16/01/2017 House of Commons


16/01/2017

Recorded coverage of questions in the house of commons to the communities and local government secretary Sajid Javid and his ministerial team, from 16 January.


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Questions to the Secretary of State for Communities and Local

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Government. Happy New Year, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this

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question together with questionable four. Councils have long campaigned

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for one of the business rates retention. We judges to local

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Government Finance bill which will establish the framework for the

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reformed system and will work closely with local Government during

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the passage of the legislation to the reforms. I find the Secretary of

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State for his answer. I welcome the decision for Cornwall to be a pilot

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area for this. However, business rates there are low, especially

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compared to urban areas. Can he be sure the people of Cornwall the

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local council will not lose funding as a result of these changes? I'm

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pleased that Cornwall will be an area to pilot the elements of the

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new business rates retention system. The pilots will help us develop the

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system, want to work for local authorities. We have always been

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clear that in setting up the system we will ensure there is a

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redistribution between councils so areas do not lose our just because

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they collect less in local business rates at the moment. As you know,

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Buckinghamshire is the entrepreneurial heart of England.

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What assurance can he give the people there that the needs -based

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review and the new system will review -- result in rebalanced

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funding to better reflect economic growth in entrepreneurial areas? I

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visited the area a number of times and he is right to call it

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entrepreneurial. Under the new system, they will continue to get

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redistributed resources with baseline set so that all authorities

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are treated fairly. The Secretary of State will be aware that when the

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Select Committee looked at this issue they supported it in

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principle, the of details and so. One question that needs resolution

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is that in the in the future, the demand for adult social care is

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likely to grow quicker than the growth in business rates. Does he

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therefore recognise that as well as having 100% retention of business

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rates, local authorities will need additional funding for adult social

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care and will he look at that? First of all, I am sure the chair of the

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Select Committee welcomes the recent announcement last month of

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additional resources for our social care, but quite rightly, he points

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to the need for longer-term reform and the Government is taken that

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seriously. The Government's plans to devolve attendance allowance as part

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of business rates retention has caused great distress to over a

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million elderly people who rely on it to remain independence in their

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own homes. Can he reassure them that this reform will not strip them in

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any way of this vital allowance? Or the Honourable Lady highlights is

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that when the 100% retention reform takes place it will mean councils

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were collectively have an additional ?12.5 billion per year. More

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responsibilities do need to be pushed down to councils and the

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honourable lady is asking about what may be a make up those

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responsibilities. We've not decided yet but will. In the local

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Government area it is the district who decides where to allocate land

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for commercial development. Can the Secretary of State ensure that the

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districts are appropriately rewarded for taking difficult decisions? My

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honourable friend makes a good point about districts and their role in

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promoting business and development. I'm sure he will welcome the bill

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introduced last week, the father councils now outside of London can

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also promote business Taverna districts. The Government's Autumn

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Statement should an increase of ?2.4 billion income to the Treasury from

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business rates, 2017-2018. It is still an allocated. Will he protect

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local people from massive increases in council ties by investing this

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money and social care and ending the precept that suggested by Unison,

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the largest trade union supporting care workers, back in October last

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year. The honourable lady will be aware that back in 2010, this

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country had a huge Budget deficit thanks to the last Government. All

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areas of Government had -- have to contribute to that and that includes

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local. I'm sure she will welcome this change is announced last month.

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Does the new system allow local authorities and discretion with

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regard to business rates levied on hospitals such as Southampton

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hospital, which following a revaluation, faces a large increase

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in business rates? I can sell my honourable friend that it does allow

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some discretion to councils, but I don't think for hospitals it will

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all I -- apply. It will apply to businesses and since my honourable

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friend has made a point, I will take it further. Further to the question

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of my honourable friend asked, when the Government committed to letting

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local authorities keep 100% of business rate income, they also

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promised further cuts to their funding from Whitehall. Given that

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they estimate the councils are already underfunded for the legal

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responsibilities, including social care to the tune of almost ?6

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billion, when a canny Secretary of State tell the House what further

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cuts in funding that people can expect the local services to suffer

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in England? The honourable member will be aware and should be since we

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publicly announced the numbers that is 97% of councils have accepted the

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four year Budget deal where they have come forward with efficiency,

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offerings and in return, the Government has guaranteed funding.

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That does not mask the fact that it is challenging for so many councils

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dealing with their settlement, the many councils are able to deal with

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that and honourable gentleman should look carefully about. -- carefully

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at that. Our actions to the spending review in 2015 and the settlement

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have brought the funding to 7.6 billion over the four years. How

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much they spend on adult social care is a matter for local councillors

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who know these pressures best. The local Government Association have

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been clear that the money raised through increasing that precept will

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not be nearly enough to address the ?2.6 billion gap facing adult social

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care by 2020. Instead of exacerbating the existing postcode

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lottery, will he not commit to an additional ring fence resources into

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social care to tackle this crisis? Mr Speaker, in the last spending

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review with the Government allocated three and a half billion pounds a

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year by 2022 adult social care. Recently I and the additional help

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of ?9 million over the next two years. Local councils do play a role

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in this and I know that in Sunderland, the average council tax

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oil is down in real terms and if in Sunderland a local councillor

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chooses to allocate more, they can do that. For many of my constituents

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the fundamental problem in many cases is we still separate health

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care funding and social provision. It makes no sense to my constituents

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and less to me. Can I urge the Secretary of State to speed up the

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integration of health and social provision so we can deal with the

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needs of patients in the round and put those first and not budgetary

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arguments. My honourable friend makes an important point and that's

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when it comes to adult social care, a 's all about money. Of course it

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has a huge role to play, but it is how that is delivered and we've seen

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many councils, where they can approach that integration in a

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better way, they have seen significant efficiencies and we can

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learn from that. I have the Secretary of State to face the House

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and we can benefit from his mellifluous tones. Between 2010 at

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2020, ?40 million will have been taken out of adult social care

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Budget and you can see the effect just this weekend when you see what

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is happening in our local NHS hospitals. Will the Minister think

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again and ensure the problem is that local are addressed by Central

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Government ring fenced money? I'm sure the honourable lady will

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welcome the announcement that was made a a few weeks ago, which is

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trying to recognise those precious she identifies and that is an

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additional funding on top of the 3.5 by 2020 and an additional nine and

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an additional 900 million over the next two years, but what she rightly

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highlights is an addition where it will -- situation that we need to

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keep looking at. Further to what he said, I couldn't agree more. I guess

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most members have had surgery somebody that desperately needs

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help. The local Government agree they need help as so does the health

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service, but the health service and local Government blaming each other.

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It becomes a mess. Would it not be a good idea on a cross-party basis to

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look at a new model for social care. Mr Speaker, my honourable friend is

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correct to point that out. I've seen many situations like that in my

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constituency. He also highlights the need for all of us to talk about

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this issue and see what we can do working together. According to

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Stoke-on-Trent's clinical commissioning group, there are 26

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days between someone leaving Stoke and Royal hospital and getting

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social care in place. That's despite a ?6 million subsidy. Is that the

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City Council's fault or the Government's lack of funding? The

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honourable member highlights that for many areas, of course delivering

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adult social care is challenging and that is why I know he would welcome

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the recent announcement we made for additional funding on top of a

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funding settlement announced in the spending review in 2015. The

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Government also recognises there needs to be a long-term sustainable

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solution and I know that is the reform he would welcome. Having

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spent to date with carers and just before Christmas seeing their

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amazing work, they, like me, feel frustrated they are constantly under

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pressure. With the minister look at what could be done in increasing

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social care and making sure it is subject to a cast iron ring fenced

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to make sure the money goes where it is needed most? I can assure my

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honourable friend we will continue to look at the re-sources, both for

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local councils and Central Government to ensure they are both

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adequate. Also, we can continue to push the case for reform to ensure

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all councils realise more committed and besides funding. What steps is

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the Secretary of State taking to ensure local authorities are able to

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move patients in need of social care from hospitals to a more appropriate

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facility in a timely Mrs Beckett, the honourable Lady

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will know there is a role in doing that well from my department and

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working with local authorities and the Department of Health. -- Mr

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Speaker. That is why we are part of the funding ?1.5 billion by 2020 for

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the improved better care fund is designed to do just that, which is

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money that goes towards trying to promote just such integration. Thank

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you, Mr Speaker. The House of Commons library figures show that in

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the period from November 2013 to November 2016, instances of bed

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blocking where social care were solely responsible increased by 89%.

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In the 12 months to November 2016 alone, bed blocking has increased by

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39%. Does the Minister recognise that the preset package brought

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forward by the Government in December is insufficient to solve

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the crisis in our social care system, and is putting further

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pressure on an already stretched NHS? Mr Speaker, what the Minister

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recognises is that the additional funding announced in December will

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make a big difference. ?240 million of additional money coming in from

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the new homes bonus repurposed in, an additional ?600 million, it is

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new money, all at an additional ?600 million that is coming in from the

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precept changes. When it comes to the using of money, we all want to

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see a reduction in delayed transfers of care, she will be aware of big

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differences between local councils in delayed transfers of care, I

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think some councils can level others. Number three, Mr Speaker.

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With your permission, I will answer this question together with question

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number 15. 97% of councils have accepted our historic offer of four

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funding certainty and local government Finance Bill will ensure

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councils keep 100% of locally collected taxes by the end of this

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Parliament. The Secretary of State will be particularly aware that

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Worcestershire is an attractive place to live, work and visit and a

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particularly attractive place to retire, which is why we have a

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disproportionately large elderly publishing. How is the Department

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factoring in the additional needs of the more elderly publish in areas in

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the long-term funding plans? I thank my honourable friend for the

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question and as a Worcester MP myself I wholeheartedly agree with

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his opinion of our great country. It is a great place for anyone to

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visit, live and to have a holiday Inn. I recognise the demographic

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pressures are affecting different areas in different ways. That is why

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we are undertaking a fairer funding review to introduce a more

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up-to-date and more transparent and fair means assessment formula,

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something I know my honourable friend will welcome. Mr Speaker, as

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you well know, the Secretary of State has received a proposal from

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Buckinghamshire County Council to create a new unitary authority to

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serve the whole county. He is also having a meeting with the district

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councils, who are submitting a proposal to him to unitary

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authorities. Can the Secretary of State confirm to us that he will

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give both those proposals equal and full consideration, including

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consulting with local residents, as happened in Dorset, can he assure me

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that unitary status will not lead to any reduction in funding for

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residents? Mr Speaker, I can give my right honourable friend the

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assurance she seeks, I will give careful consideration to all

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proposals received from local authorities, such as those in

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Buckinghamshire, including any financial implications. We need to

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ensure that any reform is right for local people and can deliver better

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services and a strong local leadership. I should declare I am an

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elected member in Redbridge and local authorities like face a double

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whammy of pressures, both through an ageing population but also a high

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birth rate, which has real funding pressures on our local authority.

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Does the Secretary of State accept that even by diverting resources

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from other council services into adult social care, and even by

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charging the maximum social care presets available, local authorities

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like-minded will still face a shortfall in funding for vital

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services for older people and what will he do about it? Mr Speaker, the

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measures were announced in December will help is local authority. They

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will help every local authority in the land to deliver more adult

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social care services, but as I have said, as well as more money, we need

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reform and some councils do need to learn from others. The 2015

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committee report outlined a reduction in central government

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support to local authorities by 37% between 2010 and 2016. Whilst did --

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what does the Secretary of State had to say to my constituents concerned

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about how the cuts announced by Bristol City Council last week will

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affect them? I would say to her that Bristol South constituents do not

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forget where a Labour Government gives you, the deepest deficit of

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any developed country, the biggest recession in almost 100 years, the

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largest banking bailout, all of that has meant that this Government has

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had to make some difficult decisions, and every part of local

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government has had to contribute. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Does my right

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honourable friend agree with me that the long-term financial stability of

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local government is not only a function of funding from government,

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but good management within local authorities? What does my right

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honourable friend think we can do to attract people with business

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experience to run good local government? My honourable friend

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makes a very good point. It is also about leadership and that means

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having many businesses in your area and promoting them, and you need

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someone with a good track record, who has got that experience that

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local people would benefit from. I can think of someone like that in

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the West Midlands, Andy Street. He knows full well that leaving

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patients in hospital when they are medically fit to be discharged, like

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130 currently at Aintree Hospital, is a very expensive way of looking

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after people. Why is he not shouting from the rooftops for the 4.6

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billion that was cut from social care to be reinvested so that

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councils can address the problem now and in the long-term? Mr Speaker,

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helping with adult social care is about resources, that is why I know

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the honourable gentleman would welcome the announcement of a few

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weeks ago, an additional ?900 million over the next two years, but

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also, I'm sure he will agree it is about reform as well and he will

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have noticed the big difference in delayed transfers of care between

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one authority and another. Question five. Mr Speaker, the Government has

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listened to calls from local government and representations made

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by honourable and right honourable members across the House. New

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changes outlined in the provisional of local leisure provision of local

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government finance report pointed to an extra ?900 million over the next

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two years. The precept would raise about two by 5 million in Sutton but

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it is losing around 8 million in support grants. A one-off social

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care grant would give Sutton about ?750,000, but it is losing 1.5

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million from the new homes bonus changes, which are paying for the

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one-off grant, resulting in a loss of ?800,000. Does the Minister agree

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that as long as the Government are robbing Peter to pay Paul, we will

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see cancer operations cancelled and patients left in distress because of

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bed blocking? Mr Speaker, as a result of the Spending Review

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announcement of ?3.5 billion extra into adult social care by 2020, that

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is per year, and the announcement I made a few weeks ago, ?900 million

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over the next two years, all councils including Sutton will have

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more resources to do with adult social care challenges. I think

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you'll agree with me that the progress in Torbay made in adult

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social care was very welcome, but also agree that would he agree that

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it was concerning that strict financial rules from NHS England

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prompting a renegotiation in terms of a risk agreement, even though

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extra money was not spent? Will he worked to see if we can resolve

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this? First of all, I am happy to work with my honourable friend and

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see what can be done, and to listen to the issue in Torbay, but Torbay

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is a good example of how integration can work and how it can really help

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local people. Number six, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The

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Government is committed to tackling homelessness, we have launched a ?50

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million homelessness prevention package and we are backing the most

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ambitious legislative reforms in decades through the homelessness

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reduction bill. I am delighted that Chelmsford will be one of the

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country bold-mac first trailblazer areas announced by the Prime

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Minister last month. -- the country bold-mac. Would he agree with me

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that whilst leaving the 20th century -- rough sleeping in the 20th

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century is unacceptable, can to me more about what has been done that

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only in England but also in Chelmsford, to end this stain on our

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society? Mr Speaker, I think the whole House will agree with my right

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honourable friend that it is totally unacceptable. We should do all we

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can to end rough sleeping. Our ?20 million rough sleeping grant will

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fund 54 projects working to provide rapid response support for rough

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sleepers across England. It will help prevent people from spending a

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night on the streets in the first place. I'm delighted to tell my

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right honourable friend that Chelmsford will receive almost

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?900,000 for preventing homelessness in partnership with neighbouring

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local authorities. The inspirational ladies football player Fara Williams

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was homeless at 15 but went on to captain and play 157 times for

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England and is now at Arsenal. Following the appeal for funds to

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set up the first national freephone helpline for 16 to 25-year-olds, who

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are homeless and at risk of a life on the streets, with the Minister

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agree that this is a tremendous initiative, long overdue and should

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be government funded? I think the honourable lady quite rightly brings

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to our attention a prime example of the fact that just because somebody

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is homeless or somebody is rough sleeping, they do not have the

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ability to actually reach their full potential and that is what we need

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to encourage. I would say to the honourable lady that the Government

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currently pays for a service called Street Link, where people can ring

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in or use an app where they can report people who are sleeping

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rough, which is then brought to the attention of the local housing needs

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provider. With the Minister congratulate Kettering Borough

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Council and its housing director John Conway for the measures they

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have taken during the recent cold weather to get all rough sleepers

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off the streets in Kettering and give them the appropriate housing

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advice they need? I thank my honourable friend for bringing in

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that very, very important and heartening example, some of our

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local authorities are doing excellent work to prevent

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homelessness and rough sleeping and the type of initiative that my

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honourable friend is talking about is the type of initiative that

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should be followed by other local authorities. Thank you, Mr Speaker.

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On Wednesday Glasgow City Council considered a report that shows the

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devastating impact that universal credit Willard is having on

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homelessness services in the city. So far it has resulted in 73

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homeless individuals racking up debts to the Council of ?144,000. It

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is completely unsustainable, both for the individuals and for the

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Council. Can the Minister Tommy what impact the Willard is having on

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local authorities across the UK? -- tell me. This Government has

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increased discretionary housing payments to ?870 million across this

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Parliament to mitigate some of the short-term challenges that people

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face from the welfare changes that are being made. I would also say to

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the honourable lady that in terms of local housing allowance rate, 30% of

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that funding or the savings from the policy will be repurposed to help

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people that are in the highest value areas in terms of the challenges of

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affordability. I'm afraid that is completely inadequate. Since 2011 to

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2012 welfare reform has meant homelessness performs in Glasgow

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have seen cuts over ?6 million to the temporary accommodation budgets.

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Does the Minister not accept that to really help rough sleepers and to

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help people who are homeless, there must be actual coordinated work

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across all government departments? You cannot have one department

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undermining the services of another. That is certainly a good point the

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honourable lady mentions and I can assure the honourable lady that we

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are working extremely hard across government through a cross

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governmental working group that I chair. I can also say to the

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honourable lady in relation to the issue of temporary accommodation

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that she mentions, the management fee which originates from the DWP

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policy, is being devolved to local authorities, been devolved to the

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Scottish Government. Rather than patting themselves on the back,

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should the Government not be apologising for allowing rough

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sleeping the double since 2010? This is not an insoluble problem, it just

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requires action like that taken by the last Labour Government... Which

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saw street homelessness cut by three quarters. So will the Minister adopt

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the initiative announced last month by my right honourable friend the

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member for Wentworth and Darren and commit to an extra 4000 homes to end

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rough sleeping altogether? Will not be lost on him that during

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the Labour Government in 2003, homelessness was at a peak. What I

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would say is this Government is committed to making sure we

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eradicate rough sleeping and we are working extremely hard. There's ?20

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million scheme put local authorities, ?10 million to the

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social impact upon to get all most entrenched rough sleepers off the

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street. We've taken significant action to help high streets thrive

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and changing shopping habits. Figures from the estate agents show

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that investment in high street retail property last year was up 17%

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from the year before. That high streets in my constituency continue

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to struggle, just as they do all over the UK. The local authority

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does what they can be their support is limited. They need intervention

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and support to make the transformation needed. Will the

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Minister meet with me? I would be delighted to meet. The business rate

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revaluation will have a positive impact. I discussed this with the

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chair of his local enterprise partnership, Christine Gaskell, just

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before Christmas. The timer more than happy to meet to discuss that

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and we're walking with... This is a varied picture across the UK. Small

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market towns are being stripped of their banks. What is the policy of

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the Minister to try and encourage more competition in the retail

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banking sector so that we can try and encourage banking in our rural

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towns? This is an important point. It has affected my own constituency.

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I'm happy to discuss this with the Treasury further. The business rate

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revaluation will have a positive impact on retail property in his

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constituency, as it will across many parts of the North and Midlands. We

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recognise the pressures faced by the Central care system on top of the

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funding we announced in 2015, which will deliver 3.5 billion a year by

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2020, we are providing an additional 900 million over the next two years

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for social care. Unfortunately, the Roma has already had to make ?55

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million worth of cuts. The precepts will bring you 4 million, but

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there's another 40 million of cuts the pipeline so we are facing is

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fight that some villagers have private contractors and cons of all

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social care whatsoever. Could I suggest the ministry goes back to

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the Treasury and asks for an announcement on March the 8th? The

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honourable lady will know that the Roma will benefit from the

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additional ?900 million the Government is giving local

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authorities over the latest two years.

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Given that so much funding for adult social care goes to care homes and

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given that so many of those their inspections, would be ministerial

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team consider wrapping care home reform into the adult social care

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reform? And what they consider require local authorities to build

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new care homes just as they do schools and surgeries? We are always

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willing to listen to constructive suggestions. My honourable friend

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may be aware the Department of Health are looking very carefully at

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the way care homes are provided, particularly in terms of the

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regulation and the role of the seat QC. Funding per head of population

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in Westminster and Kensington and Chelsea is almost that double

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received by Enfield, which is facing spending pressures of ?5 million in

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adult social care in 2017-2018. Could the Minister confirm that he

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will look both that the ring fencing issue and will reflect the assessed

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needs of our communities in the future local Government funding

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formula? I met with a chief finance officer of Enfield along with my

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honourable friend for an field and Southgate is part of the local

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Government finance settlement consultation. She will be aware that

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local authorities across the country will get benefit of the ?900 million

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that they will have access to over the next two years and improved care

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which is also ramping up quickly over the next three years. The

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neighbourhood planning Bill and my recent statements will further

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strengthen neighbourhood planning, ensuring communities have the

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ability to shape their area and not speculative development. Thank you

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for that welcome and the sun. It has been encouraging to watch

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communities develop their own plans. Could it clarify how much time

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councils and communities will have two update their neighbourhood plans

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once new housing number data has been published? Will he ensure

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neighbourhood and local plans carry full weight for that period? I can

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reassure my right honourable friend that the Government's expectation

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will be every five years, but when there is new data, it doesn't mean

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the existing plans are automatically out of date. Will the Minister

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ensure that when we have neighbourhood plans, we involve

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local and national businesses are more in that planning procedure? So

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many of these global and national chains suck the money out of our

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communities and many of them put little back in terms of investment.

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What can we see what can introduce? Well, first of all, there's the

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possibility of having neighbourhood plans for business district areas.

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There's the wider issue of ensuring that we capture the uplift in value

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when businesses apply for planning permission. There's a review on my

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desk at the moment. Would he pay tribute to the hundreds who devoted

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a great deal of their time putting together neighbourhood plans and

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assure us that in his white paper, that steps will be taken to secure

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the integrity of those plans? I'd like to pay tribute to not just that

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the people he mentions but to him also, because he's been a huge

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champion for neighbourhood planning. I hope the ministerial statement as

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hell to address some of his concerns and there will be further action in

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the housing white paper. Balou Du Reventon pressure on local budgets

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to this completely misses the point in

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terms of local need. To homes. Can you say will be done to offensive as

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this? The National Planning Policy

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Framework is clear. They shouldn't just look at the total number of

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homes require, but the right mix of housing to cater for the

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demographic, the number of elderly people and so she is right to draw

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attention to that issue. I welcome the increased number of housing has

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doubled since 2009, but to get to the level we need, we need a

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resurgence of the small and medium-sized house-building. To the

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Minister agree we need local authorities and communities to

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allocate more small sites in the local plan are neighbourhood plans?

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He is right, we are far too dependent at this point on a small

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number of large developers and we need both to make sure the land is

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released and is attracted to small developers and make sure they have

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access to finance. Since July, we've announced a 3 billion fund and an

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additional 1.4 billion for affordable housing and a ?2 billion

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construction programme. 2 billion infrastructure fund and support for

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17 garden towns and villages and the white paper will contain further

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measures. The all party group of which I'm chairman finance the

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quality of new-build housing. Will he be willing to meet with all party

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group to discuss our findings on what suggestions could be included

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in the forthcoming white paper as well? I would be delighted. I

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attended the meeting on the all party rental sector. Which he also

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chairs! Busy man. But he is quite right to say that as we address the

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fundamental challenge to get the homes we desperately need, we must

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not lose sight as quality as well as quantity. Or Westminster Council

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right to expect authorities in the South East today, responsibility of

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housing as well as education and social care for London's people? I

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would think London MPs and Westminster councillors and

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everybody would expect as much as possible that local authorities

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should meet the need to howls those in their own area and that is what I

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guidance is clear run. The fights and local authorities have to police

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people outside their areas is an indictment of the failure of this

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country over the last 40 years to build enough homes. We will correct

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that. Local communities are incentivised to deliver new homes.

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However, few residents are aware of this and do not see the gain of

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development. With the Minister agree that local authorities to set out

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how they spend their new home bonus in the annual council tax bills

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statement? He makes an important point which I'm happy to look into.

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There's a wider issue of ensuring the communities see the benefits of

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new housing. There's community infrastructure Levy and making sure

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communities know the benefits they are getting in return for accepting

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housing. I don't think we can do much more in this area if their

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Budget was being cut by 20% compared to just 1% in Surrey and 2% in

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Buckinghamshire. It has put pressure on a whole range of services, not

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just here but we are seeing libraries close, social services

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under pressure. Over Christmas, hard-working low-paid staff had to

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take three days unpaid leave, effectively a pay cut of 1% because

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of this Government's cuts. How can you tell me the cuts are in anyway

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fair? The question was about building more homes and as I pointed

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out in the course of this Parliament, they aren't doubling the

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housing Budget which will enable more homes to be built. The

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Government concluded the business rates review in March 2000 16.

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Following that, the Government announced a 6.7 billion cut in rates

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over the next five years and a permanent doubling of small business

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rates relief. Six and a thousand small businesses will now pay no

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business rates at all. I hear what he said in there's no

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doubt there are external factors challenging our high streets. But

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I'd say there's a significant package, 6.7 billion. You may want

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to encourage some of the business on his high street to check the

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re-evaluation of their business rate following the 2017 business rate

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revaluation which is now online. No one should ever have to sleep

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rough. Our ?20 million grants will help those new to the streets.

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Social and buy bonds will also cover 48 areas ambled on success of the

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social impact bond which we funded in London. It has helped over 400

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entrance rough sleepers get by, feet and into accommodation. I appreciate

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that. But number of rough sleepers are district is very high. Local

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trusts are tackling it, but the council Budget has been slashed by

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50%. Would he agree that unless we support local authorities, we stand

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no chance of reducing the number of rough sleepers? She will know, this

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Government is backing the homelessness reduction Bill

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currently going through the House. That will put a number of

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obligations on local authorities to hold people earlier so they don't

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become homeless. The announcement in terms of funding for the board will

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be made shortly and we are also, as she has heard, providing ?50 million

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to start that work at this point so we do not waste time for the

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legislation to come into effect. This Speaker, we are currently

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looking at alternative ways of giving to the homeless, such as

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vouchers, or through a website. Can I ask the Minister to look at this

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alternative method of giving as it is possible to take them forward? My

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honourable friend makes a very good point and it is generally for

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members of the public to consider the way in which they may want to

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give to people that are homeless. As I've said, the Government is

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absolutely focused on helping rough sleepers and the social impact bond,

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?10 million will help the most entrenched sleepers off the street

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and I'm sure that's what you want to see. Mr Speaker, the pub is at the

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heart of community life and that's why we've made provision for assets

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of community value for committees that value their pub.

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There are 750 probes listed on the assets of community value. The

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moment a nomination goes in, those rights are removed. Local

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authorities are free if they wish to apply for an article for designation

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and remove those rights across a whole area.

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I can announce to the House that we are providing ?50,000 of funding to

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pubs which will help them be valued by communities. They are in the

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process of introducing banning orders and civil penalties of up to

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?30,000 and mandatory licensing. We need to drive up the road

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landlord -- rogue landlords so the decent ones are not facing

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competition.

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