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Hello and welcome to Dateline London. | :00:23. | :00:24. | |
The murder of a British Member of Parliament - Jo Cox. | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
Is it time to change the way we think of politicians? | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
And, inevitably, something which might not change how | :00:31. | :00:32. | |
we think of politicians - the EU referendum and Brexit. | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
My guests today are: Marc Roche of Le Point and Le Soir, | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
Brian O'Connell, who is an Irish writer and broadcaster, | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
Stephanie Baker of Bloomberg News and Alex Deane of Conservative Home. | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
They are "only in it for themselves." | :00:48. | :00:50. | |
"Careerists" who have never done a "proper job." | :00:51. | :00:52. | |
From Los Angeles to Berlin, Birmingham to Buenos Aires, you hear | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
the same sort of complaints, often amplified by anonymous | :00:56. | :00:57. | |
The murder of a young woman politician, a mother of two | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
children, reminded us that British politicians are mostly | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
approachable, hard working, and - let's be honest - | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
normal, including in making mistakes. | :01:09. | :01:10. | |
Will Jo Cox's murder perhaps moderate the hatred | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
of politicians, including that in the mainstream media? | :01:16. | :01:24. | |
Do you think that some of this hatred has gone too far? One of the | :01:25. | :01:34. | |
things we have In common is that we treat our politicians like dirt, | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
which is absurd. But the most part, politicians are decent people who | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
have gone into that career because they want to make a positive | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
difference. The next point is that it is very difficult to see how much | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
short of isolating them and making them more different from us, you can | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
protect them completely. Jo Cox was not killed and her surgery or In the | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
House of Commons, or somewhere she might have conventional expectations | :01:59. | :02:03. | |
of protection. She was killed on the street. Unless we are saying our MPs | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
can't walk down the streets without some form of extra protection, or | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
element of being removed from society, you are right that has to | :02:13. | :02:15. | |
be a change In the way we perceive them as talk about them, because | :02:16. | :02:19. | |
they are normal, decent human beings. Very occasionally, a stark | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
event like this happens which should serve to remind us of that. Sarah | :02:24. | :02:34. | |
Palin said his basic or vocation for the job is that he is not a | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
politician. You wouldn't say that about a dentist. Have we got to the | :02:38. | :02:45. | |
stage now where anybody In politics is kind of tainted, has a track | :02:46. | :02:53. | |
record? The anti-politics mood has gotten so highly. I think there is | :02:54. | :02:56. | |
that, but I hope this incident reminds us that the majority of MPs | :02:57. | :03:02. | |
are going into it with good intentions and are not necessarily | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
In it for themselves. They don't dominate the news headlines because | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
they are just going about doing their job. I do think it would be a | :03:12. | :03:19. | |
shame if this resulted In people not wanting to go into politics, people | :03:20. | :03:22. | |
being afraid to enter the public sphere. They are putting themselves | :03:23. | :03:29. | |
Out there every day, and subjecting -- they are subjected to attacks. | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
Particularly female politicians, as we have seen of the past month or | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
so, being attacked endlessly on Twitter. Having very little recourse | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
and very little way to respond. But something I want to touch on. Female | :03:44. | :03:48. | |
politicians In particular gaps the kind of absolutely horrendous abuse. | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
All politicians get some of it, but female politicians seem to get more. | :03:54. | :04:00. | |
Yes, and I think Jo Cox had been receiving e-mails, which we know | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
from the police, before this happens. Not necessarily from the | :04:07. | :04:10. | |
same man who has been arrested and charged. I think it's something that | :04:11. | :04:17. | |
has been pointed Out, but there has been no real response. The police | :04:18. | :04:21. | |
need to take this far more seriously when the male politicians are | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
attacked by trolls on Twitter. A male politician was stabbed. Stephen | :04:26. | :04:37. | |
Timms. Ian Dow was murdered. The Telegraph carried a story on the | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
front page today about several female MPs who had written to the | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
Parliamentary authorities In the last year complaining that security | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
provided for them was inadequate, including one saying that unless | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
security In our constituencies improves, I fear is that the | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
terrible as gods happen. And the big, had effectively rejected that | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
something like this might happen. The flip side is that I think it is | :05:00. | :05:05. | |
a great asset In British democracy that our MPs are accessible, live | :05:06. | :05:08. | |
amongst their constituents, are part their everyday lives. Getting that | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
balance right is something we got to bear In mind. There is a hatred of | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
politicians In Ireland as well. Do you think part of it is that we've | :05:20. | :05:23. | |
all gone three hard times. We don't like the way they didn't predict it. | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
It's all gone wrong understanding rotten in the system. That's true in | :05:29. | :05:34. | |
most democracies. Yes, and in Britain the expenses scandal had a | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
lot to do with this. I think that's really where the current wave has | :05:39. | :05:46. | |
started. The phenomenal Donald Trump is partly because of the failure of | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
establishment politicians to address issues like immigration and | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
globalisation and the effect that has unemployment. So you have a | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
whole blue-collar swathe of voters saying we don't like establishment | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
politicians any more because they don't represent us. Here, it's | :06:04. | :06:08. | |
slightly different. It's very difficult to see how you can protect | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
politicians, and he's in this country. The very being, the | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
essence, of a public workers resented it is that you're meeting | :06:17. | :06:22. | |
the public. As you pointed out, she wasn't actually killed in her | :06:23. | :06:27. | |
surgery or in her office, she was killed on the street. How is this in | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
France? President Hollande was shocked by it. Angela Merkel made | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
some comments. This is something politicians across Europe are very | :06:38. | :06:44. | |
worried about because of the attitude that all politicians are | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
rotten. There is a difference with Britain. In Britain, I find MPs are | :06:48. | :07:02. | |
much more incompetent -- there is no surgery. Very often it is much more | :07:03. | :07:08. | |
the top of the party that aside the business. Britain is a fantastic | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
system will stop if they system where you have a direct contact with | :07:14. | :07:23. | |
your constituents. Ireland remove Racine David Cameron in his | :07:24. | :07:26. | |
constituency in Witney. He told me he had seen eight people might say. | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
I was saying, but he is the Prime Minister. He has other things to do. | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
It's a fantastic system. We have to preserve it. The problem is that you | :07:37. | :07:39. | |
cannot, especially at a time of referendum, when people get | :07:40. | :07:47. | |
extremely -- extreme in their views on both sides. Jo Cox wasn't killed | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
in a vacuum, she was killed because of xenophobic, hateful... We have to | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
wait and see what the trial will produce. The rhetoric does touch on | :07:59. | :08:04. | |
a point. A lot of the rhetoric in this referendum has not been about, | :08:05. | :08:11. | |
this is how the economy might be, it's been about, you are no good, on | :08:12. | :08:19. | |
both sides. You began by setting out that we treat MPs badly and I | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
accepted that premise. What I don't agree with is the attempt to | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
politicise this woman's death. Mind you might this is the act of a | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
madman, the act of someone who must be condensed. It sits outside the | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
conventional little system. The attempt to ascribe blame to the | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
campaigns or order politicians conducting their political affairs | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
in this country to the best of their ability is one of the most | :08:45. | :08:46. | |
pernicious and unpleasant things I have seen... Would you accept, | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
without making that direct reference, that there are political | :08:51. | :08:54. | |
systems, thinking of Northern Ireland where I spent a long time, | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
were people say things which are incendiary and other people take | :08:58. | :09:03. | |
that up as a mission to do stuff. I'm not sure I would. In the end, | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
part of the vital discourse in a democratic society is free speech. | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
Some of it is pointing out what you believe to be truth, and some of | :09:12. | :09:14. | |
that truth is unpalatable to others. In this debate, but the first time | :09:15. | :09:20. | |
in a generation in our country, we have been debating immigration. I | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
think that's good and healthy. I think the unhealthy thing is our | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
unwillingness for the last 20 years to address directly. You treat the | :09:27. | :09:38. | |
problem, the problem of immigration. It was xenophobic, it was nasty. It | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
made a whole group of people, including myself, it made us wonder | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
what is our future in this country? That was big climate created where | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
some not, and I'm not saying there is any link between what happens and | :09:56. | :10:01. | |
the campaign, some not will get so worked up against immigrants that he | :10:02. | :10:09. | |
will take a target. What are people supposed to do? This is a campaign | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
about a referendum were people have been accused of being unfair. We may | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
not have another chance to vote. If you believe that, what should you | :10:19. | :10:26. | |
do? There's only one person saying you lot and divisive in that way. | :10:27. | :10:33. | |
Nigel Farage came up with this poster which has been criticised. | :10:34. | :10:42. | |
Breaking point, it says. Was that factions? I can't imagine that he | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
would have gone ahead and done that without Vote Leave knowing about it. | :10:46. | :10:55. | |
He is a member of Ukip. To be clear, I wouldn't distance myself from that | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
poster. No, I wouldn't. That's where we come across the difference | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
between those who coalesce around the league perspective and say, I | :11:04. | :11:05. | |
dismissed the concerns of the everyday members of the public, and | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
those who are willing to say I think this has gone too far. This is a | :11:10. | :11:15. | |
photograph something that actually happened. That was not happening on | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
the shores of Britain. That was a misrepresentation. I don't did | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
anyone is suggesting it was happening on the shores of Britain. | :11:24. | :11:28. | |
As soon as say, that's now, you are racist for having those views and | :11:29. | :11:32. | |
therefore I win, I think that's a pernicious aspect of what is | :11:33. | :11:35. | |
happening, not just in this debate but in the last 20 or 30 years. One | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
of the issues from what Alex says is true, part of the reason that leaves | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
are now ahead in the polls is that the remaining sides have not been | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
able to say, yes, you have a legitimate concern about | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
immigration. All the people who are going to Vote Leave, have legitimate | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
concerns about immigration, however, leaving the EU will not solve those. | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
What the remains I'd have done is said we will talk about the economy | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
and the Leeds side have banged the immigration issue the whole time. | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
Because there is no acceptance by remainder there is a legitimate | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
concern about immigration In this country, as they should be able to | :12:19. | :12:26. | |
say that it will probably make it worse. You have the single market, | :12:27. | :12:37. | |
you take advantage of it. You cannot put into question the free movement. | :12:38. | :12:44. | |
What the Remain cap has failed to point Out is how the economy now, | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
just this week we had figures showing 5% unemployment, the lowest | :12:50. | :12:55. | |
rate In 11 years. There are vast sectors of the economy that are | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
incredibly dependent on EU migrant labour. Without that flow of labour, | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
we will be In deep trouble. Know one around this table relies on public | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
services the way people In the United Kingdom do. It's very easy | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
for us to dismiss those concerns. I don't know how often you use the NHS | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
or have received benefits, or your children are In state schools, or | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
under pressure from the increased population. The glib dismissal of | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
any concern along those lines, not just by you but by the broad | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
political media and mainstream, is one of the big flaws. It isn't In an | :13:30. | :13:41. | |
even way. The people who are most dependent on the state, who have the | :13:42. | :13:44. | |
largest concerns about immigration, I dismissed the most. The British | :13:45. | :13:51. | |
government should investigate the NHS that might invest In the NHS. | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
It's not the fault of these people who work and have a right. And the | :13:55. | :14:02. | |
like of investment may not be a matter of priority In the end. | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
There's only so much to go round. It is legitimate to point Out that | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
there is a strain on the resources In this country. The point I'm | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
making is that the extent to which Remain has dismissed those concerns | :14:14. | :14:19. | |
as racist, they lose the majority. They're just not accepting that it | :14:20. | :14:25. | |
is a legitimate concern. But it's not going to solve the questions you | :14:26. | :14:33. | |
raise about immigration. We were stuck -- discussing the state of the | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
two campaigns. My point was that the extent to which Remain relies on | :14:38. | :14:45. | |
that dismissal... There's a couple of points there that were made about | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
mainstream media, and having made quite a lot on Twitter and elsewhere | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
this week. One is that the mainstream media itself demonises | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
politicians, but we are always looking In general for the scandal, | :14:57. | :15:03. | |
the occasional politician taking too much on expenses and so on. But | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
that's a great thing about Britain. You have these fantastic -- this | :15:09. | :15:13. | |
fantastic press and that's why it's a less corrupt country than the | :15:14. | :15:19. | |
continent, so you can't have it all. You can't have a fantastic press, | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
even with these adulation and all that is, but on the holder is less | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
corruption and bounce an example for the continents. I think you would | :15:30. | :15:36. | |
agree that there is a degree of subservience In France, is that | :15:37. | :15:46. | |
right, to the press? Absolutely not. To go back to your point about the | :15:47. | :15:52. | |
elites, many British newspapers are run by extremely rich people who are | :15:53. | :15:58. | |
all In favour of Brexit will stop they have given endless publicity to | :15:59. | :16:02. | |
the migration question. Murdoch has the Sun. The Times has Remain. Your | :16:03. | :16:10. | |
point is that immigration has been ignored by elites. I dumping it has | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
been ignored by the media elite, if there is such a thing. He would say | :16:14. | :16:20. | |
that contributed to a climate of things. It is pressing the concerns | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
of readers, X expressing something that the genuine story. What has | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
been done on the left side -- left-hand side of politics, the | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
Guardian and so forth, people have sought to dismiss those concerns as | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
being the concerns of those who judge others on race rather than | :16:39. | :16:44. | |
making a simple evaluation that this country has enough people ready. I | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
think you are distorting the contribution of EU migrants In this | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
country. I think they contribute more than they take Out of the | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
system. That's not a robot or what the point I was making. Can we move | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
on to this question of experts and elites which has been underlying | :17:05. | :17:11. | |
everything. Can you explain why so many people, who are quoted experts, | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
economists, leading economists and others, scientists, who are In the | :17:17. | :17:23. | |
Remain camp, are ignored by many British people, when clearly, the | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
opinion polls suggest, are going to vote for Brexit? Why do we not trust | :17:27. | :17:32. | |
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who says, I'm running the economy and I | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
tell you it's going to be even more austere TiVo to get Out? It is part | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
of this nasty anti-elites, and the experts, anti-people, that the | :17:43. | :17:51. | |
pro-Brexit camp is taking. It comes with very sensible argument and | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
people don't listen to it. But they will listen In case Britain leaves | :17:57. | :18:04. | |
and disaster will strike. On the other hand, it is also about | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
economics. It's not just about saying, you are elite and therefore | :18:10. | :18:12. | |
we don't listen. It's about saying, you have been consistently wrong. | :18:13. | :18:18. | |
Wrong about the pounds failing. It's the same circle of experts. People | :18:19. | :18:24. | |
are judging them on their performance. Is a fallacy to say all | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
economists were supportive of the euro. After euro projects, | :18:29. | :18:42. | |
generally. That is a fallacy. I just think that they're not listening to | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
economists is not listening to business leaders who, the vast | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
majority of big employers In this country who have come Out In favour | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
of Remain, saying it could impact our ability to do business. Staying | :18:57. | :19:04. | |
In the EU is good for business. You have the leader of the SNP, the | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
leader of the Conservative Party, the leader of every major party, | :19:08. | :19:16. | |
with exception of Ukip, but are they all wrong? Yes. Add to this | :19:17. | :19:23. | |
referendum is conducted, we will have a job of work to put the | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
Conservative Party back again. I don't get a problem because, In the | :19:30. | :19:32. | |
end, the Conservative Party knows what it's true enemy is, the Labour | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
Party. The Labour Party knows what it's true enemy is added is also the | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
Labour Party. They're busy tearing themselves apart. We have a nice | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
time when the Tories can... I certainly think George Osborne | :19:47. | :19:49. | |
didn't do himself with the Remain side or the Conservative Party any | :19:50. | :19:56. | |
favours when he threatens a ?30 billion post Brexit budgets. He made | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
himself look very silly. There will be a bill. This is a man who | :20:02. | :20:08. | |
admitted Cisco targets and he's not going to do it all In one year. We | :20:09. | :20:16. | |
go back to this speech. If you create a climate of fear, the Labour | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
Party is not the enemy of the Tories, it is the adversary. That | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
way will -- we live In such a nasty environment. The other side are just | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
the opposition. In terms of this wider question, Trump, Golden Dawn, | :20:35. | :20:44. | |
Sarah 's, Ukip, breaking up politics as usual. That will continue and | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
that's perhaps why has guards, has had great difficulties forming a | :20:50. | :20:51. | |
governance. Sinn Fein have done very well. Outside parties. People | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
promised transformation rather than managerial politics. They are doing | :20:58. | :21:05. | |
very well across Europe. Part of it is that practically every country | :21:06. | :21:08. | |
you mention that there is In the single currency. Part of it has come | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
through the crisis, the fiscal crisis, that has hit the euro. | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
There's no doubt about that. I think it is still also part of this | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
antiestablishment view of politics that we have seen before. User | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
people, if you look to Spain, the far less, is not whether it is left | :21:29. | :21:37. | |
or right, it could be -- it is anti-politics. That's the thing, it | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
is antiestablishment politics. It's not just In theory, it's based on | :21:42. | :21:47. | |
the reality In people's lives. 50% youth unemployment In Greece. They | :21:48. | :21:50. | |
have sacrificed a generation on the altar of the EU. I should've got Out | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
but they wouldn't have been allowed to. As a political project not being | :21:55. | :22:02. | |
judged on its economics. I think the euro has survived. It has survived. | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
How do you explain that, In your country, you have all this hatred | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
and all this xenophobia? Let's go back to Britain. While unemployed is | :22:14. | :22:20. | |
low, while the economy is doing fantastically well, why did you have | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
all that, because politicians on the right... You were demonstrating the | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
inability to understand that it is not racist or about hatred, is a | :22:32. | :22:39. | |
simple evaluation... I am not on the receiving end. People are racist to | :22:40. | :22:48. | |
you In this country? Yes, they are. Many people ask themselves, will | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
they Leave? You're Irish, you can vote. I think the reason why you | :22:54. | :23:03. | |
have people like Trump, and I put this support for Brexit In the same | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
camp, it's not about, it's being presented In the context of all of | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
our problems are due to immigration, as opposed to looking at the | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
economic forces are behind this. You have working-class voters who have | :23:18. | :23:24. | |
genuine complaints, but wages declined, you have a growing | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
disparity between rich and poor. There is growing resentment as a | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
result of that. That's an interesting point, because the | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
economy, In the aggregate, if you look at the figures, looks very | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
healthy. But the economy for individual citizens is not very | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
healthy. That's part of the point I have been seeking to make. That's | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
not the fault of migrants or immigration. Nobody is saying | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
immigration In this country is going to stop, it is the ability to choose | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
it and control it. The attempt to judge people based on race has been | :23:55. | :24:04. | |
made by you. Now! The Brexit people are racist. I think the Brexit | :24:05. | :24:12. | |
people have done a racist campaign. Some people might think that Britain | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
leading the EU, changing that treaty arrangement with our neighbours, | :24:17. | :24:19. | |
maybe be a decision makes on national interest rather than race. | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
I don't think it's race. I think it's xenophobia. It is... We have a | :24:24. | :24:32. | |
minute or two left. I think you have to look... Britain is slightly | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
different from other countries. Southern European countries like | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
Greece and Spain and Portugal, if you look at why they joined the | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
European Union, the common market, the EC, whatever it was, it was to | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
get away from these sort of dictatorship, for democracy. If you | :24:50. | :24:51. | |
look at Eastern Europe, it was because they didn't want any more | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
awards. If you look at France and Germany, it's because that's where | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
the Second World War was forced Out, on their territory. What Britain | :25:00. | :25:09. | |
joins was an economic trading alliance, which is turned into a | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
political alliance. I understand that. That's why Euroscepticism is | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
particularly English. Ireland joined on the same day as Britain. Ireland | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
joined for a completely different reasons. If you want to talk about | :25:23. | :25:32. | |
sovereignty, exchange rates, interest rates were set for the | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
punt, the old Irish currency, by the bank of inward about time. For us, | :25:38. | :25:40. | |
it was actually with -- regaining sovereignty. I don't think anyone In | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
Ireland would argue that they have a of June. Are going to have to Leave | :25:47. | :25:48. | |
it there. You can comment on the programme | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
on Twitter - @gavinesler - We're back next week | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
at the same time. Hello. We will all get at least one | :25:58. | :26:25. | |
decent day Out of the weekend. Some areas will manage to stay dry right | :26:26. | :26:30. | |
the way through. The emphasis is definitely on dry weather tree | :26:31. | :26:32. | |
today. A bit of sunshine around. | :26:33. | :26:34. |