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The former Bosnian Serb military commander makes a disruptive

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appearance at the International War crimes Tribunal in the Hague.

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Ratko Mladic was removed from court after arguing with the judge and

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refusing to answer charges of genocide and war crimes. The court

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orders that you be removed from the courtroom. Could security police

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escort Mr Mladic out of the court room? This is not a court! Who are

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you?! You were not allowing me to A welcome to GMT. I am Naga

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Munchetty. Also in the programme, divisions of Libya in the spotlight

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as Russia and NATO hold talks. Poised to become the first female

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Prime Minister of Thailand, Yingluck Shinawatra announces her

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plans for the country. It is 12:30pm London, 6:30pm in

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Bangkok and 1:30pm in the Netherlands where the former

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Bosnian Serb Butler military commander Ratko Mladic has appeared

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in front of the International War crimes court in the Hague. But --

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military commander. It was a brief appearance as he was removed from

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port after -- removed from court after disrupting proceedings and

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refusing to enter a plea. The International Criminal Tribunal

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was now in session. From the outset, the judges were in for a difficult

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morning in court. Remove your cab, please. Not for the first time,

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General Mladic tried to insist on wearing a cap in court. Mr Justice

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Alphons Orie was having none of it. Could Mr Mladic be assisted in

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taking off his cap? Thank you very much. General Mladic was also

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reprimanded for communicating with the public gallery. Mr Mladic, if

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you continue to address the public gallery, rather than the chamber,

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as I said before, matters will be taken. TRANSLATION: Mr Alphons Orie,

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I am not underestimating you in any way. I hear better in my left ear

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and eye and called on my head. Let me put my cap on. Half of my body

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is not functioning. I'm not underestimating you in any way. I

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want to communicate with their in a humane way. You were trying to

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impose impossible conditions on me. A lawyer I do not want. I'm just

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going to look at you. The Attorney appointed by the court to represent

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Ratko Mladic had been told he was not wanted. TRANSLATION: This

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morning, when he came to the tribunal, General Mladic refused to

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communicate with me and he did not want me to be present here this

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morning. General Mladic said he wanted to appoint two Attorneys

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himself. TRANSLATION: Know, no, I am not going to listen to this.

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atmosphere became more heated when he refused to listen to the judge.

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TRANSLATION: You were talking in vain and I will not listen to this.

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Mr Mladic, Mr Mladic... The court orders that you be removed from the

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courtroom. Could security police escort Mr Mladic out of the court

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room? It was a session of extraordinary legal confrontation.

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One that was not totally unexpected. TRANSLATION: This is not a court.

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Who why you? Ratko Mladic was taken out of the Court and later pleas of

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not guilty were entered on his behalf.

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Some of the other stories making headlines around the world today, a

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British soldier has gone missing from his base in Afghanistan.

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Military sources say he left the base in central Helmand province

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alone on Monday morning at his disappearance is described as

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highly unusual. The soldier's family has been informed. More on

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this from the Afghan capital. Quentin Sommerville is in Kabul.

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What has happened here? As he said in the introduction, this has been

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described as highly unusual. A soldier left the base this morning

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in the early hours of darkness. He left the base alone and soldiers

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never do that in that part of the province, where there are still

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many Taliban surrounding the area. It is a very dangerous area.

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Soldiers always go on patrol together. Certainly, they never

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leave alone. It was an unplanned departure from the base. He

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disappeared. There is a major search and rescue operation using

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for the soldier. At the same time, the Taliban in the area have told

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the BBC that they have captured a foreign soldier in this vicinity

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and that he was killed in an exchange of gunfire with

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international troops. The Taliban often make exaggerated claims and

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we have had no confirmation of that incident from the international

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security mission. They are saying that they are looking for the

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soldier and that the family have been informed of his disappearance.

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Authorities have not been able to confirm if any gun battles took

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place with the Taliban? They have denied that a gun battle took place.

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One military source here says that soldiers do not behave like this,

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they do not just wander off in hostile territory in the middle of

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the night. There is confusion as to what he is -- has taken place here

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and where or why the soldier left, twice he decided to leave alone at

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this time. As I said, his family have been informed but beyond that,

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there are few other details. The MoD has been confirming that he is

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a British soldier. From sources in that part of the province, we have

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heard that there is a large operation going on, that the

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international mission is throwing everything they have at trying to

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find the soldier. Even Afghans sources, the army is involved in

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the search. -- Afghan sources. The European Union is sending

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almost $15 million worth of emergency food aid to North Korea,

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where it says more than 500,000 people are at risk of dying from

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malnutrition. The European Commission says that it has agreed

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unprecedented right to monitor how the food is delivered, including

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unrestricted access to make random checks.

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The Burmese pro-democracy leader on sand shoes she is making her first

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trip outside the main city of Rangoon since her release last year.

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-- and San Suchi. She's making a trip to an ancient temple city who

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has -- with one of her sons, who has described the trip as a holiday.

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In theory, and San Suchi is free to travel.

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Reports from the City of Hamma in Syria say that tanks have moved

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away from the city. Residents say the tanks are moving war -- moving

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north towards the province of Idlib. Dozens were arrested in Hamma on

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Sunday, two days after the largest anti-government demonstration in

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the city. Still to come:, the latest on the

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winner of Thailand's general election. Also... TRANSLATION: If

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we destroy the forest, there will be no shade. There will be wind and

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the ground will overheat and burn up. That is my fear. A warning from

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Amazonian tribes people as the Brazilian government assesses a

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Fforest code designed to protect its great rainforest. -- a forest

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code. Time for the business news with Aaron Heselhurst. Greece,

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perhaps(!)? Lot of development. UN officials have made -- given the

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thumbs-up for money to be released to Greece. That means that Athens

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can pay off some of its debt over the summer. However, there is a

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spanner in the works, possibly, because Standard and Poor's, the

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global credit rating agency says that the current rescue package, in

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their eyes, would be deemed as a default. Eurozone officials have

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been trying to avoid a word. They're talking about the plan to

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rollover debts, meaning that instead of collecting the money

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owned -- odes to those banks, they would put it back into Greece for

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longer term debt. How significant is his warning? Unfortunately, it

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is pretty significant. Effectively, it scuppers the plan. It is back to

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the drawing board for the European politicians and their banks, to

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come up with a plan that would not cause a default. The problem with a

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default, the classic creditor situation, when these agencies, out

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with this term, it has lots of repercussions. And we know as those

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report -- and we know those repercussions. Greece will not be

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able to borrow money. Back to the drawing board. We will be talking

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about this for longer. When we do chat, I get upset with our phone

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bills. You and the rest of us. People who go on the Continent use

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the phones and come back to face bills of hundreds or thousands of

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pounds. We know that European officials have been working at

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bringing those prices down. In the last four years, Robin -- roaming

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charges have dropped by 60% but it is still three times more expensive

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to use this abroad than at home. This week, a big announcement on

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European officials, how to shrink that gap. We are expecting a double

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whammy hits against the mobile industry. They will continue

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regulating prices but they have a new trick. The price caps have been

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successful to a certain extent. we do not think we're going to be

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able to bring down the prices sufficiently through regulating the

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prices. Ultimately, in order to bring prices down significantly and

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in a sustainable way, we need to have more competition in the market.

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Just to say, they're looking at a proposal about when you go to

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France, subscribing to a local French company using your telephone

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number. The markets are all up around the globe off the back of

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those great manufacturing numbers, rebounding from the United States.

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We want to hear what do you think. Get in touch. The best way to do

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You can watch highlights from the You're watching GMT. Here are the

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headlines: Thrown out of court, the former Bosnian Serb leader Ratko

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Mladic is ejected from the War crimes Tribunal in the Hague after

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he refused to plead and continued to interject.

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The deadlock on the battlefield and Libya has prompted countries

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outside the NATO led coalition to look for a negotiated solution to

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the conflict. Moscow has been one of the more out spoken advocates of

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negotiations. The Russian President and the head of the NATO alliance,

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Anders Fogh Rasmussen, are discussing the Libyan conflict at a

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summit. Jacob Zuma, who has been trying to find a diplomatic

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solution and the country, has also been invited for a meeting with the

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Russian president. We can speak now to Dmitri Babich, who is in Moscow,

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a political analyst at the Russia Profile magazine. Russia is

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accusing NATO of going beyond the UN mandate. What would the Russian

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government like to see from NATO? think Russia does not want to

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create a precedent when other countries decide for a sovereign

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country its future fate. Russia has no sympathy for Colonel Gaddafi,

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president Medvedev has called him basically a criminal a number of

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times. But Russia also does not want to see other countries

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intervening directly in Libyan affairs. The recent acknowledgement

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by France that it provided weapons to the Libyan rebels was very badly

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received in Moscow. Russia will probably try to look for a

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negotiated solution, and that is what the Russian envoy in the

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region is trying to achieve. What evidence is there that negotiations

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with Libya are working? Well, it's so far, we have not seen anyone

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doing any serious efforts to get the negotiations on course. The

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rebels have rejected all negotiations. Mr Gaddafi has a

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reputation, but we're not dealing only with him. A large part of the

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population, especially around Tripoli, does not want to live

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under the opposition so hastily recognised by France and Britain.

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Probably these people should also be listen to. What is Russia

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fearing when it comes to the current NATO action? What do they

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think will happen? Is it possible that the rebels will gain a victory,

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and what will happen next? Russia has its own experience with civil

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war. We know they only end with negotiated solutions. If just one

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side wins, as it was in Russia in 1818 and 1920, then the civil war

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will continue in a covert form. That is what Russia basically fears

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for Libya. All civil wars should end with its associated solutions.

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Obviously, the position should also be a little more open about plans,

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and personnel. We do not know the names of all the members of the

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transitional council. Does Russia accept that without NATO action,

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there are civilians who were being wounded and victimised by a

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Gaddafi's forces and without NATO, this would have continued? Well, it

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is a problem from the past. We will not know -- we do not know what

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would have happened if NATO had not intervened. Russia is very

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concerned about the plight of civilians and that is why Russia

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voted, basically abstained during the vote on Resolution 1973. But

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Russia does not want the same situation to happen in Syria, and

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Russia is afraid that obviously NATO is going beyond what was

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agreed in that resolution, that Russia and China basically

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abstained during the vote. They did not vote. Dmitri Bavidge, thank you

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Within the next few months, the Brazilian government is going to be

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considering relaxing the forest code. Farmers and businesses want

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to be allowed to cultivate more of their land. But environmentalists

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say the code should be strengthened, not weakened. The lungs of the

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world, where millions of trees absorb carbon dioxide and save the

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planet from more dramatic changes to weather patterns. The forest is

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home to countless species. But years of deforestation have left

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them vulnerable, as farmers clear the land to provide pasture for

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their join and to grow cash crops. The indigenous tribes here say

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their traditional way of life is and a threat.

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TRANSLATION: Today, everybody is destroying the forest all round. I

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do not want this. I told many people that if we destroy the

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forest, there will be a great wind and a ground will overheat and burn

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up, that is my fear. This gives you a good idea what deforestation

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actually looks like. Over there, as far as the eye can see, virgin

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rainforest. But right here, next to the road, land that has been

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cleared illegally. If what has happened around here is anything to

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go by, within the next few years, those cattle will have gone, all of

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this will be used for growing soya. Some big multinational food

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producers work close to the Amazon. Cattle produced beef, soya and corn

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produce food for cattle. More than a third of the world's meat exports

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come from Brazil. People are producing more Cotton, because of

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the demand of countries which are growing and do not have enough food.

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Brazil has land, it has the technology, and of course, we're

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going to take advantage of that. is corn harvest time now, and with

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food prices at record levels, farmers want to expand, to grow

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more. The world needs more food, and they're more than happy to

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provide it. The forest code says that here, close to the Amazon,

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farmers can cultivate only 20% of the land they own. The other 80%

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has to be left untouched, to protect the forest. That's what

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they want change. There is talk of an amnesty for farmers who have

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illegally cleared their lands. They will be required to buy forested

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land somewhere else and leave it untouched. I feel cheated, because

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80% of my money is tied up in protecting the environment for the

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rest of the world, but I don't get anything out of it.

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Environmentalists want the laws to be strengthened to protect all this.

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But there is enormous pressure from business interests, who want to be

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able to develop the land. The government says it will veto any

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proposal which threatens the rain forest. But the next few months

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will be a crucial test - can Brazil, with its booming economy, really

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protect the environment? To Thailand now, where Yingluck

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Shinawatra is poised to become the first female Prime Minister of the

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country. The 43-year-old is the youngest of nine children. Her

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brother, Thaksin, is the former Prime Minister. Up until now she

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has been a managing director of several firms. She has never held a

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government post before. And she has never run for office before

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yesterday. It has led to some critics questioning her experience.

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Our correspondent has been covering the election from the thyme capital,

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Bangkok, and she sent this report. This is history in the making in

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Thailand, the country's first female Prime Minister. She is the

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youngest sister of are arguably the most divisive and influential

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politician in the country, Thaksin Shinawatra, the former Prime

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Minister, a man ousted by a military coup in 2006. For her

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supporters, this is the moment they have worked hard for. Thailand has

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seen a turbulent few years, and it wants to put the problems of the

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past behind it. TRANSLATION: She is like a nice

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person, a person who can accept both sides. It is like she can help

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calm down the political situation. But trying to do that could be

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tough, if Yingluck Shinawatra allows her brother to return to

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Thailand. He is living in self- imposed exile in Dubai, escaping a

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corruption conviction for which he could face two years in jail. There

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are concerns that Thaksin might use his sister's victory to stage a

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comeback. I am not in a hurry to go back. I

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want reconciliation to happen first. If there is reconciliation, and I

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am part of the solution, I will be there. Any return of Thaksin

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Shinawatra to Thailand would almost certainly be unacceptable for the

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Democratic Party and for the military. It could make an already

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tense political situation even worse. That would only make it

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harder for Thailand's new government to get on with the job

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of bringing this nation back together again and healing

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Thailand's when did democracy. -- wounded democracy. We can speak

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now to Voranai Vanijaka, of the Bangkok Post. Do you believe

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Yingluck Shinawatra is qualified to lead the country as Prime Minister?

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I believe she is. A lot of people have said that she does not have

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the political experience, it is true, she is a novice in politics.

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However, should be surrounded by a lot of veteran politicians, who can

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handle a lot of policies for her. Her opponents have said adamantly

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that she is not very bright in the first place. Whether she is or not,

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we cannot say. However, what she does have is perhaps what Thailand

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needs right now, the magic of a leader. She looks pretty, she

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symbolises a kindness and gentleness. It has helped the party

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to become very popular in the past two months. She is able to reach

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people, and the people seem to warm to her. That is one reason why the

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party has won by a landslide. This could be a good thing for Thailand.

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She could be a leader who can pull everyone together. How do you think

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she will be received internationally? It depends on whom

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she chooses as her Foreign Minister. So far, in interviews with the

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foreign press, she does find. Of course, there are accusations of it

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being scripted, which of course is true, but that will come with

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experience. Again, she's surrounded by people who know what they're

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doing. And of course, the most important foreign policy issue in

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Thailand right now is our conflict with Cambodia over the region. But

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we all know that her party has a special relationship with that

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country, so that conflict might work out in a way which the Thai

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people would accept. What about the fact that she's leading a coalition

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government - what problems might that cause? I don't think that will

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be a problem. The party got an absolute majority, but she's going

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to find smaller parties to make a coalition with. There is a

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political move. She's going to pull in some other parties to push the

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opposition into a corner. But how party by itself, it already has an

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absolute majority. Is the appointment of Yingluck Shinawatra

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seen as a fresh start for Thailand? There has been much talk about the

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so-called Tideland Inferno, can people put this behind them?

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Thailand. It is still fresh in people's memories. However, since

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we are here, the fact that her party won by a big majority, that

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does a lot to help the situation. It means that they have been given

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a mandate by the people. The people have spoken, and they have spoken

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International news and intelligent analysis going live to the heart of the day's top global story, presented by Naga Munchetty. Featuring exclusive reports from BBC World News correspondents based around the world, plus up-to-the-minute global business news.


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