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a big drop when you look at what the DUP candidate got which was 13,000. | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
We will pore over those in more detail surely. Chris, your thoughts. | :00:00. | :00:14. | |
What Newton was saying is panning out, we are seeing the voters | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
flocking to the DUP and Sinn Fein. This will be the highest ever vote | :00:19. | :00:26. | |
for the DUP. They got 225,000 votes in March and they have now added | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
50,000. Sinn Fein is in line for its highest ever vote. Clearly | :00:32. | :00:38. | |
Nationalists have looked at the SDLP and decided that they will call time | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
on them. One of the stories will be the tactical decision that Colum | :00:45. | :00:48. | |
Eastwood made. Just to explain these pictures. This is the count centre | :00:49. | :01:00. | |
in Omagh leisure centre. Michelle Gildernew, she looks pretty please | :01:01. | :01:09. | |
with herself. It was on the cards that if Sinn Fein were able to get | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
the nationalist to turn out, they would win that seat. I think even | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
Unionist accepted that. It looks like Sinn Fein have won back that | :01:19. | :01:23. | |
seat, which was a number one target. I think South Down was probably on | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
the cards, Foyle is the real surprise and it shows the dire state | :01:29. | :01:35. | |
of the SDLP. In one sense, to lose one seat would be misfortune, two to | :01:36. | :01:40. | |
be curlers, three is utterly calamitous. It now means, where do | :01:41. | :01:49. | |
they SDLP go? Similarly, word of the Ulster Unionist goal? It looks like | :01:50. | :01:51. | |
they were registered the worst percentage share of the vote | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
probably ever. You might have thought they could have come back in | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
a Stormont election but the trends here are irresistible. I think a | :02:02. | :02:05. | |
Stormont election would make it worse for them. Just pick up on the | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
figures, as far, just referring to them there are moment or two ago, as | :02:11. | :02:17. | |
far as Neary and Ahmad is concerned, still a big collapse in the Ulster | :02:18. | :02:24. | |
Unionist vote. In 2010, it was 8500, so it is down to half of what it | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
was. There was only one candidate... That ties in with what is happening | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
elsewhere. In the seat that Unionist could not win, they all tended to | :02:36. | :02:46. | |
line up behind the DUP. We hear that Theresa May has gone to Conservative | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
Party headquarters rather than Downing Street. I gave a little bit | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
of false information there. Alex Maskey... There will be trouble | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
ahead for Theresa May. Do you think she can hang on? It is none of my | :03:03. | :03:09. | |
business. I would have to say, she called an election on a very | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
specific purpose and it has dismally failed and in any other situation, | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
she would be gone by tomorrow. Simon Hamilton, welcome. Thank you for | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
joining us at a moment of high drama. I have to ask you about going | :03:24. | :03:33. | |
back, not you personally, but the party going back to Westminster with | :03:34. | :03:39. | |
ten seats, you have added two on before, did you think in your | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
wildest dreams that you would get that result? It is a phenomenal | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
result. We had a sense that people were moving in our direction, that | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
our message of sending a strong team to Westminster, to register support | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
for the union, especially on the back of a disappointing Assembly | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
election, it was a wake-up call for many unionists and they have rallied | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
to the DUP. Some phenomenal results, to take the three Belfast seats, but | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
even away from that, if you go to places like West Tyrone, Mid Ulster | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
and Newry and Armagh, not seats we were likely to win, but we have | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
posted huge totals for our candidates. Alex Easton in North | :04:24. | :04:35. | |
Down. Alex represents a neighbouring constituency to mine in the | :04:36. | :04:42. | |
Assembly. It is an endorsement. We have a declaration for Fermanagh and | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
South Tyrone. The eligible electorate was 70,000 601. The votes | :04:49. | :05:01. | |
polled were 53,000 714. The valid votes were 53,000 488. The invalid | :05:02. | :05:13. | |
votes were 226. And the percentage turnout was 76.08%. I, Martin Fox, | :05:14. | :05:21. | |
as the deputy returning officer for the Fermanagh and South Tyrone | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
constituency hereby declare that at the election, the number of votes | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
for each candidate was as follows. Noreen Campbell, Alliance Party, | :05:31. | :05:40. | |
886. Tom Elliott, Ulster Unionist Party, 24,000 355. Mary Garrity, | :05:41. | :05:59. | |
SDLP, 2587. Michelle Gildernew, Sinn Fein, 25,000 200... | :06:00. | :06:00. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. That is 25,000 230. Tanya Jones, | :06:01. | :06:37. | |
Green Party, 423. I declare that Michelle Gildernew is returned to | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
serve in Parliament for the Fermanagh and South Tyrone | :06:42. | :06:56. | |
constituency. So, Michelle Gildernew has won Fermanagh South Tyrone for | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
Sinn Fein, taking the seat from the outgoing MP, Tom Elliott of the | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
Ulster Unionist Party. The DUP did not run a candidate. Quick bit of | :07:06. | :07:11. | |
mathematics, I think her majority is 875. I think that is right. We are | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
going to hear what she has to say. She has made her way quickly up to | :07:18. | :07:23. | |
the platform. Lots of Sinn Fein supporters are very pleased with the | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
result. I first of all want to thank Martin Fox and his staff here for | :07:28. | :07:33. | |
what has been a bruising year for the Omagh Electoral Office, two | :07:34. | :07:39. | |
elections in less than six months. A tough toll on all of our families. I | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
commend Martin Fox and his staff. I wanted, and the other candidates and | :07:45. | :07:50. | |
it was a very positive campaign and I know we tried to get our message | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
across that there was a lot of fear and anxiety, particularly about | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
Brexit and what it will mean for us here, not just the closure of border | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
rolls, tariffs and delays but potentially fracking and all sorts | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
of complications that we do not need. People did vote with their | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
hearts and heads and voted in huge numbers for Sinn Fein in this | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
election on the basis of the fear and anxiety that Brexit and a | :08:20. | :08:22. | |
referendum result has produced and also the anger that the failure to | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
accept the majority in favour of staying in Europe, that we have here | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
in the six counties. I want to also congratulate my other Sinn Fein | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
candidates, I cannot believe I am being returned to Westminster along | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
with Elisha McCallion. Brilliant, well done. We are also joined by | :08:44. | :08:55. | |
Chris Hazzard and I think that is seven. Who could forget, the main | :08:56. | :09:12. | |
man, Barry McElduff? I want to thank Jemma Dolan my election agent, I | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
want to thank Sean and all of the people. This campaign has been | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
characterised the amount of goodwill and support there is right across | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
Ireland. It was unprecedented and I will be spending the rest of my life | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
doing payback canvasses all over Ireland, because without you, we | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
could not have done will be dead and team Sinn Fein is a very proud | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
tonight and we are all each and everyone of us and equal part of | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
that team and I am proud and humbled to be here as part of Team Sinn Fein | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
tonight. I want to thank Michelle O'Neill for the part that she has | :09:52. | :09:52. | |
played. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. I want to | :09:53. | :10:06. | |
thank my family, Jimmy and the wee ones. Mummy and daddy, my entire | :10:07. | :10:13. | |
family, all of the people who were involved in this election, a special | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
mention to their cabin crew, because without you... | :10:21. | :10:30. | |
APPLAUSE. We polled 25,000... Something like that. But I want to | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
acknowledge the hundreds of people who applied and were not able to get | :10:36. | :10:40. | |
their postal vote and we have a lot of frustrated and angry people who | :10:41. | :10:45. | |
if we had lost the seat by a narrow margin would have blamed themselves | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
and that is not fair and we need to recognise that people, especially | :10:50. | :10:52. | |
here when people are working away from home at university or unwell, | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
we need to get a system that works for everyone because some of our | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
most vulnerable are sitting at home tonight worrying and here's their | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
vote was the one that did not get us over the line. For the hundreds of | :11:06. | :11:09. | |
people who missed out on a post or proxy vote, I want to thank you | :11:10. | :11:14. | |
because you tried your best. APPLAUSE. We have huge challenges | :11:15. | :11:25. | |
ahead, let us not be mistaken, I have not heard what is going on | :11:26. | :11:29. | |
across the water but Tory austerity is going to really impact upon the | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
most vulnerable people in our community and it is our job to work | :11:34. | :11:40. | |
on behalf of everyone, not just the working poor are other nonworking | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
prayer, but the most vulnerable. The people who are concerned about the | :11:44. | :11:49. | |
environment and jobs, pylons in Armagh, the lack of broadband, there | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
is still a lot of work to be done in this constituency, it will not be | :11:55. | :11:57. | |
easy over the next number of years, but I can tell you this, I and Team | :11:58. | :12:04. | |
Sinn Fein are up for the challenge and just before I finish. I was not | :12:05. | :12:11. | |
prepared to write anything down, just in case. I also want to give | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
special mention to the people who camped out in Fermanagh and South | :12:15. | :12:24. | |
Tyrone, because you know every corner of Fermanagh and South Tyrone | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
and you know all the challenges. I will think of something and wish I | :12:30. | :12:33. | |
had said it. I want to say, everybody, say, good night. | :12:34. | :12:40. | |
Michelle Gildernew obviously delighted to have won the seat back, | :12:41. | :12:51. | |
a majority of 875. Her vote was up on two years ago but so was Tom | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
Elliott's, who despite that has lost the seat. Hopefully we will hear | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
from him. We will stick with this for a moment or two more. Can anyone | :13:04. | :13:10. | |
see Tom Elliott? Maybe he's not going to speak. We will see, if he | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
pops up we will try and take it. Let's come back to my panel and we | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
have been joined by Danny Kennedy of the Ulster Unionist Party, so let's | :13:24. | :13:27. | |
go to you. Not the result you were hoping for. You had to seats at | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
Westminster, you lost Danny Kinahan earlier and that finishes off a | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
pretty wrong light for your party. We're very disappointed the loss of | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
John, disappointed for Tom and for the party, disappointed for unionism | :13:44. | :13:52. | |
and also in a funny way for the entire electorate Fermanagh and | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
South Tyrone because they now have no representation at Westminster. | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
But that's what a majority of people there voted for. That's part of the | :14:01. | :14:07. | |
democratic process but it is a matter of regret for me that in | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
constituencies mostly west of the barn there will be no | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
representation. That is a fact of life. What is the message to the | :14:17. | :14:26. | |
Ulster Unionist Party and the SDLP, no longer members of the House of | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
Commons, so no SDLP, no UUP, a stronger DUP and Sinn Fein, what | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
does that tell us? The backdrop to this election was an Assembly poll | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
in March and there has been a reaction in the unionist population | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
who have gravitated towards the larger unionist party. Because they | :14:48. | :14:54. | |
believed it could deliver for them. They believed they were potentially | :14:55. | :15:00. | |
a stronger force against the rise of Sinn Fein. That doesn't mean, with | :15:01. | :15:09. | |
respect to anybody, and end in my view to the Ulster Unionist Party. | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
We are still a significant presence in the Assembly where we are | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
potentially entitled to ministerial seats. We have considerable | :15:19. | :15:27. | |
representation in local councils and we will have to look again for a | :15:28. | :15:37. | |
better day but we have been squeezed and unbelievably in this election | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
and I congratulate the DUP. Alex Maskey, 24,355 people voted for Tom | :15:45. | :15:51. | |
Elliott in Fermanagh South Karen. They wanted someone to represent | :15:52. | :15:54. | |
them in discussions in Westminster to do with Brexit and other things, | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
how does Michelle Gildernew represent them? Michelle has done | :16:00. | :16:07. | |
effectively for a number of years, as an MP and MLA. She is part of | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
what we would call team Sinn Fein. We have 30 members of the Doyle and | :16:13. | :16:22. | |
seven senators. We are members of a state which the British Government | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
will have to negotiate their Brexit deal with, so I would rather have | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
representation in Dublin than in London, where the voices of MPs have | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
been ignored, so the lesson is that people in the nationalist community | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
and perhaps beyond have recognised the work Sinn Fein has been doing on | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
the ground, we have been an effective party giving leadership, | :16:46. | :16:51. | |
working with governments of all hues, whether Tory or British Labour | :16:52. | :16:58. | |
or Irish. You could be more effective if you took your seats in | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
Westminster. They just finished the last count of 18 seats and Sinn Fein | :17:05. | :17:11. | |
took another seat and Michelle Gildernew brought the last seat, all | :17:12. | :17:17. | |
our votes went up so the nationalist community have had a big debate in | :17:18. | :17:22. | |
this election, abstention probably featured more in this campaign than | :17:23. | :17:28. | |
others and Nationalists are not prepared to be treated as | :17:29. | :17:30. | |
second-class in the Assembly which is why we collapsed it and they are | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
not to sit in Westminster and be ignored, so Nationalists have turned | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
their back on Westminster and that is something people will have to | :17:42. | :17:47. | |
come to terms with. We have been joined now by the successful | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
candidate in Fermanagh South Tyrone, Michelle Gildernew, MP for Fermanagh | :17:53. | :17:58. | |
South Tyrone, so congratulations. You have tasted success before and | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
feet. How does it feel tonight or this morning? It's all very surreal. | :18:03. | :18:11. | |
The whole Westminster experience here at Omagh Leisure Centre is like | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
an out of body experience happening to somewhere else, so whether it's a | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
defeat for success, yet surreal and I am so proud and humbled to be part | :18:22. | :18:25. | |
of Sinn Fein and return to the Westminster seat, this historic seat | :18:26. | :18:31. | |
in Fermanagh South Tyrone with another six colleagues who are there | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
to fly the flag for Fermanagh South Tyrone and it is a huge honour. Some | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
people will say you were only half their because you don't properly | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
take your seat and those who voted for Tom Elliott, 24,355, I've just | :18:47. | :18:55. | |
been talking to Alex Maskey about this in the studio and I asked them | :18:56. | :19:00. | |
how you would represent those people who voted for Tom Elliott and to do | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
want someone to work to killing their views and their needs on the | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
floor of the chamber? What is your message to them? I want to welcome | :19:10. | :19:16. | |
Alex's comments, I got the tail end of it, he had no small part to play | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
in the 2010 election. I think we have to look at the 25,000 plus | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
people who voted Sinn Fein, the thousands of people who like Alex | :19:29. | :19:32. | |
said rejected the floor of the House politics. It is highly relevant and | :19:33. | :19:40. | |
very little of the business bike goes on at Westminster is relevance | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
to us. We need a strong voice for everyone and nobody has a better | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
track record of representing everyone in Fermanagh South Tyrone | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
than I have, so I will represent the people who voted for Tom and also | :19:56. | :20:02. | |
for the SDLP and Alliance, but we have to send a strong message not | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
just to London to Belfast, Dublin and Brussels that we have a voice | :20:09. | :20:13. | |
that needs to be listened to and the people have spoken in their | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
thousands, they have rejected the idea Brexit and the notion of what | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
it means to people here. There are almost 300 water crossings, many in | :20:23. | :20:29. | |
Fermanagh South Tyrone and I cannot comprehend what it would mean if | :20:30. | :20:32. | |
they read four to five border were to pop-up around my constituency and | :20:33. | :20:39. | |
the untold damage it would do to people's lives so we have a strong | :20:40. | :20:45. | |
mandate. Congratulations, good to talk to you, I imagine there will be | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
a party in Omagh so I don't want to keep you back. A lot of people | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
waiting to shake your hand. I will come to the panel again in the | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
moment but before I do, one declaration we haven't seen his | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
Newry and Armagh, Mickey Brady held onto the seat for Sinn Fein. It was | :21:07. | :21:11. | |
happening while a rush of other seats were being declared so let's | :21:12. | :21:17. | |
look at the figures as they were announced for the Newry and Armagh | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
seek a short time ago. I is deputy returning officer for Newry and | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
Armagh I hereby declare that at the election the number of votes for | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
each candidate was as followed. Mickey Brady, Sinn Fein, 25,000 666. | :21:35. | :21:45. | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Jackie Coade, Alliance Party, 1256. | :21:46. | :22:04. | |
William Irwin, DUP, 13100 and 77. CHEERING AND APPLAUSE. Justin | :22:05. | :22:28. | |
McNulty, SDLP, 9055. Sam Nicholson, UUP, 4425. I declare that Mickey | :22:29. | :22:39. | |
Brady is returned to serve in Parliament for the Newry and South | :22:40. | :22:47. | |
Armagh constituency. Thank you. Success is therefore a Mickey Brady | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
and a warm embrace from Conor Murphy, who served as the attempt he | :22:52. | :23:00. | |
there be for Mr Brady took over. We say congratulations to Mickey Brady, | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
all 18 seats down declared in Northern Ireland. A couple of bits | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
of news, Nick Clegg, the former Lib Dem leader has lost his seat, Home | :23:13. | :23:17. | |
Secretary Amber Rudd is currently engaged in a recount and we have | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
just had a notification in the last couple of seconds that Alex Salmond, | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
Ford dealer of the SNP, has lost his seat, he is out so something names | :23:28. | :23:34. | |
are losing their seats in Westminster tonight. We will pick up | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
on a bit of that with my panel shortly but before we do any more of | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
that, let's get another look at the picture here and across the water | :23:46. | :23:47. | |
from Mark Simpson. Thank you. It's been a long night, | :23:48. | :23:57. | |
just look at that time, 4:30am but here in our virtual Westminster, how | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
interesting will it be easier in the next couple of weeks? If we look at | :24:02. | :24:10. | |
England, there is a lot of blue but not the sea of blue that Theresa May | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
expected. Let's look at the scores on the doors. The Conservatives are | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
ahead but they are well short as things stand, of 326, the Magic | :24:21. | :24:27. | |
number where they would be sure of an overall majority, the latest | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
forecast is that they will be short so we could have a hung parliament, | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
which brings the DUP into play. Let's look at Northern Ireland. If | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
anything tells the story of the night, it's what you were looking | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
at, a sea of Green west of the band, Sinn Fein, a sea of red East of the | :24:48. | :24:59. | |
river ban for DUP and North towel being held by Sylvia Hermon. There | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
is the DUP on top, tempted, they only got eight last time, Sinn Fein | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
with seven seats, they only got four last time and Sylvia Hermon holding | :25:11. | :25:18. | |
on in North Down. Five new faces in Westminster, not all of them taking | :25:19. | :25:22. | |
their seats but one new face will be in Foyle, Elisha McCallion in Foyle. | :25:23. | :25:30. | |
Sinn Fein have taken the seat of the SDLP, only a small majority but it | :25:31. | :25:36. | |
was enough to take the seat of the former SDLP leader Mark Durkan. | :25:37. | :25:42. | |
Moving over, we can see another new face who will take place in | :25:43. | :25:46. | |
Westminster, Emma Little Pengelly in South Belfast, again lost by the | :25:47. | :25:53. | |
SDLP but this time it was the DUP taking advantage. A real pattern has | :25:54. | :26:00. | |
emerged to night, a real 2-party Northern Ireland with the DUP | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
dominating one side of the river ban, Sinn Fein dominating the other, | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
that's the story of the night and well done to the counters, we have | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
all 18 seats counted and it's not even five a.m.. | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
They have had a busy night, as have we. It is flashed up that Kate how | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
we, from Belfast, the MP for Vauxhall, has held her seat. She was | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
in our fight for that and it looked like she may be in difficulty, I | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
don't know what happened in the current but in the run-up there was | :26:37. | :26:41. | |
speculation she might lose it but she has held her seat. I will come | :26:42. | :26:46. | |
back to my panel for proper discussion and we will bring things | :26:47. | :26:50. | |
to a close in the next ten minutes or thereabouts, but let's hear more | :26:51. | :26:57. | |
analysis and number crunching from Mark Davenport and Nicholas Whyte in | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
our results hub. During this campaign we had talked | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
about whether there should be our border poll in the future. To some | :27:07. | :27:11. | |
extent it that like we had a mini border poll with voters rushing to | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
the two big parties, there we have what Mark has been telling us, the | :27:17. | :27:23. | |
DUP with ten, Sinn Fein with seven and only Sylvia Hermon surviving but | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
let's look at the vote share and the percentages and talk me through | :27:29. | :27:29. | |
this. This is the best result ever in | :27:30. | :27:44. | |
terms of vote share. . It is the worst result ever for both the SDLP | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
and the Ulster Unionists. Do you see this as the endgame for them? They | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
will have to think about their future strategy. The SDLP 20 years | :27:55. | :28:01. | |
ago was getting the same number of votes as Sinn Fein. Look at the | :28:02. | :28:08. | |
change here. This is a remarkable result for both of the big parties | :28:09. | :28:14. | |
but in raw numbers, the DUP outdid the E in Paisley results of many | :28:15. | :28:19. | |
years ago when he was standing as an MEP. In every seat with the DUP were | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
standing, Sinn Fein added more voters who have never voted before. | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
These columns do not tell the entire story. We are seeing votes, people | :28:32. | :28:41. | |
who voted in the Assembly election, and it has come out at least as much | :28:42. | :28:48. | |
for the DUP as Sinn Fein. Let us look at the swings on both side. | :28:49. | :28:56. | |
Unionism first, a whopping eight percentage swing for the Ulster | :28:57. | :29:02. | |
Unionist to the DUP. There are a couple of cases that contributed to | :29:03. | :29:09. | |
this including Newry and Armagh. We can do the same again, as similar | :29:10. | :29:15. | |
story, Leicester Matic in percentage terms but more dramatic in terms of | :29:16. | :29:20. | |
seats. Part of the problem here is that the SDLP has been squeezed | :29:21. | :29:25. | |
pretty tightly and remained strong in south Belfast and South down. | :29:26. | :29:32. | |
They have been wiped out. Looking again at the graph of how these | :29:33. | :29:43. | |
major parties are standing, just finally, we will look at who is Top | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
of the Pops across Northern Ireland, our five poll toppers, there are | :29:50. | :29:56. | |
from the DUP and Sinn Fein. Ian Paisley taking the number one. There | :29:57. | :30:05. | |
is some change, there is the top five. Thank you very much. I | :30:06. | :30:13. | |
mentioned that Kate wholewheat has held onto her seat in Vauxhall and | :30:14. | :30:21. | |
then all of a sudden, Kate has popped up and I can talk to her. She | :30:22. | :30:27. | |
is at the Cannes centre in Lambeth. Good evening and congratulations. I | :30:28. | :30:31. | |
was talking about your couple of minutes ago. There was a lot of chat | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
about you been under pressure but I think you will be pleased with those | :30:36. | :30:37. | |
numbers. Completely got a huge big increase | :30:38. | :30:51. | |
in my majority that was good. We fought a positive campaign, one | :30:52. | :30:59. | |
party fought and nasty campaign. The people of Vauxhall came out in their | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
thousands, particularly a lot of young people and I got a really good | :31:04. | :31:07. | |
majority and I am delighted because it was a positive message that we | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
were putting forward. Both locally and with the Labour manifesto. Just | :31:12. | :31:17. | |
to be clear, I do not want to pick through the details, but just for | :31:18. | :31:20. | |
the benefit of people who do not know, you were supportive of Brexit | :31:21. | :31:27. | |
and the Liberal Democrats were mounting a campaign to try and | :31:28. | :31:30. | |
unseat you because they disagreed with you. You saw them off. Did you | :31:31. | :31:38. | |
feel vulnerable? No, what I found sad this time is I have always had | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
good campaigns were people get on well and we have differences on | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
policies, but this time the Liberal Democrats did have a personalised | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
target. They felt that everyone who voted Remain in Lambeth, that | :31:53. | :31:57. | |
somehow they would all want a second referendum and vote Liberal Democrat | :31:58. | :32:01. | |
and that did not happen. They are spent us by about six times what we | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
spent and they brought in all sorts of people. They brought in Nick | :32:07. | :32:09. | |
Clegg and I thought if he had spent more time in his own constituency, | :32:10. | :32:15. | |
he might not have lost his seat. They also brought in Bob Geldof and | :32:16. | :32:21. | |
all these Remain star is and the people in my area, Labour voters and | :32:22. | :32:26. | |
supporters and people who never voted Labour before came out and | :32:27. | :32:29. | |
voted for me and I was delighted. It shows that most people want to get | :32:30. | :32:34. | |
on with just getting a good deal now and do not want a second referendum. | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
Many congratulations, good to talk to you. I did not realise you were | :32:40. | :32:45. | |
counting your votes, I thought you always did at the next day. We have | :32:46. | :32:52. | |
moved with the times. I am out of date. We stay up all night, just | :32:53. | :32:59. | |
like you. You're looking very well, a lot better than some of the people | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
around my table. Danny Kennedy, congratulations. I will have to miss | :33:06. | :33:11. | |
the Azerbaijan match. That was a pity. I will let you go and | :33:12. | :33:17. | |
celebrate. Thank you very much. Lovely to talk to you. We are | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
bringing the programme to a close in about five minutes. Very quickly, | :33:23. | :33:28. | |
Simon, you have an increased mandate and so do Sinn Fein, does that give | :33:29. | :33:33. | |
you a mandate now to do a deal as far as Northern Ireland are | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
concerned? We went into this election and said to the people of | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
Northern Ireland that we wanted them to vote for us not just to return a | :33:41. | :33:44. | |
strong team to Westminster, or register their support for the union | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
but to strengthen our hand to enter negotiations commencing next week. | :33:50. | :33:53. | |
We still want to have devolution up and running, and the message coming | :33:54. | :34:01. | |
back on the doors, they wanted to see us get back onto the right track | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
after disappointing result in March but they did want to see devolution | :34:06. | :34:13. | |
up and running. Alex, quick thought? I think it is important that we try | :34:14. | :34:18. | |
to knuckle down and get the institutions re-establish. Whatever | :34:19. | :34:22. | |
result there is at Westminster, it will be constrained to work within | :34:23. | :34:24. | |
the Good Friday Agreement and that is something that is immovable. The | :34:25. | :34:31. | |
question of who would be First Minister has not arisen, there was a | :34:32. | :34:33. | |
possibility that Sinn Fein could take it, but would the DUP have been | :34:34. | :34:41. | |
prepared for second place? That map shows that Sinn Fein hold every | :34:42. | :34:48. | |
border seat. The importance of Brexit on their national psyche is | :34:49. | :34:57. | |
clearly underscored by that. I think the outcome of this election is less | :34:58. | :35:03. | |
likely to get a deal at Stormont because of the uncertainty in the | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
national budget. Thank you all very much for your forbearance. A | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
fascinating few hours. It has been a roller-coaster six hours, the SDLP | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
and the UUP have lost all their MPs, the DUP have ten seats, to more than | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
last time, seven Seas for Sinn Fein, to more than last time with big wins | :35:23. | :35:29. | |
in Foyle and South Down and the retaking of Fermanagh and South | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
Tyrone. Theresa May faces some big questions over the next few hours | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
and it looks as if she has failed to secure any sort of useful majority | :35:38. | :35:40. | |
in the Commons. Who would have thought that when she called this | :35:41. | :35:44. | |
election on Easter Tuesday? Plenty to talk about in the days and weeks | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
ahead, from all of us, thank you for your company and have a very good | :35:49. | :35:52. | |
morning. From all of us, goodbye. To the DUP candidate, Alex Easton, | :35:53. | :36:22. | |
you have done terrifically well, but I have one. To be called po-faced by | :36:23. | :36:32. | |
Northern Aaron's answer to Jerry Mita and... Unionism has at wake up | :36:33. | :36:41. | |
-- Northern Ireland's answer to Jeremy Paxman. When you lose, you | :36:42. | :36:47. | |
find out a lot about yourself. Keep counting the votes. | :36:48. | :37:03. | |
We are certainly witnessing history. Thinking about how people like John | :37:04. | :37:15. | |
and Patsy taken the sort of results. -- like John and Pat Hume. Martin, | :37:16. | :37:18. | |
we did this for you. seat for Labour. One more which | :37:19. | :37:43. | |
again suggests what we were saying about Ruth Davidson in Scotland, who | :37:44. | :37:48. | |
is emerging as the real bright spark of the Conservatives tonight. 48% to | :37:49. | :37:57. | |
is emerging as the real bright spark 39%, Conservative gain in the Cedar | :37:58. | :38:01. | |
Banff and Buchan. Alex Salmond held this EP Fourie became leader and | :38:02. | :38:12. | |
went on to hold the seat of Gordon. We have seen all the drama of the | :38:13. | :38:19. | |
swing in the Tory gains. This is the biggest one we have seen tonight. | :38:20. | :38:22. | |
20% from the SNP to the Conservatives. You can see why | :38:23. | :38:27. | |
Nicola Sturgeon were starting to sound less sure about the position | :38:28. | :38:33. | |
of independence for Scotland. We have a result coming in. Laura, you | :38:34. | :38:38. | |
want to say something. Iain Duncan Smith is waiting with Michelle | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
Hossain. After that very clear call from the former minister, Anna | :38:44. | :38:53. | |
Soubry, ... Let's interrupt you. This is held by Simon Kirby, the | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
Conservatives. Doktor Haze, independent, 212. Simon | :38:58. | :39:05. | |
Kirby, Conservative Party, 18,000 -- 18 835. Lloyd Russell-Moyle, Labour | :39:06. | :39:16. | |
party, 28,000 703. Emily Louise tester, Liberal Democrat, 1457. A | :39:17. | :39:26. | |
pretty sensational victory for Labour in Brighton Kemptown. Simon | :39:27. | :39:29. | |
Kirby defeated by something like a majority of nearly 10,000. That is | :39:30. | :39:36. | |
another minister gone. We have seen ministers go to night. I was just | :39:37. | :39:41. | |
saying before we went to the result, there is clearly turmoil inside the | :39:42. | :39:44. | |
Tory ranks. We heard Anna Soubry essentially calling Theresa May to | :39:45. | :39:51. | |
go. Consider your position. That is cold for summary should leave. | :39:52. | :39:54. | |
Another Tory source has just told me that Theresa May is 50-50 to go | :39:55. | :40:01. | |
tomorrow. One source, I stress, but a good source. Another minister has | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
just messaged me saying, as William Hague said, the Tory party is | :40:09. | :40:14. | |
absolute monarchy registered by regicide. That is the territory we | :40:15. | :40:20. | |
are now in. They are ruthless. The thing with Theresa May is, if | :40:21. | :40:24. | |
somebody looks like a loser, it even though she is on course to be the | :40:25. | :40:28. | |
biggest party, the Tories are ruthless if a leader looks like they | :40:29. | :40:32. | |
can't deliver. There is clearly a lot of turmoil. I will not make any | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
firm predictions about what she may do. She is meeting with her advisers | :40:38. | :40:43. | |
right now. Michelle Hossain is upstairs. | :40:44. | :40:52. | |
Iain Duncan Smith this year. As is a former Labour Party adviser. Should | :40:53. | :40:56. | |
you consider her position? It would be a grave error to suddenly going | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
into the turmoil after the result. We need some stability right now. We | :41:03. | :41:07. | |
have to figure out what the final result is and then, can we lead a | :41:08. | :41:13. | |
government, that is the critical question to ask. These things have | :41:14. | :41:17. | |
to be decided. You can't say you are going to have a leadership election. | :41:18. | :41:20. | |
That would plunge everything into turmoil. Are you saying she should | :41:21. | :41:26. | |
have a period of time and then she could step down? No. I am saying | :41:27. | :41:31. | |
that we need to make that might find it for the result is. Whether it is | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
feasible to put the government together. We don't know that yet. We | :41:37. | :41:40. | |
don't know the final result. If that is feasible, then that changes the | :41:41. | :41:48. | |
complexion of what we are dealing with. And then the party has to | :41:49. | :41:52. | |
meet, they have to talk to her and decide whether this is what she | :41:53. | :41:56. | |
wants to do. And if she does, frankly, we need that stability. I | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
am not in favour of launching these kind of off the cuff vendettas. I | :42:01. | :42:04. | |
think the truth is we need to stay calm and stable. It can't be | :42:05. | :42:11. | |
business as usual, can it? People must be annoyed you have ended up in | :42:12. | :42:16. | |
this position. It is clearly not going to be business as usual. The | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
irony is this result is full of peculiar things. Poll rating has | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
gone up but we have got the worst result. People like me have had | :42:26. | :42:29. | |
higher vote shares but a smaller majority. We have lost colleagues | :42:30. | :42:34. | |
around the country. Of course there is turmoil. But the key point here | :42:35. | :42:38. | |
is the next 24-hour is we need stability. But we don't want is any | :42:39. | :42:45. | |
kind of rush to say change, leave, let's see with the results are and | :42:46. | :42:46. | |
whether we can form the Gutman. Ayesha Hazarika, in 2015 the Labour | :42:47. | :42:57. | |
vote share was 30%. Jeremy Corbyn has achieved over 40%. It has been | :42:58. | :43:03. | |
an extraordinary night for Labour. I think there were Labour MPs up and | :43:04. | :43:06. | |
down the country wondering if they would survive the night. Jeremy | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
Corbyn ran the opposite of the Theresa May campaign. It was open | :43:12. | :43:17. | |
and full of hope and popular, and he was visible. It is incredible that | :43:18. | :43:21. | |
we are in this situation. Theresa May called this election and was 20 | :43:22. | :43:26. | |
points ahead in the polls. She called it on leadership and now we | :43:27. | :43:29. | |
are having conversations about whether she will still be around in | :43:30. | :43:34. | |
the morning. In February, you said the only way Jeremy Corbyn could | :43:35. | :43:37. | |
save the Labour Party was by stepping down. I completely got it | :43:38. | :43:44. | |
wrong, along with a lot of people. But what he has done brilliantly is | :43:45. | :43:49. | |
for people hope. This country has been sick of seven years of | :43:50. | :43:53. | |
austerity rule, and they wanted a change. They wanted somebody to | :43:54. | :44:00. | |
offer them hope. Credit where credit is due, I hold my hands up and say I | :44:01. | :44:03. | |
was one of the people who got it wrong. The Labour manifesto as well, | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
particularly in contrasts of the Tory manifesto, which didn't offer | :44:09. | :44:14. | |
anything and was a shambolic U-turn on the dementia tax. Was it a | :44:15. | :44:21. | |
dreadful campaign? It clearly wasn't the greatest campaign, or we would | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
be in a different position now. The key element is that there will be | :44:26. | :44:28. | |
time for my party to have a look through what didn't go right and | :44:29. | :44:38. | |
what went wrong. Theresa May, having gone into the election, found her | :44:39. | :44:48. | |
position diminished. Right now, all my colleagues need to just take a | :44:49. | :44:53. | |
deep breath and not go on the media. They need to keep quiet until we | :44:54. | :44:57. | |
have figured out where we are. The oldest rule in the book is, no way | :44:58. | :45:03. | |
your starting point is. I want Theresa May to stay for that reason. | :45:04. | :45:08. | |
Do you fear that Brexit may not be delivered, or not the sort of Brexit | :45:09. | :45:14. | |
you would like? I just want Brexit. We will see what that means. The | :45:15. | :45:17. | |
Labour Party has already said they were signed up to Brexit. The Labour | :45:18. | :45:25. | |
Party position has been good on Brexit, but it is extraordinary to | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
think that she started this whole campaign saying "My leadership will | :45:30. | :45:33. | |
be strong and stable", and she is the one now facing leadership | :45:34. | :45:37. | |
challenges. She has had a stinker of a campaign. It happens. Nothing is | :45:38. | :45:43. | |
perfect, but I do want stability and I want her to stay. You want | :45:44. | :45:50. | |
something strong and stable. I will just settle for stability right now. | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
She remains Prime Minister and the country has to come first. For | :45:56. | :46:04. | |
anyone watching, if you are Prime Minister, stay put and then we can | :46:05. | :46:08. | |
figure out what our position is. Iain Duncan Smith and Ayesha | :46:09. | :46:12. | |
Hazarika, thank you. We are joined now from stricken by | :46:13. | :46:16. | |
Chuka Umunna, one of those who were rather critical of the leadership of | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
Jeremy Corbyn and indeed voted him out. Congratulations on your | :46:22. | :46:28. | |
victory, first of all. Your vote went up by 12,000 or something. But | :46:29. | :46:32. | |
let's cut to the chase. What do you make of what has happened? You and | :46:33. | :46:36. | |
many others misjudged Jeremy Corbyn, didn't you? First of all, the Prime | :46:37. | :46:46. | |
Minister held this election for naked party political reasons. It | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
was opportunism writ large, and she wanted a personal mandate to pursue | :46:51. | :46:55. | |
an extremely job destroying Brexit. And she has been denied that. I am | :46:56. | :47:00. | |
delighted about that. Let's be frank about the reason she has been denied | :47:01. | :47:06. | |
that. It isn't just that she ran a terrible campaign and clearly is not | :47:07. | :47:13. | |
up to campaigning by being with people and talking to them about the | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
issues, whereas Jeremy is absolutely at home campaigning, talking to | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
people, getting involved in the debate. But the reason why many | :47:22. | :47:29. | |
people will have changed their minds, the reason I voted no | :47:30. | :47:33. | |
confidence last year was that I was angry because I felt we could have | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
done more to ensure that we got a Remain vote in that referendum. But | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
the effect of Jeremy running this kind of campaign, positive, | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
optimistic, dynamic, engaging young people, putting forward policies, we | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
saw looked loved that from the Tories and as ie she just said, the | :47:51. | :47:53. | |
one big thing people will remember about the Tory manifesto is the | :47:54. | :47:57. | |
dementia tax. But the effect of actually putting forward this agenda | :47:58. | :48:03. | |
has thwarted Theresa May's attempts to pursue a hard Brexit. I give | :48:04. | :48:09. | |
Jeremy and the entire Labour team full credit for that, because it was | :48:10. | :48:14. | |
a solid, good national campaign and we have amazing local operations. I | :48:15. | :48:19. | |
temper this just by making this observation, which is that the | :48:20. | :48:23. | |
Labour Party was founded 117 years ago by Keir Hardie and others, not | :48:24. | :48:27. | |
only to be the representative of workers in parliament, but to govern | :48:28. | :48:30. | |
in their interests too. We don't know what will happen because we | :48:31. | :48:35. | |
don't know the final numbers or whether Labour will be part of | :48:36. | :48:39. | |
whatever comes out of this. But it is a positive step forward to | :48:40. | :48:43. | |
government today. Ultimately, we must get into government in the | :48:44. | :48:54. | |
future to make our values real. If you were now offered a position back | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
in the Shadow Cabinet, assuming it is still a Shadow Cabinet, would you | :48:59. | :49:04. | |
accept it? I have never been asked to serve in the Shadow Cabinet under | :49:05. | :49:09. | |
Jeremy before. But I want to get Labour back into government. I can | :49:10. | :49:17. | |
work in any way to make that happen. I would not rule out being part of a | :49:18. | :49:23. | |
Shadow Cabinet if I was asked. I don't presume that I will be asked, | :49:24. | :49:28. | |
but I intend to play a full role in making sure we do what we need to do | :49:29. | :49:36. | |
to deliver on our values. My guess is that you began this campaign | :49:37. | :49:40. | |
thinking that at the end of it, there might be a vacancy for the | :49:41. | :49:45. | |
leadership of the Labour Party, and that has now been postponed. I | :49:46. | :49:53. | |
wouldn't describe it as my dream. I did not dream of having the majority | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
that Labour activists have just secured here in Streatham. My wife | :49:58. | :50:01. | |
was here with me earlier and she asked me at the beginning of the | :50:02. | :50:03. | |
campaign not to make any predictions, because she said before | :50:04. | :50:06. | |
the last general election, you thought Labour would end up in | :50:07. | :50:10. | |
government and you didn't. You thought the Remain side would win | :50:11. | :50:13. | |
the EU referendum campaign, and then you assured me we wouldn't see a | :50:14. | :50:17. | |
president Donald Trump and we do. She said, I am not going to believe | :50:18. | :50:20. | |
predictions from you and I don't think you make any. For the start of | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
this campaign, I went on the Daily Politics and other programmes and | :50:25. | :50:28. | |
people ask, do you think Labour will win? And I have said, anything is | :50:29. | :50:37. | |
possible. What this illustrates is... Chuka Umunna, thank you much. | :50:38. | :50:43. | |
I want to hear the result from Hastings and see whether Amber Rudd | :50:44. | :50:52. | |
has held on. Liberal Democrats, 1885. Michael Sheridan Phillips, | :50:53. | :50:59. | |
Ukip, 1479. Amber Rudd, the Conservative Party candidate, 25668. | :51:00. | :51:13. | |
Nicholas John Wilson, independent, 412. The total number of ballot | :51:14. | :51:19. | |
papers rejected was 97. The turnout was 70%. Therefore, I give public | :51:20. | :51:23. | |
notice that Amber Rudd is duly elected as the member of Parliament | :51:24. | :51:25. | |
for the Hastings and write constituency. So the Home Secretary | :51:26. | :51:32. | |
holds onto her seat. There was talk that it would be difficult for her, | :51:33. | :51:39. | |
but she holds on. I would like to thank the returning officer and the | :51:40. | :51:42. | |
fantastic counting agents who have done the job twice this evening. We | :51:43. | :51:46. | |
are grateful to you for staying late and doing a professional job. I | :51:47. | :51:52. | |
would also like to thank my team who have done a fantastic job supporting | :51:53. | :51:57. | |
me and making sure we had a good turnout on the day. I would | :51:58. | :52:01. | |
particularly like to thank the Labour candidate, who I know well | :52:02. | :52:06. | |
and I am sure will continue in his role as leader of the council. Thank | :52:07. | :52:11. | |
you for a fair fight. I am deeply honoured to have been re-elected for | :52:12. | :52:18. | |
now for the third time by the residents of Hastings and Rye. This | :52:19. | :52:23. | |
is a fantastic place to live and work and I hope I will continue to | :52:24. | :52:27. | |
build on the great opportunities and the great regeneration that has been | :52:28. | :52:32. | |
taking place in this area, improving our schools, improving our NHS and | :52:33. | :52:35. | |
getting the infrastructure investment that we need. This is | :52:36. | :52:39. | |
what matters to me and this is what I hope to continue to deliver for | :52:40. | :52:44. | |
the fantastic constituency of Hastings and Rye. So Amber Rudd, | :52:45. | :52:55. | |
with the seagulls behind her. She was generally seen to have had a | :52:56. | :52:59. | |
good campaign. Is there a possibility that she might be in the | :53:00. | :53:03. | |
line for becoming leader of the Conservative Party? She has been | :53:04. | :53:11. | |
talked about. But having had such a narrow result and having been a big | :53:12. | :53:15. | |
part of a campaign that is judged to be a disaster, it looks harder for | :53:16. | :53:18. | |
her now than it would have done a couple of weeks ago. At that time, | :53:19. | :53:25. | |
she would have been top of the list. She was widely tipped to be Theresa | :53:26. | :53:32. | |
May's next Chancellor if Theresa May ends up staying on. She was | :53:33. | :53:40. | |
certainly considered as a potential leadership candidate in the future. | :53:41. | :53:44. | |
But I wonder whether her judgment on this campaign and her role in it | :53:45. | :53:54. | |
makes that less likely. She was the Prime Minister's understudy and she | :53:55. | :53:59. | |
is a formidable character. She is a Remainer, but widely respected. | :54:00. | :54:07. | |
Let's see what Nigel Farage has been up to in the last couple of hours. | :54:08. | :54:14. | |
He has stormed back into the political conversation. In a sense, | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
he never went away, but with Paul Nuttall as the leader of Ukip having | :54:18. | :54:21. | |
a bad result, Nigel Farage has been vocal. He said tonight that Article | :54:22. | :54:26. | |
50 had been triggered and we were on our way. May has put this in | :54:27. | :54:29. | |
jeopardy. Even David Davis is now making Brexit concessions. There is | :54:30. | :54:35. | |
a clear mood developing from lots of people who were fervent Brexiteers, | :54:36. | :54:39. | |
including Iain Duncan Smith, that they are annoyed at what is | :54:40. | :54:42. | |
happening. That is Nigel Farage's quote. Paddy Ashdown has also | :54:43. | :54:46. | |
weighed in on the issue of Brexit. The former Lib Dem leader says if | :54:47. | :54:51. | |
this election was about Brexit, must we not conclude that Britain has | :54:52. | :54:56. | |
rejected Mrs May's hard Brexit? So there are lots of people on inside | :54:57. | :54:59. | |
of the Brexit camp trying to use this result is a way of casting | :55:00. | :55:04. | |
judgment on the Brexit referendum of 2016. Chris Evans, editor of the | :55:05. | :55:09. | |
Daily Telegraph, is also talking about the softening of Brexit. He | :55:10. | :55:13. | |
says the DUP are already outlining terms for a soft Brexit as the price | :55:14. | :55:17. | |
for propping up the Tories. And the Financial Times says it is almost as | :55:18. | :55:23. | |
if Theresa May looked at Hillary's campaign and said, let's do that. | :55:24. | :55:32. | |
That is as cruel as you can get. Here is the latest Daily Mail front | :55:33. | :55:38. | |
page. Theresa May of course had huge support from most of the British | :55:39. | :55:45. | |
press. One of her main spin doctors is a former Daily Mail political | :55:46. | :55:49. | |
editor. They are very disappointed at the result. And they say there | :55:50. | :55:57. | |
are fears of Brexit chaos. Emily, another result? Look at Enfield | :55:58. | :56:06. | |
Southgate. This was where we had the Portillo moment in 1997 and you can | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
see what has happened. It has been a Labour gain from the Conservatives | :56:11. | :56:17. | |
again. In Portillo's day, there was a 15,000 majority. Labour has taken | :56:18. | :56:24. | |
it on a 4000 majority. Come back to me! Have a glass of water. That is a | :56:25. | :56:32. | |
fascinating seat. It is outer London, not in London, where you | :56:33. | :56:37. | |
have lots of students and very trendy left. Enfield Southgate is | :56:38. | :56:40. | |
not the home of the trendy Islington left. Enfield Southgate is a sort of | :56:41. | :56:47. | |
Middle Britain seat that happens to be in the south-east. And there we | :56:48. | :56:51. | |
see a big Labour gain. At the beginning of the night, we never | :56:52. | :56:54. | |
would have thought we would see that kind of swing. Let me pick up here. | :56:55. | :57:02. | |
Don't choke to death this time. Sangakkara it is the excitement of | :57:03. | :57:06. | |
the night, or maybe a stray blueberry. 9.7% swing from the | :57:07. | :57:09. | |
Conservatives to Labour in this seat, which really was a moment in | :57:10. | :57:13. | |
1997. We are looking at places that Blair | :57:14. | :57:24. | |
won for the first time. Some of these are on the chart for the first | :57:25. | :57:28. | |
time since then. It is extraordinary to think of these different | :57:29. | :57:33. | |
characters, Tony Blair and Jeremy Corbyn, but to see the same kind of | :57:34. | :57:37. | |
places cropping up. The next one is Keighley. Again, quite far down the | :57:38. | :57:44. | |
Labour targets. It is a neck and neck vote between the Labour Party | :57:45. | :57:49. | |
and the Conservatives, but enough for a Labour to gain it. A big drop | :57:50. | :57:55. | |
in the Ukip vote. They needed a 3.1% swing. You can see what has | :57:56. | :58:00. | |
happened. They have taken it, just, on a 3.3% swing. Some quite | :58:01. | :58:05. | |
interesting ones. Derbyshire Northeast has been a gain for the | :58:06. | :58:09. | |
Conservatives. It was 18 on their list. Lee Rowley pushing out | :58:10. | :58:14. | |
Natascha Engel, quite a well-known name for Labour. You can see a 4.8% | :58:15. | :58:22. | |
swing from Labour to the Conservatives. That is the seat just | :58:23. | :58:28. | |
outside Chesterfield. Broadly the kind of seats we are seeing turned | :58:29. | :58:32. | |
red to are ones that very few people would have had on any kind of | :58:33. | :58:36. | |
rational target list at the beginning of the night. They are | :58:37. | :58:40. | |
places taking a lot of us by surprise. | :58:41. | :58:45. | |
John Woodcock is the Labour MP for Barrow and Furness. His majority, | :58:46. | :58:50. | |
squeaking in at 209. A special adviser to Gordon Brown. Everybody | :58:51. | :58:55. | |
is having their words thrown back at them tonight. Words I want to throw | :58:56. | :59:01. | |
baguette you are, Labour is on course for an historic and | :59:02. | :59:05. | |
catastrophic defeat. So what went right for Labour?! | :59:06. | :59:14. | |
Well, David I have no idea! And I'm not sure anyone who you will have on | :59:15. | :59:18. | |
this programme actually genuinely has an idea either. And if they say | :59:19. | :59:22. | |
that they do, I think they are probably winging it. There have been | :59:23. | :59:29. | |
utterly extraordinary results. In places where Labour has struggled, | :59:30. | :59:36. | |
we have gained ground. In Canterbury we have produced an incredible | :59:37. | :59:41. | |
victory out of nowhere. I don't know what is going on in British | :59:42. | :59:45. | |
politics. I think the one thing which is clear is that this is wide | :59:46. | :59:53. | |
open. There is a space and there is a need for a progressive force to | :59:54. | :59:58. | |
take the country forward and give them more hope than that which has | :59:59. | :00:05. | |
been said over these last couple of years by the Conservative | :00:06. | :00:10. | |
government. And that force we have shown overnight can be the Labour | :00:11. | :00:16. | |
Party. I am deeply, deeply proud. Unexpectedly, I have to say. But I | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
am deeply proud to be returned as one of their MPs. Can you sign up to | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
the kind of policies that Jeremy Corbyn has been promoting, when you | :00:27. | :00:32. | |
actually clearly thought they were completely wrong, wrong for the | :00:33. | :00:35. | |
Labour Party, but much more importantly, wrong for the country? | :00:36. | :00:40. | |
Well, the Labour Party has always been a Broadchurch. And probably | :00:41. | :00:47. | |
never broader than it has been at the moment. One of the things which | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
gave me so much heart locally was the way that local party members who | :00:53. | :01:02. | |
were deeply aggrieved by what I said about the leader, they all came | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
together in this campaign to get us over the line and to keep a Labour | :01:07. | :01:14. | |
MP, to keep me here. And that shows, actually, that we can unite and | :01:15. | :01:18. | |
there will be a huge question, of course, for the party as to what | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
direction we take. What vision we put forward. But this result shows | :01:22. | :01:28. | |
that we can do it. Actually, there is not the appetite in this country | :01:29. | :01:34. | |
for the paucity of vision, the lack of hope, the doing down of our | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
country, that we have seen from this Conservative government over the | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
last couple of years. People want change. And we have an opportunity | :01:43. | :01:46. | |
to provide that. And that is brilliant. Thank you bring much | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
indeed. It is time for another update on the news. Let's have that | :01:52. | :02:00. | |
with the forecast of the moment showing... We can show it? We can't. | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
I don't know if we can or not. Can we show the forecast, they are | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
asking? I don't know. They haven't got it. We haven't got the forecast. | :02:11. | :02:17. | |
We have the news. Good morning. With less than 50 | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
seats still to be declared, the outcome of the general election is | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
still uncertain. Labour has done better-than-expected. Although the | :02:29. | :02:31. | |
Conservatives looked like being the biggest party, they are not likely | :02:32. | :02:35. | |
to get a majority. Jeremy Corbyn has called for Theresa May to resign. | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
The Prime Minister says the country needs stability. The night saw Alex | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
Salmond and Nick Clegg lose their seats. Tom Bateman's port contains | :02:44. | :02:52. | |
flash photography. -- report. She called this election early, a | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
political gamble, the hope that she would transform the Tories' fragile | :02:57. | :03:05. | |
majority with a huge win. Forecasts suggest the Conservatives may end up | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
even worse off without even a majority. If, as the indications | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
have shown, if this is correct, that the Conservative Party won the most | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
seats and probably the most votes, then it would be incumbent on us to | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
make sure we have that period of stability, and that is exactly what | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
we will do. You can see what the Labour leader makes of these results | :03:30. | :03:34. | |
so far. A man whose campaign confounded expectations, beaming | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
smiles, with Labour on course for a far better night than many thought. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
The Prime Minister call the election because she wanted a mandate. Will a | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
mandate she has got is lost Conservative seats, lost votes, lost | :03:48. | :03:54. | |
votes and lost confidence. I would have thought that's enough to go, | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
actually. In Battersea, Labour had ousted a government Minister on a | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
swing of 10%. There have been Labour gains elsewhere. In Stockton South | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
from the Conservatives and in Scotland, Rutherglen from the SNP. | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
It is not just the Tories suffering. In Sheffield, former Lib Dem leader | :04:16. | :04:22. | |
Nick Clegg lost his seat. I have encountered this evening something | :04:23. | :04:24. | |
that many people have encountered before tonight and I suspect many | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
people encounter after tonight, which is that you live by the sword | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
and by thy -- die by the sword in politics. The night began with a | :04:34. | :04:38. | |
projection, the exit poll. It had the Conservatives as the largest | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
party but short of an overall majority. It put the Tories on three | :04:42. | :04:46. | |
other than 14 seats, down 17. Labour would be up 34 seats. The SNP down | :04:47. | :04:57. | |
to 34 MPs. The Lib Dems on 14. The SNP have lost big names on a | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
disappointing night compared with their Scottish landslide two years | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
ago. Deputy leader Angus Robertson was ousted by the Conservatives. | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
Former leader Alex Salmond lost his seat as well. Now one of Theresa | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
May's on MPs is laying the blame on her. She is in a difficult place. | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
She is a very talented woman and she doesn't shy from difficult | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
positions. But she now obviously has to consider your position. V | :05:24. | :05:27. | |
Festival of democracy has been on is full show, as have the upsets. | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
Theresa May has left her constituency count. The election | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
campaign has been an unpredictable journey. Already some Labour | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
opponents are saying tonight it should bring the end of the road for | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
her premiership. But there is still a way to go and more votes still to | :05:45. | :05:51. | |
be counted. The pound's position on currency markets has weakened | :05:52. | :05:55. | |
following early results. Overnight sterling suffered one of its biggest | :05:56. | :06:00. | |
falls since January, sinking to a low of almost 2% against the dollar | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
as the euro. A clearer picture of the markets will emerge when trading | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
opens across Europe. And the final results of the election coming. Time | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
for the weather. Good morning. This is how we ended | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
the day in Highland Scotland. For much of Scotland and Northern | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
Ireland it was a wet day on Thursday. Today we saw the rain in | :06:23. | :06:26. | |
Scotland petering out. Showers heading eastwards. Much prior across | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
Northern Ireland. Some sharp showers across western England and Wales. | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
They will become heavily for the released this afternoon, as they | :06:35. | :06:39. | |
will in parts of Scotland. We are talking hail and risk of thunder. | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
Much drier and brighter with some sunshine for the West. It will feel | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
warmer well. It doesn't last. As we go through the evening, more rain of | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
the Atlantic. Wetter for Northern Ireland. As we move into Saturday, | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
for Scotland. The South and east probably not seeing that much rain. | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
Still quite muggy and one. The rain clears further north to reveal | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
sunshine and showers. Eventually that weather front clears all parts | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
going from Saturday to Sunday. Sunday day of sunny spells and | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
showers. That is a look of the weather. | :07:15. | :07:16. | |
Let's return to David Dimbleby. Dawn has broken over Westminster. | :07:17. | :07:39. | |
And a cruel dawn for the Tory party. After the results that have come in, | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
we have still got 44 to come in. A lot of talk from sources within the | :07:45. | :07:48. | |
Tory party about Theresa May's future. We have had the call for her | :07:49. | :07:55. | |
to go. Pretty much a call for her to go from Anna Soubry, a backbencher, | :07:56. | :07:59. | |
famously outspoken. People Laura Kuenssberg have been speaking to | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
have said something needs to be done fairly dramatically and swiftly. | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
There is another interesting aspect. The votes have gone back to the two | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
main parties, Conservative and Labour. Not since 1970 have both | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
parties had over 12 million people voting for them. The current rate is | :08:21. | :08:28. | |
Labour on 12 million and 100,000, the Conservatives on 12 million and | :08:29. | :08:33. | |
6000. The smaller parties, the Liberals, and all the other parties, | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
had given way to a 2-party vote, which in a way is like that campaign | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
was. There were two very clearly distinct messages being given from | :08:45. | :08:47. | |
the Conservatives on the one hand with Theresa May saying strong and | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
stable and all that, and Jeremy Corbyn on the other hand saying, | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
there is another way. Less austerity, more spending,, the | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
government should do this and that. There was a poor rises and on the | :09:00. | :09:02. | |
parties and it seems the voters have been attracted to the polarisation. | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
They are getting two very clear and distinct messages. We will now look | :09:09. | :09:14. | |
at how the parties stand. Let's do that. We started many hours | :09:15. | :09:18. | |
ago in our virtual Downing Street and we give you our exit poll. A lot | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
of people were saying on social media it can't be right. The | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
forecast, with only about 44 seats to go, is very close to what we were | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
saying at five minutes to ten. The Conservatives falling short. 318 we | :09:33. | :09:39. | |
think now. Let's look at Labour. Quite a long way back but exceeding | :09:40. | :09:43. | |
all expectations. That is the point about the Labour performance. They | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
have done better than even they thought as we have heard from some | :09:48. | :09:50. | |
of the extraordinary interviews we have heard. 318 for the | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
Conservatives. You will see where these individual paving stones, | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
which are all individual constituencies, where they are | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
darker blue we have not got a result. Back here we have got those | :10:03. | :10:07. | |
results in. It is just the darker blue. Most are solid blue. Not many | :10:08. | :10:13. | |
more results. The ones we're waiting for, places like Kensington, | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
Richmond Park, Crawley, Dumfries, Winchester, Thirsk, Truro, St Ives | :10:19. | :10:24. | |
etc, still waiting for them. The exit polls stabilised with these | :10:25. | :10:28. | |
results. 318, the Conservatives short of an overall majority. 650 | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
MPs in the House of Commons, so you need just over half to be in | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
control. Theresa May will not be. She will have to find friends in the | :10:40. | :10:42. | |
House of Commons. It will be the Liberal Democrats this time. Have a | :10:43. | :10:48. | |
look at the Labour line. You could say the Labour result is no better | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
than Gordon Brown did when he lost the 2010 election. They have got a | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
handsome share of the vote. Part of that is rather surprising numbers of | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
Ukip voters going to Labour, which commentators did not predict. Also, | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
younger voters. I'm sure we will find out many of them have been | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
involved in the election. Labour 262, that's what we are now | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
forecasting, just down four from what we said at 10pm. These early | :11:16. | :11:25. | |
seats that we are still waiting for. Hendon, Ilford North, Dudley... Most | :11:26. | :11:32. | |
of these lines are solid red, solid blue. This is the situation. What a | :11:33. | :11:40. | |
blow for Theresa May, to call an election when she was 16 points | :11:41. | :11:43. | |
clear in the polls, thinking about the landslide of 100 and she didn't | :11:44. | :11:47. | |
even get an overall majority. It is politically devastating for her. | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
That is why we just saw Jeremy Corbyn giving the thumbs up. | :11:53. | :12:00. | |
Amazing. John Curtice, you are being a bit cautious about your exit poll, | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
not your exit poll, the BBC, sky, ITV exit poll, I have to say that | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
for copyright reasons... This combined exit poll. You were being | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
courses at the beginning, saying maybe it is not quite as bad as that | :12:17. | :12:21. | |
for the Tories. -- cautious. It now looks like you were spot on? One | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
always has to be cautious because the truth is one knows the | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
fragility. Two years ago we underestimated the Tory target by 18 | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
seats. It looks as though this time we might be possibly three seats | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
out, but that is about it. It looks as though our forecast is going to | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
prove remarkably accurate. Maybe in the end of the most accurate exit | :12:46. | :12:47. | |
poll yet. We will wait to see. Is there any possibility of it not | :12:48. | :12:58. | |
being a hung parliament now? There is no way the Conservatives can get | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
to the 326 mark. There is going to be a hung parliament. Plus some of | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
the questions Laura was raising about Theresa May's future. It is | :13:10. | :13:15. | |
worth remembering that the international academic extra says | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
that calling snap elections often doesn't work, because voters ask | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
themselves, hang on, what is it that is coming around the corner that | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
they are trying to hide from us? If you think about the snap elections | :13:30. | :13:34. | |
we have had in the UK in the past, 1970, Harold Wilson suddenly went to | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
the country when he thought the June tweet polls had turned in his | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
favour. He lost. In February in 1974, Edward Heath went to the | :13:44. | :13:45. | |
country suddenly because of the miners strike. He lost. Now very | :13:46. | :13:51. | |
suddenly and unexpectedly indeed, Theresa May has gone to the country. | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
Her party has not managed to lose, but maybe we will find that she has | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
ended up the loser of this election. She should have talked to you before | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
she decided to do it! If she had read the international literature, | :14:06. | :14:16. | |
it shows that although being able to call an election when you think it | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
is a good idea might seem an advantage, if you try to call an | :14:20. | :14:23. | |
election very early in a parliament, it can rebound on you. Laura, we | :14:24. | :14:30. | |
know that she has a tight circle of political advisers ma Fiona Hill and | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
Nick Timothy in particular. She must have consulted them. They are the | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
ones who must take the blame for this. I understand she is currently | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
closeted with them in Tory HQ, discussing their next moves. One | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
minister has said to me, I don't think she has to go, but things will | :14:50. | :14:55. | |
have to change. There will be demands from inside the 1922 | :14:56. | :15:00. | |
committee and among ministers that she must change her style of | :15:01. | :15:05. | |
working. She must expand beyond that tiny group of people. That is where | :15:06. | :15:14. | |
the discussion is. But is she capable of changing her way of | :15:15. | :15:23. | |
working? She doesn't seem to move an inch without Nick Timothy and Fiona | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
Hill telling her what to do. She's famed for her stubbornness. She | :15:28. | :15:31. | |
could try to cast that as being resolute. That is what she tried to | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
do in this election, boasting that she could be a bloody difficult | :15:35. | :15:37. | |
woman. But if you will not change your mind and you have made the | :15:38. | :15:46. | |
wrong decision, it is not great. We are joined by Simon Hamilton from | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
the Democratic Unionist Party in Northern Ireland and the member of | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
the Northern Ireland Assembly. I think you now have eight for the | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
DUP? We increased our seats from eight in the last parliament to ten. | :16:03. | :16:09. | |
You are clearly going to be a potentially attractive partner to a | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
Tory Prime Minister who doesn't have an overall majority. What are you | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
going to be asking for? Well, the results are still coming in and we | :16:21. | :16:24. | |
will soon know what the final shape of the parliament is. Let's see what | :16:25. | :16:32. | |
the final result is. The impact of Northern Ireland will be not just in | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
respect of the Democratic Unionist Party, but also Sinn Fein, who don't | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
take their seats in Westminster, which will have an impact on the | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
overall working majority in parliament. First and foremost, the | :16:44. | :16:53. | |
DUP will be looking to achieve our goals in respect of the best deal | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
for Northern Ireland. We are also mindful of our responsibilities in | :17:00. | :17:02. | |
terms of the national political scene. This is a difficult time for | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
the UK. There are a lot of challenges, particularly with | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
respect to terrorism and a attack on democracy in the last few weeks, but | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
also the challenges and opportunities that Brexit presents | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
and the need to get not just a good deal for Northern Ireland, but a | :17:21. | :17:25. | |
good deal for the UK. Laura, you watch Westminster closely. Can you | :17:26. | :17:35. | |
interpret for me what the DUP position would actually mean in | :17:36. | :17:38. | |
terms of votes in the House? What kind of pressure will they be able | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
to bring? Significant pressure. In the last Parliament, the DUP were | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
able to do privately call shots on some issues. But if there were to be | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
any sort of backsliding on Brexit, what would you consider to be | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
something unacceptable? We have already heard that there may be Tory | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
MPs calling for a reconsideration of the idea of staying in the single | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
market. Would that be something you would consider as acceptable in the | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
Brexit negotiations? Northern Ireland has particular circumstances | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
in respect of Brexit, because we have a border with Ireland which | :18:17. | :18:23. | |
will be the UK's border with the European Union after Brexit. The UK | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
will be leaving the EU, but there are particular circumstances shaped | :18:30. | :18:32. | |
by our history, geography and economy that we want to see | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
reflected in any deal. That is something we would be talking very | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
early to a new government about. Is it clear to you that you would only | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
do a kind of vote by vote understanding or would you consider | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
something more formal with the Conservatives? Let's see what | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
happens over the next few hours. Clearly, our votes will be | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
important. In the last Parliament, our votes were not needed in the way | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
they may be in the new parliament. On a range of issues, we were able | :19:06. | :19:08. | |
to take a position which was consistent with our policies as a | :19:09. | :19:12. | |
party but were also in the best interests of the people of Northern | :19:13. | :19:15. | |
Ireland, and we will continue to do that. You are in favour of leaving | :19:16. | :19:25. | |
the EU. What kind of border do you want with the South? We want to see | :19:26. | :19:30. | |
a frictionless border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
Ireland. There are a lot of movements on a daily basis between | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
people who work on both sides of the border and a lot of movements in | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
respect of the economy and trade. The rest of the UK remains our | :19:42. | :19:49. | |
biggest seller 's market. So you think people who worry about that | :19:50. | :19:52. | |
border and think that for instance, in terms of immigration into the UK, | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
it is an open door from the Republic into the north, they are wrong? The | :19:58. | :20:05. | |
Common travel area has existed between Northern Ireland and the | :20:06. | :20:08. | |
Republic of Ireland since the 1920s. There has been a lot of talk in the | :20:09. | :20:16. | |
last year about the creation of a hard border. That is not something | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
we want. Sorry to interrupt, but were talking about Polish workers | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
and Romanian workers coming from the EU who have open access at the | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
moment to the mainland of Britain. They will surely be able to come | :20:31. | :20:33. | |
into the Republic through Northern Ireland and into Britain. I know you | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
have had a common border with the South, but that is going to allow | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
anyone to come from anywhere in Europe into the mainland of Britain, | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
isn't it? The detail of how it would work in practice would have to be | :20:51. | :20:56. | |
worked out through the course of the next number of years as we go | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
through the Article 50 process. We want a good deal for Northern | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
Ireland as we exit the European Union. We were reassured by what the | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
Prime Minister, David Davis and other Cabinet members said about | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
their desire not to see a hard border. That is something we don't | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
want on the Dublin government don't want to see that either. Brussels | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
officials have also said that, so there is a recognition of the | :21:22. | :21:27. | |
circumstances of Northern Ireland. That is something we will want to be | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
dealt with early in the new parliament. Mr Hamilton, thank you. | :21:31. | :21:40. | |
You mentioned David Davis. We have been trying to get Boris Johnson to | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
talk to us. No. David Davis? No. Philip Hammond? No. Senior figures | :21:46. | :22:02. | |
in the Tory party stumm, unlike Mishal's guests. Were ordered by | :22:03. | :22:07. | |
Alistair Campbell, former director of Downing Street implications and | :22:08. | :22:09. | |
the Guardian journalist Paul Mason. Paul, did you dare to hope for these | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
sorts of games for Labour? Yes. I knew as soon as we did the left-wing | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
manifesto that we could get back to 35%. I'm not sure what the final | :22:20. | :22:22. | |
percentage will be, but it looks like we are on 12 million votes for | :22:23. | :22:28. | |
Labour, which is pushing close to what the first two Tony Blair | :22:29. | :22:33. | |
results were. What has then it is the severe deprivation across the | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
areas of Britain that are voting for us. 12 million people picked up the | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
Daily Mail and the # And read these headlines about Corbyn and McDonnell | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
being Marxist terror supporters and threw them mentally in the bin. | :22:49. | :22:53. | |
So for you, it was the anti-austerity election? Absolutely. | :22:54. | :22:58. | |
I was campaigning in Plymouth, the home of the Trident submarine, or | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
where they refurbish them. It looks like Labour will win both Plymouth | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
seats. Even to that military community, home of the Royal Marine | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
commandos, it is desperate out there in many working class communities, | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
and nobody in politics has noticed. You are making it sound like a win, | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
which it isn't. Alastair Campbell, what do you think? It has been an | :23:24. | :23:29. | |
extraordinary night. I do think that an election that Theresa May called | :23:30. | :23:32. | |
to strengthen her position, because she looked at the numbers on Jeremy | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
Corbyn and thought it was unlosable, and she has lost. She cannot survive | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
for long in the position she has got. I think Jeremy Corbyn is onto | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
something in relation to how deep the austerity is going and the | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
public saying they want something better. As you mentioned, Mishal, it | :23:52. | :23:58. | |
is important to emphasise that she has lost and Labour hasn't won. The | :23:59. | :24:05. | |
country is essentially still saying, we don't really want either of you. | :24:06. | :24:11. | |
But they are doing it at a time when a government has to go into the most | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
difficult negotiations that any government has had since the war. | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
For your party, it means that Blairism is even more firmly part of | :24:21. | :24:27. | |
the past. Jeremy Corbyn's wing of the party will lead it for the | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
foreseeable future. Well, I want and hope that the Labour Party can | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
encapsulate and encompass all of that space. The only way the Labour | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
Party will get back into winning and having a Labour Prime Minister is if | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
you have that coalition that has the left, but also has the centre | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
ground. I want to get over this new, old, Blair, Brown macro thing. | :24:52. | :24:58. | |
History has put us in an amazing edition. Of course we haven't won | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
and we have to facilitate a stable conservative/ DUP government forming | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
itself, because this country is under attack from terror. So what | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
Jeremy Corbyn and Emily Thornberry are signalling about looking... We | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
don't know what the final arithmetic is. But in the next 12 hours, Amber | :25:16. | :25:24. | |
Rudd has to carry on being Home Secretary. You are right that Labour | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
now needs to learn from this. I would like to see some of those big | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
hitters from the brown and Blair era come into the Shadow Cabinet, reset | :25:35. | :25:41. | |
the balance within Labour, re-look at what our offer on Brexit is. We | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
have won this is committed to Brexit. That is how you win in | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
places like Manchester and Bolton. But the kind of Brexit now has to be | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
one that embraces an engagement with Europe. One of her big mistakes was | :25:56. | :26:02. | |
that since the referendum, she has governed for the 40% with two | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
fingers up to the 52%. You cannot govern for the country with such a | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
big decision to be pursued like that. So no matter what | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
configuration, there will have to be a much more consensual approach to | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
what Britain's relationship with Europe becomes. | :26:23. | :26:29. | |
Let's join Yvette Cooper in Wakefield. Thank you for joining us | :26:30. | :26:37. | |
at this early hour of the morning. You are safely back in your seat. | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
You were one of those who wanted to leave the Labour Party. What do you | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
make of what has happened and what lessons does it contain for people | :26:48. | :26:51. | |
like you on the right or the centre of Labour? I think it is great that | :26:52. | :26:58. | |
we're winning back constituencies for and we are seeing hard work | :26:59. | :27:04. | |
across the country. I applaud the work Jeremy, Tom, members and | :27:05. | :27:10. | |
activists have been doing across the country to win back those | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
constituencies. We have also had a small number of losses, that is very | :27:14. | :27:19. | |
sad. People like Natascha Engel have been fantastic MPs in Parliament. | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
But overall we have seen some great results. But of course what it means | :27:25. | :27:29. | |
now is it looks like this is a hung parliament. I think that Theresa May | :27:30. | :27:33. | |
called this as a referendum on herself and she has lost that. I do | :27:34. | :27:38. | |
not see how she can carry on because I don't see she has a mandate for | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
the manifesto she set out. That means it will be quite complicated | :27:43. | :27:47. | |
in terms of what happens now. We have to keep up the pressure in | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
terms of what we should be doing. We need to stand up for people to get a | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
Labour government. And you are no happy with Jeremy Corbyn's | :27:58. | :27:59. | |
leadership where you were not before? We had leadership elections | :28:00. | :28:06. | |
in the party. That is how we do things. Jeremy Corbyn won twice. And | :28:07. | :28:15. | |
that is why we had the whole party come together as part of this | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
campaign, the all party campaigning across the country. I have been to | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
about 20 constituencies across the country campaigning for those Labour | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
candidates. It is great to see many of them elected this morning. What | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
is happening behind you? Who is being applauded? Jon Trickett was | :28:35. | :28:42. | |
just making his speech. He has been re-elected as the MP for Handsworth. | :28:43. | :28:52. | |
-- Hemsworth. You were wrong about the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn. It | :28:53. | :28:55. | |
turns out he is a better leader than anybody else you could have | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
produced. I you happy to serve in a shadow cabinet with him, indeed if | :29:00. | :29:05. | |
he becomes Prime Minister serving cabinet with him? You back onside? I | :29:06. | :29:12. | |
think we have all been working together in this election. We have | :29:13. | :29:16. | |
been fighting for every vote, every single member of the party, every | :29:17. | :29:22. | |
single candidate. We have been doing so together. That has been really | :29:23. | :29:26. | |
important. That is why we have won support right across the country, a | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
broad range of support. I think you would certainly agree it would be | :29:32. | :29:35. | |
very presumptuous of me or anybody else to talk about what happens | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
next. That is for the party. The one thing that should happen next is | :29:41. | :29:46. | |
that Theresa May, I do think, cannot carry on as Prime Minister when she | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
has lost what was a referendum she called on herself. We haven't seen | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
the strong and stable claims that she made. We have seen the complete | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
opposite happened. We have this really important Brexit | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
negotiations? To start in about 11 days. -- due to start. There will | :30:05. | :30:13. | |
have to be more transparency. There will have to be more negotiations | :30:14. | :30:16. | |
and discussions in Parliament itself. There will have to be a | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
proper, wide-open debate about what kind of Brexit Britain and the | :30:21. | :30:26. | |
British government is pursuing. They can't do things the old ways and | :30:27. | :30:29. | |
think they can get away with it after this election result. Thank | :30:30. | :30:34. | |
you. We have now got a 29 seats still to declare. And we are now | :30:35. | :30:40. | |
able, officially, so to speak, to say there is going to be, at the end | :30:41. | :30:45. | |
when everything is in, there is going to be a hung parliament. No | :30:46. | :30:51. | |
surprise there. With the Conservatives as the larger party. | :30:52. | :30:58. | |
The largest party. Labour on 262. But remember, the Conservatives need | :30:59. | :31:05. | |
326. So far from guaranteeing certainty and stability for the | :31:06. | :31:08. | |
years ahead, Theresa May called this election and she has lost 17 | :31:09. | :31:17. | |
majority in favour of a hung parliament that has her on 318 only. | :31:18. | :31:24. | |
Yes, we are just contemplating that inside our virtual parliament. | :31:25. | :31:28. | |
Remember in 2010 when the Conservatives got 306 seats and they | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
needed friends. They looked to the Liberal Democrats and you got the | :31:33. | :31:35. | |
coalition. What may happen this time? Let me just show you the | :31:36. | :31:44. | |
numbers here. Remarkably similar to the numbers we give you at the start | :31:45. | :31:51. | |
of the night. 318, Conservative, 262 Labour. I'm going to show you how it | :31:52. | :31:57. | |
would work if the Conservatives say to the DUP, the Democratic Unionist | :31:58. | :32:02. | |
Party, help us. They haven't got the crucial 326 seats. How does it work? | :32:03. | :32:09. | |
We take out, first of all, how do you get this to line up again? It | :32:10. | :32:16. | |
doesn't matter if we see you. While you do that, let me explain. Here | :32:17. | :32:21. | |
are the parties. The Conservatives, 308. We are looking for 326. It is | :32:22. | :32:30. | |
pretty simple now. We undertake the DUP and we have got them down as | :32:31. | :32:36. | |
ten. Add them to it. They are there. It is pretty, pretty close. It is | :32:37. | :32:41. | |
very painful for Theresa May. It is that simple thing of saying to the | :32:42. | :32:46. | |
DUP, will you help us? For Theresa May to reach out and ask them to at | :32:47. | :32:52. | |
least get the Queen's speeds through. That arrangement involves | :32:53. | :32:55. | |
all kinds of trade having to be made. Yvette Cooper saying there | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
will be more focus on what is said and done in and around the chamber | :33:01. | :33:05. | |
of the House of Commons. It could be done. A pretty simple calculation. | :33:06. | :33:10. | |
They got close enough to the line to only need the support of the DUP. | :33:11. | :33:13. | |
Let's see what this looks like inside the house of Commons. We had | :33:14. | :33:19. | |
the Conservatives short. You can see the finishing line. Three than 26 | :33:20. | :33:23. | |
seats needed. They haven't made it. It is a hung parliament. They use | :33:24. | :33:29. | |
the DUP to get across the line. Take a look at the opposition benches. | :33:30. | :33:37. | |
Labour on 262. The SNP on 35. The Lib Dems recovering a bit. You can | :33:38. | :33:41. | |
see the other parties. We have filled out the Northern Ireland | :33:42. | :33:44. | |
parties. Labour exceeding all expectations. If you have a whirl | :33:45. | :33:49. | |
around the House of Commons, you will see it is dominated, as before, | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
by blue. But of course the crucial thing, the action around this line, | :33:55. | :34:01. | |
this 327 line danger is the problem for Mrs May. That is why she will | :34:02. | :34:05. | |
need help to pass laws and govern, if indeed she stays in power. And if | :34:06. | :34:11. | |
she doesn't stay in power, those who like a little bit of history at 20 | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
to six in the morning, she will be the shortest term Prime Minister 's | :34:16. | :34:21. | |
since Andrew Bonar Law, the Conservative Prime Minister, who | :34:22. | :34:32. | |
served 210 days from 1922 to 1923. She has done 230 days. Nothing to be | :34:33. | :34:39. | |
proud of. And the absolutely upside-down version of what he | :34:40. | :34:42. | |
thought was kind to happen. She was expecting to be the first | :34:43. | :34:46. | |
Conservative leader for 30 years to have a proper Conservative majority. | :34:47. | :34:50. | |
Don't forget, David Cameron only made coalition in 2010. In 2015 he | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
had a puny majority. This is the upside-down version of what Theresa | :34:57. | :35:01. | |
May was anticipating. At the beginning of the campaign I remember | :35:02. | :35:04. | |
there were a lot of opinion polls saying that people infinitely | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
preferred her to Jeremy Corbyn. By quite big margins. Even if they | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
didn't like the Conservative Party. People assumed it was her style, | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
they liked are not being flashy, the light are not being as flashy as | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
David Cameron, showing his toes off on an Instagram with his wife on | :35:23. | :35:27. | |
holiday. She wasn't that kind of woman. A very private. She went on | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
television and revealed nothing except that her husband put at the | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
dustbins. People like that rectitude. Absolutely. We heard on | :35:37. | :35:43. | |
the doorstep that people thought she wasn't like the other Tories, she | :35:44. | :35:47. | |
was in the past boy. She was like during child's head teacher. She was | :35:48. | :35:54. | |
calm, she had authority. I think one of the things that really hurt was | :35:55. | :35:58. | |
not just the social care policy and the manifesto that frankly panicked | :35:59. | :36:01. | |
a lot of elderly Conservative voters, it was probably largely due | :36:02. | :36:07. | |
to the presentation not the actual policy. It panicked her. And then | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
she changed her mind. That idea that she was stable, that she was | :36:13. | :36:21. | |
resolute, but she had authority, was hugely undermined by the fact she | :36:22. | :36:24. | |
did a U-turn on manifesto within days. That had never happened | :36:25. | :36:29. | |
before. Secondly, the issue of police cuts in the wake of the | :36:30. | :36:35. | |
terror attacks came up the rails in the closing days of the campaign. | :36:36. | :36:40. | |
Just as you would normally expect the Conservatives to respond, the | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
electorate to respond more positively to the Conservatives on | :36:45. | :36:48. | |
security, traditionally a plus for them, in reverse, it appears to have | :36:49. | :36:52. | |
gone the other way. So again, on the result and on the reaction of the | :36:53. | :36:56. | |
campaign, a topsy-turvy election in that sense. It was weird, the | :36:57. | :37:03. | |
turnabout on the care for people in their homes. It was absolutely clear | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
reading the manifesto that what she was saying was, you can keep your | :37:07. | :37:13. | |
last ?100,000, but you will pay for the rest of your care. There was no | :37:14. | :37:19. | |
mention that you wouldn't have to pay more than 70 5000. Yet when they | :37:20. | :37:23. | |
suddenly said, we will put that in so you can keep 100, and you won't | :37:24. | :37:28. | |
have to pay more than 75, she just couldn't bring herself to say it was | :37:29. | :37:35. | |
a change. You say the old people may not have been too worried but it was | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
the fact that clearly everybody knew she had changed her position. The | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
public are much more forgiving than Westminster. The concept of a | :37:45. | :37:49. | |
U-turn. If you front up to it. In human life, everybody makes | :37:50. | :37:53. | |
mistakes, finally you put your hands up and say, that is what happened. | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
Theresa May stood there at repeated press conferences, answering | :37:59. | :38:01. | |
question after question, saying nothing has changed, nothing has | :38:02. | :38:05. | |
changed. We'll knew something had changed. We reported it. The public | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
completely knew something had changed. That undermined her brand | :38:10. | :38:15. | |
of not being like the rest. What is it with this nick, Timothy and Fiona | :38:16. | :38:19. | |
Hill, that they can take on one side and say, don't give way, which is | :38:20. | :38:26. | |
presumably what they were doing? Presumably she will have felt that. | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
They are a core trio that I worked together for years. But to present | :38:32. | :38:34. | |
her as not being able to make a wrong mind up is not fair. In our | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
last couple of years at the Home Office, the to -- two of them had | :38:41. | :38:45. | |
already left. The story is too tempting to imagine as a politician | :38:46. | :38:49. | |
having strings pulled by people behind the scenes. The thing about | :38:50. | :38:53. | |
Theresa May is she is extremely self-contained. She doesn't trust | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
people easily. Since she moved into Number 10 people have been saying, | :38:58. | :39:01. | |
she will have to broaden her circle. You can run that kind of tight ship | :39:02. | :39:05. | |
if you are in a department. At Number 10, you have to be nimble. | :39:06. | :39:11. | |
What we saw in this campaign, that was the one thing Theresa May seemed | :39:12. | :39:15. | |
not capable of doing, was being nimble. The next 24-hour is she | :39:16. | :39:21. | |
needs to survive. She is gone to need to be nimble. I understand she | :39:22. | :39:26. | |
has been talking the Tory staff. Apparently her mood was calm, | :39:27. | :39:29. | |
sombre. She didn't directly address the issue of her future. She didn't | :39:30. | :39:35. | |
say she was going to stay, we will carry on together. The application | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
of course not mentioning it is that she hasn't made of her mind. -- made | :39:41. | :39:48. | |
up her mind. I will come back to you in a minute. This is a list of seats | :39:49. | :39:53. | |
still to declare. Have a look at this. The Tories have to win all of | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
these bar one. All of these bar one. There is the less. These are all | :40:00. | :40:09. | |
being counted at the moment. They have taken Devon West and torrid. | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
They have to take all of them bar one. If they lose two, it is a hung | :40:15. | :40:19. | |
parliament. That is why we are forecasting a hung parliament. | :40:20. | :40:28. | |
What reaction have you got? Not just social media. | :40:29. | :40:34. | |
I am text on relentlessly. I text it a former Tory minister, can she | :40:35. | :40:40. | |
survived? I will not telling the utilities. The response was, I doubt | :40:41. | :40:47. | |
it. As Laura has been reporting and discussing, this election was called | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
about the single issue of Brexit. Theresa May wanted a mandate to | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
connect -- to negotiate with conviction. It is clear looking at | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
what we are seeing on social media that people who backed Remain, they | :41:00. | :41:07. | |
are very much emboldened. We have a declaration from Ashfield. | :41:08. | :41:18. | |
Gloria Del Piero, 21,000 285. Tony Harper, Conservative Party, 20800 | :41:19. | :41:35. | |
and 44. Green Party candidate, 398. Putting people before politics, | :41:36. | :41:48. | |
4612. Ray Young, Ukip, for the number of ballot papers rejected... | :41:49. | :41:56. | |
Gloria Del Piera has been there since 2010. A former political | :41:57. | :42:00. | |
correspondent for television. Once described as Tony Blair's favourite | :42:01. | :42:05. | |
broadcaster. She has held onto Ashfield. The previous majority was | :42:06. | :42:14. | |
8000. This is down in the hundreds. But anywhere, Ashfield has been | :42:15. | :42:15. | |
held. Ashfield in Nottinghamshire. The Remainers, people like Ed | :42:16. | :42:33. | |
Miliband, were meant to be vanquished by this election. The | :42:34. | :42:37. | |
idea was that by getting a big mandate, Theresa merguez cover their | :42:38. | :42:40. | |
ambitions. But actually, these guys are massively happy about this | :42:41. | :42:45. | |
result. Ed Miliband has put out a message in the last hour saying, we | :42:46. | :42:48. | |
know Theresa May can't now negotiate Brexit for Britain because she told | :42:49. | :42:53. | |
us losing a majority would destroy her authority, and it has. Pretty | :42:54. | :42:57. | |
brutal stuff from Ed Miliband. There are lots of people who are almost | :42:58. | :43:04. | |
celebrity opponents of Brexit. Simon Schama, the historian, is one of | :43:05. | :43:08. | |
them. He has put out a message saying hard Brexit is dead ma May on | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
life support. Democracy is alive and kicking, a great thing. We are going | :43:15. | :43:18. | |
to have lots of complex battles inside the Conservative Party and | :43:19. | :43:20. | |
the House of Commons over the next few weeks, but that is not the only | :43:21. | :43:24. | |
battle. The other 27 members of the European Union will be looking at | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
this result. I think they agreed with Theresa May's analysis. Had she | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
got a big increase in her majority, she would have had a stronger | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
bargaining position. Now it is much weaker. Whoever runs the government | :43:36. | :43:42. | |
over the next few weeks and months will find it much harder to get any | :43:43. | :43:47. | |
deal out of the other 27 members. But if their mandate is weaker here, | :43:48. | :43:56. | |
the strongest contingent in the Conservative Party is the | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
Eurosceptics. So with a weaker mandate, there are potentially more | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
likely to push her around and therefore a hard Brexit could be | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
back on the table. Let's hear from the Conservative Party, a man who | :44:10. | :44:13. | |
contended for the Conservative Party leadership until he dropped out, | :44:14. | :44:16. | |
Stephen Crabb, who has held his Welsh seat by just over 300, down | :44:17. | :44:24. | |
from 5000 or so. Thank you for joining us. Tell us what you think | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
of the state of affairs for your party and which direction it should | :44:31. | :44:37. | |
now go in? I have not been able to follow the full unfolding results or | :44:38. | :44:41. | |
what the current state of the arithmetic is of what the new | :44:42. | :44:45. | |
parliament will be but clearly, something has gone awry here. We set | :44:46. | :44:48. | |
out on this election campaign wanting to provide the country with | :44:49. | :44:52. | |
more stability and more unity ahead of the Brexit negotiations, and we | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
are emerging with a situation in parliament where there are more | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
divisions and less stability. So we clearly need to take stock of what | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
has gone on and think about what these big overarching challenges | :45:06. | :45:08. | |
with the Brexit negotiations, and take time to rethink what the | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
correct approach is in the national interest. Can the Prime Minister | :45:13. | :45:19. | |
hang on? Is absolutely she can. I don't know what the current state of | :45:20. | :45:23. | |
affairs is with the number of seats being won, but if she is the leader | :45:24. | :45:27. | |
of the largest party, there is a duty upon her as Prime Minister to | :45:28. | :45:32. | |
seek to form a viable government. The last thing we should be doing | :45:33. | :45:36. | |
right now while the election results are still coming in, is called for | :45:37. | :45:39. | |
more political turbulence and knee jerk decisions. We need to be calm | :45:40. | :45:47. | |
about this. Theresa May clearly understands the seriousness of the | :45:48. | :45:52. | |
situation. But we should avoid hasty decisions that add to the | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
instability. Leaving aside the leadership, in terms of policy, you | :45:59. | :46:04. | |
are stored Remainer -- a staunch Remainer. You don't want to see | :46:05. | :46:10. | |
Britain leave the EU in difficult circumstances and go into the World | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
Trade Organisation. Do you think this election will have a salutary | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
effect on the decisions that are made about Brexit as a Remainer? | :46:19. | :46:26. | |
Well, I voted for Remain, but I understood the result of the | :46:27. | :46:29. | |
referendum last year and recognised the need to strike a pragmatic and | :46:30. | :46:36. | |
realistic Brexit position. I think it is important to avoid falling | :46:37. | :46:42. | |
back on this hard edge Brexit relying on World Trade Organisation | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
rules. And yes, one of the messages from the results tonight will be | :46:47. | :46:50. | |
that the government needs to seek a balanced, pragmatic approach, strike | :46:51. | :46:53. | |
that deal with the European Union if we can. Ideally, given that it is | :46:54. | :46:59. | |
unlikely that there will be one party with an overall majority, we | :47:00. | :47:03. | |
need to be trying to forge as much cross-party consensus on this as | :47:04. | :47:08. | |
possible. Stephen Crabb, thank you. While you were talking, we were | :47:09. | :47:11. | |
watching Zac Goldsmith at Richmond Park, where there appear to have | :47:12. | :47:16. | |
been two recounts. He is looking very chirpy. That is him, the blond | :47:17. | :47:20. | |
fellow in the background, who is fighting the Conservative cause | :47:21. | :47:23. | |
against the Liberal Democrats, who took over his seat in a by-election. | :47:24. | :47:30. | |
Let's hear from our reporter there if we can. We can't. So we will | :47:31. | :47:41. | |
leave him there, mulling over whatever it is that has happened, | :47:42. | :47:46. | |
and go to North East Fife. It is difficult to interpret people's | :47:47. | :47:49. | |
faces. And we have lost North East Fife as well. But I'm sure everyone | :47:50. | :47:59. | |
will come back in time. So we have a hung parliament, we think. 20 seats | :48:00. | :48:07. | |
to go now and the Tories are on 306. We think they will end up at 318. Is | :48:08. | :48:15. | |
it time to remind ourselves of what happens with a hung parliament? I am | :48:16. | :48:22. | |
sure it is. The technical rules. Who governs while it is resolved? The | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
incumbent Prime Minister is still in office. Whatever happens with the | :48:27. | :48:33. | |
Tory party, the government in power gets the first chance to form a | :48:34. | :48:39. | |
government. If they can't do that and they try to put something | :48:40. | :48:42. | |
forward to the Commons and it fails, then the Prime Minister has to | :48:43. | :48:46. | |
resign. We may not get to that territory. We will have to leave | :48:47. | :48:57. | |
your lecture. We are going to Southampton. The Conservative | :48:58. | :49:14. | |
candidate, 16006. If Labour hold this one, it is a hung parliament. | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
Independent, 680. Southampton independent, 716. Labour | :49:19. | :49:40. | |
Party, 27509. That is it. He has increased his agility, so it is a | :49:41. | :49:43. | |
hung parliament. The Tories had to take that one if they were to have | :49:44. | :49:49. | |
any chance of reaching 326. They now don't. We forecast a hung parliament | :49:50. | :49:53. | |
and it now is a hung parliament. This is the official moment where we | :49:54. | :49:57. | |
can say Theresa May's gamble has spectacularly backfired. She has | :49:58. | :50:02. | |
lost the majority she inherited from David Cameron. She herself is in a | :50:03. | :50:08. | |
vulnerable position at a time when whoever is in charge faces the most | :50:09. | :50:10. | |
competitive political task in decades. Astonishing. You can go | :50:11. | :50:22. | |
back to reading your rules. So the Prime Minister is still entitled. | :50:23. | :50:29. | |
Does she go to the palace? No. I think she still will go to the | :50:30. | :50:34. | |
palace. There still has to be a formal request after a general | :50:35. | :50:37. | |
election. Then she goes back to the House of Commons. A vote of | :50:38. | :50:42. | |
confidence then? That would be up to the 1922 committee. But what will | :50:43. | :50:50. | |
she do as Prime Minister? The first move would be to put forward what | :50:51. | :50:56. | |
she plans to do. Parliament State opening is on the 19th of June, so | :50:57. | :50:59. | |
she would try to put forward a Queen's Speech and essentially dare | :51:00. | :51:04. | |
the other parties to vote you down. It may be that things are moving so | :51:05. | :51:08. | |
fast that we might not get there but technically, the largest party is | :51:09. | :51:11. | |
entitled to put forward a Queen's Speech and see what the other | :51:12. | :51:14. | |
parties make of it. On these numbers, it may be that if Theresa | :51:15. | :51:18. | |
May makes it through the Tory grinder, her Queen's Speech would go | :51:19. | :51:28. | |
through and then she could carry on, albeit very much damaged but still | :51:29. | :51:36. | |
in charge. But it is too straightforward to say she has to | :51:37. | :51:41. | |
get it through Parliament, because the opposition parties might not | :51:42. | :51:47. | |
want to force another election now or form another government. So they | :51:48. | :51:53. | |
can call back or abstain. They can do all sorts of things. Let her stew | :51:54. | :51:59. | |
in her own juice for a bit. She has already voiced that up on her own | :52:00. | :52:07. | |
petard. There we go, two analogies! The rules create the backdrop of all | :52:08. | :52:15. | |
of this. But the political mood is more important. Where there is a | :52:16. | :52:18. | |
will, there's a way. If the party allows her to stay and she wants to | :52:19. | :52:25. | |
carry on when she's so damaged, then maybe she can. But somebody in 11 | :52:26. | :52:33. | |
days' time has to go and speak to Mr Barnier about leaving. So who does | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
that? If Theresa May stays on, you would assume it would be David | :52:38. | :52:40. | |
Davis, if he doesn't get moved to another job. But it would be an | :52:41. | :52:45. | |
astonishing thing where whoever it is turned up opposing the other 27 | :52:46. | :52:49. | |
countries around the table. Emily has more results for us. We know it | :52:50. | :52:55. | |
is now a hung parliament, but let's see what has come in. I wonder if we | :52:56. | :53:02. | |
are starting to feel the pace of the shy Remainer in these results. This | :53:03. | :53:06. | |
is Chipping Barnet, a north London suburb by showing that although | :53:07. | :53:11. | |
Theresa Villiers has kept the seat, look at the swing, again away from | :53:12. | :53:17. | |
her towards Labour of 6.9%. Same sort of direction as the one we saw | :53:18. | :53:25. | |
with Justine Greening in Putney. They are holding on here. | :53:26. | :53:29. | |
Dumfriesshire is the one that has been held for the Conservatives. It | :53:30. | :53:43. | |
does start to look like a rejection of independence, whether you are | :53:44. | :53:50. | |
talking about the Scottish referendum, or maybe a start of the | :53:51. | :53:55. | |
shy Remain vote in England. We have seen some extraordinary swings in | :53:56. | :53:59. | |
Scotland on a summer of 20%. This is not as big, but it is still pretty | :54:00. | :54:04. | |
hefty, and 11 point swing towards the Conservatives away from the SNP. | :54:05. | :54:17. | |
Even when you see the old, let's look at the change. The Ukip vote is | :54:18. | :54:25. | |
again deeply down, Labour making those gains which holds the seat for | :54:26. | :54:29. | |
the Conservatives. In Scotland, we are seeing a real rejection of | :54:30. | :54:33. | |
independence, with all the parties taking away from the SNP. Will we | :54:34. | :54:37. | |
start to interpret the same sort of movement in some of the gains that | :54:38. | :54:41. | |
Labour is making from the Conservatives? So it could be that | :54:42. | :54:45. | |
one of the effects of this election will be to give hope to the 48% who | :54:46. | :54:50. | |
voted Remain in the referendum last summer? They will think there is now | :54:51. | :54:55. | |
something to play for again. You have heard the Remainers saying the | :54:56. | :55:04. | |
48% felt forgotten. Perhaps over the course of this year, the Remainers | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
are the ones who have felt their voice was ignored and it is starting | :55:08. | :55:16. | |
to come through. This is the voice of the shy Remainers, but they have | :55:17. | :55:19. | |
not decamped en masse to the Lib Dems. It was the Lib Dem strategy to | :55:20. | :55:23. | |
relentless target the 40% in the hope that they would all come over | :55:24. | :55:26. | |
to the yellow column, but that has not happened, interestingly. Well, | :55:27. | :55:38. | |
the 326 seats that the Tories needed if they were to have a majority, | :55:39. | :55:45. | |
even a minuscule one, is now impossible. So it is a hung | :55:46. | :55:51. | |
parliament. The Conservatives have 309 seats. Labour 258. There is no | :55:52. | :55:57. | |
way the Conservatives can go to 326. That is how it is at the moment. We | :55:58. | :56:05. | |
have not shown the other parties. I don't think we have even mentioned | :56:06. | :56:12. | |
whether the Green Party won in Brighton. We are still waiting for | :56:13. | :56:18. | |
that result, Caroline Lucas. That is how things are. It is a hung | :56:19. | :56:22. | |
parliament, and that's the story. And it has taken us from ten | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
o'clock, when it was quite astonishing to get the exit poll, to | :56:27. | :56:31. | |
now, just before six o'clock, to be certain that that is how things are. | :56:32. | :56:38. | |
Peter. In the light of the referendum a year ago, Scotland was | :56:39. | :56:43. | |
doing one thing, London was doing one thing, and the rest of England | :56:44. | :56:47. | |
and Wales. It is like that tonight. These three quite different | :56:48. | :56:50. | |
operations. Scotland, a massive swing from SNP to Conservative. In a | :56:51. | :56:56. | |
huge swing to Labour, especially in the Tory marginals. The rest of | :56:57. | :57:00. | |
England and Wales, a small swing to Labour. So once again, the shadow of | :57:01. | :57:06. | |
Brexit and the referendum is telling in these results. A while ago, | :57:07. | :57:11. | |
Southgate went back to Labour. The remarkable thing is that it was | :57:12. | :57:15. | |
actually in line with all the other Conservative marginals in London. | :57:16. | :57:18. | |
The surprising thing is that it was not a surprise in terms of what was | :57:19. | :57:20. | |
happening in London tonight. Cordova it is six o'clock and some | :57:21. | :57:28. | |
of you will have had your alarm clocks winging in your ear. You will | :57:29. | :57:37. | |
be will wanting to know what happened. The news from the Election | :57:38. | :57:41. | |
Centre, it is a hung parliament. Theresa May, having gone to get what | :57:42. | :57:47. | |
she called certainty and stability for the years ahead, has totally | :57:48. | :57:52. | |
failed. She had a majority of 17 when this election was called a few | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
weeks back, she now doesn't have a majority at all. From her point of | :57:57. | :58:01. | |
view, it's a total disaster. It was a call she made and it fell flat. | :58:02. | :58:07. | |
That's how things are. For the next hour and the rest of the day, we | :58:08. | :58:12. | |
will discuss the ramifications. All sorts of ramifications, whether she | :58:13. | :58:16. | |
stays on this, what happens on policy. 11 days from now, we have to | :58:17. | :58:22. | |
start discussing with EU the terms of Brexit. If you are yawning and | :58:23. | :58:26. | |
about to do your morning exercises, that is the news for you. | :58:27. | :58:31. | |
Up here with me, two people whose job it is to decipher these messages | :58:32. | :58:36. | |
into newsprint and onto the airwaves. | :58:37. | :58:40. | |
Let's start with the point a moment ago, Andrew, do you think this was | :58:41. | :58:48. | |
the voice of the shy Remainer coming back? I said earlier I thought there | :58:49. | :58:54. | |
was an element of the angry Remainer who had been ignored for most of the | :58:55. | :58:59. | |
campaign, expressing itself in some of the results. There is a lot to | :59:00. | :59:03. | |
this result, but the big headline is this is the most stunning reversal | :59:04. | :59:08. | |
of fortunes. Just a month ago, the local elections, it now appears to | :59:09. | :59:12. | |
be the Jurassic in love. Labour was absolutely hammered at those | :59:13. | :59:21. | |
elections. -- the Jurassic era. Fast forward now, stunningly better | :59:22. | :59:24. | |
results for Jeremy Corbyn, when most expected, including me, and most of | :59:25. | :59:32. | |
his MPs... Some of that is obviously down to the dreadful Conservative | :59:33. | :59:34. | |
campaign, but credit where it is due, Labour has run a very effective | :59:35. | :59:40. | |
campaign, confounding so many expectations. Until a minute to ten | :59:41. | :59:44. | |
last night, many Labour MPs were waiting to come out anticipating a | :59:45. | :59:50. | |
dreadful drubbing. Some who have appeared on this programme over the | :59:51. | :59:55. | |
course of the evening, perhaps preparing to launch leadership | :59:56. | :59:58. | |
campaigns. All that is for the birds now. What do you think this was | :59:59. | :00:05. | |
about? I think we are all going to concentrate on Theresa May falling | :00:06. | :00:08. | |
short in her gamble, but we should not miss the big driver, that Jeremy | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
Corbyn did vastly better than people expected and had analysed. His idea | :00:14. | :00:19. | |
was Ed Miliband did not energise people beyond the ordinary people | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
who vote in elections, and we can do that with a new message. Everybody | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
outside their group thought that was an eccentric theory, it wouldn't | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
happen. They were right, we were wrong. That is one of the big | :00:34. | :00:38. | |
drivers of the election. People thought Labour would get 30%, it got | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
above 40%. No one saw that coming. That is a bigger feature of the | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
election. Why would that happen? One of the reasons is obviously Remain | :00:50. | :00:52. | |
versus Leave. When David Cameron had the election in 2015, | :00:53. | :01:16. | |
real income growth was going up. Now it is going down. Everything | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
political science tells you, you have to make the election about | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
something else. She tried to make it about the Brexit negotiations, but | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
it ended up being a lot about austerity. Not an election winning | :01:24. | :01:25. | |
number of voters for Labour. Mr Corbyn and his team were right, they | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
seem to have been proved correct in attaching onto the idea that after | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
seven years, a lot of the public is heartily sick of austerity. Even if | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
they did not think plausible the whole Labour programme... Is it a | :01:38. | :01:42. | |
campaign when not much could have been done? It is worth noting Labour | :01:43. | :01:54. | |
did not actually win the election. The really interesting question is, | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
is there a way of taking the excitement Jeremy Corbyn brings to | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
the campaign and linking it with feeling they could actually govern, | :02:04. | :02:05. | |
which would then produce the extra votes that would allow them to | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
actually win a majority themselves? Because it is important not to be | :02:10. | :02:13. | |
carried away by expectations and think that Labour won the election. | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
In circumstances where the economy was going backwards and there was a | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
Remain feeling, of course they fall short, so we need to analyse that | :02:22. | :02:27. | |
too. What are you hearing from within the party about Theresa May's | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
future? Because everyone is busy, I am not hearing one way or another, | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
but if you fight an election because you want a mandate and you don't get | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
a mandate, that puts your position in question. The problem for the | :02:41. | :02:44. | |
Conservative Party is there is no majority in the Conservative Party | :02:45. | :02:47. | |
that would then command a majority on Brexit in the Commons, and in the | :02:48. | :02:53. | |
Lords actually. Where they would go and where the Conservative Party | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
would go is different. The leadership on a platform to | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
govern... There is also the personal factor with Mrs May. I have watched | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
other Prime Ministers go through this. David Cameron said before the | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
referendum result he would not resign as Prime Minister. He woke up | :03:12. | :03:17. | |
and realised the loss of authority and that he could not carry on | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
plausibly in those circumstances. She will obviously be considering, | :03:23. | :03:26. | |
the people closest to her, most of all her husband... If enough of them | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
want me to carry on, would it be worth it? Having tried to sell | :03:32. | :03:35. | |
myself in this way and been rejected by the people, do I want to try and | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
go hand to mouth, knowing that a lot of my party are absolutely furious | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
with me, having to cut day by day deals with the Ulster Unionists? I | :03:46. | :03:47. | |
wonder. Thank you. Let's turn to the Green Party. They | :03:48. | :03:58. | |
have in effect only one candidate with a chance of winning. It is of | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
course Caroline Lucas, co-leader of the Greens in Brighton Pavilion. | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
Worth thinking for a moment for those people who voted Green, if she | :04:11. | :04:14. | |
does get in, we will get the result in a moment, over half a million | :04:15. | :04:20. | |
people voted Green, so she represents half a million of the | :04:21. | :04:24. | |
electorate. 13 million voted Conservative and they get 310 seats. | :04:25. | :04:31. | |
12.5 million voted Labour and they get 258. The Lib Dems get 12. Under | :04:32. | :04:40. | |
half a million, the SNP get 34. Over half a million and the Greens get | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
one. Worth reflecting on. Let's get the result from Brighton Pavilion | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
and see whether she did actually to represent... | :04:53. | :05:03. | |
The Brighton Boolean constituency is as follows. Ian Buchanan, 630, Ukip. | :05:04. | :05:16. | |
Solomon Curtis, Labour Party... Caroline Lucas, Green Party, 30,149. | :05:17. | :05:28. | |
Emma Warman, Conservatives... The number of other papers rejected were | :05:29. | :05:37. | |
as follows. Mark identifying vote, three. Unmarked, 133. The total | :05:38. | :05:47. | |
rejected votes come 154. So Caroline Lucas has increased her majority. | :05:48. | :05:57. | |
She is up by 6722. A majority of nearly 15,000. Here she is, the | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
co-leader of the Green Party. Thank you so much to the returning officer | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
and his amazing staff tonight. Thank you to the other candidates. Thank | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
you to my really amazing campaign team and the Legion of volunteers | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
who did so much in this campaign. Going well beyond the call of duty. | :06:16. | :06:24. | |
I want to say a huge thank you to Matt, Gabriel, my campaign manager | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
and my agent, you have been so fantastic. Thank you so much. Thank | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
you to my amazing family, as ever, always with me every step of the | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
way. And most of all, thank you to the wonderful people of Brighton | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
Pavilion, whom it has been such an honour and privilege to serve. Thank | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
you for putting your faith in me again. Caroline Lucas, winning her | :06:46. | :06:54. | |
seat in Brighton Pavilion again. At 6.10, time for some news. Dawn has | :06:55. | :07:02. | |
broken. A fine day. And my goodness, down there in those few square miles | :07:03. | :07:09. | |
around Westminster, the people coming back, the people in Downing | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
Street, the people in Tory party head office, the Labour Party | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
offices, yak yak yak, trying to decide what on earth to do. All of | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
our BBC yak gag yakkers will be going down there, including Laura | :07:25. | :07:32. | |
Kuenssberg. Not quite yet, but shortly. At some point, we expect | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
Theresa May to come out. I'm not sure whether she is back in there | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
already, but it is on mornings like this that back entrances to official | :07:43. | :07:51. | |
buildings come into their own. Waving from the window... | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
John Major in defeat was televised making a live speech to staff, a | :07:57. | :08:03. | |
gracious speech, when he lost in 1997. It's normal to go back to | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
Central office. It's not normal to be completely hidden away. | :08:09. | :08:14. | |
Westminster Abbey, the end east there, and the Union Flag flying | :08:15. | :08:20. | |
over the House of lords. -- the East end there. | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
Let us not be deflected any further by the beauty of this scene of | :08:26. | :08:34. | |
London and the dawn, and let's instead have the latest news. With | :08:35. | :08:36. | |
Louise Minchin. Theresa May's decision | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
to call a snap general election has backfired, | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
and there will be a hung parliament. With only a handful of seats left | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
to declare, the Conservatives have Labour has done better than expected | :08:49. | :08:50. | |
in the general election, and Jeremy Corbyn has called | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
for Theresa May to resign. The Prime Minister says | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
the country needs stability. The night saw both Alex Salmond | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
and Nick Clegg lose their seats. Our political correspondent | :09:02. | :09:05. | |
Tom Bateman's report A political gamble - | :09:06. | :09:07. | |
the hope that she would transform the Tories' fragile advantage | :09:08. | :09:17. | |
in Parliament with a huge win. But the smiles of the campaign | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
trail have vanished. Forecasts suggest the Conservatives | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
may end up even worse off, If, as the indications have shown, | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
if this is correct, that the Conservative Party has won | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
the most seats, and probably the most votes, then it will be | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
incumbent on us to ensure we have that period of stability, | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
and that is what we will do. And you can see what | :09:43. | :09:48. | |
the Labour leader makes A man whose campaign | :09:49. | :09:50. | |
confounded many expectations. Beaming smiles, with Labour | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
on course for a far better The Prime Minister called | :09:57. | :09:58. | |
the election because Well, the mandate she's got | :09:59. | :10:03. | |
is lost Conservative seats, lost votes, lost support, | :10:04. | :10:10. | |
and lost confidence. I would have thought | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
that is enough to go, actually. In Battersea, Labour | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
have ousted a government There have been Labour gains | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
elsewhere - in Stockton South from the Conservatives, | :10:22. | :10:27. | |
and in Scotland, And just look at the mood during the | :10:28. | :10:40. | |
count in Hastings. Home Secretary Amber Rudd only just scraped home by | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
346 votes. It's not just the Tories suffering. | :10:48. | :10:49. | |
In Sheffield, the Lib Dem's former leader Nick Clegg has lost his seat. | :10:50. | :10:52. | |
I, of course, have encountered this evening something that many people | :10:53. | :10:55. | |
have encountered before tonight, and I suspect many people | :10:56. | :10:57. | |
will encounter after tonight, which is in politics you live | :10:58. | :10:59. | |
by the sword and you die by the sword. | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
The night began with a projection - the exit poll. | :11:04. | :11:11. | |
This morning, with most seats counted, the BBC forecast has the | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
Conservatives as the largest party but short of an overall majority. | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
Labour are on course to increase their number of seats by around 30. | :11:22. | :11:27. | |
The SNP have lost big names on a disappointing night compared with | :11:28. | :11:30. | |
their Scottish landslide two years ago. Angus Robertson was ousted by | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
the Conservatives, and their former leader Alex Salmond lost his seat | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
too. One of Theresa May's own MPs is laying the blame on her. She is in a | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
very difficult place. She is a remarkable, talented woman and she | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
does not shy from difficult decisions but she has to consider | :11:49. | :11:53. | |
her position. Democracy has been on full show. So have the upsets. Now | :11:54. | :11:59. | |
an unpredictable journey for Theresa May as dawn breaks on renewed | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
political uncertainty. As she arrives at her party HQ, she knows | :12:05. | :12:07. | |
there are those saying this result should bring the end of the road for | :12:08. | :12:11. | |
a Premiership. The seating arrangement in this place has | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
changed significantly, or because Theresa May asked you to decide. Now | :12:15. | :12:16. | |
she has the answer. The pound has fallen sharply, as | :12:17. | :12:34. | |
traders react to the results. A clearer picture of the markets will | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
continue to emerge when trading opens across Europe. In other news, | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
1-1 is investigating the terror attack at London Bridge in which | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
eight people died have made another arrest. A 29-year-old man was | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
detained in east London, bringing the total number of people in | :12:52. | :12:58. | |
custody to five. 12 others were released without charge. | :12:59. | :13:07. | |
The Trump administration has denied allegations by James Comey that the | :13:08. | :13:16. | |
president tried to impede an investigation into last year's | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
presidential election. Mr Trump's lawyers said the testimony finally | :13:20. | :13:24. | |
confirm publicly that the president was not under investigation. | :13:25. | :13:30. | |
He has also called for Mr Comey to be prosecuted for leaking | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
Mr Comey has now admitted that he is one of these leakers. He has now | :13:34. | :13:53. | |
admitted that he unilaterally and surreptitiously made unauthorised | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
disclosure to the press. Back to election news in a couple of | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
moments, after an update on the weather, with Matt Taylor. Good | :14:02. | :14:04. | |
morning. Good morning. Overall, a sunny story | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
for most of you today. But you might need your umbrella just in case, | :14:11. | :14:13. | |
there will be some chicks in the forecast. The showers will be moving | :14:14. | :14:25. | |
eastwards during the day. But some gaps in between the showers. With a | :14:26. | :14:32. | |
bit more sunshine then yesterday, it will probably feel just a touch | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
warmer. Tonight, temperatures will hold up, with cloud spilling in once | :14:37. | :14:41. | |
again. That will be bringing rain into many areas for the start of | :14:42. | :14:49. | |
Saturday. The driest and brightest of the weather will be across parts | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
of the Midlands, East Anglia and the south-east of England. Quite a humid | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
day tomorrow. Sunday, driest again in the south-east corner. Further | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
north and west, it will feel a little bit cooler. Time now to hand | :15:03. | :15:05. | |
you back to David Dimbleby. Welcome back. Where is the Prime | :15:06. | :15:26. | |
Minister, and what is she up to? Ben Wright is outside Tory party | :15:27. | :15:33. | |
headquarters. Good morning. Good morning. We believe she is now in No | :15:34. | :15:38. | |
10, having spent quite a long time here at Tory HQ mulling over what to | :15:39. | :15:45. | |
do next. She did talk to Tory staffers just before she left and I | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
understand she said things would be different, but the Tories would | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
continue to be a party which works for everyone. I am told there was no | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
mention about her own intentions, weather she will stay or go. One | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
source in there told me that her mood was down, sombre but calm. I'm | :16:02. | :16:08. | |
told that she has left here and gone to Downing Street. There are a. Of | :16:09. | :16:13. | |
Tory party staffers trudging out, looking pretty desolate. They | :16:14. | :16:18. | |
thought this would be a morning of jubilation and celebration. I was | :16:19. | :16:23. | |
with the Tory battle bus this week, going around Labour held seats which | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
they thought would all be turning blue this morning. None of them were | :16:27. | :16:31. | |
expecting this. Things will change, meaning...? Laura Kuenssberg has | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
been talking about, she would have to change the way she does things - | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
could that be what she meant, or could it mean, you may not have me | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
around any more? I think it is more likely to be the former. She will be | :16:48. | :16:52. | |
well aware that as this campaign has progressed, there have been a | :16:53. | :16:57. | |
growing degree of frustration and anger I think within Tory party | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
ranks, the Parliamentary Conservative ranks, about how she | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
runs the show, how this campaign was conducted, I think there is real | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
anger not just about social care and how that policy unravelled within a | :17:10. | :17:11. | |
couple of days and had to be amended, but also the offerings on | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
tensions, benefits, on the triple lock, on the repeated mantra that | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
all Britain needed was strong and stable leadership, a campaign built | :17:22. | :17:25. | |
entirely around Theresa May. There was a lot of disquiet, particularly | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
in the last couple of weeks, about how this campaign had been wrong and | :17:31. | :17:34. | |
what it said about how Theresa May runs her inner circle. I think there | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
had already been demands for that to change. Had she won this election | :17:39. | :17:43. | |
comfortably and carried on as Prime Minister in the months and years | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
ahead, I think she would have been forced to make some changes on that | :17:47. | :17:49. | |
front. That might be watching was referring to. You say you were on | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
the campaign bus, and I know there was a lot of talk about, for | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
instance, Jeremy Corbyn would go and speak to 1000 people, or 2000 | :17:59. | :18:04. | |
people, and she would go into an empty factory, where 12 workers were | :18:05. | :18:09. | |
brought out to listen to her - was it actually like that, is that how | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
it felt, that she wasn't making any real eye contact with people, wasn't | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
arguing her case, was keeping away from the crowds? Not entirely fair. | :18:18. | :18:25. | |
I went to some of the factory visits, where often the workers in | :18:26. | :18:30. | |
these places were given no clue as to who was about to turn up, they | :18:31. | :18:36. | |
were just told a VIP was about to appear, and they were quite stand to | :18:37. | :18:39. | |
see the Prime Minister. She would then stay for up to half an hour, | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
taking any questions they wanted to ask. When you are in the workplace | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
setting, it is a bit odd quizzing the Prime Minister with no notice | :18:48. | :18:50. | |
of. But there was a degree of interaction. What there wasn't was | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
any of the colour and Carnival and the mass rallies that we saw from | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
Jeremy Corbyn. The Tory campaign was entirely different. On the whole, | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
Theresa May made the same short speech to 100, that's 200 Tory | :19:04. | :19:10. | |
activists who had been bussed into a venue, with messages given to them | :19:11. | :19:15. | |
by Tory party staffers, and it was often white hard to find a pulse on | :19:16. | :19:20. | |
this Tory campaign. It was not exciting, it was just a robotic | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
thing, driven, rammed home message, which did not change, really, join | :19:25. | :19:30. | |
the campaign. I think they will feel it did the job in terms of getting | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
the message onto the television screens, that was what the campaign | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
was about. It was only in the last couple of days that it had some feel | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
of a general election campaign, it had more pace, there were rallies | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
where Theresa May became more animated. But it felt a strange | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
campaign inside the bubble of it. Interesting picking up on what Ben | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
Wright was saying, inevitably, the blame game inside Tory headquarters | :19:56. | :20:03. | |
has already started. This campaign, like the previous ones, was run by | :20:04. | :20:06. | |
Lynton Crosby, the Australian suppose it my stroke. Sources inside | :20:07. | :20:13. | |
Tory HQ are telling me that Crosby's team did not understand Theresa May. | :20:14. | :20:18. | |
They did not get her, they did not understand her. They walked in with | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
their prepared attack lines about the coalition of chaos, and strong | :20:23. | :20:28. | |
and stable... And then what was describes me as sensible people who | :20:29. | :20:31. | |
knew Theresa May asked for changes in species and told Crosby that the | :20:32. | :20:36. | |
strong and stable slogan had become a joke, all those suggestions were | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
basically pushed out. Of course, everybody is now trying to rewrite | :20:43. | :20:45. | |
history and saying, of course I said it was going to be a disaster! But | :20:46. | :20:50. | |
it seems the public have rejected that much more controlled kind of | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
campaigning, very similar to what David Cameron did. Theresa May did | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
not play it any different to what David Cameron did under Lynton | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
Crosby. But it seems that model did not fit for her, a very different | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
kind of politician, and that kind of campaign just didn't work. Kamal | :21:08. | :21:13. | |
Ahmed, very briefly, and I will come back to you for the wider | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
implications - Stirling, what has happened, can you afford to go on | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
holiday any more? Just about, David, I'm sure you will be able to afford | :21:23. | :21:25. | |
it. I was asking on behalf of the US! We were here on Brexit night, | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
and the market has once again shown its unerring ability to misjudge | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
election outcomes. The market was positioned for a pretty solid | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
Theresa May majority. That didn't happen. From the moment of the exit | :21:42. | :21:45. | |
poll, Stirling has been weak, it has fallen by up to 2%. It has slightly | :21:46. | :21:54. | |
rallied. But if we think about where the economy is, when politics hits | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
the uncertainty button, the economy keeps going. Real incomes are still | :22:00. | :22:06. | |
falling, rove has slowed down, and now the uncertainty around the | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
direction of travel for the Government on tackling these big | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
economic issues has only increased, overlaid on the Brexit issue and how | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
the Government is going to negotiate with Europe in this tight time | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
frame. That is going to mean a weaker pound, investors being more | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
nervous about the UK. At the same time as, in the Eurozone, for | :22:27. | :22:35. | |
example, growth has increased, and in America, growth is coming back. | :22:36. | :22:40. | |
And so, for investors, they have got options, where they put their money. | :22:41. | :22:44. | |
Lowball capital is global capital. And that will be the worry for | :22:45. | :22:49. | |
investors and businesses in the UK about, we have this period of | :22:50. | :22:54. | |
uncertainty, overlaid on Brexit, that is only going to cause the UK | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
economy more problems, and those deep-seated problems, like real | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
incomes falling will not be tackled by the Government, because the | :23:02. | :23:05. | |
Government will not be clear on what its political approach will be. | :23:06. | :23:13. | |
Let's have a look at these seats. The updated prediction now, | :23:14. | :23:18. | |
remember, the Conservatives needed 326 to have a majority, they're 12 | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
short, and Labour is on 260. We have not looked at for some time, for | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
people who have just got up and want to see it, some of the key | :23:31. | :23:34. | |
constituencies which told the story tonight - can we do that? It has | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
been a night of the big beasts with some pretty poignant losses, and one | :23:41. | :23:43. | |
of those was in Sheffield Hallam. Nick Clegg saying that he never | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
shirk from fighting political battles and that he stood up in the | :23:49. | :23:51. | |
national interest to form that coalition with the Conservatives. | :23:52. | :23:54. | |
But here, you can see what happened possibly as a result of that, or | :23:55. | :24:00. | |
possibly as a result of Labour straightening here. The seat has | :24:01. | :24:07. | |
been taken from the click by Labour. It was on the Labour target list but | :24:08. | :24:14. | |
there was quite forlorn moment, watching Nick Clegg realise that his | :24:15. | :24:21. | |
political future, in terms of his constituency MP work, had ended | :24:22. | :24:27. | |
tonight. So, a 4% swing to Labour from the Lib Dems. We also saw Angus | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
Robertson, was always on that list, the SNP leader in Westminster, often | :24:33. | :24:40. | |
called, in the old days, the voice of real opposition to the | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
Conservatives, in the days when the SNP were not taking Labour very | :24:45. | :24:47. | |
seriously. He has lost his seat, been replaced by Douglas Ross for | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
the Conservatives. Gordon, a real big beast here, Alex Salmond, losing | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
this seat. He took it from the Lib Dems, and now the Conservatives have | :24:58. | :25:04. | |
taken it from the SNP. So, that loss of some big figures. In Twickenham, | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
Vince Cable is back for the Lib Dems. They have lost Nick Clegg, but | :25:10. | :25:15. | |
possibly Vince Cable coming in there again. Hastings, Amber Rudd, the | :25:16. | :25:23. | |
Home Secretary, just holding on, after two recounts in which she | :25:24. | :25:30. | |
looked vulnerable. And Caroline Lucas has increased majority, she | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
has virtually doubled it, she is now at nearly 15,000 majority, an | :25:36. | :25:46. | |
astonishing personal performance for a very popular Ringleader as well as | :25:47. | :26:03. | |
MP. -- very popular Green leader. We have an announcement coming... | :26:04. | :26:09. | |
Scottish Labour Party, 4026. Scottish National Party, 13,743. | :26:10. | :26:21. | |
Tony Macklin is capable Scottish Conservative unionist party, 10,088. | :26:22. | :26:42. | |
Scottish Liberal Democrats, 13,741. Independent Sovereign Democratic | :26:43. | :26:49. | |
Briton, 224. The total number of ballot papers allocated, 41,822... | :26:50. | :26:54. | |
So, the SNP holds on by two votes! The Liberal Democrats very nearly | :26:55. | :27:12. | |
took the seat. Can I thank you for your ordinary efforts tonight in | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
what has been quite an extraordinary evening. Thank you to you. Can I | :27:17. | :27:23. | |
thank Elizabeth, Tony and Rosalind for a well fought campaign, thank | :27:24. | :27:26. | |
you for the campaign that we fought. It has been a close one, it's fair | :27:27. | :27:40. | |
to say! Can I also thank the volunteers, first of all my | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
extraordinary team, thank you. Second, the volunteers from every | :27:45. | :27:48. | |
political party that make democracy work, and have been trudging around | :27:49. | :27:52. | |
in the pouring rain today. You have my thanks as well. And finally, | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
presiding Officer, on a personal note, my wife had a baby halfway | :27:58. | :28:03. | |
through this election. She has been an absolute hero. Thank you. We will | :28:04. | :28:08. | |
leave five Northeast. The last election as close as that was Mark | :28:09. | :28:15. | |
oaten, in Winchester, way back. He had a majority of two and there was | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
a legal challenge and the election was fought again, and he then won. | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
By a landslide. Barry Gardiner, the shadow | :28:22. | :28:30. | |
international Trade Secretary. He joins us from Brent North. Good | :28:31. | :28:38. | |
morning. Good morning. So what do you make of all this? It has been an | :28:39. | :28:45. | |
extraordinary night. If you look back seven weeks to what was being | :28:46. | :28:48. | |
predicted in the broadsheets, the Prime Minister expected a floodgate, | :28:49. | :28:59. | |
a tsunami. She was looking at a 120-150 seat majority, and she said | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
she needed this in order to be able to negotiate in Europe a good Brexit | :29:04. | :29:10. | |
deal for the UK. We are now in a situation which is far less about | :29:11. | :29:14. | |
which party is up and down, it's much more about the fact that in a | :29:15. | :29:23. | |
week, we will be the -- starting negotiations. She has gambled and | :29:24. | :29:31. | |
has lost. It is written that has lost, because she will go into that | :29:32. | :29:36. | |
negotiation and be considered a laughing stock with those whom she | :29:37. | :29:43. | |
has to negotiate with. -- it is Britain that has lost. Have you | :29:44. | :29:49. | |
spoken to Jeremy Corbyn, your party leader? John McDonnell? Not since | :29:50. | :29:58. | |
the election results, no. You didn't expect this to happen, did you? You | :29:59. | :30:02. | |
are taken by surprise, like many other Labour Party people? Sorry, I | :30:03. | :30:09. | |
was working to win this election... I said you didn't expect it to | :30:10. | :30:14. | |
happen. I didn't take anything for granted, but I have to say I didn't | :30:15. | :30:19. | |
have an expectation, because there are real storms sweeping across | :30:20. | :30:23. | |
British politics. Rex it was one of them. This was a general election | :30:24. | :30:29. | |
which proved very difficult for the Conservatives. -- Brexit was one of | :30:30. | :30:33. | |
them. In terms of their manifesto, but also it was blighted by the | :30:34. | :30:38. | |
appalling events of Manchester and London Bridge. So there are very | :30:39. | :30:43. | |
different, swirling measures that meant this was a very difficult | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
election to predict. So what I concentrated on was the manifesto we | :30:50. | :30:53. | |
had, the clarity of our policies, my belief that they were the right | :30:54. | :30:59. | |
actions to take to help people in this country who really needed a | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
change of government. And needed a fairer society. And I deeply, deeply | :31:04. | :31:09. | |
disappointed that we didn't manage achieve a Labour victory so we could | :31:10. | :31:15. | |
put those policies into effect. Put it this way, are you concerned... | :31:16. | :31:21. | |
You talked about Brexit talks starting in 11 days. You think the | :31:22. | :31:27. | |
Prime Minister will have to go? Do you expect to still be on the | :31:28. | :31:33. | |
opposition benches, facing a Prime Minister supported maybe by the | :31:34. | :31:36. | |
Northern Ireland parties? What do you think the future in Parliament | :31:37. | :31:42. | |
is? Look, probably there are only two people who know that. Theresa | :31:43. | :31:47. | |
May and her husband. She is in the driving seat in this, but of course | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
she has lost the confidence of her party. That is very, very clear. It | :31:52. | :31:58. | |
really is a matter of what she can broker within the Conservative | :31:59. | :32:02. | |
Party. But this is a time when she should be focusing on what she can | :32:03. | :32:06. | |
broker within Europe. That is why it's so deeply damaging to our | :32:07. | :32:11. | |
nation. Politics is not a game between the political parties. It's | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
ultimately supposed to be about the benefit of the British people, and | :32:17. | :32:19. | |
she has put that all in jeopardy by this, and she has lost. Barry | :32:20. | :32:26. | |
Gardiner, thank you for joining us. He started by describing it as an | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
extraordinary night. I have pulled out three tweets which tell the | :32:31. | :32:35. | |
story succinctly. The first, from Fraser Nelson, the editor of the | :32:36. | :32:40. | |
Spectator. If Corbyn does take Labour to 40%, he will have done | :32:41. | :32:46. | |
more to increase the party vote share since Clement Attlee in 1945. | :32:47. | :32:57. | |
The second, Mark Wallace. An of the record quote from a Tory MP, we | :32:58. | :33:03. | |
basically ran the Remain campaign, it was just about doom and disaster | :33:04. | :33:06. | |
if you vote the other way. Recriminations about how inside Tory | :33:07. | :33:12. | |
HQ they are thinking about what went wrong. And now the more panoramic, | :33:13. | :33:17. | |
major story of this evening which we will talk about for months and years | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
ahead. Harry Smith, a 94-year-old Labour activist who served in the | :33:23. | :33:26. | |
Second World War, very trenchant online. He says, this morning, | :33:27. | :33:32. | |
Britain's Young have shown they can become the greatest generation of | :33:33. | :33:36. | |
the 21st century. You have my respect. This has been about young | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
people coming out and swinging party towards Jeremy Corbyn and taking | :33:41. | :33:46. | |
many of us buy supplies. Thanks. We know that the Prime Minister has | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
gone back to Number Ten. -- many of us by surprise. Jeremy Vine is | :33:52. | :34:00. | |
outside. People are waking up and wondering what we have been through | :34:01. | :34:04. | |
with this extraordinary result. Let's take you through it, how by | :34:05. | :34:09. | |
hour. Until 2am, the first handful of seats, you can see that seats | :34:10. | :34:17. | |
Labour thought were maybe on the edge of being marginal, Hartlepool, | :34:18. | :34:24. | |
the Vale of Clwyd, they stayed Labour. Labour were defending their | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
territory. The Conservatives took Angus in Scotland, which it look | :34:30. | :34:32. | |
like they had no prospect of doing, on paper. At 3am, let's see what we | :34:33. | :34:40. | |
knew. By this stage, looking at the Labour line, they have taken | :34:41. | :34:45. | |
Sheffield Hallam, Nick Clegg is out of the House of Commons. Glasgow | :34:46. | :34:49. | |
North East goes Labour. An interesting result in Scotland. | :34:50. | :34:56. | |
Ipswich goes from blue to red. Very interesting. The Conservatives | :34:57. | :35:02. | |
hanging on to what they have got, Cleethorpes for example, but they | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
would expect to hang onto those kinds of seats. What are they doing | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
to move them forward? Nothing outside Scotland at all. | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
At 4am, you can see Batley and Spen for Labour, the late Jo Cox's | :35:14. | :35:23. | |
constituency that came back as Labour. In London, Labour posted | :35:24. | :35:29. | |
quite high percentages in places like Vauxhall and Brent and | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
Hammersmith and Dagenham. Underpinning this idea that in | :35:34. | :35:36. | |
Remain seats, particularly those with lots of young voters, Labour | :35:37. | :35:42. | |
were doing very well indeed. Scotland was constantly offsetting | :35:43. | :35:45. | |
the bad news for the Conservatives in the meantime. Aberdeenshire West, | :35:46. | :35:52. | |
Stirling, Berwickshire, all going to the Conservatives in Scotland, | :35:53. | :35:56. | |
against any predictions made. At 5am, we are nearly there... | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
The Conservatives get the result of Hastings. Amber Rudd, the Home | :36:02. | :36:09. | |
Secretary's constituency. That was very, very close. She would not have | :36:10. | :36:13. | |
been expecting to be in that nip and tuck fight in Hastings, but that was | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
the case with quite a few Conservative seats. Meanwhile, OK, | :36:19. | :36:22. | |
Labour are behind by doing much better than anyone expected. They | :36:23. | :36:27. | |
take Enfield, Southgate off the Conservatives, the history of that | :36:28. | :36:30. | |
seat with Michael Portillo being kicked out by Tony Blair's party in | :36:31. | :36:36. | |
1997. A 10% swing for Labour in that seat. By six o'clock, let's bring on | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
the rest. The Conservatives are ahead, but we knew by this stage | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
they weren't going to make the finishing line of 326. They took | :36:46. | :36:53. | |
Southampton, chipping barnet, but they would never have expected to be | :36:54. | :36:58. | |
in trouble in those safe seats. Labour at this point, you can see | :36:59. | :37:08. | |
Southampton, Gloria de Piero's seat. Hove had been assumed to be pretty | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
marginal but Labour took it. Held it. So what a situation. We are very | :37:13. | :37:23. | |
near the line. We have not yet got every seat. If they are dark blue, | :37:24. | :37:29. | |
dark red, we don't know the final result. Truro, Cornwall Southeast, | :37:30. | :37:37. | |
Crewe, Cornwall North, Kensington... But the one thing we do know, the | :37:38. | :37:41. | |
Conservatives cannot make this 326 line. That is just over half the | :37:42. | :37:49. | |
total number of MPs in the House of Parliament. They can't do it, and | :37:50. | :37:52. | |
therefore it has been a terrible, terrible mistake for Theresa May to | :37:53. | :37:59. | |
throw away the majority won by David Cameron in 2015. Yes, Labour have | :38:00. | :38:02. | |
come second but they have done far better than almost anyone expected. | :38:03. | :38:06. | |
David, that is the story. Amazing. Laura Kuenssberg, our political | :38:07. | :38:14. | |
editor, has been sitting here since ten o'clock last night. You have to | :38:15. | :38:18. | |
go to Downing Street. Do we know when Theresa May is speaking? We | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
thought it might be ten o'clock, but we are told it is not, so I'm going | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
to go, in case it is sooner than that. Just summarise for us how you | :38:27. | :38:34. | |
think things stand, and the way you think politics will develop at | :38:35. | :38:40. | |
Westminster over the next few days? Unquestionably, a total political | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
disaster for Theresa May. This is on her, it was her decision to do it. A | :38:44. | :38:49. | |
huge success were Jeremy Corbyn. Not the largest party but he has | :38:50. | :38:54. | |
massively outperformed expectations. -- for Jeremy Corbyn. He has | :38:55. | :38:58. | |
achieved far more than he himself thought. The hat-trick, if you like. | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
He won the lass ship against expectation. -- the Labour | :39:04. | :39:12. | |
leadership. He survived the contest. He has performed better than Labour | :39:13. | :39:19. | |
in 2015 and 2010. A huge success. For us, we know the Tories are the | :39:20. | :39:22. | |
largest party and they have the right to try and form the | :39:23. | :39:26. | |
Government. They are tantalisingly close to actually getting a | :39:27. | :39:30. | |
majority, and they would have a workable majority because we know | :39:31. | :39:35. | |
the Northern Ireland Unionist MPs would come alongside them. But we do | :39:36. | :39:42. | |
not know at the moment if Theresa May is the person to try to form | :39:43. | :39:47. | |
that government. It may be her. She may be forced to stay on as a sort | :39:48. | :39:52. | |
of caretaker and do some kind of deal behind-the-scenes about | :39:53. | :39:56. | |
standing down later on. She may decide to quit after this | :39:57. | :40:01. | |
humiliation. Or she may be privately being forced to do so right now. So | :40:02. | :40:05. | |
we know the result but we don't know for sure who our Prime Minister is | :40:06. | :40:09. | |
going to be. Tell us about Jeremy Corbyn's character. He must be tough | :40:10. | :40:14. | |
as old boots having gone through that campaign, having been monster | :40:15. | :40:21. | |
by the press. -- monstered by the press. 80% of his own MPs against | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
him. In visible on the backbenches all of his career, generally known | :40:28. | :40:32. | |
for voting against everything... A protester, indeed. The one thing we | :40:33. | :40:37. | |
have always known about Jeremy Corbyn is he thrives on campaigning. | :40:38. | :40:42. | |
He has been a protester, a campaigner. He was a political | :40:43. | :40:47. | |
outsider. The gamble for the Labour Party was whether an outsider could | :40:48. | :40:51. | |
ever have enough appeal to the floating voter, the person in the | :40:52. | :40:55. | |
middle. Watching him over the last couple of years, even though he has | :40:56. | :40:59. | |
had brickbats thrown at him by his own party, you see he has drawn | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
energy from the campaigning that he has had to do. Day by Day in this | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
campaign, it was almost like he was plugging in a charger to the crowd | :41:08. | :41:12. | |
to get his energy to keep him going. That's what we have seen here. A | :41:13. | :41:17. | |
protester turned campaigner that has been reinforced. How will he take to | :41:18. | :41:22. | |
success? A whole different ball game. He has had success in his own | :41:23. | :41:29. | |
way. On one of the last days of campaigning, he said it's not just | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
about electing MPs. My normal campaigning and convention you say, | :41:35. | :41:39. | |
it's only about electing MPs, that is the point. Most people thought it | :41:40. | :41:45. | |
is eight crackpot view, not about winning, but most people would say | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
it is a movement. But that formula has got the Labour Party further | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
along the line than its last couple of leaders. Quite something. An | :41:56. | :42:01. | |
amazing achievement, but clearly they are not the largest party. No | :42:02. | :42:05. | |
question it is the Tory party that will try to form the Government. So | :42:06. | :42:10. | |
while Labour have had an extremely good night, it's not the situation | :42:11. | :42:14. | |
that somehow he has actually been able to overthrow that. But once | :42:15. | :42:20. | |
again, just as in 2015, just as in the referendum, the Great British | :42:21. | :42:24. | |
public have thrillingly, audaciously, boldly reminded the | :42:25. | :42:27. | |
political established that they are the ones who call the shots. That is | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
why these nights are so exciting. Laura Kuenssberg, you had better get | :42:33. | :42:38. | |
down to Number Ten. We are going to go down there to join John Pienaar, | :42:39. | :42:43. | |
waiting for you to arrive. Good morning to you. I suppose the | :42:44. | :42:50. | |
obvious question is, first of all, do you have any news about what the | :42:51. | :42:53. | |
Prime Minister is going to do? And secondly, what are your reflections | :42:54. | :42:54. | |
on the campaign? The news is that there is no news. | :42:55. | :43:07. | |
It is anyone's guess, about what the Prime Minister will do after this | :43:08. | :43:22. | |
most Phyrric of election victories. We will find out when she makes that | :43:23. | :43:28. | |
statement. I was in contact by text with a senior Tory figure just a few | :43:29. | :43:33. | |
moments ago, asking, would Theresa May be soldiering on, and the answer | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
was, no idea. I think he would have been speaking for an awful lot of | :43:40. | :43:43. | |
people when he said that. Suggesting not too subtly that she should fall | :43:44. | :43:47. | |
on her sword, one person saying. Another figure in the party, Jacob | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
Rees Mogg am saying, we need that stability, she needs to stick | :43:52. | :43:54. | |
around. And then, another member of the 1922 Committee, the tribal | :43:55. | :43:59. | |
odours of the Tory party, his position was, this is the wrong time | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
to go, with the Brexit negotiations just a few days away. We will wait | :44:04. | :44:07. | |
and see. We will have that statement before too long. I would imagine, if | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
she sticks around, we will see a significant change in her way of | :44:13. | :44:14. | |
running the party and the government. Not just because she | :44:15. | :44:18. | |
will see that is necessary but because I think the party around her | :44:19. | :44:23. | |
will be insisting that that is what happens, and that will take a number | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
of different forms, I think. You will see the Prime Minister being | :44:28. | :44:30. | |
pressed to listen much more carefully to the party at large, to | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
her MPs, to the tribal elders of the 1922 Committee. In Whitehall, around | :44:36. | :44:40. | |
here, there are very senior civil servants who say privately that they | :44:41. | :44:43. | |
want to see their departments, their voices, not just heard but he did in | :44:44. | :44:49. | |
number 10 Downing Street. We know how Theresa May relies very closely | :44:50. | :44:52. | |
on a very small circle of close senior advisers. Many people feel | :44:53. | :44:56. | |
excluded from all of that fish you will see MPs and senior civil | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
servants in a more deferential sort of way looking for that circle to be | :45:02. | :45:05. | |
widened, for the listening to be made rather more attentive and for | :45:06. | :45:11. | |
what they say to be responded to. All of that is for the future. And | :45:12. | :45:15. | |
while, today, we will hear from the Prime Minister a little later on, | :45:16. | :45:21. | |
having absorbed what has happened overnight, telling us weather she is | :45:22. | :45:25. | |
going to carry on. Meanwhile, the Labour Party will be considering its | :45:26. | :45:28. | |
own future, which now looks so very different. We have had a realignment | :45:29. | :45:32. | |
of British politics overnight - and that's not overstating it. Thank you | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
very much indeed, that was a great help to us. We will be back in the | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
street when the Prime Minister comes out to speak. Can we look at a | :45:43. | :45:49. | |
summary of how things stand? Yes. Imagine if you were a normal person, | :45:50. | :45:54. | |
if you stayed up to watch the exit poll at ten clock and a new thought, | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
I will go to bed and wake up in the morning and see what has happened. | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
That exit polls which John Curtice brought us suggested the | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
Conservatives would be on about 314 seats, Labour would be on 256. It is | :46:07. | :46:11. | |
impossible for you to imagine the kind of turmoil which all of us in | :46:12. | :46:15. | |
the studio have been through, wondering just how accurate that | :46:16. | :46:22. | |
would be. Well, look. At this time of the morning, coming up to seven | :46:23. | :46:26. | |
o'clock, these are the seats which are in, and they are nearly all | :46:27. | :46:35. | |
counted. The Conservatives sitting on 313 - they have lost 12. Labour | :46:36. | :46:41. | |
sitting on 260 - they have made gains of 29 so far with six or seven | :46:42. | :46:48. | |
still remaining. The SNP on 35, we predicted they would be down by 22, | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
they have lost 21. The Lib Dems we said would be on 12, and they have | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
done just that. What I want to do is to show you what this looks like as | :46:59. | :47:03. | |
a percentage of the vote. Suddenly, it all becomes an extraordinary and | :47:04. | :47:09. | |
stock story when you tell it, as we have been looking at it, in terms of | :47:10. | :47:18. | |
these poll numbers. Labour, just two percentage points behind the | :47:19. | :47:22. | |
Conservatives. The SNP on only 3%, even though they have all of those | :47:23. | :47:28. | |
seats in Scotland. And the Greens, only one point behind them, even | :47:29. | :47:35. | |
though they just have that one seat. But this is the moment which is | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
quite a triumph for our exit pollsters. This is what we brought | :47:41. | :47:46. | |
you at the beginning of the night. This is what we suggested. Showing | :47:47. | :47:59. | |
Labour up, Ukip and the SNP down, amongst others. That is what we gave | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
you. We held our breath, we tried not to tremble when we showed you | :48:05. | :48:08. | |
the results on air. And these are the results, with nearly all of them | :48:09. | :48:12. | |
in. And you can see just how similar those patterns are. Labour up 10%, | :48:13. | :48:22. | |
the Conservatives up 6% and the other is pretty much in line. So | :48:23. | :48:26. | |
this is the moment where you will probably want to turn to John | :48:27. | :48:30. | |
Curtice with a big pat on the back. John Curtice is beaming with | :48:31. | :48:33. | |
pleasure, hearing that. Does the exit poll deserve a pat on the back? | :48:34. | :48:40. | |
Well, I hope you found it useful and that it helped to inform your | :48:41. | :48:44. | |
coverage during the course of the night, David. The crucial thing | :48:45. | :48:47. | |
about the exit polls is not necessarily whether it is right or | :48:48. | :48:50. | |
wrong, but it gives people a guide as to what the results might be. You | :48:51. | :48:54. | |
will remember that actually, very early in the night, it was not clear | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
that it was right, because most of the results came in from the | :48:59. | :49:02. | |
north-east, particularly Newcastle and Sunderland, and the exit polls | :49:03. | :49:06. | |
overestimated how Labour would do in that part of the world. But while | :49:07. | :49:10. | |
that was going on, we were hearing all sorts of commentary about what | :49:11. | :49:14. | |
was going on in seats further south, particularly crucial marginal seats. | :49:15. | :49:18. | |
And it was fairly clear to us early on that we have got the broad | :49:19. | :49:22. | |
picture right. And therefore hopefully it means that the | :49:23. | :49:26. | |
programme started off on the right leg. But it is not just me, I have a | :49:27. | :49:31. | |
wonderful set of colleagues here who have done an awful lot of computer | :49:32. | :49:35. | |
programming and hard work, not just tonight but all the way through the | :49:36. | :49:39. | |
election campaign. And of course, the interviewers from Ipsa Smillie | :49:40. | :49:43. | |
and JFK, stood outside polling stations, in some cases in inclement | :49:44. | :49:48. | |
weather, collecting the data. We could not have got this right but | :49:49. | :49:55. | |
for the data they collected, which fruit for the most part to be highly | :49:56. | :49:59. | |
accurate. So you're just the front man? I hope I might have contributed | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
something to the analysis, and my colleagues might agree! But without | :50:05. | :50:08. | |
their support, I would not be...! You're just the public face! Sky, | :50:09. | :50:16. | |
ITV, BBC... The reason it is a co-operative poll is because we used | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
to get it, everybody had a different one and then blame the other lot for | :50:21. | :50:25. | |
getting it wrong. John, thank you very much and congratulations on it. | :50:26. | :50:30. | |
Let's join Michelle for a moment up in the gods. I am sitting here with | :50:31. | :50:36. | |
David Lammy MP, Labour MP for Tottenham, comfortably re-elected | :50:37. | :50:38. | |
earlier on. Congratulations on that. You have been a prominent Remain | :50:39. | :50:44. | |
campaigner, you voted against the triggering of Article 50 - want to | :50:45. | :50:49. | |
ask what you think tonight means for the Brexit process. George Osborne | :50:50. | :50:53. | |
has said hard Brexit is now in the bin. I think George Osborne is | :50:54. | :50:58. | |
right. Theresa May had committed to leaving the single market, she had | :50:59. | :51:00. | |
committed to leaving the customs union. She asked the country to back | :51:01. | :51:05. | |
her, give her a bigger majority, that now lies in tatters. There has | :51:06. | :51:10. | |
to be now a different course. And I might say that MPs like Ken Clarke, | :51:11. | :51:16. | |
like Anna Soubry, MPs that do not want a hard Brexit, are emboldened | :51:17. | :51:23. | |
within the party, with such a small minority government which | :51:24. | :51:27. | |
effectively she has to form. In a sense, you voted against triggering | :51:28. | :51:30. | |
Article 50, Jeremy Corbyn, your leader, took a different position - | :51:31. | :51:35. | |
in the end, his approach, perhaps that was one of the keys to holding | :51:36. | :51:39. | |
together the disparate groups of Labour voters and delivering this | :51:40. | :51:44. | |
result. My view remains largely the view of London, and you have seen a | :51:45. | :51:47. | |
massive Remain position here in London, where Labour have done well. | :51:48. | :51:53. | |
But of course, across the country it looks like Jeremy Corbyn got it | :51:54. | :52:00. | |
right. His assessment was, we have to have a Brexit but broadly, it has | :52:01. | :52:06. | |
to be a soft Brexit. And that has shined in the country. That's why | :52:07. | :52:12. | |
those predictions that we would lose the north of England, that white | :52:13. | :52:16. | |
working-class Britain had deserted Labour, this morning were proved | :52:17. | :52:20. | |
wrong. Jeremy and the Labour Party have kept those seats in Yorkshire, | :52:21. | :52:23. | |
the north-east and north-west. Against your expectations but are we | :52:24. | :52:28. | |
actually my view was always the expectation that those Ukip voters | :52:29. | :52:32. | |
would just go to the Conservatives was an overstatement. I know why | :52:33. | :52:36. | |
colleagues feared it, but actually, we have seen a third of those voters | :52:37. | :52:45. | |
coming over to Labour. I'm joined now by Peter Hennessy, who has | :52:46. | :52:49. | |
arrived with a book called The Cabinet Manual. Just describe to us, | :52:50. | :52:56. | |
is the process of continuing the governments of Britain complex or is | :52:57. | :53:02. | |
it straightforward? I rarely leave home without this Cabinet manual, | :53:03. | :53:07. | |
but it is quite complicated. Politics can always make a | :53:08. | :53:11. | |
difference to the prescribed drills. After a night of political | :53:12. | :53:18. | |
convulsion, I fear for Mrs May. My old friend John Ramsey, historian of | :53:19. | :53:22. | |
the Conservative Party, once describe the Tory leadership as | :53:23. | :53:24. | |
autocracy tempered by assassination. The big question is, will she be | :53:25. | :53:29. | |
assassinated by her own hand, by other people sounds, sooner rather | :53:30. | :53:33. | |
than later? It's going to be the most extraordinary day. For the last | :53:34. | :53:38. | |
briefing elections, we have had a drill laid out, we never had it | :53:39. | :53:42. | |
before. But there is a drill for it in here, the ministers resigning | :53:43. | :53:46. | |
either individually or on behalf of their own government. What about not | :53:47. | :53:50. | |
resigning, with a minority government, is there a drill for | :53:51. | :53:54. | |
that? There's several drills, they're all in here. Several drills? | :53:55. | :53:58. | |
Several possibilities, whether you do a deal, whether you have a line | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
of confidence, or whether you try and soldier it out as the largest | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
single party. But I think she will go and call upon the Queen, if she | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
follows Ted heath's pattern in 1974, he went to see the Queen to explain | :54:13. | :54:16. | |
what he was going to try to do over the weekend, in terms of doing deals | :54:17. | :54:20. | |
with the Liberals and a few from Northern Ireland, so I think that | :54:21. | :54:23. | |
President will probably be followed, but who knows? We are coming up to | :54:24. | :54:29. | |
seven o'clock, and there is a shift change coming now. That they just | :54:30. | :54:34. | |
work it out. Jeremy Vine is staying, yes? Michelle, your work is done... | :54:35. | :54:43. | |
And you're going home. Emily? Staining. You're staying right | :54:44. | :54:47. | |
through the day. Are you staying or going? Going. And you're going? Not | :54:48. | :54:56. | |
home, I'm going back to... We have got jobs to do, David! We have got | :54:57. | :55:04. | |
day jobs! We have been on the air all the way through the night, it | :55:05. | :55:07. | |
has been the most fascinating night, I don't think any of six, when we | :55:08. | :55:12. | |
sat down here, when I got that exit poll in that secret room out the | :55:13. | :55:18. | |
back and we looked at it aghast, we could not believe it, in fact I will | :55:19. | :55:22. | |
put it on eBay one day! Nothing had prepared us for it. Politics is | :55:23. | :55:27. | |
always surprising, who politics is exciting. And one of the complaints | :55:28. | :55:32. | |
often, particularly among young people, is that they find it boring. | :55:33. | :55:36. | |
This election showed that young people can be energised by politics. | :55:37. | :55:40. | |
That's really what Jeremy Corbyn managed to do, he managed to get | :55:41. | :55:44. | |
people really involved and intrigued by it and seeing a different way of | :55:45. | :55:48. | |
doing politics, not just the same old way. And I said earlier on that | :55:49. | :55:53. | |
here the fascinating thing is that we have reverted effectively to a | :55:54. | :55:59. | |
two-party system, an absolute binary choice between the Tory party and | :56:00. | :56:02. | |
the Labour Party, the other parties have fallen aside. For the first | :56:03. | :56:07. | |
time since 1970, we have 13.5 million Tory, nearly 13,000,004 | :56:08. | :56:15. | |
Labour. So, the bulk of voters - and we still have to find out who they | :56:16. | :56:19. | |
were, what the young kid, what the old did, what the people in the | :56:20. | :56:23. | |
towns in the cities did, all that stuff - but nevertheless, we have | :56:24. | :56:27. | |
moved back towards two-party politics. All to play for no, | :56:28. | :56:31. | |
because Theresa May, as we have been saying, must be under extreme | :56:32. | :56:34. | |
pressure, having originally called this election, the guaranteed | :56:35. | :56:39. | |
certainty and stability for the years ahead. Our coverage carries on | :56:40. | :56:45. | |
on BBC One throughout the day. There will be all kinds of developments | :56:46. | :56:48. | |
and Huw Edwards will be back in the chair here to take us through the | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
afternoon and no doubt into this evening, as we work out the | :56:53. | :56:56. | |
ramifications of what has happened. But | :56:57. | :56:57. |