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I'm Gavin Esler, and welcome to Holyrood. | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
Here in Scotland with nearly all the results in, Labour have been | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
beaten into third place as the SNP claim victory | :00:13. | :00:15. | |
in the Scottish Parliament elections. | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
Nicola Sturgeon's party receives nearly half the vote - | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
but may fall short of an overall majority. | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
What we're seeing tonight is a huge vote of confidence in the SNP's | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
record in government, and an enormous vote of trust | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
in our ability to move the country forward. | :00:31. | :00:36. | |
Ruth Davidson's Scottish Conservatives overtake Labour | :00:37. | :00:37. | |
for the first time to become the main opposition. | :00:38. | :00:43. | |
In England, Labour have put in a better performance | :00:44. | :00:55. | |
Jeremy Corbyn's party have retained key councils in England and won two | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
Hello, I'm Sian Lloyd at Cardiff Bay. | :01:01. | :01:03. | |
Labour are set to remain the biggest party in Wales, | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
Ukip win their first seats in the Welsh Assembly. | :01:06. | :01:15. | |
And there's a stunning personal victory for the leader of | :01:16. | :01:20. | |
We'll bring you all of the latest reaction and results | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
It is a glorious morning in Edinburgh. Welcome to Election 2016. | :01:25. | :01:56. | |
Results from regional and local elections have been coming | :01:57. | :01:58. | |
in through the night across the UK - and will continue throughout | :01:59. | :02:01. | |
It seems Labour losses have been fewer than some | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
in the party had feared, and the Conservatives | :02:05. | :02:06. | |
We're live at Holyrood - the home of the Scottish Parliament | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
- where the Scottish National Party have won a third term in power. | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
And with another meltdown in the Labour vote north | :02:14. | :02:15. | |
of the border, it looks like the Conservatives will overtake | :02:16. | :02:17. | |
them here to take second place and become the official opposition. | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
As it stands, here in Scotland the SNP remain the largest | :02:24. | :02:25. | |
The Conservatives are now the second largest party in Holyrood. | :02:26. | :02:38. | |
They made gains, picking up an extra 14 seats, | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
which means that they now have more representation in the Scottish | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
Overall it was a bad night for Labour in Scotland - losing 12 MSPs. | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
So far, with 80 authorities declared, Labour have fared better | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
in the English local elections, managing to hold on to | :02:51. | :02:52. | |
all but one of the 42 councils it was defending. | :02:53. | :02:54. | |
Elsewhere it was a largely unchanged picture. | :02:55. | :02:57. | |
In Wales, Labour suffered a 6% drop in its share of the vote, | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
which cost them one seat in the Welsh Assembly. | :03:02. | :03:07. | |
Despite that, they are set to remain the biggest party. | :03:08. | :03:10. | |
Those losses at the expense of the Welsh nationalist | :03:11. | :03:12. | |
Ukip have also won their first seats in the Welsh Assembly. | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
Our political correspondent Iain Watson has been | :03:17. | :03:18. | |
Scotland's First Minister, cheered by her own supporters | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
in Glasgow when it became clear that the SNP would once again be | :03:23. | :03:25. | |
the largest party by far in the Scottish Parliament. | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
What we're seeing tonight is a huge vote of confidence in the SNP's | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
record in government, and an enormous vote of trust | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
in our ability to lead the country forward. | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
But scratch beneath the surface, and the SNP victory | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has ambitions to lead | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
the opposition in Scotland, replacing Labour, and she's coming | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
And there was even a crumb of comfort for the | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
They snatched a couple of seats from the Scottish nationalists. | :03:56. | :04:00. | |
But for Labour, there was little to cheer about. | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
The SNP maintained their surge at this party's expense. | :04:03. | :04:07. | |
Former Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont was one | :04:08. | :04:08. | |
The current leader, Kez Dugdale, campaigned on a platform | :04:09. | :04:16. | |
Jeremy Corbyn would approve of, pledging better public services, | :04:17. | :04:18. | |
The Labour leader himself is under pressure. | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
Many of his own MPs were lining up to criticise him. | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
But the party's performance was not as bad as expected. | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
Labour retained two safe Parliamentary seats - | :04:31. | :04:32. | |
And in the council elections, they didn't just hold on in northern | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
heartlands but defied expectations on the south coast, | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
retaining control in Southampton and in Hastings. | :04:42. | :04:49. | |
But with fewer Labour councillors overall, | :04:50. | :04:50. | |
some MPs are saying the results aren't good enough. | :04:51. | :04:54. | |
There are a lot of brilliant Labour council candidates and Assembly | :04:55. | :04:59. | |
members across the country tonight waking up who will not have a seat | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
These elections should have been challenging for David Cameron, | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
as members of his Cabinet now clash regularly over Europe. | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
But even critics in his own party expect the Conservatives to end up | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
with more councillors once all the results are in. | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
Almost you become conditioned, a year into a government, to know | :05:18. | :05:20. | |
that you're going to have a dreadful night sitting here and saying, | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
well, they're not really as disastrous as they look. | :05:24. | :05:25. | |
And in fact, this is very different from most programmes that I can | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
remember one year into a government, because this is when the opposition | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
Labour is expected to be the largest party in the Welsh Assembly, | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
while Ukip has now won two seats there for the first time. | :05:38. | :05:45. | |
It has been a big night of the Ukip, we are making breakthroughs in | :05:46. | :05:52. | |
places like Wales, we have never had elected representation before. We | :05:53. | :05:56. | |
also winning council seats in England, but coming almost | :05:57. | :05:57. | |
everywhere. The results in London will not be | :05:58. | :05:58. | |
declared until later today. Voters in Northern Ireland will have | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
to wait until the weekend to get Just to confirm, we have the final | :06:02. | :06:15. | |
results up the Scottish elections, the SNP have an historic third | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
victory, with 63 seats in the Scottish Parliament. But that is two | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
short of an overall majority. A Scottish parliament was not designed | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
for any one party to have an overall majority, so you could say that what | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
has been remarkable is that they have had that in the last few years, | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
but they are just short, so there are questions about whether they | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
will form a formal or informal coalition with other parties, or | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
just work on an ad hoc basis in order to get the majority. | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
The SNP now has 63 seats, the final result, and an extraordinary result | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
the Ruth Davidson's Conservative Party north of the border, they have | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
31 seats, they are the main opposition party in Scotland, a | :06:59. | :07:01. | |
brand that many conservatives themselves would have said was toxic | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
for many years, Ruth Davidson and her team have somehow managed to | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
turn it around. Let's get more perspective on the nationwide | :07:10. | :07:10. | |
elections. Our assistant political | :07:11. | :07:11. | |
editor Norman Smith Norman, is there a consistent story | :07:12. | :07:20. | |
or a series of rather different patterns in different parts of the | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
country? Gulp there is a story, which is how little has changed | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
overnight. That tells us a number of things. It tells us that Mr Corbyn | :07:29. | :07:35. | |
is safe, for now. It tells us, too, of the deep doldrums into which | :07:36. | :07:42. | |
Labour has already sunk. That might sound contradictory but, to some | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
extent, Mr Corbyn's position is saved by the fact that expectations | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
were so catastrophically low, projections he could lose 150 or so | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
seats, so when he only losers around 25, his team are able to go, that | :07:57. | :08:01. | |
was not so bad overall. But when you look at it in the normal narrative | :08:02. | :08:05. | |
of politics you are looking at an opposition party after six years of | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
a Government implementing pretty tough austerity in the wake of a | :08:12. | :08:18. | |
near civil war over Europe, after a catastrophic general election | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
defeat, still unable to make any progress. The slightly paradoxical | :08:23. | :08:29. | |
situation is that that is perhaps the worst possible result for Mr | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
Corbyn's critics, because they do not have the killer blow now to say, | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
right, we had to go for him, he must be moved, because they can't point | :08:39. | :08:43. | |
to a massive loss of seats. Then again, result simply confirm their | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
conviction that they cannot win under Mr Corbyn. This uneasy | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
stand-off in the Labour Party persists. A fairly acrimonious | :08:52. | :08:59. | |
stand-off. Last night one of Mr Corbyn's key allies, Clive Lewis, | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
said to critics, shut up or get out. I have had texts this morning from | :09:04. | :09:09. | |
leading Corbyn critics saying, OK, he only has until next year, and if | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
things do not turn around by then, he is out. The deputy leader of the | :09:14. | :09:18. | |
party, Tom Watt is, this morning was urging people to be patient, not to | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
rush judgment -- Tom Watson. I think that will buy this to call than some | :09:25. | :09:31. | |
time. This is what Tom Watson said. Goodbye party members and even | :09:32. | :09:34. | |
opponents would say that after only eight in office you have to give | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
Jeremy more space to develop parties and the direction of the party. I | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
just hope that my colleagues will understand that. They must respect | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
the mandate that members gave Jeremy, to lead the party. | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
I guess, for the Tories, some surprise and probably some | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
satisfaction that they have lost one council, Worcester, but they have | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
gained one, Peter Brown, and that is despite the bunfight over Europe | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
raging around us, day after day. -- gained one, Peterborough. | :10:11. | :10:22. | |
Potentially the Lib Dems average lot -- rock bottom and clawing their way | :10:23. | :10:28. | |
up again. Ukip, piling up second places behind Labour in traditional | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
Labour seats, first past the post stopping them from winning much, | :10:33. | :10:38. | |
although they seem poised to gain around 40 councillors overall, and | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
representation on the Welsh Assembly for the first time, so some progress | :10:42. | :10:46. | |
for Ukip. Thank you very much, Norman. | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
In the last few minutes the last few results have been declared in the | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
Scottish election. The SNP have lost their overall majority, they are two | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
seats short. In the first big test | :11:01. | :11:01. | |
of public opinion since last year's general election, | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
Labour has suffered The party is third in Scotland, the | :11:05. | :11:11. | |
Tories are now the major opposition. Lorna Gordon has more. | :11:12. | :11:14. | |
If she was feeling nervous, she didn't show it. | :11:15. | :11:16. | |
Nicola Sturgeon, leading her party into the Holyrood elections | :11:17. | :11:18. | |
for the first time, her personal appeal at the heart | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
To seek and to win a mandate as the First Minister | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
of our country is a special and very precious thing. | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
I pledge that, over these next five years, | :11:33. | :11:34. | |
I will govern in the interests of everyone in Scotland. | :11:35. | :11:41. | |
Another party whose push for votes was based around their leader, | :11:42. | :11:44. | |
Ruth Davidson, positioning her party as the defenders of the union. | :11:45. | :11:50. | |
I am under no illusions that everyone in that seat who voted | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
for me is a true blue, died in the wool Tory. | :11:54. | :11:55. | |
They're not, and neither are they in places up and down Scotland. | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
They are people who want us to do a very specific job, | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
and it is a job that me and my new team of MSPs coming | :12:02. | :12:04. | |
in take very seriously, and that is to hold | :12:05. | :12:06. | |
For Labour, it was deja vu as one by one their seats fell. | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
While this was a night of celebration for some, | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
for Scottish Labour's Kezia Dugdale, it was one to endure. | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
There is no doubt that the defeat for the Labour Party tonight | :12:20. | :12:22. | |
is painful, but it is not the end of our campaign. | :12:23. | :12:25. | |
We will continue to argue for Labour values, Labour ideas | :12:26. | :12:28. | |
The work to renew the Scottish Labour | :12:29. | :12:35. | |
Party so that it is fit to serve the people | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
For the Liberal Democrats, their message | :12:39. | :12:40. | |
that they would punch above their weight punched through, | :12:41. | :12:42. | |
holding onto their seats in the Northern Isles, | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
expanding their reach on the mainland. | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
With the list votes still being counted, | :12:48. | :12:48. | |
the final tally of seats for each party is not yet clear, but | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
this was another successful night for the SNP, who are set for a third | :12:52. | :12:55. | |
With me is our Scotland correspondent, Kevin Keane. | :12:56. | :13:12. | |
That is for some perspective on these extraordinary results. The | :13:13. | :13:20. | |
SNP, 63 seats, just short of an overall majority, but it is an | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
extraordinary, historic performance. As are all of these results. | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
Although at first glance it would look like the SNP did less well than | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
they had expected, or less well than five years ago, in fact, they | :13:33. | :13:37. | |
brought in around 156,000 more votes macro than the last time, and yet, | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
as they say, they have wrought in fewer seats. That is because the way | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
the system works, they have a second voting system, a list which counters | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
the constituency vote, and because they have done better in the | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
constituency they have much fewer of the list votes, overall they have | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
come up with fewer seats even though they have polled more votes. For a | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
party nine years into government, to still be increasing the number of | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
votes they take in at this stage is quite some story. It is also worth | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
reflecting on this truly amazing result for the Conservatives macro | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
in Scotland, a brand which was considered by conservatives macro | :14:20. | :14:22. | |
themselves almost to be toxic. You did not talk about being a Tory. | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
Ruth Davidson has somehow turned that around. Whether that is by | :14:28. | :14:32. | |
personality or what it is about, it is hard to quantify. That might be | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
some of it. They have permeated, as well as the list, back into some | :14:38. | :14:43. | |
areas that traditionally, pre-devolution, were conservative | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
parklands. West Aberdeenshire, one was an MP in the 1980s, for a large | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
period that was a conservative. The Lib Dems have held up their vote, | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
they have free taken a seat in North East Fife which was a Liberal | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
Democrat seat before the SNP took it over a few years ago -- they have | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
retaken. They have almost doubled the amount of votes they have taken | :15:07. | :15:13. | |
in and become the biggest -- second biggest party in Holyrood. With the | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
Labour Party in Scotland, it has been a real disaster for them, as | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
was predicted. But Kezia Dugdale has said she is in it for the long-term, | :15:23. | :15:26. | |
they have lost the seats but she has talked about a five-year plan, | :15:27. | :15:30. | |
unlike down in Westminster, as we know, there are lots of people in | :15:31. | :15:34. | |
the parliamentary party unhappy at the leadership down there, there | :15:35. | :15:37. | |
does not seem to be any noises off with the party Labour voters in | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
Scotland calling for Kezia Dugdale to go, despite the size of the | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
defeat she has suffered. Thank you. Scotland's First Minister Nicola | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
Sturgeon said the SNP had made history by winning a third | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
consecutive parliament election. What is now beyond doubt | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
is that the SNP has won a third consecutive | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
Scottish Parliament election. That has never been done | :16:01. | :16:05. | |
before in the history It is a vote of confidence | :16:06. | :16:07. | |
in the record in government of the SNP, and it is a vote | :16:08. | :16:25. | |
of trust in the SNP to lead We in the SNP will always | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
stand up for Scotland, and tonight Scotland has | :16:32. | :16:39. | |
stood with us. And I want, in closing tonight, | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
to make a pledge to every single To seek and to win a mandate | :16:44. | :16:47. | |
as the First Minister of our country is a special | :16:48. | :16:56. | |
and very precious thing. I pledge that, over | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
these next five years, I will govern in the interests | :17:01. | :17:07. | |
of everyone in Scotland. Joining me now is the Deputy First | :17:08. | :17:17. | |
Minister of Scotland, John Swinney. But to see you, congratulations, a | :17:18. | :17:23. | |
historic third win. I have to offer some commiserations that you did not | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
get the overall majority? What came out of the election last night is a | :17:28. | :17:31. | |
truly historic result. It was a third consecutive win of a Scottish | :17:32. | :17:37. | |
Parliamentary election. No other party has ever done that. For the | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
first time ever, a party has pulled 1 million votes in the constituency | :17:43. | :17:48. | |
election, which the SNP did last night. So there is a tremendous | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
amount to celebrate from what happened years today. That is borne | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
out by the fact that we have continued to grow our votes and the | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
number of constituency seats that we have won. Would you accept that the | :18:00. | :18:05. | |
country is still split down the middle between those who are in | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
favour of the union and those who are probably in favour of | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
independence? So things have not changed dramatically in that sense? | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
People have exercised their democratic choice across a range of | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
issues and parties. The SNP has emerged as the largest political | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
party, with 63 seats in the next Scottish Parliament. That's a | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
commanding lead. Nobody has ever won as many constituency seats. The | :18:32. | :18:38. | |
Conservatives now have a very strong voice, with Davidson says she will | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
hold you to account. You add up the pro-union parties, and they are | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
pretty much have the country. You can add up the parties on either | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
side and you can see that the pro-independence parties have got a | :18:52. | :18:55. | |
majority within the parliament. There are ways of looking at it. But | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
I think the key point to reflect upon is that the Scottish National | :19:00. | :19:05. | |
Party, after nine years in, government has gone into, come out | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
as the leading political party, within a hairs breadth of having a | :19:10. | :19:16. | |
Parliamentary majority. That is a great colossal achievement. Looking | :19:17. | :19:19. | |
at it a different way, your supporters will expect you to move | :19:20. | :19:23. | |
ahead with the biggest part of your agenda, which would be another | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
referendum - do you have a mandate for that now? We set out that there | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
has to be a consistent and significant demonstration of support | :19:33. | :19:34. | |
for independence, and that would have to change from the position | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
which was achieved in the referendum in September 2014. That change has | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
not taken place, so we are not advancing the proposal of a second | :19:46. | :19:48. | |
independence referendum. If we want to have one, we have to earn that | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
right by persuading people in Scotland that independence | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
represents the best way forward for our country. We set out to the | :19:56. | :19:58. | |
people in Scotland a manifesto which was about delivering successful | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
people in Scotland through rising educational attainment, through the | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
quality of public services and through stimulating our economy. | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
That is the programme for government which the SNP will concentrate on | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
delivering. You have now got tax-raising powers. Labour said they | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
would increase income tax by onep. You did not say that. What will | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
change, as you try to offer something different? I'm sorry, I | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
think we now have to go to the count in Llanelli. I, being the regional | :20:29. | :20:41. | |
returning officer, hereby give notice that the number of votes | :20:42. | :20:44. | |
recorded for each party is as follows... Abolish The Welsh | :20:45. | :21:02. | |
Assembly... 10,000 707. Association Of Welsh Local Independence, 1032. | :21:03. | :21:26. | |
Welsh Conservatives, 44,000 461. People First Fighting For Wales, | :21:27. | :21:43. | |
1496. Plaid Cymru, the Party Of Wales, 56,754. | :21:44. | :21:55. | |
The Official Monster Raving Loony Party, 1071. Ukip Wales, 25,042. | :21:56. | :22:16. | |
Wales Green Party, 8222. Welsh Christian Party Proclaiming | :22:17. | :22:42. | |
Christ's Lordship, 1103. Welsh Communist Party, 423. Welsh Labour, | :22:43. | :23:07. | |
41,975. Welsh Liberal Democrats, 23,554. | :23:08. | :23:17. | |
And I do thereby declare that the under mentioned are duly elected as | :23:18. | :23:26. | |
the four members for the said electoral region. | :23:27. | :23:37. | |
HE SPEAKS IN WELSH. Let's get a bit of perspective on this from our | :23:38. | :23:52. | |
correspondent Sian Lloyd, who joins us from Cardiff bay. Yes, good | :23:53. | :23:57. | |
morning to you from Cardiff bay, the home of the Welsh SMB. We were just | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
seeing there the latest declaration coming in for the regional list of | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
made and West Wales. Two Labour candidates are returned on that | :24:08. | :24:13. | |
list, and also Neil Hamilton for Ukip. It has been a big story of the | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
night here in Wales - Ukip, for the first time, will be presented here | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
at the National Assembly. So far, they have picked up six seats on the | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
regional list, which is the proportional representation element | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
of the National Assembly. We can now listen to Neil Hamilton... Ukip has | :24:35. | :24:46. | |
made a great breakthrough today, and I don't think that the politics of | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
the assembly will ever be the same again. I have had enough experience | :24:51. | :24:55. | |
of losing elections myself, or not being selected for seats, to know | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
that with the joy of winning comes the heartache of not winning. And I | :25:00. | :25:04. | |
would like first award to pay tribute to my running mate Gethin | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
Jones, who did not quite make it today, but will make it one day - I | :25:10. | :25:17. | |
hope not through my falling off my perch during my period of office, | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
but through election next time round. I would also like to pay a | :25:23. | :25:36. | |
tribute to Bill Powell, who has been a first-class member of the | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
assembly, and it will be the poorer without him. This has been quite a | :25:41. | :25:48. | |
surprising turn of events for me. I had not anticipated that at the age | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
of 607I would once again be in it to public office, particularly as I had | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
been liberated from it so spectacularly in 1997 by the | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
electorate. But I came back into politics after that event for one | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
thing, and one thing only, to free our country from the bonds of the | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
European Union something for which I have been fighting ever since I | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
joined the Ante-, Market Lead in 1960s seven. -- the Anti-, Market | :26:16. | :26:27. | |
Lead. Our main aim, certainly in the next few weeks, is to ensure that we | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
win the referendum, and that the whole of Britain, including Wales, | :26:35. | :26:37. | |
is freed from the shackles of the EU. And Ukip is the only party | :26:38. | :26:44. | |
standing in this election which had a chance of winning to take that | :26:45. | :26:50. | |
stance. So, I thank all those who have worked so hard to make this day | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
happen for me, not least my long-suffering wife... | :26:56. | :27:03. | |
So, Neil Hamilton from Ukip will be taking up his seat here in Cardiff | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
in the National Assembly for Wales. The party have said that they hope | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
to be a breath of fresh air here, that it has been too cosy in the | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
Welsh Assembly for too long. We will wait and see what impact they make. | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
But Labour remain the dominant party here in Wales, with 29 seats. | :27:20. | :27:28. | |
Waiting patiently, listening to all of that, is the Deputy First | :27:29. | :27:31. | |
Minister of Scotland, John Swinney. One final point, an important one of | :27:32. | :27:38. | |
the economy. Since 2008, the growth in the Scottish economy has been | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
disappointing, less than other parts of the United Kingdom. You have now | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
got some more powers, including the power to vary income tax and raise | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
it if you wish, and you have set your face against that? What we have | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
set out in our manifesto is the tax cuts which have been passed on by | :27:58. | :28:00. | |
George Osborne to the people of the United Kingdom. But we will not pass | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
them on in the fashion in which he has set them out. So, we propose to | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
have a different threshold for higher rate taxpayers. That is an | :28:11. | :28:15. | |
acknowledgement of the fact that we can use the tax powers differently | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
to invest in our public services in Scotland. Part of that is to support | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
and encourage development within the economy. The overwhelming majority | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
of the time the SNP has been in power over the last nine years, we | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
have had a higher employment rate in Scotland than in the rest of the | :28:33. | :28:35. | |
United Kingdom. We have had higher employment, significant growth in | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
productivity and much greater than the rest of the UK. That's all about | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
taking investment decisions to strengthen the Scottish economy. I | :28:45. | :28:49. | |
will have to cut you off, because I have been hearing that David | :28:50. | :28:52. | |
Cameron, the Prime Minister, has congratulated with Davison on doing | :28:53. | :28:55. | |
so well here in Scotland and is saying that she will, as she put it, | :28:56. | :29:04. | |
hold her feet to the fire of the SNP. We will wait to hear whether | :29:05. | :29:09. | |
your feet are burning, John! With more on the overall picture across | :29:10. | :29:18. | |
the country, here is Annita McVeigh. Let's have a look at the overall | :29:19. | :29:24. | |
picture in England. It remains largely unchanged. Labour managed | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
successfully to remain in control in 41 out of 42 councils it was | :29:30. | :29:34. | |
defending. That only defeat came in Dudley, which is now under no | :29:35. | :29:37. | |
overall control. Looking at the share of the vote, you can see that | :29:38. | :29:41. | |
it remains fairly stable for the Conservatives, but Labour have | :29:42. | :29:47. | |
suffered a four-point drop with Ukip seeing a 6-point rise in its share | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
of the vote. We can get some more analysis and reaction to all of this | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
now with our assistant political editor, Norman Smith, at | :29:56. | :29:56. | |
Westminster. Thank you. A lot of the focus has | :29:57. | :30:06. | |
been an Labour, but the Tories have not made much progress either. They | :30:07. | :30:12. | |
lost one council, Worcester, but they gain Peterborough. I am joined | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
by the Communities Secretary, Greg Clark. Why haven't you made any | :30:18. | :30:20. | |
progress since you seem to think you are facing a Labour Party in the | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
terminal disarray? We made huge progress in Scotland. I think we are | :30:25. | :30:32. | |
the principal opposition there, in numerical terms. Across the rest of | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
England, I think we have done incredibly well, when you consider | :30:37. | :30:42. | |
that, almost without exception, parties of Government lose ground to | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
opposition, midterm. Here, it looks like we might even be ahead. The | :30:48. | :30:52. | |
Labour share Robert votes is down 6%. Your share is also down 4%. -- | :30:53. | :31:01. | |
labour share of the vote is down. You expect to lose ground, but | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
across the country we have maintained our grip on councils like | :31:06. | :31:10. | |
Trafford, for example. Trafford, in the north-west of England, a | :31:11. | :31:14. | |
bellwether marginal, lotsa bleeder people piling into that, we help | :31:15. | :31:21. | |
but, we took Peter Brown. -- lots of Labour people piling into that. The | :31:22. | :31:27. | |
opposition leader has changed and they are doing even worse. Doesn't | :31:28. | :31:31. | |
did suggest that just one year after a general election, which you won | :31:32. | :31:37. | |
fairly comfortably, you are rapidly losing support, down by 4% already? | :31:38. | :31:44. | |
I disagree. If you look across the country, places that we held, we | :31:45. | :31:49. | |
continue to hold. If you look up the challenge that we have had, it has | :31:50. | :31:53. | |
fallen flat. Labour are going backwards when they should be going | :31:54. | :31:59. | |
forwards. Portsmouth, a very important place, the Labour leader | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
in Portsmouth said that the Jeremy Corbyn leadership is a disaster for | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
him. This failure to connect with ordinary working people is | :32:08. | :32:10. | |
confirming the choice that people made up the last general election, | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
that the Conservatives offer the best chance of success for ordinary | :32:15. | :32:20. | |
working people. If it was not for the result in Scotland, where you | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
are now the official opposition, we would be talking about a | :32:25. | :32:29. | |
Conservative Party in retreat. And in Scotland it is only, by and | :32:30. | :32:33. | |
large, down to Ruth Davidson, who has often been a critic of Mr | :32:34. | :32:38. | |
Cameron. The idea that a Government, six years in, would be making gains | :32:39. | :32:42. | |
and holding the seats that we have... One Michael Foot was elected | :32:43. | :32:47. | |
later of the Labour Party, in his first year he won 1000 seats. The | :32:48. | :32:51. | |
average for a new opposition leader is to gain 500 seats. Senior Labour | :32:52. | :32:57. | |
people have said they need to gain 400 seats. I think it is an | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
extraordinary achievement for a Conservative Party on the sixth year | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
of Government to do this right across the country, it has been a | :33:05. | :33:10. | |
great night. Thank you. We will have to wait and watch for the result on | :33:11. | :33:17. | |
the London mayoral election, which will shape how things are seen in | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
the south of the country, the bruising contest between Sadiq Khan | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
and Zac Goldsmith. Let's look at some other election | :33:26. | :33:31. | |
news. Labour have held onto two Westminster seats in Parliamentary | :33:32. | :33:41. | |
by-elections held yesterday. Labour was also successful in | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
Liverpool, where Joe Anderson was re-elected mayor. The outcome of the | :33:45. | :33:50. | |
mayoral contest in London, Salford and Bristol will not be known until | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
later. London is set to declare in the late afternoon or evening. | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
Voting took place yesterday for almost 40 police and crime | :33:59. | :34:01. | |
commissioners across England and Wales. One result has been declared | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
so far, Wiltshire, won by the Conservatives. The other results | :34:08. | :34:14. | |
should be known later in the day. Then page, the chief executive of | :34:15. | :34:28. | |
Ipsos MORI, joins me. -- Ben Page. Not so much polling day and is in a | :34:29. | :34:32. | |
general election, but what are your thoughts? Labour have a massive hill | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
to climb to win a general election. We have to be cautious, there is not | :34:37. | :34:40. | |
a massive link between what happens in local elections in general | :34:41. | :34:43. | |
elections, but the fact that the Conservatives have advanced in | :34:44. | :34:51. | |
Scotland, Labour have lost seat, -- seats, if this continues, if the SNP | :34:52. | :34:56. | |
Hamon in Parliamentary elections, with the boundary changes that will | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
happen in English constituencies and throughout Britain, Labour pars lead | :35:01. | :35:07. | |
in Britain is going to have to be 30 points ahead of the Conservatives to | :35:08. | :35:15. | |
win -- 13 points. That is very, very hard. The fact that Labour has not | :35:16. | :35:20. | |
lost hundreds of seats, which some had predicted, is fine, but it is | :35:21. | :35:26. | |
also the first time since 1910 of Labour has come third in Scotland, | :35:27. | :35:30. | |
this is probably the worst performance for an incoming Leader | :35:31. | :35:34. | |
of the Opposition at a set of local elections. Shadow Chancellor says | :35:35. | :35:41. | |
that Labour is laying the foundations, on a path. The other | :35:42. | :35:45. | |
context is that Labour has been competing in these local elections | :35:46. | :35:47. | |
with the Conservatives still in power after six years, the | :35:48. | :35:51. | |
conservatives are divided over Europe. Looking at it through that | :35:52. | :35:57. | |
prison, some people would say that Labour should be performing better. | :35:58. | :36:01. | |
-- Conservatives are divided over Europe. Looking at it through that | :36:02. | :36:06. | |
prism. They would hope to do better, the fact they are not suggest that | :36:07. | :36:10. | |
nothing has changed. Labour are in a difficult position at the moment. | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
This election does not give them much hope, except tonight, if the | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
polls are correct, it is very likely that Sadiq Khan will be elected | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
Mayor of London. Ringing you back this thing you | :36:23. | :36:25. | |
mentioned in your first answer, an interesting foot note, there is | :36:26. | :36:31. | |
virtually no relationship, polls have shown, between results of local | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
elections like this and what goes on to happen in general elections? | :36:36. | :36:40. | |
William Hay, in opposition to Tony Blair, won hundreds of seats and | :36:41. | :36:45. | |
failed to win a general election. -- William Hague. Tony Blair regularly | :36:46. | :36:52. | |
lost lots of local elections but won general elections handsomely. The | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
key point is that most people do not vote NBC elections. We pay a lot of | :36:57. | :37:00. | |
attention in Westminster, but in the country as a whole, most people have | :37:01. | :37:04. | |
not voted. In the London mayoral elections last time, only 38 cents | :37:05. | :37:11. | |
bothered voting. -- 38% bothered. I do not know what it will be tonight, | :37:12. | :37:15. | |
but it might be less. It was a good night for Labour in | :37:16. | :37:23. | |
Wales. They have 27 seats, they look like they will remain the biggest | :37:24. | :37:28. | |
party. There was a shock personal win for Leanne Wood, who defeated | :37:29. | :37:32. | |
Leighton Andrews in the battle for Rhondda. Ukip has won their first | :37:33. | :37:37. | |
seats in the Welsh Assembly. Our correspondent Sian Lloyd | :37:38. | :37:40. | |
is in Cardiff Bay. She can give is accurate and up to | :37:41. | :37:53. | |
date Ukip figures? -- give us? Labour remained the biggest party in | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
Wales, up to 29 votes after the regional list was declared for Mid | :37:59. | :38:03. | |
and West Wales Wales. Ukip will have representation here. They are up to | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
six members at the moment. The South Wales Central regional list has yet | :38:10. | :38:14. | |
to declare. Labour has lost a seat to Plaid Cymru, Rhondda, Leanne Wood | :38:15. | :38:21. | |
took that from Leighton Andrews. Plaid Cymru could be the second | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
biggest party in Wales at the expense of the Conservatives. The | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
Welsh Liberal Democrats, Kirsty Williams had a fantastic result for | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
herself in her constituency, increasing her majority, but it | :38:35. | :38:41. | |
looks like she will otherwise not be that happy with the results in | :38:42. | :38:47. | |
Wales. Edwina Hart has been a driving force in Welsh Labour in the | :38:48. | :38:53. | |
Welsh Assembly over the years, a former AM for Gower, you have | :38:54. | :38:58. | |
retired, your seat remains Labour. What do you think of the | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
performance, better than expected? I think everybody had worries, there | :39:04. | :39:06. | |
was uncertainty with the electorate, but in the last couple of weeks the | :39:07. | :39:12. | |
policy agenda was getting through, people respected Carwyn Jones as the | :39:13. | :39:16. | |
leader and saw him as the leader. What about the shock result in | :39:17. | :39:20. | |
Rhondda? I am not as shocked as everybody thinks we are shocked. | :39:21. | :39:24. | |
There was a realisation that something was going on, Leanne Wood | :39:25. | :39:29. | |
had a lot of national coverage in the general election and as a | :39:30. | :39:31. | |
national leader, we have to remember that we did not win the Rhondda in | :39:32. | :39:37. | |
1989. It does not look like Labour will have an overall majority, so | :39:38. | :39:43. | |
what happens now? I know you will tell me, we will have to see how the | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
dust settles and Carwyn Jones will take his time? You are absolutely | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
right. It is important to recognise that 29 is 29, you can have a | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
minority government, the Scottish National Party did once, you can | :39:59. | :40:03. | |
govern if you get agreement on key issues around legislation and | :40:04. | :40:06. | |
budget. I think the First Minister will take his time on this. There is | :40:07. | :40:10. | |
another big vote on Europe shortly, it is very important that there are | :40:11. | :40:17. | |
pro-European parties in the Assembly, we will be canvassing for | :40:18. | :40:21. | |
a Yes vote. Type you to your feet up? I think it's is important to | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
campaign for Europe if you believe in it, so I will be helping with the | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
Yes vote campaign. I will be doing something about it. Rhodri are | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
Poland, the political analyst, you have been watching the events | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
unfold. What is the big story of the night? The result for the Labour | :40:43. | :40:49. | |
Party, 29 seats. The most optimistic within the Labour Party, they would | :40:50. | :40:55. | |
not have expected that. If we had told them yesterday they would win | :40:56. | :40:58. | |
29, they would have been very happy. Kept all the constituency seat bar | :40:59. | :41:07. | |
one, Rhondda was a shock. Apart from a common except all the | :41:08. | :41:10. | |
key marginals, Cardiff North, Gallup, which was lost last year, | :41:11. | :41:16. | |
they did a very good job indeed. A bad night for the Conservatives? | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
Extremely disappointing. Last year they did so well, they won the veil | :41:21. | :41:25. | |
of clue it and Gower, they went into the election optimistic. They were | :41:26. | :41:31. | |
full of optimism at the conference. There is the steel crisis, Brexit, | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
Panama Papers, it has not gone down well with the electorate on the | :41:37. | :41:39. | |
doorstep, is a disappointing night, and there will be questions asked | :41:40. | :41:44. | |
about the future of Andrew RT Davies. Ukip have picked it seats on | :41:45. | :41:51. | |
the regional list, the element of proportional representation. They | :41:52. | :41:54. | |
have said they will be a fresh breath of air, it has been too cosy | :41:55. | :42:00. | |
the too long. Will they be a breath of fresh air, or disruptive? It will | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
change the make-up of the assembly. We don't know how many seats they | :42:05. | :42:10. | |
will get, seven is projected. They will spice things up, having Neil | :42:11. | :42:16. | |
Hamilton and Mark Reckless in the chamber. Time will tell how they | :42:17. | :42:22. | |
will behave and react. Will they react like the Conservatives in 1999 | :42:23. | :42:27. | |
who oppose the Assembly, will they be more like Peter Rogers and Rod | :42:28. | :42:33. | |
Richards? Only time will tell. Thank you both for joining us. | :42:34. | :42:40. | |
Thank you, Sian Lloyd. Let's get more on an historic win for the SNP | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
in Scotland. Gavin Esler is at Holyrood. | :42:46. | :42:50. | |
Results from regional and local elections continue to come in - | :42:51. | :42:52. | |
and it seems Labour losses have been fewer than some in | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
The Conservatives have made some gains. | :42:56. | :42:57. | |
Here at Holyrood, the SNP has claimed victory in elections | :42:58. | :43:00. | |
to the Scottish Parliament but falls short of an overall majority. | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
Labour is set to be pushed into third place by a resurgent | :43:06. | :43:07. | |
Scottish Conservative Party, while the Liberal Democrats | :43:08. | :43:09. | |
With me here is Tom Gordon, Scottish political editor at The Herald, | :43:10. | :43:13. | |
and Severin Carrell, Scotland editor for the Guardian. | :43:14. | :43:20. | |
Good to see you. What did you pick out as the big headline? Easily, the | :43:21. | :43:28. | |
SNP did win, they lost their majority overall. But the headline | :43:29. | :43:33. | |
for most of us is the Conservative revival, which seemed unthinkable | :43:34. | :43:38. | |
even a few years ago, that the Conservatives would double their | :43:39. | :43:41. | |
representation in the parliament in a single election. It has been an | :43:42. | :43:44. | |
extraordinary campaign, they had a very simple, clear and strip down | :43:45. | :43:50. | |
message, vote for us and we will resist the SNP and a push for a | :43:51. | :43:55. | |
second independence vote, which has resonated with many. I was going to | :43:56. | :44:00. | |
as Severin whether it is the Conservative Party or the Ruth | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
Davidson Party? This is one of the fascinating things about the | :44:06. | :44:08. | |
Scottish election, it has revolves heavily around personalities, Nicola | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
Sturgeon for the SNP and Ruth Davidson, it was her campaign, she | :44:14. | :44:16. | |
led from the front, her name all over the literature. She has pulled | :44:17. | :44:22. | |
off a quite remarkable turnaround for the Scottish Tories, forcing | :44:23. | :44:24. | |
Labour into third place for the first time in 100 years is quite | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
human dating for the Labour Party and an extraordinary victory for | :44:29. | :44:33. | |
Ruth Davidson. She won Edinburgh Central, a constituency seat she had | :44:34. | :44:38. | |
not really campaigned for. Where will this leave the Labour Party? | :44:39. | :44:41. | |
Some people have said it could be a wipe-out next year, in Glasgow, | :44:42. | :44:46. | |
which has been run by Labour in my lifetime. No Labour councillors, he | :44:47. | :44:51. | |
said. We don't know if they have hit rock bottom, they are at their | :44:52. | :44:58. | |
lowest at, but there are county elections next year. They have some | :44:59. | :45:05. | |
elections in bastions like Glasgow. The SNP could pick them off. | :45:06. | :45:09. | |
Labour's problems are probably not over. Is this to do with Jeremy | :45:10. | :45:13. | |
Corbyn, or is it different? Firstly, Kezia Dugdale is the | :45:14. | :45:24. | |
youngest, least experienced leader among the Scottish parties. She has | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
not yet got that relationship with the Scottish voters. The other | :45:29. | :45:31. | |
problem is that Jeremy Corbyn was not actually part of the campaign. | :45:32. | :45:36. | |
He made only a couple of appearances, in party only events. | :45:37. | :45:44. | |
On the doorstep, voters are looking at Jeremy Corbyn, and also at the | :45:45. | :45:52. | |
John man, Ken Livingstone, feud last week, which was deeply damaging for | :45:53. | :45:59. | |
especially eastward, the part of Scotland with the largest Jewish | :46:00. | :46:05. | |
community. This was a seat held by Jim Murphy as well. What do you make | :46:06. | :46:14. | |
of the way forward for the SNP? -- Eastwood. They have experience here. | :46:15. | :46:26. | |
From 2007 to 2011, they had a majority of just a single seat and | :46:27. | :46:30. | |
they managed to work very well. I am quite certain they will go back to | :46:31. | :46:33. | |
another minority government. They will work issue by issue with the | :46:34. | :46:36. | |
other parties. The interesting things will be on the budget, | :46:37. | :46:41. | |
because the SNP are closely aligned with the Conservatives in wanting | :46:42. | :46:43. | |
very, very Limited tax changes. The other parties - the Liberal | :46:44. | :46:48. | |
Democrats, Labour and the Greens - all want higher taxes and will push | :46:49. | :46:55. | |
for that. And on fracking, which is a massive issue in Scotland, huge | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
swathes of the central belt are ripe for fracking, and the Conservatives | :47:01. | :47:07. | |
oppose it. We will have to see what the SNP do, if they do a deal there. | :47:08. | :47:12. | |
In terms of the big issue of independence, where is that now? | :47:13. | :47:19. | |
Kezia Dugdale said, we have moved on from that, but it seems that maybe | :47:20. | :47:25. | |
the voters have not only I actually think this result is a setback for | :47:26. | :47:28. | |
the independence movement. If you add together the Scottish National | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
Party and the Greens, you have 69 pro-independence SNP is, nominally. | :47:36. | :47:38. | |
But neither party put a demand for independence or for a referendum in | :47:39. | :47:43. | |
their manifesto this time around. I think Nicola Sturgeon will look at | :47:44. | :47:48. | |
these results and think, this is actually a bit of a setback. I have | :47:49. | :47:52. | |
not matched Alex Salmond's remarkable result from 2011. And I | :47:53. | :47:57. | |
think she will be much more focused on domestic issues like the new tax | :47:58. | :48:02. | |
powers, the new welfare powers, and she will have to start building on a | :48:03. | :48:06. | |
much more long-term agenda. As you well know, two months away from | :48:07. | :48:11. | |
whether we exit the European Union or not, and Scotland again has a | :48:12. | :48:17. | |
different flavour, it would appear? Yes, like London, Scotland seems | :48:18. | :48:19. | |
overwhelmingly in favour of remaining in the EU. Even this issue | :48:20. | :48:26. | |
is viewed through the independence prism in Scotland. If there is a | :48:27. | :48:30. | |
mismatch in results, Scotland voting to stay in, the rest of the UK | :48:31. | :48:35. | |
voting to leave the EU, would that trigger a second independence | :48:36. | :48:38. | |
referendum? I think that has become a less likely prospect because of | :48:39. | :48:44. | |
what has been a kind of a setback. Nicola Sturgeon will wonder if she | :48:45. | :48:48. | |
has actually fuelled a pro-independence backlash, which the | :48:49. | :48:53. | |
Conservatives have managed to capitalise on? She spoke about | :48:54. | :48:57. | |
independence of a lot during the campaign, especially during the last | :48:58. | :49:01. | |
few days. With Davidson comes along and says, we will resist any move to | :49:02. | :49:05. | |
independence. And she has done very well on the back of that. We can get | :49:06. | :49:15. | |
the big picture from Westminster now, with Norman Smith. Rock star. | :49:16. | :49:20. | |
We are now going through some of the details to give us a bit more sense | :49:21. | :49:24. | |
of what has happened. Jerry Corbyn has been keen to stress that by and | :49:25. | :49:28. | |
large, they have held their ground and managed to hold onto councils | :49:29. | :49:32. | |
which might have been vulnerable, in the south and the Midlands, places | :49:33. | :49:36. | |
like Southampton, Redditch, Crawley, Cannock Chase. But when you get into | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
some of the detail, in those critical middle England consoles, | :49:42. | :49:46. | |
places like Bury, Tamworth and Nuneaton, Labour are still losing | :49:47. | :49:52. | |
councillors. Interestingly, Nuneaton, which was regarded as one | :49:53. | :49:58. | |
of the bellwether seats in the last election, again, Labour are still | :49:59. | :50:04. | |
losing votes. In 11% swing from Labour to the Conservatives. Now, | :50:05. | :50:08. | |
what Mr Corbyn's critics are saying is that this underlines the extent | :50:09. | :50:11. | |
to which the party is still failing to reach out and engage with | :50:12. | :50:19. | |
centrist voters. The line from Jeremy Corbyn's team is, it is still | :50:20. | :50:25. | |
early days, give your man time. But I sense among his critics there is a | :50:26. | :50:28. | |
view that nothing will change, no matter how much time Mr Corbyn is | :50:29. | :50:33. | |
given. So in a funny sort of way, the uneasy stand-off within the | :50:34. | :50:38. | |
Labour Party continues, despite last night's results, with Mr Corbyn's | :50:39. | :50:44. | |
team saying in effect, we are gradually establishing ourselves, | :50:45. | :50:48. | |
give us time, and his critics saying, no, this confirms everything | :50:49. | :50:51. | |
we have said about you. As for the other parties, the Conservatives I | :50:52. | :50:56. | |
have no doubt will draw some satisfaction that despite the euro | :50:57. | :51:01. | |
war howling around, they have by and large managed to cling on. They have | :51:02. | :51:05. | |
lost one council, Worcester, and kicked up another one, Peterborough. | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
The Liberal Democrats will draw some satisfaction I would think from the | :51:11. | :51:13. | |
sense that they have not lost a whole load of seats, which they have | :51:14. | :51:18. | |
managed to do spectacularly well in recent elections. And Ukip - well, | :51:19. | :51:23. | |
frustration in the sense that they believe they are hoovering up | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
disgruntled Labour votes, but not in sufficient quantity to win Labour | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
seats, because the first-past-the-post system still | :51:32. | :51:36. | |
seems to be keeping a lid on them, albeit they are looking to get | :51:37. | :51:39. | |
around I think about 40 new councils. | :51:40. | :51:45. | |
Norman Smith, thank you very much. One of the big stories in Scotland | :51:46. | :51:53. | |
over the past few years has been that younger voters can vote. It | :51:54. | :51:55. | |
happened with the Scottish referendum campaign. It did not | :51:56. | :52:00. | |
happen in the general election, which has different rules, but it | :52:01. | :52:04. | |
did happen in this campaign. I am now joined by three younger voters. | :52:05. | :52:10. | |
All part of the BBC's Generation 2016. Megan, 18, this was your first | :52:11. | :52:22. | |
vote? Yes. What did you vote? I voted for Scottish Labour. What was | :52:23. | :52:27. | |
your rationale? My biggest issue was education, and they have promised to | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
put in more money to education. That was the deciding factor for me. Did | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
you vote with enthusiasm in this election? It is certainly true that | :52:37. | :52:40. | |
over the past couple of years, since the independence referendum, people | :52:41. | :52:44. | |
of your age have thought to themselves, politics is important? | :52:45. | :52:50. | |
Yes, definitely. The referendum got me to take a bigger interest in | :52:51. | :52:54. | |
politics, and I have seen it with my friends as well. I have been looking | :52:55. | :52:58. | |
into different party policies and manifestos. What about you? I | :52:59. | :53:08. | |
decided to vote Liberal Democrat. Similarly to Megan, it was because | :53:09. | :53:11. | |
of their policies on education and also on the NHS and mental health. | :53:12. | :53:18. | |
For a first-time voter, it was a hard decision and I did not make it | :53:19. | :53:22. | |
until yesterday's. Was it a big moment for you, putting those | :53:23. | :53:27. | |
crosses in the boxes? Yes, I have always really loved politics. I have | :53:28. | :53:31. | |
been waiting for the day when I could vote since I was probably | :53:32. | :53:37. | |
five! You're saying that you're a teenage veteran of politics already! | :53:38. | :53:41. | |
You did not mention independence - was that not something you thought | :53:42. | :53:45. | |
about or was it in the back of your mind? For me, it is something which | :53:46. | :53:50. | |
has been discussed a lot and I think it is not really something that we | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
need to be thinking about in the very near future. There is more | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
important issues, in my opinion. Stuart Cummings you've voted SNP - | :53:59. | :54:04. | |
why did you choose to vote for them? After the 2011 election, I was not | :54:05. | :54:13. | |
able to vote in that... I thought it was best to see those policies to | :54:14. | :54:18. | |
fruition. But were you attracted by their policies on some of the issues | :54:19. | :54:24. | |
which Megan was talking about, like education, or is independence the | :54:25. | :54:28. | |
big issue for you? It was mainly education and social policies. | :54:29. | :54:33. | |
Independence was a factor the last time I voted, in the general | :54:34. | :54:38. | |
election. I realised now that it is perhaps best to leave that | :54:39. | :54:41. | |
particular subject alone for a while, because there are other | :54:42. | :54:44. | |
things which need doing first. And some thoughts about your age group - | :54:45. | :54:49. | |
how engaged other people? I know there is a view, or a prejudice, you | :54:50. | :54:54. | |
might think, that teenagers do not care, are not interested in | :54:55. | :54:58. | |
politics. What about your friends and yourselves? I disagree. I think | :54:59. | :55:04. | |
people our age are really interested. Maybe it was the | :55:05. | :55:08. | |
referendum which did it, but I have found that my friends at home and at | :55:09. | :55:13. | |
university, even the ones who are not from Scotland, have really taken | :55:14. | :55:15. | |
an interest in different party policies. I was struck listening to | :55:16. | :55:23. | |
you, you actually studied the policies. I know a lot of people | :55:24. | :55:28. | |
three times your age who do not study policies. Did you really give | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
it that much attention? Yes, because I did not want to just waste my vote | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
which I had only just got. I really wanted to look into what everybody | :55:37. | :55:41. | |
was saying. Do any of you have an idea that you would like to pursue | :55:42. | :55:45. | |
some kind of public office or run for election? I would like to add | :55:46. | :55:50. | |
some point. My plan is to go into teaching for a while and then after | :55:51. | :55:54. | |
that hopefully go into politics. I'm not sure whether it will be at | :55:55. | :55:58. | |
Scottish level or at a national level, but I would like to go into | :55:59. | :56:03. | |
it. What about the others? I think I would possibly not like to be an MP | :56:04. | :56:08. | |
because it seems quite brutal. I would love to be a correspondent and | :56:09. | :56:13. | |
get to challenge the MPs and politicians, whilst being impartial. | :56:14. | :56:17. | |
It has been a pleasure talking to all of you. The weather is rather | :56:18. | :56:21. | |
glorious here in Edinburgh. We will have all the election headlines | :56:22. | :56:25. | |
coming up. First a look at the weather across the nation, with John | :56:26. | :56:27. | |
Hammond. Most of us will have a fantastic | :56:28. | :56:38. | |
weekend but there will be some exceptions. For a few of us it will | :56:39. | :56:43. | |
stay cloudy and dull. And for a very few of us, there will be some | :56:44. | :56:52. | |
thunderstorms, so watch this space. Most of this cloud is very high and | :56:53. | :56:55. | |
it will not stop the sun getting through. Bright sunshine across more | :56:56. | :57:01. | |
southern parts of the UK. It is here where we will have the highest | :57:02. | :57:07. | |
temperatures. It reached 22 degrees yesterday's, and I fancy some places | :57:08. | :57:11. | |
could hit 24 to the west of London this afternoon. A little bit of | :57:12. | :57:26. | |
cooler near the coasts. The North Sea coasts will be cooler. All eyes | :57:27. | :57:37. | |
to the south over the next day or so. This developing low pressure | :57:38. | :57:40. | |
will start throwing some cloud and showers up towards us, initially | :57:41. | :57:43. | |
across the far south-west of England. Then moving across the | :57:44. | :57:51. | |
Irish sea. Not as chilly as some places had last night. Then we could | :57:52. | :58:03. | |
see some really intense thunderstorms developing across the | :58:04. | :58:06. | |
heart of England and Wales. Very hit and miss, but if you catch one, you | :58:07. | :58:10. | |
will know all about it. Warmer across the southern half of the UK, | :58:11. | :58:15. | |
every bit as warm as today. Northern half of the UK, cooler. There will | :58:16. | :58:19. | |
be a notable easterly breeze coming off the North Sea. Here, it could | :58:20. | :58:31. | |
stay quite grey and murky for much of the afternoon. But that will be | :58:32. | :58:37. | |
the exception, most of us will have plenty of fine weather. Sunday, | :58:38. | :58:44. | |
again, fine and dry for most. But we could again have some isolated but | :58:45. | :58:47. | |
intense than the storms developing. Very difficult to nail down a | :58:48. | :58:55. | |
position. Possibly up to 26 degrees across the London area. Into the | :58:56. | :58:59. | |
early part of next week, it starts to turn more unsettled, with some | :59:00. | :59:01. | |
rain. I'm Gavin Esler, and | :59:02. | :00:02. | |
welcome to Holyrood. Here in Scotland with all | :00:03. | :00:05. | |
the results in, Labour have been beaten into third place as the SNP | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
claim a historic third victory in the Scottish | :00:09. | :00:11. | |
Parliament elections. Nicola Sturgeon's party receives | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
nearly half the vote - but falls two seats short | :00:16. | :00:17. | |
of an overall majority. We are seeing an enormous vote of | :00:18. | :00:38. | |
confidence in the SNP's record in government, and an enormous boat of | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
trust in our ability to lead the country forward. | :00:41. | :00:41. | |
Ruth Davidson's Scottish Conservatives overtake Labour | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
for the first time to become the main opposition. | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
In England, Labour fends off challengers to retain control of an | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
above key councils. Jeremy Corbyn's party have retained | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
key councils in England and won two But some figures say here's failing | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
to win the centre ground. -- he is. Hello, I'm Sian Lloyd | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
at Cardiff Bay. Labour remain the biggest party | :01:03. | :01:04. | |
in Wales, though their Ukip win their first seats | :01:05. | :01:06. | |
in the Welsh Assembly, And there's a stunning personal | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
victory for the leader of Plaid We'll bring you all of the latest | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
reaction and results Good morning and welcome | :01:14. | :01:19. | |
to Election 2016. I am at the Scottish Parliament in | :01:20. | :01:47. | |
Holyrood. A clear picture has emerged of how | :01:48. | :01:50. | |
the parties have fared in yesterday's local | :01:51. | :01:52. | |
and regional elections - though results will continue | :01:53. | :01:54. | |
to come in through the day. The Tories have made gains, | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
and Labour has suffered some big losses - including in Scotland, | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
where they're now the third party. We're live at Holyrood, | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
the home of the Scottish Parliament. The Scottish National Party has won | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
a third term but loses So here in Scotland the SNP remain | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
the largest party with 63 MSPs. The Conservatives are now the second | :02:10. | :02:18. | |
largest party in Holyrood, picking up an extra 16 seats, | :02:19. | :02:21. | |
which means that they now have more representation in | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
the Scottish Parliament than Labour. Overall it was a bad night for | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
Labour in Scotland, losing 13 MSPs. So far, with 80 authorities | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
declared, Labour have fared better in the English local elections, | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
managing to hold on to all but one of the 42 councils it was defending, | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
despite losing dozens of seats. In Wales, Labour remains the largest | :02:40. | :02:45. | |
party despite a drop in its share of the vote, | :02:46. | :02:49. | |
which cost it one seat at the expense of the Welsh | :02:50. | :02:51. | |
nationalist party, Plaid Cymru. Ukip had a very good night in Wales, | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
securing six new members to the Welsh Assembly in return | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
for 14% of the vote. Our political correspondent | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
Carole Walker has been -- Ian Watson has been following the | :03:04. | :03:10. | |
story so far. The SNP felt shorter than overall | :03:11. | :03:27. | |
majority. We are seeing a huge vote of confidence in the SNP peers | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
record in government and enormous trust in our ability to lead the | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
country forward. Scratch beneath the surface, and the | :03:36. | :03:39. | |
SNP victory was not the only story. Conservative leader with Davidson | :03:40. | :03:44. | |
has ambitions to lead the opposition in Scotland, replacing Labour, and | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
is coming close to fulfilling them. A crumb of comfort for the Billy | :03:49. | :03:52. | |
goat Lib Dems, snatching a couple of seats from the Scottish | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
Nationalists. Little to cheer about four Labour, | :03:57. | :04:00. | |
the SNP retained its surge at this party's expense. Johann Lamont was | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
one of the political victims. Kez Dugdale campaigned on a platform | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
Jeremy Corbyn would approve of, better public services paid for by | :04:13. | :04:16. | |
higher taxes. The Labour leader himself is under | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
pressure, many of his own MPs lined up to criticise him, but the party's | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
performance was not as bad as expected. Labour retain two safe | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
Parliamentary seats, one in England, one in Wales. In the council | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
elections they did not just hold on to the northern heartlands but | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
defied expectations in the south coast, retaining control in | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
Southampton and Hastings. With fewer Labour councillors | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
overall, some MPs say the results are not good enough. We should have | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
been making games, there are lots of brilliant local Labour council | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
candidates who will be waking up, not having a seat that they should | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
have had. These elections will be challenging the David Cameron, as | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
members of his Cabinet clash regularly over Europe. | :05:04. | :05:10. | |
Do you have almost become conditioned, one year into a | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
government, to know you will have a dreadful night, but sitting here and | :05:15. | :05:18. | |
saying they are not as disastrous as they were, this is very different | :05:19. | :05:23. | |
from most programmes that I can remember, one year into a | :05:24. | :05:25. | |
government, because that is when the opposition normally makes their big | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
day. Labour will be the biggest party in Wales, but Ukip will | :05:31. | :05:33. | |
celebrate their first ever Welsh Assembly seats. It has been a big | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
night, we are making breakthroughs into places like Wales, we have | :05:39. | :05:42. | |
never had a leg and representation before. We are winning council seats | :05:43. | :05:45. | |
in England and coming second almost everywhere. -- we have never had | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
elected representation before. Voters will have to wait until the | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
weekend to get the full picture in Northern Ireland. | :05:55. | :05:56. | |
Our assistant political editor Norman Smith | :05:57. | :05:57. | |
Is it possible to look at these rather varied results and draw | :05:58. | :06:10. | |
anyone big picture conclusion? The one big picture that I draw is that | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
these were the standstill elections. Pretty much for every party, none of | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
them went anywhere and nothing much at all changed south of the border. | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
A different story in Scotland, but south of the border it is a | :06:24. | :06:28. | |
standstill election, really. That tells us a story. From the Labour | :06:29. | :06:32. | |
side, it is possibly the worst conceivable result the Mr Corbyn | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
Haas critics, because it is not sufficiently disastrous to provide | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
them with a trigger to mount a challenge against Mr Corbyn, but it | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
is bad enough to confirm their worst fears that they have no chance of | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
winning a general election under him. They find themselves in a limbo | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
land, unable to move against him but at the same time terrified that he | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
is leading them to catastrophe. Mr Corbyn's people have drawn a huge | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
sigh of relief, there has not been the massive loss of seats and | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
councils projected. He might lose about 25 or so, that is bad in | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
historic terms because at this time in the Parliament, one year after an | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
election with a Tory party ripping itself to shreds over Europe and | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
after years and years of austerity, he ought to be clawing away at them, | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
pulling seats back. That is not happening. As for the Tories, I | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
suspect they, too, like Mr Corbyn are thinking, view, because in the | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
wake of a budget which has seen wrangling over academies and | :07:38. | :07:44. | |
disability benefits, spats over steel industry, and less grief on | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
the Tory side, they have managed to hold their ground. They lost | :07:50. | :07:54. | |
Worcester council, they picked up another in Peterborough. In Scotland | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
they have a spectacular advance. The extent to which that is down to the | :07:59. | :08:01. | |
personality of Ruth Davidson and the way she has reshaped the sections of | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
the Tory party in Scotland is open to debate. The Lib Dems, my take is | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
that maybe they have finally reached rock bottom. They look as if they | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
will gain a few councils after years of haemorrhaging hundreds. Same old | :08:16. | :08:23. | |
story in Ukip, piling up votes in traditional Labour seats but unable | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
to win because of the first past the post system, hugely frustrating for | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
them, meaning that at the end of the day they might end up with 40 or so | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
councillors had not the significant breakthrough they might have hoped | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
for. You have a very mixed picture | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
throughout the country, Ukip doing very well in Wales, coming nowhere | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
in Scotland. We still don't know about the London mayoral election, | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
but London almost seems to be its own country. Different parts of the | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
country are devolved, politically, at least in their intentions, | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
perhaps, if not in the way that politics is run? I think that is | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
very true. That is another reason why Mr Corbyn Haas critics, I would | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
suggest, are stymied. Catastrophic though the result in Scotland may | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
be, even the Mr Corbyn said it would be a priority for him, he would go | :09:16. | :09:18. | |
up there once a month and the hope was that are more left-leaning | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
Labour leader would reconnect the party in Scotland, catastrophic | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
though the result is, he can kind of say, hang on a second, there is an | :09:28. | :09:32. | |
historic generational collapse in the Labour vote which happened way | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
before me, it will take years to put right. Don't delay that at my | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
doorstep. Similarly, in London, London is almost a country in its | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
own right, politically, with its own mood and temperature. This took all | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
that has drawn a lot of support from London, but interestingly, Sadiq | :09:51. | :09:54. | |
Khan has gone out of his way to say, hey, the ad you are not travelling | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
in the same direction. He has chosen to distance himself from Mr Corbyn | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
-- me and you are not travelling in the same direction. Mr Corbyn is | :10:04. | :10:08. | |
insulated from these results, to some extent, because other factors | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
could explain what is going on in parts of the country. For that | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
reason, is respect he will carry on. The big question is whether his | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
critics settled down and accept that they will just have to lump this, or | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
whether they will regroup and prepare to come back, maybe after | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
European referendum, I doubt it, or maybe after the local elections next | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
year. Very interesting, Norman, thank you | :10:34. | :10:35. | |
for joining us. In the last few minutes the last | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
results have been declared in the Scottish parliamentary | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
election - and the SNP have And it was a bruising night | :10:42. | :10:43. | |
for Labour in Scotland, in the first big test of public | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
opinion since Jeremy Labour's now third in Scotland, | :10:48. | :10:49. | |
and Tory gains mean they're now Our Scotland correspondent | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
Lorna Gordon has more. If she was feeling nervous, | :10:54. | :10:55. | |
she didn't show it. Nicola Sturgeon leading her party | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
into the Holyrood elections Her personal appeal at the heart | :10:58. | :11:00. | |
of the SNP campaign. To seek and to win a mandate | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
as the First Minister of our country is a special and very | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
precious thing. I pledge that over these next five | :11:10. | :11:16. | |
years I will govern in the interests Another party whose push for votes | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
was based around their leader, Ruth Davidson positioning her party | :11:21. | :11:27. | |
as the defenders of the union. Now I'm under no illusions that | :11:28. | :11:41. | |
everyone in that seat that voted for me is a true blue, | :11:42. | :11:43. | |
dyed in the wool Tory. And neither are they in places | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
up and down Scotland. They are people who want us to do | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
a very specific job, and it's a job that me and my team | :11:51. | :11:52. | |
of new MSPs coming in take exceptionally seriously, | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
and that is to hold the Scottish National | :11:57. | :11:58. | |
Party to account. For Labour it was deja vu as one | :11:59. | :11:59. | |
by one their seats fell. They were putting our neighbour | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
brave face, but disappointment behind the smiles. | :12:06. | :12:07. | |
Our defeat is painful, but it is not the end, | :12:08. | :12:09. | |
we will continue to argue for our values and principles. | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
There is work to renew the party so it is fit to serve the country. | :12:15. | :12:25. | |
For the Liberal Democrats, their message that they would punch above | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
their weight punched through, holding onto their seats in the | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
Northern Isles, expanding their reach on the mainland. The SNP won | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
fewer seats than the polls predicted, they will have to form a | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
minority Government or enter coalition. But it has still been a | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
successful night for the Nationalists, who will be in power | :12:46. | :12:47. | |
for the third time in Scotland. I am joined by our Scotland | :12:48. | :12:59. | |
correspondent, Kevin keen. The SNP did not get an overall majority, but | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
a win is a win? It is an even bigger win than the one they had five years | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
ago in terms of vote, they have top 1 million mark for the first time | :13:10. | :13:13. | |
for any party at Holyrood devolution began. Unfortunately for them, they | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
have fallen victim to a system which compensates for the fact that they | :13:20. | :13:23. | |
have all these additional constituency MSPs and takes away | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
some of the list once, overall it means they have slightly fewer. It | :13:28. | :13:32. | |
is only two. They have done a minority administration before, and | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
very successfully, I can see no reason why they would not be able to | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
do again this time, ridiculously because the Green Party have six | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
members and they will probably able to do deals with them or the Liberal | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
Democrats, some of the other parties, fairly successfully. For | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
many, the Conservative revival in Scotland is one of the big stories, | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
a few years ago they were almost the dead parrot sketch from Monty | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
Python, they were deceased, they had ceased to be. Ruth Davidson has made | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
a remarkable turnaround? She is trying to set the party north of the | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
border separate from the party in the rest of the UK, but she has done | :14:10. | :14:14. | |
that by her own personality, in many respects. Rather unexpectedly, she | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
has become the constituency MP for this place, and for the Palace of | :14:19. | :14:23. | |
Holyrood House, the Queen's official residence. She has taken a constant | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
C -- they had taken a constituency where Balmoral is, as well. They | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
were pretty much going for the list vote stop the big losers have been | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
the Labour Party, not entirely unexpectedly. It is unlikely that | :14:39. | :14:42. | |
there will be any change of leadership, we are on four leaders | :14:43. | :14:46. | |
in five years. When Kezia Dugdale was elected, certainly within the | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
party at was for a long-term period, generally people around her accepted | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
that they needed some kind of stability. She hinted this morning | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
that the elephant in the room was still independence. She very much | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
set the tone of the election by ringing up the issue of tax very | :15:04. | :15:08. | |
early on. In terms of what she and other politicians talked about, she | :15:09. | :15:12. | |
was in there first, but it turned out that was not what the voters | :15:13. | :15:16. | |
were thinking about. They are still thinking about independence, I think | :15:17. | :15:17. | |
she will address that now. In the English local | :15:18. | :15:26. | |
authority elections, the overall picture with 80 councils | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
declared remains largely unchanged. Labour managed to successfully | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
remain in control of 41 of the 42 councils it was defending - | :15:37. | :15:39. | |
that only defeat coming in Dudley, which is now under | :15:40. | :15:41. | |
no overall control. Looking at the share | :15:42. | :15:46. | |
of the votes in England compared with four years ago, | :15:47. | :15:49. | |
you can see it remains fairly stable for the Conservatives, | :15:50. | :15:53. | |
but Labour have suffered a four-point drop, with Ukip | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
seeing a six-point rise Our assistant political editor | :15:57. | :15:59. | |
Norman Smith is at Westminster. I suppose a key question would be | :16:00. | :16:24. | |
whether Labour under Jeremy Corbyn has done enough to keep his critics | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
at bay? I think it is fair to say that his critics would have been | :16:29. | :16:31. | |
hoping that these results would provide them with some ammunition to | :16:32. | :16:35. | |
move against him, but but they have not had that ammunition. There has | :16:36. | :16:38. | |
been no complete and utter collapse in the Labour vote. These critics | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
still remain convinced that Mr Corbyn cannot win, but they do not | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
have the bullets to fire against him. Let's talk about that now with | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
the Labour shadow cabinet member Diane Abbott. If you had to use one | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
word to characterise the Labour results last night, what would that | :16:56. | :17:00. | |
be? Steady progress. If you compare it to last year's general election, | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
we have increased our share of the vote. And crucially we have held | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
onto seats in the south, like Crawley and Southampton. People have | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
been arguing we need to move right, but under he Jeremy, we have done | :17:13. | :17:21. | |
that. Can I put it to you that holding onto seats, and losing | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
councillors, is not progress? Our share of the vote indicates | :17:26. | :17:28. | |
progress. This is the beginning of something, it is not the end of | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
everything. Remember, we had a catastrophic result last year, | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
particularly in Scotland. And in Scotland it was a long drawn-out | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
process of collapse, and it will be a long process of rebuild, and no | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
other leader could have any better in Scotland. Some of Mr Corbyn's | :17:45. | :17:49. | |
critics are saying that every Labour leader, in their first set of | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
elections, wins seats, even Michael Foot, in the 1980s, won nearly 1000 | :17:55. | :17:59. | |
seats. Jeremy Corbyn is losing seats! That's disingenuous. We have | :18:00. | :18:07. | |
a much different electorate than we had at that time. It is much more | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
fragmented. We have got Ukip, we have got the nationalist parties. | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
You are not comparing like with like to compare local elections under | :18:16. | :18:25. | |
Jeremy to low collection -- to local elections under Michael Foot. In | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
Nuneaton, you have had a swing against Labour of 11% to the | :18:29. | :18:33. | |
Conservatives - how do you explain that? Jeremy has had unprecedented | :18:34. | :18:41. | |
complaints and attacks not least from members of his own party! I | :18:42. | :18:54. | |
think we have done well overall to increase our share of the vote. And | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
as I said, in the south, we have held steady. We are on track to win | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
in 2020. Your colleague Clive Lewis was saying earlier this morning that | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
was to Corbin's critics secured shut up or get out, do you agree? He puts | :19:09. | :19:15. | |
his own thoughts in his own way. What I would like is for that small | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
group of MPs who have been so over Severus in attacking Jeremy finally | :19:22. | :19:23. | |
to accept the result of last year's leadership election and get behind | :19:24. | :19:31. | |
the leader of the party. Obviously, Scotland, a disastrous result for | :19:32. | :19:37. | |
Labour, but the significance is much greater than Scotland, because | :19:38. | :19:39. | |
unless you can claw back Labour seats in Scotland, you have no | :19:40. | :19:44. | |
prospect of winning a general election. And yet all the signs are | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
that you're going backwards in Scotland? You know, no-one has said | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
that under an alternative leader, it would be any different in Scotland. | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
It took a long time to get to that collapse last year, and we have to | :20:00. | :20:02. | |
be patient in rebuilding the position in Scotland. Kezia Dugdale | :20:03. | :20:07. | |
has done a very good job and she must be left to shape the Scottish | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
party in her own way. The point I'm making is that in Scotland you're | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
going backwards, in England, in terms of councillors, you're going | :20:16. | :20:19. | |
backwards - how can you possibly say this is progress towards an election | :20:20. | :20:29. | |
victory? You cannot read everything from individual council ward | :20:30. | :20:31. | |
results. If you look at our overall share of the vote since last year, | :20:32. | :20:35. | |
you will see that our share of the vote is going up, and I think that's | :20:36. | :20:39. | |
the most important thing. What does Jeremy Corbyn need to do to win back | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
votes? To do what he has been doing, to frame the debate. On benefits, we | :20:45. | :20:52. | |
were abstaining on benefit cuts, Jeremy took the battle on welfare | :20:53. | :20:59. | |
and benefits to the Tories, won the argument and defeated them in | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
Parliament. And we need to do more of that. Doesn't that shore up your | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
traditional vote and failed to in gauge with people of middle England? | :21:07. | :21:14. | |
Tamworth, you lost four seats, Bury, you lost four seats, Dudley, you | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
lost the council. It is fine for shoring up your heartland but it | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
does not move you forward? Middle England cares as much about | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
inequality, as much about the NHS, as much about unfairness, as | :21:27. | :21:33. | |
anywhere else. Jeremy's message is particularly strong on unfairness | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
and the NHS. That's right. But is it not the danger that he presents the | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
party as a party of the aggrieved rather than as a party of | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
aspiration? If people thought that we were just a party of the | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
aggrieved, we would not have held on in Crawley, in Southampton, in those | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
sorts of seats in the South. We are on track. Briefly, London, we will | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
get the result in the middle of the afternoon, I think - what is your | :21:59. | :22:02. | |
take on the way that campaign has been fought? The Conservatives have | :22:03. | :22:10. | |
fought the most appallingly anti-Muslim campaign that I have | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
seen at a national level. They should be ashamed. What is the | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
message to young Muslims thinking about getting involved in mainstream | :22:21. | :22:25. | |
politics? The message is that if you do not happen to be a merchant | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
banker, you can expect to be abused and attacked, as Sadiq Khan was. It | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
has been a shameful and terrible campaign. Some talk we might get | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
that London result a bit earlier than we thought. But of course, that | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
will be another critical result in shaping the way these elections are | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
seen overall, after what has been a very, very bruising contest between | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
Sadiq Khan and Zac Goldsmith. Thank you very much for that. | :22:53. | :23:00. | |
In Wales, it was a good night for Labour, who remain on course | :23:01. | :23:03. | |
to be the largest party in the Welsh Assembly, | :23:04. | :23:05. | |
Over to Sian Lloyd. The sun is coming out here in Cardiff babies | :23:06. | :23:16. | |
eat Labour remains the biggest party here in Wales. We are still waiting | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
for the poll from south Wales central, but that is all that is | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
outstanding. Labour's share of the vote overall did go down, and they | :23:27. | :23:30. | |
did lose a seat to Plaid Cymru. Ukip are happy here in Wales this | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
morning, we're hearing, as they have won seats for the first time, again, | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
on the regional list, through proportional representation. So, | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
Labour are the biggest party, Plaid Cymru look to be in second place at | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
the expense of the Welsh Conservatives, and it has not been a | :23:50. | :23:51. | |
good night for the Liberal Democrats. Lets talk to our Wales | :23:52. | :23:58. | |
correspondent Thomas Morgan now. You have been following the campaign | :23:59. | :24:01. | |
very closely. Let's talk about Labour first. We heard from Edwina | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
Hart, the former minister, earlier on the programme, that they feel | :24:08. | :24:10. | |
they have done very well, even though their share of the vote has | :24:11. | :24:14. | |
gone down? I think if you had asked anybody from the Labour Party over | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
the last few weeks, they would have been hoping for about 26 seats. They | :24:19. | :24:24. | |
far surpassed that, with 29 seats, only one less than they got in the | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
last election, which means they will probably be able to go ahead and | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
follow one as they were, almost, with the minority party government | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
here. They will obviously have to pass some laws with the other | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
parties, but they will be very happy. Arguably that is the biggest | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
story of the night, that they have been able to hold onto some of those | :24:44. | :24:46. | |
key marginal areas, places like the Gower, the north of Cardiff, places | :24:47. | :24:52. | |
where in the general election last year, they lost out to the Tories, | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
but they have been able to secure them for the Welsh Assembly. They | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
will be very happy with today's outcome. Ukip's performance, | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
eye-catching. Six seats so far on the regional lists. Mark Reckless | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
and Neil Hamilton will be taking up seats in the building behind us? | :25:10. | :25:14. | |
Yes-no doubt that will make it a very lively Assembly when they come | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
back in the next few. I think it is interesting that we knew that Ukip | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
would be getting some of the regional seats, those Paul Jewell | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
representation seats. Nigel Farage was expecting five, and they have | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
already got six. -- proportional representation seats. They might | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
even get seven, which would be quite a large number for the first time | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
they have ever got seats in Wales. As I say it will make for | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
interesting debates here in Cardiff. Counting has begun meanwhile in | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
Northern Ireland, although we do not expect to have the outcome of that | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
for quite some time. We can go over now to Chris Buckler, in Belfast. | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
Yes, counting has only begun in the last hour or so here at the Titanic | :26:00. | :26:04. | |
Exhibition Centre. They are trying to make sense of the vote behind me, | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
as the count begins. However, it is a very complicated voting system in | :26:11. | :26:12. | |
Northern Ireland. As a result we will not know the full picture of | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
what the new Assembly looks like until tomorrow, at the earliest. | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
However, we will start to get people elected this afternoon. Nigel Jones | :26:21. | :26:26. | |
is with me, the deputy leader of the DUP. You are not a candidate in this | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
election because you are an MP, but at the same time you have been | :26:30. | :26:33. | |
watching closely - what have been the key factors and strategies? And | :26:34. | :26:39. | |
what about your leader, Arlene Foster, a leader for only a matter | :26:40. | :26:42. | |
of months - how do you think she did? I think she has performed | :26:43. | :26:48. | |
extremely well in this election. It is a big test going to your first | :26:49. | :26:51. | |
Assembly election only having been leader for five months. But she is | :26:52. | :26:57. | |
enormously peeler throughout the entire community, which came across | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
very strongly from the time she first became First Minister. She and | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
our team have set out a 5-point plan for Northern Ireland to take the | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
country forward. , who in Northern Ireland want to cease table | :27:09. | :27:10. | |
government with Northern Ireland actually moving forward. Of course | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
it is not just about you see Northern Ireland has differences do | :27:17. | :27:19. | |
not government from everywhere else. Basically everybody has to work | :27:20. | :27:23. | |
together. The biggest parties are all entitled to be in this our | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
sharing coalition. In reality, how difficult is it going to be two, | :27:29. | :27:31. | |
with a programme of government, because you have only got two weeks | :27:32. | :27:39. | |
to do that? In Northern Ireland, it is a mandatory system, we HAVE to | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
have a coalition. So there will be negotiations. But we're pretty | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
confident that we will be able to form an executive with an agreed | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
programme for government. I think the issues which dominated the | :27:52. | :27:54. | |
election campaign for us were things like education, health, | :27:55. | :27:58. | |
infrastructure, trying to keep household bills as low as possible. | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
So I think across all the parties, there is a common interest. I hope | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
that everybody will see Northern Ireland moving forward, embedding | :28:08. | :28:11. | |
the peace process. That is extremely important. It is only a matter of | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
months since Stormont looked to be in serious trouble, the future of | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
power-sharing in danger. It does seem like DUP will be the biggest | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
hearty, Sinn Fein second. Relationships have not always been | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
good, so can we work together going forward? Yes, I think we can. The | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
Secretary of State Theresa Villiers said recently that we are ironically | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
in one of the most stable periods of devolution, because of the new fresh | :28:38. | :28:41. | |
start agreement put in place by our previous leader, Peter Robinson, in | :28:42. | :28:45. | |
November. I think that is the basis which can be followed. I am very | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
confident about the future of Northern Ireland. As I say, the | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
counting is under way here. But the complicated system basically | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
involves candidates being elected and then any surplus votes they have | :28:58. | :29:02. | |
being redistributed, any other candidate being eliminated and their | :29:03. | :29:09. | |
votes being redistributed. It is a complicated and long process. It | :29:10. | :29:11. | |
will be a long couple of days here. Let's take a look at some | :29:12. | :29:21. | |
other election news. Labour have held on to two | :29:22. | :29:25. | |
Westminster seats in parliamentary They comfortably held | :29:26. | :29:27. | |
Ogmore in South Wales, and Sheffield Brightside and | :29:28. | :29:31. | |
Hillsborough. Ukip came second | :29:32. | :29:34. | |
in both by-elections. Labour were also successful | :29:35. | :29:38. | |
in Liverpool, where Joe Anderson The outcome of the mayoral contests | :29:39. | :29:40. | |
in London, Salford and Bristol London is set to declare in the late | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
afternoon or evening. Voting also took place yesterday | :29:45. | :29:52. | |
for almost 40 Police and Crime Commissioners | :29:53. | :29:55. | |
across England and Wales. One result has been | :29:56. | :29:56. | |
declared - Wiltshire - The rest of the results should be | :29:57. | :29:58. | |
known by the end of the day. We can go back now to Gavin Esler in | :29:59. | :30:11. | |
Scotland, where it has been an historic night for the SNP. | :30:12. | :30:17. | |
And historic night for the SNP, very difficult for Labour, there are | :30:18. | :30:23. | |
those who think they lost to every other party everywhere, pretty much. | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
Alex Rowley, the deputy leader the Scottish Labour and also the party's | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
campaign director, joins me. What went wrong for you, it seems you | :30:34. | :30:38. | |
lost votes to all the other parties? We had a very bad night. We put | :30:39. | :30:42. | |
forward a very positive agenda, setting out how we would tackle | :30:43. | :30:46. | |
austerity stop the cuts and invest in Bulls future, but we did not | :30:47. | :30:51. | |
persuade enough people up and down the country, and the failure to do | :30:52. | :30:56. | |
that has resulted in this very bad result for us. Did you make a | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
strategic mistake in not focusing on the independence campaign and | :31:03. | :31:06. | |
talking about raising income tax and so on, and attacking the SNP from | :31:07. | :31:10. | |
the left when it seems voters are still preoccupied with the | :31:11. | :31:15. | |
independence issue? It was right for Labour and fairly bold of Kezia | :31:16. | :31:18. | |
Dugdale to set up this agenda, moving forward. We had to tackle the | :31:19. | :31:22. | |
big issues in Scotland, we were right to do that, but it is | :31:23. | :31:26. | |
evidently clear that people are still talking about the | :31:27. | :31:30. | |
constitution, and that it is still a big issue. For Labour, we had to | :31:31. | :31:34. | |
learn for that and set out the type of Scotland that we would see moving | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
forward, addressing the constitutional questions, that is | :31:39. | :31:42. | |
the next step. Do you worry it could get even worse for Labour in | :31:43. | :31:46. | |
Scotland? I have spoken to people who think you could have a wipe-out | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
in Glasgow in the local elections next year? Unless we can set out a | :31:52. | :31:54. | |
clear vision for Scotland, unless we can show we have an idea for | :31:55. | :31:59. | |
Scotland, how we would tackle the issues of inequality and poverty by | :32:00. | :32:02. | |
investing in stopping the cuts, addressing the issue of the | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
constitution and setting out our vision on how we move forward. | :32:08. | :32:11. | |
Unfortunately, in Scotland, there is the label that you are unionist or | :32:12. | :32:14. | |
Nationalist, neighbour macro needs to set out what it leaves is the | :32:15. | :32:19. | |
best way forward for Scotland. -- Labour needs to. You have been | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
called the red Tories, yet somehow the Conservative vote has gone up | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
close they were very clear on independence and that their job was | :32:31. | :32:36. | |
to oppose the SNP. To answer the red Tories question, the only party | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
setting out how to stop the cuts, with the SNP agenda there will be ?3 | :32:41. | :32:45. | |
billion of cuts, harming public services. The only party proposing | :32:46. | :32:50. | |
to address that was Labour, we were right to do that. The voters did not | :32:51. | :32:54. | |
think so. We need to address the constitutional question, in terms of | :32:55. | :32:59. | |
the constitution moving forward. It is a clear question for the future | :33:00. | :33:04. | |
of Scotland. I think we failed to do that. Will people continue to be | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
happy with Kezia Dugdale 's leadership, or will they want to | :33:09. | :33:12. | |
change? In her short time as leader, I think she has made real progress. | :33:13. | :33:18. | |
We say we want to create an autonomous Labour Party, Kezia | :33:19. | :33:22. | |
Dugdale has pushed that and we are making the progress, there will be a | :33:23. | :33:25. | |
decision at the UK conference. We want a strong autonomy for the | :33:26. | :33:30. | |
Labour Party in Scotland. We want to set out the type of party that we | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
see moving forward, and exactly how the constitutional question will be | :33:36. | :33:39. | |
addressed by the Labour Party in Scotland. Kezia Dugdale has shown | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
real strength, but she also showed real strength ensuring that she | :33:44. | :33:47. | |
would tackle austerity. Others have talked about it, Kezia Dugdale was | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
the only leader to set out a clear agenda. | :33:51. | :33:54. | |
Was there a Corbyn factor in Scotland at all? Was his name | :33:55. | :33:58. | |
mentioned on the doorsteps, or was he regarded as irrelevant? I think | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
the days of Labour Party leaders coming up from Westminster and | :34:04. | :34:06. | |
telling the Scottish Labour Party how to run their affairs is over, | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
and that is right. Kezia Dugdale has made clear that she is the leader of | :34:11. | :34:15. | |
the party in Scotland, we are establishing an autonomous Labour | :34:16. | :34:19. | |
Party in Scotland. Jeremy Corbyn, I think, is a breath of fresh air. The | :34:20. | :34:23. | |
people of Scotland voted for him at welcome his leadership, we support | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
that, but in Scotland, Kezia Dugdale is read. If we are to tackle that | :34:28. | :34:34. | |
result last night, we need a strong, autonomous Labour Party in Scotland | :34:35. | :34:38. | |
with a clear vision for the future. Thank you for taking the time to | :34:39. | :34:44. | |
talk to us. You are watching BBC News, Election 2016. Election 2016 | :34:45. | :34:54. | |
coverage on BBC News. Votes are still being counted | :34:55. | :34:56. | |
in the local and regional elections but a clear picture is emerging | :34:57. | :34:59. | |
of how the parties are The SNP wins a third victory | :35:00. | :35:01. | |
in the Scottish Parliamentary elections but loses | :35:02. | :35:11. | |
its overall majority. With all the results now in, | :35:12. | :35:18. | |
Nicola Sturgeon's party is two seats Labour drops to third place in | :35:19. | :35:33. | |
Scotland, down 13 seats, in the first big test of Jeremy Corbyn pits | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
leadership. But it has held onto most of its local authorities in | :35:39. | :35:41. | |
England and retain two Westminster seats in parliamentary by-elections. | :35:42. | :35:43. | |
The Conservatives are now the main opposition in Scotland | :35:44. | :35:45. | |
The Scottish Tory leader, Ruth Davidson, took | :35:46. | :35:48. | |
In Wales, Labour remains the largest party in the devolved Assembly, | :35:49. | :35:54. | |
It has been a good night for the Ukip. | :35:55. | :36:01. | |
Ukip meanwhile claimed its first seats in the Welsh assembly - | :36:02. | :36:04. | |
so far it's got six, that's one more than Nigel Farage's target. | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
It has also made gains in English councils. | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
And a significant win for Plaid Cymru - leader Leanne Wood | :36:11. | :36:13. | |
took the south Wales heartland seat of Rhondda from Labour. | :36:14. | :36:26. | |
Labour had a mixed night in council elections in England. They held onto | :36:27. | :36:32. | |
some key authorities which they were expected to lose, the critics have | :36:33. | :36:36. | |
said that it has not fared well enough to suggest a generally | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
election victory in four years. Andy Burnham was asked about claims he | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
was planning to stand as the first mayor of Greater Manchester when the | :36:46. | :36:49. | |
position is created next year. There is no decision. I had not | :36:50. | :36:53. | |
planned for this news to come out at this time, it is very early days. | :36:54. | :36:57. | |
The truth is, I have had people approaching me to consider it. I | :36:58. | :37:03. | |
have decided to consider it. Over the next few days I will take | :37:04. | :37:10. | |
soundings from people... Obviously the political community in Greater | :37:11. | :37:14. | |
Manchester but also people from business, sport, other fields, the | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
health service, and make a decision in June course. Whatever that | :37:19. | :37:25. | |
decision is, I continue to serve the leader of the Labour Party and stay | :37:26. | :37:30. | |
in the Shadow Cabinet. The short while ago, Shadow Foreign | :37:31. | :37:32. | |
Secretary Hilary Benn gave his reaction to Labour's performance in | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
the polls, admitting that the party had a long way to go to regain | :37:37. | :37:38. | |
ground. We have retained control of | :37:39. | :37:43. | |
cancelled people predicted we might lose, faces like Harlow, Norwich and | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
Southampton. We won the two by-elections. Looking forward to the | :37:49. | :37:51. | |
result of the London mayoral election, hoping that Sadiq Khan | :37:52. | :37:55. | |
will be victorious. Our share of the boat is up compared with this time | :37:56. | :37:59. | |
last year, but we have a long way to go. That is the message from these | :38:00. | :38:03. | |
elections. If we will form a Government in 2020, which we want | :38:04. | :38:07. | |
to, to be able to get rid of this Government, we need to win back | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
trust and confidence from more people, which is a task for all | :38:11. | :38:14. | |
others in the party. What would you say to people who say that it is a | :38:15. | :38:19. | |
relief, we have earned breathing space, is there room for | :38:20. | :38:23. | |
complacency? I don't think there is any complacency on the part of | :38:24. | :38:27. | |
anybody. We have a big task ahead, Jeremy was elected with a big | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
mandate. Our job is to support him, that the electoral test accounts, | :38:33. | :38:35. | |
whether you win support. If we are to be able to defeat this | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
Government, we need to win more support in the months and years | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
ahead. This is the first stage, we have made progress compared with | :38:44. | :38:46. | |
last year, we have a long way to go. Hilary Benn. Let's return to Wales, | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
it was a good night for Labour and also, as we reflected, a good night | :38:54. | :38:58. | |
for Ukip, currently with six seats, one more that the target set by | :38:59. | :39:02. | |
party leader Nigel Farage. Sian Lloyd has the detail. Hello. | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
Good morning from Cardiff Bay. There will be many new faces coming here | :39:09. | :39:14. | |
to the Senedd because a large and bothersome two members retired, they | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
were not seeking real action. -- a large number of members retired. | :39:20. | :39:23. | |
There will be new faces, some of them younger people. During the | :39:24. | :39:27. | |
course of campaigning in Wales, the parties were seeking the vote of | :39:28. | :39:31. | |
young people. I am joined by three of them. Amat, Ellie and Rob, great | :39:32. | :39:35. | |
to see you. You have brought the sunshine. First of all, what did you | :39:36. | :39:42. | |
think of the campaigning in Wales? You are a student in Cardiff but | :39:43. | :39:46. | |
from Portsmouth? That is correct, I live in Cardiff but I am originally | :39:47. | :39:50. | |
from Portsmouth. What I really noticed about this campaign, it was | :39:51. | :39:55. | |
more based on policies rather than personal attacks on individuals or | :39:56. | :40:00. | |
parties. Lots of the policies were discussed. In Portsmouth, where I | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
come from, there are regular attacks on politicians instead of focusing | :40:05. | :40:07. | |
on policies, so it was refreshing but it was more policy based. So a | :40:08. | :40:12. | |
bit friendlier here in Wales? Definitely! That is a positive. Any? | :40:13. | :40:20. | |
There has been a lot of support in Wales for politicians, which is the | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
same everywhere, but I have noticed a lot of communities demonstrating | :40:25. | :40:29. | |
who they are voting for, I feel like it is more vocal, more friendly, | :40:30. | :40:33. | |
there is more of a shared consensus. Everywhere I go, I see placard | :40:34. | :40:40. | |
saying who they are voting for. So it was high profile? I actually | :40:41. | :40:47. | |
think in comparison to England, it was more in the media and more out | :40:48. | :40:54. | |
there. Rob, what have you taken from the campaigning here? It was the | :40:55. | :40:57. | |
most competitive one I have seen to date. I thought it was so much | :40:58. | :41:03. | |
more... Every party ran a better campaign, it was much more visible | :41:04. | :41:09. | |
to see the other parties. It was not so much labour-macro/ Conservative, | :41:10. | :41:13. | |
everybody got a shout, it has helped people to be more engaged, they see | :41:14. | :41:20. | |
more opinions. Labour remained the biggest party in Wales, it looks | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
like Plaid Cymru will be in second place. What do you make of that? I | :41:25. | :41:30. | |
am worried about complacency. It was nice to see Plaid getting more and | :41:31. | :41:35. | |
more competitive, compared to Scotland where Labour has been | :41:36. | :41:38. | |
completely wiped out. It is about time there was a party like Plaid | :41:39. | :41:44. | |
Cymru, for me, they came on the part of the country, whereas I think | :41:45. | :41:49. | |
Labour can more about the party. It is most disease and body challenging | :41:50. | :41:54. | |
Labour, tackling the complacency. I would like to add that I am a Labour | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
voter, that one thing that I found really quite frustrating was how | :42:00. | :42:04. | |
this big election, this big game that we have got, could lead to a | :42:05. | :42:09. | |
lot of complacency. We lost Rhondda to Plaid, maybe that'll be a step up | :42:10. | :42:13. | |
for Carwyn Jones, but I worry that it will go back to the old Labour, | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
the same complacency we have seen in Scotland, and we could be wiped out | :42:19. | :42:22. | |
again in the next election, I am worried about that. There is the | :42:23. | :42:26. | |
proportional representation element here. As a result of that, the | :42:27. | :42:31. | |
regional list is, of which there are 20 seats available, Ukip will be | :42:32. | :42:35. | |
coming here for the first time. Any comments on that? I think it is a | :42:36. | :42:43. | |
bit of a shame, when Wales was building, they got people from all | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
over Europe and all over the world to try to come together. You could's | :42:48. | :42:52. | |
anti-immigration policy is not something I support, I don't think | :42:53. | :42:55. | |
it is in the best interests of Wales. At the end of the day, this | :42:56. | :42:59. | |
is a democratic election, Wales has gone with the most democratic voting | :43:00. | :43:07. | |
system. Ellie, what caught your eye in the campaign? Any particularly | :43:08. | :43:11. | |
eye-catching policy? We are students, education is bound to be | :43:12. | :43:14. | |
important to us. That links to the concept of politicians getting | :43:15. | :43:17. | |
involved with young people and encouraging them. Living in Cardiff, | :43:18. | :43:22. | |
I have seen a bit more engagement with that. I feel like politicians | :43:23. | :43:26. | |
here are getting more involved with young people as opposed to back | :43:27. | :43:31. | |
where we are from, so reducing the disillusioned feel is important. I | :43:32. | :43:36. | |
think education has been really important. Like you say, lots of | :43:37. | :43:43. | |
issues in Wales. It is good that the democracy voters getting | :43:44. | :43:49. | |
represented. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming along this | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
morning and giving us your thoughts on the election here in Wales. That | :43:54. | :43:58. | |
is it from Cardiff Bay at the moment, let's go back to Gavin | :43:59. | :44:03. | |
Esler. Let's have a quick round-up of how | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
things are shaping up in Scotland. The Scottish National Party has won | :44:09. | :44:11. | |
its third election at the Scottish parliament but failed to secure a | :44:12. | :44:16. | |
majority at Holyrood. Labour's vote collapsed, pushing the party to | :44:17. | :44:20. | |
third place by the Conservatives, who will form the biggest opposition | :44:21. | :44:24. | |
party in the parliament. The Lib Dems staged a revival. With me here | :44:25. | :44:28. | |
is Willie Rennie Connor Scott -- the Scottish Lib Dems. Reports of your | :44:29. | :44:37. | |
demise was exaggerated. That is 60% of the vote in Orkney and Shetland, | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
we were predicted to lose, we did not. I won in North East Fife, | :44:42. | :44:45. | |
against all predictions. And in Edinburgh West, the charismatic | :44:46. | :44:52. | |
candidate won. Four brilliant constituency results. I think we | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
will have great influence, with the SNP losing a majority I think the | :44:57. | :44:57. | |
liberal voice will be heard. It must have been really difficult | :44:58. | :45:08. | |
to pick yourself up from that disaster a year ago. And you have | :45:09. | :45:11. | |
begun a fightback of some sort? I had the time of my life in this | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
campaign, touring Scotland, visiting all of the great places, showing | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
dynamism and vigour but also a clear policy platform. We're getting back | :45:22. | :45:24. | |
to our best as Liberal Democrats, and paining at our best, almost a | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
Charles Kennedy style of politics, reaching out to people in their | :45:29. | :45:32. | |
homes on things like mental health. We really touched people. We had | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
people coming up to us to say, at last, somebody speaking to us about | :45:38. | :45:42. | |
mental health. Other things like investing in education, making sure | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
that we exceed our climate change targets, big, bold visions about the | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
future. Our big slogan was Making Scotland The Best Again. It is that | :45:54. | :45:59. | |
kind of optimism which people liked. Where do you think all of this | :46:00. | :46:05. | |
leaves the independence debate? You could have a majority for | :46:06. | :46:07. | |
independence, if you add up all the seats from different parties. I | :46:08. | :46:13. | |
think the whole thing is put in doubt now. With the SNP losing a | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
majority, I think there is a clear signal being sent. I don't think | :46:19. | :46:22. | |
people want to have a round whole day debate about independence. We've | :46:23. | :46:27. | |
saddled the matter, it has been resolved, it was one of the biggest | :46:28. | :46:30. | |
democratic expert rinses of our lifetime. We should respect it and | :46:31. | :46:35. | |
move on, and think that's the message the SNP should be receiving | :46:36. | :46:38. | |
today. Whether they are listening or not is another matter but I am | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
determined to make them listen. Where do you think that leaves them, | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
in the sense that they have not got a majority so they will have to deal | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
with other people - could you deal with them on day-to-day issues? We | :46:51. | :46:55. | |
have worked with them before. We worked with them to deliver extra | :46:56. | :46:58. | |
nursery education for two-year-olds. But not in a formal coalition. No, | :46:59. | :47:04. | |
I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in getting Liberal | :47:05. | :47:08. | |
Democrat policies through. We got support for mental health services, | :47:09. | :47:11. | |
we got support for nursery education, that kind of level, we | :47:12. | :47:15. | |
will work with them if we can agree. If we can get Lib Dem policies | :47:16. | :47:20. | |
through, we will deliver some kind of progress. But what we will not do | :47:21. | :47:24. | |
is, we are not interested in coalition agreements. We will | :47:25. | :47:30. | |
strongly oppose them on the police. If it was not for us, it would not | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
have been dealt with. So the Liberal Democrats will play a very strong | :47:35. | :47:37. | |
role in this Parliament. Now that they have lost their majority, I | :47:38. | :47:41. | |
think the constructive approach of the Liberal Democrats is the right | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
one. Willie Rennie, thank you very much for speaking to us. Very | :47:47. | :47:51. | |
interesting that in Shetland, for example, the Liberal Democrats have | :47:52. | :47:57. | |
made huge gains. Orkney and Shetland are clearly a different part of | :47:58. | :48:01. | |
Scotland. It has been part of the picture up and down the country as a | :48:02. | :48:02. | |
whole. It's also been a night of gains | :48:03. | :48:04. | |
for Ukip who took around 20 seats in local councils in England - | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
while in Wales, the party says it's on course to take eight seats | :48:09. | :48:11. | |
in the Welsh Assembly. Let's go to Westminster now | :48:12. | :48:13. | |
and our assistant political editor I have just got an e-mail on my | :48:14. | :48:24. | |
phone from Ukip, saying, Ukip read through. I was wondering what it | :48:25. | :48:29. | |
was, but it refers to Wales, where Ukip have gained six councillors. | :48:30. | :48:34. | |
They previously had none. But in the rest of the United Kingdom, not such | :48:35. | :48:39. | |
an impressive story for Ukip. The party leader Nigel Farage joins me | :48:40. | :48:43. | |
now. It is true for, isn't it? There has not really been any breakthrough | :48:44. | :48:48. | |
outside Wales? No, we're up. We are winning seats on councils all over | :48:49. | :48:52. | |
the country. We are coming second in a phenomenal number of seats. I | :48:53. | :48:56. | |
think the big trend within England is that in the north of England, we | :48:57. | :48:59. | |
have really now replaced the Conservatives as the opposition | :49:00. | :49:03. | |
party for Labour in the big northern cities. That is a big message when | :49:04. | :49:07. | |
it comes to the referendum. In six weeks' time, we have got to get | :49:08. | :49:11. | |
people, not just Ukip voters but Labour voters as well, in the north | :49:12. | :49:18. | |
of England, to come out and vote for Brexit. People might think, I agree | :49:19. | :49:26. | |
with them on Europe, OK, but not in local government. I think at the | :49:27. | :49:32. | |
moment we have gained more seats in England than any other party. We | :49:33. | :49:35. | |
have got 500 councillors across England. It takes time. We are | :49:36. | :49:40. | |
getting there. Our percentages are up from the general election last | :49:41. | :49:44. | |
year. National opinion poll, we are at or near the all-time highs for | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
the party. Let me put it to you, you are at a standstill, you are on the | :49:50. | :49:54. | |
same share is at the last election? We are 13% up from when these | :49:55. | :49:57. | |
elections were forced last time around. From the general election | :49:58. | :50:05. | |
last year, we are up by 3.5-4%. We have broken through in Wales. I am | :50:06. | :50:09. | |
hopeful for a breakthrough in the London nb this afternoon. I even | :50:10. | :50:13. | |
think there is a chance we will breakthrough in Stormont. -- in the | :50:14. | :50:18. | |
London Assembly. You mentioned you were coming second in traditional | :50:19. | :50:22. | |
Labour seats, but is it not the case that you tell a different story in | :50:23. | :50:26. | |
different parts of the country? In Labour seats, you are a | :50:27. | :50:30. | |
working-class party, in Tory seats, you are a traditional...? Are you | :50:31. | :50:34. | |
left of centre or right of centre, as a party? Left or right is | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
irrelevant! You can learn that at university! This is about whether we | :50:40. | :50:45. | |
are a self-governing nation. The big issue, which everybody in | :50:46. | :50:48. | |
Westminster wants to run away from, is border controls and the effect | :50:49. | :50:52. | |
that mass immigration is having on our schools and hospitals and | :50:53. | :50:55. | |
people's pay rates. There is nothing left wing or right wing about that. | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
It is about putting the interests of ordinary British people first. You | :51:00. | :51:04. | |
have said for years about how you are clawing votes away in | :51:05. | :51:06. | |
traditional Labour seats, but you're still losing! Look at Hartlepool, | :51:07. | :51:13. | |
for example. Rock solid Labour. Last night, we won three seats and we | :51:14. | :51:18. | |
came second in ten. This does not happen overnight. It takes time, but | :51:19. | :51:22. | |
we're getting there. We have got more results coming this afternoon. | :51:23. | :51:27. | |
We will see places like Leeds, Sheffield and Rotherham and I expect | :51:28. | :51:31. | |
to see more games. Is there any point in Ukip after the EU | :51:32. | :51:35. | |
referendum? Is there any point in a party which is prepared to make big | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
calls against the prevailing consensus and get them right, as we | :51:40. | :51:43. | |
have done on the European question, as we have done on open-door | :51:44. | :51:46. | |
immigration and as we have tried to do on social mobility and other | :51:47. | :51:50. | |
issues. You bet there is. So Ukip will continue? Of course it will. | :51:51. | :51:56. | |
Because there have been all sorts of suggestions about how it will become | :51:57. | :52:01. | |
a social media party. Ukip needs to change. At the moment the managing | :52:02. | :52:05. | |
structure is based on willing volunteers. We have to | :52:06. | :52:07. | |
professionalise that. We then have to change our membership model to | :52:08. | :52:11. | |
reach out to a younger demographic. The model I'm in favour of is the | :52:12. | :52:17. | |
5-star movement in Italy, who are currently at 30% in the opinion | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
polls. I want us to have a big online engagement. Last week we | :52:22. | :52:26. | |
became the biggest party in Britain on social media, overtaking the | :52:27. | :52:29. | |
Conservatives despite the vast amount of money they have spent on | :52:30. | :52:32. | |
it. We now have to convert that into something more real. Once we have | :52:33. | :52:38. | |
had the EU referendum vote, whichever way it goes, your central | :52:39. | :52:42. | |
political aim has always been to secure this referendum and to secure | :52:43. | :52:45. | |
Brexit, so after that, what is the point? You said the same thing to me | :52:46. | :52:51. | |
after the Bloomberg speech. You said, what is the point of Ukip? We | :52:52. | :52:55. | |
have gone on since then from strength to strength. Let's see what | :52:56. | :52:59. | |
happens to Ukip after the 23rd of June. What really matters to me is | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
that Ukip is winning this referendum, getting back the | :53:04. | :53:06. | |
independence and self-governance of our country. Nigel Farage, thank you | :53:07. | :53:12. | |
very much for your time. So, Ukip will carry on, although may be | :53:13. | :53:15. | |
slightly changed in the way it does politics. Back to you, Gavin. | :53:16. | :53:23. | |
Norman, thank you very much. We are doing some number crunching here | :53:24. | :53:28. | |
with Mark Diffley, rector of polling with Ipsos MORI. He is based here in | :53:29. | :53:34. | |
Edinburgh. Beginning with the SNP, we have said they have failed to | :53:35. | :53:37. | |
reach an overall majority, but they have done incredibly well? Yes. The | :53:38. | :53:42. | |
headline from this election is definitely, this is the third term, | :53:43. | :53:47. | |
the hat-trick, another five years for the SNP, which is unprecedented | :53:48. | :53:49. | |
for the Scottish Parliament, and in a system, a voting system, which is | :53:50. | :53:56. | |
set up to encourage coalitions, essentially. The fact that they have | :53:57. | :53:59. | |
got pretty much almost a majority government is quite an achievement, | :54:00. | :54:05. | |
actually. And yet, they will be slightly disappointed, given the | :54:06. | :54:10. | |
level of expectation that there was beforehand. How do you account for | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
the Conservative vote? As you well know, just a few years ago, | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
Conservatives did not like to say they were Conservative at all, they | :54:20. | :54:21. | |
did not say it on the doorstep? That's right. Despite the headline | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
that the SNP have won, the real story here actually is the rise of | :54:27. | :54:31. | |
the Tories. They have got a young, charismatic leader who reaches out I | :54:32. | :54:34. | |
think beyond the traditional Tory constituency. And they've also | :54:35. | :54:42. | |
played the aftermath of the referendum pretty astutely, it has | :54:43. | :54:45. | |
to be said. They have portrayed themselves as the party of unionism, | :54:46. | :54:50. | |
and if you want to protect yourself against a second independence | :54:51. | :54:56. | |
referendum, they had the line, to vote Tory to protect yourself | :54:57. | :55:00. | |
against another referendum throughout, and were completely | :55:01. | :55:03. | |
consistent on that throughout the campaign. Did Labour make a | :55:04. | :55:07. | |
strategic mistake in trying to attack SNP from the left? Because | :55:08. | :55:10. | |
that's not perhaps where the votes were? No, and we saw,, who spoke | :55:11. | :55:15. | |
about the election of Jeremy Corbyn down south as being somehow riding | :55:16. | :55:20. | |
to the rescue for Scottish Labour up here. That hasn't happened, | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
unsurprisingly just so I think it is a sign that attacking the SNP from | :55:26. | :55:28. | |
the left was not the right move at all. Also I think they have | :55:29. | :55:32. | |
mishandled the constitutional question and given out mixed signals | :55:33. | :55:37. | |
as to whether party stands on that. Given that 55% of people voted to | :55:38. | :55:42. | |
stay in the union only 18 months ago, the Tories just had a much | :55:43. | :55:46. | |
clearer position on that issue. And on the European Union referendum | :55:47. | :55:49. | |
which is coming up, it is constantly said Scotland is for staying in - is | :55:50. | :55:55. | |
that what you're polls find? Yes, the polling in Scotland is much more | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
in favour of Remain down in the UK as a whole. However, there are | :56:01. | :56:05. | |
somewhere between 25 having 30% of voters in Scotland, about a million | :56:06. | :56:11. | |
voters, who want to leave the EU. -- between 25-30%. And there is no | :56:12. | :56:16. | |
political representation apart from the leader of Ukip in Scotland. They | :56:17. | :56:22. | |
have not got any seats. Here's an MEP, but nonetheless the only | :56:23. | :56:25. | |
elected representative in Scotland representing those nearly 1 million | :56:26. | :56:31. | |
voters. It is quite extraordinary. As you can see behind me, it is a | :56:32. | :56:34. | |
glorious day here in Holyrood. Let's have a look at the weather | :56:35. | :56:41. | |
nationwide now, with Chris Fawkes. Thanks a lot, Gavin full stop | :56:42. | :56:44. | |
yesterday's was the warmest day of the year. -- thanks a lot, Gavin. | :56:45. | :56:53. | |
Yesterday was the warmest day of the year so far. And by Sunday, | :56:54. | :56:56. | |
temperatures could even get up to 27. We have some high cloud at the | :56:57. | :57:04. | |
moment, thinnest over south-east England, where strong sunshine is | :57:05. | :57:10. | |
coming through. More cloudy across the far north of England, Scotland | :57:11. | :57:13. | |
and Northern Ireland as well. But most of us will see some sunshine. | :57:14. | :57:17. | |
Come this afternoon, warmer for most of us. The top temperature, 24, in | :57:18. | :57:24. | |
London. Today, again, will be the warmest day of the year so far. | :57:25. | :57:28. | |
North Sea coasts will be a bit cooler with the onshore breezes. And | :57:29. | :57:34. | |
we do have that area of high cloud, which will be a bit thicker across | :57:35. | :57:38. | |
parts of Scotland and the far north of England, making the sunshine a | :57:39. | :57:49. | |
little bit of hazy. Otherwise it should be largely dry picture to | :57:50. | :57:51. | |
take through the night time. Temperatures on the mild side | :57:52. | :58:02. | |
overnight. Tomorrow, a rate risk of showers affecting Wales and the | :58:03. | :58:06. | |
south-west of England. Maybe an area of rain moving across Northern | :58:07. | :58:09. | |
Ireland. We might have some low cloud affecting some of the coasts | :58:10. | :58:14. | |
of north-east England and Eastern Scotland, but in the sunshine, it | :58:15. | :58:22. | |
will be another warm day. If we do see this low cloud form, however, | :58:23. | :58:28. | |
temperatures will be pegged back around these coasts. There is a bit | :58:29. | :58:41. | |
of uncertainty about how that low cloud may or may not form. Sunday, a | :58:42. | :58:45. | |
lot of dry weather again. Hazy sunshine the order of the day. There | :58:46. | :58:52. | |
could be some hefty showers breaking out in the afternoon. Aside from | :58:53. | :58:55. | |
those than the storms, it will be even warmer, as ugly upto 27 | :58:56. | :59:00. | |
degrees, on Sunday, which would make is warmer than the likes of Lisbon, | :59:01. | :59:04. | |
Rome, Athens and Istanbul. So we will have bragging rights over | :59:05. | :59:08. | |
Europe for many of us at least this weekend, warmer than areas in the | :59:09. | :59:10. | |
Mediterranean. I'm Gavin Esler and | :59:11. | :00:03. | |
welcome to Holyrood. Here in Scotland, Labour | :00:04. | :00:06. | |
records its worse vote share in a century as the SNP claims | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
a historic third victory in the Scottish | :00:10. | :00:11. | |
Parliament elections. Nicola Sturgeon's party receives | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
nearly half the vote - but fails to secure an overall | :00:16. | :00:17. | |
majority by two seats. Ruth Davidson's Scottish | :00:18. | :00:22. | |
Conservatives overtake Labour for the first time to become | :00:23. | :00:23. | |
the second party in Holyrood. We expect to hear from the Prime | :00:24. | :00:31. | |
Minister in the next hour. In England, the picture so far | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
is largely unchanged as Labour manage to retain control | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
of a number of key councils. Jeremy Corbyn's party also hold | :00:39. | :00:40. | |
onto two Westminster by-elections - but senior figures say there's no | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
room for complacency. We have a long way to go. I think | :00:44. | :00:57. | |
that is the message from these elections. Because of we are going | :00:58. | :01:02. | |
to form a government in 2020, which we want to, to be able to get rid of | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
this government, we have to windbag more people's trust and confidence. | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
This is the scene live in Sheffield where the Labour leader is due | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
That is one of the two by-election seats that Labour held onto | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
overnight. Hello, I'm Sian Lloyd | :01:17. | :01:17. | |
at Cardiff Bay. Labour falls just short | :01:18. | :01:19. | |
of a majority but remains the biggest party in Wales, | :01:20. | :01:22. | |
though their vote share is down. Ukip wins their first seats | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
in the Welsh Assembly, There is a stunning personal victory | :01:28. | :01:41. | |
for Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood in Rhondda. | :01:42. | :01:42. | |
We'll bring you all of the latest reaction and results | :01:43. | :01:44. | |
Good morning and welcome to Election 2016. | :01:45. | :02:11. | |
A clear picture has emerged of how the parties have fared | :02:12. | :02:16. | |
in yesterday's local and regional elections, | :02:17. | :02:17. | |
though results will continue to come in through the day. | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
Here at Holyrood, the Scottish National Party has won a third | :02:21. | :02:22. | |
election at the Scottish Parliament but failed to secure a majority. | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
The party's leader Nicola Sturgeon described the night as historic. | :02:28. | :02:29. | |
David Cameron has congratulated the leader of the Scottish | :02:30. | :02:31. | |
Conservatives, Ruth Davidson - he praised her as a leader | :02:32. | :02:34. | |
who will stand up to the SNP and give Scotland strong opposition. | :02:35. | :02:37. | |
In English local elections, Labour defied expectations | :02:38. | :02:39. | |
by holding on to a number of councils thought | :02:40. | :02:41. | |
Ukip saw a number of advances across England and Wales. | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
Critics of Labour's leader Jeremy Corbyn have said the council | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
results show that the party needs to be winning much more | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
So here in Scotland the SNP have 63 MSPs after losing two seats. | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
The Conservatives gained 16 Holyrood seats and are now the second largest | :02:58. | :03:00. | |
So Labour, losing 13 seats, have dipped into third place | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
In the English local elections so far, Labour have fared better. | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
They've lost dozens of seats but retained control of all but one | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
In Wales Labour's still the largest party though its vote dropped | :03:16. | :03:24. | |
and it lost a key seat to the Welsh nationalist party, | :03:25. | :03:26. | |
Ukip had a very good night in Wales, securing six new members | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
to the Welsh Assembly in return for 14% of the vote. | :03:32. | :03:39. | |
We're hoping to go over to Sheffield Brightside in just a moment, where | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
Labour have held in that by-election. Joe Furnas will be the | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
new MP. Let's get some perspective on all of this from our political | :03:53. | :03:56. | |
correspondent Norman Smith, who joins us from Westminster. What do | :03:57. | :04:01. | |
you make of these results so far? It is a tale of two countries, a huge | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
up shirt in Scotland with the demise of Labour pushed humiliatingly at | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
historically into third place -- a huge upset in Scotland. In England, | :04:12. | :04:23. | |
almost nothing has changed. That is significant that two reasons, Mr | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
Corbyn is safe for now. His critics do not have the ammunition to move | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
against him, because it has gone precisely nowhere. The second | :04:33. | :04:43. | |
thing we know is the deep, deep doldrums that Labour is in south of | :04:44. | :04:51. | |
the border. Here we are, six years after Mr Cameron was elected, after | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
years of austerity in the middle of the Euro bloodbath, the party is | :04:57. | :05:00. | |
unable to make any progress at all. Labour is on course to lose roughly | :05:01. | :05:06. | |
around 25 councillors and will have lost one council in Dudley. I | :05:07. | :05:14. | |
suppose what is worrying Mr Corbyn's critic is that they do not see any | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
prospect of that situation improving. They are pointing to a | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
number of bellwether councils and so-called Middle England, places | :05:22. | :05:29. | |
like Tamworth, Bari, Nuneaton, and there the votes are slipping away | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
from Labour to the Conservatives -- Tamworth, Bury and Nuneaton. In the | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
need to know was an 11% swing from the Labour Party to that evidence. | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
Although Mr Corbyn himself might be saved, the apprehension and Labour | :05:45. | :05:49. | |
circles is huge. -- 11% swing from the Labour Party to the | :05:50. | :05:53. | |
Conservatives. I think we can cross to Jeremy Corbyn in Sheffield, where | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
labour won the by-election, increasing their share of the vote | :05:58. | :05:58. | |
by 5%. STUDIO: We're just waiting for Mr | :05:59. | :06:13. | |
Corbyn to arrive. We can see fig crowds applauding him after the | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
Labour by-election victory. And the new MP, Gill Furniss. | :06:18. | :06:36. | |
As you can see, there is a bit of wobbly vision going on as they get | :06:37. | :06:44. | |
ready. Slightly chaotic scenes. It looks like Mr Corbyn is | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
congratulating party workers there. We hope to hear him and Gill Furniss | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
say a few words. A fantastic result. This is, of | :06:52. | :07:12. | |
course, a by-election that none of us wanted. I think the late Harry | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
would be very proud that the by-election following his passing | :07:17. | :07:19. | |
gives an even better result for Labour than he achieved himself. | :07:20. | :07:30. | |
And all across England last night, we were getting predictions that | :07:31. | :07:33. | |
Labour was going to lose councils. We didn't, we hung on and we grew | :07:34. | :07:40. | |
support in a lot of places. And there are a lot more results to come | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
today. We're looking forward those. Because our party is standing up, | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
standing up for the steel industry, standing up against the cuts in | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
disability payments made by this Government, standing up against the | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
grotesque levels of inequality in Britain. That is the Labour message, | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
that the economy could and will be run in a very different way that | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
works for all, not just a phew, under the Tories. That is why Gill | :08:10. | :08:15. | |
was elected, that is why we won yesterday in Ogmore, that is why | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
people are supporting Labour. I want to congratulate the Labour Party in | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
Wales for its excellent results yesterday, and it will continue to | :08:25. | :08:31. | |
be a Labour Government in Wales. I also want to send this message to | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
our party in Scotland. Well done on the campaign you fought, well done | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
on the determination you have shown. There is a lot of building to do in | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
Scotland. We are going to be with you, we are going to walk | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
hand-in-hand with the party in Scotland to build but support once | :08:51. | :08:55. | |
again so that the Labour tradition in Scotland will be re-established | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
once again. I am sure I can send a message on behalf of everybody here | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
to our colleagues in Scotland, we are with you. | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
And so, today, we will finish the counting of all the results and we | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
will know the full picture by tonight or, indeed, in the case of | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
Bristol, by tomorrow. But we are also very determined that we will | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
continue our opposition to what this Government is doing. We are forcing | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
them back on so many things, such as the academisation, the force | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
academisation of our schools, such as the continuous underfunding of | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
our NHS. Because, as I said to the Prime Minister last week, there is a | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
choice. Either you continue this path of cuts, closures and | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
inequality, or you collect the uncollected tax and you pay for the | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
services that everybody else needs. That is what we understand, I don't | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
think they do. This is the Labour way. Thank you very much. | :09:56. | :10:02. | |
REPORTER: Is it enough to win in 2020, Mr Corbyn? | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
STUDIO: Jeremy Corbyn Havili kick back at some of the critics which | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
suggested that the party was on course to lose 150 or 200 seats, he | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
said we hung on and grew support. Clung on is an interesting phase. I | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
guess many of those critics inside the party would say that is the | :10:23. | :10:26. | |
point, we just clung on when Labour ought to be winning seats. Also | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
interesting that he made a specific point about talking about Scotland's | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
and how he applauded the campaign that the party had fought there and | :10:36. | :10:39. | |
how he hoped to build Labour as the traditional party in Scotland. | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
Interesting for two reasons. When Mr Corbyn became leader, he very | :10:46. | :10:48. | |
specifically said he wanted to make a priority of rebuilding the party | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
in Scotland. There was a view that is more left-wing brand of Labour | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
politics might resonate a bit more in Scotland. Clearly, that has not | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
happened. The second thing I found interesting is that there is no | :11:02. | :11:04. | |
route map, it seems to me, certainly from what Mr Corbyn said, about how | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
Labour will re-establish itself in Scotland. Over the past few years | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
they have pretty much tried everything, rebranded themselves as | :11:15. | :11:16. | |
separate from the National party, tried different leaders, try taking | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
a distinct tinge to the left. None of that has worked. You are left | :11:23. | :11:25. | |
scratching your head, what is it that Mr Corbyn or anyone else can do | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
to re-establish the Labour Party in Scotland? For Mr Corbyn, I suppose | :11:30. | :11:36. | |
he will draw comfort that he has got breathing space at the moment. His | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
position is not under immediate threat, which it could have been if | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
the party had suffered significant losses of 150, 200 or so | :11:46. | :11:51. | |
councillors. STUDIO: Thank you, Norman. As you | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
rightly say, Jeremy Corbyn's words about a lot of rebuilding to do in | :11:56. | :12:00. | |
Scotland will be praying quite big throughout the days and weeks ahead, | :12:01. | :12:05. | |
Isis backs right up to next year's local elections in Scotland, where | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
Labour might feel under pressure -- I suspect right up to next year's | :12:11. | :12:17. | |
local elections. Let's catch chirp with what is going on across the | :12:18. | :12:19. | |
country, with Carole Walker. A third term in power for Nicola | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
Sturgeon. Though the SNP fell short of majority, the result confirms her | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
party's grip on politics in Scotland. Tonight is a huge vote of | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
confidence on record in government and a huge vote of trust in our | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
ability to lead the country forward. But the Conservative leader Ruth | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
Davidson had reason to be cheerful, winning Edinburgh Central and | :12:45. | :12:47. | |
overtaking Labour to be the second-largest Holyrood party. | :12:48. | :12:51. | |
The beleaguered Liberal Democrats retained their five seat in | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
Scotland. The result was a serious blow for Labour, with former party | :12:57. | :13:00. | |
leader Johann Lamont one of the political casualties. | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
Current leader Kezia Dugdale said she was heartbroken that her party | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
had been pushed into third place, but said she would remain as leader | :13:09. | :13:16. | |
no matter what. Jeremy Corbyn you the results would | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
also be seen as a test of his leadership. They have not been as | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
bad as some predicted, the critics say the party needs to do much | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
better if it is to have agents of regaining power. It was really | :13:29. | :13:32. | |
disappointing that the labour activists out there campaigning for | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
months -- Labour activists. Jeremy needs to take responsibility for | :13:36. | :13:42. | |
poor performance yesterday. Labour retain two safe seat, one in England | :13:43. | :13:47. | |
and Wales, they held onto some councils considered vulnerable and | :13:48. | :13:50. | |
retained control of Southampton and Hastings along the south coast. The | :13:51. | :13:54. | |
deputy leader appealed for patients. We have lost some, not as many as | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
addicted. Reasonable people both within the Labour Party and our | :14:01. | :14:03. | |
opponents, I think, would say that after only eight months it would be | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
very unfair to hang this particular set of results on Jeremy Corbyn | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
alone. -- we have lost some, not as many as a predict it. | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
The Conservatives made to modest gains. The party will be relieved to | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
have held ground at a time when the party is openly disagreeing over | :14:21. | :14:25. | |
Europe. Normally made term governments expect to lose ground, | :14:26. | :14:31. | |
we have held our own, we have taken Peterborough cancel, for example, | :14:32. | :14:36. | |
Labour has lost control of Dudley, I think it is much better than might | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
be expected. Labour is on course to retain power in Wales, but Ukip as | :14:42. | :14:47. | |
won seats that for the first time. A big breakthrough, Wales in | :14:48. | :14:50. | |
particular, but all threat the country. In England became almost | :14:51. | :14:55. | |
second everywhere, our boat Sherrock, raking through and getting | :14:56. | :14:59. | |
more firsts. Many results are still to come, including the contest for | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
London mayor, that these elections are already providing an important | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
insight into public opinion one year after the general election. | :15:08. | :15:18. | |
One of the big stories here in Holyrood has been the fact that the | :15:19. | :15:25. | |
Conservative Party have now got 31 MSPs at Holyrood, up 15 from last | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
time. One of those joins me now. Congratulations. Our you surprised | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
at how well the party has done? I think we are all just delighted. We | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
went into this campaign with a real mission set by Ruth Davidson, to | :15:41. | :15:44. | |
have our best result, and we have achieved beyond that. We have jumped | :15:45. | :15:51. | |
up to three MSPs in most regions now. It is a huge new base to work | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
from across Scotland. As you know, you were the toxic Tories for many, | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
many years, following the legacy of Mrs Thatcher, north of the border - | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
what do you think has turned that around? Some people say Ruth | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
Davidson has not talked about London Conservative very much, she has been | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
her own personal? I think people have that the Conservative Party in | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
this election to do a specific job. We have been clear that we want to | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
hold the SNP to account. And people have said they will put their faith | :16:24. | :16:27. | |
in Ruth Davidson and in the Conservative Party. I think people | :16:28. | :16:31. | |
have said, we need to start to turn the page on the coast at usual | :16:32. | :16:34. | |
arguments which have dominated the last ten years in this Parliament. | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
That is where we have done so well, because people now want to move on | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
in Scotland. Do you think they do? If you add the SNP representation | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
with that of the Greens, they do have a majority, in favour of | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
independence? I think people vote for different parties on various | :16:52. | :16:54. | |
issues. The Green Party have been trying to step back from the | :16:55. | :17:00. | |
referendum. They have suggested their policy would not be another | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
referendum without 1 million people signing up to it. We as a party are | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
clear at this election that we are not expecting people to be | :17:09. | :17:11. | |
card-carrying Conservatives in Scotland, but once again we want to | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
show how we as a party can work for our country. That has given a | :17:17. | :17:20. | |
greater agility for Ruth Davidson to take that case to people, and people | :17:21. | :17:29. | |
have responded. It is a great part of our democracy that actually we're | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
going to have normal politics again in the Scottish Parliament, | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
something we have been missing, with a centre-right opposition. Is it the | :17:39. | :17:45. | |
case that this is very much the Scottish Conservative Party, rather | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
than the Conservative Party? Yes, absolutely. We have a number of | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
policies in our manifesto, and that is how devolution in developing | :17:55. | :17:57. | |
across these islands. In Wales as well, there's a number of different | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
policies we are putting forward. The Scottish Parliament, with the new | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
powers, needs to have parties which are ready to meet the challenge of | :18:07. | :18:10. | |
consensus which has been built up. That is where I think over the next | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
five years, people in Scotland are going to have a chance to look at | :18:16. | :18:18. | |
the Conservative Party again, with fresh eyes, and we hope we can win | :18:19. | :18:23. | |
their confidence. Maybe I could ask you whether you think in the next | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
five years, however, the independence question might be | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
sidelined and economic will be the big issue? RUC and an opportunity | :18:32. | :18:38. | |
there? I hope so, but as long as there is an SNP government, we need | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
strong voices in that parliament to stand up for a strong United | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
Kingdom. Ruth and our team of MSPs, that is what our focus will be in | :18:48. | :18:51. | |
this Parliament. People who voted yes, or no are starting to want to | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
move forward, beyond the referendum. That is where I think there is a | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
great opportunity for us to start challenging again in Scotland. You | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
mentioned the fact that there are council elections and the next | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
Westminster election. This is all about building up and becoming once | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
again Scotland's natural party. Are you surprised at being an MSP? Not | :19:13. | :19:20. | |
personally, because I was number two on the list. But the fact that we | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
doubled our numbers to four in the Lothian region was very nice and it | :19:25. | :19:26. | |
was a bit of a surprise. Let's find out how things are | :19:27. | :19:40. | |
happening in Wales, with Sian Lloyd. Gavin, the sun has been coming out | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
here in Cardiff. Already, some of the new Assembly members are being | :19:46. | :19:55. | |
sworn in in the Senedd behind me. We are still waiting for the regional | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
vote of south Wales central. Four seats there. We can speak to our | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
Wales will respond and Tomos Morgan, as well as journalist Martin Shipton | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
who has been following the campaign closely. Tomos Morgan, bring us up | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
to date with how it has been settling down? The big news I think | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
will be around the Welsh Tories. They have not been able to take any | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
of the marginal seats they were looking at - the Gower, the Vale of | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
Clwyd, the Vale of Glamorgan. They have closed the gap but they have | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
not been able to take any of those seats. And they have lost some key | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
regional seats to Ukip. That will mean that questions will now be | :20:34. | :20:36. | |
asked of their leader, Andrew RT Davies. We will have to wait and | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
see. REA massive loss for the Lib Dems, who have now only got one | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
seat. Rusty Williams has not been able to increase the number of | :20:45. | :20:51. | |
seats. And of course, Plaid Cymru, winning wander from Labour, a major | :20:52. | :20:59. | |
scalp for Plaid Cymru. We are hearing that that south Wales | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
central result may be coming in shortly. Martin Shipton, you have | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
followed the campaign very closely - what do you make of things, with | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
only really one seat changing hands in Wales? That's right. I think many | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
people will be astonished, including many in the political parties. I | :21:17. | :21:18. | |
know that Labour themselves are quite overjoyed. They did not | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
imagine that they would end up with 29 seats. They were spinning a | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
couple of days ago that they will expect him to go down to 26. 29 is | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
exceptionally good for them. Some of the seats but they have retained | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
they have done so with quite significant majorities. Here in | :21:37. | :21:39. | |
Cardiff it was thought to be a very tight race in Cardiff North, but | :21:40. | :21:42. | |
they actually ended up retaining the seat with a majority of 3600. What | :21:43. | :21:50. | |
happened, do you think? I think a number of things have helped them. | :21:51. | :21:56. | |
For example, the recent steel crisis, which is very close to many | :21:57. | :22:03. | |
people in Wales. People have seen that the First Minister has acted in | :22:04. | :22:06. | |
a statesman-like way in terms of dealing with, representing the | :22:07. | :22:11. | |
nation. This is how Labour has tried to portray him, as the only | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
potential First Minister and is a real leader, in comparison with the | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
other leaders. And I think that that message has got across, to a degree. | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
Also I think the Conservatives are at a particularly low ebb now, in a | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
way that they were not after the general election a year ago. They | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
were riding the crest of a wave? They were, and at that time Labour | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
thought they might even go down to the low 20s. Labour strategists were | :22:38. | :22:45. | |
extremely gloomy, thinking both with the aftermath of the general | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
election, and also the election of Jeremy Corbyn, a lot of the | :22:50. | :22:53. | |
strategists here in Wales are not great fans of Mr Corbyn and they | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
thought it would be disastrous for Labour's prospects, but that has not | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
in fact proved to be the case. What is the feeling now between Plaid | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
Cymru and the Conservatives? Plaid Cymru are taking enormous comfort | :23:06. | :23:08. | |
from the fact that their leader, Leanne Wood, has pulled off this | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
remarkable victory over Leyton Andrews, the public services | :23:14. | :23:15. | |
minister, in her home patch of wonder. In a sense, that has masked | :23:16. | :23:21. | |
the lack of progress the party has made in other parts of Wales, in | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
other seats, where they were hoping to gain. They have not really | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
advanced in the way they were hoping to. They had been presenting | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
themselves as an alternative government for Wales and saying, | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
vote for real change, we have got all of these dynamic overseas. Well, | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
the people of Wales have not really bought that. But nevertheless it is | :23:43. | :23:46. | |
a tremendous coup for Leanne Wood personally to have won Ronda. For | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
the Conservatives they are buried is appointed. They cannot really | :23:52. | :23:53. | |
understand where they have done as badly as they have. They are quite | :23:54. | :23:58. | |
sophisticated in terms of their voter engagement techniques come on | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
writing personal letters to voters, getting David Cameron to write | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
letters to voters, and perhaps as a recent sundeck indicated, David | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
Cameron is not as popular in Wales as they may have thought he was and | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
it may have been a bit of a turn-off for them. As Tomos Morgan was | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
saying, I think there will be question marks over the future of | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
Andrew RT Davies as their leader. He has been talking about taking seats | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
from Labour, and they have not been able to do that at all. And so it is | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
a very bad day for them. Thank you very much both of you for joining | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
me. And Ukip members will also be joining the National Assembly for | :24:39. | :24:39. | |
Wales. Now, back to Annita McVeigh. In the English local | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
authority elections, the overall picture with 80 councils | :24:45. | :24:48. | |
declared remains largely unchanged. Labour stays in control | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
of 41 of the 42 councils it was defending - | :24:56. | :24:57. | |
that only defeat coming in Dudley, which is now under | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
no overall control. Looking at the share | :25:01. | :25:02. | |
of the votes in England compared with four years ago, | :25:03. | :25:08. | |
you can see it remains fairly stable for the Conservatives, | :25:09. | :25:15. | |
but Labour have suffered a four-point drop, with Ukip | :25:16. | :25:16. | |
seeing a six-point rise Let's take a look at some | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
other election news. Labour have held on to two | :25:21. | :25:28. | |
Westminster seats in parliamentary They comfortably held | :25:29. | :25:30. | |
Ogmore in South Wales, and Sheffield Brightside and | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
Hillsborough. Ukip came second | :25:35. | :25:36. | |
in both by-elections. Labour were also successful | :25:37. | :25:39. | |
in Liverpool, where Joe Anderson The outcome of the mayoral contests | :25:40. | :25:41. | |
in London, Salford and Bristol London is set to declare in the late | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
afternoon or evening. Voting also took place yesterday | :25:48. | :25:54. | |
for almost 40 Police and Crime Commissioners | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
across England and Wales. One result has been | :25:58. | :26:01. | |
declared - Wiltshire - The rest of the results should be | :26:02. | :26:03. | |
known by the end of the day. Counting has begun in the election | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
for the Northern Ireland Assembly. The final outcome won't be | :26:10. | :26:12. | |
known until tomorrow. Our Ireland correspondent | :26:13. | :26:14. | |
Chris Buckler is in Belfast. A little bit of marathon counting | :26:15. | :26:32. | |
session going on? Yes. The system is known as a single transferable vote. | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
You can see a number of names up in front of you. Those are the | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
candidates in just one constituency. There are six seats to be won in | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
each constituency. The process of getting those of six candidates from | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
all of those names means that there are multiple counts. People are | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
eliminated and their votes are reallocated. Spare votes are | :26:55. | :26:58. | |
reallocated as well. It is a long process. It makes it difficult for | :26:59. | :27:03. | |
the candidates. Just taking a look at these now, you get a sense of | :27:04. | :27:06. | |
what is actually happening in terms of this vote - do you think Sinn | :27:07. | :27:13. | |
Fein can make gains? I think we can, but I am not foolish enough to call | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
it at the moment. I do think that from what I have seen in terms of | :27:19. | :27:21. | |
the count, that Sinn Fein have done well. They have had a disciplined | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
approach in north Belfast and in West Belfast. We expect to do well. | :27:26. | :27:32. | |
We were out on the streets. If I can say so, some media pundits were | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
saying that this was going to fall below 50%. And of course in Belfast | :27:38. | :27:40. | |
and throughout the north, but is not true. Actually, north Belfast was | :27:41. | :27:49. | |
the lowest, at 52.8%. West and east have done 57.8% and 54%. That shows | :27:50. | :27:57. | |
people are engaged, but at the same time, everybody is asking what is | :27:58. | :28:03. | |
going to happen after this election. Sinn Fein and the DUP are the two | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
main parties within that power-sharing coalition, which has | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
to exist, for Stormont to exist. How are you going to agree a programme | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
of government? We have made it very clear that we were in this election | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
to go into government. We have shown what we can do in government. 40,000 | :28:21. | :28:28. | |
jobs. Putting ?1 billion into the Health Service. That is actually | :28:29. | :28:32. | |
coming from the DUP as well. Two weeks seems a short time but we are | :28:33. | :28:36. | |
up for that challenge. Having been in negotiations for a long period of | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
time, but we know the issues now and we should be able to do it in two | :28:41. | :28:45. | |
weeks, without any problem. I believe it is going to be a five | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
party coalition. Will we be able to do it? Absolutely we believe we can. | :28:49. | :28:54. | |
This is when it matters, when people come out and do their votes, and we | :28:55. | :28:57. | |
want to do what is best for the people. That is what we are elected | :28:58. | :29:02. | |
for. We always hear the positives, and you're talking about ?1 billion | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
more into health, which is badly needed. But ultimately, something | :29:07. | :29:11. | |
will suffer from that. Give me an idea of what is going to lose out? | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
What we have to do is prioritise. I am not going to the programme for | :29:17. | :29:20. | |
government to you today. Those negotiations will take place. | :29:21. | :29:24. | |
Everybody agrees that we need this injection, and as well, it needs | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
radical change. We can now go high-end to Gavin. | :29:30. | :29:35. | |
Here at Holyrood, it is obvious that there is a patchwork of results | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
looking up and down the United Kingdom as a whole. We will be | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
waiting for the London mayoral election results later today. The | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
Lib Dems have got something to cheer them up in some parts of Scotland, | :29:49. | :29:53. | |
Labour in some parts of England and Wales, the SNP and the Conservatives | :29:54. | :29:56. | |
have done extremely well here in Scotland. That is the big story | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
here. Now let's go over to Huw Edwards for continuing coverage of | :30:01. | :30:03. | |
Bbc Election 2016. | :30:04. | :30:07. |