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Welcome to BBC Parliament's live coverage of the House of Commons.

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The Prime Minister will make a statement on the Grenfell Tower

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disaster in the few minutes. At least 79 people are thought to have

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been killed. The Home Secretary Amber Rudd will then make a

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statement on the recent terror attacks in Manchester, London

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Bridge, and Finsbury Park. Andrea Leadsom will then make a statement

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on the forthcoming business in the chamber. The main business today is

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the second day of the Queen's speech. Other manifesto proposals

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include a means testing the winter fuel allowance has been dropped. The

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vote on the Queen's speech is expected next Thursday at 5pm. There

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will be a round-up of the Day in both Houses of Parliament at 11pm

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tonight. All members wishing to take their

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seats please come to the table. I swear by all mighty God that I will

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be true allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen so help me God.

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I affirm that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty

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Queen Elizabeth, her heirs and successors, according to law. So

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help me God. Statement, the Prime Minister. With

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permission, Mr Speaker, I would like to make a statement on the disaster

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at Grenfell Tower. I would like to start by apologising to the Leader

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of the Opposition for the short notice he has had of this statement.

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I received an important update in the hour before making this

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statement which I felt was essential to bring to the attention of the

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House this morning. What happened in the early hours of last Wednesday

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morning was one of the most unimaginable tragedy is our country

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has seen in many years. As of this morning, 79 people have been

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confirmed dead or listed as missing presumed dead, and with work still

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ongoing to recover the bodies, sadly the death toll may rise further. We

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already know that many children are among the dead, and that in some

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cases, whole families have perished. Those who survived have lost loved

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ones, friends, neighbours, and in many cases, everything they own. It

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should never have happened. In a few moments I will say how we will

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discover why it did. That initial failure was then compounded by the

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fact that the support on the ground in the initial Iris was not good

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enough. As Prime Minister, I have apologised for that failure and

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taken responsibility for what we can to put it right. On my first visit

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to North Kensington, I met with the emergency services. These

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extraordinary men and women put their lives on the line to save

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others, and my first responsibility was to check they had all the

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resources they needed. I then visited Chelsea and Westminster

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Hospital, where I met some of the most seriously injured survivors. It

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was from that experience that I decided we had to have an emergency

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fund. I also met a group of residents at Kensington who I

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invited to come to Downing Street last weekend. I returned to

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Kensington last night to hear directly from them about the

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progress being made. What became clear very quickly is that the Royal

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Borough of Kensington and Chelsea could not cope, and it is right that

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the chief executive officer has now resigned. It is also why I set up

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the Grenfell Tower recovery task force, which I have been cheering

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personally. But this is not just about the steps we take in the first

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few weeks. -- which I have been chairing personally. Let me set out

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in detail the steps that we are taking to support the victims and

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rehouse those who have lost their homes. On Friday morning, the

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Government established a central command centre. On the half of the

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whole House, I want to thank the team for all the work they are

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doing. -- on behalf. I also want to pay to beat the fantastic response

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from London boroughs, as well as the Mayor of London, and leading figures

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from a number of councils outside London. I want to thank the army of

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volunteers who stepped in to provide shelter, sustenance, comfort and

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practical support, and I want to thank my Communities Secretary and

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the ministers for housing and planning, the Minister for London,

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and the Minister for policing and the Fire Service for the work they

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have been doing. There are currently around 600 people working on the

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site and then the immediate area who are working to provide support to

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the victims. A sports centre has been transformed into an emergency

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committee hub, staffed by 40 officials from six Government

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departments. They are ensuring that people have essential documents like

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driving licences and passports that are fundamental to carrying on with

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their lives. They have also been joined by experts from transport for

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London, citizens advice and the Red Cross, NHS mental health staff, and

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AGP. Anyone affected by the police can walk in and access the support

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they need, and so far there have been over 700 visits to the centre.

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The victim support unit has an emergency helpline which provides a

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single point of contact for victims who need to deal with multiple

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Government services in the way of the disaster. Each family whose home

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was destroyed has received a ?5,000 down payment from the emergency fund

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to buy food, clothes, and other essentials. We are working to ensure

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that everyone gets the money they are untitled two. Additional adults

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over 16 in these houses are being paid ?500 in cash. As of midday on

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Wednesday, we had made payments of over ?700,000. It is absolutely

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essential, Mr Speaker, that people understand they can keep the money

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they receive. These grants are not loans, and they will not be expected

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to repay a single penny. Neither are the waiving any legal rights as a

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result of accepting this financial help. The payments will be

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disregarded for means tested welfare payments, so nobody in receipt of

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benefits will see their benefits cut to the except emergency support. And

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I would like to reassure people that we will not use this tragic incident

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as a reason to carry out immigration checks on those involved or on those

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providing vital information to identify victims are assisting with

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the criminal investigation. We will make sure that all victims,

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irrespective of their immigration status, will be able to access the

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services they need including health care and accommodation. In terms of

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local schools, Kensington Aldridge Academy, the school next door to the

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tower, remains closed. Always pupils have already been accommodated at

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other schools in the area. The Department for Education is ensuring

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that children who are sitting there GCSEs receive an appropriate exam

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dispensation. Counselling has been offered to local schoolchildren and

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two teachers affected by the fire. Turning to the housing, 151 homes

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were destroyed in the fire, most in the tower itself, but also several

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in the immediate facility. All those who have lost their homes have been

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offered emergency Hotel accommodation and all will be

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offered the housing within three weeks. Already, 164 suitable

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properties have been identified, and they are being checked and made

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ready for people to move into. In the longer term, everyone who's home

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was destroyed will be guaranteed a new home on the same terms as those

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lost. 68 of those will be in a new low-rise block which has just been

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built. The developer has generously offered to turn over the entire

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block at cost price. Contractors are on site now working 20 47 to ensure

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that the first families can move in as soon as possible. -- are working

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24/7. Emergency hotel accommodation is available for everyone who does

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not want to maintain in a damaged property, and over 100 hotel rooms

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have already been provided. We are also putting in place practical

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support to help accelerate necessary repairs and yesterday drew on

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support from the army to assist with this. Some survivors have said they

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want to leave the local area, and we will of course support that and help

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them to find a home elsewhere, but I want to be absolutely clear, nobody

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is forced to move somewhere they do not want to go. And if any

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honourable member thinks they know of someone being treated in this

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way, they should contract -- contact my office in Downing Street with the

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details. We quickly decided there had to be an independent public

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enquiry as the scale of the disaster became clear. As I said to the House

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yesterday, it will be chaired by a judge to discover who was

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responsible and to provide justice for the victims and their families

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who suffered so terribly. All of those with an interest including

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victims and their families will be consulted and we will provide help

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for those affected. It became clear that they want support to come

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together as a group, to have their voices heard, and the Government

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will play its part in helping them to do so. For too long, residents

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have been overlooked and ignored, but we will ensure that they are

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involved in every step of this process. No stone will be left

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unturned in this enquiry, and for any guilty parties there will be

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nowhere to hide. I expect the chair of the enquiry will want to

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I know many others living in tall residential buildings will have

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concerns about safety after what happened at Grenfell Tower. All

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social landlords have been instructed to carry out additional

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safety checks on powered blocks and ensure appropriate measures are in

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place -- tower blocks. This is being done in cooperation with local Fire

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And Rescue Services. We have also taken steps to make private

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landlords aware. The House should be careful and speculating what caused

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the fire but as a precaution the Government has arranged to test

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cladding in all relevant tower blocks. Before I came to the

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Chamber, I was informed a number have come back as combustible. The

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relevant local authorities and Fire Services have been informed and as I

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speak they are taking all possible steps to ensure buildings are safe

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and to inform affected residents. Immediately after this statement,

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the Department for Communities and Local Government will contact any

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MPs Fuchs constituents are affected and the Communities Secretary will

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provide a further update later today -- whose constituents. We contest

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over 100 buildings a day and the results come in hours. I urge any

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landlord to send samples for testing as soon as possible. Any results

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will be communicated immediately to local authorities and local Fire

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Services. Landlords have a legal obligation to provide safe buildings

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and where they cannot do that, we expect alternative accommodation to

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be provided. We cannot and will not ask people to live in unsafe homes.

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It is clear the royal borough of Kensington and Chelsea were not able

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to cope with the scale of the tragedy so we will also develop a

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new strategy which could include a new task force that can help at

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times of emergency. We must learn some of the lessons of this and

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previous disasters were bereaved families have not had the support

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they need so we will introduce an independent public advocate for

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public disasters, a strong independent voice for victims acting

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on behalf of bereaved families and supporting them at public inquests

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and inquiries. Mr Speaker, in the past week, a lot of remarkable

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people have gone above and beyond to help deal with the fire and its

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aftermath. First and foremost, of course, the incredible men and women

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of the emergency services who did so much to save so many lives. I cannot

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imagine the kind of bravery it takes to run into a burning building and

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head upstairs when any normal person would head for the exit. We have

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also seen sterling work from people across the public sector, teachers,

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nurses, staff from local authorities, civil servants, doing

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all they can to help. We have seen incredible acts of generosity from

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private businesses and the people of this great city and country have

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stepped up to help in any way they can, donating money, clothes, toys

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and food, volunteering time and so much more. Above all, I want to pay

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tribute to the people of Kensington, they have opened their hearts and

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homes to people affected, coming together and showing what a real

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community looks like. The selfless actions of local people and the

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courage and resilience of the survivors should give us all pause

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for thought. Right now, our focus is on supporting the victims, finding

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homes for those made homeless, making sure this country's housing

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stock is as safe as possible. As we move forward, so we must also

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recognise that for too long in our country and the governments of both

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colours, we have not given enough attention to social housing and this

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is a symptom of an even more fundamental issue. It should not

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take a disaster of this kind for us to remember there are people in

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Britain today living lives so far removed from those that many in

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Westminster enjoy. In this tower a few miles away in the heart of our

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great city, people live a fundamentally different life, they

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do not feel the state works for them and they are mistrustful of it

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therefore. Long after the TV cameras have gone and the world has moved

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on, let the legacy of this awful tragedy be that we resolve never to

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forget these people and instead to clear policies and thinking towards

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making their lives better and bringing them into the political

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process. It is our job as the government and I believe as a

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parliament to show we are listening and that we will stand up for them.

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That is what I am determined we should do and I commend this

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statement to the house. The Leader of the Opposition, Mr Jeremy Corbyn.

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Thank you. I acknowledge the Prime Minister's apology for the late

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arrival of her statement to my office but I understand the reasons

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for it. I met with the survivors at Grenfell Tower, as have a number of

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colleagues in the House, and very inspiring following the NEET

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volunteers -- inspiring volunteers. There is grief, anger and great

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solidarity in that community. I hope the whole House will join with me in

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commending the community spirit and public support which helped so many

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traumatised families and the amazing response so many local people and

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faith groups who rushed to the scene to give clothing, food, help, and to

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provide an online restaurant for just about anybody who was helping

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with the disaster relief. Our love, condolences and solidarity goes out

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to those families again today and in what will be the very difficult days

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and weeks ahead and for many, a lifetime reliving the trauma of that

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dreadful night. They were, as the Prime Minister said yesterday, let

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down, both in the immediate aftermath and so cruelly beforehand.

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The public inquiry must establish the extent and by whom at least 79

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people are dead. It is both a tragedy and an outrage because every

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single one of those deaths could and should have been avoided. The

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Grenfell Tower residents themselves have raised concerns about the lack

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of fire safety in the block. The action group had warned, and I

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quote, it is a truly terrifying thought but the action group firmly

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believes that only a catastrophic event will expose the ineptitude and

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incompetence of our landlord, the Kensington and Chelsea tenant

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management organisation. The Prime Minister said it is right that the

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CEO of Kensington and Chelsea council has now resigned, it may be,

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but why aren't the political leaders of Kensington and Chelsea taking

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responsibility as well for this dreadful event? From Hillsborough to

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the child sex abuse scandal, the Grenfell Tower, the pattern is

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consistent. Working-class voices are ignored, concerns dismissed by those

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in power. The Grenfell Tower residents and North Kensington

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community deserve answers and thousands and thousands of people

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living in tower blocks around the country need very urgent

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reassurance. Our very brave firefighters must never have to deal

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with such a horrific incident again. The Prime Minister is right when she

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talks about the bravery of firefighters running into a burning

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building, I have spoken to firefighters on many occasions, but

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they are overstretched and they are traumatised, traumatised by dealing

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with London Bridge, traumatised by Grenfell Tower, yet they carry on

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doing it, overstretched and understaffed. We need to look at the

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whole issue of the security of our Fire Service. Those of us, Mr

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Speaker, with over 30 years experience in this House will have

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struggled as constituency MPs under the pressure generated by an

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incident of the scale, but as I said yesterday, my friend, the member for

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Kensington, deserves praise for the tireless and diligent way she has

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stood up for her constituents in the short time since she was thankfully

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elected to the House. The public inquiry must address firstly the

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appalling failure of the fire alarms at Grenfell Tower which meant many

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residents reported they were only alerted to that fire by the screams

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of neighbours and young Muslim men who had broken from prayers to

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Ballon D'Or is to try to save lives. And -- to banging on doors to try to

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save lives. And whether the advice given to stay in homes was correct

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and what advice should be given to people living in the 4000 other

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tower blocks living in this country in the event of a similar disaster.

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Why sprinklers were not installed and whether they should be

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retrofitted into old tower blocks. We need urgent answers to that

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question. And whether the cladding was illegal, as the Chancellor has

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suggested, and whether it should be banned entirely and what other

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urgent changes should be made to building regulations. As the Prime

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Minister indicated in her statement, this is obviously being urgently

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addressed. We also need to address the fire prevention regulations

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including the frequency and enforcement of fire safety checks

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because it is my suspicion that many local authorities strapped for cash

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after seven years of cuts have cut back on fire testing, cut back on

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inspections because they simply have not got the staff to do it any more.

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And whether the tenant management organisation is responsive enough to

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their tenants and what greater powers tenants need in council,

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social housing or the private sector to ensure their own safety. Whether

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survivors and people evacuated from adjacent property were rehoused

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promptly and adequately. The Prime Minister has addressed some of that.

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I would be interested in her response to those that lived nearby

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who themselves are equally traumatised by the event and of

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course they should be rehoused within the borough and I hope there

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will be no increase in their rent. The inquiry must also address the

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resources available to the Fire and Rescue Service and whether response

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times and capacity are adequate for all areas of the country. The number

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of wards in which response time targets are not being met has

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increased tenfold since 2011. Lessons must be learnt in the public

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inquiry and they disaster that should never have happened must

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never happen again. The Government must delay no longer and now

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implement the recommendations of the 2013 inquiry report into the Lakanal

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House fire. The inquiry must establish whether lives could have

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been saved if those recommendations had been implemented in full and if

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the recommendations of the all-party parliamentary group had been heeded

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by government. Fire safety measures cannot be left to a postcode

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lottery. I ask the Government to make available emergency funds as my

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honourable friend raised yesterday, so that councils can carry out

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immediate fire safety checks and install sprinklers and the timetable

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for that would be made known to residents. There is a huge cost

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involved in removing and re-cladding blocks found to have flammable

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materials included in them. That money must be made available

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immediately because it is a huge job of work and when the Prime Minister

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says that those people in danger must be moved out of their

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properties, this is a massive undertaking and a huge focus of

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government resources will have to go into it. Will the Prime Minister

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ensure the counselling and mental health services she referred to as

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going on at the Westway sports centre now are available to all

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residents at Grenfell Tower and of the remaining areas around there and

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those who witnessed it on the Lancaster West estate including

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those in the emergency services who have been through such trauma? It is

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important in the days and weeks after the tragedy, but it has to go

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on for a long time. This trauma does not end a few days afterwards. The

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public inquiry must report as soon as possible and changes that can and

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should have been made must now be made without delay. We have to be

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aware that this has been a wake-up call to the whole country. The fire

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at Grenfell Tower has taken the lives of people who should be with

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us and alive and happy today. Residents of tower blocks all over

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the country are concerned, worried and frightened for their own safety.

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What we need is a step change in our attitude towards housing, to deal

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with the permanent housing crisis that so many of our constituents and

:25:37.:25:41.

residents face, and we need government intervention to support

:25:42.:25:44.

local authorities bringing about safe solutions to the housing

:25:45.:25:50.

crisis. So that this tragedy can at least change our attitudes and at

:25:51.:25:54.

least saved, as a country, we are seriously going to address the

:25:55.:25:58.

housing situation that so many people face, those people have died,

:25:59.:26:02.

they will never come back. We have to learned those lessons to make

:26:03.:26:07.

sure this tragedy is a turning point in our whole attitude and never

:26:08.:26:11.

again do people die needlessly in a towering Inferno living in poverty

:26:12.:26:19.

surrounded by a sea of prosperity. Thank you. May I first joined the

:26:20.:26:24.

Leader of the Opposition in commending the work of his new

:26:25.:26:28.

honourable friend, the member for Kensington? I am sure we can all

:26:29.:26:32.

remember our first few days as a Member of Parliament and getting to

:26:33.:26:35.

grips with it, to have to deal with a disaster and tragedy of this sort

:26:36.:26:40.

in your constituency so early on, it must have been very difficult, but I

:26:41.:26:43.

commend the honourable lady for the work she has done. The right

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honourable gentleman raised a number of issues, many of which will be

:26:50.:26:53.

matters for the inquiry to get to grips with. The responsibility in

:26:54.:26:56.

relation to this issue, some of the issues around the advice given by

:26:57.:27:03.

the Fire Service, all of these will be issues the inquiry I would expect

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to address and as I said in my statement, we want to ensure we are

:27:09.:27:12.

able to provide justice to the victims and survivors of this

:27:13.:27:16.

terrible tragedy that has taken place. I do expect the chairman of

:27:17.:27:24.

the inquiry or chair will produce an interim report so we see early

:27:25.:27:27.

lessons. I think it is important as soon as we know there is anything

:27:28.:27:31.

that needs to be learnt and dressed and acted on, that we know that as

:27:32.:27:35.

soon as possible and we take action as soon as possible.

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He referred to the issue of the coroner 's report in 2013. All of

:27:41.:27:49.

the recommendations from that enquiry have been acted on. I think

:27:50.:28:01.

it is in Portland to recognise that the Lakanal House coroner did not

:28:02.:28:06.

propose any changes that have not been acted on. On the question of

:28:07.:28:11.

the housing, we will be offering the housing in the borough or in

:28:12.:28:18.

neighbouring boroughs. We have 164 properties that have already been

:28:19.:28:23.

identified and are being looked at. A significant number of people have

:28:24.:28:27.

already been assessed for their housing needs, and some have already

:28:28.:28:31.

been offered housing. It is up to them as to whether they accept that

:28:32.:28:36.

or if other properties need to be offered to them, but that process is

:28:37.:28:40.

in hand, and I have set that three-week commitment that people

:28:41.:28:46.

will be rehoused within three weeks. The tenant management organisation

:28:47.:28:48.

which the Leader of the Opposition mentioned is an issue that has come

:28:49.:28:53.

across loud and clear to me with my conversations with local residents.

:28:54.:28:57.

One of the first acts of the new chief executive of Kensington and

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Chelsea Council will be to look at any action that needs to be taken

:29:02.:29:07.

there. And then the Leader of the Opposition referred to other

:29:08.:29:11.

instances, Hillsborough, and the child sexual abuse enquiry. I was

:29:12.:29:16.

pleased to be able to work with families from Hillsborough. They

:29:17.:29:19.

should have had justice at a far earlier stage but the issues are

:29:20.:29:24.

ongoing in terms of the Crown Prosecution Service looking at any

:29:25.:29:28.

potential criminal charges. But we have been able to provide the

:29:29.:29:35.

Hillsborough families with an opportunity for the truth, for them

:29:36.:29:38.

to know the truth of what happened to their loved ones, and for the

:29:39.:29:41.

public to know the truth of Hillsborough. I was also pleased to

:29:42.:29:47.

set up the child sexual abuse enquiry because when I setup that

:29:48.:29:51.

enquiry, I said for too long, people have made assumptions about certain

:29:52.:29:55.

people in our society and how they should be treated, and those

:29:56.:29:58.

assumptions are wrong. We need to find out why that has happened and

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we need to change it. I am keen to accommodate the level of interest in

:30:08.:30:14.

this subject. There is a premium upon brevity. Mr Iain Duncan Smith.

:30:15.:30:23.

I welcome the Prime Minister's statement and also welcome the

:30:24.:30:25.

actions she said she is going to take and the Government will take.

:30:26.:30:31.

Our prayers go out to all those who suffer so terribly and will continue

:30:32.:30:35.

to suffer in the days to come. I would like to ask her to add to the

:30:36.:30:39.

public enquiry one further remit, and that is to look at whether or

:30:40.:30:44.

not this whole process of retrofitting these old tower blocks

:30:45.:30:49.

is in fact viable at all, and whether or not there is a better way

:30:50.:30:54.

to both House and support tenants in these areas without the use of many

:30:55.:30:59.

of these incredibly badly designed and very faulty tower blocks. And

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could she ask the public enquiry to look carefully at whether or not it

:31:04.:31:06.

is feasible now to bring some of these down and improve more family

:31:07.:31:13.

friendly housing. I am grateful to my right honourable friend for his

:31:14.:31:19.

remarks. He is suggesting that the enquiry should go a great deal

:31:20.:31:23.

further than looking into this particular instance. I think what is

:31:24.:31:30.

important, and we will ensure that the survivors and local residents

:31:31.:31:33.

have an input into the terms of reference for this enquiry to ensure

:31:34.:31:37.

that it is an enquiry they can have confidence in and that they know

:31:38.:31:41.

will produce the justice that the need. I think we need to... I will

:31:42.:31:49.

reflect on my right honourable friend's comments, and it will get

:31:50.:31:56.

to the truth as we need it. Mr Ian Blackford. We welcome the

:31:57.:32:04.

opportunity of the Prime Minister's statement this morning. We can all

:32:05.:32:08.

reflect on the scene is that we walk up to last week, the horror of those

:32:09.:32:13.

that were living in the tower or the pain that they must have gone

:32:14.:32:19.

through. I want to also thank the members of the emergency services,

:32:20.:32:27.

putting their lives on the line and we all a tremendous debt of

:32:28.:32:31.

gratitude to them. Lee on these benches want to work with the

:32:32.:32:36.

Government on these matters. Last week was a defining moment in the

:32:37.:32:40.

evolution of our society. Can I say to the Prime Minister, respectfully,

:32:41.:32:45.

she has apologised to the Leader of the Opposition for the short notice,

:32:46.:32:49.

but it should also be to the third-party, and indeed all parties

:32:50.:32:55.

represented in this House. The Prime Minister said in her statement that

:32:56.:33:00.

the support on the ground was not good enough. Can I ask that through

:33:01.:33:04.

the public enquiry, if there are recommendations that are made,

:33:05.:33:07.

changes that have to be made, that the Government will accept those.

:33:08.:33:14.

Secondly, on the ?5 million which has been put into the emergency

:33:15.:33:18.

fund, if this is not sufficient, will be Government committed to

:33:19.:33:24.

doing what it needs to to make sure that the appropriate resources are

:33:25.:33:27.

available. I welcome the Prime Minister saying that the new housing

:33:28.:33:32.

block that has been built will be made available for some of the

:33:33.:33:34.

families. She talks about families moving in over the summer. Can she

:33:35.:33:39.

be more specific about when this will happen? And can be make sure

:33:40.:33:44.

that those families who do wish to live in the local area have that

:33:45.:33:48.

commitment that housing will be made available on the basis that there

:33:49.:33:51.

will be consultation, and that if the first offer is not acceptable,

:33:52.:33:55.

alternatives can be put in place? Will be Prime Minister agree that

:33:56.:33:59.

the public enquiry should include all the steps that were not taken in

:34:00.:34:09.

the lead up to this incident? This has to include the bereaved

:34:10.:34:12.

families, survivors as well as individuals, and organisations with

:34:13.:34:19.

the residents' campaign. This needs to be about Parliament recognising

:34:20.:34:24.

the significance of what has happened here. We can never be, as a

:34:25.:34:29.

country, in this position again, and I welcome the remarks made by the

:34:30.:34:33.

Prime Minister about social housing. Let's make sure that social housing

:34:34.:34:38.

is something we invest in. I grew up in a social House, I remember fondly

:34:39.:34:42.

my childhood, and I want people to have the same opportunities that we

:34:43.:34:50.

can all be proud of. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and perhaps I could take

:34:51.:34:53.

this opportunity in responding to the honourable gentleman to make it

:34:54.:34:57.

clear that the testing facilities I mentioned earlier are opened to the

:34:58.:35:00.

devolved administrations as well, so I would also coverage was in the

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devolved administrations, anybody that has any buildings of this sort

:35:05.:35:09.

to send samples in so they can be tested. He asked about the ?5

:35:10.:35:15.

million fund. It will be made available. Something like 700,000

:35:16.:35:18.

has already been paid out, and further monies will be paid out, but

:35:19.:35:22.

we will be looking at that some overtime. Regarding the housing

:35:23.:35:31.

development, the plans have been relaxed to enable work to take place

:35:32.:35:34.

over a longer as ours so we work can be speeded up. They could be

:35:35.:35:43.

available by the end of July, but that is dependent on the work being

:35:44.:35:48.

completed. He asked about issues around the enquiry. It is important,

:35:49.:35:53.

it is absolutely crucial, that the enquiry looks at how this happened

:35:54.:35:56.

and part of that will be looking at what led up to the fire, and the

:35:57.:36:02.

response to the fire, the immediate response, and the aftermath. We need

:36:03.:36:07.

to know why this happened and who was responsible for it. But of

:36:08.:36:10.

course, the judge who will be chairing the enquiry, will have a

:36:11.:36:15.

role in determining how that enquiry is handled in terms of the witnesses

:36:16.:36:20.

that he wishes to take and so forth. But as I said, I am very clear that

:36:21.:36:27.

we need this enquiry to have -- people need to be able to have full

:36:28.:36:32.

confidence in this enquiry and residents need to know that that is

:36:33.:36:38.

will meet their needs. Will be Prime Minister encourage local authorities

:36:39.:36:43.

to follow the lead set by Barnet Council with an immediate inspection

:36:44.:36:50.

of their high-rise blocks? New safety measures to be guided by the

:36:51.:36:54.

Fire Service and to include sprinklers fear these are needed. I

:36:55.:37:00.

thank my right honourable friend to join out to the attention of the

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House. I commend Barnet Council for the action they have taken. I hope

:37:04.:37:10.

every local authority will undertake these tests as they have been asked

:37:11.:37:16.

to do, and they will ensure the safety of the properties on which

:37:17.:37:24.

they are accommodating people. I thank the Prime Minister for her

:37:25.:37:27.

kind words, words which must be followed by deeds. Speaking on

:37:28.:37:34.

behalf of a traumatised and frightened community, who have

:37:35.:37:39.

little trust in authority, hourly reports suggest that there may have

:37:40.:37:44.

been issues with fire safety audits and fire safety regulations were not

:37:45.:37:47.

sufficiently robust. While we wait for the results of the enquiry,

:37:48.:37:51.

which I hope will not be too long, will the Prime Minister commit to

:37:52.:37:56.

adequate funds to enable emergency services, particularly the London

:37:57.:37:59.

Fire Brigade, to be fully funded to carry out this work and reverse the

:38:00.:38:05.

cuts to the Fire Services that have made their lives so difficult? These

:38:06.:38:09.

people have quite literally our lives in their hands. In short,

:38:10.:38:17.

clear as the funding? -- where is the funding? When I spoke to the

:38:18.:38:24.

emergency services on my first visit to Kensington, I asked if they had

:38:25.:38:27.

the resources they needed to do the job that they were doing. They

:38:28.:38:32.

assured me that they did. Obviously the question of the... The question

:38:33.:38:38.

of what the enquiry will look into in relation to this matter, they

:38:39.:38:43.

will obviously have to look at as I have just said, had the whole

:38:44.:38:46.

question of how this was possible that this could happen. The issue

:38:47.:38:53.

around... I am sure that the enquiry will look at the tests taken place

:38:54.:38:57.

on the tower and the adequacy of those tests and the adequacy of any

:38:58.:39:02.

response to those issues. I want the enquiry to find out these things as

:39:03.:39:07.

soon as because that could have invitations for other local

:39:08.:39:09.

authorities and four other blocks around the country. I would like to

:39:10.:39:15.

publicly congratulate the honourable lady on her election to the House,

:39:16.:39:20.

albeit in the most grave and Tron attic circumstances, and the first

:39:21.:39:28.

newly elected member to put a question in this chamber to be Prime

:39:29.:39:30.

Minister. I congratulate the honourable lady on her contribution.

:39:31.:39:36.

I want to thank the Prime Minister for her statement and the

:39:37.:39:40.

reassurance she has provided, and to thank my own two bonus for providing

:39:41.:39:48.

reassurance to residents -- boroughs. People will fear the

:39:49.:39:54.

impatience of a proper public enquiry for the same people there

:39:55.:40:01.

are likely to be people in the community affected. That scepticism

:40:02.:40:04.

will be there for obvious reasons, so I want to ask the Prime Minister

:40:05.:40:08.

of she will say a little more about the terms of reference for the

:40:09.:40:11.

public enquiry and explain how local residents will have meaningful input

:40:12.:40:22.

into it. I think it is important that it is an enquiry led by a

:40:23.:40:27.

judge. The judge will be completely independent and it will be up to

:40:28.:40:30.

them to determine which witnesses will be called and how they will

:40:31.:40:34.

manage the enquiry. It is very important because we want people to

:40:35.:40:39.

have the confidence of knowing that when the enquiry reports, it will be

:40:40.:40:43.

bringing the truth out. We'll so want people to have the confidence

:40:44.:40:49.

to know that actions that arise from the importations of the enquiry will

:40:50.:40:54.

be taken. And those who are responsible will be held to account.

:40:55.:40:58.

In relation to the terms of reference, as I have said, residents

:40:59.:41:03.

will be involved. The process at the moment is looking at how it is

:41:04.:41:08.

possible to do that. The judge will themselves want to reflect on how

:41:09.:41:14.

they want to speak to residents, but the message I have had from

:41:15.:41:19.

residents in bringing together a survivors group as a single voice is

:41:20.:41:23.

a very important one and will be a helpful one in this regard. I thank

:41:24.:41:29.

the Prime Minister for her statement. I think the news that she

:41:30.:41:34.

has given the House today that the cladding was indeed combustible and

:41:35.:41:40.

having been tested it showed it was combustible, is chilling news and

:41:41.:41:44.

will be horrifying confirmation of what we all saw on our television

:41:45.:41:50.

screens. It will be even more frightening... There are 58 tower

:41:51.:41:54.

blocks in my constituency, thousands all around the country. Can I

:41:55.:41:58.

suggest, as Prime Minister, that she gets a grip on this personally right

:41:59.:42:04.

away, and that what she does is... I am just been to make a suggestion,

:42:05.:42:12.

if I may. What she does is use Cobra to pull together and require all

:42:13.:42:15.

local authorities within a certain time frame to check the cladding on

:42:16.:42:21.

every one of their tower blocks? If she has done that, I look forward to

:42:22.:42:27.

hearing the timescale. To call together all local authorities to

:42:28.:42:32.

have a requirement on them to check every cladding on every tower block,

:42:33.:42:37.

to give them the resources to do that inspection within a certain

:42:38.:42:41.

timescale, to commit the resources to replace the cladding within a

:42:42.:42:46.

certain timescale where others find it is combustible. I think that is

:42:47.:42:52.

exactly what's Cobra should be done for, and it is not good enough to

:42:53.:42:56.

just congratulate or encourage other councils, she must take a grip on it

:42:57.:42:59.

personally. She said that the Lakanal House coroner's inquest

:43:00.:43:06.

findings had been acted on, but I would tell her that they have not.

:43:07.:43:13.

The coroner in 2013 in Lakanal House said that those deaths were

:43:14.:43:16.

avoidable, there should have been sprinklers, there should have been

:43:17.:43:20.

changing the fire instructions and there should be greater supervision

:43:21.:43:24.

of contracts and fire inspection. She said it was an unimaginable

:43:25.:43:28.

tragedy and that those debts should not have happened. They would not

:43:29.:43:32.

have happened if the Government had acted on the Lakanal House coroner's

:43:33.:43:35.

inquests rulings. Can I clarify what I said in my

:43:36.:43:47.

statement? I said local authorities had been invited to send in samples

:43:48.:43:51.

of cladding from similar buildings, some of those samples had been found

:43:52.:43:56.

to be combustible. It was in relation to that testing are used

:43:57.:44:00.

the term combustible. It is important I do that because we had

:44:01.:44:05.

taken, as she suggested, the precautionary measure immediately of

:44:06.:44:09.

asking local authorities, all local authorities, to identify blocks with

:44:10.:44:15.

similar cladding, and to take measures together with local Fire

:44:16.:44:19.

And Rescue Services to ensure people within those buildings were safe,

:44:20.:44:24.

part of that process has been about the testing, and as I say, we stand

:44:25.:44:30.

ready to continue to test for all local authorities who wish to send

:44:31.:44:35.

in samples. The description of the coroner's report from Lakanal House,

:44:36.:44:39.

the coroner did not, as I understand it, so there should be sprinklers

:44:40.:44:43.

and every one of these types of properties, but what is important is

:44:44.:44:49.

that... What underpinned what she was saying was the necessity of

:44:50.:44:54.

making sure people living in similar blocks are able to feel reassured

:44:55.:44:58.

about their safety. We have taken the steps, local authorities have

:44:59.:45:02.

been working with Fire And Rescue Services, we are now going back

:45:03.:45:07.

after the results of these tests of cladding are being given back to

:45:08.:45:10.

local authorities, they are immediately acting to ensure the

:45:11.:45:14.

safety of people. There are a number of steps we can undertake and we

:45:15.:45:20.

expect them to do what is necessary. In recent years, London has seen

:45:21.:45:25.

many high-quality high-rises being built, often financed with hot

:45:26.:45:29.

foreign money and left empty for years, sometimes with the kitchens

:45:30.:45:35.

covered clingfilm and pristine, and while we understand there are

:45:36.:45:38.

occasions when a landlord will need to leave an apartment empty from

:45:39.:45:42.

time to time, when brand-new properties are empty for many years,

:45:43.:45:45.

does the Prime Minister think it is right to discuss with the Chancellor

:45:46.:45:50.

changing the taxation regime so that as in New York City these people

:45:51.:45:57.

face punitive taxation? He raises an interesting point and he has taken a

:45:58.:46:01.

long interest in issues relating to housing in his time in this House.

:46:02.:46:06.

Understand in fact the number of empty homes is at low levels at the

:46:07.:46:10.

moment and of course we always look to see what we can do, what we want

:46:11.:46:14.

to ensure its people are housed and properties are being used for the

:46:15.:46:18.

purpose for which they have been built. The building regulations fit

:46:19.:46:25.

for purpose, we should all be protected from fire. What assurance

:46:26.:46:28.

can the Prime Minister give the review of building regulations, as

:46:29.:46:34.

recommended by the Lakanal House coroner, will be done as urgently as

:46:35.:46:38.

possible and that the building regulations advisory committee,

:46:39.:46:42.

which historically has undertaken this work, be recalled as a matter

:46:43.:46:47.

of urgency? This could be done in tandem with the public inquiry, it

:46:48.:46:51.

does not have to wait until the end of it. The honourable gentleman,

:46:52.:46:55.

obviously with his background, has a particular interest in these issues,

:46:56.:47:01.

the coroner's recommendation was in relation not to changing the

:47:02.:47:05.

regulations but the guidance that followed the regulations. That work

:47:06.:47:08.

is indeed in hand. My understanding is the fire regulations have not

:47:09.:47:14.

been changed since 2006. The public inquiry will want to look at this as

:47:15.:47:20.

one of the issues they address. The amount of remedial work that may

:47:21.:47:25.

need to be carried out on a limited timescale will possibly mean great

:47:26.:47:31.

pressures fall on the workforce capable of carrying out this

:47:32.:47:34.

remedial work, will the Prime Minister ensure her colleagues in

:47:35.:47:38.

government make all the necessary funds and resources available if we

:47:39.:47:42.

need to recruit or train further personnel to carry out the remedial

:47:43.:47:47.

work on those blocks that failed the tests? My right honourable friend

:47:48.:47:50.

raises a very important point, we need to ensure the voices are there

:47:51.:47:55.

in every sense for the work that is necessary and we are looking at a

:47:56.:47:58.

variety of ways to ensure that is indeed the case. All members of this

:47:59.:48:09.

House across this House will have men toured unemployed and want to

:48:10.:48:12.

see flourish young people. My wife principally and I employed and

:48:13.:48:19.

encouraged and mentored a young woman called Khadija Saye who lost

:48:20.:48:25.

her life with her mother on the 20th floor of Grenfell Tower. I spoke to

:48:26.:48:30.

her father on Tuesday and he described with anguish, obviously,

:48:31.:48:36.

losing his only daughter and we had a discussion about how he would cope

:48:37.:48:39.

in going to the mortuary to visit his daughter in the state that

:48:40.:48:46.

clearly she is in. On their behalf, and all of the people that died, I

:48:47.:48:51.

urge the Prime Minister to say something more about the criminal

:48:52.:48:56.

investigation that was announced last week. She has talked about the

:48:57.:49:00.

public inquiry. But she understands that most people see this as a crime

:49:01.:49:07.

and they know that rich and powerful organisations get away with crime.

:49:08.:49:13.

Can she say what resources have been brought to bear for the Metropolitan

:49:14.:49:18.

Police? How big are the teams? Why is it we have not had any commentary

:49:19.:49:23.

about charges, arrests or the seizure of documents? Can I first of

:49:24.:49:30.

all say how sorry I am to hear the right honourable gentleman has lost

:49:31.:49:35.

somebody, a friend, in this terrible tragedy? There are obviously many

:49:36.:49:38.

people in that position but it brings it home to this House and

:49:39.:49:44.

right into this Chamber. He mentioned the issue of bereavement,

:49:45.:49:48.

if I could mention there is a family bereavement centre now opened which

:49:49.:49:54.

provides a suitable place in which people can be counselled in relation

:49:55.:49:59.

to this matter. And there is a great deal of thought and care being

:50:00.:50:04.

undertaken in relation to those families who will obviously be

:50:05.:50:11.

wanting to see bodies of those who have died in the fire, this is a

:50:12.:50:16.

very sensitive and difficult matter, as I am sure all members will

:50:17.:50:20.

recognise, and every action is being taken to do this as sensitively and

:50:21.:50:24.

thoughtfully as possible with the consideration of those who have lost

:50:25.:50:29.

loved ones. In relation to the criminal investigation, it has been

:50:30.:50:32.

opened by the Metropolitan Police. He invites me to comment on that in

:50:33.:50:39.

a whole variety of ways. As he will know, it is an operational matter

:50:40.:50:42.

for the Met Police, it is for them to determine any point at which they

:50:43.:50:47.

have evidence which could lead to prosecutions or charges. We must let

:50:48.:50:55.

the Met do their job, they are doing it carefully, properly, but I can

:50:56.:50:59.

assure him and others that they will get to the truth and they will leave

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no stone unturned and if there are charges and prosecutions to be made,

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they will be. I attended a group, and understandably heated group

:51:14.:51:17.

discussion with local residents in the shadow of Grenfell Tower

:51:18.:51:20.

yesterday evening and there seemed to be confusion about the coroner's

:51:21.:51:24.

recommendation is in terms of retrofitting of sprinklers. The

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right honourable lady from Camberwell and Peckham is also

:51:28.:51:30.

unclear on this. The coroner recommended we should encourage

:51:31.:51:34.

housing providers to retrofit, despite the fact that the royal

:51:35.:51:39.

borough of Kensington and Chelsea did not carry out this ?8.7 million

:51:40.:51:47.

refurbishment -- did carry out this ?8.7 million refurbishment, they did

:51:48.:51:51.

not retrofit sprinklers. Agreed that should be incentives for local

:51:52.:51:56.

authorities to retrofit when they carry out these kinds of

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refurbishment is? My honourable friend has rightly identified the

:52:02.:52:02.

recommendation the coroner made which was that encouragement be

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given to landlords to retrofit sprinklers. But I would just say the

:52:08.:52:17.

members of this House that the situation is not as easy as perhaps

:52:18.:52:21.

it would appear in that in not all cases will it be the case that the

:52:22.:52:24.

retrofitting of sprinklers is actually going to be the thing that

:52:25.:52:28.

makes the difference. There are a whole variety of reasons why that

:52:29.:52:33.

may be the case. Some work has been undertaken on testing retrofitting

:52:34.:52:37.

of sprinklers into a number of tower blocks in different parts of the

:52:38.:52:42.

country. It is not just, as I say, a question of assuming you can go in

:52:43.:52:45.

and do it and it will automatically work and do the job necessary. It is

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an issue that has been looked at and continues to be looked at but it

:52:56.:52:58.

needs to be done carefully to ensure any work that is done or is required

:52:59.:53:01.

is genuinely going to operate in a wake to -- in a way to keep people

:53:02.:53:05.

safe. Can I express my party's condolences to those affected by

:53:06.:53:09.

this disaster? And our praise for the local community and emergency

:53:10.:53:13.

services who stepped up in the immediate aftermath when

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unfortunately the local and national authorities failed to do so. Can I

:53:17.:53:20.

thank the Prime Minister for the statement today and also setting up

:53:21.:53:23.

a public inquiry? Can the Prime Minister confirm when the work on

:53:24.:53:27.

the guidance she referred to on building regulations, fire safety,

:53:28.:53:28.

when it will be completed? Can she confirm that as much focus

:53:29.:53:45.

will be put on private blocks, particularly those converted from

:53:46.:53:46.

office blocks into residential blocks, as is being put on local

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authority and housing association blocks, and can she confirm the

:53:49.:53:51.

Government will immediately ban the use of combustible materials to

:53:52.:53:53.

ensure this tragedy cannot happen again? On the last point, the

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building regulations set out the materials compliant and materials

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that are noncompliant. As we go through this process of looking at

:54:04.:54:07.

materials used in various blocks, the question as to whether those

:54:08.:54:10.

indeed comply with building regulations will be one of those

:54:11.:54:14.

that needs to be looked at and that will be an issue that will be looked

:54:15.:54:17.

at in relation to the public inquiry. The questions in relation

:54:18.:54:24.

to the guidance of the building regulations, that work is ongoing

:54:25.:54:31.

and I would expect imminent... It is not just a question of producing

:54:32.:54:36.

something, there needs to be consultation with various

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organisations. But what we need to ensure is when the Fire Services,

:54:39.:54:45.

the police have done their investigation, that any action

:54:46.:54:48.

necessary immediately as a result of the identification of the cause of

:54:49.:54:53.

the fire and the reasons why the fire took such hold which is of

:54:54.:54:57.

course the issue that is of particular concern, then any action

:54:58.:55:00.

necessary is taken and it will be taken. My right honourable friend

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might be interested to know I spent about three hours on Monday walking

:55:07.:55:11.

around the Grenfell Tower area talking to people and I met

:55:12.:55:14.

traumatised victims who did not want to go into the centres to get help

:55:15.:55:19.

so clearly people need to go out to them. They were angry there was no

:55:20.:55:24.

clear housing policy as to when and where they would be rehoused but

:55:25.:55:28.

above all what I found was there was an enormous amount of work being

:55:29.:55:31.

done by voluntary bodies, all sorts of bodies, but there is a clear lack

:55:32.:55:35.

of coordination as to how these bodies are to move forward together.

:55:36.:55:39.

Can I strongly support what my right honourable friend this morning that

:55:40.:55:42.

we should establish a high-level government task force that is able

:55:43.:55:51.

to go into a similar sort of disaster, they should be available

:55:52.:55:54.

24 hours a day, 365 days a year, to take over from the immediate command

:55:55.:55:57.

situation? Can I thank him for the work he has done and the feedback he

:55:58.:56:02.

has given the ministers in relation to the conversations he had with

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residents and victims on the ground? He is absolutely right, the outreach

:56:07.:56:10.

workers, the point has been made that they need to go out to see

:56:11.:56:14.

people to make sure people know what is available, rather than expecting

:56:15.:56:18.

people to come into the centre. I can assure him we are looking

:56:19.:56:22.

actively at what further resilience we can put into the system by

:56:23.:56:26.

establishing the sort of task force we have spoken about that will be

:56:27.:56:29.

available should... None of us want a circumstance like this to happen

:56:30.:56:35.

again, but that we ensure there is full resilience there were disasters

:56:36.:56:41.

take place. While many of the questions that those affected by

:56:42.:56:45.

this disaster will want answers to will have to wait the outcome of the

:56:46.:56:48.

inquiry, there is one factual question that surely it is possible

:56:49.:56:52.

to answer now. Was clouding of the type used in Grenfell Tower complied

:56:53.:57:01.

with the fire safety and building regulations applicable at the time

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when the refurbishment was undertaken? Yes or know? -- was

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clouding of the type used. My understanding was that Fire Service

:57:10.:57:14.

and building research Establishment have been on the scene very early to

:57:15.:57:18.

look at this issue and they have been identifying the cause of the

:57:19.:57:22.

fire and any contributory factors to the fire.

:57:23.:57:28.

They have been looking at the cause of the fire. They are testing the

:57:29.:57:35.

cladding on the building and they expect to make the results of this

:57:36.:57:40.

public in the next, I think, 48 hours. Can my right honourable

:57:41.:57:49.

friend confirm that those firefighters who attended the

:57:50.:57:52.

harrowing scene and their families, will get the psychological support

:57:53.:57:56.

they may well need in the months and years ahead? And which she commit to

:57:57.:57:59.

report back on how this will be set up for them? Yes. She has raised an

:58:00.:58:06.

important issue, which the Leader of the Opposition also touched on. I

:58:07.:58:11.

can confirm we are assuring that support and counselling will be

:58:12.:58:16.

available, and there will be further updates to the House on the response

:58:17.:58:23.

to Grenfell Tower. Further to the previous question, the cladding on

:58:24.:58:31.

the tarot is a standard rod up that is available for sale. I don't

:58:32.:58:34.

understand why the Prime Minister can't tell us whether that product

:58:35.:58:38.

is compliant with building regulations for each tower this

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high. Why can she not tell us the answer? Can she also confirm that

:58:46.:58:50.

the advisory committee that should be looking at part B of the building

:58:51.:58:55.

regulations on fire safety, has not yet actually met to look at how they

:58:56.:59:03.

could be improved? I will add to the answer I gave to the right

:59:04.:59:09.

honourable gentleman previously. I ask honourable members to remember

:59:10.:59:12.

that that is a criminal investigation taking place in

:59:13.:59:18.

relation to this matter. The testing of the cladding and materials used

:59:19.:59:21.

is being undertaken and a statement will be made by the police and the

:59:22.:59:27.

fire service within the next 48 hours. The London Resilience For has

:59:28.:59:40.

a number of multi-agency plans for things like a mass shelter, masked

:59:41.:59:46.

that allergies, mass casualties. Can we confirm whether these plans were

:59:47.:59:53.

fully implemented and can we ensure that what lessons we learned through

:59:54.:59:59.

the enquiry process are fed back into the Resilience Forum in London

:00:00.:00:04.

and around the country to make sure those lessons are learned. I know

:00:05.:00:17.

that he took a particular interest in matters relating to the fire

:00:18.:00:21.

brigade. I can confirm we have already looked at this question of

:00:22.:00:27.

resilience forums around the country. We will make sure any

:00:28.:00:32.

lessons learned from Grenfell Tower are fed into the resilience teams.

:00:33.:00:36.

Nielsen need to make sure that those teams around the country are as

:00:37.:00:40.

resilient as the need to be in terms of providing the support, should any

:00:41.:00:46.

disaster happened. We have seen this in relation to other disasters like

:00:47.:00:50.

flooding. We need to make sure that they are operating as they should.

:00:51.:00:59.

Can the Prime Minister please confirm when the judge will be

:01:00.:01:02.

appointed, also with the comments made by my colleagues on this site,

:01:03.:01:07.

I'd be grateful for your clarification as to whether you are

:01:08.:01:10.

advising us that you don't know whether the cladding was building

:01:11.:01:15.

regulation compliant, because the question that has been raised with

:01:16.:01:19.

the Prime Minister is whether that material was compliant. Are you

:01:20.:01:25.

advising that it needs to be tested before you give an answer to that

:01:26.:01:30.

question? . As I said, the material is being tested, the results of the

:01:31.:01:40.

test... The information... The information that the police is able

:01:41.:01:46.

to give publicly, they blogger. This is part of the criminal

:01:47.:01:51.

investigation. It is... Honourable members may shake their heads, but

:01:52.:01:57.

they want to ensure that a further criminal charges to be brought,

:01:58.:02:03.

those charges are indeed brought. And we must therefore ensure that we

:02:04.:02:08.

give the police the opportunity to do the job that they undertake and

:02:09.:02:12.

that nothing we do prejudices that's. I welcome the Prime

:02:13.:02:21.

Minister's commitment to the publication of an early interim

:02:22.:02:29.

report. After the Croydon tram crash, reports were published within

:02:30.:02:32.

three months had identified the immediate cause of the crash, so

:02:33.:02:36.

that action could be taken. Can she assure the house that a similar

:02:37.:02:39.

approach will be taken in relation to this interim report? It was very

:02:40.:02:46.

important that interim reports came out very quickly in relation to the

:02:47.:02:51.

Croydon enquiry. I can confirm that I fully expect the judge to bring

:02:52.:02:58.

out an interim report. I did not answer her first question about the

:02:59.:03:01.

judge. I would expect within a few days to announce the name of the

:03:02.:03:06.

judge, but be very much want to ensure that when the judge takes

:03:07.:03:12.

charge of this enquiry, that people feel that they can have full

:03:13.:03:16.

confidence in the enquiry, so we're taking steps to ensure that is the

:03:17.:03:21.

case. Sympathies are not enough, but on behalf of my party, I offer them

:03:22.:03:28.

till has suffered and express my gratitude to the emergency services

:03:29.:03:30.

who should the dedication of heroes in unimaginable circumstances.

:03:31.:03:39.

Penalising individuals as partial retribution. Those in government

:03:40.:03:42.

should search their souls, and will the Prime Minister commit that in

:03:43.:03:47.

future policy and resources, a disaster of this magnitude can never

:03:48.:03:52.

happen again in a 21st-century first world country? Can I first

:03:53.:04:03.

congratulate the honourable lady on her appointment as leader of Plaid

:04:04.:04:16.

Cymru members in this house, and assure her that we will ensure this

:04:17.:04:22.

never happens again. If the cladding is found to be illegal and we find

:04:23.:04:28.

other towers have been similarly clad, should can we look into the

:04:29.:04:38.

cladding on all the other towers? What I would say to my honourable

:04:39.:04:41.

friend is that if illegal activity is taking place, then that's a

:04:42.:04:48.

matter the police and part of the investigation the police will be

:04:49.:04:53.

undertaking. It's a question of what we're doing now in relation to the

:04:54.:04:59.

tower blocks, that's why when encouraging local authorities,

:05:00.:05:01.

housing associations and private landlords to send in their material

:05:02.:05:10.

protesting. As the leader of a party which is responsible for seven years

:05:11.:05:21.

of austerity, which has cut 56% of the cash available to my local

:05:22.:05:25.

authority in the last seven years, and the leader of a party that has

:05:26.:05:28.

spent its time talking about regulation has a bad thing, is she

:05:29.:05:35.

now going to apologise to the country for the states of local

:05:36.:05:41.

governments, when the richest borough in London cannot afford,

:05:42.:05:50.

couldn't cope with this emergency, because at the same time as they

:05:51.:05:55.

were giving money back to their council taxpayers. I say to the

:05:56.:06:06.

honourable lady, we are currently dealing with the aftermath of a

:06:07.:06:10.

terrible disaster that has led to people losing their lives and other

:06:11.:06:13.

losing their homes and everything they own. They are making sure we're

:06:14.:06:19.

putting the steps in place. I recognise that the response

:06:20.:06:21.

initially wasn't good enough. But I was stepped up response. That's why

:06:22.:06:31.

didn't respond to the honourable member for Camberwell in Peckham.

:06:32.:06:35.

That's why we have been putting extra resource into making sure the

:06:36.:06:39.

response is suitable. This will be an issue of looking at the

:06:40.:06:43.

regulations. My understanding is these regulations are ones that were

:06:44.:06:49.

established in 2006. We will be looking at the regulations, the

:06:50.:06:51.

enquiry will look at the regulations. We'll look at how they

:06:52.:06:56.

would apply. We'll look at the local authority and the issues raised

:06:57.:07:01.

about the residents' complaints in advance of this disaster about the

:07:02.:07:05.

tenant management organisation, and will get to the bottom of who was

:07:06.:07:12.

responsible. As befits the occasion, these are thoughtful and solemn

:07:13.:07:17.

exchanges, much I must advise the cutback house that progress has been

:07:18.:07:21.

very slow. I'm keen to accommodate the extent of the interest, so I

:07:22.:07:27.

appeal to colleagues to confine themselves to short, single sentence

:07:28.:07:34.

questions, of which the honourable gentleman next is a notable

:07:35.:07:39.

exponent. At the end of her compassionate and complaints of

:07:40.:07:41.

statement, the Prime Minister said we had to think about people living

:07:42.:07:48.

very different lives from ourselves. In opinion surveys go back over

:07:49.:07:52.

decades, people never said they wanted to live in tower blocks. Can

:07:53.:07:56.

we change public policy, so that tower blocks can become a thing of

:07:57.:08:04.

the past? I am grateful for that question. There are many people who

:08:05.:08:08.

do not wish to live in tower blocks, there are some people who are

:08:09.:08:11.

perfectly comfortable living and. But what we have to look at is the

:08:12.:08:16.

approach that is taken to social housing. I think that's one of the

:08:17.:08:22.

lessons that comes this disaster. There will be an outbreak of sibling

:08:23.:08:27.

rivalry, so I must now call Maria Eagle. The Prime Minister confirmed

:08:28.:08:34.

in a statement that testing had discovered combustible cladding on

:08:35.:08:37.

tower blocks in other parts of the country. Given that people living in

:08:38.:08:43.

those tower blocks are going to fear more than others the consequences of

:08:44.:08:47.

that discovery, what steps can she take to make sure that the landlords

:08:48.:08:52.

have local authorities with those tower blocks exist, can swiftly deal

:08:53.:09:00.

with the consequences of that discovery? That work is already

:09:01.:09:08.

being undertaken. First of all, the testing work has been undertaken by

:09:09.:09:12.

local authorities, housing associations and we encourage

:09:13.:09:18.

private landlords to do it as well. We encourage everybody to send an

:09:19.:09:24.

sample so we can test them in labs. Local authorities are immediately

:09:25.:09:26.

informed if the material is combustible. They are then looking

:09:27.:09:32.

with the local fire services at ensuring the safety of those

:09:33.:09:36.

buildings. But will be done in a number of ways. But the is a

:09:37.:09:39.

responsibility to make sure people are hoes safely and the government

:09:40.:09:42.

is working with local authorities to make sure of that. I commend her

:09:43.:09:51.

statement and the extraordinary degree of personal responsibility

:09:52.:09:54.

she is taking. As she handed officials had a chance to look at

:09:55.:10:03.

the report which has repeatedly recommended that the House of

:10:04.:10:06.

Commons should have more of a role in the setting up of such enquiries?

:10:07.:10:10.

Which he considered asking the house to establish a special select

:10:11.:10:13.

committee very quickly to look at the terms of reference, to give a

:10:14.:10:18.

pre-appointment hearing of the cheers of the enquiry and to set the

:10:19.:10:21.

budget and timetable and make sure that this public enquiry does have

:10:22.:10:25.

cross-party and public competence, in the way that so many public

:10:26.:10:32.

enquiries have failed to do? He raises an important issue about

:10:33.:10:37.

enquiries. We always look carefully at the reports of the advisory

:10:38.:10:42.

committee and its predecessor. What's important in relation to this

:10:43.:10:46.

enquiry, is that we did get it up and running with appropriate speed,

:10:47.:10:52.

and the most important thing to me is that the residents affected will

:10:53.:10:57.

have confidence in the enquiry. The important thing we need to do is to

:10:58.:11:01.

make sure it is the residency can feel this enquiry is genuinely going

:11:02.:11:08.

to get to the truth for them. We're still waiting to hear the Prime

:11:09.:11:11.

Minister says she will underwrite the costs to local authorities of

:11:12.:11:15.

inspection and urgent remedial action, given the cuts of up to a

:11:16.:11:20.

third or a half of local authority budgets, and housing providers being

:11:21.:11:25.

obliged to implement a rent cuts, which is squeezed their budgets. We

:11:26.:11:30.

can have a postcode lottery in terms of safety provision, and that means

:11:31.:11:34.

a commitment now from the government underwriter. We are providing the

:11:35.:11:40.

testing facilities to the local authorities. We're working with them

:11:41.:11:45.

to identify their needs and requirements and the response they

:11:46.:11:48.

need to take and work with them to make sure they can respond in the

:11:49.:11:55.

way that isn't necessarily. -- in the way that is necessary.

:11:56.:12:02.

I can give that reassurance. Being close to friends and family but also

:12:03.:12:10.

it is important for children to go to local schools. Mr Speaker, the

:12:11.:12:13.

Prime Minister talked about looking forward to the future and those who

:12:14.:12:18.

are far removed in lifestyles from those many in Westminster enjoy.

:12:19.:12:22.

This is the reality in my constituency with overcrowding, two

:12:23.:12:26.

families living in many homes, homelessness is the worst it has

:12:27.:12:30.

been. Will she take a personal lead in taking plans forward to make sure

:12:31.:12:35.

we deliver not just more housing but more really affordable housing for

:12:36.:12:43.

the people who need it? We published proposals in relation to housing

:12:44.:12:46.

before the general election. We want to ensure there are more affordable

:12:47.:12:50.

homes, more houses being built and we have put half a billion into the

:12:51.:12:58.

issue of dealing with homelessness. May I thank the Prime Minister for

:12:59.:13:02.

her detailed and compassionate statement she has given us this

:13:03.:13:06.

morning? I wonder if she would agree that although there are obviously

:13:07.:13:11.

legitimate questions surrounding the Grenfell tragedy and rightly they

:13:12.:13:16.

must be asked, we should exercise caution in attributing blame or

:13:17.:13:20.

condemnation before we know the facts? As a former journalist, I

:13:21.:13:24.

feel really strongly about this, scaremongering does not help

:13:25.:13:27.

anybody. Getting to the bottom of things does. My honourable friend is

:13:28.:13:34.

right. What is important is that the evidence is identified, the issue is

:13:35.:13:40.

properly considered, everybody is able to give their views and their

:13:41.:13:45.

evidence into the inquiry, and it is able to get to the truth and find

:13:46.:13:48.

the result and find out what happened. The Fire Services and the

:13:49.:13:52.

police are looking at the immediate cause of the fire. They will make

:13:53.:13:56.

public any statements in relation to that they are able to. But the

:13:57.:14:02.

inquiry will get to the truth and it is important we actually allow the

:14:03.:14:08.

inquiry to identify responsibility. Leeds City Council have responded

:14:09.:14:12.

swiftly, communicating with tenants and residents in all 116 blocks,

:14:13.:14:16.

testing the cladding, none of which uses the same as what was used in

:14:17.:14:21.

Kensington. But what we now need to know and following on from the

:14:22.:14:25.

question from my honourable friend is that whatever recommendations are

:14:26.:14:32.

made, on sprinklers, cladding, fire alarms and other remedial work, that

:14:33.:14:35.

it will be central government providing the funds to ensure

:14:36.:14:39.

tenants and residents in all of the thousands of tower blocks across the

:14:40.:14:45.

country are safe? I thought I have responded on a number of questions

:14:46.:14:48.

on this. The Government is working with local authorities. We will

:14:49.:14:53.

ensure any essential work necessary in terms of remedial action for

:14:54.:14:59.

safety of the blocks in relation to fire are taken. We will work with

:15:00.:15:06.

local authorities to identify... There will be different

:15:07.:15:08.

circumstances in different local authorities. We will ensure the work

:15:09.:15:16.

can be undertaken. Thank you. Can I commend the Prime Minister for her

:15:17.:15:21.

statement and for talking about the public inquiry? From my experience

:15:22.:15:25.

of having had a public inquiry for two and a half years in my

:15:26.:15:29.

constituency, it is vital it is thorough but that it is also as

:15:30.:15:33.

swift as possible. Can I urge that whoever is appointed talks with

:15:34.:15:39.

people like Sir Robert Francis who chaired the public inquiry in my

:15:40.:15:42.

constituency to find out from his experience how that can best be

:15:43.:15:49.

achieved? I will pass that on. I agree it is important it is done as

:15:50.:15:54.

quickly as possible. Can I welcome the Prime Minister Pozner statement

:15:55.:15:58.

the Government will play for legal representation for those affected by

:15:59.:16:03.

the fire? -- the Prime Minister Pozner statement. Can she confirm

:16:04.:16:06.

both victims and tenants groups will be given public funding for

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independent and separate legal representation sufficient to enable

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them to have a voice equal to that of local and national government and

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the private management company? I ask this question because I

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understand the tenants association were not allowed legal

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representation in the Lakanal House fire inquiry. It is one of the

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experiences that came out of the hills for inquiry, the importance of

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ensuring that those affected had appropriate legal representation --

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the Hillsborough inquiry. The government funded that legal

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representation to enable them to have the strength of what they

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needed. As she will be aware, how the inquiry is conducted and the

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witnesses who called under representations received will be...

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The judge will decide how he wants to conduct that inquiry. For those

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who require legal representation, we will be funding that by the

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Government and I have not set any limits in relation to the types of

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body or individuals who that would be. My right honourable friend was

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absolutely right to highlight the incredible work of the brave

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firefighters who attended the scene in the immediate aftermath of this

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incident. But will she not only ensure they are properly recognised

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for those Herculean efforts, but also any welfare needs arising are

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met immediately? My honourable friend is absolutely right and

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support is being given to the firefighters and police and others

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who attended the scene to ensure... They also obviously potential

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suffering from trauma as a result of what they have seen and that support

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will be available. The Prime Minister in concluding her statement

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said we should resolve never to forget these people. I would like to

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ask her who she thinks forgot these people? Was that the formula delete

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macro former Chancellor of the Exchequer who -- was it the former

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charge of the stack? Former ministers who ignored pleas from

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this House on fire safety? Or her who has seen other people in Britain

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as these people rather than our friends and our neighbours? I think

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the best response I can give is to refer her to the remarks I made when

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I became Prime Minister on the steps I became Prime Minister on the steps

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of Downing Street. I note in the Prime Minister Pozner statement all

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social landlords have been instructed to carry out additional

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fire safety checks but private landlords have been given advice

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they can take up an option of the same facility. Can we ensure the

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inquiry looks at social and private tower blocks? All citizens should be

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equal when it comes to safety. The inquiry will focus on what happened

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at Grenfell Tower but any implications that come out of it may

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well affect others, not just social landlords but private landlords as

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well. The Prime Minister has already been asked this question several

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times and failed to answer, so I will give her the opportunity again.

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Will the Government fully commit to meet the costs for proper and a

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appropriate safety checks to fully fund the safety checks to retrofit

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sprinklers and any other associated costs? I have answered it. I have

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made it clear... I have made it clear that where work is necessary,

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resources will be available to ensure that work can be undertaken.

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It is for the Government to work with local authorities to ensure

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that takes place. The families of the victims are entitled to the

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truth, not speculation, not conjecture, the truth based on

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evidence. My right honourable friend is right to set up the public

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inquiry. But can we ensure an early date is agreed for publication of an

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interim report on the facts of this case more than any other, justice

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delayed is justice denied? I would expect and hope that the judge...

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The individual will be independent, but I would expect that the judge

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when appointed would indicate publicly when they would expect to

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bring an interim report out so people will have that confidence.

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Will the Prime Minister confirm the 68 flats to be allocated to the

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victims of the Grenfell Tower fire are already designated as social

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housing? What we need particularly in places where West London were

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social housing is the only affordable housing for any is large

:20:50.:20:56.

investment in housing and on these benches we will be very sceptical

:20:57.:20:59.

about her conversion to social housing until she starts providing

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that housing, not talking about it. The important part about the

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development is that it is being ring fenced for people affected by

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Grenfell Tower. That is the significance of this. It is

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available and it will be available to leap for people who have been

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displaced and lost their homes as a result of this tragedy -- available

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to people. We have heard residents had spoken up about their fears but

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not being listened to. Like so many not being listened to. Like so many

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of our constituents on whose behalf we frequently write the

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organisations asking for them to be given a fair hearing and despite the

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dedication of many thousands of staff. Can I ask my right honourable

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friend to look at the management systems and culture of organisations

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that serve the public to work out what needs to change to make sure

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every citizen of this country, whoever they are, wherever they are,

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they are not just heard but listen to? She raises an important point in

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relation to this issue. It is indeed and we need to ensure that

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organisations who have a responsibility to the public do

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indeed listen to the public, as my right honourable friend said. In

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relation to looking ahead for any future disasters that should take

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place, that is why I am looking at this concept of the independent

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public advocate, somebody who can make sure that answers come, not

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just that people get the support they need, but they get the answers

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they need. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Many have paid tribute to the fire

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rescue workers who put their lives in danger and the trauma they may

:22:36.:22:39.

still feel from that, I would like as a surgeon of over 30 years to

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highlight the NHS staff will also be traumatised because there is nothing

:22:45.:22:47.

more horrific than dealing with the victims of bones. In the Autumn

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Statement of 2015, the former Chancellor identified ?800 million

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that should be taken from the new housing bonus scheme to make up the

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shortfall in social care. Will the current Chancellor now reverse that?

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We need to be shorter from now on. Prime Minister. The honourable lady

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is right, as I said, I visited one of the hospitals which had taken in

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victims and those NHS staff did a wonderful job as well. Of course,

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what we have seen in London is NHS staff not only dealing with the

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Grenfell Tower disaster but also with the terrorist attacks that have

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taken place. As she said, it is those NHS staff who deserves

:23:36.:23:39.

support, as do others in the emergency services who have been

:23:40.:23:45.

referred to earlier. I speak as a representative of an area that has

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no tower blocks but the overwhelming wish of my constituents is for us to

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have timely implementation of any recommendations coming out of the

:23:54.:23:56.

public inquiry in a nonpartisan manner. And recognising this may

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come at a considerable cost to the public purse. Is the Prime Minister

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aware that across the country that is the will of many people? Yes, it

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is absolutely the case any recommendations that come out of the

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public inquiry, they will be recommendations about keeping people

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-- keeping people safe, and action will be taken. I am keen to

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accommodate remaining interests, but it must be PC. -- it must be pithily

:24:24.:24:35.

conveyed. In, two out, will that approach to the regulatory burden

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now be abandoned with regard to fire safety? I would say to that

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honourable lady that the issue of regulations, we have always taken

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the issue of regulations in relation to safety very, very seriously

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indeed. She might know that when I was Home Secretary, I was very clear

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it is not the case all regulation is bad regulation, there is good

:24:57.:24:59.

regulation which we need to ensure we get right and one of the issues

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from the public inquiry will be asking that very question about fire

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regulation. I congratulate her on her success this. She has agreed to

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alter the textbook for colleagues. It seems almost inconceivable and

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organisation spent ?8.7 million refurbishing a tower block and did

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not include inflammable cladding and a sprinkler system. When we have the

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outcome from the public inquiry, can she confirm there will be time made

:25:30.:25:36.

available in the House for necessary legislation? I think it would be

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appropriate for the House to have the opportunity to debate the

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outcome of the inquiry and to look at the issues. We will have to wrap

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up at ten past so we will do what we can before now and then. Residents

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of Grenfell Tower warned the housing provider of the dangers and that it

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would take a fire in a tower block for notice to be taken. Can I ask

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the Prime Minister to look at the Localism Act which currently

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requires residents to give it eight weeks before they can make a

:26:12.:26:14.

complaint to the ombudsman for this to be taken up through their members

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of Parliament? I am grateful for raising an issue which had not been

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raised with me before. I will look at the Localism Act. There are

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reasons why that period of time was put into the act. But she is right

:26:28.:26:32.

the issue of the response of the tenant management organisation is

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one of the ones that has been raised and it is one that needs to be

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looked at as the inquiry looks at the reasons for this. Would the

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results of the individual examinations to which she has

:26:45.:26:49.

referred over this issue be produced as they become available or will

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they all be subjected to the public examination and if it is the former,

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could we have a timetable for that? I assume my honourable friend is

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talking about the tests on the cladding question at yes? Regards

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those tests, as soon as the results are available, and the tests can be

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done within hours of the samples being received, they will

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immediately be informed as to the results of those tests. A single

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sentence and a short one. Fire sprinklers save lives, can I correct

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the Prime Minister? The inquest recommended the department issue

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guidance to all providers of high-rise blocks they should

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retrofit sprinklers. Can I ask the Prime Minister, there are 213 blocks

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with 10,000 households in Birmingham, will she agree now to

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act on the advice that was given four years ago, retrofit sprinklers

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and pay for it, the government to pay for it?

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The recommendation was that we encourage the owners to consider the

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retrofitting of sprinkler systems. Could I ask how will be enquiry also

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look at the safety of tall buildings, in which people work, as

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well as those in which people live? Yes, I think it's important that

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this enquiry, when it looks at the implications of the fire, actually

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assesses the those for all tall buildings, and indeed, we are

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ensuring we are looking at other tall buildings that may have been

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clad in a similar way, which may not be residential properties, but which

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may be used for other purposes. Can the Prime Minister tell us why she

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will not choose to show leadership and require all councils to retrofit

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and provide the resources? I have made the point earlier that what we

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need to ensure in any accommodation that is provided by local

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authorities or housing associations, is that the accommodation is safe.

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People are making assumptions about the work that needs to be done to

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ensure that. What needs to happen on the ground is the local authority or

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the housing association, the landlord working with the fire and

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rescue service to make sure they can provide that service. When the Prime

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Minister considers her suggestion, will she paid in mind the result of

:29:30.:29:36.

the floods in Gloucestershire, which was a single leader responsible for

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coordination of the groups and the media and information? We will

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consider that and it is putting that in place here with John Barrett deal

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as gold command, that has helped to move things forward and ensure the

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response has improved. Where an independent safety Fire review of a

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block of flats recommends retrofitting sprinklers or major

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refurbishment, will the government fund it? His question seemed to talk

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about any blocks of flats in the country, whether they be in private

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or public sector ownership. What we are doing is making sure, first of

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all, that the fire service and landlords ensure the safety, local

:30:29.:30:34.

authorities and says what is needed for the safety of those properties,

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and where action is needed and work is needed, the government will work

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with those landlords to make sure that can be done. The Prime Minister

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concluded by saying it was the government was my job to show it is

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listening. Wilshere listen to the experts in the Fire Brigades Union

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and reverse the cuts to the fire service and retrofit and close all

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high-rise residential accommodation? As I've already said in relation to

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the issue of sprinklers, some tests on retrofitting have been taken

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across the country, but it's not as simple as saying if you retrofit

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sprinklers, that's the one thing you need to do. There are a variety of

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ways that action needs to be taken and what needs to happen is the

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experts assess that for every block. The Communities Secretary has

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demanded that the chief executive of Kensington resign. That is a matter

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that will be decided by the appropriate group in the council. If

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Bristol council comes at the conclusion that essential work is

:31:44.:31:46.

needed on its tower blocks, will the government funded and if so, how

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soon can we get the money? If, in conjunction with the Fire and rescue

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service, the decision is made that work needs to be done on those tower

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blocks, then there will then be a discussion between the authority and

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the Department for Communities and Local Government on how that work

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can be undertaken and the provision of resources for that work. I know

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the Prime Minister believes politicians should be accountable

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for their actions are in actions, so has she told the leader of

:32:17.:32:20.

Kensington and Chelsea Council that he should go, because of the

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appalling way this tragedy has been handled? I have had a conversation

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with him. I told him he needed to make sure residents and victims and

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survivors of this terrible disaster were being given the help and

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support they needed. We have now put more help and support in to make

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sure that is happening on the ground. In terms of paying more

:32:43.:32:48.

attention to social housing going forward, will the Prime Minister

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pledged to review the right to buy discount policy, which implies that

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renting is not aspirational enough. If he looks at the housing white

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paper reproduced earlier this year, he will see with very clear that we

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expect this to be a diversity of ways in which people will be in

:33:12.:33:16.

their homes. Some wish to own their homes, some wish to rent, some will

:33:17.:33:21.

wish to have rented by our shared ownership. I want to see a diversity

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that is its people and their circumstances. Fire stations in my

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constituency are closing as a result of government cuts. The government

:33:34.:33:36.

take action now and increase funding? What is happening across

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the country is Fire services are ensuring they have the appropriate

:33:43.:33:46.

response to a fire as they are dealing with. What was abortion here

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in relation to the Grenfell Tower fire is it was search and rescue as

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well as the London Fire Brigade, the resources were there they were able

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to take the they took. Short sentence. Thank you. I've heard a

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lot of abuse of the word encouragement today. In my

:34:09.:34:12.

experience, the word encouragement is not necessarily useful one were

:34:13.:34:17.

talking about something of this magnitude and a tragedy. Markets

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stall work with encouragement, they work with regulation. Can I suggest,

:34:21.:34:25.

there has been an explosion in a number of student properties built

:34:26.:34:30.

in recent years, in the private sector. It's incumbent on the

:34:31.:34:34.

government to make it mandatory that is not just the public sector but

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also the private sector to use their facilities and test doggies

:34:40.:34:45.

properties? There are regulations in place, fire safety and building

:34:46.:34:52.

regulations. We are ensuring that facilities are available, we're

:34:53.:34:58.

doing that free of charge. I say once again, local authorities and

:34:59.:35:02.

housing associations are indeed setting examples in that encourage

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them to do so and others to do so as well. The facilities were checking

:35:06.:35:09.

are available to the devolved administrations as well. Can the

:35:10.:35:14.

Prime Minister as show me she will work with the devolved

:35:15.:35:18.

administrations on the lesson learning process, including with

:35:19.:35:21.

their Welsh government which is announced an expert group to do just

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that. We are already talking to the devolved administrations and we will

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continue to do so. Landlords do not always know who occupies their

:35:34.:35:37.

properties and the vulnerabilities of certain tenants. But the Prime

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Minister 's ensure we investigate opportunities for data sharing

:35:42.:35:46.

between local authorities and other groups? She has raised an

:35:47.:35:51.

interesting issue about ensuring, and I think this is sometimes at the

:35:52.:35:56.

heart of it, that people who are interacting with various government

:35:57.:36:00.

departments, that the service the government gives them is focused on

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their needs and identifies their particular needs. Consider the issue

:36:05.:36:11.

she raises about data-sharing. According to Home Office figures,

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the number of checks has fallen by 25%, the home fire safety checks,

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since 2010. Will the Prime Minister now give the service the funding it

:36:20.:36:27.

needs so that 100% of the checks are done? The Fire and Rescue service do

:36:28.:36:31.

conduct checks, they do that in relation to residential buildings in

:36:32.:36:42.

conjunction with the landlords. Some of the checks will be conducted by

:36:43.:36:46.

landlords themselves. But the Prime Minister meet urgently with the Fire

:36:47.:36:55.

and Rescue Service, because the advice given to the residents of

:36:56.:36:58.

Grenfell Tower to stay in their flats may have been erroneous? They

:36:59.:37:04.

have representation at the meetings have been shading in relation to the

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response to Grenfell Tower. The issue of advice given to residents

:37:09.:37:12.

has been raised with them. This is a matter that will meet consideration.

:37:13.:37:21.

Can I ask that an assessment is carried out into the capacity of the

:37:22.:37:24.

fire service to respond to incidents like this, particularly with

:37:25.:37:32.

reference to appliances. The first service was able to respond to this,

:37:33.:37:36.

but when the enquiry looks at this, I'd expect that to be something they

:37:37.:37:43.

would consider. There are 32 tower blocks in Northern Ireland. When it

:37:44.:37:47.

comes to lessons learned and suggestions and recommendations,

:37:48.:37:52.

that the Northern Ireland Housing service will be made aware of those.

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I hope that the Northern Ireland assembly and executive will be

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formed, such as though in a position for us to give that information to

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them. Thank you to colleagues and the Prime Minister for the

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corporation. The Secretary of State for the Home Department, secretary

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Amber Road. With permission, I'd like to make a statement about the

:38:22.:38:26.

terrorist attacks we have seen since Parliament last sat. There has been

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no summer like it. When we rose seven weeks ago, we left this house

:38:32.:38:35.

in the wake of the worst terrorist attack our country had seen in over

:38:36.:38:38.

a decade. With

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