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Hello from Nottingham. Coming up in the next half hour.

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Showdown in our smallest county. When the law gets involved, the

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police in particular, that as a nasty element to any form of debate.

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The day Cloughie got sacked — 40 years ago? And what can these

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pictures really tell us about the past? We finally heard the story

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from the chairman. Our friendship and partnership over the years had

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been tremendous. What can these pictures really tell you about the

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past? Bringing you the stories that matter

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closer to home, I'm Marie Ashby and this is Inside Out East Midlands.

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First tonight a long running battle in the smallest county. The gloves

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are off between one group of councillors who say they are being

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kept in the dark about decisions, and the ruling administration who

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are threatening legal action claiming harassment. Tony Roe has

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been to find out what is going on. Rutland. Officially the happiest

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place to live in England. But there is bitterness here. Accusations over

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planning applications. Accusations of a black hole in the budget.

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Counter claims of harassment. The calling in of the police.

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On one side are the ruling Councillors. In the Middle the Chief

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Executive. And on the outside are the rebel councillors, the accusers.

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This to me is the last chance saloon for these gentlemen, think about it.

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Threats that we shouldn't be dancing these questions. Threats that we

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shouldn't be going about our business as counsellors and no

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threats that are effectively coming from the police. When the law gets

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involved, that adds a nasty element to any form of debate which will

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only ratcheted up the tension. This is one of the reasons why the

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rebels are asking questions. The construction of a mansion on the

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shores of Rutland Water without the need to go to the planning committee

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The farmer who used to own the land here wasn't allowed to build a

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bungalow on the site. The good old days have gone on, haven't they? The

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formerly used to own the land he wasn't allowed to build a bungalow

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on this site. How did they get planning for that massive welding?

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It is ridiculous. It is difficult to understand planning of policies

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change. This one goes back over 40 years. In the sixties Henry

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Wakerly's father farmed and lived in the valley below Hambleton. But then

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came Rutland Water. The farm was flooded. The Wakerlys were allowed

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to build two houses further up the hill but could only afford one at

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the time. When they had the money permission was refused repeatedly.

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Mr Wakerly gave up. He sold the land for a million and in disbelief saw

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planning approval granted to the new owner who sold before building

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anything. But the next owner then put up a house on a much bigger plot

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complete with annexe, without the need of going to a planning

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committee. I resent it really. If it was just a normal sized house it

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wouldn't be so bad stop if they built a sensible house, but they

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have looked —— output to the same position I was refused, it does not

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make sense. People continue to say how was that repeat —— accepted when

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something very small was refused. All those reasons which were given

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to refuse an application when ignored. How was this approved by

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the delegating powers? Planning policy it seems changed, no longer

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classifying the land as farmland. So the mansion was approved. This was

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never one which needed to go to a planning committee as was normal

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local concern raised about it. Officers made a decision but they

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checked with the chairman of the planning committee. He checked with

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me and I had no local concerns. Lots of applications of assembler ——,

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nature would go through without being delegated unless there was

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public concern. The next concern for the rebels. The sale of the Park

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School site in Oakham. They wanted to know how it could be that it was

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on the open market only hours after full council had discussed it. Lo

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and behold the next day, a huge for sale sign appeared on the site which

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seemed amazingly quick for the agent to have done his due diligence. From

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that period on, I had grave reservations about what was

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presented in front of us. The problem was we lost trust in the

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council. I have lost trust. They lost trust and they complained. A

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lot. Allegations were made about the conduct of the council leader and

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his deputy. An independent inquiry report costing 25,000 was

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commissioned. 11,000 was spent on a police inquiry. It completely

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cleared the councillors but didn't satisfy the rebels who still feel

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documents are kept from them. When we are told we cannot see minutes to

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meetings and can see certain documents, that raises alarm bells.

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Now one has given us strong reasons why we cannot see these documents.

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All the information they have asked for and the minutes have been given

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to them. I have just met with you for this interview. I am not taking

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any minutes of it. Sometimes you meet with people and there are no

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minutes. They think there is something wrong and they are

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frantically trying to see if they can find it. There is nothing there

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for them to find. They claim there is a black hole in council

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accounts, unbelievable, there is no proof. I have challenged them to

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race to the provide proof. Other councils have challenged and they

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refused and Sir. That is where we are with this of councillors. What

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happened here in the summer of 2012 has had serious repercussions. A

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senior Director was suspended. He was escorted from the building by

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the Chief Executive. He went home and hanged himself. The inquest

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verdict — suicide. The Director's sister and father sought help from

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the rebel councillors. They want to know why he was he facing

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disciplinary action? All the inquest heard was it was nothing criminal.

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His death was tragic. We have supplied all the information to the

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police and the coroner. They held an inquest. After the inquest the next

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of kin, which is his wife, asked that we die vulture now further

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information. We have honoured that commitment. —— that we die vulture

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now further information. They should be able to talk to the blood

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relatives and satisfy them in the same way. The problem is the

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Council's Chief Executive wants no more questions. She went to the

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police and they sent a warning letter to the rebel councillors. It

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did seem as hard on the heavy—handed side. The sort of things which were

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being discussed, breaches of the law and possible prosecution, would have

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anybody receiving a letter like that in no doubt they were in very

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serious territory. What the letter did do is drive them into the

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welcoming arms of UKIP. It's another switch for Nick Wainwright who

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started his local political career as part of the Tory group's cabinet.

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I became disenchanted with the lack of detail that seem to be presented

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when it came to specific projects and I decided the best thing for me

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to do was to stand as an independent which would allow me to do my job.

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In a reversal of fortune Terry King, now Tory deputy leader, was once an

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independent colleague of Dave Richardson? one of the three rebels.

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He still continues from the outside to take the same stands. I don't

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want to totally complain about what is going on, that gets us nowhere.

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The Chief Executive wouldn't be interviewed for this programme. The

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Council have backed her to take legal action against the rebel three

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despite criticism at Government level. It is my understanding that

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no apology is forthcoming and we are the next stage to go towards legal

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proceedings. Those at the receiving end must recognise that that is what

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the other group of members is there to do. Those members receiving

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decisions they do not like, must also realise that that is what those

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decision—making councillors are there to do. Where will this stand

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off end? They both have solutions far apart. The only way it will be

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correctly resolved is for an independent team of investigators to

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coming and question both sides. We need to have a full council in

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public ANSI X is the case because of this. Then we can see in public this

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is the answer. Then people can form their own judgements. How far can

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you go and who blinks first? Somebody has to make the decision

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that these relationship should be prepared for not just the council

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but also the people of Rutland. High noon could have to wait until the

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next election in 2015. A year and a half is a very long time in local

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politics. For some Derby County fans, the

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recent sacking of manager Nigel Clough was a case of history

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repeating itself. Next week marks the 40th anniversary of his father's

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controversial departure from the club. But as Simon Hare has been

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finding out, one side of THAT story has remained untold — until now. A

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private family archive featuring one very public figure. A young Brian

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Clough and family at play. Film shot by the family of Sam Longson, the

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Derby County family chairman who brought cloth to the club. ——

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Clough. His relationship was that of the Sony never had. It was Longson

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who spotted the potential of the inexperienced young manager, signing

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him in 1967. There were a few other directors with him and they were not

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over keen on Brian. But my father was stuck with him. So he persuaded

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them to give Brian the job. Without doubt in those early days, the

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relationship didn't work and it worked with the success of Derby

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County. I signed probably a month after Brian Clough took the job.

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They were always together, always talking to each other. Brian allowed

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Sam to come into the game as chairman. You could tell there was a

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warm relationship between Sam and Brian. And I think any successful

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football club, there has to be relationship. Five years after

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arriving, Brian Clough repaid Longson's faith in him with Derby

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County's first—ever division one title. He used to say to me,

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whatever you do, just when something from it. And we won. Having won it,

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outside influences started to change.

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You are a disgrace. 170 grand for Colin bloodied Todd. There had been

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tensions. Clough was signing players behind his chairman's back. This is

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the telegram Clough sent Longson after breaking the British transfer

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record for Colin Todd, saying he was now running short of cash. But

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Longson feared Clough's maverick approach could spell trouble for

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Derby County. Now, almost a quarter of a century after his death,

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Longson's on account of that era is to be published for the first time.

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We feel in fairness not only to Sam, what do the history books and the

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legacy of Derby County itself, there should be more prospective to who

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was responsible for what during the glory years of the 1970s. Sam

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Longson had made his money from a successful Peak District haulage

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business. As a teenager in 1918, he had come to Derby market place to

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find work. In 1972 committee was back there, parading the biggest

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prize in English football. With success, Clough had become even more

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outspoken. Football had a bad week last week. The goodies last and the

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baddies won. My father asked him to stop it and just concentrate on

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management. He was a fantastic manager. I don't like him

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criticising fellow managers. Sir Alf's character will stand him in

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good stead. I'm sick of the people in your profession. Derby County had

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already been in trouble twice with the FA over its financial affairs

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and the failed transfer of the year and more. Longson failed cloth would

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land them in more trouble. —— Clough. Their relationship broke

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down. As a player we did not really see that fracture. It was not as

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obvious. On October the 15th, Clough and Peter Taylor offered their

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resignations. Longson and the majority of the board accepted them.

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To this day, many fans think Longson sackcloth. Was he a manager that it

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simply become unmanageable? I'm sorry this has taken place. It is

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very distressing to me. Our friendship and partnership with the

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years has been tremendous. Could you have held on? Most certainly. I

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resigned because I detected a change and they tried to channel me and put

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the dampers on me. They restricted me. But having left and made a

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decision, I would not for one second tell you I had made the wrong one.

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If Brian and Peter were here today and they were talking about it, they

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would tell everybody it was the biggest mistake they ever made. I

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think Grandad was more about the club than just being a steward.

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Quickly getting Dave Mackay tie in place and getting Derby County back

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to playing football. The proof was winning the championship again two

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years later. A lot of people forget that part. Getting to Europe and

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getting to the semifinal after the Brian Clough era. Sam Longson's

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family have come to Derby Telegraph to find photographs of that era for

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the book. He was immensely proud of what Derby County had achieved. And

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the relationship he had with the players and their families. It is a

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chance to actually set the record straight. The new generation get a

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view from what they read on the websites and what they see in

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movies. There would be no Derby County without me. No league title,

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no champions of England, not without Brian Clough. The family are unhappy

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about this particular scene from the film. The chairman is the boss, then

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the selectors, then the fans, then the players and finally, last of

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all, but of the heap, the lowest of the Lowell, comes the one who in the

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end we can all do without. The blooming manager. They say Longson

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felt the relationship between chairman and manager working

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together was key to success. 40 years on and another Clough has left

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Derby County. At what would prove to be Nigel Clough's last game in

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charge, fans were still talking about what might have been in the

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1970s. Sam Longson? My first reaction? Not good. He got rid of

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Brian Clough. The clash of the Titans. He started the club moving

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in the right direction in the 60s. I talk a lot about my grandfather to

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my kids. They don't see any evidence. To put that right, the

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family hope in the future the club may mark Sam Longson's role in the

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glory years. We were a close—knit and successful family. How they

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recognise him, I don't know. But certainly he has got to have some

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recognition for what he did alone in terms of bringing Brian and Peter to

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Derby County. Thanks to these, we've never been so

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prolific in recording our lives. 250 million pictures a day are uploaded

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on to the biggest social networking site alone. Yet in the past, our

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cameras only came out on special occasions. So there was huge

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interest earlier this year in an exhibition of pictures which showed

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how we lived more than half a century ago. For photographer David

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Sillitoe it led to a surprising discovery about a long demolished

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Nottingham slum. Images of the past on show at the

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Djanogly Gallery. Some professional. But also many family pictures,

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mostly of Nottingham. Pictures of people and how we used to live in

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post war Britain. You would not have a camera. These were read things to

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have and if you had one you would probably just reserve the 12 shots

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that you could afford for your holidays. And you were not exactly

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photographing in the streets where you lived. So actually when you find

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domestic material, it is quite rare. Some of the subjects of the photos

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are here and able to add their own gloss to the pictures. What draws me

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to this picture is a particular memory of this area here. They broke

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joins the River Trent. And there is a single beach... Terry Sleaford can

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be seen on the brand new Clifton estate, after being moved from the

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slums of soon to be demolished St Ann's. The families moving from

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Saint Adams to Clifton are also beginning to document the change in

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their social circumstances. The final one is me and my sister in the

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back garden. We have back garden. We have not been able

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to do that in the house at Saint Adams. Terry Sleaford's Clifton.

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Over half a century you can see the changes. It's busier now. Shall we

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see Africans find the spot where this photograph was taken? —— shall

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we see if we can find the spot. I want to find the spot where Terry

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and his sister were snapped with their mum. It's at a bend in the

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path and remarkably still there. It's all that is left from 50 years

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ago by the busy A453. You would have been walking down here on your way

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to the village will stop ——. If you could nominate one picture from this

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exhibition that is not only your favourite, but you'd really love to

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find the person or people in that picture, which one would it be? This

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is 1969. Shot by a photographer called Roger remain. There is the

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wonderful movement of the woman sitting on the doorstep, reaching

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across to this little baby. It does say a lot about how life was lived

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out on the street, how people conducted their social life. They

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may be a possibility that quite a number of the people in this

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photograph are still in Nottingham and can tell us about the Davies

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photographs were taken. At the end of the exhibition the huge images of

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the people we want to find are taken away. This I am at the

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Nottinghamshire archive. We have a clue, a house number. We are going

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through all of the record is hoping to find somebody with an unusual

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name at number 45 that can cast a light on who may be in this other

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photograph. It is a long process of filtering through these old records.

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We found the Shortlands, now on Nottingham's Top Valley estate. They

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put us in touch with Tony Miller, who runs a Facebook community which

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celebrates life around the St Ann's Wells Road before the demolition and

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70's rebuild. The forced splitting of the community and the

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justification for doing it by academics is still resented. This

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book was almost a justification to flatten it? Absolutely. I think that

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is probably one of the most upsetting things I hear. It was

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constantly referred to as a slum. It was not that way at all. There were

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certain parts that needed treatment in terms of rebuilding but that was

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very much in the minority. As for slums, it may be clouded with

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nostalgia, but my memories are not of a poverty stricken era at all. It

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is of a very thriving, bustling community. This was an area I could

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come to. I knew this like the back of my hand. Back to our group of

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photographs. We know now this is Bombay Street. Good memories remain

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from those who lived here at the time the photographers image was

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used to illustrate a book on poverty. —— photographer's. That was

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my sister. She was in the Brownies. And that is me with my younger

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brother. That was in the backyard. You can get an idea as to the type

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of life that we lived. That is inside our family home. My dad was a

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bricklayer. The private landlord pretty much let him get on with what

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he wanted to do. He got that stone from a bridge that had been pulled

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down, dressed it and built a stone fireplace. That was 1965. That is

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not a slum. Do you reckon the fact that everybody was so pushed into a

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small space, did make a community form? Yes, it worked brilliantly to

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where I lived, if you had an accident or you needed help with the

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children, there would always be helping parents hands. Nowadays

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people just shut the doors and they don't want to know. If proof was

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required about the community fondness for St Ann's before

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demolition then it's here. A big reunion from those old enough to

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remember well. Among them was the man who put us in touch with the

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group. Just the camaraderie that has gone on for 50 years, it is amazing.

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So was the academics' stance that life for the people here was one of

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unremitting drudgery, a true picture? We didn't know we were

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poor. There were obviously wealthier people around us. The people at the

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newsagents had a car. Most of us were the same. We were all happy.

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There was not drudgery. Your man would send you for a couple of

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slices of bread to your neighbour and you'd pay him back on Friday.

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You can't knock on somebody's door now and ask them for some bread or

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sugar. Take —— they would think you were mental. This is no art gallery

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but a tent at an inner city farm. People preserving their own past.

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And they've come here from as far away as Australia to make the point

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that the picture painted of old St Ann's was wrong. Pictures don't tell

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all the story. And if you recognised yourself or

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someone you know in any of those pictures we'd love to hear from you.

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Next week, an Inside Out special — do we know what we're eating? It's

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ten months since the horse meat scandal shook our faith in food. Now

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Jay Rainer asks, who's really in charge of our food supply? Is it

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really what it says on the tin?

:28:48.:28:52.

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