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Hello and welcome to Alport Heights in Derbyshire | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
In our special programme tonight, we are checking up on the health | :00:00. | :00:10. | |
Medicines and money. Our cameras catch patients | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
Do we still have a National Health Service? | :00:16. | :00:29. | |
Professor Robert Winston does not think so. | :00:30. | :00:34. | |
And is it time to ration fertility treatment? | :00:35. | :00:39. | |
What happens when the cost of starting a family | :00:40. | :00:41. | |
When somebody can have three goes and someone else none, | :00:42. | :00:45. | |
I'm Lukwesa Burak and this is Inside Out for the East Midlands. | :00:46. | :01:05. | |
First tonight, our hospitals are facing one of their | :01:06. | :01:07. | |
busiest winters ever. The wards are full. | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
And the budgets are under enormous pressure. | :01:10. | :01:12. | |
So, the last thing the NHS needs is to be throwing away money. | :01:13. | :01:15. | |
But that is exactly what appears to be happening, as patients sell | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
on the drugs prescribed to them by their GPs or specialists. | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
Jonathan Gibson has been investigating. | :01:21. | :01:29. | |
And funding the health service does not come cheap. | :01:30. | :01:44. | |
In 2015, they cost the NHS in England more than ?9.2 billion. | :01:45. | :01:51. | |
Many of those are repeat prescriptions. | :01:52. | :01:56. | |
If you do not need an item, it is your duty to protect | :01:57. | :02:01. | |
the NHS and, actually, if I do not need it, | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
But a system which relies on honesty is also open to abuse. | :02:05. | :02:12. | |
That is what I am worried is happening in some | :02:13. | :02:14. | |
We are all familiar with auction websites like eBay. | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
It means you can virtually buy and sell anything these days. | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
I am worried that that is exactly what some people are doing. | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
It is a prescription-only drug for treating depression. | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
This guy selling venlafaxine says it was prescribed for his wife. | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
She does not need it, so they have decided to sell it on. | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
But it is not just drugs to treat depression or improve your teeth. | :02:43. | :02:54. | |
It is a drug for treating erectile dysfunction. | :02:55. | :03:01. | |
So why has this guy got eight for sale on eBay? | :03:02. | :03:10. | |
I have ordered a couple through the post, to find out, | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
as well as some other prescription-only | :03:16. | :03:16. | |
This is caverject and it comes in the form of this | :03:17. | :03:24. | |
So, you need to know what you are doing. | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
I asked for proof that these products were genuine and he sent me | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
through this - his repeat prescription. | :03:35. | :03:42. | |
It looks like his doctor is prescribing these to him on | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
the NHS and he is just selling them on. | :03:46. | :03:47. | |
The guy selling his NHS prescription lives in Nottinghamshire and, | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
with it being Friday, I have come up with | :03:52. | :03:53. | |
the perfect reason for coming calling around. | :03:54. | :03:55. | |
I am after something for the weekend. | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
So, secret camera running, I have parked up some distance away. | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
I am hardly through the door and he is | :04:06. | :04:12. | |
Right, but you still get the prescription, | :04:13. | :04:30. | |
I take it you don't pay for your prescriptions? | :04:31. | :04:33. | |
So, the NHS looks after him and he, well, looks after himself. | :04:34. | :04:39. | |
That is 48 boxes a year, costing the NHS about ?500. | :04:40. | :05:02. | |
Each containing an injection, a complete kit. | :05:03. | :05:16. | |
He gets the money and you and I pick up the bill. | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
But ?500 is small change compared to the cost of another | :05:20. | :05:22. | |
NHS prescription I am being offered for sale. | :05:23. | :05:31. | |
I am on my way to meet a man whose prescription drug costs | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
It is a cold Thursday night and he has asked to meet me | :05:35. | :05:42. | |
at a service station car park on the motorway. | :05:43. | :05:48. | |
He's here all right, but he is on the other side of | :05:49. | :06:06. | |
My cameraman is watching my back, as I head across the | :06:07. | :06:10. | |
I thought he would go straight for the cash, but he is covering | :06:11. | :06:26. | |
But it does not take him long to get down to business. | :06:27. | :06:39. | |
The drug he is selling is used to treat arthritis. | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
It can only be prescribed by a hospital specialist. | :06:45. | :06:47. | |
He gets prescribed a box every four weeks. | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
He is also breaking the rules of eBay by listing it. | :06:53. | :07:09. | |
And if I want more, that is no problem. | :07:10. | :07:31. | |
After all, the NHS gives him almost ?10,000 worth | :07:32. | :07:33. | |
OK, target number two and drug number two. | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
The community pharmacist says what they are doing is | :07:39. | :07:51. | |
These are prescription-only medicines which have been | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
prescribed for an individual, for their individual condition. | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
But then, to sell them, for a financial gain for themselves, | :08:01. | :08:02. | |
It is defrauding everybody, because the NHS is for all of us. | :08:03. | :08:08. | |
And it is actually an illegal thing to do. | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
It could also lead to a prison sentence. | :08:16. | :08:22. | |
These are just a few of the prescriptions I have purchased. | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
From prescription toothpaste to antidepressants. | :08:26. | :08:26. | |
Prescribed in good faith by the NHS to patients who are illegally | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
Patients like the man selling his NHS impotence injection. | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
Instead, I got an e-mail from his wife. | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
Yes, she says, we know what we're doing is wrong, | :08:43. | :08:45. | |
but we're just trying to help people out we're | :08:46. | :08:47. | |
not and we're not making much money out of it, anyway. | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
Barely enough, she says, to buy a packet of fags. | :08:51. | :08:53. | |
Do you ever get the feeling someone is missing the point? | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
I have told him I want to buy more of his drugs, but | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
this time, I am not bringing cash, just cameras. | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
I am not really called Steve. I am a reporter for the BBC. | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
I am trying to find out why you are selling NHS prescriptions | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
and pocketing the proceeds. Why are you doing that? | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
But moments later, he gives me a call. | :09:20. | :09:36. | |
So you will not be selling NHS prescriptions any more? | :09:37. | :09:47. | |
Whether or not that is true, I do not know. | :09:48. | :09:54. | |
We may have closed the door on one fraudster's | :09:55. | :10:05. | |
activities, but it is clear he is not the only patient willing | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
Well, eBay has told us that its sellers must comply | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
with the law and they are prohibited from listing prescribed drugs. | :10:14. | :10:16. | |
They say they work in liason with the regulatory agency | :10:17. | :10:19. | |
to remove any such items from sale as soon as they are reported. | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
The pressure on NHS staff and budgets is | :10:27. | :10:29. | |
very much in the headlines, but it is not just about A | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
Inside Out has discovered that the medical treatment | :10:34. | :10:38. | |
you are offered can very much depend on where you live. | :10:39. | :10:40. | |
So, is the NHS still a national health service? | :10:41. | :10:42. | |
Chris Jackson has been investigating. | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
The NHS is facing the most significant financial challenge | :10:50. | :10:51. | |
There are fears that the service we grew up | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
Absolutely, there is a postcode lottery. | :10:58. | :11:06. | |
It is criminal. It is absolutely criminal. | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
This is the start. This is going to get worse. | :11:11. | :11:17. | |
So, is the NHS in danger of ceasing to be a national | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
service, where everyone is entitled to the same care? | :11:21. | :11:22. | |
It is treating more patients, but is it becoming | :11:23. | :11:25. | |
a postcode lottery, where access can depend on where you live? | :11:26. | :11:28. | |
We are going to put that to the test. | :11:29. | :11:38. | |
It feels like my bones are actually screaming at me. | :11:39. | :11:46. | |
33-year-old Ben Franklin has Hepatitis C. | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
The virus can cause life-threatening liver damage. | :11:50. | :11:52. | |
I have been off work since April, I have been off sick. | :11:53. | :11:59. | |
I could also maybe lose the flat over my head. | :12:00. | :12:02. | |
There are new drugs that could potentially cure | :12:03. | :12:04. | |
But they are expensive and rationed. Ben has been denied them. | :12:05. | :12:12. | |
All I got was told to wait, because basically my liver | :12:13. | :12:15. | |
That made me want to go out and get absolutely wasted and ruin my liver, | :12:16. | :12:19. | |
I would not do that, but would not be surprised | :12:20. | :12:26. | |
The money is there for just over 10,000 treatments. | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
It is claimed that means there are no queues in parts of the | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
north and long waits in places like London. | :12:37. | :12:39. | |
Two people with exactly the same state of liver damage can | :12:40. | :12:42. | |
present themselves in different parts of the country. | :12:43. | :12:43. | |
In one, they will be able to walk in and get | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
hepatitis C treatment immediately, get cured. | :12:47. | :12:49. | |
In another part of the country they may be told sorry, | :12:50. | :12:52. | |
NHS England said they were regularly reallocating unused hepatitis C | :12:53. | :13:00. | |
treatments to places with waiting lists. | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
The number of patients treated will increase by 25% next year. | :13:05. | :13:17. | |
The fact that it is down to money upsets me the most. | :13:18. | :13:20. | |
So, Ben is taking the risk of treating himself, | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
with cheaper copies of the new drugs. | :13:25. | :13:28. | |
The fact that I have had to pay for my treatment, it is criminal. | :13:29. | :13:41. | |
Ben is hoping the generic drugs will cure him within a matter of weeks. | :13:42. | :14:03. | |
around 1,000 people in Britain may have bought the drugs abroad. | :14:04. | :14:16. | |
If you go outside, there is halos around the lights. | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
I cannot go up or down stairs with any kind of confidence. | :14:19. | :14:34. | |
Cataracts are meant to be treated within four months of referral. | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
Gloria, who lives in the North East, says she has been waiting seven. | :14:39. | :14:43. | |
It is too long, because there is such potential for accidents. | :14:44. | :14:47. | |
And there is such a change in the person's mood. | :14:48. | :14:55. | |
If Gloria has lived in Luton, her wait could have been | :14:56. | :14:57. | |
as little as 15 days. A postcode lottery? | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
Absolutely there is a postcode lottery. | :15:01. | :15:02. | |
It is about some places in England having poor | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
systems, having budgetary pressures and deprioritising cataract surgery. | :15:08. | :15:09. | |
That does not feel too national to me. | :15:10. | :15:22. | |
Gloria expects to get her operation later this month. | :15:23. | :15:24. | |
It really makes me angry, because I think that it is | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
almost like the survival of the fittest. | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
It is claimed some are delaying treatments like cataract surgery | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
Others are requiring patients to lose weight | :15:36. | :15:37. | |
before getting operations like hip replacements. | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
Postponing an operation in these circumstances | :15:44. | :15:45. | |
While the CCGs say that can be clinically justified, the | :15:46. | :15:52. | |
Royal College of Surgeons says it cannot. | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
There's very good evidence that people are now not | :15:57. | :15:58. | |
getting elective operations, which they sometimes | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
desperately require, simply because of | :16:04. | :16:05. | |
It is up to the clinicians to decide who should get what treatment. | :16:06. | :16:12. | |
Therefore, a bureaucratic system which produces a | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
blanket ban, we think, is morally wrong. | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
It is also claimed that new systems for vetting appointments | :16:20. | :16:21. | |
for specialists are another form of rationing. | :16:22. | :16:26. | |
Why are they treating their patients with such contempt? | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
Last month, MPs complained about a private company | :16:31. | :16:32. | |
being paid ?10 for every GP referral they stopped. | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
This is rationing by the back door and has | :16:38. | :16:39. | |
the potential to compromise patient safety. | :16:40. | :16:42. | |
The same private company overseas referrals in North Tyneside. | :16:43. | :16:44. | |
We have spoken to doctors who say the system is putting patients | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
The GPs, who fear speaking out, have told us that cancer | :16:50. | :16:56. | |
In a statement, North Tyneside CCG said | :16:57. | :17:24. | |
there was no evidence that the system caused | :17:25. | :17:26. | |
They said cancer referrals do not go through the | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
system and are made directly to hospital. | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
The number of referrals knocked back to GPs in England | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
You can see the details of our research online. | :17:38. | :17:45. | |
Shortage and regional difference have always been | :17:46. | :17:46. | |
Today, the differences could get much worse. | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
The NHS is under an unprecedented level of pressure at the moment. | :17:54. | :17:56. | |
If it does not get more funding, waiting times are | :17:57. | :17:58. | |
going to get longer and the quality of patient care is going to suffer. | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
So, we will see different decisions getting taken in different parts of | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
the country and different services being available to patients. | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
So, is the NHS still a national service? | :18:11. | :18:12. | |
One of our most prominent medics is clear. | :18:13. | :18:19. | |
No, it is not a national service. It is now a local health service. | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
I think it matters because leads to inequality in health care. | :18:24. | :18:25. | |
So, some people will get health care free and others will not. | :18:26. | :18:29. | |
In a statement, the Department of Health told us... | :18:30. | :18:31. | |
Far from rationing, more people than ever are getting treatment. | :18:32. | :18:42. | |
3,261 more cancer patients are being seen every day. | :18:43. | :18:45. | |
We asked the Health Secretary and NHS England for an interview. | :18:46. | :18:48. | |
The people actually paying for NHS services, | :18:49. | :18:51. | |
the clinical commissioners, did agree to speak to us. | :18:52. | :18:54. | |
variations, based on the need of the population. | :18:55. | :18:58. | |
Demographically, the population varies quite significantly, | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
from town to rural and county to county. | :19:02. | :19:03. | |
It is really important that we commission and respond to the | :19:04. | :19:06. | |
needs of that population on a local basis. | :19:07. | :19:09. | |
It is all about making sure that pathway is correct. | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
We do not want to squander any money. | :19:15. | :19:16. | |
We have limited resources so it is really | :19:17. | :19:18. | |
important we spend most effectively and get the best value for | :19:19. | :19:21. | |
For those forced into taking their own action, rationing | :19:22. | :19:29. | |
Now, the decision of what the NHS can | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
Parts of Nottinghamshire are likely to become the first in the East | :19:36. | :19:43. | |
Midlands to stop funding so-called test-tube babies. | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
Health bosses say IVF is low priority and insist | :19:50. | :19:51. | |
But as Rob Sissons has been finding out, | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
that is not how couples who have benefited from one of the miracles | :19:58. | :20:00. | |
There is never a dull moment in this family. | :20:01. | :20:11. | |
She is the child that Kelly and Tim thought they would never have. | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
Most parents think their children are priceless, of course, | :20:18. | :20:19. | |
but if you wanted to put a price on Imogen, you could. | :20:20. | :20:23. | |
Kelly is infertile and they had to pay for IVF fertility | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
treatment because of where they live. | :20:29. | :20:34. | |
When you are a young couple, you do not have the sort of money. | :20:35. | :20:37. | |
They had to remortgage and now face going into even more debt. | :20:38. | :20:46. | |
If it could've happened naturally, we would | :20:47. | :20:47. | |
definitely have had two or three children. | :20:48. | :20:49. | |
So, we bit the bullet and decided to go for it again. | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
We will be following the couple through the latest round of IVF. | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
A few miles away in Nottingham, parents it's been a very | :21:01. | :21:02. | |
different story for a different pair of parents. | :21:03. | :21:06. | |
Their son Matthew did not cost them a penny. | :21:07. | :21:09. | |
And we were extremely happy that it worked first time. | :21:10. | :21:21. | |
I think it is strange that there is a lack | :21:22. | :21:24. | |
We have been looking on this website this morning and | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
there are some areas where you have three cycles, but in the East | :21:28. | :21:30. | |
The couple know they are lucky, but are | :21:31. | :21:40. | |
worried that others may feel cheated by the so-called postcode lottery. | :21:41. | :21:49. | |
It gets to a stage, with the subset of people who cannot conceive | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
naturally, that only the really rich will be able to have children. | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
If somebody can have three goes and someone else has no goas, | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
If everybody had one go, that would be more sensible. | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
It is clear that whether you get NHS funding or not very much depends on | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
If Tim and Kelly had moved from Staffordshire | :22:08. | :22:10. | |
to the neighbouring county of Derbyshire, their | :22:11. | :22:11. | |
first IVF baby would have been paid for. | :22:12. | :22:14. | |
It is something which baffles couples. | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
It also some irritates fertility experts. | :22:20. | :22:24. | |
One of them is Simon, a doctor at Care in Nottingham. | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
who worked alongside the team which created the first IVF baby, | :22:31. | :22:32. | |
Since then, more than 250,000 IVF babies have been born in | :22:33. | :22:40. | |
We have an understanding of the medical condition that we did not | :22:41. | :22:49. | |
Live birth rates here have increased enormously, really, when | :22:50. | :22:56. | |
In 1991, it was about 14% live birth rate. | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
Today, the national average is double that. | :23:02. | :23:09. | |
So, techniques are moving forward, but | :23:10. | :23:11. | |
the doctor fears funding is going backwards. | :23:12. | :23:13. | |
Controversially, health bosses in parts of Notts are now proposing | :23:14. | :23:15. | |
proposing to scrap IVF treatment on the NHS. | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
We think there should be one of two treatment cycles for everybody. | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
I think it matters because there are knock-on effects | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
up and down the country for decisions which are made. | :23:27. | :23:28. | |
Once it affects patients, I think it is a real worry. | :23:29. | :23:34. | |
Her IVF journey starts in the kitchen. | :23:35. | :23:43. | |
The hormone injections are designed to stimulate production of | :23:44. | :23:50. | |
They are back at Care Fertility in Nottingham. | :23:51. | :23:58. | |
It is just the unknown. You do not know the answer. You do not know | :23:59. | :24:27. | |
what is going to happen. You have started these stimulation drugs. How | :24:28. | :24:34. | |
is that going? We know about nor this time about how it is going. It | :24:35. | :24:43. | |
can be some side effects. An ultrasound scans suggest the | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
injections are working. This is one of the follicles. So far, so good. | :24:50. | :25:00. | |
The treatment costs about ?3000 for every cycle. Health bosses in this | :25:01. | :25:04. | |
part of the world are trying to save ?20 million. Scrapping IVF funding | :25:05. | :25:15. | |
could save ?300,000 a year. We have to think about how we use of rate | :25:16. | :25:22. | |
poems we are budgeted. You could be denying people the chance who have | :25:23. | :25:31. | |
the chance of conceiving only IVF through. That is what makes things | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
more difficult. The couple have returned to the fertility clinic. | :25:39. | :25:49. | |
The other removing eggs. The wiggle. One more follicle and we are done. | :25:50. | :26:03. | |
You have done really well. We have got six eggs. I am over the moon. | :26:04. | :26:15. | |
Everything is going really well. At the end of the day, it is not about | :26:16. | :26:24. | |
numbers, but about quality. I have had patients with 20 eggs who have | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
not had a baby and other patients who have had just won and they have | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
had their baby. Next, the moment of fertilisation. If the eggs meet | :26:34. | :26:41. | |
200,000 of his spear. 24-hour Slater, the report for good quality | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
eggs. One is implanted than the other three are frozen. She will | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
know if she is pregnant in a few weeks. | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
The proposals to cut funding IVF for will affect couples around the | :26:56. | :27:06. | |
region. A few weeks into the consultation, water is getting round | :27:07. | :27:09. | |
and not everyone thinks it is a bad idea. I do not think we should be | :27:10. | :27:15. | |
funding it at the moment. We have got such financial difficulties. We | :27:16. | :27:22. | |
could not of children had to adopt. If you want to have IVF, I do not | :27:23. | :27:29. | |
think why we should have to pay for it. I think they should fund it. I | :27:30. | :27:39. | |
do not think it is very good. Health bosses say they want to hear what | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
everyone has two C before making a final decision. -- to see. The | :27:44. | :27:52. | |
anxious wait is over, but it is bad news. Unfortunately, we did not get | :27:53. | :28:00. | |
to the point where we had to take a pregnancy test. It did not work this | :28:01. | :28:06. | |
time. But with the frozen embryos, they still have a chance. We will | :28:07. | :28:12. | |
keep trying. We have got three more. We will keep going for it. They are | :28:13. | :28:22. | |
going to have a break before they have another go at IVF. | :28:23. | :28:30. | |
That decision is expected next month. That is all from us this | :28:31. | :28:33. | |
week. On the next Inside Out East | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
Midlands, the Derbyshire couple who claim the adoption of their two | :28:38. | :28:39. | |
children was an appalling You just stop living, | :28:40. | :28:42. | |
because you are ripped apart. Inside Out East Midlands at 7:30pm | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
on Monday on BBC One. Hello, I'm Louisa Preston | :28:47. | :29:05. | |
with your 90 second update. 30 British tourists shot | :29:06. | :29:08. | |
dead in Tunisia in 2015. | :29:09. | :29:11. |