12/11/2012 Inside Out East Midlands

Hello. Tonight, Inside Out East Midlands is at the National

Memorial Arboretum. Coming up in the next half hour:

Playing with danger - why Derbyshire's quarries can be a

deathtrap. These kids think they are invincible and it's so

dangerous. Would you send your child to a

faith school? There is the pretence about teaching all religions in

face schools, it is a fiction. And what happened when Bomber Ted

met Cabbie Paul. Chettle didn't want to know you guys at the end of

Before the National Memorial arboretum, this land was a quarry

and quarrying was a big employer here in the East Midlands. But Tess

bass is a constant problem and people who ignore the warnings are

Derbyshire is rich in minerals. But all those holes left in the ground

from quarrying can be death traps. This is not just a local problem.

Young people have been killed and injured across the country. The

figures get worse as the weather get better. Our story starts at

Harpur Hill - an abandoned limestone quarry on the edge of the

Peak District, and known to some as the The Blue Lagoon. This quarry

gained notoriety when people were posted on YouTube swimming and

diving in toxic water. As summer turned to autumn, the swimmers were

replaced by trespassing teenagers on dry land. It is unbelievable

that people would want to go near the water. And babies being dangled

into it. Luckily, nobody has been injured but every year, people die

in places like this. We have got a key for this place. It is

unbelievable how people can just get in. A tragic accident happened

at another abandoned quarry, on the other side of the county. We have

permission to enter the site. not nice, it is the first time I've

been here since it happened. It's not nice thinking back.. Ryan

Walker from Clay Cross was 15 when he drowned in an old quarry in

Ashover. His best friend witnessed the accident. You can imagine,

coming down here when it's warm, is lovely. Everyone has towels. After

a while, Ryan decided to swim to the other side. Many of us have, I

don't think we anyone else did that day. To he got into difficulty?

he shouted help, or we understood that he was panicking. By the time

he had grabbed attention, he was going under. Since Ryan's death,

his family has fought to get the site made safe. When a local

aggregate firm put in an application to fill the site with

waste rubble, they backed the plan. I get why people come here, why

children want to get away and have a bit of fun without their parents.

But the kids, they don't understand the dangers. What do you want done,

Tracey? Personally, I would like to see it all filled in and made a

safe environment and perhaps a nature reserve where people can

bring their children safely. This bit definitely needs to be filled

in. Despite a death in their village, local campaigners have

fought a bitter battle against the plan. They're worried about the

impact of big lorries and dust along narrow country lanes. We have

every sympathy as parents for everybody who loses their son in

tragic circumstances. Having said that, the quarry is private

property and swimming in the quarry is not without its danger.

after months of deliberation, Derbyshire County Council has made

their decision. And it wasn't the one Tracey was hoping for - the

plans have been turned down. So if infill isn't an option, is security

good enough in keeping people out? I'm meeting Nigel Jackson, who

represents the quarry operators. Given that we get these terrible

accidents year after year, should the industry be doing more to make

these places more Secure? Well, we are making increasing efforts to

engage with communities. This is a long-term commitment to have

community engagement and outreach to schools and local communities. I

think we are probably ahead of many other industries in recognising

that there are potential risks and hazards. Ours is unlike any other

because it is an outdoor industry, it has its own dynamic in terms of

perimeters and the countryside. We used signs, we have regular Martin

of the perimeter fences and often, these are very long distances. --

we have regular marking. It is more difficult with disused quarries

because when the land is sold on, to a third party, it can revert to

the original landowner and control is in the hands of others. One of

the most recent rescues from a secure site happened this summer.

Luke Lloyd strayed off a public footpath running through a working

quarry in Derbyshire. He started to sink into the mud and it took five

hours to save his life. So, how did you become trap was -- trapped?

was messing about, running through the mud and it looked safe. Then

suddenly, I thought I would like to run across. I went straight down, I

tried to move, I kept moving try to get out but I couldn't. You were in

quicksand and the more you moved, the more you sank. Paddy did you

go? I finish about chest height. any further...? I would have been

dead. There are signs everywhere, saying keep out, you didn't. I know,

I just didn't think. Are people not taking the danger seriously enough?

I think there is widespread ignorance about the potential

hazards that might be working -- lurking in a quarry. The water is

very cold. If you seek to swim in Walker -- in water in a quarry,

you're probably get shock. Some of these sides could be unstable, and

it doesn't take a very big stone to cause a problem. There are any

number of potential hazards but none of these are dangerous if you

are there by arrangement. They are only dangerous if you trespass.

story ends where it started - Harpur Hill abandoned quarry. A

site where the county council and the landowner has so far failed to

keep people out. Lisa Skones' teenage son was killed in a similar

quarry to this after a quad bike accident. Since then, she's been

involved in campaigns to try and keep kids out. He spent his 18th

birthday in a coma. That's why I am having this campaign to stop kids,

or young men, they are not his! To stop them taking their lives and

their hands. All right? OK. Thanks for the chat. That could have been

my son. It shocking. He listened, he listened to what I was saying,

but he went in. These kids think they are invincible. It is so

dangerous. Especially seeing that young boy who is of no more than

six years old on a quad bike, he is not supervised. I was shocked. My

heart is really going fast. Lisa's son Danny died after crashing a

quad bike in a quarry. And like Tracey, who lost her son swimming,

these mums' message couldn't be clearer. When it comes to quarries

- stay out, stay safe. One in three of all publicly-funded

schools are run on faith grounds. Now a Christian and Jewish schools

are being joined by Moslem, Hindu and Sikh once. People say they can

provide a high standard of education, but critics say they are

divisive and prevent integration. They schools are mushrooming

everywhere. They are divisive. argument doesn't wash. There is no

argument until today that faith schools segregate. They cause

friction in the community. There are people within society you want

to hold on to their religion. are counter-productive and usually

harmful to the fabric of our society. -- hugely harmful.

Polarised views on a controversial debate - should the taxpayer fund

schools based on faith? 7,000 of the nation's 21,000 schools are

religious foundations, and the numbers are growing. Many parents

are unhappy with their local secular schools and want an

alternative. We wanted the best of both worlds. We wanted her to

achieve academic lake and not to forget her religion. I come from a

background of very mixed cultures. Leicester itself has a lot of mix

culture. So I'm not worried that they are not mixing with people of

different religions. The Leicester Islamic Academy was one of the

first Muslim schools in the country. Established before the government

gave the go-ahead for large numbers of free new faith schools, it

charges for its education. But despite the cost, there's huge

demand. For every place, there are five applications. We do better

than most schools. We are high up in the league. But being an

independent school, will not enter into the league tables. But we are

doing better than all the schools around us.

# If you're a sad and you know it, tell a friend.

It is a normal education but underpinned by Our religion for's

ethos. We have the five pillars of Islam over there and Jackie and the

Beanstalk over there. It is more of the moral and ethical side to

ensure that our children get both sides of education. Recent surveys

have shown that more than 60% of the 25 top ranking state schools

are based on religion. Although opponents accept that many faith

schools provide a very good academic education, they say it's

not balanced. They do not give you the opportunity of broadening the

horizons of knowledge, the knowledge becomes limited and as

they grow up, they do not grow up into rounded children, rounded

citizens, who would create harmony in society. The Madani High School

is linked to the Islamic Academy but the education is free, paid for

by the state. Some of the children here had friends from all religious

backgrounds at their old school. Now their classmates are almost all

Muslim. Did they resent it when their parents sent them to an

Islamic school? Through the years, I have learnt to build my confident

with my religion. I can integrate into society no problems. I can go

to college, or university with an identity of being a Muslim girl.

thought I was going to miss out on everything else. But I see that I

haven't because I have a great dedication and the teachers teach

fantastically. Parents need to have that choice and that freedom. I

believe this country is about freedom and opportunity and the

school provides opportunity. If the demand was not there, fake schools

would not flourish. Choice is an overworked word. While I nothing

against -- I have nothing against people teaching religion, I do not

think the state has any responsibility in providing funding

for this purpose. We have clear links between these three ideas and

the curriculum. Sikhs in Leicester want to open a new faith school

next year. The Krishna Avanti Hindu School may provide them with a

model for their plans. State schools, they're very big classroom

sizes and the schools are very large as well. We want to create a

school where children are brought up like a family and the education

will be outstanding. Are we ready for our new day? Chris Spall is the

head teacher at Krishna Avanti. He is a Christian. He says it's vital

that all faith schools open their doors to all religions. It's a

British school with a Hindu ethos but that ethos is inclusive. Our

admission policy says that we give 50 % of our places to other faiths

or no faith. The other 50 % goes to Hindus. We have improved -- we have

succeeded in that and we expect to improve on that. We have our 32nd

silence first. Prime Minister David Cameron says

faith schools provide more choice. It's a choice which the parents of

Oliver Furbear Jackson were delighted to make - at the moment

he's one of only two Christian pupils at the Krishna Avanti school.

We were overwhelmed by the ethos of the school. And despite being a

practising Christians, we thought it would be a perfect school for

Oliver. It doesn't really matter what colour our skin is, or

whatever cultural beliefs are, in fact one of the parents said in the

playground to my husband, Krishna or God, he made both of us, the

cutters from the same class. That is the nicest thing and we feel

that is how the school has interacted with us.

For more than 30 years, Resham Singh Sandhu, a former High Sheriff

of Leicestershire, has led a campaign to bring faiths together.

He believes the new wave of free religious schools will lead to more

divisions. Now the time has come for us to be operating as a

mainstream, living along with others. If we are going to be

exclusive operating within our own faith, with an hour own community,

then our contribution to society as a hold -- as a whole will not be

beneficial. Religion has played a beneficial part throughout the

history of education, in this country especially. I think that is

a good value and we can still hold on to that without compromising

dealing with people of other faiths or people at other schools.

government is keen to fund more faith schools and is hoping the

expansion of academies free from local authority control will drive

up standards. But opponents are asking, will this be at the expense

Finally tonight, why Remembrance Day has even more meaning for a

group of war veterans who have waited 67 years for recognition.

There is now a memorial for those who served in Bomber Command but

that is thanks to people like Ted Cachart, who made it happen. This

is what happened when he got into Silhouetted against a moon, giant

Lancaster's loomed darkly. 1,000 bombers are massing. Today is the

big day of our lives. My old man was in the army for 36 years.

turned his back on us at the end of the war. Who, Churchill? I didn't

know that. We were some of the lucky ones. Many of us did not come

back. They were -- there were 900 from my squadron who failed to

return. These men know what they have to do. A calm moonlit night

and everything waiting from planes to carrier pigeons. They know what

the arts of. I decided to take a chance, falsified my age. I passed

the selection board and, service number. It was just before my 16th

birthday. I decided I was going to join the RAF. I didn't fancy

walking anywhere and I didn't fancy swimming anywhere. I've got all the

respect in the world for you, my friend. The cameraman and second

pilot is ready to drop the camera and take the controls is the need

arises. There is an occasional flash and the German defences are

very active. The plane is taking violent evasive action. We had a

collision in our Lankester with people from our squadron and they

were killed. Our pilot doesn't know how he got out. He has never

remembered having got out of the aircraft.

Took our wing of. If only people knew. Is this all in your book?

knew. Is this all in your book? knew. Is this all in your book?

Victory in Europe! In the hour of triumph, let us salute those who

made this moment possible. Victories such as ours are not

bought without a grievous price in sorrow. On battlegrounds and every

part of the world, silent memorials mark the resting place of those who

will not return. Thousands more were long bear the marks of war.

have our remembrance book here, which is our squadron. We will now

have a memorial which will hopefully keep their memory alive

for many generations to come. one of the BG's involved, rubbing

it? The foundation stone at for their memorial was finally laid

today. Remembering all of those who fell in the service of freedom.

It's about standing up and saying we honour these men who lost their

lives and went freely to their death. Little's signings are going

on around the country with different veterans. This has been

going on for some time now. Signatures of veterans are becoming

very much sought after. Because veterans are passing away. IM Bates

to be the last one and I will lock the door and turn the lights out. -

- I am going to be the last one. 67 years is a long time to wait for a

memorial. A true justification for those who lost their lives. The MoD

did contribute one penny? No contribution from the government

whatsoever? Know. And they went up keep it either. So this is from

public donations? Exactly. Is this because it's not PCTs, because of

the fact that there was bombing? -- because it is not PC? I have never

heard that before. Churchill didn't even want to know you guys at the

end of the war? He ordered the raid on Dresden to take place to pacify

While he! Talk about learning something new every day. That is

the phrase of the day for me today. And that is not to forget for a

moment, those hundreds of men who faced other great challenges and

overcame enormous odds and dangers. Evading, escaping. As Winston

Churchill famously recounted, the gratitude of every home in hour

Ireland, in our Empire and indeed, throughout the world, goes out to

the British airmen who faced constant challenge and mortal

danger and are turning the tide of the war by their price and devotion.

-- by the Paris and devotion. -- bike their prowess and devotion.

last, we have a memorial and a recognition which is as important,

that what we did was right. The tarnished name of Bomber Command

has now been cleaned. I thought Prince Charles was coming to shake

The height of excitement and the Low was standing and waiting in the

queue. It was all worth it in the end. Do you feel you have finally

got recognition? I think the whole attitude of the country is going to

change. People who perhaps didn't know the whole story will perhaps

now know what it is. Sir, Thank you very much. From the bottom of my

heart. From the -- in the hour of triumph, let us praise those who

When can report met bomber Ted. That's it from the National