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Welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage of the House of Commons. | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
The Prime Minister will make a statement on the Grenfell Tower | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
disaster in the few minutes. At least 79 people are thought to have | :00:22. | :00:26. | |
been killed. The Home Secretary Amber Rudd will then make a | :00:27. | :00:30. | |
statement on the recent terror attacks in Manchester, London | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
Bridge, and Finsbury Park. Andrea Leadsom will then make a statement | :00:35. | :00:38. | |
on the forthcoming business in the chamber. The main business today is | :00:39. | :00:47. | |
the second day of the Queen's speech. Other manifesto proposals | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
include a means testing the winter fuel allowance has been dropped. The | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
vote on the Queen's speech is expected next Thursday at 5pm. There | :00:58. | :01:03. | |
will be a round-up of the Day in both Houses of Parliament at 11pm | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
tonight. All members wishing to take their | :01:06. | :01:30. | |
seats please come to the table. I swear by all mighty God that I will | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
be true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen so help me God. | :01:36. | :01:49. | |
I affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty | :01:50. | :01:55. | |
Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So | :01:56. | :01:58. | |
help me God. Statement, the Prime Minister. With | :01:59. | :03:11. | |
permission, Mr Speaker, I would like to make a statement on the disaster | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
at Grenfell Tower. I would like to start by apologising to the Leader | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
of the Opposition for the short notice he has had of this statement. | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
I received an important update in the hour before making this | :03:25. | :03:27. | |
statement which I felt was essential to bring to the attention of the | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
House this morning. What happened in the early hours of last Wednesday | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
morning was one of the most unimaginable tragedy is our country | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
has seen in many years. As of this morning, 79 people have been | :03:41. | :03:43. | |
confirmed dead or listed as missing presumed dead, and with work still | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
ongoing to recover the bodies, sadly the death toll may rise further. We | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
already know that many children are among the dead, and that in some | :03:52. | :03:58. | |
cases, whole families have perished. Those who survived have lost loved | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
ones, friends, neighbours, and in many cases, everything they own. It | :04:04. | :04:07. | |
should never have happened. In a few moments I will say how we will | :04:08. | :04:15. | |
discover why it did. That initial failure was then compounded by the | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
fact that the support on the ground in the initial Iris was not good | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
enough. As Prime Minister, I have apologised for that failure and | :04:24. | :04:26. | |
taken responsibility for what we can to put it right. On my first visit | :04:27. | :04:33. | |
to North Kensington, I met with the emergency services. These | :04:34. | :04:34. | |
extraordinary men and women put their lives on the line to save | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
others, and my first responsibility was to check they had all the | :04:39. | :04:43. | |
resources they needed. I then visited Chelsea and Westminster | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
Hospital, where I met some of the most seriously injured survivors. It | :04:48. | :04:50. | |
was from that experience that I decided we had to have an emergency | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
fund. I also met a group of residents at Kensington who I | :04:56. | :04:59. | |
invited to come to Downing Street last weekend. I returned to | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
Kensington last night to hear directly from them about the | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
progress being made. What became clear very quickly is that the Royal | :05:07. | :05:09. | |
Borough of Kensington and Chelsea could not cope, and it is right that | :05:10. | :05:13. | |
the chief executive officer has now resigned. It is also why I set up | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
the Grenfell Tower recovery task force, which I have been cheering | :05:18. | :05:21. | |
personally. But this is not just about the steps we take in the first | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
few weeks. -- which I have been chairing personally. Let me set out | :05:27. | :05:34. | |
in detail the steps that we are taking to support the victims and | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
rehouse those who have lost their homes. On Friday morning, the | :05:39. | :05:45. | |
Government established a central command centre. On the half of the | :05:46. | :05:55. | |
whole House, I want to thank the team for all the work they are | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
doing. -- on behalf. I also want to pay to beat the fantastic response | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
from London boroughs, as well as the Mayor of London, and leading figures | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
from a number of councils outside London. I want to thank the army of | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
volunteers who stepped in to provide shelter, sustenance, comfort and | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
practical support, and I want to thank my Communities Secretary and | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
the ministers for housing and planning, the Minister for London, | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
and the Minister for policing and the Fire Service for the work they | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
have been doing. There are currently around 600 people working on the | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
site and then the immediate area who are working to provide support to | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
the victims. A sports centre has been transformed into an emergency | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
committee hub, staffed by 40 officials from six Government | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
departments. They are ensuring that people have essential documents like | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
driving licences and passports that are fundamental to carrying on with | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
their lives. They have also been joined by experts from transport for | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
London, citizens advice and the Red Cross, NHS mental health staff, and | :07:03. | :07:06. | |
AGP. Anyone affected by the police can walk in and access the support | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
they need, and so far there have been over 700 visits to the centre. | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
The victim support unit has an emergency helpline which provides a | :07:20. | :07:24. | |
single point of contact for victims who need to deal with multiple | :07:25. | :07:27. | |
Government services in the way of the disaster. Each family whose home | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
was destroyed has received a ?5,000 down payment from the emergency fund | :07:33. | :07:35. | |
to buy food, clothes, and other essentials. We are working to ensure | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
that everyone gets the money they are untitled two. Additional adults | :07:40. | :07:48. | |
over 16 in these houses are being paid ?500 in cash. As of midday on | :07:49. | :07:58. | |
Wednesday, we had made payments of over ?700,000. It is absolutely | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
essential, Mr Speaker, that people understand they can keep the money | :08:04. | :08:07. | |
they receive. These grants are not loans, and they will not be expected | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
to repay a single penny. Neither are the waiving any legal rights as a | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
result of accepting this financial help. The payments will be | :08:17. | :08:23. | |
disregarded for means tested welfare payments, so nobody in receipt of | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
benefits will see their benefits cut to the except emergency support. And | :08:28. | :08:30. | |
I would like to reassure people that we will not use this tragic incident | :08:31. | :08:35. | |
as a reason to carry out immigration checks on those involved or on those | :08:36. | :08:42. | |
providing vital information to identify victims are assisting with | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
the criminal investigation. We will make sure that all victims, | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
irrespective of their immigration status, will be able to access the | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
services they need including health care and accommodation. In terms of | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
local schools, Kensington Aldridge Academy, the school next door to the | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
tower, remains closed. Always pupils have already been accommodated at | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
other schools in the area. The Department for Education is ensuring | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
that children who are sitting there GCSEs receive an appropriate exam | :09:12. | :09:15. | |
dispensation. Counselling has been offered to local schoolchildren and | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
two teachers affected by the fire. Turning to the housing, 151 homes | :09:21. | :09:26. | |
were destroyed in the fire, most in the tower itself, but also several | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
in the immediate facility. All those who have lost their homes have been | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
offered emergency Hotel accommodation and all will be | :09:35. | :09:37. | |
offered the housing within three weeks. Already, 164 suitable | :09:38. | :09:41. | |
properties have been identified, and they are being checked and made | :09:42. | :09:45. | |
ready for people to move into. In the longer term, everyone who's home | :09:46. | :09:50. | |
was destroyed will be guaranteed a new home on the same terms as those | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
lost. 68 of those will be in a new low-rise block which has just been | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
built. The developer has generously offered to turn over the entire | :10:02. | :10:04. | |
block at cost price. Contractors are on site now working 20 47 to ensure | :10:05. | :10:12. | |
that the first families can move in as soon as possible. -- are working | :10:13. | :10:20. | |
24/7. Emergency hotel accommodation is available for everyone who does | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
not want to maintain in a damaged property, and over 100 hotel rooms | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
have already been provided. We are also putting in place practical | :10:30. | :10:32. | |
support to help accelerate necessary repairs and yesterday drew on | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
support from the army to assist with this. Some survivors have said they | :10:38. | :10:41. | |
want to leave the local area, and we will of course support that and help | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
them to find a home elsewhere, but I want to be absolutely clear, nobody | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
is forced to move somewhere they do not want to go. And if any | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
honourable member thinks they know of someone being treated in this | :10:54. | :10:58. | |
way, they should contract -- contact my office in Downing Street with the | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
details. We quickly decided there had to be an independent public | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
enquiry as the scale of the disaster became clear. As I said to the House | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
yesterday, it will be chaired by a judge to discover who was | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
responsible and to provide justice for the victims and their families | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
who suffered so terribly. All of those with an interest including | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
victims and their families will be consulted and we will provide help | :11:26. | :11:32. | |
for those affected. It became clear that they want support to come | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
together as a group, to have their voices heard, and the Government | :11:38. | :11:39. | |
will play its part in helping them to do so. For too long, residents | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
have been overlooked and ignored, but we will ensure that they are | :11:46. | :11:49. | |
involved in every step of this process. No stone will be left | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
unturned in this enquiry, and for any guilty parties there will be | :11:54. | :12:00. | |
nowhere to hide. I expect the chair of the enquiry will want to | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
I know many others living in tall residential buildings will have | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
concerns about safety after what happened at Grenfell Tower. All | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
social landlords have been instructed to carry out additional | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
safety checks on powered blocks and ensure appropriate measures are in | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
place -- tower blocks. This is being done in cooperation with local Fire | :12:26. | :12:29. | |
And Rescue Services. We have also taken steps to make private | :12:30. | :12:37. | |
landlords aware. The House should be careful and speculating what caused | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
the fire but as a precaution the Government has arranged to test | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
cladding in all relevant tower blocks. Before I came to the | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
Chamber, I was informed a number have come back as combustible. The | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
relevant local authorities and Fire Services have been informed and as I | :12:55. | :12:59. | |
speak they are taking all possible steps to ensure buildings are safe | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
and to inform affected residents. Immediately after this statement, | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
the Department for Communities and Local Government will contact any | :13:09. | :13:11. | |
MPs Fuchs constituents are affected and the Communities Secretary will | :13:12. | :13:15. | |
provide a further update later today -- whose constituents. We contest | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
over 100 buildings a day and the results come in hours. I urge any | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
landlord to send samples for testing as soon as possible. Any results | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
will be communicated immediately to local authorities and local Fire | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
Services. Landlords have a legal obligation to provide safe buildings | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
and where they cannot do that, we expect alternative accommodation to | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
be provided. We cannot and will not ask people to live in unsafe homes. | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
It is clear the royal borough of Kensington and Chelsea were not able | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
to cope with the scale of the tragedy so we will also develop a | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
new strategy which could include a new task force that can help at | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
times of emergency. We must learn some of the lessons of this and | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
previous disasters were bereaved families have not had the support | :14:10. | :14:13. | |
they need so we will introduce an independent public advocate for | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
public disasters, a strong independent voice for victims acting | :14:18. | :14:20. | |
on behalf of bereaved families and supporting them at public inquests | :14:21. | :14:26. | |
and inquiries. Mr Speaker, in the past week, a lot of remarkable | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
people have gone above and beyond to help deal with the fire and its | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
aftermath. First and foremost, of course, the incredible men and women | :14:36. | :14:38. | |
of the emergency services who did so much to save so many lives. I cannot | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
imagine the kind of bravery it takes to run into a burning building and | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
head upstairs when any normal person would head for the exit. We have | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
also seen sterling work from people across the public sector, teachers, | :14:53. | :14:56. | |
nurses, staff from local authorities, civil servants, doing | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
all they can to help. We have seen incredible acts of generosity from | :15:01. | :15:12. | |
private businesses and the people of this great city and country have | :15:13. | :15:14. | |
stepped up to help in any way they can, donating money, clothes, toys | :15:15. | :15:17. | |
and food, volunteering time and so much more. Above all, I want to pay | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
tribute to the people of Kensington, they have opened their hearts and | :15:20. | :15:23. | |
homes to people affected, coming together and showing what a real | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
community looks like. The selfless actions of local people and the | :15:28. | :15:30. | |
courage and resilience of the survivors should give us all pause | :15:31. | :15:37. | |
for thought. Right now, our focus is on supporting the victims, finding | :15:38. | :15:40. | |
homes for those made homeless, making sure this country's housing | :15:41. | :15:45. | |
stock is as safe as possible. As we move forward, so we must also | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
recognise that for too long in our country and the governments of both | :15:51. | :15:54. | |
colours, we have not given enough attention to social housing and this | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
is a symptom of an even more fundamental issue. It should not | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
take a disaster of this kind for us to remember there are people in | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
Britain today living lives so far removed from those that many in | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
Westminster enjoy. In this tower a few miles away in the heart of our | :16:12. | :16:16. | |
great city, people live a fundamentally different life, they | :16:17. | :16:19. | |
do not feel the state works for them and they are mistrustful of it | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
therefore. Long after the TV cameras have gone and the world has moved | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
on, let the legacy of this awful tragedy be that we resolve never to | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
forget these people and instead to clear policies and thinking towards | :16:33. | :16:35. | |
making their lives better and bringing them into the political | :16:36. | :16:39. | |
process. It is our job as the government and I believe as a | :16:40. | :16:42. | |
parliament to show we are listening and that we will stand up for them. | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
That is what I am determined we should do and I commend this | :16:46. | :16:51. | |
statement to the house. The Leader of the Opposition, Mr Jeremy Corbyn. | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
Thank you. I acknowledge the Prime Minister's apology for the late | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
arrival of her statement to my office but I understand the reasons | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
for it. I met with the survivors at Grenfell Tower, as have a number of | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
colleagues in the House, and very inspiring following the NEET | :17:08. | :17:14. | |
volunteers -- inspiring volunteers. There is grief, anger and great | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
solidarity in that community. I hope the whole House will join with me in | :17:20. | :17:22. | |
commending the community spirit and public support which helped so many | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
traumatised families and the amazing response so many local people and | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
faith groups who rushed to the scene to give clothing, food, help, and to | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
provide an online restaurant for just about anybody who was helping | :17:38. | :17:42. | |
with the disaster relief. Our love, condolences and solidarity goes out | :17:43. | :17:46. | |
to those families again today and in what will be the very difficult days | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
and weeks ahead and for many, a lifetime reliving the trauma of that | :17:52. | :17:56. | |
dreadful night. They were, as the Prime Minister said yesterday, let | :17:57. | :18:01. | |
down, both in the immediate aftermath and so cruelly beforehand. | :18:02. | :18:04. | |
The public inquiry must establish the extent and by whom at least 79 | :18:05. | :18:13. | |
people are dead. It is both a tragedy and an outrage because every | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
single one of those deaths could and should have been avoided. The | :18:18. | :18:23. | |
Grenfell Tower residents themselves have raised concerns about the lack | :18:24. | :18:29. | |
of fire safety in the block. The action group had warned, and I | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
quote, it is a truly terrifying thought but the action group firmly | :18:34. | :18:39. | |
believes that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and | :18:40. | :18:43. | |
incompetence of our landlord, the Kensington and Chelsea tenant | :18:44. | :18:49. | |
management organisation. The Prime Minister said it is right that the | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
CEO of Kensington and Chelsea council has now resigned, it may be, | :18:55. | :18:59. | |
but why aren't the political leaders of Kensington and Chelsea taking | :19:00. | :19:02. | |
responsibility as well for this dreadful event? From Hillsborough to | :19:03. | :19:11. | |
the child sex abuse scandal, the Grenfell Tower, the pattern is | :19:12. | :19:15. | |
consistent. Working-class voices are ignored, concerns dismissed by those | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
in power. The Grenfell Tower residents and North Kensington | :19:19. | :19:23. | |
community deserve answers and thousands and thousands of people | :19:24. | :19:27. | |
living in tower blocks around the country need very urgent | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
reassurance. Our very brave firefighters must never have to deal | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
with such a horrific incident again. The Prime Minister is right when she | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
talks about the bravery of firefighters running into a burning | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
building, I have spoken to firefighters on many occasions, but | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
they are overstretched and they are traumatised, traumatised by dealing | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
with London Bridge, traumatised by Grenfell Tower, yet they carry on | :19:55. | :19:57. | |
doing it, overstretched and understaffed. We need to look at the | :19:58. | :20:00. | |
whole issue of the security of our Fire Service. Those of us, Mr | :20:01. | :20:07. | |
Speaker, with over 30 years experience in this House will have | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
struggled as constituency MPs under the pressure generated by an | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
incident of the scale, but as I said yesterday, my friend, the member for | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
Kensington, deserves praise for the tireless and diligent way she has | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
stood up for her constituents in the short time since she was thankfully | :20:26. | :20:32. | |
elected to the House. The public inquiry must address firstly the | :20:33. | :20:38. | |
appalling failure of the fire alarms at Grenfell Tower which meant many | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
residents reported they were only alerted to that fire by the screams | :20:42. | :20:47. | |
of neighbours and young Muslim men who had broken from prayers to | :20:48. | :20:54. | |
Ballon D'Or is to try to save lives. And -- to banging on doors to try to | :20:55. | :21:01. | |
save lives. And whether the advice given to stay in homes was correct | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
and what advice should be given to people living in the 4000 other | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
tower blocks living in this country in the event of a similar disaster. | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
Why sprinklers were not installed and whether they should be | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
retrofitted into old tower blocks. We need urgent answers to that | :21:18. | :21:25. | |
question. And whether the cladding was illegal, as the Chancellor has | :21:26. | :21:29. | |
suggested, and whether it should be banned entirely and what other | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
urgent changes should be made to building regulations. As the Prime | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
Minister indicated in her statement, this is obviously being urgently | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
addressed. We also need to address the fire prevention regulations | :21:43. | :21:45. | |
including the frequency and enforcement of fire safety checks | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
because it is my suspicion that many local authorities strapped for cash | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
after seven years of cuts have cut back on fire testing, cut back on | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
inspections because they simply have not got the staff to do it any more. | :21:59. | :22:05. | |
And whether the tenant management organisation is responsive enough to | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
their tenants and what greater powers tenants need in council, | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
social housing or the private sector to ensure their own safety. Whether | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
survivors and people evacuated from adjacent property were rehoused | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
promptly and adequately. The Prime Minister has addressed some of that. | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
I would be interested in her response to those that lived nearby | :22:28. | :22:32. | |
who themselves are equally traumatised by the event and of | :22:33. | :22:35. | |
course they should be rehoused within the borough and I hope there | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
will be no increase in their rent. The inquiry must also address the | :22:40. | :22:43. | |
resources available to the Fire and Rescue Service and whether response | :22:44. | :22:47. | |
times and capacity are adequate for all areas of the country. The number | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
of wards in which response time targets are not being met has | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
increased tenfold since 2011. Lessons must be learnt in the public | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
inquiry and they disaster that should never have happened must | :23:03. | :23:07. | |
never happen again. The Government must delay no longer and now | :23:08. | :23:11. | |
implement the recommendations of the 2013 inquiry report into the Lakanal | :23:12. | :23:20. | |
House fire. The inquiry must establish whether lives could have | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
been saved if those recommendations had been implemented in full and if | :23:24. | :23:28. | |
the recommendations of the all-party parliamentary group had been heeded | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
by government. Fire safety measures cannot be left to a postcode | :23:33. | :23:38. | |
lottery. I ask the Government to make available emergency funds as my | :23:39. | :23:45. | |
honourable friend raised yesterday, so that councils can carry out | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
immediate fire safety checks and install sprinklers and the timetable | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
for that would be made known to residents. There is a huge cost | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
involved in removing and re-cladding blocks found to have flammable | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
materials included in them. That money must be made available | :24:05. | :24:10. | |
immediately because it is a huge job of work and when the Prime Minister | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
says that those people in danger must be moved out of their | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
properties, this is a massive undertaking and a huge focus of | :24:20. | :24:23. | |
government resources will have to go into it. Will the Prime Minister | :24:24. | :24:27. | |
ensure the counselling and mental health services she referred to as | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
going on at the Westway sports centre now are available to all | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
residents at Grenfell Tower and of the remaining areas around there and | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
those who witnessed it on the Lancaster West estate including | :24:43. | :24:45. | |
those in the emergency services who have been through such trauma? It is | :24:46. | :24:53. | |
important in the days and weeks after the tragedy, but it has to go | :24:54. | :24:57. | |
on for a long time. This trauma does not end a few days afterwards. The | :24:58. | :25:03. | |
public inquiry must report as soon as possible and changes that can and | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
should have been made must now be made without delay. We have to be | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
aware that this has been a wake-up call to the whole country. The fire | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
at Grenfell Tower has taken the lives of people who should be with | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
us and alive and happy today. Residents of tower blocks all over | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
the country are concerned, worried and frightened for their own safety. | :25:27. | :25:31. | |
What we need is a step change in our attitude towards housing, to deal | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
with the permanent housing crisis that so many of our constituents and | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
residents face, and we need government intervention to support | :25:42. | :25:44. | |
local authorities bringing about safe solutions to the housing | :25:45. | :25:50. | |
crisis. So that this tragedy can at least change our attitudes and at | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
least saved, as a country, we are seriously going to address the | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
housing situation that so many people face, those people have died, | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
they will never come back. We have to learned those lessons to make | :26:03. | :26:07. | |
sure this tragedy is a turning point in our whole attitude and never | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
again do people die needlessly in a towering Inferno living in poverty | :26:12. | :26:19. | |
surrounded by a sea of prosperity. Thank you. May I first joined the | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
Leader of the Opposition in commending the work of his new | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
honourable friend, the member for Kensington? I am sure we can all | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
remember our first few days as a Member of Parliament and getting to | :26:33. | :26:35. | |
grips with it, to have to deal with a disaster and tragedy of this sort | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
in your constituency so early on, it must have been very difficult, but I | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
commend the honourable lady for the work she has done. The right | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
honourable gentleman raised a number of issues, many of which will be | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
matters for the inquiry to get to grips with. The responsibility in | :26:54. | :26:56. | |
relation to this issue, some of the issues around the advice given by | :26:57. | :27:03. | |
the Fire Service, all of these will be issues the inquiry I would expect | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
to address and as I said in my statement, we want to ensure we are | :27:09. | :27:12. | |
able to provide justice to the victims and survivors of this | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
terrible tragedy that has taken place. I do expect the chairman of | :27:17. | :27:24. | |
the inquiry or chair will produce an interim report so we see early | :27:25. | :27:27. | |
lessons. I think it is important as soon as we know there is anything | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
that needs to be learnt and dressed and acted on, that we know that as | :27:32. | :27:35. | |
soon as possible and we take action as soon as possible. | :27:36. | :27:40. | |
He referred to the issue of the coroner 's report in 2013. All of | :27:41. | :27:49. | |
the recommendations from that enquiry have been acted on. I think | :27:50. | :28:01. | |
it is in Portland to recognise that the Lakanal House coroner did not | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
propose any changes that have not been acted on. On the question of | :28:07. | :28:11. | |
the housing, we will be offering the housing in the borough or in | :28:12. | :28:18. | |
neighbouring boroughs. We have 164 properties that have already been | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
identified and are being looked at. A significant number of people have | :28:24. | :28:27. | |
already been assessed for their housing needs, and some have already | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
been offered housing. It is up to them as to whether they accept that | :28:32. | :28:36. | |
or if other properties need to be offered to them, but that process is | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
in hand, and I have set that three-week commitment that people | :28:41. | :28:46. | |
will be rehoused within three weeks. The tenant management organisation | :28:47. | :28:48. | |
which the Leader of the Opposition mentioned is an issue that has come | :28:49. | :28:53. | |
across loud and clear to me with my conversations with local residents. | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
One of the first acts of the new chief executive of Kensington and | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
Chelsea Council will be to look at any action that needs to be taken | :29:02. | :29:07. | |
there. And then the Leader of the Opposition referred to other | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
instances, Hillsborough, and the child sexual abuse enquiry. I was | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
pleased to be able to work with families from Hillsborough. They | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
should have had justice at a far earlier stage but the issues are | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
ongoing in terms of the Crown Prosecution Service looking at any | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
potential criminal charges. But we have been able to provide the | :29:29. | :29:35. | |
Hillsborough families with an opportunity for the truth, for them | :29:36. | :29:38. | |
to know the truth of what happened to their loved ones, and for the | :29:39. | :29:41. | |
public to know the truth of Hillsborough. I was also pleased to | :29:42. | :29:47. | |
set up the child sexual abuse enquiry because when I setup that | :29:48. | :29:51. | |
enquiry, I said for too long, people have made assumptions about certain | :29:52. | :29:55. | |
people in our society and how they should be treated, and those | :29:56. | :29:58. | |
assumptions are wrong. We need to find out why that has happened and | :29:59. | :30:07. | |
we need to change it. I am keen to accommodate the level of interest in | :30:08. | :30:14. | |
this subject. There is a premium upon brevity. Mr Iain Duncan Smith. | :30:15. | :30:23. | |
I welcome the Prime Minister's statement and also welcome the | :30:24. | :30:25. | |
actions she said she is going to take and the Government will take. | :30:26. | :30:31. | |
Our prayers go out to all those who suffer so terribly and will continue | :30:32. | :30:35. | |
to suffer in the days to come. I would like to ask her to add to the | :30:36. | :30:39. | |
public enquiry one further remit, and that is to look at whether or | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
not this whole process of retrofitting these old tower blocks | :30:45. | :30:49. | |
is in fact viable at all, and whether or not there is a better way | :30:50. | :30:54. | |
to both House and support tenants in these areas without the use of many | :30:55. | :30:59. | |
of these incredibly badly designed and very faulty tower blocks. And | :31:00. | :31:03. | |
could she ask the public enquiry to look carefully at whether or not it | :31:04. | :31:06. | |
is feasible now to bring some of these down and improve more family | :31:07. | :31:13. | |
friendly housing. I am grateful to my right honourable friend for his | :31:14. | :31:19. | |
remarks. He is suggesting that the enquiry should go a great deal | :31:20. | :31:23. | |
further than looking into this particular instance. I think what is | :31:24. | :31:30. | |
important, and we will ensure that the survivors and local residents | :31:31. | :31:33. | |
have an input into the terms of reference for this enquiry to ensure | :31:34. | :31:37. | |
that it is an enquiry they can have confidence in and that they know | :31:38. | :31:41. | |
will produce the justice that the need. I think we need to... I will | :31:42. | :31:49. | |
reflect on my right honourable friend's comments, and it will get | :31:50. | :31:56. | |
to the truth as we need it. Mr Ian Blackford. We welcome the | :31:57. | :32:04. | |
opportunity of the Prime Minister's statement this morning. We can all | :32:05. | :32:08. | |
reflect on the scene is that we walk up to last week, the horror of those | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
that were living in the tower or the pain that they must have gone | :32:14. | :32:19. | |
through. I want to also thank the members of the emergency services, | :32:20. | :32:27. | |
putting their lives on the line and we all a tremendous debt of | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
gratitude to them. Lee on these benches want to work with the | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
Government on these matters. Last week was a defining moment in the | :32:37. | :32:40. | |
evolution of our society. Can I say to the Prime Minister, respectfully, | :32:41. | :32:45. | |
she has apologised to the Leader of the Opposition for the short notice, | :32:46. | :32:49. | |
but it should also be to the third-party, and indeed all parties | :32:50. | :32:55. | |
represented in this House. The Prime Minister said in her statement that | :32:56. | :33:00. | |
the support on the ground was not good enough. Can I ask that through | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
the public enquiry, if there are recommendations that are made, | :33:05. | :33:07. | |
changes that have to be made, that the Government will accept those. | :33:08. | :33:14. | |
Secondly, on the ?5 million which has been put into the emergency | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
fund, if this is not sufficient, will be Government committed to | :33:19. | :33:24. | |
doing what it needs to to make sure that the appropriate resources are | :33:25. | :33:27. | |
available. I welcome the Prime Minister saying that the new housing | :33:28. | :33:32. | |
block that has been built will be made available for some of the | :33:33. | :33:34. | |
families. She talks about families moving in over the summer. Can she | :33:35. | :33:39. | |
be more specific about when this will happen? And can be make sure | :33:40. | :33:44. | |
that those families who do wish to live in the local area have that | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
commitment that housing will be made available on the basis that there | :33:49. | :33:51. | |
will be consultation, and that if the first offer is not acceptable, | :33:52. | :33:55. | |
alternatives can be put in place? Will be Prime Minister agree that | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
the public enquiry should include all the steps that were not taken in | :34:00. | :34:09. | |
the lead up to this incident? This has to include the bereaved | :34:10. | :34:12. | |
families, survivors as well as individuals, and organisations with | :34:13. | :34:19. | |
the residents' campaign. This needs to be about Parliament recognising | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
the significance of what has happened here. We can never be, as a | :34:25. | :34:29. | |
country, in this position again, and I welcome the remarks made by the | :34:30. | :34:33. | |
Prime Minister about social housing. Let's make sure that social housing | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
is something we invest in. I grew up in a social House, I remember fondly | :34:39. | :34:42. | |
my childhood, and I want people to have the same opportunities that we | :34:43. | :34:50. | |
can all be proud of. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and perhaps I could take | :34:51. | :34:53. | |
this opportunity in responding to the honourable gentleman to make it | :34:54. | :34:57. | |
clear that the testing facilities I mentioned earlier are opened to the | :34:58. | :35:00. | |
devolved administrations as well, so I would also coverage was in the | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
devolved administrations, anybody that has any buildings of this sort | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
to send samples in so they can be tested. He asked about the ?5 | :35:10. | :35:15. | |
million fund. It will be made available. Something like 700,000 | :35:16. | :35:18. | |
has already been paid out, and further monies will be paid out, but | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
we will be looking at that some overtime. Regarding the housing | :35:23. | :35:31. | |
development, the plans have been relaxed to enable work to take place | :35:32. | :35:34. | |
over a longer as ours so we work can be speeded up. They could be | :35:35. | :35:43. | |
available by the end of July, but that is dependent on the work being | :35:44. | :35:48. | |
completed. He asked about issues around the enquiry. It is important, | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
it is absolutely crucial, that the enquiry looks at how this happened | :35:54. | :35:56. | |
and part of that will be looking at what led up to the fire, and the | :35:57. | :36:02. | |
response to the fire, the immediate response, and the aftermath. We need | :36:03. | :36:07. | |
to know why this happened and who was responsible for it. But of | :36:08. | :36:10. | |
course, the judge who will be chairing the enquiry, will have a | :36:11. | :36:15. | |
role in determining how that enquiry is handled in terms of the witnesses | :36:16. | :36:20. | |
that he wishes to take and so forth. But as I said, I am very clear that | :36:21. | :36:27. | |
we need this enquiry to have -- people need to be able to have full | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
confidence in this enquiry and residents need to know that that is | :36:33. | :36:38. | |
will meet their needs. Will be Prime Minister encourage local authorities | :36:39. | :36:43. | |
to follow the lead set by Barnet Council with an immediate inspection | :36:44. | :36:50. | |
of their high-rise blocks? New safety measures to be guided by the | :36:51. | :36:54. | |
Fire Service and to include sprinklers fear these are needed. I | :36:55. | :37:00. | |
thank my right honourable friend to join out to the attention of the | :37:01. | :37:03. | |
House. I commend Barnet Council for the action they have taken. I hope | :37:04. | :37:10. | |
every local authority will undertake these tests as they have been asked | :37:11. | :37:16. | |
to do, and they will ensure the safety of the properties on which | :37:17. | :37:24. | |
they are accommodating people. I thank the Prime Minister for her | :37:25. | :37:27. | |
kind words, words which must be followed by deeds. Speaking on | :37:28. | :37:34. | |
behalf of a traumatised and frightened community, who have | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
little trust in authority, hourly reports suggest that there may have | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
been issues with fire safety audits and fire safety regulations were not | :37:45. | :37:47. | |
sufficiently robust. While we wait for the results of the enquiry, | :37:48. | :37:51. | |
which I hope will not be too long, will the Prime Minister commit to | :37:52. | :37:56. | |
adequate funds to enable emergency services, particularly the London | :37:57. | :37:59. | |
Fire Brigade, to be fully funded to carry out this work and reverse the | :38:00. | :38:05. | |
cuts to the Fire Services that have made their lives so difficult? These | :38:06. | :38:09. | |
people have quite literally our lives in their hands. In short, | :38:10. | :38:17. | |
clear as the funding? -- where is the funding? When I spoke to the | :38:18. | :38:24. | |
emergency services on my first visit to Kensington, I asked if they had | :38:25. | :38:27. | |
the resources they needed to do the job that they were doing. They | :38:28. | :38:32. | |
assured me that they did. Obviously the question of the... The question | :38:33. | :38:38. | |
of what the enquiry will look into in relation to this matter, they | :38:39. | :38:43. | |
will obviously have to look at as I have just said, had the whole | :38:44. | :38:46. | |
question of how this was possible that this could happen. The issue | :38:47. | :38:53. | |
around... I am sure that the enquiry will look at the tests taken place | :38:54. | :38:57. | |
on the tower and the adequacy of those tests and the adequacy of any | :38:58. | :39:02. | |
response to those issues. I want the enquiry to find out these things as | :39:03. | :39:07. | |
soon as because that could have invitations for other local | :39:08. | :39:09. | |
authorities and four other blocks around the country. I would like to | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
publicly congratulate the honourable lady on her election to the House, | :39:16. | :39:20. | |
albeit in the most grave and Tron attic circumstances, and the first | :39:21. | :39:28. | |
newly elected member to put a question in this chamber to be Prime | :39:29. | :39:30. | |
Minister. I congratulate the honourable lady on her contribution. | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
I want to thank the Prime Minister for her statement and the | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
reassurance she has provided, and to thank my own two bonus for providing | :39:41. | :39:48. | |
reassurance to residents -- boroughs. People will fear the | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
impatience of a proper public enquiry for the same people there | :39:55. | :40:01. | |
are likely to be people in the community affected. That scepticism | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
will be there for obvious reasons, so I want to ask the Prime Minister | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
of she will say a little more about the terms of reference for the | :40:09. | :40:11. | |
public enquiry and explain how local residents will have meaningful input | :40:12. | :40:22. | |
into it. I think it is important that it is an enquiry led by a | :40:23. | :40:27. | |
judge. The judge will be completely independent and it will be up to | :40:28. | :40:30. | |
them to determine which witnesses will be called and how they will | :40:31. | :40:34. | |
manage the enquiry. It is very important because we want people to | :40:35. | :40:39. | |
have the confidence of knowing that when the enquiry reports, it will be | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
bringing the truth out. We'll so want people to have the confidence | :40:44. | :40:49. | |
to know that actions that arise from the importations of the enquiry will | :40:50. | :40:54. | |
be taken. And those who are responsible will be held to account. | :40:55. | :40:58. | |
In relation to the terms of reference, as I have said, residents | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
will be involved. The process at the moment is looking at how it is | :41:04. | :41:08. | |
possible to do that. The judge will themselves want to reflect on how | :41:09. | :41:14. | |
they want to speak to residents, but the message I have had from | :41:15. | :41:19. | |
residents in bringing together a survivors group as a single voice is | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
a very important one and will be a helpful one in this regard. I thank | :41:24. | :41:29. | |
the Prime Minister for her statement. I think the news that she | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
has given the House today that the cladding was indeed combustible and | :41:35. | :41:40. | |
having been tested it showed it was combustible, is chilling news and | :41:41. | :41:44. | |
will be horrifying confirmation of what we all saw on our television | :41:45. | :41:50. | |
screens. It will be even more frightening... There are 58 tower | :41:51. | :41:54. | |
blocks in my constituency, thousands all around the country. Can I | :41:55. | :41:58. | |
suggest, as Prime Minister, that she gets a grip on this personally right | :41:59. | :42:04. | |
away, and that what she does is... I am just been to make a suggestion, | :42:05. | :42:12. | |
if I may. What she does is use Cobra to pull together and require all | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
local authorities within a certain time frame to check the cladding on | :42:16. | :42:21. | |
every one of their tower blocks? If she has done that, I look forward to | :42:22. | :42:27. | |
hearing the timescale. To call together all local authorities to | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
have a requirement on them to check every cladding on every tower block, | :42:33. | :42:37. | |
to give them the resources to do that inspection within a certain | :42:38. | :42:41. | |
timescale, to commit the resources to replace the cladding within a | :42:42. | :42:46. | |
certain timescale where others find it is combustible. I think that is | :42:47. | :42:52. | |
exactly what's Cobra should be done for, and it is not good enough to | :42:53. | :42:56. | |
just congratulate or encourage other councils, she must take a grip on it | :42:57. | :42:59. | |
personally. She said that the Lakanal House coroner's inquest | :43:00. | :43:06. | |
findings had been acted on, but I would tell her that they have not. | :43:07. | :43:13. | |
The coroner in 2013 in Lakanal House said that those deaths were | :43:14. | :43:16. | |
avoidable, there should have been sprinklers, there should have been | :43:17. | :43:20. | |
changing the fire instructions and there should be greater supervision | :43:21. | :43:24. | |
of contracts and fire inspection. She said it was an unimaginable | :43:25. | :43:28. | |
tragedy and that those debts should not have happened. They would not | :43:29. | :43:32. | |
have happened if the Government had acted on the Lakanal House coroner's | :43:33. | :43:35. | |
inquests rulings. Can I clarify what I said in my | :43:36. | :43:47. | |
statement? I said local authorities had been invited to send in samples | :43:48. | :43:51. | |
of cladding from similar buildings, some of those samples had been found | :43:52. | :43:56. | |
to be combustible. It was in relation to that testing are used | :43:57. | :44:00. | |
the term combustible. It is important I do that because we had | :44:01. | :44:05. | |
taken, as she suggested, the precautionary measure immediately of | :44:06. | :44:09. | |
asking local authorities, all local authorities, to identify blocks with | :44:10. | :44:15. | |
similar cladding, and to take measures together with local Fire | :44:16. | :44:19. | |
And Rescue Services to ensure people within those buildings were safe, | :44:20. | :44:24. | |
part of that process has been about the testing, and as I say, we stand | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
ready to continue to test for all local authorities who wish to send | :44:31. | :44:35. | |
in samples. The description of the coroner's report from Lakanal House, | :44:36. | :44:39. | |
the coroner did not, as I understand it, so there should be sprinklers | :44:40. | :44:43. | |
and every one of these types of properties, but what is important is | :44:44. | :44:49. | |
that... What underpinned what she was saying was the necessity of | :44:50. | :44:54. | |
making sure people living in similar blocks are able to feel reassured | :44:55. | :44:58. | |
about their safety. We have taken the steps, local authorities have | :44:59. | :45:02. | |
been working with Fire And Rescue Services, we are now going back | :45:03. | :45:07. | |
after the results of these tests of cladding are being given back to | :45:08. | :45:10. | |
local authorities, they are immediately acting to ensure the | :45:11. | :45:14. | |
safety of people. There are a number of steps we can undertake and we | :45:15. | :45:20. | |
expect them to do what is necessary. In recent years, London has seen | :45:21. | :45:25. | |
many high-quality high-rises being built, often financed with hot | :45:26. | :45:29. | |
foreign money and left empty for years, sometimes with the kitchens | :45:30. | :45:35. | |
covered clingfilm and pristine, and while we understand there are | :45:36. | :45:38. | |
occasions when a landlord will need to leave an apartment empty from | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
time to time, when brand-new properties are empty for many years, | :45:43. | :45:45. | |
does the Prime Minister think it is right to discuss with the Chancellor | :45:46. | :45:50. | |
changing the taxation regime so that as in New York City these people | :45:51. | :45:57. | |
face punitive taxation? He raises an interesting point and he has taken a | :45:58. | :46:01. | |
long interest in issues relating to housing in his time in this House. | :46:02. | :46:06. | |
Understand in fact the number of empty homes is at low levels at the | :46:07. | :46:10. | |
moment and of course we always look to see what we can do, what we want | :46:11. | :46:14. | |
to ensure its people are housed and properties are being used for the | :46:15. | :46:18. | |
purpose for which they have been built. The building regulations fit | :46:19. | :46:25. | |
for purpose, we should all be protected from fire. What assurance | :46:26. | :46:28. | |
can the Prime Minister give the review of building regulations, as | :46:29. | :46:34. | |
recommended by the Lakanal House coroner, will be done as urgently as | :46:35. | :46:38. | |
possible and that the building regulations advisory committee, | :46:39. | :46:42. | |
which historically has undertaken this work, be recalled as a matter | :46:43. | :46:47. | |
of urgency? This could be done in tandem with the public inquiry, it | :46:48. | :46:51. | |
does not have to wait until the end of it. The honourable gentleman, | :46:52. | :46:55. | |
obviously with his background, has a particular interest in these issues, | :46:56. | :47:01. | |
the coroner's recommendation was in relation not to changing the | :47:02. | :47:05. | |
regulations but the guidance that followed the regulations. That work | :47:06. | :47:08. | |
is indeed in hand. My understanding is the fire regulations have not | :47:09. | :47:14. | |
been changed since 2006. The public inquiry will want to look at this as | :47:15. | :47:20. | |
one of the issues they address. The amount of remedial work that may | :47:21. | :47:25. | |
need to be carried out on a limited timescale will possibly mean great | :47:26. | :47:31. | |
pressures fall on the workforce capable of carrying out this | :47:32. | :47:34. | |
remedial work, will the Prime Minister ensure her colleagues in | :47:35. | :47:38. | |
government make all the necessary funds and resources available if we | :47:39. | :47:42. | |
need to recruit or train further personnel to carry out the remedial | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
work on those blocks that failed the tests? My right honourable friend | :47:48. | :47:50. | |
raises a very important point, we need to ensure the voices are there | :47:51. | :47:55. | |
in every sense for the work that is necessary and we are looking at a | :47:56. | :47:58. | |
variety of ways to ensure that is indeed the case. All members of this | :47:59. | :48:09. | |
House across this House will have men toured unemployed and want to | :48:10. | :48:12. | |
see flourish young people. My wife principally and I employed and | :48:13. | :48:19. | |
encouraged and mentored a young woman called Khadija Saye who lost | :48:20. | :48:25. | |
her life with her mother on the 20th floor of Grenfell Tower. I spoke to | :48:26. | :48:30. | |
her father on Tuesday and he described with anguish, obviously, | :48:31. | :48:36. | |
losing his only daughter and we had a discussion about how he would cope | :48:37. | :48:39. | |
in going to the mortuary to visit his daughter in the state that | :48:40. | :48:46. | |
clearly she is in. On their behalf, and all of the people that died, I | :48:47. | :48:51. | |
urge the Prime Minister to say something more about the criminal | :48:52. | :48:56. | |
investigation that was announced last week. She has talked about the | :48:57. | :49:00. | |
public inquiry. But she understands that most people see this as a crime | :49:01. | :49:07. | |
and they know that rich and powerful organisations get away with crime. | :49:08. | :49:13. | |
Can she say what resources have been brought to bear for the Metropolitan | :49:14. | :49:18. | |
Police? How big are the teams? Why is it we have not had any commentary | :49:19. | :49:23. | |
about charges, arrests or the seizure of documents? Can I first of | :49:24. | :49:30. | |
all say how sorry I am to hear the right honourable gentleman has lost | :49:31. | :49:35. | |
somebody, a friend, in this terrible tragedy? There are obviously many | :49:36. | :49:38. | |
people in that position but it brings it home to this House and | :49:39. | :49:44. | |
right into this Chamber. He mentioned the issue of bereavement, | :49:45. | :49:48. | |
if I could mention there is a family bereavement centre now opened which | :49:49. | :49:54. | |
provides a suitable place in which people can be counselled in relation | :49:55. | :49:59. | |
to this matter. And there is a great deal of thought and care being | :50:00. | :50:04. | |
undertaken in relation to those families who will obviously be | :50:05. | :50:11. | |
wanting to see bodies of those who have died in the fire, this is a | :50:12. | :50:16. | |
very sensitive and difficult matter, as I am sure all members will | :50:17. | :50:20. | |
recognise, and every action is being taken to do this as sensitively and | :50:21. | :50:24. | |
thoughtfully as possible with the consideration of those who have lost | :50:25. | :50:29. | |
loved ones. In relation to the criminal investigation, it has been | :50:30. | :50:32. | |
opened by the Metropolitan Police. He invites me to comment on that in | :50:33. | :50:39. | |
a whole variety of ways. As he will know, it is an operational matter | :50:40. | :50:42. | |
for the Met Police, it is for them to determine any point at which they | :50:43. | :50:47. | |
have evidence which could lead to prosecutions or charges. We must let | :50:48. | :50:55. | |
the Met do their job, they are doing it carefully, properly, but I can | :50:56. | :50:59. | |
assure him and others that they will get to the truth and they will leave | :51:00. | :51:03. | |
no stone unturned and if there are charges and prosecutions to be made, | :51:04. | :51:13. | |
they will be. I attended a group, and understandably heated group | :51:14. | :51:17. | |
discussion with local residents in the shadow of Grenfell Tower | :51:18. | :51:20. | |
yesterday evening and there seemed to be confusion about the coroner's | :51:21. | :51:24. | |
recommendation is in terms of retrofitting of sprinklers. The | :51:25. | :51:27. | |
right honourable lady from Camberwell and Peckham is also | :51:28. | :51:30. | |
unclear on this. The coroner recommended we should encourage | :51:31. | :51:34. | |
housing providers to retrofit, despite the fact that the royal | :51:35. | :51:39. | |
borough of Kensington and Chelsea did not carry out this ?8.7 million | :51:40. | :51:47. | |
refurbishment -- did carry out this ?8.7 million refurbishment, they did | :51:48. | :51:51. | |
not retrofit sprinklers. Agreed that should be incentives for local | :51:52. | :51:56. | |
authorities to retrofit when they carry out these kinds of | :51:57. | :52:01. | |
refurbishment is? My honourable friend has rightly identified the | :52:02. | :52:02. | |
recommendation the coroner made which was that encouragement be | :52:03. | :52:07. | |
given to landlords to retrofit sprinklers. But I would just say the | :52:08. | :52:17. | |
members of this House that the situation is not as easy as perhaps | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
it would appear in that in not all cases will it be the case that the | :52:22. | :52:24. | |
retrofitting of sprinklers is actually going to be the thing that | :52:25. | :52:28. | |
makes the difference. There are a whole variety of reasons why that | :52:29. | :52:33. | |
may be the case. Some work has been undertaken on testing retrofitting | :52:34. | :52:37. | |
of sprinklers into a number of tower blocks in different parts of the | :52:38. | :52:42. | |
country. It is not just, as I say, a question of assuming you can go in | :52:43. | :52:45. | |
and do it and it will automatically work and do the job necessary. It is | :52:46. | :52:55. | |
an issue that has been looked at and continues to be looked at but it | :52:56. | :52:58. | |
needs to be done carefully to ensure any work that is done or is required | :52:59. | :53:01. | |
is genuinely going to operate in a wake to -- in a way to keep people | :53:02. | :53:05. | |
safe. Can I express my party's condolences to those affected by | :53:06. | :53:09. | |
this disaster? And our praise for the local community and emergency | :53:10. | :53:13. | |
services who stepped up in the immediate aftermath when | :53:14. | :53:16. | |
unfortunately the local and national authorities failed to do so. Can I | :53:17. | :53:20. | |
thank the Prime Minister for the statement today and also setting up | :53:21. | :53:23. | |
a public inquiry? Can the Prime Minister confirm when the work on | :53:24. | :53:27. | |
the guidance she referred to on building regulations, fire safety, | :53:28. | :53:28. | |
when it will be completed? Can she confirm that as much focus | :53:29. | :53:45. | |
will be put on private blocks, particularly those converted from | :53:46. | :53:46. | |
office blocks into residential blocks, as is being put on local | :53:47. | :53:48. | |
authority and housing association blocks, and can she confirm the | :53:49. | :53:51. | |
Government will immediately ban the use of combustible materials to | :53:52. | :53:53. | |
ensure this tragedy cannot happen again? On the last point, the | :53:54. | :53:59. | |
building regulations set out the materials compliant and materials | :54:00. | :54:03. | |
that are noncompliant. As we go through this process of looking at | :54:04. | :54:07. | |
materials used in various blocks, the question as to whether those | :54:08. | :54:10. | |
indeed comply with building regulations will be one of those | :54:11. | :54:14. | |
that needs to be looked at and that will be an issue that will be looked | :54:15. | :54:17. | |
at in relation to the public inquiry. The questions in relation | :54:18. | :54:24. | |
to the guidance of the building regulations, that work is ongoing | :54:25. | :54:31. | |
and I would expect imminent... It is not just a question of producing | :54:32. | :54:36. | |
something, there needs to be consultation with various | :54:37. | :54:38. | |
organisations. But what we need to ensure is when the Fire Services, | :54:39. | :54:45. | |
the police have done their investigation, that any action | :54:46. | :54:48. | |
necessary immediately as a result of the identification of the cause of | :54:49. | :54:53. | |
the fire and the reasons why the fire took such hold which is of | :54:54. | :54:57. | |
course the issue that is of particular concern, then any action | :54:58. | :55:00. | |
necessary is taken and it will be taken. My right honourable friend | :55:01. | :55:06. | |
might be interested to know I spent about three hours on Monday walking | :55:07. | :55:11. | |
around the Grenfell Tower area talking to people and I met | :55:12. | :55:14. | |
traumatised victims who did not want to go into the centres to get help | :55:15. | :55:19. | |
so clearly people need to go out to them. They were angry there was no | :55:20. | :55:24. | |
clear housing policy as to when and where they would be rehoused but | :55:25. | :55:28. | |
above all what I found was there was an enormous amount of work being | :55:29. | :55:31. | |
done by voluntary bodies, all sorts of bodies, but there is a clear lack | :55:32. | :55:35. | |
of coordination as to how these bodies are to move forward together. | :55:36. | :55:39. | |
Can I strongly support what my right honourable friend this morning that | :55:40. | :55:42. | |
we should establish a high-level government task force that is able | :55:43. | :55:51. | |
to go into a similar sort of disaster, they should be available | :55:52. | :55:54. | |
24 hours a day, 365 days a year, to take over from the immediate command | :55:55. | :55:57. | |
situation? Can I thank him for the work he has done and the feedback he | :55:58. | :56:02. | |
has given the ministers in relation to the conversations he had with | :56:03. | :56:06. | |
residents and victims on the ground? He is absolutely right, the outreach | :56:07. | :56:10. | |
workers, the point has been made that they need to go out to see | :56:11. | :56:14. | |
people to make sure people know what is available, rather than expecting | :56:15. | :56:18. | |
people to come into the centre. I can assure him we are looking | :56:19. | :56:22. | |
actively at what further resilience we can put into the system by | :56:23. | :56:26. | |
establishing the sort of task force we have spoken about that will be | :56:27. | :56:29. | |
available should... None of us want a circumstance like this to happen | :56:30. | :56:35. | |
again, but that we ensure there is full resilience there were disasters | :56:36. | :56:41. | |
take place. While many of the questions that those affected by | :56:42. | :56:45. | |
this disaster will want answers to will have to wait the outcome of the | :56:46. | :56:48. | |
inquiry, there is one factual question that surely it is possible | :56:49. | :56:52. | |
to answer now. Was clouding of the type used in Grenfell Tower complied | :56:53. | :57:01. | |
with the fire safety and building regulations applicable at the time | :57:02. | :57:05. | |
when the refurbishment was undertaken? Yes or know? -- was | :57:06. | :57:09. | |
clouding of the type used. My understanding was that Fire Service | :57:10. | :57:14. | |
and building research Establishment have been on the scene very early to | :57:15. | :57:18. | |
look at this issue and they have been identifying the cause of the | :57:19. | :57:22. | |
fire and any contributory factors to the fire. | :57:23. | :57:28. | |
They have been looking at the cause of the fire. They are testing the | :57:29. | :57:35. | |
cladding on the building and they expect to make the results of this | :57:36. | :57:40. | |
public in the next, I think, 48 hours. Can my right honourable | :57:41. | :57:49. | |
friend confirm that those firefighters who attended the | :57:50. | :57:52. | |
harrowing scene and their families, will get the psychological support | :57:53. | :57:56. | |
they may well need in the months and years ahead? And which she commit to | :57:57. | :57:59. | |
report back on how this will be set up for them? Yes. She has raised an | :58:00. | :58:06. | |
important issue, which the Leader of the Opposition also touched on. I | :58:07. | :58:11. | |
can confirm we are assuring that support and counselling will be | :58:12. | :58:16. | |
available, and there will be further updates to the House on the response | :58:17. | :58:23. | |
to Grenfell Tower. Further to the previous question, the cladding on | :58:24. | :58:31. | |
the tarot is a standard rod up that is available for sale. I don't | :58:32. | :58:34. | |
understand why the Prime Minister can't tell us whether that product | :58:35. | :58:38. | |
is compliant with building regulations for each tower this | :58:39. | :58:45. | |
high. Why can she not tell us the answer? Can she also confirm that | :58:46. | :58:50. | |
the advisory committee that should be looking at part B of the building | :58:51. | :58:55. | |
regulations on fire safety, has not yet actually met to look at how they | :58:56. | :59:03. | |
could be improved? I will add to the answer I gave to the right | :59:04. | :59:09. | |
honourable gentleman previously. I ask honourable members to remember | :59:10. | :59:12. | |
that that is a criminal investigation taking place in | :59:13. | :59:18. | |
relation to this matter. The testing of the cladding and materials used | :59:19. | :59:21. | |
is being undertaken and a statement will be made by the police and the | :59:22. | :59:27. | |
fire service within the next 48 hours. The London Resilience For has | :59:28. | :59:40. | |
a number of multi-agency plans for things like a mass shelter, masked | :59:41. | :59:46. | |
that allergies, mass casualties. Can we confirm whether these plans were | :59:47. | :59:53. | |
fully implemented and can we ensure that what lessons we learned through | :59:54. | :59:59. | |
the enquiry process are fed back into the Resilience Forum in London | :00:00. | :00:04. | |
and around the country to make sure those lessons are learned. I know | :00:05. | :00:17. | |
that he took a particular interest in matters relating to the fire | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
brigade. I can confirm we have already looked at this question of | :00:22. | :00:27. | |
resilience forums around the country. We will make sure any | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
lessons learned from Grenfell Tower are fed into the resilience teams. | :00:33. | :00:36. | |
Nielsen need to make sure that those teams around the country are as | :00:37. | :00:40. | |
resilient as the need to be in terms of providing the support, should any | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
disaster happened. We have seen this in relation to other disasters like | :00:47. | :00:50. | |
flooding. We need to make sure that they are operating as they should. | :00:51. | :00:59. | |
Can the Prime Minister please confirm when the judge will be | :01:00. | :01:02. | |
appointed, also with the comments made by my colleagues on this site, | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
I'd be grateful for your clarification as to whether you are | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
advising us that you don't know whether the cladding was building | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
regulation compliant, because the question that has been raised with | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
the Prime Minister is whether that material was compliant. Are you | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
advising that it needs to be tested before you give an answer to that | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
question? . As I said, the material is being tested, the results of the | :01:31. | :01:40. | |
test... The information... The information that the police is able | :01:41. | :01:46. | |
to give publicly, they blogger. This is part of the criminal | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
investigation. It is... Honourable members may shake their heads, but | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
they want to ensure that a further criminal charges to be brought, | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
those charges are indeed brought. And we must therefore ensure that we | :02:04. | :02:08. | |
give the police the opportunity to do the job that they undertake and | :02:09. | :02:12. | |
that nothing we do prejudices that's. I welcome the Prime | :02:13. | :02:21. | |
Minister's commitment to the publication of an early interim | :02:22. | :02:29. | |
report. After the Croydon tram crash, reports were published within | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
three months had identified the immediate cause of the crash, so | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
that action could be taken. Can she assure the house that a similar | :02:37. | :02:39. | |
approach will be taken in relation to this interim report? It was very | :02:40. | :02:46. | |
important that interim reports came out very quickly in relation to the | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
Croydon enquiry. I can confirm that I fully expect the judge to bring | :02:52. | :02:58. | |
out an interim report. I did not answer her first question about the | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
judge. I would expect within a few days to announce the name of the | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
judge, but be very much want to ensure that when the judge takes | :03:07. | :03:12. | |
charge of this enquiry, that people feel that they can have full | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
confidence in the enquiry, so we're taking steps to ensure that is the | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
case. Sympathies are not enough, but on behalf of my party, I offer them | :03:22. | :03:28. | |
till has suffered and express my gratitude to the emergency services | :03:29. | :03:30. | |
who should the dedication of heroes in unimaginable circumstances. | :03:31. | :03:39. | |
Penalising individuals as partial retribution. Those in government | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
should search their souls, and will the Prime Minister commit that in | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
future policy and resources, a disaster of this magnitude can never | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
happen again in a 21st-century first world country? Can I first | :03:53. | :04:03. | |
congratulate the honourable lady on her appointment as leader of Plaid | :04:04. | :04:16. | |
Cymru members in this house, and assure her that we will ensure this | :04:17. | :04:22. | |
never happens again. If the cladding is found to be illegal and we find | :04:23. | :04:28. | |
other towers have been similarly clad, should can we look into the | :04:29. | :04:38. | |
cladding on all the other towers? What I would say to my honourable | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
friend is that if illegal activity is taking place, then that's a | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
matter the police and part of the investigation the police will be | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
undertaking. It's a question of what we're doing now in relation to the | :04:54. | :04:59. | |
tower blocks, that's why when encouraging local authorities, | :05:00. | :05:01. | |
housing associations and private landlords to send in their material | :05:02. | :05:10. | |
protesting. As the leader of a party which is responsible for seven years | :05:11. | :05:21. | |
of austerity, which has cut 56% of the cash available to my local | :05:22. | :05:25. | |
authority in the last seven years, and the leader of a party that has | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
spent its time talking about regulation has a bad thing, is she | :05:29. | :05:35. | |
now going to apologise to the country for the states of local | :05:36. | :05:41. | |
governments, when the richest borough in London cannot afford, | :05:42. | :05:50. | |
couldn't cope with this emergency, because at the same time as they | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
were giving money back to their council taxpayers. I say to the | :05:56. | :06:06. | |
honourable lady, we are currently dealing with the aftermath of a | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
terrible disaster that has led to people losing their lives and other | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
losing their homes and everything they own. They are making sure we're | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
putting the steps in place. I recognise that the response | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
initially wasn't good enough. But I was stepped up response. That's why | :06:22. | :06:31. | |
didn't respond to the honourable member for Camberwell in Peckham. | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
That's why we have been putting extra resource into making sure the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
response is suitable. This will be an issue of looking at the | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
regulations. My understanding is these regulations are ones that were | :06:44. | :06:49. | |
established in 2006. We will be looking at the regulations, the | :06:50. | :06:51. | |
enquiry will look at the regulations. We'll look at how they | :06:52. | :06:56. | |
would apply. We'll look at the local authority and the issues raised | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
about the residents' complaints in advance of this disaster about the | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
tenant management organisation, and will get to the bottom of who was | :07:06. | :07:12. | |
responsible. As befits the occasion, these are thoughtful and solemn | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
exchanges, much I must advise the cutback house that progress has been | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
very slow. I'm keen to accommodate the extent of the interest, so I | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
appeal to colleagues to confine themselves to short, single sentence | :07:28. | :07:34. | |
questions, of which the honourable gentleman next is a notable | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
exponent. At the end of her compassionate and complaints of | :07:40. | :07:41. | |
statement, the Prime Minister said we had to think about people living | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
very different lives from ourselves. In opinion surveys go back over | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
decades, people never said they wanted to live in tower blocks. Can | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
we change public policy, so that tower blocks can become a thing of | :07:57. | :08:04. | |
the past? I am grateful for that question. There are many people who | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
do not wish to live in tower blocks, there are some people who are | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
perfectly comfortable living and. But what we have to look at is the | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
approach that is taken to social housing. I think that's one of the | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
lessons that comes this disaster. There will be an outbreak of sibling | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
rivalry, so I must now call Maria Eagle. The Prime Minister confirmed | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
in a statement that testing had discovered combustible cladding on | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
tower blocks in other parts of the country. Given that people living in | :08:38. | :08:43. | |
those tower blocks are going to fear more than others the consequences of | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
that discovery, what steps can she take to make sure that the landlords | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
have local authorities with those tower blocks exist, can swiftly deal | :08:53. | :09:00. | |
with the consequences of that discovery? That work is already | :09:01. | :09:08. | |
being undertaken. First of all, the testing work has been undertaken by | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
local authorities, housing associations and we encourage | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
private landlords to do it as well. We encourage everybody to send an | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
sample so we can test them in labs. Local authorities are immediately | :09:25. | :09:26. | |
informed if the material is combustible. They are then looking | :09:27. | :09:32. | |
with the local fire services at ensuring the safety of those | :09:33. | :09:36. | |
buildings. But will be done in a number of ways. But the is a | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
responsibility to make sure people are hoes safely and the government | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
is working with local authorities to make sure of that. I commend her | :09:43. | :09:51. | |
statement and the extraordinary degree of personal responsibility | :09:52. | :09:54. | |
she is taking. As she handed officials had a chance to look at | :09:55. | :10:03. | |
the report which has repeatedly recommended that the House of | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
Commons should have more of a role in the setting up of such enquiries? | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
Which he considered asking the house to establish a special select | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
committee very quickly to look at the terms of reference, to give a | :10:14. | :10:18. | |
pre-appointment hearing of the cheers of the enquiry and to set the | :10:19. | :10:21. | |
budget and timetable and make sure that this public enquiry does have | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
cross-party and public competence, in the way that so many public | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
enquiries have failed to do? He raises an important issue about | :10:33. | :10:37. | |
enquiries. We always look carefully at the reports of the advisory | :10:38. | :10:42. | |
committee and its predecessor. What's important in relation to this | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
enquiry, is that we did get it up and running with appropriate speed, | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
and the most important thing to me is that the residents affected will | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
have confidence in the enquiry. The important thing we need to do is to | :10:58. | :11:01. | |
make sure it is the residency can feel this enquiry is genuinely going | :11:02. | :11:08. | |
to get to the truth for them. We're still waiting to hear the Prime | :11:09. | :11:11. | |
Minister says she will underwrite the costs to local authorities of | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
inspection and urgent remedial action, given the cuts of up to a | :11:16. | :11:20. | |
third or a half of local authority budgets, and housing providers being | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
obliged to implement a rent cuts, which is squeezed their budgets. We | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
can have a postcode lottery in terms of safety provision, and that means | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
a commitment now from the government underwriter. We are providing the | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
testing facilities to the local authorities. We're working with them | :11:41. | :11:45. | |
to identify their needs and requirements and the response they | :11:46. | :11:48. | |
need to take and work with them to make sure they can respond in the | :11:49. | :11:55. | |
way that isn't necessarily. -- in the way that is necessary. | :11:56. | :12:02. | |
I can give that reassurance. Being close to friends and family but also | :12:03. | :12:10. | |
it is important for children to go to local schools. Mr Speaker, the | :12:11. | :12:13. | |
Prime Minister talked about looking forward to the future and those who | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
are far removed in lifestyles from those many in Westminster enjoy. | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
This is the reality in my constituency with overcrowding, two | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
families living in many homes, homelessness is the worst it has | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
been. Will she take a personal lead in taking plans forward to make sure | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
we deliver not just more housing but more really affordable housing for | :12:36. | :12:43. | |
the people who need it? We published proposals in relation to housing | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
before the general election. We want to ensure there are more affordable | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
homes, more houses being built and we have put half a billion into the | :12:51. | :12:58. | |
issue of dealing with homelessness. May I thank the Prime Minister for | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
her detailed and compassionate statement she has given us this | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
morning? I wonder if she would agree that although there are obviously | :13:07. | :13:11. | |
legitimate questions surrounding the Grenfell tragedy and rightly they | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
must be asked, we should exercise caution in attributing blame or | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
condemnation before we know the facts? As a former journalist, I | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
feel really strongly about this, scaremongering does not help | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
anybody. Getting to the bottom of things does. My honourable friend is | :13:28. | :13:34. | |
right. What is important is that the evidence is identified, the issue is | :13:35. | :13:40. | |
properly considered, everybody is able to give their views and their | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
evidence into the inquiry, and it is able to get to the truth and find | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
the result and find out what happened. The Fire Services and the | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
police are looking at the immediate cause of the fire. They will make | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
public any statements in relation to that they are able to. But the | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
inquiry will get to the truth and it is important we actually allow the | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
inquiry to identify responsibility. Leeds City Council have responded | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
swiftly, communicating with tenants and residents in all 116 blocks, | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
testing the cladding, none of which uses the same as what was used in | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
Kensington. But what we now need to know and following on from the | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
question from my honourable friend is that whatever recommendations are | :14:26. | :14:32. | |
made, on sprinklers, cladding, fire alarms and other remedial work, that | :14:33. | :14:35. | |
it will be central government providing the funds to ensure | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
tenants and residents in all of the thousands of tower blocks across the | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
country are safe? I thought I have responded on a number of questions | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
on this. The Government is working with local authorities. We will | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
ensure any essential work necessary in terms of remedial action for | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
safety of the blocks in relation to fire are taken. We will work with | :15:00. | :15:06. | |
local authorities to identify... There will be different | :15:07. | :15:08. | |
circumstances in different local authorities. We will ensure the work | :15:09. | :15:16. | |
can be undertaken. Thank you. Can I commend the Prime Minister for her | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
statement and for talking about the public inquiry? From my experience | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
of having had a public inquiry for two and a half years in my | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
constituency, it is vital it is thorough but that it is also as | :15:30. | :15:33. | |
swift as possible. Can I urge that whoever is appointed talks with | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
people like Sir Robert Francis who chaired the public inquiry in my | :15:40. | :15:42. | |
constituency to find out from his experience how that can best be | :15:43. | :15:49. | |
achieved? I will pass that on. I agree it is important it is done as | :15:50. | :15:54. | |
quickly as possible. Can I welcome the Prime Minister Pozner statement | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
the Government will play for legal representation for those affected by | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
the fire? -- the Prime Minister Pozner statement. Can she confirm | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
both victims and tenants groups will be given public funding for | :16:07. | :16:10. | |
independent and separate legal representation sufficient to enable | :16:11. | :16:14. | |
them to have a voice equal to that of local and national government and | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
the private management company? I ask this question because I | :16:20. | :16:23. | |
understand the tenants association were not allowed legal | :16:24. | :16:25. | |
representation in the Lakanal House fire inquiry. It is one of the | :16:26. | :16:33. | |
experiences that came out of the hills for inquiry, the importance of | :16:34. | :16:38. | |
ensuring that those affected had appropriate legal representation -- | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
the Hillsborough inquiry. The government funded that legal | :16:44. | :16:45. | |
representation to enable them to have the strength of what they | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
needed. As she will be aware, how the inquiry is conducted and the | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
witnesses who called under representations received will be... | :16:55. | :16:59. | |
The judge will decide how he wants to conduct that inquiry. For those | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
who require legal representation, we will be funding that by the | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
Government and I have not set any limits in relation to the types of | :17:08. | :17:10. | |
body or individuals who that would be. My right honourable friend was | :17:11. | :17:17. | |
absolutely right to highlight the incredible work of the brave | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
firefighters who attended the scene in the immediate aftermath of this | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
incident. But will she not only ensure they are properly recognised | :17:27. | :17:28. | |
for those Herculean efforts, but also any welfare needs arising are | :17:29. | :17:34. | |
met immediately? My honourable friend is absolutely right and | :17:35. | :17:39. | |
support is being given to the firefighters and police and others | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
who attended the scene to ensure... They also obviously potential | :17:45. | :17:47. | |
suffering from trauma as a result of what they have seen and that support | :17:48. | :17:52. | |
will be available. The Prime Minister in concluding her statement | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
said we should resolve never to forget these people. I would like to | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
ask her who she thinks forgot these people? Was that the formula delete | :18:01. | :18:07. | |
macro former Chancellor of the Exchequer who -- was it the former | :18:08. | :18:11. | |
charge of the stack? Former ministers who ignored pleas from | :18:12. | :18:17. | |
this House on fire safety? Or her who has seen other people in Britain | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
as these people rather than our friends and our neighbours? I think | :18:22. | :18:30. | |
the best response I can give is to refer her to the remarks I made when | :18:31. | :18:32. | |
I became Prime Minister on the steps I became Prime Minister on the steps | :18:33. | :18:42. | |
of Downing Street. I note in the Prime Minister Pozner statement all | :18:43. | :18:43. | |
social landlords have been instructed to carry out additional | :18:44. | :18:46. | |
fire safety checks but private landlords have been given advice | :18:47. | :18:53. | |
they can take up an option of the same facility. Can we ensure the | :18:54. | :18:59. | |
inquiry looks at social and private tower blocks? All citizens should be | :19:00. | :19:04. | |
equal when it comes to safety. The inquiry will focus on what happened | :19:05. | :19:07. | |
at Grenfell Tower but any implications that come out of it may | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
well affect others, not just social landlords but private landlords as | :19:13. | :19:19. | |
well. The Prime Minister has already been asked this question several | :19:20. | :19:22. | |
times and failed to answer, so I will give her the opportunity again. | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
Will the Government fully commit to meet the costs for proper and a | :19:28. | :19:31. | |
appropriate safety checks to fully fund the safety checks to retrofit | :19:32. | :19:36. | |
sprinklers and any other associated costs? I have answered it. I have | :19:37. | :19:45. | |
made it clear... I have made it clear that where work is necessary, | :19:46. | :19:48. | |
resources will be available to ensure that work can be undertaken. | :19:49. | :19:53. | |
It is for the Government to work with local authorities to ensure | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
that takes place. The families of the victims are entitled to the | :19:59. | :20:02. | |
truth, not speculation, not conjecture, the truth based on | :20:03. | :20:05. | |
evidence. My right honourable friend is right to set up the public | :20:06. | :20:09. | |
inquiry. But can we ensure an early date is agreed for publication of an | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
interim report on the facts of this case more than any other, justice | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
delayed is justice denied? I would expect and hope that the judge... | :20:18. | :20:22. | |
The individual will be independent, but I would expect that the judge | :20:23. | :20:26. | |
when appointed would indicate publicly when they would expect to | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
bring an interim report out so people will have that confidence. | :20:31. | :20:36. | |
Will the Prime Minister confirm the 68 flats to be allocated to the | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
victims of the Grenfell Tower fire are already designated as social | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
housing? What we need particularly in places where West London were | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
social housing is the only affordable housing for any is large | :20:50. | :20:56. | |
investment in housing and on these benches we will be very sceptical | :20:57. | :20:59. | |
about her conversion to social housing until she starts providing | :21:00. | :21:02. | |
that housing, not talking about it. The important part about the | :21:03. | :21:07. | |
development is that it is being ring fenced for people affected by | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
Grenfell Tower. That is the significance of this. It is | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
available and it will be available to leap for people who have been | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
displaced and lost their homes as a result of this tragedy -- available | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
to people. We have heard residents had spoken up about their fears but | :21:25. | :21:25. | |
not being listened to. Like so many not being listened to. Like so many | :21:26. | :21:31. | |
of our constituents on whose behalf we frequently write the | :21:32. | :21:33. | |
organisations asking for them to be given a fair hearing and despite the | :21:34. | :21:37. | |
dedication of many thousands of staff. Can I ask my right honourable | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
friend to look at the management systems and culture of organisations | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
that serve the public to work out what needs to change to make sure | :21:45. | :21:48. | |
every citizen of this country, whoever they are, wherever they are, | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
they are not just heard but listen to? She raises an important point in | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
relation to this issue. It is indeed and we need to ensure that | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
organisations who have a responsibility to the public do | :22:05. | :22:07. | |
indeed listen to the public, as my right honourable friend said. In | :22:08. | :22:13. | |
relation to looking ahead for any future disasters that should take | :22:14. | :22:16. | |
place, that is why I am looking at this concept of the independent | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
public advocate, somebody who can make sure that answers come, not | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
just that people get the support they need, but they get the answers | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
they need. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Many have paid tribute to the fire | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
rescue workers who put their lives in danger and the trauma they may | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
still feel from that, I would like as a surgeon of over 30 years to | :22:40. | :22:44. | |
highlight the NHS staff will also be traumatised because there is nothing | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
more horrific than dealing with the victims of bones. In the Autumn | :22:48. | :22:52. | |
Statement of 2015, the former Chancellor identified ?800 million | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
that should be taken from the new housing bonus scheme to make up the | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
shortfall in social care. Will the current Chancellor now reverse that? | :23:03. | :23:10. | |
We need to be shorter from now on. Prime Minister. The honourable lady | :23:11. | :23:18. | |
is right, as I said, I visited one of the hospitals which had taken in | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
victims and those NHS staff did a wonderful job as well. Of course, | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
what we have seen in London is NHS staff not only dealing with the | :23:28. | :23:31. | |
Grenfell Tower disaster but also with the terrorist attacks that have | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
taken place. As she said, it is those NHS staff who deserves | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
support, as do others in the emergency services who have been | :23:40. | :23:45. | |
referred to earlier. I speak as a representative of an area that has | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
no tower blocks but the overwhelming wish of my constituents is for us to | :23:50. | :23:53. | |
have timely implementation of any recommendations coming out of the | :23:54. | :23:56. | |
public inquiry in a nonpartisan manner. And recognising this may | :23:57. | :24:02. | |
come at a considerable cost to the public purse. Is the Prime Minister | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
aware that across the country that is the will of many people? Yes, it | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
is absolutely the case any recommendations that come out of the | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
public inquiry, they will be recommendations about keeping people | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
-- keeping people safe, and action will be taken. I am keen to | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
accommodate remaining interests, but it must be PC. -- it must be pithily | :24:24. | :24:35. | |
conveyed. In, two out, will that approach to the regulatory burden | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
now be abandoned with regard to fire safety? I would say to that | :24:39. | :24:43. | |
honourable lady that the issue of regulations, we have always taken | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
the issue of regulations in relation to safety very, very seriously | :24:48. | :24:52. | |
indeed. She might know that when I was Home Secretary, I was very clear | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
it is not the case all regulation is bad regulation, there is good | :24:57. | :24:59. | |
regulation which we need to ensure we get right and one of the issues | :25:00. | :25:03. | |
from the public inquiry will be asking that very question about fire | :25:04. | :25:07. | |
regulation. I congratulate her on her success this. She has agreed to | :25:08. | :25:17. | |
alter the textbook for colleagues. It seems almost inconceivable and | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
organisation spent ?8.7 million refurbishing a tower block and did | :25:22. | :25:26. | |
not include inflammable cladding and a sprinkler system. When we have the | :25:27. | :25:29. | |
outcome from the public inquiry, can she confirm there will be time made | :25:30. | :25:36. | |
available in the House for necessary legislation? I think it would be | :25:37. | :25:40. | |
appropriate for the House to have the opportunity to debate the | :25:41. | :25:43. | |
outcome of the inquiry and to look at the issues. We will have to wrap | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
up at ten past so we will do what we can before now and then. Residents | :25:49. | :25:55. | |
of Grenfell Tower warned the housing provider of the dangers and that it | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
would take a fire in a tower block for notice to be taken. Can I ask | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
the Prime Minister to look at the Localism Act which currently | :26:07. | :26:11. | |
requires residents to give it eight weeks before they can make a | :26:12. | :26:14. | |
complaint to the ombudsman for this to be taken up through their members | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
of Parliament? I am grateful for raising an issue which had not been | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
raised with me before. I will look at the Localism Act. There are | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
reasons why that period of time was put into the act. But she is right | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
the issue of the response of the tenant management organisation is | :26:33. | :26:35. | |
one of the ones that has been raised and it is one that needs to be | :26:36. | :26:39. | |
looked at as the inquiry looks at the reasons for this. Would the | :26:40. | :26:44. | |
results of the individual examinations to which she has | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
referred over this issue be produced as they become available or will | :26:50. | :26:53. | |
they all be subjected to the public examination and if it is the former, | :26:54. | :27:00. | |
could we have a timetable for that? I assume my honourable friend is | :27:01. | :27:02. | |
talking about the tests on the cladding question at yes? Regards | :27:03. | :27:10. | |
those tests, as soon as the results are available, and the tests can be | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
done within hours of the samples being received, they will | :27:15. | :27:19. | |
immediately be informed as to the results of those tests. A single | :27:20. | :27:26. | |
sentence and a short one. Fire sprinklers save lives, can I correct | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
the Prime Minister? The inquest recommended the department issue | :27:31. | :27:34. | |
guidance to all providers of high-rise blocks they should | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
retrofit sprinklers. Can I ask the Prime Minister, there are 213 blocks | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
with 10,000 households in Birmingham, will she agree now to | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
act on the advice that was given four years ago, retrofit sprinklers | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
and pay for it, the government to pay for it? | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
The recommendation was that we encourage the owners to consider the | :27:58. | :28:09. | |
retrofitting of sprinkler systems. Could I ask how will be enquiry also | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
look at the safety of tall buildings, in which people work, as | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
well as those in which people live? Yes, I think it's important that | :28:21. | :28:24. | |
this enquiry, when it looks at the implications of the fire, actually | :28:25. | :28:30. | |
assesses the those for all tall buildings, and indeed, we are | :28:31. | :28:32. | |
ensuring we are looking at other tall buildings that may have been | :28:33. | :28:38. | |
clad in a similar way, which may not be residential properties, but which | :28:39. | :28:45. | |
may be used for other purposes. Can the Prime Minister tell us why she | :28:46. | :28:49. | |
will not choose to show leadership and require all councils to retrofit | :28:50. | :28:55. | |
and provide the resources? I have made the point earlier that what we | :28:56. | :29:01. | |
need to ensure in any accommodation that is provided by local | :29:02. | :29:04. | |
authorities or housing associations, is that the accommodation is safe. | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
People are making assumptions about the work that needs to be done to | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
ensure that. What needs to happen on the ground is the local authority or | :29:12. | :29:17. | |
the housing association, the landlord working with the fire and | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
rescue service to make sure they can provide that service. When the Prime | :29:22. | :29:29. | |
Minister considers her suggestion, will she paid in mind the result of | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
the floods in Gloucestershire, which was a single leader responsible for | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
coordination of the groups and the media and information? We will | :29:42. | :29:44. | |
consider that and it is putting that in place here with John Barrett deal | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
as gold command, that has helped to move things forward and ensure the | :29:49. | :29:54. | |
response has improved. Where an independent safety Fire review of a | :29:55. | :29:59. | |
block of flats recommends retrofitting sprinklers or major | :30:00. | :30:06. | |
refurbishment, will the government fund it? His question seemed to talk | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
about any blocks of flats in the country, whether they be in private | :30:12. | :30:21. | |
or public sector ownership. What we are doing is making sure, first of | :30:22. | :30:28. | |
all, that the fire service and landlords ensure the safety, local | :30:29. | :30:34. | |
authorities and says what is needed for the safety of those properties, | :30:35. | :30:39. | |
and where action is needed and work is needed, the government will work | :30:40. | :30:41. | |
with those landlords to make sure that can be done. The Prime Minister | :30:42. | :30:48. | |
concluded by saying it was the government was my job to show it is | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
listening. Wilshere listen to the experts in the Fire Brigades Union | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
and reverse the cuts to the fire service and retrofit and close all | :30:57. | :31:02. | |
high-rise residential accommodation? As I've already said in relation to | :31:03. | :31:07. | |
the issue of sprinklers, some tests on retrofitting have been taken | :31:08. | :31:11. | |
across the country, but it's not as simple as saying if you retrofit | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
sprinklers, that's the one thing you need to do. There are a variety of | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
ways that action needs to be taken and what needs to happen is the | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
experts assess that for every block. The Communities Secretary has | :31:26. | :31:27. | |
demanded that the chief executive of Kensington resign. That is a matter | :31:28. | :31:38. | |
that will be decided by the appropriate group in the council. If | :31:39. | :31:43. | |
Bristol council comes at the conclusion that essential work is | :31:44. | :31:46. | |
needed on its tower blocks, will the government funded and if so, how | :31:47. | :31:52. | |
soon can we get the money? If, in conjunction with the Fire and rescue | :31:53. | :31:55. | |
service, the decision is made that work needs to be done on those tower | :31:56. | :32:01. | |
blocks, then there will then be a discussion between the authority and | :32:02. | :32:04. | |
the Department for Communities and Local Government on how that work | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
can be undertaken and the provision of resources for that work. I know | :32:10. | :32:13. | |
the Prime Minister believes politicians should be accountable | :32:14. | :32:16. | |
for their actions are in actions, so has she told the leader of | :32:17. | :32:20. | |
Kensington and Chelsea Council that he should go, because of the | :32:21. | :32:24. | |
appalling way this tragedy has been handled? I have had a conversation | :32:25. | :32:31. | |
with him. I told him he needed to make sure residents and victims and | :32:32. | :32:36. | |
survivors of this terrible disaster were being given the help and | :32:37. | :32:39. | |
support they needed. We have now put more help and support in to make | :32:40. | :32:42. | |
sure that is happening on the ground. In terms of paying more | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
attention to social housing going forward, will the Prime Minister | :32:49. | :32:54. | |
pledged to review the right to buy discount policy, which implies that | :32:55. | :33:02. | |
renting is not aspirational enough. If he looks at the housing white | :33:03. | :33:08. | |
paper reproduced earlier this year, he will see with very clear that we | :33:09. | :33:11. | |
expect this to be a diversity of ways in which people will be in | :33:12. | :33:16. | |
their homes. Some wish to own their homes, some wish to rent, some will | :33:17. | :33:21. | |
wish to have rented by our shared ownership. I want to see a diversity | :33:22. | :33:25. | |
that is its people and their circumstances. Fire stations in my | :33:26. | :33:33. | |
constituency are closing as a result of government cuts. The government | :33:34. | :33:36. | |
take action now and increase funding? What is happening across | :33:37. | :33:42. | |
the country is Fire services are ensuring they have the appropriate | :33:43. | :33:46. | |
response to a fire as they are dealing with. What was abortion here | :33:47. | :33:50. | |
in relation to the Grenfell Tower fire is it was search and rescue as | :33:51. | :33:58. | |
well as the London Fire Brigade, the resources were there they were able | :33:59. | :34:03. | |
to take the they took. Short sentence. Thank you. I've heard a | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
lot of abuse of the word encouragement today. In my | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
experience, the word encouragement is not necessarily useful one were | :34:13. | :34:17. | |
talking about something of this magnitude and a tragedy. Markets | :34:18. | :34:20. | |
stall work with encouragement, they work with regulation. Can I suggest, | :34:21. | :34:25. | |
there has been an explosion in a number of student properties built | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
in recent years, in the private sector. It's incumbent on the | :34:31. | :34:34. | |
government to make it mandatory that is not just the public sector but | :34:35. | :34:39. | |
also the private sector to use their facilities and test doggies | :34:40. | :34:45. | |
properties? There are regulations in place, fire safety and building | :34:46. | :34:52. | |
regulations. We are ensuring that facilities are available, we're | :34:53. | :34:58. | |
doing that free of charge. I say once again, local authorities and | :34:59. | :35:02. | |
housing associations are indeed setting examples in that encourage | :35:03. | :35:05. | |
them to do so and others to do so as well. The facilities were checking | :35:06. | :35:09. | |
are available to the devolved administrations as well. Can the | :35:10. | :35:14. | |
Prime Minister as show me she will work with the devolved | :35:15. | :35:18. | |
administrations on the lesson learning process, including with | :35:19. | :35:21. | |
their Welsh government which is announced an expert group to do just | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
that. We are already talking to the devolved administrations and we will | :35:26. | :35:33. | |
continue to do so. Landlords do not always know who occupies their | :35:34. | :35:37. | |
properties and the vulnerabilities of certain tenants. But the Prime | :35:38. | :35:41. | |
Minister 's ensure we investigate opportunities for data sharing | :35:42. | :35:46. | |
between local authorities and other groups? She has raised an | :35:47. | :35:51. | |
interesting issue about ensuring, and I think this is sometimes at the | :35:52. | :35:56. | |
heart of it, that people who are interacting with various government | :35:57. | :36:00. | |
departments, that the service the government gives them is focused on | :36:01. | :36:04. | |
their needs and identifies their particular needs. Consider the issue | :36:05. | :36:11. | |
she raises about data-sharing. According to Home Office figures, | :36:12. | :36:15. | |
the number of checks has fallen by 25%, the home fire safety checks, | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
since 2010. Will the Prime Minister now give the service the funding it | :36:20. | :36:27. | |
needs so that 100% of the checks are done? The Fire and Rescue service do | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
conduct checks, they do that in relation to residential buildings in | :36:32. | :36:42. | |
conjunction with the landlords. Some of the checks will be conducted by | :36:43. | :36:46. | |
landlords themselves. But the Prime Minister meet urgently with the Fire | :36:47. | :36:55. | |
and Rescue Service, because the advice given to the residents of | :36:56. | :36:58. | |
Grenfell Tower to stay in their flats may have been erroneous? They | :36:59. | :37:04. | |
have representation at the meetings have been shading in relation to the | :37:05. | :37:08. | |
response to Grenfell Tower. The issue of advice given to residents | :37:09. | :37:12. | |
has been raised with them. This is a matter that will meet consideration. | :37:13. | :37:21. | |
Can I ask that an assessment is carried out into the capacity of the | :37:22. | :37:24. | |
fire service to respond to incidents like this, particularly with | :37:25. | :37:32. | |
reference to appliances. The first service was able to respond to this, | :37:33. | :37:36. | |
but when the enquiry looks at this, I'd expect that to be something they | :37:37. | :37:43. | |
would consider. There are 32 tower blocks in Northern Ireland. When it | :37:44. | :37:47. | |
comes to lessons learned and suggestions and recommendations, | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
that the Northern Ireland Housing service will be made aware of those. | :37:53. | :37:57. | |
I hope that the Northern Ireland assembly and executive will be | :37:58. | :38:02. | |
formed, such as though in a position for us to give that information to | :38:03. | :38:11. | |
them. Thank you to colleagues and the Prime Minister for the | :38:12. | :38:16. | |
corporation. The Secretary of State for the Home Department, secretary | :38:17. | :38:21. | |
Amber Road. With permission, I'd like to make a statement about the | :38:22. | :38:26. | |
terrorist attacks we have seen since Parliament last sat. There has been | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
no summer like it. When we rose seven weeks ago, we left this house | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
in the wake of the worst terrorist attack our country had seen in over | :38:36. | :38:38. | |
a decade. With | :38:39. | :38:39. |