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children through its life-savers project how to make sure that they | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
don't get into debt, this is evidence that the church will be | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
supportive of what he has suggested. Urgent question. Will the Minister | :00:00. | :00:15. | |
make a statement on events planned by the group return of King 's? | :00:16. | :00:24. | |
There is a self-styled US pick-up artist, reporting had suggested that | :00:25. | :00:34. | |
they were scheduled to hold nine events across the UK on Saturday. An | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
announcement on the group's website has been publicised in the press, | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
which states that no Return of Kings events will be held on Saturday. The | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
government condemns in the strongest terms anyone who condones rape and | :00:50. | :00:55. | |
sexual violence or suggest that responsible teat. In these crimes | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
rests with the victims. Responsibility always unequivocally | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
rests with the perpetrator of these serious crimes. Any form of violence | :01:05. | :01:10. | |
against women or girls is absolutely unacceptable. The impact of domestic | :01:11. | :01:16. | |
and sexual violence on victims, visit click, psychologically and | :01:17. | :01:21. | |
emotionally, cannot be overstated. The government is working closely | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
with victims and survivors, support services, the police and come and | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
justice to end these crimes. If women or offences have been | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
committed, including incitement of violence against women, the | :01:36. | :01:37. | |
Government would expect local police forces to deal with any offenders | :01:38. | :01:41. | |
appropriately. The Government does not routinely comment on individual | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
cases, but the Home Secretary has powers to exclude an individual who | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
is not a British citizen if she considers their presence in the UK | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
is not conducive to the public good. This Home Secretary has excluded | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
more foreign nationals on the grounds of unacceptable behaviour | :02:01. | :02:03. | |
than any before her. This can and has excluded exclusions over | :02:04. | :02:17. | |
violence against women. -- included. We are pleased that the Return of | :02:18. | :02:20. | |
Kings events appear to have been cancelled, and I look forward to a | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
full discussion, which is due to take place this afternoon. I am sure | :02:27. | :02:29. | |
we will discuss these issues at length. I welcome her response, | :02:30. | :02:36. | |
there has been widespread ridicule but also revulsion at the antics of | :02:37. | :02:42. | |
the group Return of Kings from the respected Police and Crime | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
Commissioner for Northumberland, parliamentary colleagues around the | :02:47. | :02:49. | |
house, the member for Rotherham has written to the Minister, widespread | :02:50. | :02:59. | |
coverage in the media, 63,000 signatures are on the online | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
petition calling for the events to be banned, so I am glad they are not | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
going ahead. That is in no measure due to the government, but we need | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
assurances for the future, as we know that the man has said he could | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
not stop men attending private meetings. Can I ask the Minister, | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
she mentions the Home Secretary can exclude individuals from the UK, | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
what information does the Government hold about the man's plans to travel | :03:29. | :03:33. | |
here in the future? Would he attract a band? Have you considered | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
classifying Return of Kings as a prescribed group? Events were | :03:39. | :03:46. | |
advertised to his followers, which led to plans for | :03:47. | :03:48. | |
counterdemonstrations in a number of UK cities, creating a threat to | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
public order and women's safety. The Minister has said the police have | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
powers to act if they believe that crimes have been committed, does she | :04:00. | :04:01. | |
believe the threshold for incitement to rape or hate crimes has been met? | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
What discussions and guidance have been issued to the police on | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
handling these activities? In relation to the online advertising | :04:12. | :04:14. | |
of the events, which required participants to give the postcode | :04:15. | :04:22. | |
pet shop to be admitted, what discussion has the Government had to | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
take down these offensive posts? These events took place against a | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
backdrop of a 41% increase of rape in the past year, and the loss of | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
much specialist revision. 29% of the cuts to local authorities announced | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
in the 2015 Spending Review could fall on services to support those | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
suffering violence against women, according to the women's budget | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
group, 32 refuges have closed between 2010 and 2014, and many rape | :04:55. | :04:57. | |
crisis centres have told me that they have no guarantee about their | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
funding after next month. Would the Minister assure the house that that | :05:03. | :05:07. | |
funding would be continued from April's of the Minister has | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
mentioned, there will be a debate in Westminster Hall on the role of men | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
in tackling violence against women, that is welcome, I expect it will | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
cuddle -- cover perpetrator programmes and compulsory sex and | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
Russian ship programmes, which we have pressed for the many years. Was | :05:25. | :05:29. | |
she commit to introducing compulsory sex and Russian ship education as | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
part of the curriculum in every school? When will the government | :05:33. | :05:39. | |
ratify and implement the Convention signed in 2012? What is the | :05:40. | :05:49. | |
explanation for the delay? Can I start by joining the honourable lady | :05:50. | :05:52. | |
in agreeing that the comments from this individual and the proposals by | :05:53. | :05:57. | |
this group are absolutely propulsive, and everybody in this | :05:58. | :06:02. | |
house would join her and me in condemning what they have said. This | :06:03. | :06:09. | |
has no place in reddish society. The Government is taking all steps we | :06:10. | :06:12. | |
can to deal with these matters, I would be happy to write to her on | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
the specifics of what the government can do, because I cannot comment on | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
individual cases, and much of what she has asked about its operational | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
matters for local police, and I would be happy to write about what | :06:25. | :06:30. | |
local police can do and what they are able to do in terms of stopping | :06:31. | :06:36. | |
these activities. But it would not be appropriate for me to go into | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
detail here. She has talked about ridicule. I share with her a view | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
that we should ridicule, we should show contempt and show that these | :06:46. | :06:53. | |
are the most ridiculous views. She mentioned Vera Baird, I agree, we | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
should make a point of ridiculing and showing that if we can see that | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
these are ludicrous comments, people will see that they do not want to be | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
part of this. She asked about Internet providers. We do talk with | :07:08. | :07:13. | |
Internet providers on the topic of many subjects, indecent images of | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
children, the topics of children having access to pornographic | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
material, and inappropriate material. I would be taking this | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
point up with the Internet providers when I next see them next month. She | :07:27. | :07:35. | |
asked about the Istanbul convention. We have an issue on Article 44, and | :07:36. | :07:41. | |
extraterritoriality matter, we are discussing it with the devolved | :07:42. | :07:45. | |
administrations. I am not going to ratify the treaty -- Convention | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
until I am certain we comply with all measures in the convention. We | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
comply with everything else, but I want to make sure we deal with that | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
point before we do the ratification. She talked about the debate this | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
afternoon, I want to pay tribute to the White ribbon campaign, which has | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
been instrumental in making clear that men do not want to see violence | :08:11. | :08:16. | |
against women and girls. If I could take her up on a point about the 41% | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
increase in rates, that is in reported rape. We welcome that. It | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
shows that victims have the confidence to come forward and our | :08:26. | :08:30. | |
reporting. If they report those crimes, we can then get convictions, | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
which are at the highest level they have ever been. The crime survey | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
shows that the level of this crime is not going up. I welcome that, we | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
want to see more reporting, I hope she would join me in welcoming that | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
increase in reporting. I welcome the government's commitment to raising | :08:53. | :09:00. | |
awareness of sexual and relationship abuse through its campaign. Would | :09:01. | :09:04. | |
she agreed that more emphasis needs to be put on controlling behaviour | :09:05. | :09:10. | |
and emotional abuse, which often goes unreported? I thank her for | :09:11. | :09:19. | |
that question. This campaign has been extremely successful, I am | :09:20. | :09:22. | |
pleased the Government and announced that we are continuing with that. It | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
is so important that young people understand what is appropriate, | :09:29. | :09:35. | |
understand what a normal loving relationship is, as opposed to an | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
abusive one. She will also note that in December a new offence of | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
domestic abuse, coercive control, commenced. This new offence, which | :09:45. | :09:51. | |
has been called for for many years, is difficult, that is why we made | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
sure we got it right, but we now have the ability to prosecute and | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
conflict poser offenders who never commit physical violence against | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
their victims, but do abuse their victims for far too long. | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
I'd like to thank the Minister for her comments and to share her | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
condemnation of rape and violence in any form and particularly any | :10:17. | :10:22. | |
attempt to blame the victims. I wholeheartedly agree that the | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
responsibility must always remain with the perpetrator. We in the | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
Scottish National party are also pleased that these events have been | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
cancelled. The anti-women agenda behind them is reported. In | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
Scotland, our petition against these events have attracted around 40,000 | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
signatures and members may also be aware that members of the SNP | :10:44. | :10:49. | |
sponsored an early day motion condemning these sexist and | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
hate-mongering meetings and the misogyny behind them. In Scotland, | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
Police Scotland have been working closely with anti-violence against | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
women organisations and put out a strongly worded statement about the | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
policing of these events were they to take place. It is obviously | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
absolutely paramount, I'm sure the Minister agrees, that women are able | :11:13. | :11:15. | |
to go about their daily life without being subjected to this kind of | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
intimidation. The Scottish Government and Police Scotland have | :11:21. | :11:23. | |
worked hard on the investigation of sex crimes in Scotland. The Minister | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
will be aware that in 2008, the Scottish Crown Office setup a | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
special crime unit, of which I was proud to be one of the founding | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
prosecutors, and our conviction rates for rape and violence have | :11:39. | :11:43. | |
increased but we are still working very hard because these are | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
difficult crimes to persecute. I would like to associate myself with | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
the questions raised by the honourable member. That and thank | :11:53. | :11:55. | |
her for raising these important questions. We do in the SNP would | :11:56. | :12:01. | |
like to see the Istanbul convention ratified as soon as possible and I'm | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
sure the Minister can reassure me that she continues to look at that. | :12:07. | :12:17. | |
She also reassure me, if the Home Secretary becomes aware of plans for | :12:18. | :12:22. | |
this gentleman, and I use the word loosely, to enter this country, will | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
she make us aware of that and liaise with other parties on this? I thank | :12:30. | :12:40. | |
the honourable lady that -- for her comments and assure her that we will | :12:41. | :12:48. | |
take all steps that we possibly can and what we will do. I will copy you | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
into my letter for the number. Fit. We will try to ratify this as soon | :12:55. | :13:08. | |
as possible. I want to pay tribute to all resources across the United | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
Kingdom these kind of criminals to wreck -- do not recognise borders | :13:13. | :13:17. | |
and police forces need to work together to make sure that we tackle | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
these crimes. These crimes are not acceptable in the United Kingdom and | :13:24. | :13:26. | |
I mean the whole of the United Kingdom. Mr Speaker, I support | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
strongly what the opposition spokesman had to say from the front | :13:32. | :13:37. | |
bench. Our cherished liberty of free speech is something which we defend | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
to our -- to its utmost, but with this freedom must come | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
responsibility. Can I say to the Minister, I am pretty certain that | :13:50. | :13:52. | |
on this side of the House, everybody would welcome a proactive engagement | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
from the Home Secretary and head apartment to not only exclude this | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
man, who is frankly an embarrassment to all men, but also to prescribe | :14:02. | :14:11. | |
his organisation as well. I want to reassure my honourable friend that | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
he will struggle to find a more proactive Home Secretary. This Home | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
Secretary has excluded more people and has done more to stand up | :14:19. | :14:25. | |
against violence towards women and girls than any Home Secretary in | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
history and I am proud to serve in her department. This planned meeting | :14:29. | :14:35. | |
may well just have been a public that is done by an attention seeker | :14:36. | :14:45. | |
so insecure in himself that he goes to this length to increase the size | :14:46. | :14:52. | |
of his following. I am among the many outraged and afraid at the idea | :14:53. | :15:06. | |
of these meetings, so can she tell everyone that anyone who is planning | :15:07. | :15:11. | |
on meeting to condone rape will be treated in the same way as anyone | :15:12. | :15:20. | |
who was meeting to plan murder. I can absolutely sure how that would | :15:21. | :15:24. | |
be the case because this is a criminal offence and I will also | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
agree with her statements that perhaps he needs boosting in certain | :15:30. | :15:38. | |
ways. I will say no more. Can we be robust on who is allowed into the | :15:39. | :15:46. | |
country and he isn't. Rather than relying on individual police forces, | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
if Her Majesty's Government is aware that an individual is looking to | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
incite violence in this country, shouldn't the Government make sure | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
these people are excluded from our country so that we don't have to put | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
extra peak -- extra pressure on our police force who have too much to do | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
already? My honourable friend well understand I cannot comment on | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
individual cases but I agree with him that it is better to exclude | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
them to deal with when they are here and this Home Secretary has excluded | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
more foreign national offenders and foreign nationals than any other. I | :16:23. | :16:31. | |
can see no possible benefit to this individual being allowed into the UK | :16:32. | :16:36. | |
now all in the future, so can I add my voice to those members who say | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
that there is an understanding -- that whilst understanding that | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
individual cases cannot be discussed, that hopefully she will | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
be able to discover that theme by saying this person is excluded for | :16:51. | :17:01. | |
life from the UK. I am sure the honourable gentleman's comments well | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
have been heard and can I also point out that the police minister has | :17:05. | :17:08. | |
heard the comments as he is sitting next to me. Whilst sharing the | :17:09. | :17:15. | |
revulsion of this group's views and the need to exclude them from the | :17:16. | :17:21. | |
UK, there is a substantial amount of evidence that indicates that they | :17:22. | :17:29. | |
have no intention to meet up, and instead are doing this only to seek | :17:30. | :17:35. | |
free publicity. Has the Minister seen any evidence to indicate that | :17:36. | :17:42. | |
there was a plan to hold any of these events in the UK? I have as | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
much information as the gentleman -- the honourable gentleman with | :17:50. | :17:59. | |
regards to whether or not they were actually to be held and I repeat | :18:00. | :18:01. | |
again that we should treat this group with ridicule. IT welcome the | :18:02. | :18:10. | |
public revulsion which has -- eyed to welcome the public revulsion | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
which has led to the cancellation of these events. What will be Minister | :18:17. | :18:28. | |
do about the buyer lengths and criminality online? I can assure the | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
honourable member that it does not matter where it happens if something | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
is a criminal offence. It is a criminal offence online as well. Can | :18:39. | :18:45. | |
I ask the minister if she would have a view of the weighting of the | :18:46. | :18:51. | |
community impact of when the police decide to intervene. It can be quite | :18:52. | :18:58. | |
a black and white decision that the police take, rather than looking at | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
the wider impact on the community involved. My honourable friend makes | :19:02. | :19:10. | |
a very good point and I can assure him we will look at those points. | :19:11. | :19:22. | |
This isn't the first time and it won't be the last that a campaign of | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
violence and aggression has been orchestrated by the Internet. | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
Although we hear words by the Government every time there is an | :19:31. | :19:33. | |
incident, nothing ever seems to happen. Can I press the Minister, | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
what action will be Government take over the use with which these vile | :19:38. | :19:42. | |
messages can be distributed over the Internet? I can assure the | :19:43. | :19:48. | |
honourable lady that this is a criminal offence, to make these | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
comments, and we do not take it lightly. We work hard and that | :19:53. | :19:56. | |
length with the Internet service providers, who have a responsibility | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
to make sure that these messages are not distributed. It has to be said | :20:01. | :20:10. | |
that this particular individual and his arrogance is only met by his | :20:11. | :20:23. | |
ignorance, so it must be key that we ensure there are positive role | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
models out there for young men. The key mistake this man made was to | :20:27. | :20:34. | |
think any man would want to attend a meeting that was so vile. I agree | :20:35. | :20:43. | |
with my friend. On the very day that we are talking about the positive | :20:44. | :20:52. | |
role men can play in preventing violence, does the Minister agree | :20:53. | :20:59. | |
with me that this is just distracting from the positive role | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
men can play in ending misogyny. The honourable gentleman makes a very | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
good point. I am looking forward to debating that this afternoon. Men | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
have a very important role to play and the vast, vast majority do so. | :21:14. | :21:20. | |
Do you agree that this is symptomatic of a much bigger trend | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
towards misogyny that we are seeing in all sorts of media, including | :21:25. | :21:30. | |
twitter, that we are seeing internationally, and I wonder what | :21:31. | :21:37. | |
is being done to approach this with a zero tolerance approach? The | :21:38. | :21:47. | |
honourable gentleman leads me into the possibility of an answer that | :21:48. | :21:49. | |
could last for many days as we look into what can be done | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
internationally to promote women and women's rights, for example the | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
action being taken to tackle the now genital mutilation, the action on | :21:59. | :22:06. | |
forced marriage, but all people have the right to live equally and these | :22:07. | :22:12. | |
views are not acceptable. It seems there is some ridiculous irony that | :22:13. | :22:19. | |
these events have been cancelled for the safety of his supporters given | :22:20. | :22:25. | |
the nature of the events. I join everybody in condemnation of this | :22:26. | :22:28. | |
sick individual. I would like to pay tribute to the group 's across the | :22:29. | :22:32. | |
country, particularly in Glasgow, who have helped to force the | :22:33. | :22:38. | |
cancellation of these events, and also pay to beat to the police who | :22:39. | :22:45. | |
have been working with these campaigners to ensure their safety | :22:46. | :22:53. | |
at the event. I support the unequivocal statement that went out | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
that said sex without consent is rape. I agree with the lady and pay | :22:57. | :23:03. | |
tribute to Police Scotland and police forces across the country who | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
work to deal with these crimes and ensure that method is heard. I agree | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
with the Minister that most men will not support these file, anti-women, | :23:13. | :23:23. | |
misogynistic, pro-rape views and I am sure that members on both sides | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
of the House will unequivocally support the Home Secretary to make | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
sure that Roosh V never makes -- that's that British soil. What more | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
is the British Government doing to make sure that the small number of | :23:39. | :23:42. | |
individuals who support these are borrowed views learned the error of | :23:43. | :23:48. | |
their ways and that these are borrowed views are not acceptable in | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
decent society? -- these dreadful views. Education and making sure | :23:53. | :24:00. | |
that men who have these views understand that they are wrong is | :24:01. | :24:07. | |
very important. This is the police campaign and it is part of the work | :24:08. | :24:12. | |
we are doing on ending gang and youth violence and exploitation, | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
because young men who are in a circle where it is seen as being | :24:17. | :24:20. | |
acceptable to exploit young women and to treat them as no more than | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
sex objects have to be educated that this is simply not right. At this | :24:26. | :24:34. | |
event in Glasgow has been cancelled shows that people do make Glasgow. | :24:35. | :24:38. | |
Will the Minister agree with me that any event planned to coach men how | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
to coerce women into having sex is not a free-speech issue, but the | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
event issue of public safety and order. Will she also condemn me in | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
condemning the sick minded halfwits who were intending to attend these | :24:55. | :25:01. | |
events and welcome that they will now be sitting in their underpants | :25:02. | :25:03. | |
eating cold ravioli this weekend. He conjures quite an image! Such | :25:04. | :25:17. | |
grotesque misogynist and homophobic views are not masculine, they are a | :25:18. | :25:20. | |
perversion of masculinity and cowardly. We'll be Minister welcomed | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
the initiative is by the National Union of Students and student unions | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
to train bar staff to spot signs of sexual harassment? We need to stamp | :25:32. | :25:37. | |
that out in all society. I am interested in what he says, I would | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
be interested in learning more, this is the kind of initiative we need to | :25:43. | :25:47. | |
see to make sure it is clear that nobleman can ever be guilty of | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
inciting her own rape -- no woman. It is committed by the perpetrators, | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
they are the only people responsible. The Minister will be | :25:57. | :26:04. | |
aware that I wrote to the Home Secretary in response to the outrage | :26:05. | :26:10. | |
of my constituents who contacted me. The Minister may be aware the | :26:11. | :26:12. | |
Government of Australia have publicly stated that they will | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
continue to monitor any application from Roosh V or anybody associated | :26:17. | :26:22. | |
with the Return of Kings group. Can I get an assurance that the UK | :26:23. | :26:26. | |
Government will do likewise for any individual associated with this | :26:27. | :26:30. | |
group who are promoting a diet of hate? I can assure him that the Home | :26:31. | :26:37. | |
Secretary takes a very close eye on all matters like this and that the | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
Government takes every step it can. Business questions. Will be leader | :26:44. | :26:56. | |
give us the forthcoming business and all that jazz? Not much | :26:57. | :26:58. |