06/02/2012 Inside Out East Midlands

Hello and welcome to Inside Out for the East Midlands. So who are the

EDL and why are they here? Hindus, Sikhs, due Bobs. Everybody getting

together in society. Also tonight, Richie Woodall

investigates the risky world of the internet. Who is safer? Me or my

kids, and what should I be doing to protect them and myself?

And the man who's made his fortune This programme contains some strong

The English Defence League claim 1,000 supporters have turned out

for their march in Leicester. At the same time, in another part of

the city, anti-fascists are holding a counter-demonstration. After all

the trouble at an EDL rally in 2010, we report on how this one's being

policed, why it went ahead and what effect it all has on the image of a

Demonstrators from the English Defence League are bussed in from

around the country. They shared the roads with some 2,000 police from

17 different forces. They have been travelling from thorium, so the

plan is now executed. What is reassuring is, we have gone -- got

2000 officers but the message is, it is business as usual. The idea

to let both the EDL and Union of Anti-Fascists march at the same

time is to keep control. Keep them apart. And cause as little

disruption as possible to any city centre's main business on a

Saturday. Shopping. I am delighted that at least at the moment, people

are showing what they think about the EDL coming to Leicester, which

is, they want to get on with their business and make sure things are

not disrupted or disturbed. Concern about a flashpoint is centred here.

The clock tower - Leicester's symbol - ground both sides want to

occupy. Early on, the EDL are already here. Handing out leaflets

to a few bemused shoppers. The police move them on to where the

So who are the English Defence League and what do they stand for?

They say they are what's left of England's pride, heritage and

culture. There is clearly anger here. Sikh, Hindu... This is anti-

Islam. Why idea here? This place is now run by its Islamic... It is

true! I'm sorry! Then their leader arrives. I am asking you, if you

come to a city like Leicester and say, no more mosques, what will

happen? Leicester is a beautiful city. Everybody integrating into

society. Apart from Islam. That is how it works. Over in Highfields,

at Leicester's Central Mosque, the mayor is paying a visit. It is a

reality of life in Leicester which is so different from the lies from

the EDL. We are sitting here in a vital part for the whole community.

Not just the Muslim community, every community. It is a reflection

of the very rich life we have in our city. People come from all

sorts of backgrounds and life stars and they live harmoniously.

views of the English Defence League are not those that most of us share.

We have built a harmonious city and we are welcome to those from all

over the world. We are glad that the Muslims have made their home

among us and the last thing we want to do is make them feel under

attack or under threat. Meanwhile, in the city centre, some of the

anti-facists have ignored the request to stay away from the clock

tower. They wanted to be here to goad the EDL as they march by. Some

shoppers are oblivious, as horses are used to drive the protestors

away, down Gallowtree Gate. Despite the hope for business as usual,

this is anything but a normal Saturday. A bit of a ghost town at

the moment, so definitely having a big impact on business. Everybody

is staying out of town. Not good. This is the normally thriving

market. I have just I couldn't get my weekly food shop and vegetables

and there is absolutely nothing here. So, a load of idiots, to be

brutal about it. I don't know what they stand for. I don't care what

they stand for. But they don't belong in Leicester. They are not

going to move me out or stop my daily habits.

Unite Against Fascism are as vocal, and perhaps more tuneful, than the

EDL. I've lived here for 10 years, and the reason I have stayed is

that there was so many different communities. It is not perfect but

people do rub along together. The EDL are coming here for one reason,

and that is to create a vision and drive wedges between communities.

We have to stand together and say we love Leicester, hate racism and

want our voices to be heard. By 12.45pm they're on the move.

Both heading towards the city centre. It is hard to tell how many

have turned out for this demonstration today. Early

estimates are saying three to 400, but when you look down, it looks

The routes only get near each other at Gallowtree Gate, next to the

clock tower. It's sealed off at both ends. Between the two, no-

Churchgate is pretty much closed down, waiting for the EDL rally to

move through. We've been told to move by police.

You're making out that you could open your business because we here!

Your making it look like you can't open your business because we are

in town! Who are you banging in the back?! There's a flashpoint on

Churchgate where loathing is exchanged.

The police remain in control. We've been up to have a look at

both sides... Do support the EDL? don't know enough about it to save.

But several people really aggressive towards me, saying I was

a racist... I ended up joining in the chant. While all this is going

on, something is happening under the Belgrave Flyover. Police run

into position in the streets around the seal them off. It's youths from

the local neighbourhoods wanting to make their voices heard about the

EDL presence. Amid the temporary kerfuffle, time to help an elderly

couple get into town. I will be honest with you, you don't look

like you're going to go shopping today! We're on the edge of the St

Matthew's estate. It's where Leicester's Somali community live.

A court case involving an assault on a white woman sparked off the

EDL's decision to come to the city. Most places are shut here for

safety reasons. This, in a community where they found a safe

haven from warfare. We are democratic in a society. Even if

they have the wrong idea, still they have the right to demonstrate

here and we have to respect that. But others believe the only way to

stop the EDL coming again and again is to ban them. No, no, we cannot

live with this. We let them the first time, the second time, and if

we do it again, it will be year after year. The rallies are done.

There's more youthful exuberance near the clock tower on the anti-

EDL side. Again contained. A very positive indeed and we did take the

decision to police it very closely and control it very well. I think

it has been very effective in deed and undoubtedly, it means the city

can now continue to get on with business as usual. As soon as we

get these lads out of the centre of town and stop their shouting!

away! Go away! You are causing... There are no arrests connected to

the marches. As snow and night fall, some of the EDL are still around.

And so are the police. It is an astonishing fact that every minute,

19 people in the UK fall victim to cyber crime. The internet can be a

risky place, and one of the biggest dangers can be giving away too much

personal investigation. Richie Woodall investigates.

Fraud. Viruses. Predators. The internet has lots of advantages.

But it can be a hostile place. The threats, it seems, are endless. It

feels like when we're online, we're at risk. I'd never had any problems

using the internet. But a couple of days ago, someone hacked into my

emails. I want to find out who that was and how it happened. And I know

I'm not the only one feeling vulnerable. Amy, everything OK?

This is a Menem, my eldest. I've been on social networking site

since I was 13, because everybody started getting it at that time so

I did as well. Nothing has majorly gone wrong, but when I was 13 and

set up the account, I did put in the detail of my phone number and

that led to, in 80 years when I got older, people would text me and I

asked, where did you get my number, so I had to remove that. Just the

thing to get a dad worrying. A survey for the BBC of 13 to 19-

year-olds reveals that more than 40% of those asked said they or

someone they knew had shared something online and then gone on

to regret it. So who's safer, me or my kids? And what should I be doing

to protect them and myself? If there are cracks in my online

defences, this man will find them. After the hack to my emails, I'm

upping my security. Brian, an ethical hacking lecturer, is the

man for the job. If I'm to keep them out, I need to know how they

got in. They might be lucky enough to guess your password and get the

information you use. They could use software that allows them to send

multiple requests to your email address for lots and lots of

possible passwords or they might have targeted your machine at home

and hacked your machine. I had a really bad day the other day. Not

only was my hot melt hacked but somebody created a Facebook page

claiming to be me. The problem is, anybody can create a Facebook page,

so that is not hacking, it is just some form of electronic propaganda.

It is like identity for? Somebody can do it from home or the computer

at work. I hope we can find out who it is. It will be interesting to do

that and why they might have motivation to pretend to be you.

could have a fight! Maybe you could have a fight with the person

pretending to be you! Usually, Brian's Coventry University

students pit their wits against cyber criminals, testing for online

weaknesses without breaking any laws. But this week, using

information that's openly available, But this week, using information

that is openly available, they are going to investigate me.

Whilst they get to work, I am off to meet some youngsters who have

come to regret giving too much away Nearly half of young people

surveyed for the BBC said they would be likely to accept a "friend

request" from someone they knew of, but had never met.

And that landed these students in a frightening situation.

When we all thought it was just another person from school, it just

all felt normal, but when he first started asking for contact details,

like where you lived and commenting on your photos saying, "Oh, you're

a beautiful girl" and that, you just start thinking, "Hold on a

More than 100 children accepted Facebook friend requests from a

stranger, called "Hi, Heart", but soon the banter became sinister.

It was in July of last year, our students were contacted on Facebook

by an individual they assumed was a friend from within school.

That then went to a situation where he started asking for pictures of

them, personal ones, information about themselves and then, very

unfortunately, started asking very It was horrible, because I did not

actually speak to him, but some of my friends did and things they told

me he actually said were disgusting and made you feel vulnerable,

because we did not think that would happen, but it did.

Once alerted, the school acted fast. Nottinghamshire Police traced "Hi,

Heart" to the Middle East, but he was never identified. Since then,

teachers have put on extra classes to ensure that students and parents

are more savvy about what they get up to online.

CYAN I use Facebook all the time, but I'm just careful now. Ever

since then, I have been a lot more careful who I accept and people who

I actually add myself, so that is how it is.

The really scary thing is that nearly a third of young people who

have overshared online say it has damaged their reputation in some

way. It is not just kids who make

mistakes. And some really do cost you dear.

Carl, tell me what happened. Basically, I was working as a

community support officer for Warwickshire Police. Been there for

six years. And I was dismissed for placing

some comments on Facebook that they found "unhelpful". That was the

term they used. What kinds of things were you

writing? Some of the comments were "Why do I

have to wear this stab best in the countryside, when the only blade I

see is a blade of grass?" I've got colleagues in West Midlands that do

not have to wear them so I thought it as unnecessary.

Were you aware that members of the public person could see those

comments? I was not. I have never been a

computer person. Everything was done via my mobile phone, a smart

phone. I did not know what privacy

settings were. If I could turn the clock back, I wouldn't have

Facebook and I would probably still have a job.

A Warwickshire Police spokesperson has told us that the force does not

disclose information on any individual disciplinary matter.

But it does provide guidance to its staff regarding both use within the

workplace and also the private use of social networking.

From what I have seen, Carl is still posting some contentious

remarks. He admits that they are childish, but blames it on

bitterness. The European Commission has

recently published plans to give us the "right to be forgotten" - to

wipe clean our online trail. But I think it is better to stay

one step ahead. So, time to catch up with our

ethical hacker and his students. And it seems my private life is on

display. What we have decided to do is put

the information that we have found so far on a board here.

The basic information you would expect to find - name, date of

birth, kids. But then they start to move into a

bit more interesting information and we find which schools you

attended - primary, secondary. The fact that you got a degree from

Chichester University, an honorary MSC.

From all that information there, which is the most, or should be,

the most concerning for me what has been revealed?

From a technical point of view, probably most worrying is that we

were able to find your home IP address, which uniquely identifies

you on the internet and that could lead your machine coming under

significant attack, because they will try to probe it to see if it

has got a weakness or not. OK, and how do I protect myself

against that? There are some techniques you can

take to mitigate someone finding your home IP address. We tend to

use things called proxies. A proxy is like a filter that helps

keep your machine anonymous. I definitely needed one of those.

What you are telling me is quite scary to be honest.

I think there are there steps you want to take. The first is password

management. Make sure that your password is not

guessable and change it frequently. The second thing is to make sure

the information that you have put on any of these publicly available

websites is information that you really need to make available.

And I guess the most important thing is to make sure that your

anti-virus and operating system are up to date.

Whilst they have found out plenty about me, it will take a lot longer

to trace my hacker. But at least we have brought down

the fake Facebook page. The social network cannot tell me who set it

up, but they have removed it. When it comes to protecting

yourself online, one thing is for certain. Doing nothing is not an

option. I will not be burying my head in

If you have got concerns about oversharing on social media sites,

we have lined up some expert advice. Go to bbc.co.uk/sharetakecare if

you have got a question you want We have heard in this programme

about English identity and integration. But you cannot get

away from the fact that cultures do mix. Nothing demonstrates that more

than food. In the past half century, there has been a huge shift in what

we eat. Tony Roe has been checking We love each other's food. We love

to try new things. Different food from different cultures. To help we

supply just under 1,000 takeaways and fast food restaurants.

It is Sam Sangha's business. And it has made him a wealthy man.

People's changing tastes are likely to increase that taste. It is grave

food. It is great fusion food. There has a lot of exciting things

going on, mixes of English and Chinese food for example.

Integration of food is something accepted without much of a fuss.

Sam Sangha's experience is that, unfortunately, it is different when

it comes to people. When you get a coloured person living next door,

resentment begins to start. The din all of the same way as we do. We're

going to it obvious they have complaints about the way the Cook.

The late 1960's... Enoch Powell had just made his

"rivers of blood" speech, filled with foreboding about Commonwealth

immigration. That is when Sam arrived in

Wolverhampton. At times, it was not a nice place

to be. It brings back a lot of memories. They have not been back

here for many years. We are back at Sam's old primary

school. He stood out when he was here.

realise they was in a minority when everyone started rolling snowballs,

and I was going to definitely be the target.

Today there are children here from many backgrounds. There is so much

education about the world now. It is amazing that our young children

are learning about the world. Sam stood out when he went to work.

The steelworks was the place he was expected to go.

He went, but did the unexpected. Engineer training, rather than

being a labourer. An Asian taking that path did not

go down well. They wanted to get rid of you. They formed gangs. It

was a deliberate ploy to get shot of me. But I was streetwise enough

to be able to look after myself. So, I would say, if we're going to have

a fight, we will have it outside the premises, because if that

happened inside, I would be sacked. It made me a man. I know this place

a hell of a lot. It may be a man. My father laid the foundations to

give us the opportunities we have today. If it was not for these

first generations, we would not be in this situation.

Sam Sangha got away from all that in Nottingham. A I felt there was a

real gap in the market. He is his own boss.

He has also done the unexpected. His daughters work for him. Not

part of his cultural tradition. it is part of the tradition that

the lady should be a warm cooking, waiting for the man to come home

from work. But I am looking to change that. He is our biggest

critic. His work ethic is second to none. They do nothing he would ever

find three Indian sisters walking in the same city with their family

in a business. The food industry he is involved in

is massive. Tastes are changing. This how we

eat our food, especially when times are hard. At these times, people

were looking for good value for money. We need to be able to

provide an Alla carte meal at buffet prices.

Also doing well in a recession are the takeways. In the right place,

they can do good business. Times are changing. More people want to

stay at home. It is a lifestyle changes. And we have the likes of

groups of parties coming together phoning up for meals. The one

restaurant quality food, but they want to enjoy it in their own

surroundings. The problem for takeaways is

sometimes not everyone wants one near their home. There is nothing

worse than coming out on a Friday evening to enjoy a your garden

having the smell of these takeaways drifting across.

In Derby, the city council is one of the first in the country to turn

down planning permission for another fast food outlet.

In Chaddesden, they reckon they have enough already. There is one

there, one there and one down there behind that bungalow. There has

already had we more than enough. The desire to try something

different for many people remains. Integrated palates.

Here in Nottingham, 300 can pack in here and eat global foods. Or all

the countries and an this global village. There are people moving in

and out of different countries. And when they do that, they take their

food with them. I would say the people in the country here are more

adventurous. We are have got about eight buffet restaurants and

Nottingham. And the first one has just opened up in Bristol.

Each immigrant population has brought with it an influx of food.

This is Hyson Green in Nottingham. There is now a big Kurdish presence.

With the people comes another kind of food. Sheep's head is todays

special. It is good for you. So one day, many may be eating

Kurdish and who knows, someone here may make also make a fortune

The English Defence League are now leaving Leicester in these coaches.

Compared with last time, this rally has gone very peacefully. That is