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Hello. Tonight, an Inside Out special from the control room at

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Derbyshire police headquarters. A shrinking workforce, police

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stations closing and a black hole in the budget. We've asked former

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Head of Crime, Tony Blockley, to investigate. What is morale like in

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Nottinghamshire? We feel like we are getting a kicking from all

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corners. The level of cuts we are facing in Nottinghamshire, it

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threatens our services in the way it doesn't elsewhere.

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And can computers replace coppers? Are you available for a shoplifter?

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I get a close-up view of the new technology that's keeping police in

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the picture. This is a fantastic arresting tool. People are getting

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arrested on a daily basis as a result of having this technology.

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The police are facing their biggest financial challenge in a generation.

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Budgets are being cut by 20% over four years in a drastic plan aimed

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at saving millions. So, a year into those cuts, how are our forces

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coping? In a moment I'll be speaking to Derbyshire's Chief

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Constable, Mick Creedon. But first, his former Head of Crime, Tony

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Blockley, investigates the impact on frontline policing in the East

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It's one of the toughest jobs there is. Enforcing law and order on our

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streets. And keeping the public safe. I know because for 30 years I

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did it in Derbyshire. I've been a police constable working with the

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community. A detective solving murders. And finally before

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retiring, I was Head of Crime at the force. There's a minicab in the

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middle of the road and it looks like there's a body dumped in the

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back. There's lots of blood. Oh, my God. There's a man, he's in the

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boot, the whole of the back window is smashed in and there's a body in

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the back of it. Stuart Ludlum was married with three children. They

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found him here, adjacent to these two white cars in his taxi and his

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taxi was in the middle of the road. The first is from his children. It

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says, "To the best dad in the world, love you millions and billions".

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took nine months to convict Colin Cheetham of his murder. It was the

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last case I worked on before retiring. At its peak there were

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over 100 officers working round the clock. But things have changed

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since then. The money's dried up. Policing is facing huge financial

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challenges because of budget cuts. It means perhaps reducing staff

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numbers. How will that affect our ability to fight crime? And what do

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people think about what's happening? Do they even know?

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have there's a policeman walking down here and you have got some

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thug going to beat an old Lady, they will think twice if there is a

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copper round. If he sees nothing, he will do what he likes. The other

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evening because of a disturbance, it took the police about an hour to

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get there. It is a sign of the times. All down to the cutbacks. I

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Over the next five years Nottinghamshire has to save at

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least �42 million, Derbyshire �24 million and Leicestershire �28

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million. How are they going to do it? For a start, they will have to

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work together. Five suspicious deaths over a space

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of just six days. But these weren't all in Derbyshire. And how the

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police went about solving them was very different to when I was in the

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force. $NEWLINE It was 16th October on a Sunday morning that I got a

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call to come into work but then I was told I was coming to Derby and

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not my usual station in Nottingham. Now it's not just waiting for a

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murder to happen in Nottingham. We could go at eight in the morning to

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my station and it could be, "All right, Donna, you're going to

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Northamptonshire today, there's Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire's

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homicide units have now merged with Lincolnshire, Leicestershire and

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Northamptonshire in order to save money. One of the benefits is every

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time I have an officer from one force to another, it means a local

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detective or a local cop is working on other work, ie. They're dealing

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with a local burglar, or anti- social behaviour, they're not drawn

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onto a homicide enquiry for several months. Is it working? I cannot

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give the facts and figures but what other projects as it allowed to

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happen? Bear in mind this is just one. There out of the project were

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forces are looking to work together in partnership and collectively we

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will save money individually and as a region.

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Between March this year and March 2015 it's estimated that

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collaboration will save Derbyshire �10.7 million, Nottinghamshire,

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�9.5 million and Leicestershire �5.7 million.

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I think that sends a real positive message, it's positive in the way

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it's working, it's positive in what it's achieving, it's saving money,

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it's giving the public a better service, it's releasing officers

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back, or not taking officers away and I think overall it's got a real

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But I wonder what's happening in Nottinghamshire. Because it's

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having to make the biggest savings It's been three weeks since this

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police station in Sherwood was closed to save money. Not

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everyone's aware that it's gone. pressed the bell and obviously no-

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one came. I didn't realise that it had even closed. Nobody informed us

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at all. Luckily a volunteer is on hand to take the details.

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I see the crime figures. I'm a police vetted volunteer, I see the

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crime figures for the entire county and Sherwood has been the safest

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place to be in the city of Nottingham for the last few years,

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thanks mainly to Ivan's efforts and the committee and the people

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involved and that has changed in the last two weeks. It seems to be

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that the word's going out that it's a soft touch but I can assure you

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it's not. We have had thousands of pounds go from the bank. Two behind

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the shop and we have worked so hard to get graffiti taken out of show,

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Sherwood's lucky to have such a strong Neighbourhood Watch. But

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it's station is not the only one to close. It's one of 12 to go like

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this one in Kimberley. So, Chris, how many incidents were reported at

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Kimberley police station? Last year, 16. In total? In total in the year.

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16 times when a member of the public came in and reported

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incidents to us in the police station here. It's less than two a

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month. Yes, that is right. Can we afford to keep police stations like

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this working when we can provide an alternative in the local area for

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neighbourhood officers and beat officers to work from and make

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significant savings? The community support officers that were based at

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Kimberley are moving up the road to Ikea. So this is the new station

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for you?" This will be the new station, we'll have badges on the

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wall there obviously we'll have placards with our pictures and our

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contact details. And the people in Awesworth and Cossal, those

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communities that you serve, have they made any comment about the

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Kimberley police station shutting? I had a parish council meeting with

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them and we have a contact point in Awesworth where we have beat

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surgeries. We'll spend an hour in there where the community knows

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we're going to be there as well. We've got one up at Giltbrook, the

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parish hall up there. We go and sit in there and have little beat

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surgeries where people come and contact us as well. People don't

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want to get that we're going to be stuck on Giltbrook retail park

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because we're not. $WHITE They're sure that closing

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Kimberley won't affect their policing. But station closures is

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not the only way Nottinghamshire's Two years ago Nottingham was laid

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siege by the English Defence League and Unite Against Fascism.

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Thousands of rival supporters were also in town to see Forest at home

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to Leicester City. And The Mercian Regiment were being given the

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freedom of the city. All this on one of the busiest Christmas

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shopping days of the year. Greg Drozdowski was the bronze commander.

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His job was to brief officers on how to police it. Two years on and

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it's a different story. He's been forced to retire under what's

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called Regulation A19. It's one of the tools Nottinghamshire's using

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to reduce the number of police officers it employs. But it's

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proving controversial. I'm only one of dozens of officers that have

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been forced to retire under A19. We were supposedly at the top of our

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game. Our appraisals were all good and we were performing well, no

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issues with any of us but despite that, we are still forced to retire

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under A19. After 30 years, you were forced out? But obviously you've

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got a lot of skills and experience that go with you. Isn't that passed

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on to anybody? No, and that's the sad thing really, There's a huge

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depth of knowledge there that's going and you don't get that

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overnight, so yes there are other officers that can be brought into

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that role but there was no overlap in terms of mentoring or training

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these individuals it was a case of you're going on that date and

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someone else will be slipping into $WHITE So what would be your

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greatest fear now? I think really that whether it was a firearms

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incident, public order or serious crime, that the force may not have

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some key individuals in place with Greg's one of hundreds of officers

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to go from Nottinghamshire. But the force is still committed to

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reducing crime by 24%. What's moral like in Nottinghamshire now?"

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pretty low, it's as low as I've ever seen it. In fact nationally

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it's at rock bottom. Nottinghamshire Police said they

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will cut crime by 24%. Do you think that is achievable? I would like to

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think so but I don't believe it will be, no, not when you are

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cutting numbers out of the force because where is all the work going

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to go? One in five cops come from where we were only a few years ago.

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And if we did not think we had enough for me had 2,500, how the

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hell are we going to cope if we have 1950? The Police Federation is

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challenging every one of the A19 orders being made against its

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officers. If they win, it will cost the force dearly. What about the

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skills that they take away with them and that Nottinghamshire loses,

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how are they replaced? It is a hit, we are losing some phenomenally

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talented people that you and I have both worked with that we know and

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respect that in a million lifetimes you'd never want to leave from

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policing. We couldn't balance the budget this year without using it.

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It was as simple and as stark as that. In addition to the �42.3

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million that we're having to cut there is another �12 million that

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we should receive in government grants that isn't. So we fall short

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in addition by �12 million of what we should receive in grant from the

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government as well. The level of cuts we are facing in

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Nottinghamshire is such that it threatens frontline services in a

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way that doesn't elsewhere. It is clear that Nottinghamshire is

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facing harder cuts than Derbyshire. In cutting and delivering a

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service... We have seen a lot of things that they do, closing police

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stations to save money. We've shown reduction in officer numbers in an

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appropriate way to save money. We've seen a lot of technology

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being used. And we've talked and heard about some of the

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collaboration projects. The question I would ask is are there

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more aspects of collaboration that they could become involved in. Have

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Chief Constable, we heard your former head of crime there talking

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favourably about the idea of collaboration. We know that there

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are units working together. Isn't there now a stronger case than ever

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before to merge all five forces in the East Midlands? There is a

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difference between collaboration and merger. Merging is different

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from collaboration because the needs of the people of Nottingham

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are different from those in other towns. Bringing together systems

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would have a consequence of a long- term timescale to get the money

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back inefficiencies and the Government are not keen.

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It was looked at in 2005 and dismissed but times have changed,

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don't drastic times call for drastic measures? I know you say it

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costs money but this is the situation we are a in.

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organisation has talked about it and there may be a debate about

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moves in the future where we have to merge. The recognition is that

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if you go for mergers, it would take a lot of money, it will take a

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lot of time to pay back. We are not sure the public wants it in that

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sense. If a merger means keeping officers

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on the frontline maybe that's a price worth paying. It is if it is

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paid for and the delay in getting it is worth the payback will stop

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is it not true to say that the biggest obstacle is the Chief

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Constables themselves? Far from it, people talk about that and turkeys

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and Christmas. I would only ever want to do the right thing in terms

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of policing the East Midlands. By have worked all my life here and in

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it is the right case, I would be absolutely in favour of it but I am

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of the view to please as many people as we can. We are only one

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year into this process of four years of cuts, isn't it the case

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that the easiest will have been made and they will get harder and

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that will have an impact on your ability to fight crime? It is

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absolutely true, it will get harder and harder. This room is an

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investment but it is saving us a lot of money. We are making

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efficiencies and this is saving money already. We know what our

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savings plan is, we made a lot of savings in year one, but the

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economy is having a difficult time and there is a risk that years

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three and four will be even higher. Can you even deliver with cutting

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budgets? We are seeing cuts in crime year on year. It is down

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about 6.5% now. It will get more difficult. I don't think the case

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is absolutely that the size of your workforce and the size of your

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police is the reason why crime is up and down. It is a factor among

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many. There are different types of crime, globalised in economies as

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well. People watching this will want to know what the impact of

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these cuts will be on them. When they hear about police force is

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shrinking, they are concerned. and we have been very public about

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that. We do not deny that. The over the course of this current savings

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plans, we have lost something like 400 posts. It is a big hit. 10% of

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our workforce has gone and you cannot pretend that taking out 10%

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of any business will not have an Out the Government is keen on

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keeping police numbers on the Falls and I am finding out how it works.

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It's the start of the shift for PCs Jase Davis and Leigh Glover and

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already someone's dialled 999. As they race across Leicester their in

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car computer warns them someone who's lived at the address has a

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history of violence. So it's no surprise when there's an arrest. As

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the suspect's loaded into the car he lashes out and then this happens.

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An emergency like this used to rely on good old fashioned radio

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messages passed backward and forwards between the control room

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and police in the field. Are you available for a shoplifter? But now

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radio's only part of the story - Leicestershire is leading the way,

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We will get cracking. The usual thing about yesterday... At Euston

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Street police station the afternoon shift is being briefed on their

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priorities for the day. Make sure you look out for the sporty types

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of vehicles in those areas. Particularly in areas where they

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have been hit for burglaries. Thank Fast response officer PC Jase Davis

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and PC Leigh Glover will spend the next seven hours patrolling

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Leicester city centre and thanks to something called a mobile data

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terminal they won't need return to the police station. All the

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information they've just heard is available in their car. And as long

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as they've got a signal all their paperwork can be completed out on

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the road too. The biggest thing for us this gives us a full desktop

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suite of information. We can access it all in the car, did our e-mails

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and all the thing we have to service on the desktop from the

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vehicle. That gives us an increased visibility and accessibility from

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two officers to members of the public. Police technology has come

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on a bit since the days of Dixon of Dock green. A mugging, can you

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deal? And practically elsewhere. call came from the ambulance

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service, over and out. Throughout police history the only way the

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control rooms knew where their patrols were was when they checked

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in by radio or phone. Today when control sends a message they know

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exactly where everyone is. An 11- Romeo 18, do you want us to divert?

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As Jase and Leigh head across town back in the control room their car

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is being tracked. It's a system called IR3 and it's revolutionised

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the way the force is deployed. Superintendent Jez Cottrill gave me

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a Google Earth-style demonstration. That is the statue of Liberty but I

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can put a call sign on to an assistant, and there is a

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Leicestershire Police van. It is aimed over Britain, it is going

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down on to East Park Road, Leicester, and I can see that

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vehicle is actually in the Rea station of the car park. Very

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impressive but how does it help the people in the control room?

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enables us to choose the most local resource to go to an incident. A

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member of public rings up and we need to get the results there quick.

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We do not have to go through a long debate of where our units are, we

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distance and the click a button and they are there, can deploy them

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efficient live. 40 vehicles. That is the number they have been able

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to cut their fleet by because of deficiencies.

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And 11-year-old has had his foot and needs a trip in an ambulance.

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It could have been much worse. Out on patrol again, Jason spots a

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suspicious car. We have had observations put out on our breeze

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that had been involved something. It is a black Audi. The in-car

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mobile data terminal has instant access to every vehicle database

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including VOSA. With no driver in sight Jase and Leigh decide to

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leave an alert on the system. the moment there is a White added...

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When the car next passes a CCTV camera automatic number plate

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recognition will kick in and a patrol car can stop the Audi to

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At Market Harborough Marion Lewis from Neighbourhood watch is running

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a stall of crime prevention gadgets and gizmos. It turns out the new

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police software is proving useful in rural Leicestershire too. Police

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Federation have the technology that the police are using. - Mike

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Neighbourhood Watch have the technology. How quickly can you get

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a message out there? Sake, there has been a burglary. Within about

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five minutes. We had a village post of office... We had then somebody

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e-mail as saying they had somebody asking suspicious questions which

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enabled us to track progress to a particular van travelling through

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the district and we ended up catching them in Northamptonshire

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across the border. The goods had been stolen but we tracked them

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across the district. Planning -- an extremely good way of showing how

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the system works. Marion's members are worried about

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anti -social behaviour, vandalism, thefts from cars it's not the sort

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of crime that grabs headlines and victims often complain they're not

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a police priority. Good morning, I am Inspector Tony Price... Today

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two of the Leicestershire neighbourhood watch team have

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dropped into police headquarters to hear how they're trying to tackle

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that sort of crime the icons on the map all show crime trouble spots.

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way marker is like a boundary on a map and a perimeter or an we can

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use a GPS sauce, in our case police vehicles up outside or insider that

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boundary. Police officers in the field are

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set targets to regularly visit the Way markers at key times rather

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than head back to the comfort of the police station. I can hover

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over the map and it will tell me in the last day, we have had 10

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officers in that area and they have spent 10 hours. Very impressed that

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we can see exactly where the police cars and constables and the

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officers are at any time of the day. They are out there doing what we

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expect them to be doing. My own opinion is that this computer we

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are using now, and the others, they are fabulous. They reduce the

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amount of paperwork put in front of a police officer. Their shift's

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almost over but Jase and Leigh have another assignment. Are you

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available for a shoplifter? I have got the screen up, what is the

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The teenager caught holding the goods is only 15. The computer

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reveals he was arrested yesterday too for the same offence. And his

:25:42.:25:52.
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photo's on the system. This is the main custody suite. This is where

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the prisoners are first brought to. I have come to Euston Street police

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station to see how that got there. ID officer Andy Ramsay explains how

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everyone arrested is fingerprinted and photographed in the custody

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Keep your face still and that is it, that is your photograph actually

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taken. Let us have a look. Me in my criminal state, not my best

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photograph! If we wanted to, we could find you. What's changed

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though is what happens to my photo next. This is the business end of

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what the machine does. I will do a search for who has been arrested in

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Euston Street since yesterday. This is not immediately accessible to

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all prison officers out on the street. This is another one of the

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major things about this machinery, it is contemporary, up-to-date. 30

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years ago as a police officer, you could only dream of something like

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this. It is so good to have a face in front of you. No doubt, people

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are getting arrested on a daily basis in the region as a direct

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result of having this technology. Other regions are looking to follow

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the lead of Latasha now. �4.2 million has been saved so far as a

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result of this technology but it still has to cut �20 million over

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four years. Police constables like these two are part of a much

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smaller force so can tell -- can technology really bridge the gap?

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We are aware that numbers have dropped and there are few officer

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than normal. Technology can make your job easier and quicker but it

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will never replace the amount of police vehicles we have got, or

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police officers. What it has done is make the job easier with the

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numbers we have got available and it is still at enabling us to do a

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job and to give the public that reassurance that we will still turn

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up and work for them when they ring 999.

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I'm reliably informed that that photograph of me has now been

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permanently deleted from the police database. Our thanks to

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Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire and Derbyshire Police for shedding some

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light on how the cuts are affecting them. See you next Monday.

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Next week on the next Inside Out, grown men grooming children the

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