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Hello, good morning and welcome to BBC's permit coverage of the House.

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There will be questions taken at around half past 11, there will be a

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statement on Hurricane Irma that has caused devastation across the

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Caribbean. And then MPs will begin their first big debate on the

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European Union Withdrawl Bill. The Second Reading allows MPs to discuss

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the general principles of the bills which will repeal the EU act. And

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we'll set up current laws. The Bill contains provisions for the new law.

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It is controversial because the so-called Henry VIII powers

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effectively allow the government to decide on many issues without

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Parliament. There'll be a vote late on Monday evening. Join us for a

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round up at 11 o'clock tonight. First we have questions about the

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Brexit. On exit date, the agreement will

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cease to be. We need to think about how we withdraw from that EA

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agreement. I think the Secretary of State for his answer. But I'm afraid

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that article 127 of the ED EA EEA agreement. It states that we must

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give formal notice of at least one year. Can it be confirmed that such

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notice would have to be confirmed in order to leave the EEA tee and given

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the importance of this decision, that the decision to leave would be

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subject to a debate and a vote. Thank you Mr Speaker. There is an

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agreement that EEA the agreement will no longer work for the United

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Kingdom. We don't need to trigger an article to make sure that it takes

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effect. But we are going to look into it. Would you agree that

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continued yes, he is right, the simple truth

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is that one way to retain the EEA membership would be... We considered

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this. We thought maybe as an interim measure, but it seemed to be more

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complicated and more difficult. He has given a answer whether we need

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to have an EEA bid but will we have a vote for this letter? The heavily

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redacted letter wasn't from me. I'm not entirely sure to what he is

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referring to. But the answer is no. Would the Secretary of State agree

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with me that we've already had a vote and that was on June the 23rd

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last year. The British people decided to leave the Union. One of

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the things that we cannot all afford to is that we will now be able to do

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trade deals with a of countries throughout the world. EEA he makes

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exactly the right point. We are in a position be able to make trade deals

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once we leave the European Union. That will give us enormous benefit

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because as the European Union commission itself admits, 90% of

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global trade, world trade will be outside the EU, not within it.

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The Secretary of State set out his position on the 15th of August. He

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said that transitional agreement should be as close to what we have

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now. Two days before that it was said that Britons would leave the

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customs union and leave the single market. Both positions can't be

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right. Can he tell us what former transitional arrangements that

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permit is seeking to negotiate? EEA Well, I've just done a couple of

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days ago. I will read this for you. It was

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said on Sunday record the ambiguity. It was an approach that served as

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well on June the 8th. What was the ambiguity, and tell people you want

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to leave, tell people you want to remain. That is the ambiguity of the

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gentleman who has just been asking the question. In terms the

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transition it is very clear... The transition arrangements will meet

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the requirements. Three different requirements. One is to provide time

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for the British Government if need be to create new revelatory

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agencies. Time for companies to make their arrangements to deal with the

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regulations. And time for other countries to make arrangements. For

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example for customs, new custom proposals. That is why we need to be

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as close as we are to our current arrangement. It doesn't mean that we

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are leaving the customs... The material might be better located

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there. I asked the secretary has position and he stated my position.

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You are welcome to swap places anytime. Given the progress to date

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and knowing that we will go back to this sensor, what prospects do you

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genuinely believe of the bespoke transition agreements being

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inflicted by March 29 -- March 19 cannot? That's a very legitimate

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question. I believe that the benefits are twofold. They applied

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to other countries as they do to us. We are finding that the commission

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is open to discussion of transition. We've only raised it briefly at each

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of the last two meetings because it doesn't fit within the four groups

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of negotiations. I think there is a very good prospect. Mr Speaker, the

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UK already goes beyond the minimum standards and a number of employment

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areas. We have a long history of environment protection. We are

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committed to safeguarding and protecting both. The EU Withdrawl

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Bill will ensure that EU's worker rights and environment protections

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will continue to be in place. And will enable those laws to enable the

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function effectively. It will be than for parliament and the involved

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legislatures to make any future changes to EU derived law. Mr

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Speaker, Britain already has one of the most competition friendly

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economies in the world. But some people want to use exit to dismantle

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workers' rights. And a road workers' rights. And a road

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environmental protections. The EU... The EU brought us order. There is a

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huge pressure of time. We have to get done the order cleared the EU

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brought us from -- Prensa Leave can you assure that their rights

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will not be eroded? I am happy to a real sure him. I can reassert the

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government's commitment to not roll back workers' rights. It will be for

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Parliament in future to determine future role.

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May I ask him... I must remind everybody that for 40

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what I would say to him that I am invigorated and incited to find that

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Parliament is reawakened to the need for proper scrutiny of secondary

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legislation. Does he recognize the impending gap

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for... How will he leave the environment in a better state than

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the way he found it? We are committed to leaving that

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environment a better state. She asked how he would find do that? I

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very much look forward to the debate on the particular way to do it. I

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welcome his comments. He is completely wrong because leaving the

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European Union enables us to take many bodies and we will be able to

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adapt everything to our own environment, our own landscape. Does

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he agree? I do agree. And I am grateful for him for giving me the

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opportunity to put on the record that we will up help Leave uphold

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all regulations on the environment. This will give them the power to

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wipe out workers's rights. Will the government commit to amending the

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clause that gives him that power so workers' rights will be protected.

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The powers in the Bill have been drawn widely so that this country

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can meet the imperative to deliver certainty and continuity and on the

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areas that the Honorable gentleman raises, on the withdrawal agreement

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in a way that allows us to leave the European Union smoothly and

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successfully. I will not give him the day the assurance that he is

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looking for. What I will say is that the person responsible for the Bill

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will look with the utmost seriousness at the amendments put

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forward. But what we will not do... Is except any amendments which

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compromises the fundamental purpose of the Bill, which is to deliver

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certainty, continuity as we leave and to allow us to make

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Thank you Mr Speaker. The reason that the government believes clause

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nine is necessary is a huge volume of legislation that would have to be

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put through the tidier anomalies and legislation. We have determined to

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bring in legislation they do not intend to use. If I want to commit

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the buttons of legislation the promise that is just given to the

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House. Mr Speaker, I think the honourable gentleman is confusing

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cause and seven and nine. What I was at this point is I look forward to

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the fullest debate on these matters on the floor of this has become, I

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hope, Parliament winning, the committee says... Stage. Isn't the

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right way for the honourable gentleman. Turns out to secure the

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rights of workers, to secure environmental protections that he

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wants, to vote for the EU Withdrawal Bill because if the Labour Party

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succeeds in blocking the EU Withdrawal Bill, protections will no

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longer exist. I'm most grateful to my honourable friend for his

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congratulations and support. I look forward to supporting the future.

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You got it right. The best way for mothers of this House which they is

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there because it was by delivering a working statute book currently in EU

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law is to vote for this Bill and support it. Thank you Mr Speaker. At

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the House is aware and the premises are set out, we have prioritised the

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stranded negotiations. We recognise the importance of providing swift

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reassurance to EU nationals living in the EU... UK and UK nationals of

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an EU. We want to protect health care... Thank you for your answer.

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Business across my constituency and throughout the country are worried,

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not just about retaining staff but about attracting the brightest and

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the best. He broke, just outside my seat employs 1000 medical

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research... What can you say to assure them that Brexit would

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destroy their competitiveness? Thank you. It's an important point. We do

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want to make sure that as we look towards the future and we look

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towards a new immigration policy after we have left the European

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Union, we can meet the needs of businesses and I country. And by the

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Home Office has commissioned work to look at all sectors of the economy,

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all parts of UK dementia we can continue to the brightest and the

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best. Will he reiterate giving EU national stability, including

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keeping families together? Absolutely. You are right to raise

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this issue. We set out in this paper a fair and serious offer to maximise

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certainty for individuals and families. It is important to

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remember that this applies equally EU national living in the UK and

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many of our own national living across the UK. Some of the proposals

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have been considered may apply on the day we leave the European Union

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also irrespective of that status of any leaked document, would the

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Minister agree that the government should not make any changes that

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would prevent them securing a transitional deed done deal to

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protect jobs and the economy. I'm not going to be commenting on any

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leaked documents but of course it is important that we secure certainty

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and continuity for citizens in this process. The Secretary of State

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assets are very clearly our to establishing interim arrangements

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and we look forward to discussing these issues in the context of the

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future partnership which is going to be gradual securing votes on both.

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Does my honourable friend agree that striking a positive position with

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respect to future migration from the EU is going to be really important,

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not just for the labour market, but the one we have skill shortages, all

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B1 of the keys to secure the best possible trailed with the EU. My

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right honourable and makes a broken point. It is cut from the PM has

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said that after we leave the EU we will continue to seek talent from

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Europe but we will strike a positive attitude. It is important that in

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the interest of bit UK and EU citizens that we get on with these

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discussions and give them security. Perhaps they'd have given the

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Minister time about answering the question. Which was, of course, a

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commitment not to introduce any new migration was from 2019 which will

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impact on a transitional deal. We also ask, looking beyond 2019, given

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that the government are committed to the principle of reciprocity on any

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deal on citizens rights, would he be happy for UK citizens living and

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working in the YouTube be subject biometrics greening and finger

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printing? He asked very theoretical questions. I'm not going to go into

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details answer Saville has been published. What is important that we

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negotiate in good faith for UK and EU citizens. That is what we are

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doing. Mr Speaker, we have been working with climate, food and rural

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affairs of farmers. The government will provide the same funds until

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Dublin parliament. Their weapon with a range of stakeholders as

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stakeholders as well as evolved... Maintain stability for farmers. We

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will also be introducing an agriculture Bill which supports our

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view for a self-sufficient farming sector which is more productive and

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profitable. To protect our nation 's natural environment for future

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generations and deliver on a manifesto commitment to provide

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stability for farmers as we exit the EU. Thank you for that response. You

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are the Minister is aware that the farming sector is highly requires on

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EU labour. I'm happy to tell my honourable friend about the

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government keeps its position on seasonal workers under review. Until

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we have left the EU, employers in agricultural and food processing

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sectors are free to continue employing EU workers to meet their

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needs. It remains the government of policy... Lower skill levels while

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employers have access from Labour from elsewhere in the EU. I know

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that the Home Office told the committee that a new source scheme

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could be introduced very quickly in five or six months once the need for

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such a scheme had been identified and I hope my right honourable

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friend will be reassured that we will have the agility to meet those

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needs. I hope that they are listening to the people that they

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have in the committee. Evidence that the food would end up rotting in the

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ground if we don't have the labour force to dig it up. Can I also urge

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the Minister that it is not just about subsidies to farmers, it is

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about access to the market and current free access to the market.

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Unless that is resolved, our industry will collapse. Of course it

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was just secure tariff free access to European markets. And indeed

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tariff free access to markets across the world but these are matters for

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negotiation. I'm sure she would join me in saying it is in all our

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interests are miserably in regards to our future agreement. Went Brexit

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give us the chance to design and agricultural policy that will be in

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their interests, not in the interests of inefficient farms in

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your? Either very right, Mrs Biggar. This is a unique opportunity for the

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United Kingdom to craft agricultural policies which suit our unique

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needs. I very much hope that that will be to the benefit of the United

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Kingdom and our farmers. Welsh farmers and fishermen need assurance

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now that UK and Welsh government are working together. How often will

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formal ministerial discussions of agricultural and fisheries sectors

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in the next three months? Will 's meetings be open to scrutiny? And

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very detailed for that detail question. I look forward to

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answering her in writing. Number five. A future partnership between

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the UK and EU is in the interest of both sides. I am sure we will get a

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good deal for the UK on a whole. We should prefer for all outcomes. Even

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that no satisfactory outcome can be reached. We are taking out

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analytical work to the effects of exiting the European Union. We will

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not be publishing any information which would prejudice our

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negotiation. Add that the Minister for that answer. It has been said

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that the implications of a new deal sub... Scenario would open a

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Pandora's box of economic consequences. We could face tariffs,

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huge tariffs. Can you assure that we will not walk away from his

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negotiations with no Deal? It is our intention to do what is in all of

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our interests, the mutual interest of all that nations in the EU and

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the UK. We want a deep and special partnership including a trade

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relationship. The world trade organisation is one of the great

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achievements of liberalism against nationalism and I very much look

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forward under which other circumstances we leave, the United

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Kingdom playing the fullest part in the improvement and element of the

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World Trade Organisation. Desmond Swayne. I hope you still believe

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that no deal is better than a bad deal. I would agree with my

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honourable friend and I would refer him to what the Chancellor famously

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said that what we can't do is accept some kind of punishment deal. I

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certainly think that an environment which the United Kingdom trade with

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the world in the context of controlling our own tariffs, our own

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taxes, domestic regulation is an environment of which we should not

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be afraid. Does it remain the ambition of ministers to secure

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barrier free access for the UK to the European single market? Is that

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the reality the only way to enjoy the benefits of the single market to

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comply with the rules of the single market? Mrs Biggar, we recognise the

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freedoms of the single market are indivisible and the people of this

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country wish for Parliament to set its own laws and wish Apple UK

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migration policy which means with their democratic convertible

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stoppage of the ambition of ministers secure trade which has an

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absolute minimum restrictions and I hope and look forward to doing so.

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The question of potentially not having a deal raises the issue of a

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transition. The Secretary of State said there was a very good prospect

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on that point. Is it not the case to give certainty to business for a

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time frame to run from when we leave the when a deal signed? The

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government has agreed that the country would benefit from a period

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of implementation, but how that period of implementation works and

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the destinations which we are heading is still remains a matter

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for negotiation. With your permission I will answer questions

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six and 20. The Prime Minister has been clear that we will continue to

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cooperate on asylum. We will discuss the exact nature of this Corporation

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is part of the future partnership. As the Secretary of State said, we

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are a country without strong position of tolerance and generosity

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and if anything this will will he guarantee that unaccompanied

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children who are orphaned don't know where their parents are still have

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the right to be reunited with family members no matter who it is living

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in the UK once we leave the EU? These are after all the most

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vulnerable children. He is right. We should absolutely seek to continue

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our generosity towards these children. We have and continue to

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unite refugees to their families. We have granted thousands of visas. I

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can't set out what we will do. But we will continue to bring families

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together. I would call this person. There is a problem with this. That

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unaccompanied children have to make it into the EU and Duper list

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journeys to to apply under these provisions. Would you consider

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extending the provisions if we leave the EU so that wherever you are in

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the world, you can apply for those terms cannot it is not really a

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question for this department, but we want to establish something to have

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a generous policy of family reunion. The UK Government is committed to

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maintaining food safety standards. The Food Standards Agency is a

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science and evidence based government department responsible

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for could Leave protecting consumers. Once we leave the EU,

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these rules will be subject to a rigorous study. Our absolute

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priority is to continue with protection. And base it on the best

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since had Leave scientific information. Do agree that the

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standards pose Brexit will be relaxed? The government is committed

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to maintaining food standards and it will in future be a matter for the

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House of Commons to decide. The Bill that is coming before parliament

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will bring EU law as it applies to the UK into the UK law so it

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continues to apply. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The government knows that

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the UK relies on the EU for a large percent of our food. We grow just

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15% of our food the next fruit eared.

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15% of our food the next fruit A few don't want UK's family to go

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back to eating spam and canned peaches can you ensure assure that

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we won't be adding tariffs to food imports connect?

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we won't be adding tariffs to food imports She has put together a

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fantastical proposal. We will make sure that we continue to enjoy a

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wide range of products. Both sides of negotiations are clear and that

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we want to achieve the strongest possible partnership. To achieve

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this, we have said that both sides must be dynamic and flexible in the

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negotiations. We have made it clear that we want to protect the voting

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rights of the EU nationals in the UK. It is clear that a deep and

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special partnership to see that both parties are strong...

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would the government reconsidered rejoining the EEA?

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As you heard me say early we have considered this in some detail prior

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to the House speech. It is not as easy to negotiate as alternative

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arrangements may be. Now that the Secretary of State has accepted that

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there will need to be transitional arrangements, is that the

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government's policy that the UK will continue to make payments into the

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EU budget for that. However long it lasts? I think this must be the 20th

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time that I've said that I will not negotiate from here. And he should

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know that. What I will say is this, transitional arrangements as we have

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described are there for one purpose and that is to ensure, in his words,

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we want to avoid the cliff edge. It is not just true of us, it is not

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just the UK that has come to this conclusion some time ago as it turns

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out, but also the other members of the European Union. One of the

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things we have been doing in the last six, nine months is making sure

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that they understand from their point of view how valuable to them a

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transition arrangement would be. Past contributions we have made, and

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funded vital infrastructure across Europe which will have long-term

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financial benefit for the European Union, has this been discussed in

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the negotiations and used to mitigate our final Bill when the

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oceans come to a close? We have made very plain that we respect Leave

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expect to respect aren't national limit international obligations. One

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of the reasons that emotions have been so tense is that we where...

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What assurances can you give to financial services and others that

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they now face the cost of uncertainty of three rule books, the

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single market, post single market transition and the Post transition

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agreement? He makes a good point. We want to assure that there is a

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single transition not two. That is why I said that we want the

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transitional arrangement to be as close to the current circumstance.

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And you will remember also that when I responded to him I said that there

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are three right ear. Time for the government to government, time after

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for the financial services to accommodate them. Last week Michel

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Barnier said it wasn't fair that EU taxpayers to continue to pay for

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British taxpayers obligation. Is it fair that British taxpayers should

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continue to pay for EU obligations in circumstances where we may not be

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benefiting? She raises a point that we have already raised. And I will

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raise it with Michel Barnier. At the moment the unions negotiating team

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are taking the approach of stressing what are the legal possibilities.

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When we get to the end of that, we will make certain decision about

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political, and moral response abilities.

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The government the flexibility to new heights over the center the next

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summer, can the Secretary of State tellers how many more upper limit of

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the proposals are just ideas that are going to work in reality.

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May I gently say to my right honorable friend, what everybody is

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trying to do is try and form some form of consensus and I think we all

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agreed that we have a very very short. Of time to negotiate all

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manner of no complex matters. May I suggest to him rather than keep

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ruling things out, put everything back on the table and look at what

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we call Norway for now, what we could simply adopt that the

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traditional. Until we come to a final arrangement with the EU. She

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can be as gentle with me as she likes. The simple truth is we went

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through the process of considering what the best Leave negotiating

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situation would be. We came to the conclusion that the route we are

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taking which is discussing with member states initially and now with

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the union a transition based on maintaining the important components

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of what we currently have is the best way to do it.

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The Secretary of State and the chance are working together to do

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this. Any future decisions on VAT rates will be taken by the

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Chancellor as part of normal budget process. Our children go back to

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school this way, our parents are still paying a fortune on uniforms.

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My constituents have asked me to ask the ministers to raise this fact.

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She raises a very interesting fact. I would point out gently to her that

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the VAT raised billions of pounds and provides essential services such

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as education. I look forward to when we can set

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tax rates across a whole range. That is exactly right. With your

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permission I will take ten and 17 together. I was delighted to see

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this week that universities Oxford and Cambridge have been rated the

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top two universities in the world. To maintain the success we are

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listening very carefully to the sector. As the eat Leave UK leaves

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EU, one of our core objections is to continue collaborating. There's a

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paper that explores how we can obtain the subject objective

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together. Indeed, we have three of the top universities in this

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country. We also have a very vibrant life science. Some have sought not

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to give academic students that reasserts and I know that from

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talking to people at the University of Sussex and the University of

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Cambridge. What reasserts can he -- what reasserts can he give? As it

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was made clear, one of our greatest strength of the nature is our

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science communities. We are at a very popular destination the world

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for science study. I share your ambition for our university sector

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to act as a magnet Fratello. What steps are being taken to

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amplify and underscore the message that we welcome overseas students? I

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refer you to the answer I just gave. I would add that we are going to

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examine student migration. International students enhance our

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universities. We will continue to welcome them long into the future.

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The Prime Minister boasted about the number of Nobel Prize winners, but

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met the truth is many of those were migrants. They started their life

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elsewhere. They first came here to study in universities. Shouldn't we

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be proclaiming that as part of our proud inheritance? We are, and we

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will and we will continue to do so. Thank you Mr Speaker. Will you

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reassure us that the University of Bristol that he values working with

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EU counterparts to make sure that that continues? I will refer you to

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the paper that we published this week that set set out very clearly.

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We see a huge advantage of continuing that collaboration. With

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permission, I will answer oceans 11 and 21 together. As explained

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earlier the UK goes beyond the minimum standards and the EU

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Withdrawl Bill will not change that. It will be a future for Parliament

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to decide on future changes to employment law and of course the

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government has committed not to roll back workers' rights. Thank you,

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that is very interesting because in 2012 the secretary wrote in

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financial times to restore competitiveness we must start by...

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It is intellectually unsustainable that workplace rights should remain

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untouchable. Isn't it the case you can't trust Tories with workers'

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rights? Mr Speaker, it is not the case and I

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would say to him once again is that this government is committed not

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only to protecting workers' rights but ensuring that workers' rights

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keep pace with the changing labour market which is something evidence

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by the Taylor report which the government is currently considering.

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We have heard very warm words about protecting workers' rights which

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will of course be tested over time. But can minister details of the

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House how today precise mechanism they will use to work with employers

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and trade unions that upon exit Britain does not become the low

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standards Council of Europe I maintain that they deserve a time? I

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would say this government want to the race of the top. We want to

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ensure this country is either at or heading to the top of entry, every

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index of prosperity. Congratulations on your appointment. Whether in

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relation to workers' rights or more generally, when he agree that have

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the British people wanted to be subject to EU law, they would have

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voted in Russia's referendum. Does he agree that the Withdrawal Bill

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restores powers to Parliament on the vote against it is only a vote to

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ensure that the UK automatically keeps pace with EU law with no say

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of its own? Of course, my honourable friend makes a very important point

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which I am most grateful for. That is an easy way to automatically keep

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pace with EU law whatever it might be would have been to of course

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remain in the EU. The public has not chosen to do that, and therefore in

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future Parliament, Parliament will decide the law and scrutinise any

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proposed changes. I warmly welcome the Minister to his place. Does he

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agree with me that the Withdrawal Bill is not the Great Repeal Bill,

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but it is the great continuity Bill and that workers' rights will not be

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undermined by this Bill and in fact they are already in hand compared to

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the EU? Of course, my honourable friend is absolutely right. The

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original name of the Great Repeal Bill was inspired by the greatness

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of its constitutional significance and certainly not because of any

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changes it puts in place in relation to workers' rights. As we have said

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will continue unchanged. 12, Mrs Biggar. With your permission, I will

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answer questions for and 12 together. We aim to get the right

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deal for the EU and the UK. We have repeated both parties need to

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represent a dynamic approach to each run. That ability and credulity from

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both sides is needed and we have already said we are willing to meet

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as frequently as required. We want to meet... Reach agreement by the

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end of March 20 17. We'll believe the time of interim will be

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beneficial. To adjust to new arrangements. Thank you for your

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answer. Our future trade relations are vitally important, and it is

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good news. Given our unique position with the EU, surely it is perfectly

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possible to conclude a trade agreement either time we leave in

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March 2019? He is in fact it right and the Bill we are debating late

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today is designed with exactly that in mind. The unique nature of the

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free trade agreement we are seeking to agree with the European unit is

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that we all start from exactly the same standards, and given what has

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been happening the previous question, the same standards on

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labour law as far as the same standards on other matters.

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Actually, better standards on labour law. He is exactly right. That is

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the key to getting a fast, effective and wealth creating trade agreement.

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People and businesses in Middlesbrough are confident about

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the... After Brexit. We'll ignore the ill judged rhetoric coming out

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of the commission about teaching is a lesson and focusing instead on a

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deal that works for our mutual benefit with Mac I should say that

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Michel Barnier... He wanted the say about the benefits of the single

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market. That is what we intend to do. It is in neither side interest

:47:18.:47:23.

for there to be a cliff edge, for businesses or a threat to stability.

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The UK and EU will work together during a interim period which will

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allow business in the UK and EU to adjust in a smooth and orderly way

:47:34.:47:38.

to new arrangements. That will minimise... Nowhere is the timetable

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for the... Nowhere is the timetable stated. Hourly work the border

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between Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland? What have the

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discussion is being? What has happened so far? So far... We can

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only talk at the moment to the discussions within the European

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Union with the European Union negotiating group. We raised, at the

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beginning, we were very keen that we started down this as quickly as

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possible. We understand that, of course, the conclusion we get will

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be dependent, on some extent, that all the other decisions. How many

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special arrangements will rely on the border. The commission was

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concerned continue with the common travel area would impinge on

:48:42.:48:44.

European citizens rights. We persuaded them that is not true and

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they basically accepted our arguments that. Does the Secretary

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of State not realise that every time he gets to this dispatch box and

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speaks, the uncertainty in the key areas of wealth creating in this

:48:59.:49:01.

country feel more and more uncertain about their future. We're

:49:02.:49:05.

haemorrhaging people. Can't recoup people in the City of London can't

:49:06.:49:10.

recruit people in universities or manufacturing. For goodness' sake,

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get on with the job! Perhaps I will organise a visit with Michel Barnier

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for himself. We have taken actions under pen universities. He has in

:49:30.:49:32.

the Nissan arrangements, financial services. About what we expect to

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happen. We have thought about this limitation period with them in mind.

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There is plenty of action being taken to improve the certainty and

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improve the clarity of where we're going. Mrs speaker, it is important

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to be reversed on the timetable but also robust in Brussels demands. We

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should not bullied blackmailed. We should be as a nation. I hear you

:50:04.:50:09.

loud and clear. We have been very clear that the UK and EU will have

:50:10.:50:12.

financial obligations to each other that will survive our exit from the

:50:13.:50:20.

EU. We have a duty to our taxpayers to interrogate that position

:50:21.:50:24.

regressing. That is what we did in the last negotiation. We went on to

:50:25.:50:29.

another question but we had two different ministers appearing at the

:50:30.:50:36.

box. He should feel very gratified he dedicated minister for his

:50:37.:50:42.

enquiry. It is something you can tell his grandchildren in years to

:50:43.:50:51.

come. Mr Martyn Day. Number one. Very funny. Since our last question

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Time, the government has made important progress. In the

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negotiations, we found important areas where we agree, for example,

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on pensions, health care, Northern Ireland and we are now working on

:51:13.:51:16.

the areas where we do not. We provided more clarity by publishing

:51:17.:51:20.

papers on a range of issues. Finally, we will debate the Repeal

:51:21.:51:23.

Bill which gives a fax to the result of the referendum by providing the

:51:24.:51:26.

legal certainty that will avoid unnecessary destruction. I believe

:51:27.:51:31.

it should command the support of all those who wish to have a smooth exit

:51:32.:51:35.

from the European Union. Leaving the EU single market and customer unit

:51:36.:51:41.

would be an axis up arms in the UK economy. Especially if the UK fails

:51:42.:51:47.

to reach agreement with the EU. If you fail to reach a deal with on a

:51:48.:51:54.

two-year deadline, will the UK remain in the EU? I will not. The

:51:55.:52:00.

votes of the British people was very clear. They wanted to leave the

:52:01.:52:04.

European Union. They wanted to take back control on both the Borders and

:52:05.:52:07.

laws. That will not be possible if we simply stayed inside the simple

:52:08.:52:14.

market -- single market in the current terms. EU legislation into

:52:15.:52:15.

divorce in 1993 which... -- I can assure my honourable and

:52:16.:52:33.

that the government fully supports the UK's products. We will protect

:52:34.:52:50.

food name. The government is also engaging directly produces on how

:52:51.:52:56.

best to protect traditional foods when we move the U. EU. What will

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replace... Is always somebody cut and paste version of events. I just

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wondered whether he ever, even for a moment, things from empty may be

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mistaken? LAUGHTER

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It will probably be a unique foray at this dispatch box Foreign

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Minister Tagamet area. I have said at the beginning this is a

:53:33.:53:35.

negotiation. It will take time. It will go in directions we do not

:53:36.:53:38.

expect and they will be give and take in it. That is as close as I

:53:39.:53:46.

can get. Later we will debate the EU Withdrawal Bill. A very important

:53:47.:53:51.

piece of legislation that provides certainty and a smooth exit from the

:53:52.:53:56.

EU. But at the Secretary of State layout for the House and the country

:53:57.:53:59.

what the consequences would be this Bill not been passed, and does he

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agree with me that any member that seeks to block it passing is not

:54:03.:54:07.

acting in the national interest? I'm afraid he is precisely right. The

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purpose of the Bill is to establish continuity for several reasons.

:54:12.:54:17.

Number one, certainty for business. Number two, the ability to carry out

:54:18.:54:24.

a deal which will be unique in the world. Number three, under pen or

:54:25.:54:27.

the rights and privileges privileges that we have promised to our country

:54:28.:54:34.

down the years including employment rights, consumer rights,

:54:35.:54:36.

environmental rights. Of those things are vital to national

:54:37.:54:41.

interest. How should employers in my constituency that I visited in

:54:42.:54:47.

recent months, today, is * of ending up with carrots or additional

:54:48.:54:52.

regulatory barriers for export in a single market when we leave the EU?

:54:53.:54:57.

Those employers should have confidence that it is in everybody's

:54:58.:55:01.

interests, our interest and all of the nations of the European Union to

:55:02.:55:05.

deliver tariff free access between our markets and was said to them

:55:06.:55:08.

they should have a great deal of confidence that we will secure the

:55:09.:55:15.

deal. The purpose of the EU with Withdrawal Bill is to provide

:55:16.:55:18.

continuity and a working statute book on the day that we leave. Will

:55:19.:55:21.

my right honourable friend be absolutely clear that a vote against

:55:22.:55:26.

this Bill is a vote for chaos and a vote for uncertainty? She's exactly

:55:27.:55:34.

right. It allows me to reiterate one other point. After all of the talk

:55:35.:55:38.

on that side of the House has been about changing things in this Bill.

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This Bill is about maintaining continuity, about keeping in place

:55:44.:55:46.

the aims and purposes of all of the European law that we currently have

:55:47.:55:50.

and will have the day after we leave. The purpose of any transition

:55:51.:56:01.

arrangement is to avoid a cliff edge and to give continuity and certainty

:56:02.:56:04.

to the UK economy, but the Chancellor and the trade Secretary

:56:05.:56:08.

published an article last month saying that during any such period,

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the UK would not be in the single market or the customs union. What is

:56:13.:56:16.

the purpose of a transitional arrangement that undermines the very

:56:17.:56:19.

stability and continuity it is supposed to achieve? He makes a good

:56:20.:56:28.

point. The simple truth is, as I have said, we are starting from the

:56:29.:56:31.

aim of maintaining as much continuity as is necessary that

:56:32.:56:37.

anything might change in the final settlement. We will do that. Because

:56:38.:56:42.

we are not in the European Union at that point, legally, we won't be

:56:43.:56:47.

formally members of the single market and the customs union. We may

:56:48.:56:50.

well see a customs agreement for the period and a similar arrangement on

:56:51.:56:53.

the single market provisions. But we cannot make that decision ourselves.

:56:54.:56:58.

It is for a negotiation with the European Union. Does my right

:56:59.:57:04.

honourable friend agree that the system of secondary legislation

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contemplated by the Bill which we will be debating later today

:57:08.:57:10.

provides the best and most flexible means of ensuring that the United

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Kingdom is left with a coherent statue but when we leave the

:57:16.:57:18.

European Union? And is he not agree also that he there will be general

:57:19.:57:22.

bemusement in this country. The opposition as seeking to

:57:23.:57:27.

To begin by paying tribute to my right honourable friend Thrall the

:57:28.:57:31.

work he has done in the department. The quality of the work I have

:57:32.:57:36.

inherited is a testament to the leadership he provided in the

:57:37.:57:39.

Department, I am most grateful to him. But my right honourable friend

:57:40.:57:46.

has made a good point. Secondary legislation is a long-standing

:57:47.:57:48.

mechanism for making detailed changes to the loff, with a scrutiny

:57:49.:57:54.

procedure for each instrument agreed by Parliament. Since their

:57:55.:57:57.

introduction, every Government has used that you treat instruments,

:57:58.:58:01.

every Parliament has debated and approved statutory instruments. The

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minister earlier extolled the benefits of World Trade

:58:06.:58:10.

Organisation. Should there be an ideal scenario. But there is no

:58:11.:58:13.

automatic wavelength of the single aviation market or open skies, so

:58:14.:58:19.

what contingency the Minister and his team making to protect our

:58:20.:58:22.

aviation industry? The honourable lady makes a good point and of

:58:23.:58:25.

course the Government is well aware of these issues and we continue to

:58:26.:58:29.

develop our contingency plans, not only in those areas but right across

:58:30.:58:37.

Government. Constituents of mine at world beating companies are the the

:58:38.:58:43.

bedrock of those companies' success. Does my right honourable friend

:58:44.:58:47.

agree that the withdrawal bill must be the opportunity to cement

:58:48.:58:50.

employee me rides and not erode them? I do agree and I think we have

:58:51.:58:56.

cantered around this issue and I'm grateful to the opportunity to once

:58:57.:59:01.

again say the Government is committed to protecting workers'

:59:02.:59:04.

right and they keep pace with the changing market and nothing in the

:59:05.:59:12.

Withdrawal Bill will do that. I'm in an indulgent mood. Rachel Maskell.

:59:13.:59:19.

Thank you, Mr Speaker. Businesses are in desperate need of confidence,

:59:20.:59:23.

so well with the Secretary of State confirmed that he will have the

:59:24.:59:27.

transition arrangements in place? Because we will have left the

:59:28.:59:29.

European Union in just over 18 months and they are making their

:59:30.:59:35.

plans now and need answers to that. Two things, firstly, we will do that

:59:36.:59:41.

as soon as is feasible within the constraints of the negotiation.

:59:42.:59:44.

Secondly, if she is concerned about business confidence, the best way to

:59:45.:59:48.

guarantee stability is to vote for the bill this afternoon. Many

:59:49.:59:56.

farmers in Wales straddle the border with England. Can my right

:59:57.:59:59.

honourable friend outline he is ensuring the voice of cross-border

:00:00.:00:03.

communities are not ignored in discussions over Brexit and

:00:04.:00:07.

devolution? My honourable friend makes a very good point and we would

:00:08.:00:10.

be happy to meet with him and his constituents to address this issue.

:00:11.:00:15.

It is very important that this bill sets out a framework that protects,

:00:16.:00:19.

new Quay frameworks while we have a conversation with the devolved

:00:20.:00:22.

administrations as to where they are needed. It is a sensible approach to

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protect the interests of farmers and businesses across the UK. Business

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question, Valerie vows. But the Leader of the House please give us

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the forthcoming business. The Leader of the House. Thank you

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Mr Speaker. The business for the week commencing the 11th of

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September will be, Monday the 11th of September, conclusion of the

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second reading of the European Union Withdrawal Bill, day two. Tuesday

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the 12th of September, second reading of the Finance Bill,

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followed by motions relating to house business. Wednesday the 13th

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of September, Opposition Day, first allotted day. There will be a date

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on an opposition motion, subject to be

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