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They are calling it Palestine 194 day. A vote on Palestine becoming | :00:23. | :00:29. | |
the next state in the UN. Could it advance the cause of peace | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
negotiation or would it cemented divisions between Israel and the | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
Palestinians, setting back the prospect of a peace settlement? | :00:39. | :00:49. | |
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Joining me, Dore Gold and Nabil Nabil Schaaf, former Deputy Prime | :01:13. | :01:21. | |
Minister and Dore Gold, former Israeli UN ambassador. Thank Maxis | :01:21. | :01:26. | |
for coming on HARDtalk. Nabil Schaaf, if I can begin with you. | :01:26. | :01:32. | |
What are you going to be doing at the United Nations? We are going to | :01:32. | :01:38. | |
be asking for membership. The state of Palestine was declared in 1988. | :01:38. | :01:44. | |
It has gathered momentum and today, 126 countries recognise it. What | :01:44. | :01:51. | |
are you asking? According to UN rules, for membership can only be | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
granted by the Security Council but that is where there is a | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
possibility of somebody using the veto. America. You will go to the | :02:00. | :02:05. | |
second best option, the General Assembly? We will do what we can, | :02:05. | :02:08. | |
knocking at the door of the Security Council that they can also | :02:08. | :02:15. | |
give us less than full membership, they can give us support and a | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
recommendation to the Security Council. We will approach both in | :02:18. | :02:25. | |
the right time. Just to nail this down. When you say recognition, the | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
Palestinian President, Mahmoud Abbas, said in July that he will be | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
seeking for membership and recognition of Palestine on the | :02:36. | :02:45. | |
1967 borders. Correct. So you're going to pre-empt negotiations? The | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
UN is going to divide Palestine with defined borders. There is a | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
separation between declaring a state and the final border with | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
neighbours. The border with our neighbours, even though there is a | :02:58. | :03:04. | |
lot of legitimate reasons be chosen 1967, it will still have to be | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
negotiated with Israel in accordance with Resolution 242. | :03:08. | :03:14. | |
it is entirely symbolic? You're asking for wrested -- recognition | :03:14. | :03:24. | |
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but it has no force. It has won. -- one. We are asking the world to | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
consider that we are restate whose land has occupied. There is a | :03:29. | :03:36. | |
consideration between land disputed or land occupied. As it is occupied, | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
any to equal partners Ken eventually agree on the final | :03:40. | :03:48. | |
demarcation. Dore Gold, you speak confidently about getting more than | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
a two-thirds majority there. His Israel going to sit on the | :03:52. | :03:59. | |
sidelines? Israel has said it does not recognise this as a legitimate | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
act. We have a set of agreements with the Palestinians going to 1993. | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
There is an important clause, a core commitment. Both sides | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
recognise the Oslo agreement is still in force. The cause says | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
neither side will change the status of the West Bank or the Gaza Strip | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
brighter the completion of negotiations. What have you been | :04:22. | :04:26. | |
doing with the West Bank and east Jerusalem? A good counter. But let | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
me explain. Settlements do not change the status. If we have a | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
disagreement over whether future borders side, we can move | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
settlements. We already pulled 9,000 people out of their homes. | :04:40. | :04:44. | |
Settlements are not an issue. are a huge issue. If you are | :04:44. | :04:52. | |
talking in a narrow legal way, in terms of politics, the real world, | :04:52. | :04:59. | |
tripling the number of settlers and the rest Bank -- in that the West | :04:59. | :05:07. | |
Bank, that has a tremendous effect. I have a treat - Mexico to share | :05:07. | :05:17. | |
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with you. When you Rabin negotiated, he did not agree to the freeze. The | :05:22. | :05:30. | |
PLO signed it. We have negotiated with Palestinians well we built in | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
their areas and they need associated with us. It is not a | :05:34. | :05:38. | |
huge issue. It is a huIt is a huor the rest of the world. I do not | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
want to get sidetracked. The reason I raised it is because it is all | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
very well to save the Palestinians are in abrogation of the Oslo | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
accords but let's just talk about the real world. Find me the claws | :05:53. | :06:01. | |
an an agreement. -- the clause in the Oslo agreement. | :06:02. | :06:10. | |
Because of some people insisting, negotiating about freezing | :06:10. | :06:15. | |
settlements, nonetheless, because of this issue, doubt is cast. Come | :06:15. | :06:22. | |
back to negotiations. Sit down with us. Talk to us. I want to explore | :06:22. | :06:27. | |
negotiations but can I ask, in practical terms, what do you think, | :06:27. | :06:35. | |
if this boat goes ahead, what effect will it have? -- vote. | :06:35. | :06:45. | |
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Symbolic or we'll affects? For -- real effects? More countries will | :06:46. | :06:53. | |
recognise this bilaterally. Your Foreign Minister was quoted as | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
saying, this does not make any difference on the ground. It is | :06:56. | :07:04. | |
symbolic. Is that what it is? determination is not symbolic. -- | :07:04. | :07:12. | |
self. It creates binding commitments between us and all of | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
the countries that recognise us. will change the lives of | :07:17. | :07:25. | |
Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip how? The major thing | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
that makes it impossible is the Israeli occupation and Israeli | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
settlement and is rarely wars and Israeli checkpoints. These are the | :07:33. | :07:40. | |
problems. As we have upgraded our representation. The world looking | :07:40. | :07:47. | |
at us as a state, we received a lot of support. A lot of support to | :07:47. | :07:53. | |
give us the ability to hire employees. It is happening whether | :07:53. | :07:58. | |
you're a member of the UN or not. It has increased significantly as | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
our status has risen. To be members of all the UN organisations, our | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
ability, it gives us rights to utilise international law to | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
support and protect our people and to make it harder for Israel to | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
consider rise just the people under occupation of a disputed territory. | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
Is that not a reasonable point? The Israeli occupation, which a number | :08:22. | :08:32. | |
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of countries to see as a -- illegal, the separation barrier, decreed | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
illegal. All that will become much more difficult for Israel if | :08:40. | :08:46. | |
Palestine is seen as a sovereign state. The leadership has put in | :08:46. | :08:51. | |
the European Union in a difficult position. They are divided as to | :08:51. | :08:57. | |
how to respond. I'm not asking about the European Union. This is a | :08:57. | :09:04. | |
much more complex situation than people think. The commitment not to | :09:04. | :09:11. | |
change the status of the territories was signed by the | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
European Union. Britain supports the Palestinians. It is working | :09:15. | :09:22. | |
against an agreement it signed. Palestinians are saying they want | :09:23. | :09:32. | |
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to see restart negotiations. Israel has put in a precondition. It is | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
totally untrue. This is not a precondition. Israel says, you come | :09:41. | :09:49. | |
to last. Recognise the rights of the Palestinian people. Two years | :09:49. | :09:55. | |
ago, the Prime Minister of Israel said, I recognise the rights of | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
Palestinian people and a Palestinian state. You should | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
recognise the rights of the Jewish people for a nation state for the | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
Jewish people and for some reason, the Palestinians cannot say that. | :10:09. | :10:19. | |
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Because that abrogate the right of return. -- abrogates. Please, let | :10:19. | :10:24. | |
me finish. The returning of Palestinian refugees to their | :10:24. | :10:30. | |
homeland. You are prejudging the negotiations just as much as he, | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
saying it is fine but the when recognize Palestine on the 1967 | :10:34. | :10:41. | |
borders is prejudging that part of the negotiations. You are asking me | :10:41. | :10:44. | |
as an Israeli to recognise the rights of the Palestinian people to | :10:44. | :10:52. | |
a state but you refuse to let me put the rights of the Jewish people | :10:52. | :11:00. | |
to a state. That is unfair. Do you agree that the Palestinians have a | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
problem that there are several million Jews living in a place that | :11:03. | :11:12. | |
they consider to be theirs? We have two problems. Settlements. We never | :11:12. | :11:19. | |
accepted settlements. It is a demographic change. What about his | :11:19. | :11:25. | |
role within the 1967 borders? -- Israel. The terms we had to accept | :11:25. | :11:32. | |
it to move on in terms of the Oslo agreement was no unilateral acts | :11:32. | :11:39. | |
that would change things on the ground. Changing the status of the | :11:39. | :11:45. | |
West Bank. The specific point about recognising the Jews have a right | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
to self-determination. It is not a question of the Jews have been that | :11:48. | :11:55. | |
right. It is that question of all Israelis having that right. 22 % of | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
Israel is made of Palestinians, Christians and Muslims to worry | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
Israeli citizens. They are not choose but they are part of Israeli | :12:03. | :12:12. | |
society. -- Jews. Are you suggesting their future would be | :12:12. | :12:18. | |
jeopardised? It is like a black man in the United States when somebody | :12:18. | :12:24. | |
insists you recognise the US as a Wasp country, for white Anglo-Saxon | :12:24. | :12:32. | |
Protestants. We recognised Israel in 1993 as a sovereign state. We | :12:32. | :12:42. | |
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still commit ourselves to recognise in it. -- recognising. We can never | :12:44. | :12:52. | |
ask Israel to recognise us as an Arab or Muslim state. Let me be | :12:52. | :12:56. | |
specific. What to do you think is going to happen on the day after | :12:56. | :13:04. | |
this vote? How will things change? We are not raising the expectations | :13:04. | :13:10. | |
of our people. Israel will not to leave a country the day after. | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
are you planning mass demonstrations? Will there be an | :13:16. | :13:22. | |
Arab Spring? Not on that day. That action is an international non- | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
violent action and will be supported with glee and happiness. | :13:26. | :13:32. | |
It will not be supported with glee and happiness by one of your major | :13:32. | :13:41. | |
funders. America has made it clear. It is not part of the Palestinian | :13:41. | :13:48. | |
people. You have a responsibility. You have been written to by senior | :13:48. | :13:55. | |
members of Congress warning, both houses of which have voted heavily | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
against you, they will cut funding. I would be very happy if they did | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
the same to Israel. We will cut off funding if you continue settlements. | :14:05. | :14:08. | |
The Americans cannot be that selective and I'm not going to | :14:08. | :14:12. | |
listen to them if they do. See you think it is an empty threat? It is | :14:12. | :14:19. | |
not the issue. It is the issue. Abandoning them negotiations? | :14:19. | :14:25. | |
submit to date of the American pressure on this issue, but I will | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
have to give up everything else. Everything else I want to do and it | :14:29. | :14:37. | |
is part of my right. We do not want to battle with them. What are you | :14:37. | :14:47. | |
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As in material breach of the agreement, if they go against the | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
core commitment of their agreement it is completely open question as | :14:57. | :15:02. | |
to how we respond. That is what I am asking you - how will you | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
respond? That is a stress in addition to this. How are you going | :15:07. | :15:13. | |
to respond? We will have to see. We have to make plans. Your Foreign | :15:13. | :15:18. | |
Minister has said... Is that going to happen? I don't know. We have to | :15:18. | :15:22. | |
see what the actual actions... is not that long that you have to | :15:23. | :15:28. | |
wait. Do you think that is a sensible move? I think that if the | :15:28. | :15:32. | |
agreement is an violated so fundamentally and the international | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
agreement that was signed by the European Union, the Russians, the | :15:35. | :15:43. | |
Norwegians, the Egyptians... It I am asking what you will do. I think | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
we should study the response. I would give you a specific... Do you | :15:47. | :15:50. | |
think, specifically, that you should think about annexing part of | :15:50. | :15:55. | |
the West Bank? I am not sure. I am telling you what we think. We have | :15:55. | :16:01. | |
a very serious problem that is emerging. Why are the Palestinians | :16:01. | :16:10. | |
doing this? Mahmoud Abbas explained the motivation. He says he wants to | :16:10. | :16:15. | |
waged, let's call it a legal war, a legal struggle against the Israeli | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
international... This move on the part of Mahmoud Abbas is not to | :16:18. | :16:22. | |
level the playing field, make it easier for the Palestinians to | :16:22. | :16:27. | |
negotiate with Israel, to the contrary. It is to open a whole new | :16:27. | :16:34. | |
door of going to the National Criminal Court, the ICC... While | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
you're afraid of international law? We are not afraid of international | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
law. You can load up the entire international legal system with | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
complaints that have been thrown out because they are baseless as I | :16:46. | :16:51. | |
saw that in Gaza personally. This is not the way to make peace. We | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
need to sit down - sit down with us. You have sat down with every Prime | :16:56. | :17:04. | |
Minister. Sit down with us. Sit down with us! Don't go to the UN! | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
You are tying up a whole international... It is useless... | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
It can only create complications. How much support is there within | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
the Palestinian leadership for this? I haven't heard a single | :17:16. | :17:24. | |
comment in favour of this from your Prime Minister. Come on now... Of | :17:24. | :17:32. | |
course he is in favour of this... He made a statement that he | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
retracted several times... He said what we need in the final analysis | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
is not only the retribution of 190 countries, we need the recognition | :17:41. | :17:47. | |
of one country that occupies our claim -- recognition. What he is | :17:47. | :17:50. | |
about is about building a Palestinian state on the ground. | :17:50. | :17:57. | |
Looks, he is not in charge of our political... He is a respected | :17:57. | :18:05. | |
Prime Minister whose role is to run the security and Economic Affairs | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
Committee is not a political decision maker. But he thinks this | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
is a bad idea. I don't think Mahmoud Abbas wanted to do this. | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
didn't. People have to negotiate and talk, even within people's own | :18:17. | :18:20. | |
families have to talk about future plans. I think he is fully | :18:20. | :18:27. | |
convinced... Yd than he has changed his mind? Because he saw the | :18:27. | :18:32. | |
reasons. He saw the advantages. He saw the limited costs that it would | :18:32. | :18:38. | |
take. Let me tell you - Israel has accepted the fact that there is an | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
independent Palestinian state in all of our agreements. When we | :18:42. | :18:46. | |
signed with Israel they were 88 countries that would have all | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
embassies for arse. Let's talk about the P and Orrell. There are | :18:49. | :18:57. | |
lots of people - your friends - who say that making his move to the | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
United Nations were made to staff up the chances of the Palestinian | :19:01. | :19:11. | |
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refugees who the key and AU are supposed to represent. --PLO. Up be | :19:17. | :19:27. | |
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his appeal over that... That state is the ownership of all the | :19:27. | :19:34. | |
Palestinians. Dore Gold, can I ask more broadly - do you not feel that | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
you are a... When you think this is the right move or not, you are on | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
the wrong side of the debate? point is, the vast majority of the | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
world believes it is time for a viable Palestinian state, Israel is | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
standing in the way. The Prime Minister of Israel said he is ready | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
for a Palestinian state. Define Palestinian state - it is bomber | :19:53. | :20:00. | |
that controlled borders, without control of the electromagnetic... | :20:00. | :20:07. | |
It is the Israeli view which I am here for, bear with me. This | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
affects how Israelis look at the future of the West Bank. We | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
withdrew. It was unilateral, but it was, ordinated with Mahmoud Abbas. | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
He said there would be no rocket fire while we withdrew. Would we | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
expect that if you withdraw from territory that the Palestinians say | :20:24. | :20:29. | |
it is part of the estate that rocket fire should drop? Increased | :20:29. | :20:35. | |
from 2005 up to almost 900. Without getting into that - and I know it | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
is important as far as Israel is concerned, but how do you define a | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
Palestinian state? If we withdrew from the Gaza Strip and we got a | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
500 % increase in rocket fire on Israeli cities - and every one has | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
seen this, BBC, CNN, you have seen it. How can we be certain that this | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
will not happen in the West Bank? That is why we need a negotiation | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
with the Palestinians directly to talk about security issues. If they | :20:59. | :21:05. | |
say - to a bad, we are deciding with the UN that the lines will be | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
the 67 lines at all the leaders have said are indefensible - what | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
is there left to talk about? Can I ask both of you - we are hearing | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
from both of you, passionately and in some detail, many of the | :21:18. | :21:25. | |
arguments that we have heard over the past decades, to be frank. | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
There is this thing called the Arab Spring. Are you not afraid, Nabil | :21:30. | :21:35. | |
Sha'ath, that one of the currents we have seen from the Arab Spring | :21:35. | :21:39. | |
is that the tired old leaderships had ended up being swept away by | :21:39. | :21:44. | |
public disaffection. Are you not afraid that the Palestinians might | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
do that to you? It would be a pleasure, believe me. The question | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
of democracy is a question that is important to the Palestinians more | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
than anybody else. The Arab Spring is a validation - a vindication | :21:58. | :22:06. | |
that the Palestinians' quest for self-determination and democracy... | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
The peace process so far has not really ended occupation. There have | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
been 20 years after we signed Oslo. We are still under occupation. | :22:15. | :22:20. | |
Every inch of Palestine. Are you going back to negotiations? We are | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
going back to negotiations. There are limited chances it could | :22:24. | :22:29. | |
succeed. While we discuss peace, land is being taken from us. We | :22:29. | :22:37. | |
cannot really, any more, but might this refers to a time when there | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
was hope. When we felt we might, in fact, finish everything. Now after | :22:41. | :22:47. | |
20 years we are still fully occupied. Dore Gold - is there not | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
a chance, I know there is a lot of uncertainty in Israel about what is | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
happening regionally, that just by hungering down you could actually | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
make up the worst of all worlds. It is up to you now to make the | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
weather rather than simply folding your arms. The ultimate | :23:07. | :23:10. | |
responsibility for any serious democratic government in the West - | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
anywhere in the world, is to protect the lives of its civilians. | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
What is happening with the Arab Spring for arse is a positive. I | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
would like to see the Arab world democratic so that Arab leaders -- | :23:23. | :23:33. | |
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for us. Tomic... Those new Arab leaders sound all the more | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
concerned with what is happening in Israel. I think they are focused | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
inwardly. We're getting instability. Do we know who will lead Syria? Do | :23:44. | :23:49. | |
we know who will lead Saudi Arabia in two years? Do we know what will | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
happen to Iraq after the Americans and British have completed their | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
withdrawal? Will become a new Arab democracy with accountable | :23:57. | :24:05. | |
government or will it become simply a satellite of Iran. Certain | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
security elements are important to keep the Jewish people alive. We | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
need to sit with the Palestinians. We will put the security issue | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
first. It is difficult, but... will have to leave it there. | :24:19. | :24:25. | |
Painted the coming on to HARDtalk Dore Gold and Nabil Sha'ath. -- | :24:25. | :24:35. | |
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thank you. Good morning - if you have been | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
watching the weather forecast you will know we are heading for a | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
spell of stormy weather across the northern half of the UK. We have an | :24:52. | :24:54. | |
amber alert for the strength of the wind affecting southern Scotland | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
and northern England. Some detail - you can see this cloud moving in | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
from the Atlantic all associated with an area of low pressure that | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
is pushing in across from the west. We will see some extensive rain | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
through Northern Ireland and into northern Scotland. First thing in | :25:10. | :25:20. | |
the morning it will be a grey and windy start. Not the strongest of | :25:20. | :25:24. | |
the winds by 8am but a fairly miserable journey to work or school | :25:24. | :25:29. | |
across Scotland and north-west England. To the east of the | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
Pennines it all stay rather cloudy but not a bad start. Some patchy | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
bits and pieces through Lincolnshire, East Anglia and | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
London. Breezy, but temperatures of around 17 degrees by 8am. Some | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
cloud generally through the south coast and down into the south-west. | :25:44. | :25:47. | |
Strong wind is a feature particularly on the exposed coast | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
of Wales and further inland there will be some showers to come. We | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
come over to Northern Ireland and we will see a spell of wet weather | :25:55. | :25:59. | |
continuing. That will be a bit of a nuisance. There is that area of low | :25:59. | :26:06. | |
pressure. That is where the strongest of winds will develop. In | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
Northern Ireland, southern Scotland and northern England. For the rest | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
of England and Wales not too bad with some sunny spells coming | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
through. Temperatures at 21-22. 16 degrees in the cloudy wet weather. | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
The strongest of the wind from lunchtime onwards through the | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
afternoon across Northern Ireland, southern Scotland and northern | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
England. There will be some localised gusts of wind here | :26:27. | :26:33. | |
causing some damage. Strong Glyn is likely to cause trouble disruptions, | :26:33. | :26:43. | |
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stay tuned to the BBC Radio station. We keep the wind across Scotland | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
throughout Tuesday. Elsewhere it is a case a bright and breezy with | :26:49. | :26:59. | |
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plenty of showers. A similar feel - 15-20 degrees, not as warm in the | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
south corner. Good news to cling on to - by Wednesday we'll lose the | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
rain in the north. High pressure takes over and weather conditions | :27:07. | :27:10. |