homework, they | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 | |
might be surprised. Since Autumn
Statement 2016 I have committed... | 0:42:33 | 0:42:43 | |
Support for our public services.
With almost £9 billion extra for our | 0:42:43 | 0:42:48 | |
NHS and our social care system, £4
billion going into the NHS in | 0:42:48 | 0:42:56 | |
2018/19 alone. As I promised that
the autumn budget, more to come if, | 0:42:56 | 0:43:02 | |
as I hope, management and unions
reach an agreement on a pay | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
modernisation deal for our nation's
nurses, who have worked tirelessly | 0:43:06 | 0:43:12 | |
since the autumn in very challenging
circumstances to provide the NHS | 0:43:12 | 0:43:17 | |
care that we all value so highly.
£2.2 billion more on education and | 0:43:17 | 0:43:25 | |
skills, and £31 billion going to
fund infrastructure, RND and housing | 0:43:25 | 0:43:30 | |
through the National productivity
investment fund, taking public | 0:43:30 | 0:43:35 | |
investment in our schools, hospitals
and infrastructure in this | 0:43:35 | 0:43:38 | |
Parliament to its highest sustained
level in 40 years. And at the same | 0:43:38 | 0:43:45 | |
time, Mr Speaker, we have cut taxes
for 31 million working people by | 0:43:45 | 0:43:50 | |
raising the personal allowance again
in line with our manifesto | 0:43:50 | 0:43:54 | |
commitment, taking more than 4
million people out of tax altogether | 0:43:54 | 0:44:00 | |
since 2010. Freezing fuel duty for
an eighth successive year, taking | 0:44:00 | 0:44:04 | |
the saving for a typical car driver
to £850 compared to Labour's plans, | 0:44:04 | 0:44:10 | |
and raising the national living wage
to £7 83 from next month, giving the | 0:44:10 | 0:44:16 | |
lowest paid in our society a
well-deserved pay rise of over £2000 | 0:44:16 | 0:44:23 | |
for a full-time worker since 2015.
Since becoming Chancellor, I have | 0:44:23 | 0:44:31 | |
provided an extra £11 billion of
funding for 2018/ 19th to help with | 0:44:31 | 0:44:36 | |
short-term public spending pressures
and to invest in Britain's future. | 0:44:36 | 0:44:40 | |
In the longer term, I can confirm
that at this year's budget, I will | 0:44:40 | 0:44:46 | |
set an overall pass for public
spending for 2020 and beyond with a | 0:44:46 | 0:44:50 | |
detailed spending review to take
place in 2019 to allocate funding | 0:44:50 | 0:44:57 | |
between departments. That is how
responsible people budget. First you | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
work out what you can afford, then
you decide what your priorities are, | 0:45:01 | 0:45:06 | |
then you allocate between them. And
if, in the autumn, the public | 0:45:06 | 0:45:12 | |
finances continue to reflect the
improvements that today's report is | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
hinting at, then with accordance
with our Ballon d'Or -- balanced | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
approach and using flexibility, I
would have capacity to enable | 0:45:19 | 0:45:25 | |
further increases in public spending
and investment in the years ahead. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:30 | |
While continuing to drive value for
money to ensure not a single penny | 0:45:30 | 0:45:35 | |
of precious taxpayers' money is
wasted. A balanced approach, getting | 0:45:35 | 0:45:42 | |
our debt down, supporting public
services, investing in our nation's | 0:45:42 | 0:45:48 | |
future, keeping taxes low, building
a Britain fit for the future and an | 0:45:48 | 0:45:52 | |
economy that works for everyone. | 0:45:52 | 0:45:59 | |
There is much still to do. Since
autumn 2016 we have set out our plan | 0:46:00 | 0:46:15 | |
to back the enterprise and ambition
of British business and the hard | 0:46:15 | 0:46:18 | |
work of the British people. A plan
to unleash our creators and | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
innovators, inventors and
discoverers. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:31 | |
We choose to champion those who
create the jobs and wealth on which | 0:46:38 | 0:46:43 | |
our prosperity and public services
both depend, not to demonise them. | 0:46:43 | 0:46:50 | |
The Shadow Chancellor is open about
his ideological desire to undermine | 0:46:50 | 0:46:55 | |
the market economy which has driven
and increase in our living standards | 0:46:55 | 0:47:00 | |
over 50 years. We on this side
reject his approach out right. | 0:47:00 | 0:47:09 | |
The market economy embraces talent
and creates opportunity, provides | 0:47:09 | 0:47:14 | |
jobs for millions, and tax revenues
that underpin our public services. | 0:47:14 | 0:47:19 | |
We will go on supporting British
businesses. We are reducing business | 0:47:19 | 0:47:23 | |
rates by over £10 billion, we
committed the autumn budget to move | 0:47:23 | 0:47:32 | |
to trial any evaluations from 2022.
I am pleased to announce we will | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
bring forward the next revaluation
and moved to triannual reviews from | 0:47:36 | 0:47:42 | |
that date. We will launch a call for
evidence to understand how best we | 0:47:42 | 0:47:49 | |
can help the least productive
businesses to learn from and catch | 0:47:49 | 0:47:52 | |
up with the most productive. And on
how we can eliminate the continuing | 0:47:52 | 0:47:57 | |
scourge of late payments. Because we
are the party of small business and | 0:47:57 | 0:48:05 | |
the champions of the entrepreneur.
Since the budget, we have made | 0:48:05 | 0:48:12 | |
substantial progress in negotiations
with the European Union to deliver a | 0:48:12 | 0:48:18 | |
Brexit that supports British jobs,
businesses and prosperity. And I | 0:48:18 | 0:48:23 | |
look forward, I don't know what the
honourable gentleman does, to | 0:48:23 | 0:48:31 | |
another important step forward at
the European Council next week. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:36 | |
But we will continue to prepare for
all eventualities and today the | 0:48:36 | 0:48:42 | |
Chief Secretary is publishing the
departmental allocations of over | 0:48:42 | 0:48:47 | |
£1.5 billion of Brexit preparation
funding the 20 18th which I | 0:48:47 | 0:48:51 | |
announced at the autumn budget.
Our modern industrial stretchy sets | 0:48:51 | 0:48:56 | |
out our plan to keep Britain at the
forefront of new technologies with | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
the biggest increase in public are
indeed spending the decades, much of | 0:49:00 | 0:49:06 | |
this new technology depends on
high-speed broadband and today I can | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
make the first allocations of the
£190 million local full fibre | 0:49:10 | 0:49:15 | |
challenge fund announced in autumn,
and confirm £25 million for the | 0:49:15 | 0:49:20 | |
first five G test-beds.
As our economy changes, we must | 0:49:20 | 0:49:26 | |
ensure people have the skills they
need to seize the opportunities | 0:49:26 | 0:49:31 | |
ahead so we have committed over £500
billion a year, to the most | 0:49:31 | 0:49:38 | |
ambitious post -- reforms in years
and £50 million will be available | 0:49:38 | 0:49:42 | |
from next month to help employees
prepare for the roll-out. Last week, | 0:49:42 | 0:49:49 | |
the Education Secretary and I
chaired the first meeting of the | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
National retraining partnership
between the Government, the TUC and | 0:49:53 | 0:49:56 | |
CBI. I can reassure you there was no
beer, no sandwiches, but there was a | 0:49:56 | 0:50:06 | |
clear and shared commitment to
training to prepare the British | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
people for a better future ahead.
Next month our £29 million | 0:50:09 | 0:50:17 | |
construction skills fund will open
for bids to find up to 20 | 0:50:17 | 0:50:21 | |
construction skills villages around
the country. | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
We are committed as a Government to
delivering 3 million apprenticeship | 0:50:24 | 0:50:30 | |
starts by 2020 with the support of
business through the apprenticeship | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
levy but we recognise the challenges
the new system presents to some | 0:50:33 | 0:50:38 | |
small businesses looking to employ
an apprentice. So I can announce the | 0:50:38 | 0:50:43 | |
Education Secretary will release up
to £80 billion of funding to support | 0:50:43 | 0:50:48 | |
those small businesses in engaging
an apprentice. | 0:50:48 | 0:50:51 | |
We publish a consultation on
improving the way the tax system | 0:50:51 | 0:50:57 | |
supports self-funded training by
employees and self-employed. We | 0:50:57 | 0:51:01 | |
understand more about the economic
payback from investing in our | 0:51:01 | 0:51:05 | |
infrastructure than we do about
investing in our people, so I have | 0:51:05 | 0:51:09 | |
asked for the ONS to develop a more
sophisticated measure of human | 0:51:09 | 0:51:15 | |
capital so future investment can be
better targeted. | 0:51:15 | 0:51:20 | |
We are undertaking the largest
road-building programme since the | 0:51:20 | 0:51:23 | |
1970s. As Transport Secretary I gave
the green light to fund the new | 0:51:23 | 0:51:29 | |
bridge across the River Mersey in
2011 and I was delighted to see it | 0:51:29 | 0:51:34 | |
opened last year.
The largest infrastructure project | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
in Europe, Crossrail, is due to open
in nine months. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:43 | |
We are making progress on our plans
to deliver the Cambridge Milton | 0:51:43 | 0:51:47 | |
Keynes Oxford corridor, devolving
powers to elected mayors across the | 0:51:47 | 0:51:54 | |
northern powerhouse, in negotiations
for city deals with sterling, | 0:51:54 | 0:52:01 | |
borderlands, North Wales, mid Wales
and Belfast. Today, we invite | 0:52:01 | 0:52:05 | |
proposals from cities across England
for the £840 million fund I | 0:52:05 | 0:52:11 | |
announced to deliver on their local
transport priorities as part of our | 0:52:11 | 0:52:15 | |
plans to spread growth and
opportunity to all parts of this | 0:52:15 | 0:52:21 | |
United Kingdom.
At the heart of our plan for | 0:52:21 | 0:52:27 | |
building an economy that works for
everyone is our commitment to tackle | 0:52:27 | 0:52:30 | |
the challenges in our housing
market, with an investment programme | 0:52:30 | 0:52:36 | |
of £44 billion to raise housing
supply up to 300,000 a year by the | 0:52:36 | 0:52:40 | |
mid 20 20s.
We are working currently, the | 0:52:40 | 0:52:47 | |
Housing Minister is working with 44
authorities who have bid into the | 0:52:47 | 0:52:54 | |
£4.1 billion housing infrastructure
fund to unlock homes in areas of | 0:52:54 | 0:52:56 | |
high demand. We are considering
cutting deals with authorities who | 0:52:56 | 0:53:01 | |
have agreed to deliver above their
local need. I can announce we have | 0:53:01 | 0:53:08 | |
agreed a deal with the West Midlands
who have committed to deliver | 0:53:08 | 0:53:13 | |
250,000 homes by 2030 facilitated by
£100 million grant. My right | 0:53:13 | 0:53:22 | |
honourable friend the Housing
Minister will make further | 0:53:22 | 0:53:26 | |
announcements on the housing
infrastructure fund. | 0:53:26 | 0:53:29 | |
We will more than double the size of
the housing growth partnership with | 0:53:29 | 0:53:34 | |
Lloyds Banking Group up to £200
million providing additional finance | 0:53:34 | 0:53:39 | |
the small builders. London will
receive an additional £1.7 billion | 0:53:39 | 0:53:46 | |
to deliver a further 26,000
affordable homes including homes for | 0:53:46 | 0:53:52 | |
social rent, taking total affordable
housing delivery in London to over | 0:53:52 | 0:53:57 | |
116,000 by the end of 22 -- 2122.
The member for West Dorset has | 0:53:57 | 0:54:06 | |
outlined his initial findings on the
gap between planning permission is | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
granted and housing completions in a
letter which I have placed in the | 0:54:10 | 0:54:15 | |
library of the House and I look
forward to his full report. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:19 | |
I am delighted to inform the House
and estimated 60,000 first-time | 0:54:19 | 0:54:27 | |
buyers have already benefited from
the stamp duty relief that I | 0:54:27 | 0:54:30 | |
announced at the autumn budget.
I remind the House the party | 0:54:30 | 0:54:37 | |
opposite voted against it.
In the autumn, we published a paper | 0:54:37 | 0:54:46 | |
on taxing large digital businesses
in the global economy and today we | 0:54:46 | 0:54:50 | |
follow up with a publication that
explores potential solutions. I look | 0:54:50 | 0:54:55 | |
forward to discussing this with G20
finance ministers at the weekend. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:59 | |
We also published a call for
evidence on how online platforms can | 0:54:59 | 0:55:05 | |
help their users to pay the right
amount of tax and we will consult on | 0:55:05 | 0:55:10 | |
a new VAT collection mechanism for
online sales to ensure the VAT that | 0:55:10 | 0:55:17 | |
consumers pay actually reaches the
Treasury. We will call for evidence | 0:55:17 | 0:55:20 | |
on how to encourage cashless and
digital payments while ensuring cash | 0:55:20 | 0:55:26 | |
remains available to those who need
it. | 0:55:26 | 0:55:29 | |
This Government is determined our
generation should leave the natural | 0:55:29 | 0:55:35 | |
environment in a better state than
we found it and improve the quality | 0:55:35 | 0:55:40 | |
of the air that we breathe. So we
will publish a call for evidence on | 0:55:40 | 0:55:45 | |
whether the use of non-agricultural
red diesel tax relief contributes to | 0:55:45 | 0:55:51 | |
poor air quality in urban areas.
Following our successful | 0:55:51 | 0:55:55 | |
intervention to incentivise clean
taxes, we will help the great | 0:55:55 | 0:56:00 | |
British white van driver go green
with a consultation on reduced rates | 0:56:00 | 0:56:05 | |
for the keenest fans and follow up
on the vital issue of plastic | 0:56:05 | 0:56:10 | |
littering and the threat to our
oceans with a call for evidence to | 0:56:10 | 0:56:15 | |
support us in delivering on our vow
to tackle this context issue. | 0:56:15 | 0:56:18 | |
It will look at the whole supply
chain the single use plastics, | 0:56:18 | 0:56:25 | |
alternative materials, reusable
options and recycling opportunities, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:29 | |
at how the tax system can help drive
the technological progress and | 0:56:29 | 0:56:34 | |
behavioural change we need, not as a
way of raising revenue but to change | 0:56:34 | 0:56:41 | |
behaviour and encourage innovation.
We will commit to investing to | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
develop new greener products and
processes, | 0:56:45 | 0:56:51 | |
processes, funded from the revenues
that are raised. As a down payment, | 0:56:52 | 0:56:57 | |
we will award £20 million now from
existing departmental budgets to | 0:56:57 | 0:57:03 | |
businesses and universities to
stimulate new thinking and rapid | 0:57:03 | 0:57:06 | |
solutions in this area during the
call for evidence. | 0:57:06 | 0:57:12 | |
We are delivering on our plan with a
balanced approach, restoring the | 0:57:12 | 0:57:18 | |
public finances, investing in our
economy and public services, raising | 0:57:18 | 0:57:23 | |
productivity through our modern
industrial strategy, building the | 0:57:23 | 0:57:26 | |
home is our people need, tackling
the environmental challenges that | 0:57:26 | 0:57:31 | |
threaten our future, and breaking
technological change, seizing the | 0:57:31 | 0:57:35 | |
opportunities ahead, as we build our
vision of a country that works for | 0:57:35 | 0:57:41 | |
everyone. An economy where
prosperity and opportunity are in | 0:57:41 | 0:57:45 | |
breach of all, wherever they live,
whatever their gender, colour, creed | 0:57:45 | 0:57:51 | |
or background, where talent and hard
work alone determines success. A | 0:57:51 | 0:57:57 | |
beacon of enterprise and innovation.
An outward looking, free trading | 0:57:57 | 0:58:04 | |
nation.
One that is confident our best days | 0:58:04 | 0:58:09 | |
like ahead of us.
A force for good in the world. | 0:58:09 | 0:58:16 | |
A country we can all be proud to
pass on to our children and I | 0:58:16 | 0:58:20 | |
commend this statement to the House.
John McDonnell. Let me first... | 0:58:20 | 0:58:31 | |
STUDIO: The Chancellor. We need to
break the strawberry news Donald | 0:58:31 | 0:58:38 | |
Trump has sacked his century of
state Rex Tillerson -- the | 0:58:38 | 0:58:43 | |
extraordinary news. Let us hear what
John McDonnell had to say. | 0:58:43 | 0:58:52 | |
Hasn't he listened to the doctors,
nurses, teachers, police officers, | 0:58:52 | 0:58:57 | |
carers and even his own councillors,
they are telling him they cannot | 0:58:57 | 0:59:03 | |
wait for the next budget, telling
him to act now. For eight years they | 0:59:03 | 0:59:09 | |
have been ignored by this Government
and today they have been ignored | 0:59:09 | 0:59:13 | |
again.
The Chancellor has proclaimed there | 0:59:13 | 0:59:16 | |
is light at the end of the tunnel.
This shows how cut off from the real | 0:59:16 | 0:59:21 | |
world he is.
Last year, growth in our economy was | 0:59:21 | 0:59:25 | |
among the lowest in the G7. The
slowest since 2012. The OBR | 0:59:25 | 0:59:31 | |
predicted we will scrape along the
bottom for future years. Wages are | 0:59:31 | 0:59:37 | |
lower now in real terms than they
were in 9010. | 0:59:37 | 0:59:41 | |
And they are still falling.
According to the Resolution | 0:59:41 | 0:59:47 | |
Foundation the changes to benefits
due to come in next month will leave | 0:59:47 | 0:59:53 | |
11 million families worse off. As
always, the harshest cuts fall on | 0:59:53 | 0:59:59 | |
disabled people.
The gap in productivity between this | 0:59:59 | 1:00:04 | |
country and the rest of the G7 is
almost the | 1:00:04 | 1:00:12 | |
Investment by this government in
real terms is nearly 18 billion | 1:00:18 | 1:00:23 | |
below its 2010 level. This is a
government that cut research and | 1:00:23 | 1:00:28 | |
development | 1:00:28 | 1:00:32 | |
development funding by 1 billion in
real terms. Business investment | 1:00:33 | 1:00:36 | |
stagnated in the last quarter of
2017 and despite all of the | 1:00:36 | 1:00:40 | |
promises, the government continues
to fail to address regional | 1:00:40 | 1:00:47 | |
imbalances in investment. London
will receive five times more | 1:00:47 | 1:00:51 | |
transport investment than the north.
This is a government that | 1:00:51 | 1:01:01 | |
single-handedly destroyed the solar
industry, 12,000 jobs lost as a | 1:01:01 | 1:01:06 | |
result of subsidy cuts. The
Chancellor talks about the fourth | 1:01:06 | 1:01:13 | |
industrial revolution but Britain
has the lowest... The Chancellor | 1:01:13 | 1:01:19 | |
talks about the fourth Industrial
Revolution but Britain has the | 1:01:19 | 1:01:24 | |
lowest rate of industrial robot use
in the OECD. The government has | 1:01:24 | 1:01:32 | |
bought 75 million into its
artificial intelligence programme, | 1:01:32 | 1:01:34 | |
less than a tenth of what the US is
spending. The Chancellor has made... | 1:01:34 | 1:01:46 | |
The Tory bully boys can shout all
they want. | 1:01:46 | 1:01:54 | |
There will be a full opportunity for
people to contribute but the right | 1:02:00 | 1:02:05 | |
honourable gentleman must be heard.
John McDonnell. They can shout all | 1:02:05 | 1:02:11 | |
they want and make their snide
remarks. People out there know the | 1:02:11 | 1:02:17 | |
crisis in our community. The
Chancellor has made great play this | 1:02:17 | 1:02:21 | |
week of reaching a turning point in
reducing the deficit and the debt. | 1:02:21 | 1:02:25 | |
It's a bit rich coming from a party
that has bought 700 billion on the | 1:02:25 | 1:02:30 | |
national debt over the last eight
years. And it is worth remembering | 1:02:30 | 1:02:39 | |
this is a party that promised us
that the deficit would be eliminated | 1:02:39 | 1:02:43 | |
completely by 2015 /2016 and
bizarrely his predecessor, now | 1:02:43 | 1:02:53 | |
ensconced in the Evening Standard or
is it Blackrock, the number of jobs | 1:02:53 | 1:03:02 | |
he now has, his predecessor has been
tweeting about achieving three years | 1:03:02 | 1:03:06 | |
late deficit target that he
abandoned himself. The reality is | 1:03:06 | 1:03:11 | |
his Chancellor and his predecessor
have not tackled the deficit. What | 1:03:11 | 1:03:16 | |
they have done is shifted it onto
the public services and his | 1:03:16 | 1:03:21 | |
colleagues are responsible for. He
has shifted it onto the shoulders of | 1:03:21 | 1:03:30 | |
NHS managers, doctors and nurses
throughout the country. NHS Trust | 1:03:30 | 1:03:34 | |
will end this financial year 1
billion in deficit. Doctors and | 1:03:34 | 1:03:39 | |
nurses are struggling, being asked
to do more and more while there is | 1:03:39 | 1:03:45 | |
100,000 NHS posts going unfilled.
Does the Chancellor really believe | 1:03:45 | 1:03:48 | |
the NHS can wait another eight
months for the life-saving money it | 1:03:48 | 1:03:54 | |
needs? How many people have to die
waiting in an ambulance before he | 1:03:54 | 1:03:59 | |
acts? He has mentioned the pay offer
to the NHS -- we are expecting | 1:03:59 | 1:04:04 | |
shortly, that was forced upon him by
the Labour Party and trade unionists | 1:04:04 | 1:04:10 | |
campaigning against the pay cut.
Taking away a day's holiday from | 1:04:10 | 1:04:17 | |
those dedicated staff is
mean-spirited, and I ask him now, | 1:04:17 | 1:04:23 | |
will he dropped this miserly act?
The Chancellor has also shifted the | 1:04:23 | 1:04:30 | |
deficit the Secretary of State for
Education and headteachers, with the | 1:04:30 | 1:04:36 | |
first per capita cut in schools
funding since 1990s. Today, the | 1:04:36 | 1:04:43 | |
government is even trying to deprive
1 million children of a decent | 1:04:43 | 1:04:48 | |
school dinner. So I am asking the
Chancellor, and I am asking every | 1:04:48 | 1:05:01 | |
Conservative MP, if... Order! The
House must calm down, there will be | 1:05:01 | 1:05:10 | |
plenty of opportunity for
questioning from members in all | 1:05:10 | 1:05:12 | |
parts of the House but the right
honourable gentleman must be heard. | 1:05:12 | 1:05:17 | |
John McDonnell. So I am asking and
appealing to Tory MPs today. If they | 1:05:17 | 1:05:26 | |
are serious about ending austerity,
to vote with us this afternoon to | 1:05:26 | 1:05:31 | |
give those children the free school
meal they are entitled to. The | 1:05:31 | 1:05:37 | |
Chancellor has shifted the deficit
onto Home and Justice Secretary. | 1:05:37 | 1:05:43 | |
Crime is rising, yet he has cut the
number of police officers by 21,500, | 1:05:43 | 1:05:49 | |
the number of firefighters by 8500,
and our prisons and probation | 1:05:49 | 1:05:55 | |
service are in dangerous crisis. In
shifting the deficit onto the | 1:05:55 | 1:05:59 | |
shoulders of the Secretary of State
for Communities and Local | 1:05:59 | 1:06:03 | |
Government, in reality he is shifted
the burden onto local councillors. | 1:06:03 | 1:06:07 | |
Yes, Labour, Lib Dem and
Conservative councillors alike. I | 1:06:07 | 1:06:12 | |
raised again the stark reality of
what this means that the most | 1:06:12 | 1:06:16 | |
vulnerable children in our society.
There's been a 40% cut in early | 1:06:16 | 1:06:21 | |
intervention to support families,
the result is the highest number of | 1:06:21 | 1:06:24 | |
children taken into care since the
1980s. Children's charities are | 1:06:24 | 1:06:31 | |
saying this - this crisis could turn
into a catastrophe without further | 1:06:31 | 1:06:38 | |
funding. Also last year 400 women
seeking refuge were turned away | 1:06:38 | 1:06:43 | |
because there were no places
available for them in refuges. There | 1:06:43 | 1:06:47 | |
are now nearly 5000 of our fellow
citizens sleeping rough on our | 1:06:47 | 1:06:55 | |
streets, more than double what there
was in 2010. Tragically, one of our | 1:06:55 | 1:07:03 | |
homeless citizens died only feet
away from the entrance to | 1:07:03 | 1:07:09 | |
Parliament. He mentioned additional
housing funding, the announcement | 1:07:09 | 1:07:18 | |
for London today is not a new
announcement, it's already been | 1:07:18 | 1:07:21 | |
announced. Any new funding is
welcome, but it represents a cut in | 1:07:21 | 1:07:26 | |
London's budget compared to money
Labour allocated Intel | 1:07:26 | 1:07:35 | |
Labour allocated Intel -- in 2010.
Conservative councils are going | 1:07:36 | 1:07:38 | |
bust, many will be forced to put up
council tax. Councils are running | 1:07:38 | 1:07:43 | |
out of reserve as the National Audit
Office explained. So I asked the | 1:07:43 | 1:07:48 | |
Chancellor, will will he listen to
Conservative council leaders? Like | 1:07:48 | 1:07:55 | |
his own in Surrey who said, "We are
facing the most difficult financial | 1:07:55 | 1:07:59 | |
crisis in our history. The
government cannot stand idly by | 1:07:59 | 1:08:05 | |
while Rome burns" | 1:08:05 | 1:08:07 | |
government cannot stand idly by
while Rome burns". I ask him, how | 1:08:07 | 1:08:10 | |
many more children have to come into
care? How many more councils have to | 1:08:10 | 1:08:14 | |
go bust and run out of reserves
before he wakes up to the crisis and | 1:08:14 | 1:08:19 | |
acts? The statement today could have
been a genuine turning point but it | 1:08:19 | 1:08:24 | |
is depressingly another missed
opportunity. People know now that | 1:08:24 | 1:08:31 | |
austerity was a political choice,
not an economic necessity. The | 1:08:31 | 1:08:39 | |
Conservatives chose to cut taxes for
the super rich, the corporations and | 1:08:41 | 1:08:47 | |
the bankers, and it was paid for by
the rest of us in society. They even | 1:08:47 | 1:08:53 | |
cut the levy on bankers. We were
never all in this together as they | 1:08:53 | 1:09:00 | |
claimed, never. They cut investment
at the very time we should have been | 1:09:00 | 1:09:04 | |
developing the skills and
infrastructure needed to raise | 1:09:04 | 1:09:07 | |
productivity, and grasp the
technological revolution with both | 1:09:07 | 1:09:12 | |
hands. And when they had a
responsibility to meet the challenge | 1:09:12 | 1:09:17 | |
of Brexit, we have a Chancellor who
this weekend admitted he hasn't even | 1:09:17 | 1:09:22 | |
modelled the government's options.
Today we have the indefensible | 1:09:22 | 1:09:28 | |
spectacle of a Chancellor
congratulating himself on marginally | 1:09:28 | 1:09:33 | |
improved economic forecasts, while
he refuses to lift a finger as | 1:09:33 | 1:09:38 | |
councils go bust, the NHS and social
care in crisis, school budgets cut, | 1:09:38 | 1:09:44 | |
homelessness doubles and wages
falling. This isn't a government | 1:09:44 | 1:09:47 | |
preparing our country for the
future, it is a government setting | 1:09:47 | 1:09:54 | |
us up to fail. Chancellor of the
Exchequer. | 1:09:54 | 1:10:01 | |
Exchequer. The Shadow Chancellor
John McDonnell ending his ten-minute | 1:10:01 | 1:10:05 | |
response, quite an emotional speech
in his response to Philip Hammond | 1:10:05 | 1:10:08 | |
but before we do the analysis on
that spring statement and Labour's | 1:10:08 | 1:10:14 | |
reply, if you remember in the middle
of it I brought you the fairly | 1:10:14 | 1:10:18 | |
extraordinary news is that President
Trump had sacked his Secretary of | 1:10:18 | 1:10:23 | |
State, Rex Tillerson. James Landale,
why is this critically important to | 1:10:23 | 1:10:27 | |
Britain? This matters because Rex
Tillerson hard in the last 24 hours | 1:10:27 | 1:10:32 | |
offered his support for Britain's
position against Russia. There have | 1:10:32 | 1:10:36 | |
been concerns that the British were
not getting similar noises from the | 1:10:36 | 1:10:41 | |
White House itself but Rex Tillerson
had spoken to Boris Johnson and had | 1:10:41 | 1:10:46 | |
accepted Boris Johnson's analysis
that there was Russian involvement | 1:10:46 | 1:10:49 | |
in the Salisbury attack and that Rex
Tillerson had responded accordingly | 1:10:49 | 1:10:55 | |
with the statement he put out.
However he is now out of office, | 1:10:55 | 1:10:58 | |
he's been replaced by the former
head of the CIA. What is crucial is | 1:10:58 | 1:11:06 | |
the timing of the sacking. If Rex
Tillerson was sacked in the last 24 | 1:11:06 | 1:11:16 | |
hours, there is the question was he
sacked in part because of the | 1:11:16 | 1:11:20 | |
strength of his criticism of Russia,
criticism the White House was not | 1:11:20 | 1:11:24 | |
prepared to make itself. However, if
Rex Tillerson was informed of his | 1:11:24 | 1:11:29 | |
dismissal last Friday, then actually
the suggestion is that he has been | 1:11:29 | 1:11:36 | |
dismissed for longer term
differences of opinion with | 1:11:36 | 1:11:40 | |
President Trump, namely particularly
I think the attitude the US has been | 1:11:40 | 1:11:45 | |
taking to North Korea but also the
long-standing personal differences, | 1:11:45 | 1:11:49 | |
the allegations Rex Tillerson has
always denied that he once called Mr | 1:11:49 | 1:11:54 | |
Trump a moron. I'm going to come
back to you in a moment because we | 1:11:54 | 1:11:57 | |
might as well tell viewers about the
strength of the statement from Rex | 1:11:57 | 1:12:02 | |
Tillerson, the now former Secretary
of State, in terms of condemning | 1:12:02 | 1:12:06 | |
Russia last night. He said: | 1:12:06 | 1:12:11 | |
Taking your point about the timing
of his sacking, in terms of it might | 1:12:25 | 1:12:29 | |
have been around longer term
disagreements, that is still going | 1:12:29 | 1:12:32 | |
to be very important in terms of
what Britain can expect from its | 1:12:32 | 1:12:37 | |
allies if it takes retaliatory
action against Russia. It is hugely | 1:12:37 | 1:12:42 | |
important that whatever action the
British Government takes, some of it | 1:12:42 | 1:12:46 | |
expected to be announced tomorrow,
that it has some kind of | 1:12:46 | 1:12:49 | |
international support. At the moment
Boris Johnson, the Prime Minister | 1:12:49 | 1:12:55 | |
and others are ringing around to get
as much support as they can but most | 1:12:55 | 1:12:58 | |
of that at the moment is supportive
noises, condemnation of the attack, | 1:12:58 | 1:13:03 | |
but one or two countries are being
cautious before blaming Russia | 1:13:03 | 1:13:07 | |
specifically. They are keeping their
powder dry on that. The United | 1:13:07 | 1:13:13 | |
States is supposed to be one of
Britain's closest allies. If there | 1:13:13 | 1:13:18 | |
is turbulence and uncertainty within
the White House or the State | 1:13:18 | 1:13:23 | |
Department, that is going to make it
harder for the British Government to | 1:13:23 | 1:13:27 | |
get that sort of international
solidarity. Because there is a | 1:13:27 | 1:13:31 | |
difference and certainly was a
difference in tone in the way | 1:13:31 | 1:13:34 | |
President Trump and the White House
responded, of course they condemned | 1:13:34 | 1:13:38 | |
the attack but it will raise further
questions about Donald Trump and his | 1:13:38 | 1:13:45 | |
administration's relationship with
Russia. Exactly, and that is the | 1:13:45 | 1:13:48 | |
question, why is the White House at
the moment being so cautious? They | 1:13:48 | 1:13:52 | |
will have the same intelligence
assessments the British Government | 1:13:52 | 1:13:58 | |
has over the Russian involvement in
the Salisbury events. They will have | 1:13:58 | 1:14:02 | |
that information, they will be able
to make their judgment, but as of | 1:14:02 | 1:14:06 | |
now the White House is still
refusing to formally criticise | 1:14:06 | 1:14:09 | |
Russia with the same strength the
British Government is. Looking | 1:14:09 | 1:14:14 | |
ahead, what is going to happen? We
have the deadline of midnight | 1:14:14 | 1:14:21 | |
tonight and what we know will happen
in terms of choreography and the | 1:14:21 | 1:14:25 | |
British response? Tomorrow there
will be another meeting of the | 1:14:25 | 1:14:28 | |
Security Council and if there is no
response from Russia, the Prime | 1:14:28 | 1:14:32 | |
Minister will update the House
tomorrow afternoon with a statement | 1:14:32 | 1:14:35 | |
setting out what she believes should
happen now. I understand the | 1:14:35 | 1:14:40 | |
reaction from the British Government
tomorrow will be more domestic | 1:14:40 | 1:14:45 | |
focused, in other words the
unilateral actions the British | 1:14:45 | 1:14:47 | |
Government can make by itself.
Potentially the expulsion of | 1:14:47 | 1:14:52 | |
diplomats, the crackdown on wealthy
Russians with property and money in | 1:14:52 | 1:14:57 | |
the UK, travel bans, financial
sanctions, things like that, maybe | 1:14:57 | 1:15:00 | |
even forcing them to take their
children out of British public | 1:15:00 | 1:15:06 | |
schools, and targeting of the
Russian media. Those kind of things. | 1:15:06 | 1:15:11 | |
All of the international stuff, any
action on sanctions will be much | 1:15:11 | 1:15:16 | |
longer term because those things
take a long time to get in place. | 1:15:16 | 1:15:20 | |
Also it will take a lot of
diplomacy. This diplomacy over the | 1:15:20 | 1:15:25 | |
next weeks and months will be the
big test of the government's slogan | 1:15:25 | 1:15:29 | |
for its foreign policy called Global
Britain. | 1:15:29 | 1:15:36 | |
Rex Tillerson a former secretary of
the outcome has been sacked will | 1:15:39 | 1:15:48 | |
stop let us speak to Johnny Mercer
outside the Houses of Parliament. | 1:15:48 | 1:15:59 | |
What is your reaction to the news
Rex Tillerson has gone? | 1:15:59 | 1:16:03 | |
Given his strong support of Britain
in his statement, it is concerning, | 1:16:03 | 1:16:07 | |
we need to make -- we need to work
out if he made that after he was | 1:16:07 | 1:16:15 | |
sacked.
He has long protracted this | 1:16:15 | 1:16:20 | |
narrative on national security,
talked about a special relationship | 1:16:20 | 1:16:21 | |
with written. His reaction to what
has happened and the Prime Minister, | 1:16:21 | 1:16:30 | |
is still being waited for. It will
be interesting to see what he does. | 1:16:30 | 1:16:36 | |
It is a very clear moment for him to
decide which side he is on. | 1:16:36 | 1:16:40 | |
And what about the test for Theresa
May and her leadership? | 1:16:40 | 1:16:46 | |
I have said things about her
leadership in the past, yesterday, | 1:16:46 | 1:16:50 | |
she was in her prime. The country
needs that resilience of a strong | 1:16:50 | 1:16:57 | |
leadership. The contrast between her
and Jeremy Corbyn was extraordinary. | 1:16:57 | 1:17:01 | |
We need to work out what we are
going to do. Actions speak louder | 1:17:01 | 1:17:06 | |
than words. The whole political
spectrum need to come together and | 1:17:06 | 1:17:12 | |
make it clear to Russia this is not
acceptable. | 1:17:12 | 1:17:16 | |
How do you do that? In our earlier
discussion, beyond asking Nato for | 1:17:16 | 1:17:21 | |
support which it has said, beyond
the rhetoric, what are you expecting | 1:17:21 | 1:17:26 | |
Nato to do, is this an attack on one
or all? | 1:17:26 | 1:17:35 | |
Those discussions will have to be
had at national security level. | 1:17:35 | 1:17:38 | |
There are various levers they can
pull around sanctions, there are | 1:17:38 | 1:17:44 | |
many options. I note the Prime
Minister will come forward with a | 1:17:44 | 1:17:49 | |
strong one and we need to support
her. People like Putin, Assad, the | 1:17:49 | 1:17:56 | |
only respect one thing when you
stand up for what you believe in and | 1:17:56 | 1:18:00 | |
I look forward to Theresa May doing
that. | 1:18:00 | 1:18:03 | |
Thank you very much. We are going to
talk about and analyse that Spring | 1:18:03 | 1:18:10 | |
Statement. This announcement from
the United States has overshadowed | 1:18:10 | 1:18:17 | |
the Spring Statement and response
from Labour. | 1:18:17 | 1:18:18 | |
Listening to that, since the
announcement regarding Rex | 1:18:18 | 1:18:25 | |
Tillerson, how much more difficult
will it be for Theresa May to match | 1:18:25 | 1:18:29 | |
action to her rhetoric?
More difficult even more. Rex | 1:18:29 | 1:18:35 | |
Tillerson was seen as a sensible
bridge for the Trump administration. | 1:18:35 | 1:18:42 | |
Number ten pointing to constructive
concessions he had with the Foreign | 1:18:42 | 1:18:45 | |
Secretary, his views on what had
happened, his identification of | 1:18:45 | 1:18:51 | |
Russia being the likely marauders in
this affair was a positive for the | 1:18:51 | 1:18:59 | |
Government. Whatever the Government
can do, whether it is expelling | 1:18:59 | 1:19:05 | |
diplomats, the natural movements in
and out of London, they know they | 1:19:05 | 1:19:11 | |
can't do anything dramatic that has
huge minute without international | 1:19:11 | 1:19:17 | |
cooperation and if there is in a
friend at the top of the American | 1:19:17 | 1:19:20 | |
Government willing to act in
concert, that makes that job much | 1:19:20 | 1:19:27 | |
more difficult, no question. Theresa
May's strengthened language has set | 1:19:27 | 1:19:33 | |
the bar high. She has set
expectation which will be difficult | 1:19:33 | 1:19:39 | |
to meet in the House.
This could be to do with longer term | 1:19:39 | 1:19:47 | |
disagreements between Rex Tillerson
and President Trump particularly | 1:19:47 | 1:19:50 | |
since we are hearing coming out of
Washington Donald Trump wanted to | 1:19:50 | 1:19:54 | |
change his team ahead of that
high-stakes meeting between himself | 1:19:54 | 1:19:57 | |
and Kim Jong-un. Indeed. It is not
surprising in the big picture that | 1:19:57 | 1:20:06 | |
Tillerson is out.
There have been some tensions. There | 1:20:06 | 1:20:09 | |
were doubts about him when he was
appointed, did he have links to | 1:20:09 | 1:20:15 | |
Russia himself that gay people cause
for concern? -- that gave people. | 1:20:15 | 1:20:24 | |
The timing whether deliberate or not
if we are to believe early | 1:20:24 | 1:20:27 | |
suggestions, may have made things
difficult for the British Government | 1:20:27 | 1:20:34 | |
and has complicated what was already
a very tricky picture for the Prime | 1:20:34 | 1:20:37 | |
Minister.
We know there is a deadline of | 1:20:37 | 1:20:41 | |
midnight tonight for a Russian
response. A further Russian | 1:20:41 | 1:20:48 | |
response. Let us return to our
discussion with our guests about the | 1:20:48 | 1:20:53 | |
Spring Statement. Kemal Ahmed,
welcome. A slightly different Daily | 1:20:53 | 1:21:00 | |
Politics. On the Spring Statement,
thinking back to Philip Hammond, | 1:21:00 | 1:21:04 | |
that it would be a low-key affair,
no big measures announced. It was | 1:21:04 | 1:21:10 | |
longer in length but did it have any
more substance? | 1:21:10 | 1:21:15 | |
I thought it was very political,
attacking the Labour Party, saying | 1:21:15 | 1:21:19 | |
why they were the party that were
good for Britain. What was | 1:21:19 | 1:21:25 | |
interesting was the Office for
Budget Responsibility the official | 1:21:25 | 1:21:29 | |
economic watchdog, it's upgrade for
this year was very modest. It | 1:21:29 | 1:21:35 | |
downgraded its forecast for 2021.
The big signal from the Spring | 1:21:35 | 1:21:43 | |
Statement today is what a difficult
hand economic league Philip Hammond | 1:21:43 | 1:21:46 | |
says, the trend growth of the
economy is well below the 2% average | 1:21:46 | 1:21:53 | |
this country was used to. That
raises very big questions about the | 1:21:53 | 1:21:59 | |
funding of public services,
borrowing targets, can the | 1:21:59 | 1:22:02 | |
Government bring down the stock of
debt. Although Philip Hammond opened | 1:22:02 | 1:22:08 | |
the door a crack to possible
spending increases in the autumn | 1:22:08 | 1:22:15 | |
budget, what the OBR has revealed is
how difficult that is. One good news | 1:22:15 | 1:22:23 | |
was the OBR's strong signal it
believes in will fall down to 2% by | 1:22:23 | 1:22:28 | |
the end of the year. Philip Hammond
felt confident enough to say the | 1:22:28 | 1:22:31 | |
real income squeeze which is how
people experience the economy, would | 1:22:31 | 1:22:36 | |
reverse in the first quarter of next
year. Because wages are rising at | 1:22:36 | 1:22:42 | |
2.6%. | 1:22:42 | 1:22:47 | |
2.6%. Reversing the real income
squeeze people are suffering. That | 1:22:47 | 1:22:52 | |
would be an economic boost, consumer
spending is going down, the biggest | 1:22:52 | 1:22:57 | |
driver of economic growth. Did he
really have any basis for being | 1:22:57 | 1:23:00 | |
Tigger like as he put it, when
growth is basically anaemic to Mark | 1:23:00 | 1:23:08 | |
and he can point to very small
adjustments. Doesn't that underline | 1:23:08 | 1:23:12 | |
the weakness in the argument
austerity has worked for everyone? | 1:23:12 | 1:23:20 | |
It has worked for everyone because
it has created jobs, given a | 1:23:20 | 1:23:24 | |
strongly growing economy. It is not.
You have to look across the entire | 1:23:24 | 1:23:30 | |
period, sixth 2010, our economy has
grown much longer than Italy, | 1:23:30 | 1:23:38 | |
France, Germany. These forecasts
change but the overall path is the | 1:23:38 | 1:23:45 | |
right one which is we have cut the
deficit, the debt is starting to | 1:23:45 | 1:23:51 | |
fall and we have scope for more
spending for public services, in | 1:23:51 | 1:23:55 | |
relation to the NHS and education.
But he has made announcements on | 1:23:55 | 1:24:00 | |
public services. He said he would
set an overall path. That is not the | 1:24:00 | 1:24:07 | |
same as announcing spending because
the economy is doing very well. He | 1:24:07 | 1:24:16 | |
has set out a pathway, a balanced
approach which means we continue to | 1:24:16 | 1:24:19 | |
keep the debt falling because we
must prepare for a future shock, but | 1:24:19 | 1:24:23 | |
ensure we have money to spend, and
cut taxes. We are increasing the | 1:24:23 | 1:24:31 | |
personal allowance again. The
message I took was lordly we are on | 1:24:31 | 1:24:36 | |
the same track we set out in the
budget in autumn but have made | 1:24:36 | 1:24:42 | |
progress broadly. On wages, the
announcement he believes inflation | 1:24:42 | 1:24:48 | |
will come back down to around 2%,
that would be good news because | 1:24:48 | 1:24:54 | |
wages would be at breaking
inflation. It would be good to see a | 1:24:54 | 1:25:00 | |
change. We have had the longest
squeeze on wages since Napoleonic | 1:25:00 | 1:25:07 | |
chines -- times. But what we did not
hear him say is when you put our | 1:25:07 | 1:25:13 | |
country in perspective with other
nations, we are the only economy | 1:25:13 | 1:25:16 | |
that has been growing where wages
have not been growing as well. You | 1:25:16 | 1:25:25 | |
will not see that comparison from
the Government, comparing investment | 1:25:25 | 1:25:30 | |
levels either because they are
lower, or productivity levels | 1:25:30 | 1:25:34 | |
because they are lower. Those
fundamentals need to be sorted out | 1:25:34 | 1:25:40 | |
will stop we didn't talk about
productivity. What is the picture? | 1:25:40 | 1:25:45 | |
It seemed to be improving a little.
From a very low base. We have a huge | 1:25:45 | 1:25:54 | |
problem with the financial crisis
when it fell down to 0.2% increase | 1:25:54 | 1:25:58 | |
per quarter. There have been six
months of better numbers but the OBR | 1:25:58 | 1:26:04 | |
has looked at that. The amount of
productivity affects how much growth | 1:26:04 | 1:26:10 | |
we get, it is the way we produce
wealth. The OBR has said there may | 1:26:10 | 1:26:15 | |
be some good news but this is a
volatile figure. It looked through | 1:26:15 | 1:26:22 | |
that, the trend over a decade is
still very poor. The politics, the | 1:26:22 | 1:26:28 | |
response was quite emotional from
John McDonnell, a crisis in our | 1:26:28 | 1:26:34 | |
communities, calling on Tory MPs who
are sceptical about the lack of | 1:26:34 | 1:26:39 | |
spending in public services, to join
Labour ranks. The interesting thing | 1:26:39 | 1:26:48 | |
about that statement was how
marginal the actual economic changes | 1:26:48 | 1:26:51 | |
were. There was a dynamic light at
the end of the tunnel, but that is | 1:26:51 | 1:26:58 | |
not what the numbers that out. What
we know has changed is the political | 1:26:58 | 1:27:03 | |
dynamics. The Chancellor is not
willing to acknowledge that yet. He | 1:27:03 | 1:27:09 | |
did set -- send out a signal for the
longer term but it seems he is not | 1:27:09 | 1:27:16 | |
clear yet to pick a side in what
will be a battle inside the Tory | 1:27:16 | 1:27:20 | |
Party and whether or not they are
going to look and sound like a | 1:27:20 | 1:27:26 | |
different party with public spending
in the next big review. The battle | 1:27:26 | 1:27:34 | |
has now begun over that next big
spending review in 2019 setting the | 1:27:34 | 1:27:38 | |
context for the next general
election. | 1:27:38 | 1:27:42 | |
We haven't spoken about Brexit which
is still the backdrop. The | 1:27:42 | 1:27:47 | |
Chancellor talked about future
potential economic shocks which | 1:27:47 | 1:27:51 | |
might or might not include Brexit.
What was worth noting? He said he | 1:27:51 | 1:27:58 | |
would outline how he would spend
half of the £3 billion they have put | 1:27:58 | 1:28:04 | |
aside to help different departments
prepare for Brexit. Stressing he was | 1:28:04 | 1:28:09 | |
going to allocate half of that
amount. The issue around our trend | 1:28:09 | 1:28:17 | |
growth, the OECD brought out figures
that puts UK growth at the bottom of | 1:28:17 | 1:28:21 | |
the G20. He knows he has an issue
that the gap between our growth and | 1:28:21 | 1:28:28 | |
the growth of other leading Western
economies is growing and is negative | 1:28:28 | 1:28:33 | |
for us. We will have to end it
there. President Trump is due to | 1:28:33 | 1:28:39 | |
speak to Theresa May about the nerve
attack and the latest from | 1:28:39 | 1:28:43 | |
Washington is Rex Tillerson did not
know of the reason he was sacked. | 1:28:43 | 1:28:48 | |
Today was meant to be about the
Spring Statement. Thank you for | 1:28:48 | 1:28:52 | |
joining me in the studio. | 1:28:52 | 1:28:53 | |
That's all for today. | 1:28:53 | 1:28:56 | |
Bye-bye. | 1:28:56 | 1:29:01 |