22/09/2014 Inside Out East

The reality of living next door to noisy neighbours. Tonight, we ask

what is a reasonable level of noise to expect from your neighbotrs? That

isn't the full effect. We explain how the Scottish independence vote

will affect us in the East of England. People will ask thdmselves,

why is it if it is appropri`te for Edinburgh to have additional powers

and I wasn't not appropriatd for cities like Cambridge, Norwhch or

Milton Keynes? And the race against time to protect the secrets of a

17th`century shipwreck off Southend. Revealing the stories that latter

closer to home, that is tonhght s Inside Out.

Hello, I'm in Westcliff on Sea. Last year, there were 15,000 complaints

about noise. Most of the tile, these complaints are resolved but

sometimes, neighbours just cannot reach an agreement. I have been to

two villages in Suffolk where the residents say that noise from their

neighbours is just unreason`ble Fancy living the dream

of rural tranquillity? But what if the reality means

living next door to 200 of these? Chris and Julie Saunders sax they

have done that for seven ye`rs. It goes from about 45 seconds up to

two minutes. Sometimes, we've had several hours. When we last

complained, it was three hotrs. There?s a lot of noise that isn t

that loud that is incessant The Saunders claim that

the noise can go on for hours. But the council have said there

isn?t enough evidence to pursue We?ve kept a log

on a daily basis recording dvery They issued a statutory nothce

so they recognised it was an issue then, but now they say it

has reduced sufficiently th`t it is The dogs who live next door

are Huskies like these ones. They are bred for pulling sleds and

are more at home in snow`covered Now I?ve been round to see

the owners of the huskies and they?ve told me they ard doing

all they can to make sure They say they have changed

the feeding times of the huskies to keep the disturbance

to a minimum and to be honest we?ve been here quite some time and

so far it has been pretty qtiet The owners also told us thex put

a stop to any noise as quickly as possible

and that huskies cannot maintain But the Saunders say

when the howling does happen, So you see when we stand here

and sit in the garden you c`n?t have I can?t actually hear you. They

are just here. See the tarp`ulin. So what is a reasonable amotnt

of noise to expect to hear, People living in this Suffolk

village say they are plagued After five years of squawking, the

Griffiths are at their wits end When we moved

in, we said this is our fordver house and now we call it a home

from hell on occasions, bec`use A few doors down from the Griffiths

home is a former pig farm, which is Now Mr Hammond who owns these

parrots has agreed to let us We have been here for about an hour

and a half and I reckon this is as loud as it has been.

Mr Hammond has applied for planning permission to keep

If they were to give permission we would like to see them monitored

very closely to make sure that sound proofing was put in

and they would keep an eye on it and they would allow local people to

You live in the countryside, you expect some noises,

you?ll hear a tractor, you?ll hear a cockerel, you?ll hear

dogs barking. Surely this is just another noise added into thd mix?

We?ve had sleepless nights. We?ve been kept awake late.

And it?s anything from half past four in the morning through till 5

o?clock and when you?ve been working all week and it could be

a weekday and at weekends, xou are woken up by the parrot noisd.

Mr Hammond doesn?t want to talk about the complaints but told us he

They don?t make much noise during the day.

There are birds in there. Wd have aviaries. This year, we are thinking

about putting up another bahl. At that made a difference?

Keith Groves' garden backs onto the parrots.

It seems like such a shame that you don't use the cinema. It is just so

intolerable when the parrots start to make a noise. It just gods on and

on. Even when it is quiet, like it is at the moment, well therd's just

waiting, on edge, thinking when is it going to again? That is why you

cannot enjoy this part of your garden. That's it. In the stmmer

house, as you can see. This is the end of our garden. You can see over

the hedge, there is a pig shared that now houses hundreds of parrots.

The noise coming out from it seems to go around the straw bales that

you might be able to see thdre. We have been there and seen those. He

says he has put them up to lake the noise level is less. You ard saying

they don't work. No, no, it doesn't. The only way to prove

a noise is bad enough to warrant preventative action,

is with monitoring equipment. An independent acoustics consultant

is installing one at the Grhffiths. We will be able to compare the

noises now. That is quite qtiet There is only one going, rather than

200. After four days of monitoring,

the acoustics consultant delivers The levels that we?ve measured on

their own are not that diffdrent to the levels that you are currently

experiencing from the natur`l birds. But it is the character

of the noise that is the thhng that So in my opinion the sorts

of levels that we are getting, although they are similar, they are

much more likely to be intrtsive. Which is exactly what

we have been saying. It is like scratching metal.

That?s the nearest thing th`t I ve It is a sound that is not n`tural,

it is not what we expect. We are used to,

from birth hearing birds singing, wood pigeons coo`ing

and the other sounds that wd hear. But we are, here in the UK,

not used to hearing macaws or Also, the noise they make h`ppens to

be very alarming, it is a screech sound and it and one?s natural

reaction on hearing it is an alarm The planning decision about the

parrots will be made by Mid`Suffolk Environmental health officers

at the same council are dealing with These are the offices of

Mid Suffolk District Council. Now we did ask them

for an interview but they told us They say, "Mid Suffolk District

Council takes all complaints of alleged noise nuisance sdriously

and where evidence of excessive and unreasonable activities can be

proved, we will take the appropriate The council, I suppose the same as

the Crown Prosecution Service and the police, will only bring a case

if they think it has got validity and they think it will get far

enough, on the basis of not wasting people?s time and money,

which I do recognise but this could set a preceddnt

for this kind of disturbancd. If there is something you think we

should be looking into, send us a treat. You are watching Inshde Out

for the East of England. We jointly underwater archaeologists unlocking

the secrets of a 17th`century shipwreck off Southend.

Last week's independence vote in Scotland will make a difference

Most of the debates before the vote were about the changes

north of the border, but without Scotland, the UK changes as well.

Richard Bond has been finding out what that may mean for us in the

East. Even though Scotland voted to stay

in the union, how the rest of the UK is run will change

and that will affect us herd. Our region has

a bigger population than Scotland and a bigger economy, well,

if you leave out North Sea oil, so But one of our problems is we don?t

have a strong regional identity I?m taking a journey from the one of

the first place where devolution, the transfer

of power away from Westminster, Will England fragment into regions

and cities, and if that happens will If we were to get more power

for the East what would that mean and even more basically than that,

could we even agree what This is Rockingham Castle,

near Corby. As its history proves, Government

hasn?t always been based in London. The king or monarch of the day moved

round the country and so his parliament, for want of a bdtter

description, became wherever he was and he gathered his court around him

and so when the monarch of the day was at Rockingham,

it became the parliament of the day so it had signifhcant

importance at that particul`r time. So Rockingham in a sense was

a seat of regional Government? Yes, I think you could easily

describe it as that and in fact if one looked at the current shtuation

we have with the vote it wotld have been interesting had parlialent

moved periodically to Scotl`nd and sat in Scotland rather than always

sitting in Westminster then there mhght be

a more benevolent view from north Today Rockingham is

a tourist attraction. A regional identity could

help it attract visitors. So does Andrew want more regional

government with its own powdr If there was a regional govdrnment

or assembly for want of I would be right on the edgd

of that, regardless of the amount of money that body would

have to support tourism and bring visitors to the area from London

they would naturally be drawn to the So I think the idea of regional

assemblies, governments whatever you like to call them, is to sole extent

divisive because there is always somebody who is on a boundary and it

is a problem we?ve had in tourism for years in this country that

tourism is run by county, and yet we sit on the edge of a county and

we?re neither one thing or `nother. So devolution to regional ldvel

wouldn?t help Rockingham. But a local government think tank

says power can be devolved to People will ask themselves puite

reasonably, why is it, if it is appropriate for Edhnburgh

to have additional powers over Why isn?t it appropriate

for cities like Cambridge or Norwich So devolution in the English Regions

might be a better way Absolutely, though I do not

like the word devolution. We?ll hear a lot about an English

Parliament over the coming weeks but actually when we?ve offdred

people constitutional choicds like elected mayors, police commhssioners

or regional assemblies, thex have either been rejected or met with

a huge amount of indifference. John Major once said

if the answer is more polithcians We already have, across England

and Wales, local councils, local councillors, give thel

the ability to raise money locally to spend money locally, to control

public services in their arda. If we can do that,

we start to give people a sdnse that they have an influence, that they

have an ability to determind what And that is how we start to address

the questions that Scotland raises. In Scotland, the country?s hdentity

is clear and Scots care abott it. That?s difficult to reproduce

in a region as varied as thd East But our cities,

they have an identity. Cambridge is one the most

recognisable places in the region. Cambridge has already got some

devolved powers because of the Government?s so`calldd city

deal to stimulate economic growth. It gives us the power to move on,

but it is essentially within a set of rules that Whitehall lays

down so it has severe limit`tions, and it doesn?t actually cre`te

the partnership with Why would councils do the job

better than central governmdnt? Westminster and Whitehall are

continuously busy, and so they are What's missing is a mind`set

are not thinking East England. What extra powers would you

like to have? Well we don't want a lot,

the ability to work with our neighbouring councils

on housing, on transport, on economic development and on issues

like schools and quality of life. And what we would like is

the freedom to get on and ddliver. Maybe it's no surprise that local

politicians would like more power, but what do people

in business think? I've come to a small technology

firm on the edge of Cambridge. There's seven of us working here

and we add interactivity to paper, so you can touch these postdrs

and they make some noise. I think if we had more power

in Cambridge then we could create even more of

a sense that we can do great things here, but I don?t think that is good

because that can prevent people If that prevents people

from having a go, that's not good. Everyone needs to feel empowered,

that what they do makes You think Cambridge is alre`dy

a favoured place. If it got more powers, would it

make problems for other places? I think so, I think there would be

a sense of haves and have nots. In other cities, even

around this region, you get a sense well we can't do that here because

that's what they do in Cambridge, It's that sense of power it's that

sense of identity, the sensd that And a sense of pride

in your community, in the area that That sense of pride is what made

almost half of Scotland votd for independence but there is r`rely

such passion shown in English votes. That's because thousands

of people moved from Scotland to Two months ago, at the

Corby Highland Games the town took It was'nae a vote

against independence. It was a vote that

the whole country needs to change, for it to be a union,

not dictated to by Westminster. And what did you think

of the result? But then, better the devil xou

know than the devil you don?t. At the end of the day,

whatever concessions they ghve to Scotland, hopefully we?ll rdceive

a bit in return. That's what people

are concerned about. You can't give to one country

without giving us something back My journey has brought me b`ck to

Northamptonshire, And the referendum might me`n that

we return to more local govdrnment I grew up not too far from here and

we always did come to this beach. What I'm didn't realise is that just

out there is one of the most important 17th`century shipwrecks in

England. It is in danger of being destroyed by the seat. So English

Heritage has started a salv`ge operation to recover as manx

artefacts as possible beford it is lost forever. It is washing away. It

is the last chance opportunhty. It is an important site, it is in a

lovely area. It makes it all the more exciting. It is like the Mary

Rose. It is the Mary Rose of the Thames history. The year was 16 5.

It set off from Chatham dockyard. The whole thing exploded and now 350

years later, it is still thdre. She was on a pleasure cruisd

so maybe you've got people sat out at breakfast eating their s`usage

sandwiches and suddenly there was English Heritage hope that there

will be some light shed on by it exploded. Many may be that ht was a

catastrophic explosion, and the best guess is that the marriage seem ``

magazine blew up. It's possible that

the crew were preparing for a gun salute for the Admiral, which is why

there might have been gunpowder moving around, but that's p`rt of

the mystery that we hope to solve Dredging work taking place

on this stretch of the Thamds for the new London Gateway port has

been altering the river's behaviour, giving the salvage

project a real sense of urgdncy Shipwreck sites,

when they're buried underne`th the sediment then they're protected from

biological and chemical dec`y.. it's only now that

the bed level is beginning to move and find a new equilibrium then it's

becoming exposed and is at risk This is

a really difficult diving job. This being the Thames the vhsibility

down there is really poor and of course we are slap bang hn the

middle of a very busy shipphng lane. We were diving in the Thames

for pleasure. I like maritime history anyway `

especially locally ` so I'd actually The salvage project is giving local

fishmonger and hobby diver Steve It's like a dream come true

because they've offered me an excavation license to work with

professional archaeologists. I do feel

like I'm a Sunday league footballer being trained up by the Preliership

` that's how I can describe it! The tide patterns here mean that

only a single hour's diving can be done each day, so Steve `nd the

team have to make the most of it. Diver one, this is topside ? can

you give me an aircheck ple`se? Most divers wouldn't even dhve

the Thames. it's something we find a ch`llenge,

it's something I've always wanted to do really ? to dive wherd no one

else has really been diving. The main aim of these dives is to

explore and map out the wreck, in preparation for larger`scale

salvage operations next year. Today we've been finishing our

second week on the site continuing the excavation of trenches we

started and really been getting into Now we've been getting up

into cabins, we've found a gun deck, probably the lower gun

deck, and parts of a gun carriage on that deck so we're getting

into the interesting area of the Mapping out

the wreck is crucial becausd there are no surviving plans or phctures

of the interior of the London. In fact, there's only one available

image of the ship ? a sketch We can see that it was

a very fearsome vessel with its gun decks ? but we can also see the ship

was a symbol of national and to The London was one of the l`rgest

and most prestigious ships hn It was one

of only three second`rate ships that were built. The other two no longer

exist so that shows how important The London was built at a thme when

the English Navy was first starting The number of ships in the

Royal Navy went from 39 to 056, this was a really significant

increase and put the English Navy on a par with its immediate rivals

France and the Netherlands. The London has another clail to

historical fame ? during the Restoration it w`s part

of the force that picked up Charles II from Holland and brought him

back to England to be crowndd King. With their one`hour dive window

about to close, Steve and marine archaeologhst

Dan Pascoe return to the surface. And they've not come

up empty handed. We have a mixture

of musket balls and pistol shot So it's pointing towards maxbe

somewhere in The most amazing thing's

the wood ? so well preserved, That's the great thing about Thames

? it's got all these fine shlt And when we start to excavate it's

coming out as pristine surf`ces Today's finds are being takdn to

the Southend Pier, where local volunteers are assembling to help

conserve and record the artefacts retrieved in recent

days, before they are eventtally I've recruited 15 mostly local

volunteers ? we've trained them in preventive conservation `nd find

sorting of marine archaeology. And

at a later stage they'll be helping us with research and installation

of the objects for display. In here we've got some clay

pipes which we've literally I think it's such an interesting

ship the fact that it was hht is part of local history on thd Thames

Estuary and the fact that you're here right on the front lind as soon

as its brought up from the water I think is a once

in a lifetime opportunity to do It's local heritage very much

although it's of national ilportance and significance,

the local people of Southend really are taking it to their hearts and

they're feeling quite proud of it. Before the artefacts can go

on display at Southend's Museum first they've got to be properly

cleaned up and examined by an expert, and that work happens

here ? at the English Herit`ge Looking at artefacts really brings

a personal side to the storx of the whole shipwreck? Angdla

Middleton has been painstakhngly conserving the first hundred or

so finds from the London. They arrive wet and first of all we

record them, we photograph them we x`ray certain artefacts, we wash

them and we put them in fresh water. So what do we have here

in the wet section? We have a wooden pulley block that

still contains remnants of the rope. So that could have been up

in the rigging or something, I think I like the callipers best.

they were encased So this came in a great big lump

and you chiselled away at it? What I particularly

like is the detail of the grading. It's a meastring

tool for measuring the size of. . We have a little seal with

the griffin on it. Whenever you needed to seal

a document stamp it that wax, the end bit could be used to sttff your

pipe with You've got your phpe and It is very exciting to work on the

material ? it's very interesting, especially the organics artdfacts

are fascinating for us to work on. These early finds from the wreck

are just the tip of the iceberg In the months ahead,

the dive teams will recover many more artefacts that reveal what life

was like on the London ? and perhaps shed light on the mystery of its

devastating explosion back hn 1 65. What is great is that many of the

artefacts that have been salvaged will end up the Mac `` Musetm in

Southend. You can catch up with me on twitter. Might e`mail is below. I

will see you next week when I will be revealing these stories from the

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