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Hello, good morning and welcome to the live coverage from the House of

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Commons. In one hour, MPs will have an urgent question tabled by

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Labour's Alex Cannon on why the government has not applied for a

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potential 125 minimum pounds pay-out from EU campaign to help the winter

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flows. An application must be made within 12 weeks from the start of

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the event, said the deadline for applications is this Saturday. After

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that, the Leader of the House will outline the forthcoming business in

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the chamber and take questions. The main business will see MPs holding a

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general debate on European affairs. You can expect much debate on the

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deal David Cameron reached with European union leaders in changes to

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the UK's membership of the EU, paving way for a referendum on the

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UK's membership, said the June. Try me for a round-up of the day and

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both houses at 11pm, but first we have questions to the Attorney

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General -- join me. Order, order. Questions to the

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Attorney General. Mr Speaker, in September last the Crown Prosecution

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Service publish guidance for advocates aren't better

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communication with all witnesses, advocates require training the cases

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involving vulnerable witnesses and special measures for those witnesses

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are used at court. Including pre-recorded evidence, intermediate

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trees, screens or the use of a video link. Would my right honourable

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friend agree with me as a former solicitor, that bundle witnesses

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want to be kept better informed as the process of their case, to hear

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update in a timely fashion, to give evidence as quickly as possible

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without losing their right to be heard, and to be treated in the

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least intimidating way we can do within the court process? I'm

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grateful to my honourable friend and I do agree with him. It is important

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we make sure witnesses who are in gauge incredible trials, which will

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be difficult experiences for them at the best of times, understand what

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is happening. He will be encouraged by the trials which have been run in

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three different Crown Court for pre-recorded cross examination, and

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what that will mean that for vulnerable and young witnesses, they

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will be able to get their part in the trial out of the way and any

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further delays in that trial will not affect them stop that is a huge

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step forward. I remind the Attorney General of the Conservative Party

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manifesto, which promised a Victim's Law. We are sometime from the

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election, could he enlighten the House when it will become

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forthcoming? He will know that manifestos for parliaments, not just

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for the first years, so we have a little time left. He will be

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encourage women to bring forward proposals to see ways in which we

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can help victims -- when we do bring forward. Also, have a less difficult

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experience in a criminal system. He knows full well we will never be

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able to get to a place where giving evidence and being involved in

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criminal trials is easy for victims and witnesses, but we can make it

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less hard and we will bring forward proposals to do so. I welcome what

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the Attorney General has said about the new victims code. What

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discussions as he had with the CPS in regard to the implementation of

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this? The Solicitor General and I have regular discussions with how we

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make sure what prosecutors do assists victims and witnesses. He

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will understand it is a prosecutor's responsibility to prosecute on

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behalf of the state, not solely on behalf of the victim, but it is

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important that victims are spoken directly and in a sensitive way by

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those involved in the prosecution. Can I find the government for

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deciding to reverse a decision to close Stockport courthouse, which

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has excellent facilities for victims and witnesses? Given that Her

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Majesty's Inspectorate has said services to victims and witnesses

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require improvement, can he set out precisely what the government is

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going to do to provide just that? The honourable gentleman one know

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the court is not part of my responsibilities, but I congratulate

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him on his ribs and patience. Can I say that in relation to victims,

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there are many things that need to be done, some will come for the

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Ministry of Justice and encouraging prosecutors to do their job of

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interacting with victims and witnesses and a more effective way.

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We are making progress on that, better communication is important.

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Better training for prosecutors in dealing with cases, particularly

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where vulnerable witnesses or children are involved is important,

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and we are doing that. Some of the measures were taken, which I

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referred to earlier, around ways in which witnesses give evidence, can

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help make sure the experiences are not as stressing as they can be.

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Judges play a crucial in assisting vulnerable witnesses in court. Is

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the attorney aware of the profound distress and the moralising should

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not exist amongst legal advisers about the increased pressure they

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are under, because of the imposition of continued legal aid cuts? Again,

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he will appreciate that legal aid is not part of my responsibilities. My

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experience of those who act in our courts on behalf of the defendant

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and on the crown is that they do the very best they do 2% the evidence in

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a clear way, and to give people the best experience they can -- to

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present evidence. I have no doubt they will continue to do so. When it

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comes to the cross-examination of young all the novel witnesses, both

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advocates and the judiciary have a role to make sure that

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cross-examination is conducted in a right way. I hope they will play

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their part in doing so. Mr Speaker, with your permission, I will answer

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this question alongside questioned eight and ten. The government is

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considering the devolution indication of the Bill of Rights.

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This will include engaging with devolved Administration is in Wales,

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Scotland and Northern Ireland. It emerged that the UK may be given a

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new role as a constitutional court. Given the Supreme Court is the final

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court for civil cases in Scotland, will be Attorney General commit

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before any proposals are included in a consultation, that he consult with

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the Scottish Government? If he is referring to the Lord Chancellor's

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evidence, which I've read, he's not right. What he was talking about was

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the prospects for considering the ways in which the Supreme Court

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might fulfil a different role, and he was making reference to the

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German example of how this is done. As he also knows, no proposals have

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been brought forward, you will see them when they are, and as I have

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said before, we will make sure there is proper consultation on any

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proposals. As the Attorney General will be aware, the human rights law

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has commented on the overlap on the Bill of Rights and pre-election

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periods in May. What discussion as he had with the Justice Secretary

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regarding the publication of the consultation? He will have to wait

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and see. On timing, he will know the Cabinet office have clear guidance

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as to the periods before the election, I don't know my right

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honourable friend is keen that all Jiro God is paid to those

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guidelines. -- all due diligence is paid.

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Alex Newell express concern he has not sought to talk rather built on

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the Scottish Government. Does the Attorney General agree that given

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the repercussions of the act, the secretary of the adjusters must

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formally engage with the Scottish Government to

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the honourable lady is right, I do know that Mr Neill and other

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ministers within the Scottish Government have had contact with

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ministers in the UK Government to discuss these matters. Again, I

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reassure her that when these proposals are brought forward, there

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will be proper consultation with the devolved administrations. The

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impending imposition of the British Bill of Rights could have the effect

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of curtailing the jurisdiction of the Court of Justice in Luxembourg

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and in Strasbourg. Is not the case this will require further

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renegotiation with our EU partners, netbook should not have formed a

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crucial part of the so-called renegotiation? I'm not sure there's

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much appetite for reopening those negotiations, but can I say, that

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regarding the Charter of fundamental rights, he may find that there are

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proposals coming from this government to make clearer what our

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relationship with that charter is, on political 30 of the treaties,

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which he will be aware of. Negotiated by a previous government,

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which makes clear that the charter does not extend right in this

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country. We will bring further proposals on clarifying that, and he

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will have a good opportunity to discuss them.

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Mr Speaker, I meet ministerial colleagues to discuss important

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issues of common interest, including on EU law. I'm not able to talk of

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any legal content, by convention it is not disclosed outside government.

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Recent judgments from The European Court of Human Rights strongly

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suggest the UK's powers Bill could violate human rights, physically

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information to build powers. What discussions as he had with his

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colleagues in the Home Office to ensure powers are provided for and

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are compatible with the convention? I can assure the honourable member

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that bearing in mind the most recent case in the Court of Appeal in

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November last year, the provisional view was that indeed it was not

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inconsistent with EU law. A reference has been made. I would

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therefore comment on that case, but can assure him that when it comes to

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issues on compatibility, very anxious consideration is always

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given to make sure legislation here is in accordance with the rule of

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law. In an unstable world, we need to keep the UK save and our

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partners. With the security charter, how is the going to get the balance

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right between civil liberties on the one hand and national-security on

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the other? He asks probably the most important

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question about that. I can reassure him that the draft bill and

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legislation that will come forward shortly strikes the balance. It

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involves judicial authorisation for the granting of warrants. The double

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lock process which involves the Secretary of State and the

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judiciary, that strikes the balance. The case involving David Davis and

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Tom Watson, which was referred to, with the Court of Appeal, it could

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have implications to the investigatory Powers Bill. That is

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being heard in April. How does he see that impacting on the timetable

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for that going through the House? The case will be heard in April.

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When a judgment will come is still unknown. The outcome of any case

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would be very carefully considered. I do not anticipate it causing a

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delay to the introduction of that important piece of legislation,

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bearing in mind the sunset revisions. Question four. I will

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answer this alongside question seven and nine. I meet regularly with

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ministerial colleagues to discuss issues of common interest, including

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on domestic and international human rights law. Not least because it has

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been said today, the House knows I am not able to discuss any legal

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content of the discussions, because this is not disclosed outside

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government. Question nine has been withdrawn. But he was not to know

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that. Thank you. Will he list which of the Convention rights in the

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human right sat -- Human Rights Act he will repeal? I have no plans to

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repeal any of them. I do not think any of us have any serious argument

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with the content of the European Convention on Human Rights. It is an

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admirable document. The difficulty we have is with the interpretation

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of it by the European Court of Human Rights. So it is not a matter of

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repealing rights. It is a matter of bringing common sense back into

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this, which the government is committed to do. Does he think it

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causes any legal or constitutional problem that the Lord Chancellor

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will no longer be able to ask his department officials for advice on

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the powers of the European court of justice? I do not think that is the

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position at all. The Lord Chancellor will continue to do the excellent

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job he is doing, of running the justice system. He will be able to

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ask for advice in that matter from his equally excellent government

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lawyers. Part of the UK's human rights obligations are to ensure

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minority communities are not subject to harassment. Will he agree with me

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that allegations of rabid anti-Semitic behaviour from the

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Oxford University Labour club are disgrace? A disgrace to Oxford, an

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embarrassment to the Labour Party and they should dealt with vastly. I

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do agree. These are troubling allegations, and I hope they are

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dealt with swiftly and effectively. All of us, on both sides, believe in

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the protection of human rights, and we believe in rules and laws that

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allow the protection to happen. What we are not in favour of is the

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perversion of human rights law by the introduction of silly cases that

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should not be before the court at all. I think that obscures the

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important work that my honourable friend is referring to. Under the

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Lisbon Treaty, the European Union has a treaty obligation to join the

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human convention -- European Convention on Human Rights, but

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joining this would be incompatible with EU law. Does this not just

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demonstrate that the European Court of Justice is indeed supreme? I am

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sure we were all worried that this would pass without mention of the

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European Union! Whether or not the European Union axioms to this as a

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matter for the European Union, so it is not unusual that it expresses

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opinion. What happens now is all member states need to consider

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carefully what action they take next. I'm sure that's what they will

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do. The attorney general will recall that during the Iraq war, the role

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of the attorney General played a very important part. It continued up

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until the various enquiries. I think he ought to be clear that in order

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to get rid of any doubt, whose side is he on, the justice minister or

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the Prime Minister? It is an easy question. I am on the side of the

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government. I made my position clear yesterday. In relation to enquiries

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and the role of the Attorney General, he is right that the

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Attorney General and the Law offices have an important part to play in

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ensuring that the government's actions stay within the law, both

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domestic and international, and previous and current law offices

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take that very seriously. Yesterday, Amnesty International published

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their annual report which criticises the government's plan to scrap

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Labour's excellent Human Rights Act. UK director also commented that the

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behaviour of the UK towards China, Saudi Arabia and eejit showed that

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the government has lost its passion to promote human rights. Doesn't the

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government Hotel -- Egypt's. Doesn't the government giving into this...

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On the side of the House, and I am sure in common with the honourable

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gentleman, will continue to passionately advocates because for

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the protection of human rights, both in this country and abroad. He is

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wrong to say that this government does not challenge those other

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states that have a doubtful human rights record. In relation to the

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Amnesty International report, I have huge respect for what they do, but

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they have overstated their case a little in this report. As I have

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said before, it is not the case that human rights and the Human Rights

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Act at the same thing. It is possible to protect human rights

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without the Human Rights Act, and to do so, better. That is what this

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government intends to do. Can we please speed up. I want to get to

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the last question, and progress is slow. The CPS has undertaken work to

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police priority on the improvement of rape prosecutions. I thank him

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for that brief reply. He will know that despite claims of the highest

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number of convictions ever, conviction rates for rape, domestic

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abuse and other sexual offences have fallen. I work closely with

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Sheffield rape crisis, and they make the point that there is a real

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postcode lottery, in terms of support for the ones. If victims are

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not supported, they are less likely to come forward. What discussions

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has he had with the Home Secretary to ensure adequate funding for

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sexual violence advisers? I work regularly with colleagues in the

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Home Office to look at the range of measures that need to be put in

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place to give support to pick them is of sexual offences. I will remind

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him that in terms of volumes, conviction rates continue to rise,

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and are the highest ever. And I reassure him that the CPS has

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engaged 102 specialist prosecutors in the units to place proper

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priority on the swift and effective prosecution of these cases. In our

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enthusiasm to get convictions, can he make sure the discussions with

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the Home Office, and police, do not lose their commitment to justice,

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and when they conduct investigations, they should not

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simply ignore potential evidence. The police should follow the

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evidence wherever it leads. There should be no presumptions of truth

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or otherwise, and they should objectively and fairly investigate

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cases before presenting them to the Crown Prosecution Service. Is he

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aware that in Scotland are conviction rate for rape and sexual

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offences has increased significantly over the last few years as a result

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of setting up a centralised sexual crimes unit in Edinburgh, in which

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prosecutors oversee the cases in Scotland. With the Minister like to

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visit? I am very grateful. England Women is a slightly different scale,

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and regional units have been the approach. But I agree with her that

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we need to standardise practice, and we are always very conscious of that

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in our conversations with the DPP and the CPS. Work is being done to

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standardise that. In the latest review of rape and sexual offence

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units, the CPS inspector found that the care given to the ends of rape

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and sexual assault fell well short of what is expected. Is he concerned

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by Kevin Green the's findings that in some areas the CPS have stopped

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investigate of advice to the police because resources are so

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overstretched? -- McGinty. That report related to a particular

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period which is now 12 to 18 months ago. Since then the CPS have taken

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huge steps in increasing the number of prosecutors and improving the

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methods by which the cases are assessed and managed. In the

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calendar year to the 31st of December 2015, we considered 467

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sentences and referred 150 fenders to the Court of Appeal. Can he

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confirmed that he is fulfilling our manifesto commitment to review the

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unduly lenient sentences scheme, in particular whether that review will

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take into account the family courts, where it is currently at the

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discretion of the Poseidon judge whether to refer cases? -- presiding

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judge. Yes, we will fulfil that commitment. I will also look at what

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she has said in relation to the youth courts and matters which are

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considered. There are difficulties including all cases in the youth

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courts, but we will look at what she says. It is clearly some awareness

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of the legal framework applicable to social media, but I do publish

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warnings online reminding people of their responsibilities with ever

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appropriate. My office also since tweets, warning the user of being in

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contempt where there is a particular problem. Can you explain what steps

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are being taken to prevent media coverage of ongoing cases? The media

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quite properly play a role in reporting cases, but it is the lack

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of responsibility that allows my office and the criminal to

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intervene, particularly in respect to the contempt of court act, 1981,

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and detailed guidelines are available on the CPS website.

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Questions to the Minister for women and equality is, Mr Stephen

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Patterson. Number one. With permission I will answer questions

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one and 12 together. The Prime Minister has set out challenging

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government targets to increase opportunities by 2020, including

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apprenticeships, employment, recruitment in the police and armed

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services. The Scottish Government has launched a programme integrating

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refugees in Scotland's communities, ensuring they have every opportunity

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to rebuild their lives. What similar initiatives has the UK

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