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Order, order. Motion for an

unopposed return, minister to move.

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Thank you. Questions to the

Secretary of State for Wales. Lauren

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Smith.

Secretary of State for Wales,

Alun Cairns. Before I answer the

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first question I conveyed the

thoughts and prayers of the whole

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house to the family and community in

Wales after the tragic fire earlier

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this week. With permission I will

answer questions one, four and 15

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together. The government is

delivering the biggest investment

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programme in over a century. The

weight Western modernisation

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programme includes five on £7

billion of investment in new trains.

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-- great Western. It will cut times

by 15 minutes and will make South

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Wales more attractive for investment

and bring significant benefits to

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the economy and passengers.

Lauren

Smith.

Can I associate myself with

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the Secretary of State's comments

and offer my deepest condolences?

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The decision not to go ahead with

electrifying the mainline to Swansea

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has been a bitter blow for South

Wales. My constituency in Nantwich

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is less than 20 miles away from

North Wales. Many constituents have

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written to me and asked what steps

the Government are taking to

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electrify the North Wales coastline.

Can they give me clarification

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today?

Mr Speaker, the honourable

lady raises an interesting question

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and will be aware of the responses

and advances in technology which

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mean electrifying Cardiff and

Swansea would not say passengers

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significant journey times. She makes

an interesting point related to

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North Wales and I hope she is aware

of the £43 million of signalling

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improvement which has taken place in

North Wales to improve speed and

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reliability on the line. Also the

crew hub offers great potential to

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bring HS2 benefit, which is the UK

major rail investment programme to

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North Wales and the North of

England.

Liz twist. What will the

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secretary of state be doing to

create a more competitive and cost

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effective environment for rail

infrastructure in Wales?

There is a

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major multi-billion pound investment

programme which is benefiting

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railway journeys and passengers in

Wales. The Public Accounts Committee

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earlier this year asked for a

reassessment of the elect vacation

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programme on a state-by-state basis.

That is what we did and that is why

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we are using the latest advancements

in technology to make sure

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passengers in Swansea and West Wales

gets the benefit of the most modern

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trains in the network immediately,

rather than waiting for the

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traditional technology of

electrified trains only.

On the 16th

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of May the transport secretary said

electrification was definitely

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happening and he wanted an end to

smelly diesel trains. There was

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disappointment on the 20th of July

when it was cancelled from Cardiff -

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Swansea and the Midland Mainline.

Ministers cited new technology

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making a letter vacation

unnecessary. Can you satisfy the

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House that this is not a cynical

broken promise by outlining what

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breakthroughs were made after the

closure of the ballot boxes?

One of

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the strong advocates for a letter

vacation was Professor Mark Barry.

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He said the mood neutralised the

case. He made an interesting point

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in relation to diesel trains. These

trains will be using the latest and

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most environmentally friendly diesel

generators on the trains. The

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maximum speed which can be retrieved

between Cardiff and Swansea can even

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be exceeded with the latest trains.

-- achieved. It demonstrates the

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flexibility.

Antoinette sandbag. The

benefit of the station rely on five

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trains per hour to deliver

improvements not only to my

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constituents but in North Wales.

What is the Secretary of State doing

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to support that case?

I am grateful

for the question. The Secretary of

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State for Transport, I regularly

meet and discuss the range of

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infrastructure programmes taking

place in Wales, but also the way the

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network works by the harbour and the

potential it offers not only for her

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constituency but also North Wales by

bringing the benefit of rail to crew

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which will benefit North Wales as

well.

As a former member of the

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Public accounts committee, when the

recommendations were come up with in

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every I am pleased they had been

sighted. Will he agree that any

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future litigation needs to be based

on robust assessment and the trains

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he is proposing to Swansea are

exactly what most parts of the

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network including Pinilla --

Plymouth and Torbay will be getting

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anyway?

He makes a logical and

helpful point. He recognises we are

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using the latest technology,

offering more capacity and much

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faster trains. These are a major

benefit for Swansea and West Wales.

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Criticising the decision to use the

latest technology to Swansea does

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nothing more than undermine

investment in the city itself.

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Geraint Davies.

A letter vacation

from London to Cardiff will save 15

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minutes. The new Swansea Metro

proposal will save 30 minutes

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journey time between Cardiff and

Swansea. The city deal will create

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10,000 more jobs and more passenger

demand. Will he look again at the

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business case for an electrified

Swansea Metro between Swansea and

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Cardiff, to provide an

environmentally friendly a stronger

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future which will offset the

negative impact of HS2 in South

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Wales?

Clearly the Swansea Metro is

a different proposal. But I am keen

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to meet with Professor Mark Barry to

discuss the potential. That is an

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interesting addition to a wide

ranging debate. There are also

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proposals where we can improve train

frequency going to Carmarthen and

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Pembroke because at the moment

passengers from West Wales will

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often drive to Port Talbot to get

onto the train. I think a more

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imaginative solution can become

about and I think the Metro is an

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additional solution that can be

considered in part of that debate.

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Mr Stephen Dowty.

The Secretary of

State will be aware that along with

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a deep concern about failure to

electrify beyond Cardiff there is

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also concern great Western Railway

will not of a bilingual service on

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the mainline service operating into

Wales. As he had a discussion about

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that? Other companies have been

offering a bilingual service even

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though they go between Wales and

England.

I have noticed the public

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statements which have been made by

the Welsh government. As the

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comments the honourable member has

made. I suggest he raises it with

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first great Western, Riva are also

changing it and it is a matter for

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the operators, but I think it is a

positive oppose all.

Jessica Morden.

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-- proposal. Can I also associate

myself with the condolences paid by

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the secretary of state by those

affected by the fire? Our thoughts

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are with them. Does he agree with

the leader of the Welsh Conservative

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party, who this week said

electrification of the line to

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Swansea would be beneficial to Wales

and should still take place? He said

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he has not given up the ghost of

fighting that campaign. Can I assure

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the Secretary of State on this side

of the House neither have we.

Mr

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Speaker I would hope the honourable

member would recognise we are using

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the latest technology with more

capacity and faster trains that will

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go to Swansea. She needs to look at

the 15 minute savings which were

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originally going to be between

Swansea and Paddington and they will

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also be a 15 minute savings still

under the bimodal trains. We are

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bringing about the most modern

technology with bimodal trains on

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the network now rather than waiting

a couple of years with the

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destruction it would bring Swansea

in the process.

Jonathan Edwards.

--

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disruption. It would cost over £100

billion. 15 billion, HS3 and over 13

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billion for crossrail two. It is a

scandal the Government broke the

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promise to electrify to Swansea

despite it only costing 400 million.

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Considering the peril of the British

Government is it not the case the

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only way to make sure Wales gets its

fair share of investment is to

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devolve full responsibility for rail

infrastructure?

I am surprised by

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the tone of the member is taking.

Bimodal trains would be able to

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improve the connectivity to his

constituency and West Wales. Under

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the former proposal of electric only

trains into Swansea, his

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constituency would not benefit from

that. But of course the network in

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Wales is part of the UK network.

When he compares the spending, he

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should think of a logical basis. He

has been supportive of the curve in

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England but which would bring major

benefit for North Wales into

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Liverpool as a network.

Immensely

grateful.

Thank you, Mr Speaker. The

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Secretary of State has regular

discussions with Cabinet colleagues

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on a range of UK investment projects

including the proposed expansion of

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Heathrow airport. Estimates suggest

the Heathrow proposed expansion

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would require 370,000 tonnes of UK

steel, securing 700 British steel

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job. Welcome news for community such

as Port Talbot.

As well as benefit

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to Wales construction related to the

expansion of Heathrow, does my

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honourable friend agree there are

also opportunities for what industry

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to support the ongoing operation of

Heathrow when expansion has

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completed? As my constituents do in

nearby Glasgow airport?

I agree with

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my honourable friend. The

opportunities for Wales and the

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Welsh supply chain is significant.

The Welsh office is working with

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government to make sure that we have

round table discussions and we meet

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in Wales and South Wales and North

Wales soap was companies can be in a

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position to benefit from the

investment in Heathrow.

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Airport more important than ever so

will the Minister join me in

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congratulating the Welsh Government

in order to sink Cardiff airport,

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which has led to a great increase in

passenger numbers.

-- input a single

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Cardiff airport.

The Wales Office is

very proud of the involvement we had

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in relation to the decision to have

a direct flight from Cardiff airport

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by Qatar. You are right about the

importance of hub airport. We have

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had a meeting recently about the

possibility of direct flights from

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Liverpool into Heathrow, Wood --

which would be significant for the

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connectivity of Wales.

Can he keep

up pressure on his colleagues to

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give slots to the distant regions in

the north and in Wales.

I agree with

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my honourable friend. The importance

of hub airport is understood by

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businesses across the UK and it is

imperative that we have regular

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flights into Heathrow, one of the

reasons why we need the expansion of

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Heathrow. This expansion will be

good for the UK and regional

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economies, were connectivity into a

major hub airport such as Heathrow

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will be beneficial for our local

economies.

The trade unions and

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local authorities support these

extra £2 billion worth of investment

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that the Heathrow expansion will

bring. But it depends on two things.

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The extension of HS2 and also a

final decision on Heathrow. When

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will this happen?

The honourable

gentleman X an important point. This

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decision will be forthcoming soon.

-- makes an important point. I would

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agree entirely on drums of the Mike

Warren. There is a new opportunity

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for north woods. -- north Wales.

This is something we have been

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involved in.

Questionable tree,

please. -- question I will answer

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questions we and six together.

I

hold regular discussions with

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Government departments and the worst

Government in Wales. We have

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invested in the new. -- and the

Welsh Government. 100,000 investment

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in important and innovative new

infrastructure. The UK's first

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energy positive office, creating

more energy than it uses.

Lasting

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economic success on the comes from a

long-term approach to major

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decisions economic. This is why it

is great to see that the Welsh

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Liberal Government supports

investment in infrastructure. And

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that the Government -- a Labour

Government works with the future. --

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the Welsh Labour Government.

The

honourable Lady raises an

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interesting point. I regret to say

that probably shows that she doesn't

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understand the relationship between

the Wales Office and Welsh

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Government. It's there to say that

infrastructure investment in roads

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depends upon partnership approach --

in Wales depends upon partnership.

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This is why we have crucial examples

of cooperation.

As with many

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constituencies across Wales, we saw

huge benefits from European

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structural funds. There is currently

great uncertainty about the future.

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Can you assure the house that the

level of financial benefits we

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currently enjoy from structural

funds will be replicated when we

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leave the EU?

The gentleman raises a

point about structural funds. The

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reality is that structural funds in

Wales doesn't make the difference we

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anticipated. Communities such as

yours will want it and long-term

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jobs, the type that I sought when I

visited. This is exactly what the

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economy needs in South Wales.

The

excellent history of Parliament

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website yesterday posted a link to a

bill to build a new bridge at

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Chepstow. Does my friend agree with

me that we need a change to M4 as

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well?

It is disappointing that we

are still waiting for a relief wrote

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for Newport. The Government is going

for a new consultation. It is

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important that we see action sooner

than later on the relief road for

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Newport.

I'm pleased that the

minister mentioned the north Wales".

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Its -- it is ten years since the

last action, the introduction of an

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hourly service. Does he agree with

everybody else in north Wales that

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it's high time that this step change

is repeated by the reproduction of

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the north Wales call spread and

better transport services across the

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border. -- north Wales growth rate.

This was on -- has worked on this is

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appreciated. This was a key

priority, cross-border connectivity

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is crucial. We need to improve

transport links. Whether by road or

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rail.

And you very much. I would

like to add my condolences and those

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of the side of the host of those

affected by the heartbreaking

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tragedy. Mr Speaker, Wales is one of

the many areas in Europe who have

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received EU structural funds to help

improve infrastructure. After 2020,

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will Wales receive the same level of

funding as the comparative regions

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of Europe will there be a reduction

in funding to Wales by this

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Conservative Government?

The

honourable gentleman raises the

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question about structural funds as

if they were a success story in

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Wales. They were a failure in Wales.

Our comparative economic performance

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fell. This Government is committed

to a UK chip with Verity -- Shared

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Prosperity Fund. Rather than being

wasted than the way that the Welsh

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Government wasted funds over the

past 18 years.

I'm afraid that the

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gentleman did not answer my

question. There is a lack of clarity

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of what will happen after 2020 in

Wales. I thank you for a meeting

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with me to discuss these issues. Can

you convene a meeting with the Wales

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team, the shadow Wales team and the

ties of the striker to sort this out

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so that there is absolute clarity

for the people of Wales on this

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issue? And the Chancellor -- and the

Chancellor of the Exchequer.

This

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meeting has to be at the right time.

The key thing in a context of

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structural funding is a strategic

approach across north Wales, this

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was not possible when we had

structural funds. We have an

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opportunity to have a strategic

approach across north Wales which

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will be supported by a sheer duty

prosperity fund in due course. -- a

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shared UK prosperity fund.

Wilson

made a great place to invest. As we

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leave the EU, we will continue to

support existing relationships and

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work to attract new projects and

work closely with the Department of

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International trade to deliver this.

The secretary of State will note

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that the Welsh Liberal Government is

successful in attracting businesses

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such as Aston Martin. This could be

at risk if there is a new deal

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Brexit. What does the Secretary of

State plan to do to reassure the

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business community that Wales is

open for business?

The honourable

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member is applicable right, Wales is

a great place to invest. 95% of the

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projects that came last year were

supported and facilitated by the

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Department for International Trade.

I've been to Qatar, Japan, I be

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encouraged by the optimism and

flexibility that the Welsh economy

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can bring.

Mr Gerry Mautner.

Can the

Minister provide assurance that the

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important markets that he visited,

Japan and Qatar, are committed to

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the current international business

links with Wales? What plans do they

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have to expand?

Mr Speaker, as a

mentioned, I'm encouraged by the

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interest and commitment. Japanese

companies by tradition made

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long-term investments. The first was

in 1973, Sony. They have committed

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to remaining longer.

We have a lot

of noisy private conversations

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taking place but I think it's

important to listen to the products

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of the secretary's meditations.

Ever

poured sort that there was a decline

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in 44% this year. What will it take

the Secretary of State to admit that

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the only way to protect jobs and

wages is to maintain economic things

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with the EU and staying in the

single market and customs union

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permanently?

Mr Speaker, as I

mentioned, last year was another

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successful year. 85 projects came to

Wales, creating thousands of new

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jobs. Exports to the EU were

increased by 15%, exports outside

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the EU increased by 20%. This

demonstrates the great flexibility

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of businesses in Wales, keen to

explore new opportunities exiting

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the EU brings.

For a meaningful vote

on the final deal to be meaningful

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we must not allow Parliament to be

able to condemn the UK to a notable

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scenario, should that final deal

proved unsatisfactory. Would it not

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be more prudent to explore any

problems around Article 50, to

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appease businesses around Wales and

avoid damaging cliff edge?

I hope

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the honourable lady will degrade

reassurances that we are doing

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everything we can to make sure that

the whole of the UK is getting a

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good deal. -- will take

reassurances. We must prepare for

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all outcomes and every eventuality

because we need to preserve the

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integrity of the UK market and

making it the most of new

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opportunities as leaving the EU.

Will the Secretary of State in

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Qureshi Department of trade to give

a higher priority to Wales as part

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of the Government's efforts to bring

prosperity to all of the corners of

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the UK.

I'm grateful for the

question and I think the Department

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for International Trade is already

doing that but there's almost always

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more we can do. I met with the First

Minister on Friday to consider the

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paper as well as the new

opportunities. The establishment of

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UK border trade, including stronger

sedition from Wales as an important

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part of that work.

Thank you, Mr

Speaker. Since the referendum the

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Secretary of State and I have

discussed the impact of the UK's

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exit from the EU across Wales. We

have met farming unions, businesses,

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universities. And you exit panel --

a panel will take place on Monday.

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Does my right honourable friend

agreed me that this has to go even

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further as negotiations continue?

Will encourage other Cabinet

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ministers to come to Wales to hear

the views of Welsh businesses,

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farmers and universities first-hand?

Thank you for the question, he is a

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champion for the agricultural

industry and this is no surprise

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given the constituency he

represents. Discussions with farming

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unions will intensify and the

Secretary of State for International

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Development will be in Wales this

week.

Silvino Louro. -- Elven Nolan.

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Horner put gentleman, he discovers a

new his popularity every day.

On a

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number of occasions I have asked for

the importance of Irish trade in my

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constituency. Last week, a company

from Ireland suggested a new written

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to Holland and Britain. Stakeholders

in my constituency are concerned

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about this. When is the UK

Government going to wake up? -- a

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new route to Belgium and Holland

circumnavigating Britain.

The

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Secretary of State for Wales visited

the port with you. These concerns

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have been heard in the Wales Office

and we have met with businesses, I

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can assure you that our intention is

to ensure a frictionless border in

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Holyhead as in Northern Ireland.

Dozens of academic staff from across

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Europe have been vital to the excess

of our institutions in Wales. What

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discussions has a miniature had with

Cabinet colleagues to ensure that

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arrangements according to student

visas do not change? -- discussions

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has the Minister had.

I've visited

Bangor and Aberystwyth University.

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These issues were discussed. We are

in constant discussion with other

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departments concerning this.

Including a matter of EU visas.

Mr

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Speaker, can I welcome the fact that

the UK and above the ministrations

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agreed the principles on which of

the common frameworks will be

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constructed, particularly the

businesses and farmers unions of

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Wales. Can I encourage him to

continue with this, the more

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exchanges with devolved

administrations so we can get

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agreement on how the common

frameworks should be established?

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Can the Minister's reply exceed a

sentence?

I agree with how important

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it is to go on and have deep

engagements with these

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organisations. I hold regular

conversations on matters relating to

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the UK leaving the EU.

Number 13, I

think.

Martyn Day. Thank you,

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following the last joint ministerial

committee between the Welsh Scottish

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and UK governments, I'd set of

principles was published. -- a set

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of principles were spotless. Can the

ministers give an update on what

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tangible actions have been taken to

institute these principles?

Mr

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Speaker, there are 64 areas of the

war and Herceptin with the Welsh

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Government and 111 relating to

Scotland. A lot of technical work is

0:27:410:27:46

ongoing between officials in the

Scottish Government and Russia

0:27:460:27:50

Government and the UK

administration. Many functions

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beneath that. -- and Welsh

Government. The powers are returning

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from the UK to the EU and we are

talking about this.

Will you, like

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the Scottish Secretary, promise the

Welsh Government a promised bonanza

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-- a powers bonanza?

64 areas that

are being worked on and we want to

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move forward with the powers of the

Scottish Government as well as the

0:28:230:28:27

Welsh Government can be extended. We

need to maintain the integrity of

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the UK market. We must member that

everything must suit business.

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Businesses in Scotland will need

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