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This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find | :01:26. | :01:36. | |
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upsetting. This is Winterbourne View - once a private hospital near | :01:39. | :01:41. | |
Bristol, that claimed to care... Now, notorious for the abuse of | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
some of the most vulnerable people in society. It took an undercover | :01:45. | :01:48. | |
Panorama investigation to expose the ugly truth... ..that showed, | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
two of the patients, Simone... ..and Simon, facing some of the | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
most disturbing abuse. Sadly, this is not specific to | :01:55. | :01:59. | |
Winterbourne View. This is happening in many, many other care | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
homes. Tonight, with exclusive access to their records, we reveal | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
the mistreatment they've faced elsewhere in the care system. | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
though this isn't the same as Winterbourne View, it's still wrong. | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
And we reveal the trainer who eyewitnesses say advised, if all | :02:16. | :02:26. | |
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else fails, bring down a patient with a kick. If a person was too | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
big to put on the floor to restrain, to kick them in the balls. Tonight, | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
Panorama asks, have we really learnt from the hospital that | :02:33. | :02:43. | |
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Are you filming? Simon has moderate learning disabilities. Please be | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
nice to my mum. Be nice to your mum? OK. Yes. And the dog. In some | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
ways he's like a child. In other ways, Simon's like any 38-year-old. | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
You have a visitor. Ah, a visitor. With support, he now lives just a | :03:05. | :03:14. | |
short distance from his mother, Ann. This is the cameraman. I know he is. | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
You all right? OK. I have got some heavy blocks and things, I thought | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
you might help... Yeah. But a year and a half ago, life was very | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
different. He was locked in a secure hospital... Winterbourne | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
View, near Bristol. Gently, gently Only now is he telling his family | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
all that happened there. Simon, please pull your trousers up, mate. | :03:32. | :03:39. | |
They would put him in a cold shower. Let go when you're asked. What was | :03:39. | :03:42. | |
that for? They would put his head down the toilet, they would | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
physically hit him. Let go when you are asked. Look, look - this is how. | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
Ow! Ow! ..and restrain him. stop fighting at us all! In court | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
last week, Wayne Rogers - often the ring-leader - and ten others were | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
sentenced for the ill-treatment and neglect of patients. He's been | :03:58. | :04:04. | |
jailed for two years, the longest punishment handed down. The | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
prosecutions were based entirely on secret filming by an undercover | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
Panorama reporter. Evidence gathered during just 16 shifts with | :04:11. | :04:21. | |
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Set on an industrial estate close to the M4 near Bristol, | :04:24. | :04:29. | |
Winterbourne View was owned by a private company,Castlebeck. But it | :04:29. | :04:33. | |
was funded by public money. Patients here were out of sight, | :04:33. | :04:43. | |
That's the conclusion of Margaret Flynn, the joint author of the most | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
in-depth report into the abuse at Winterbourne View. After it closed, | :04:48. | :04:51. | |
she spoke to former patients, changing their names to protect | :04:51. | :05:00. | |
Patients were traumatised, in places where we should be most safe | :05:00. | :05:10. | |
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- in our bedrooms and in our One former patient whose fictional | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
name is Tom has been so distressed, he has ceased to use a toilet, he's | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
urinating in cups because he was so terrified of what happened to him | :05:24. | :05:34. | |
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when he used his own bathroom and This is the care home which Simon | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
moved into when he was 18. He's happy here. He's where his family | :05:51. | :05:57. | |
have always wanted him to be, near them. So how did he end up at | :05:57. | :06:03. | |
Winterbourne View? Simon had for Winterbourne View? Simon had for | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
some time been exhibiting, er, a more disturbed sort of behaviour. | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
And the care home where he was and had been for many years had put on | :06:11. | :06:18. | |
additional staff to cope. The care home estimated it needed an extra | :06:18. | :06:23. | |
�600 a week to pay for the staff Simon needed at busy times. Before | :06:23. | :06:25. | |
the local council, Wiltshire, made a decision on funding, doctors were | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
asked to assess Simon. But not at home, in a hospital. When we | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
questioned that, they told us that they would actually section Simon | :06:35. | :06:41. | |
if we didn't agree to it. They would literally come along with an | :06:41. | :06:51. | |
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Wiltshire NHS and council say people aren't deprived of their | :07:00. | :07:04. | |
liberty under the Mental Health Act, as a threat. It's only ever done on | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
clinical need. For years the national policy has been for people | :07:07. | :07:12. | |
with learning disabilities to be cared for in the community. That | :07:12. | :07:18. | |
care is bought by commissioners on behalf of councils and the NHS. | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
are you, Simon, are you all right? Fine. But when it comes to | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
challenging behaviour, experts say hospitals, that should be the last | :07:24. | :07:28. | |
resort, are used too frequently. Our contact with the families | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
confirmed that had there been some some assistance for their daughters | :07:31. | :07:38. | |
and sons when they were living in the community. Just a little bit | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
more help, then they could have managed and they could have | :07:41. | :07:48. | |
Simon's mother was told his assessment wouldn't be long just | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
three to six months. But it's not uncommon for people with learning | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
disabilities, who end up in hospital, to be there for between | :07:56. | :08:03. | |
five and seven years. Critics call it warehousing. Simon's family felt | :08:03. | :08:07. | |
they were left with no choice. The next stop for him would be a | :08:08. | :08:12. | |
hospital. But before he arrived here at Winterbourne View, he was | :08:12. | :08:17. | |
sent to two other hospitals first. This is the untold story of a | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
journey that Simon never wanted to take. After 16 years in one care | :08:22. | :08:25. | |
home, Simon found himself being moved from locked hospital to | :08:25. | :08:32. | |
locked hospital. His behaviour deteriorated. For the first time he | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
was being physically restrained regularly - at times for something | :08:34. | :08:41. | |
like trying to hug. And doctors now described him as dangerous. What do | :08:41. | :08:47. | |
you think about that shift in how Simon was viewed? It's really hard | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
to understand how professional people actually never questioned | :08:49. | :08:56. | |
whether it was something they were doing. It was always assumed that | :08:56. | :09:03. | |
it was Simon's behaviour that was causing the problems. Sue Armstrong | :09:03. | :09:06. | |
is an advocate who speaks on behalf of people who find it hard to | :09:06. | :09:13. | |
communicate, like Simon. She now runs her own team of advocates, but | :09:13. | :09:19. | |
in 2009, worked in Wiltshire. Sue was asked to see Simon by his | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
mother. He thought he was being punished, he thought he'd been | :09:23. | :09:28. | |
naughty, in his words. He thought that he'd been taken away from his | :09:28. | :09:36. | |
family and his friends. He was leading a very solitary life. | :09:36. | :09:41. | |
had now been away from his home for nine months. He was at his second | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
Wiltshire hospital Postern House, run by the NHS. It's where Sue | :09:44. | :09:48. | |
visited him. And he told her something worrying. He said he'd | :09:48. | :09:58. | |
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He told me straight away that he'd been hit and he was pointing to his | :10:04. | :10:09. | |
head and pointing to his body. I said, "Simon, who's hit you?" And | :10:09. | :10:16. | |
he told me the name of the staff member. And he said it wasn't the | :10:16. | :10:19. | |
first time. Panorama has obtained records and notes that give us an | :10:19. | :10:22. | |
extraordinary insight into Simon's journey through the system. And | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
they reveal what happened at Postern. To our surprise, it also | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
showed how little his family were told. We've been through some of | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
Simon's papers at Postern House and we're aware of three allegations of | :10:35. | :10:44. | |
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mistreatment. And one worrying injury to Simon. One that Simon had | :10:46. | :10:49. | |
been frogmarched with his arm behind his back to his room, | :10:49. | :10:51. | |
another where he was being restrained inappropriately with | :10:51. | :10:59. | |
someone lying across his chest, and a third incident. Then in addition | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
to that, there was where he had the cut on his head - were you actually | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
told about what happened? No, no - the only one that subsequently came | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
to light after Sue, the advocate, made her investigations was the one | :11:10. | :11:17. | |
where Simon was restrained on the floor. I had no idea about the | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
others, absolutely none. So no-one told you? No-one told us nobody | :11:20. | :11:25. | |
informed us, I did not realise it was that bad. Sue wanted an | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
investigation into whether Simon had been hit and into the injury. | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
There was a meeting at Postern House. Despite being Simon's | :11:33. | :11:37. | |
advocate, she wasn't invited, neither was his family. And within | :11:37. | :11:42. | |
days, Simon was moved to Winterbourne View. As I'm standing | :11:42. | :11:51. | |
back here now, I feel choked. I felt that they whisked him away to | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
Winterbourne View to try and deflect the investigation into | :11:53. | :12:03. | |
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Postern. And had that happened, then he may never have gone to | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
Winterbourne View, and what must have been so frightening may not | :12:08. | :12:17. | |
have happened. That was January 2010. His family may not have known, | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
but Simon's notes show two people were disciplined over the first two | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
incidents. Now, Wiltshire Council examined the third - and the cut to | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
Simon's head. It meant questioning him at Winterbourne View. The | :12:28. | :12:32. | |
interview notes make particularly interesting reading for his mother. | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
I have got Simon Tovey and... you note who was supporting him? | :12:36. | :12:46. | |
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Yes - Wayne Rogers... ..who was one of the main ring leaders in | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
Winterbourne View. Later, our secret filming would show Wayne | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
Rogers targeting Simon, often. Wayne! For many people with | :12:59. | :13:03. | |
learning disabilities, like Simon, telling a clear story can be hard. | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
Simon... Yeah. Stand up, please. Others may not have known, but he | :13:08. | :13:10. | |
was being asked about possible abuse, with his current abuser | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
close-by. After the interview, it was decided there wasn't enough | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
evidence of an offence. Both Wiltshire Council and Ridgeway | :13:18. | :13:20. | |
Partnership, the NHS trust that runs Postern, say the incidents | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
were investigated thoroughly, and can't be compared to Winterbourne | :13:23. | :13:30. | |
View. A year after that meeting, our undercover reporter Joe Casey | :13:30. | :13:37. | |
started at Winterbourne View as a support worker. Part of the | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
training was three days' instruction on how to cope with | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
patients when they're physically challenging. New recruits were | :13:45. | :13:55. | |
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taught by the company's own trainer. Andrew Norton was certified to | :14:01. | :14:04. | |
teach a technique known as Maybo. The aim is to re-direct patients in | :14:04. | :14:14. | |
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a way that avoids physical restraint. But three former staff, | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
who went to different sessions, told us he also gave advice not in | :14:34. | :14:37. | |
any handbook. One was Terry Bryan, the nurse who blew the whistle on | :14:37. | :14:42. | |
the abuse at Winterbourne View. Andy said that, if a person was too | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
big to put on the floor to restrain, to kick them in the balls to get | :14:46. | :14:53. | |
them there. I was shocked. No, I've been doing this job for 30-odd | :14:53. | :14:57. | |
years, and first time I ever heard anything like that. Our undercover | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
reporter wasn't told to kick patients in the groin. But we | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
played an audio recording of the advice he was given to Margaret | :15:04. | :15:10. | |
Flynn. If you do resort to using reasonable force, be honest about | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
it. You've got to justify it - he was a lot bigger than me, I could | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
not get his hands off my throat, I thought I was going to die... I | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
tried the Maybo technique and it didn't work, and if I did nothing, | :15:21. | :15:27. | |
I would have died. So I did this and I'll leave it up to your | :15:27. | :15:32. | |
imagination... But you see how that covers everything? It wouldn't be | :15:33. | :15:36. | |
just enough to write, "He had me up against the wall by my throat so I | :15:37. | :15:46. | |
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kneed him in the balls." it is almost a recipe for thuggery. | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
know from some of the injuries sustained by patients that they had | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
been head-butted. So, it is profoundly shocking to hear that | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
whatever it takes his fine, and that people were trained in such | :16:01. | :16:11. | |
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Apology for the loss of subtitles for 46 seconds | :16:11. | :16:57. | |
The company says, it has revised its training in the last year. Then, | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
only eight team, Simone was the patient our undercover reporters | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
saw being abused most frequently. As with Simon, her records tell a | :17:08. | :17:13. | |
story of someone who is not being heard. A report written at | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
Winterbourne View says she has a good relationship with this man, | :17:16. | :17:26. | |
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Wayne Rogers, who we now know Simone picks up a telephone and | :17:36. | :17:40. | |
asks for 999. She is giggling and it is taken as a joke. She asks for | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
Wayne to be arrested and with good reason, because this happen six | :17:44. | :17:54. | |
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She was left soaked with water outside in near-freezing | :17:57. | :18:03. | |
temperatures. That day she was subjected to abuse over 11 hours, | :18:03. | :18:13. | |
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We do not know what the Daily care notes written by staff said about | :18:16. | :18:22. | |
Simone that day. But we do know how are the days were described. This | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
is Simon on March 7th, 2011. On this day, his care notes so that he | :18:27. | :18:34. | |
has been re- directed a couple of times. -- his care notes say. And | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
there are no management problems. It is a false record that helped to | :18:40. | :18:44. | |
hide the abuse. The notes say that this was a good day for Simon. The | :18:44. | :18:48. | |
snapshot survey of every hospital patient with learning disabilities | :18:48. | :18:54. | |
in England and Wales showed one in 20, 5%, claimed they had been | :18:54. | :19:01. | |
assaulted at least 10 times in the previous three months. Few assaults | :19:01. | :19:09. | |
lead to prosecution. Without these pictures, would anybody have | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
believed Simon or Simmone? The Panorama programme broadcast in May | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
last year horrified anyone who watched. The Government says it is | :19:18. | :19:23. | |
a shock. NHS South West says it is appalled at the secret filming. | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
Horrendous and horrible. They were dragged by the hair, sat on, soaked | :19:27. | :19:33. | |
in water... Change was promised. care home providers are not up to | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
shave, they should be properly criticised and had their homes | :19:36. | :19:41. | |
taken away from them. Winterbourne View was closed quickly and now | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
similar homes for people with learning disabilities have been | :19:44. | :19:48. | |
inspected. Nearly half a failed to meet necessary standards for care | :19:48. | :19:53. | |
and safety and more problems were found in those run by private firms | :19:53. | :19:58. | |
and voluntary organisations. The most exhaustive report into what | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
happened was a serious case review. Vic Citarella worked on it | :20:02. | :20:08. | |
alongside Margaret Flynn. Whichever way you look, the professionals at | :20:08. | :20:15. | |
Winterbourne View, the nurses, the psychiatrists, let people down, and | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
then you look at the commissioners that purchased the service. | :20:20. | :20:24. | |
Safeguarding, they missed things and the police. Every group of | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
professionals, every group of organisations fell down in some | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
shape or form. That is a pretty sorry story. But the authors of the | :20:34. | :20:37. | |
review say that a lot of responsibility for failure at | :20:37. | :20:42. | |
Winterbourne View lies with Castlebeck. It promoted an | :20:42. | :20:46. | |
unworkable management structure. And it acknowledged that there was | :20:46. | :20:51. | |
limited executive oversight. We know that Castlebeck's board and | :20:51. | :20:57. | |
chair melted away once the Panorama programme had been broadcast last | :20:57. | :21:06. | |
year. And I am not confident that the individual's who was steering | :21:06. | :21:12. | |
the organisation have learned the lessons other than to disappear. | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
Castlebeck insist that the board did not melt away but was | :21:15. | :21:19. | |
reconstituted to include more health and social care experts. It | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
also says that once alerted, it moved swiftly to protect patients | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
and apologise. Since then, �8 million has been put into a | :21:27. | :21:33. | |
turnaround programme. Financially Winterbourne View was one of | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
Castlebeck's best performers. Turnover at the 24 bed hospital was | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
�3.7 million a year. There was an average weekly fee for patients of | :21:43. | :21:52. | |
�3,500. At Bristol Crown Court last week, the judge described to a | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
hospital run with profit in mind. He called it a scandalous lack of | :21:57. | :22:03. | |
regard for residents and staff. would like you to remember that our | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
children have suffered greatly and it will take a long time for their | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
physical and mental scars to heal. Castlebeck denies that profit came | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
before patient welfare and says that investors have not taken money | :22:14. | :22:19. | |
out of the business. It also says that where possible it has provided | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
information to the serious case review. The author is still found | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
it difficult to discover how the public money paying the bills was | :22:26. | :22:36. | |
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We can probably best described it as no response. We thought we would | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
explore help for areas, like how they were investing in activities | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
and staff development and a whole raft of areas, but the door was | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
closed on us, basically. The fact that they described the information | :22:55. | :23:01. | |
as commercially sensitive rather suggests that profit did play a | :23:01. | :23:07. | |
considerable part. After Panorama exposed the abuse here, Simone did | :23:07. | :23:11. | |
not go home. She was not ready. Instead she went to another | :23:11. | :23:16. | |
hospital. Austen house, the place that Simon and left after three | :23:16. | :23:21. | |
complaints about his treatment and one worrying injury. -- Costa and | :23:21. | :23:26. | |
house. For Simone's parents, it was still a 40 minute drive away but | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
closer to home than Winterbourne View. They were pleased with some | :23:29. | :23:39. | |
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of the care. Someone was very calm, nothing. -- Simone. Then she | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
probably got used to the environment. She was not being | :23:44. | :23:52. | |
nasty like she was at Winterbourne View. She was quite calm. If she | :23:52. | :23:55. | |
sat on the floor, the manager or somebody would sit on the floor | :23:55. | :24:02. | |
with her. They would stroke her. But Simone's notes also detail the | :24:02. | :24:07. | |
difficult days. Over four hours one morning, she was restrained in a | :24:07. | :24:12. | |
chair 10 times and twice on the floor. Then four months ago, this | :24:12. | :24:17. | |
letter arrived. There has been a safeguarding concern raised at | :24:17. | :24:22. | |
Postern House. Simone is mentioned and we are in the process of | :24:22. | :24:26. | |
looking into this to see what has happened. She continues to be safe | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
and the concern talks about the way she was supported by staff when she | :24:30. | :24:40. | |
was upset and agitated. We were not told what they had done wrong. We | :24:40. | :24:46. | |
just assumed that somebody had made a wrong move. You have been left to | :24:46. | :24:49. | |
knowing that something has happened to Simone but to do not know what | :24:49. | :24:59. | |
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It is not the same as Winterbourne View but it is still wrong. | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
Although were told was that four members of staff had been suspended. | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
Ridgeway Partnership who run Postern says that disciplinary | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
action has been taken and accepts that the family should have been | :25:13. | :25:19. | |
told more. Not a council says it has no reason to doubt that postion | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
house provides good care. -- Postern House. Within a matter of | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
weeks, Simone was moved and her parents were not told when she was | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
moving even though they asked. you have any idea why the decision | :25:33. | :25:38. | |
was made suddenly? Probably because she attacked two staff, on Monday | :25:38. | :25:45. | |
and on the Wednesday. This time she was taken 200 miles away to her for | :25:45. | :25:53. | |
a hospital in two years. -- 4th hospital. We were mad because we | :25:53. | :25:58. | |
did not get to see our daughter or say goodbye before she left. | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
the journey her parents are making now is not to see her. The AA Tower | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
round trip is too much for them. -- the eight hour round trip. They | :26:08. | :26:13. | |
cannot see her. We used to visit three times a week. Now we do not | :26:13. | :26:20. | |
see her. It is not very nice not to see your child. Instead they have | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
been to Postern House again to collect the possessions that Simone | :26:23. | :26:33. | |
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left behind. We always thought that one day we would pick her up and | :26:34. | :26:41. | |
her staff. Now we have ended up picking up her things and not her. | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
All they have been able to bring home, boxes and bags. Ridgeway | :26:46. | :26:49. | |
Partnership says that it deeply regrets that the family were not | :26:49. | :26:58. | |
able to say goodbye to their daughter. Panorama has learnt that | :26:58. | :27:02. | |
including Simone, at least 19 of the 51 former Winterbourne View | :27:02. | :27:07. | |
patients have had further alerts over their safety since leaving. | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
Not all alerts will mean that somebody has been harmed, but we | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
know at least one patient has been assaulted and in the second case | :27:14. | :27:20. | |
there is a criminal investigation. Also like Simone, just under half | :27:20. | :27:27. | |
of the patients remain in hospital. If nothing else results from the | :27:27. | :27:32. | |
scandal of Winterbourne View Hospital, I very much hope that it | :27:32. | :27:37. | |
is scrutiny of a practice that moves people around as though they | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
are pawns. We can and should be doing something so much better than | :27:42. | :27:49. | |
placing people in units that we do not know what it is that they can | :27:49. | :27:57. | |
reliably deliver. Most people with learning difficulties, like these | :27:57. | :28:00. | |
volunteers on a gardening project, lead busy lives in their | :28:00. | :28:06. | |
communities. But it is estimated that 1500 people in England with | :28:06. | :28:11. | |
challenging behaviour are currently in hospitals. Campaigners say that | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
if there is to be real change after Winterbourne View, then the | :28:14. | :28:20. | |
Government needs to do more than give guidance. What we need is the | :28:20. | :28:24. | |
Department of Health to say thou shalt not. We will close these over | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
a period of time and each local authority will look at how it can | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
make its local provision work, together with local health services. | :28:34. | :28:36. | |
The Government says it is intolerable that people spend so | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
long in such hospitals and it will publish its plans for change | :28:40. | :28:48. | |
shortly. For now, Simone is a long way from her family home. Her only | :28:48. | :28:54. |