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In the next half an hour we go beneath the covers of the bedroom | :00:12. | :00:15. | |
tax to discover why some northerners are facing sleepless | :00:15. | :00:23. | |
nights. What is bothering us is a dead line. Get out of here or pay | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
�27 extra a week. We discover how counting sheep in the North is not | :00:28. | :00:34. | |
adding up. I had gone at 7 o'clock in the morning to feed them and | :00:34. | :00:39. | |
there were only two left. And how for some of our young footballers | :00:39. | :00:46. | |
taking a penalty means time in jail. The only way I was getting it was | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
through crime and the crime it was selling drugs. Stories from the | :00:51. | :01:01. | |
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heart of the North East and Cumbria, Critics call it the bedroom tax, | :01:11. | :01:15. | |
the under occupancy charge kicks in in April as part of the Government | :01:15. | :01:20. | |
shake-up of the benefits system. Opponents say it will force | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
thousands of households in the North into poverty and tear | :01:23. | :01:29. | |
families apart. Tonight I am opening the door on complaints from | :01:29. | :01:33. | |
one community. It is a miniature scene of what is going on across | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
the North. All told in the factories I worked about 30 years. | :01:39. | :01:44. | |
I worked a 40 hour week because I did not want to get anything off | :01:44. | :01:50. | |
the state. I have never signed on in my life and tell my husband died. | :01:50. | :01:56. | |
Tudhoe Moor, a council estate in Spennymoor, County Durham. Sue | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
Brannigan's family has lived in this house since the 1950s. Her | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
four children grew up in it and her husband Peter died in it. Sue is | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
bracing herself for the Government's new under occupation | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
charge or her bedroom tax which kicks in in April. It affects | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
people in social housing. Your benefits will be cut if you have | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
more bedrooms it than you actually need. That sounds fair in principle, | :02:25. | :02:32. | |
but is it? We have up four bedrooms. How many people live here? Just me, | :02:32. | :02:38. | |
it is too big for me. Because Sue has got three spare rooms bedroom | :02:38. | :02:47. | |
tax will hit her hard. I get �71 a week. I have �8 water rates to pay. | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
�27 bedroom tax and that will leave me with �35. What is bothering us | :02:53. | :03:00. | |
is a deadline. Get out of fear or pay �27 extra a week. So what are | :03:00. | :03:05. | |
the rules? One person or a couple needed just one bedroom. They will | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
be charged an average of �13 a week if they have more. Suppose they | :03:10. | :03:15. | |
start having babies, a boy and a girl. The Government expects | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
children under 10 to share, so the family needs of two bedrooms. But | :03:20. | :03:24. | |
if the children are the same sex, they share a bedroom until they are | :03:25. | :03:32. | |
16. They leave home. Mum and dad only need one bedroom again. | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
Pensioners alike grandad can have whatever house they like, they are | :03:36. | :03:41. | |
not affected by the tax. Ironically Peter Brannigan was a pensioner, | :03:41. | :03:46. | |
but Sue is not. Not only has she lost her husband, but because she | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
cannot afford to keep her home, she is going to lose that as well. | :03:51. | :03:56. | |
is easy saying to somebody, can you shift house? But it is another | :03:56. | :04:04. | |
thing to say, leave your home. this about saving money? It is | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
about what is affordable. We have a housing benefit bill that is | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
frankly out of control. We can afford to support people in the | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
bedrooms they need, but not to fund extra bedrooms. It makes perfect | :04:18. | :04:24. | |
sense. If you are in a big house, it makes sense to come in with a | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
rule that pushes you to think about moving. No, I do not think anybody | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
should be told what size house they should live in and if they do not, | :04:33. | :04:41. | |
they will have so much ripped off their benefits. We pay for rent. It | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
is only since my husband died on the bathroom floor that I have been | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
plunged into this mess. Housing associations have told us bedroom | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
tax cannot work in the north. They say people who rely on benefits | :04:56. | :05:06. | |
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will either mood miles from home or end up a lot poorer. -- move. | :05:11. | :05:18. | |
party is over for benefit skivers. I did not go to that party. It is | :05:18. | :05:24. | |
slander and propaganda. Sue's son Michael lives across the street and | :05:24. | :05:31. | |
is facing a hit from the bedroom tax as well. How many rooms? It is | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
a two-bedroom house and I occupy one bedroom and the other bed it is | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
for my son who I get once a fortnight. Is that a spare room? | :05:42. | :05:47. | |
it is occupied, it is for my son. But the Government does not see it | :05:47. | :05:53. | |
that way, so Michael has to pay for the spare room. The suggestion is | :05:53. | :06:01. | |
the work more, you take in a lodger, or you move. What is your chance? | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
would take David Cameron in to see how he likes it. You want David | :06:07. | :06:13. | |
Cameron as a lodger? Yes I want him to live in the real world. Tudhoe | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
Moor is an example of what is going on in the North East. It is the | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
same in these flats. 60 people will have their benefit reduced. One of | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
them is 19 year-old Jade Widdowson who suffers from ADHD, but her life | :06:29. | :06:35. | |
is on the up. I have been here three-and a-half weeks. It is my | :06:35. | :06:41. | |
first home, it is my rules, and it is easier as well. But there is | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
this extra money you have to find. I know, it will be a struggle, but | :06:46. | :06:52. | |
I know my mum will be there to help me if I need it. There are a lot of | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
things we expect people may look to do. One of the things may be to pay | :06:58. | :07:04. | |
the extra for the bedrooms and a lot of people will look to work or | :07:04. | :07:10. | |
work more to afford to do that if they cannot already. I was talking | :07:10. | :07:13. | |
to one of the Government ministers and I said how are people supposed | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
to find the extra money? He said work more. It is easy for somebody | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
to say. I am not allowed to go to work because of the sea because of | :07:24. | :07:29. | |
my mental health. For them who can go to work, they are lucky, I wish | :07:29. | :07:34. | |
I could. But there is another reason why the Government is | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
bringing in the bedroom tax. will give people like us more | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
chance to get a bigger home. Albert and Melanie Jacques lived on the | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
Tudhoe Moor estate as well, but their three-bedroom house is not | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
big enough. When we first came here, it was all right, but we started to | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
grow. We are going to have six children. You manage, because you | :07:57. | :08:03. | |
have to. Overcrowding like this is very rare in the North East. It is | :08:03. | :08:09. | |
far more likely you will have spare bedrooms. But there is a problem, a | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
chronic shortage of smaller houses. The numbers do not add up. That | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
type of property does not exist across our patch in any great | :08:18. | :08:25. | |
number. There is not the property available for people to downsize to. | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
We have heard it is the same across the North. We looked at his snap | :08:30. | :08:40. | |
shot. Lower than in County Durham has 1400 affected by the tax, but | :08:40. | :08:47. | |
just four bedsits free. Redcar has 2500 properties, which under your | :08:47. | :08:53. | |
criteria would be under used. They have just won a one-bedroom | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
property for them to move into. When you look at the number of | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
people affected in the North East, the surveys that have been done so | :09:01. | :09:07. | |
just a quarter of people will want to think about downsizing. That | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
compares with the number of new, social Letts there have been in the | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
most recent year recorded. Basically we are going to have | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
people coming to housing associations saying they cannot | :09:19. | :09:24. | |
afford to pay the under occupation tax, please move me, and we have | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
not got anywhere else to move them to. But they will have to pay the | :09:28. | :09:35. | |
tax all the same. There is a shortage of small flats, housing | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
associations for most of them down. Sue Brannigan is finding it | :09:39. | :09:44. | |
impossible to find a flat near her family and friends in Spennymoor. | :09:44. | :09:51. | |
Middleton, Teesdale, Horden, Eshwinning, Stanley, Blackhall, | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
absolutely nothing. There is one in Spennymoor. If thousands of people | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
like Sue have to move away from the places they had lived all their | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
lives, what effect will that have quality of life on our street and | :10:05. | :10:11. | |
our communities? We are all in it together. We have obligations not | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
just to ourselves and families, but our communities. The Government is | :10:16. | :10:22. | |
on about community spirit and they are breaking us apart. My sister | :10:22. | :10:26. | |
lives down there and my brother lives over there and I live here. | :10:26. | :10:32. | |
The families on this estate are all like that. We have a Government | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
that does not look at people individually. All they want to do | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
is reduce the deficit and they will do that in any way they can. Do you | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
have a spare room in your house? actually do have a spare rib in my | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
house. Is it not reasonable for everyone to have a spare room? | :10:50. | :10:56. | |
difference is there are some people who are being supported by | :10:56. | :11:03. | |
taxpayers and the question is how much should the taxpayer Sant of | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
those bedrooms? People do not realise what is happening. There | :11:08. | :11:14. | |
will be a lot of civil unrest. you think it is like the poll tax? | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
It is worse than the poll tax. What you saw with the poll tax and the | :11:18. | :11:24. | |
riots last year, it will be three times as bad. Sue is depressed and | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
is still grieving over the death of her husband and does not do with | :11:27. | :11:34. | |
the bedrooms full of memories. These go back to the 70s. I really | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
should throw that out. That was a Mother's Day rose from one of my | :11:39. | :11:49. | |
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kids when he was eight. These are small memories as well. I just do | :11:54. | :12:03. | |
not think it is fair for anybody to tell you when to... I think it is | :12:03. | :12:13. | |
sad that I have these memories. few have a few, go to the website. | :12:13. | :12:17. | |
-- If you have a view on the stories, go to the block. | :12:17. | :12:24. | |
Still to come: How rising prices at the butcher's brought a bonanza for | :12:24. | :12:31. | |
rustlers. They take our sheep away for winter grazing and we went back | :12:31. | :12:38. | |
and a month later we found 32 had been stolen. One of the most | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
shocking statistics I have heard recently is that there are 129 | :12:43. | :12:48. | |
former professional footballers in prison. The vast majority are under | :12:48. | :12:53. | |
25, young men whose lives have hit a downward spiral after being | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
released by clubs that did not think they would it make the grade. | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
We asked football manager Phil Brown, who served his time with | :13:02. | :13:07. | |
Hartlepool, to find out what is being done with lads who do not | :13:07. | :13:12. | |
realise their footballing dreams. Every young lad who plays academy | :13:12. | :13:19. | |
football plays to dream. Dream about playing at great stadiums, | :13:19. | :13:28. | |
Old Trafford, St James' Park, or displays. And who can blame them? | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
There is nothing quite like the experience of playing in front of a | :13:33. | :13:39. | |
full house at fantastic arenas like this. But sadly, pour over 98% of | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
them, that dream at one ever come true. That is when the harsh | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
reality kicks in. We all think we are going to make it and very few | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
think it is not going to happen. I was one of the fortunate ones. | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
are a Premiership club and you have to find the best, so there is going | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
to be a large amount of fall-out. Football academies sign up boys as | :14:05. | :14:10. | |
young as eight, but can release them at any point. Some get very | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
close, possibly a full-time contract at 18, but the ones to go | :14:15. | :14:20. | |
all the way are exceptionally rare. For those who do not, the | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
disappointment can be shattering. You think it is the end of the | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
world and you may be start knocking about with the wrong groups of lads | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
and fall into crime and stuff like that. Football should do a lot more | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
for them when they came out of the game. Michael was a promising young | :14:41. | :14:48. | |
goalkeeper, but when his dream ended, he turned to crime. It was a | :14:48. | :14:53. | |
mind set and I was thinking, I should have that, and I want it. | :14:53. | :14:59. | |
The only way I was getting it at that time was through crime and the | :14:59. | :15:04. | |
crime I was involved in was selling drugs. Michael was a rising star | :15:04. | :15:09. | |
with the Liverpool schoolboys and eventually played for Tranmere. But | :15:09. | :15:14. | |
when he walked away from the game, he walked into trouble. Drug | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
dealing landed him in prison for seven years and that is when he | :15:18. | :15:26. | |
realised the full extent of football's problems. I know some | :15:26. | :15:29. | |
people at all different levels and some of them are actively involved | :15:29. | :15:37. | |
in dealing with drugs. I know the ones who have been caught. | :15:37. | :15:41. | |
fully reformed he has set up an organisation designed to help young | :15:41. | :15:48. | |
players whose football dreams have come to a premature end. Based at | :15:48. | :15:55. | |
Liverpool University, it already has the backing of the Professional | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
Footballers' charity, the Ministry of Justice and Liverpool City | :15:58. | :16:06. | |
Council. I want it to be a safety net. If a lad goes to Liverpool and | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
he goes to what still, and he does not end up getting another team he | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
comes to us and we interact with him and getting a coaching course, | :16:16. | :16:23. | |
a construction course, getting a job. We could offer a bit more, | :16:23. | :16:28. | |
showing them real-life and what will happen if they go down another | :16:28. | :16:34. | |
avenue. Jamie Carragher has just announced his retirement after a | :16:34. | :16:39. | |
fantastic career. He used to play Sunday League football with Michael. | :16:39. | :16:45. | |
But while Michael was in jail, Jamie was winning England caps and | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
the Champions League. Jamie is backing the project and invited | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
Michael to talk to some of Liverpool's brightest young stars | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
about the pitfalls that could lie ahead. Did the seniors sit down and | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
give them advice? Yes, that happens. That is my job, the experienced | :17:03. | :17:10. | |
players. But you do not want them to think that you think they are | :17:10. | :17:17. | |
not going to make it, but the statistics show that it happens. | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
The standard is so high, they have got to be thinking about things | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
like that. It is always in the back of my mind that if you come to the | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
end of the contract, you are not going to make it and you have got | :17:30. | :17:36. | |
nothing else left to do in life. There are some players who are not | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
making it and coming out of football. For too long, many young | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
footballers ignored their education while chasing their dreams, but | :17:45. | :17:55. | |
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nowadays, clubs are more aware of We have to put things into context. | :17:56. | :18:00. | |
What do I mean by context? We think we've got a responsibility to | :18:00. | :18:03. | |
develop them holistically, so it's not just the football side of | :18:03. | :18:06. | |
development, but it is them as people as well. We organise a day | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
release programme which is for everybody now, down to under 10- | :18:09. | :18:14. | |
year-old. As part of that day, we, as well as coach on the football | :18:14. | :18:17. | |
side, they also receive an hour's English and an hour's maths, to | :18:17. | :18:24. | |
replace and to support the work they do in school. Have you ever | :18:24. | :18:30. | |
thought about a plan B? I'd like to think that I would go to another | :18:30. | :18:34. | |
club but it is always in the back of my mind when it comes to that | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
time and it is quite scary, I suppose. I think about it a lot. | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
You've just got to stick with it because this helps you in case you | :18:41. | :18:44. | |
don't make it as a football player. You can also go on to further | :18:44. | :18:47. | |
education if anything else. academy is rightly proud of the | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
players who have made it through the ranks and into the first team | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
but there are also 11 who were not given contracts, who have gone on | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
to university, with five more currently studying in America. The | :18:58. | :19:01. | |
vast majority will not do either and they need to be prepared for | :19:01. | :19:07. | |
the inevitable. It is a great opportunity for them. While they | :19:07. | :19:17. | |
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are in here, embrace it, enjoy it. But it could come to an end. We've | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
got to educate the parents so that when he walks through the door, he | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
won't necessarily in �1 million. Enjoy what you're doing now but it | :19:24. | :19:30. | |
might not continue. This might not be the kind of place that most | :19:30. | :19:34. | |
young lads have in mind when they talk about living the dream but | :19:34. | :19:39. | |
this is the sort of ground that most professionals come to work. | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
Even playing at this level is beyond the vast majority of who | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
aspire to be a professional. If you are released by a Fleetwood, | :19:46. | :19:56. | |
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Rochdale, a Hartlepool or a Carlisle, you still need a plan B. | :19:57. | :20:00. | |
Jamie Milligan was released when he was younger but he is back in | :20:00. | :20:04. | |
League football with Fleetwood. He has already got a business set up | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
for when he eventually retires. When you do get released, you're | :20:07. | :20:13. | |
thinking it is the manager's fault, the coach's fault. But as I get | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
older, and realise it is my fault. My advice to lads would be look | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
into doing something while you're still playing because it can end | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
tomorrow. It is advice that his manager endorses. There is only so | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
much that you can do, as a sport. Individuals have to take | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
responsibility for their lives and it is a two-way street. You need to | :20:32. | :20:37. | |
be offered help and it is up to you whether you take it or not. One of | :20:37. | :20:41. | |
the newest players is Gerard Kinsella, Michael's younger brother. | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
He was released by Everton and then got a serious injury as he was | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
about to sign for Plymouth. He was in danger of going down the same | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
path as his brother. I had nowhere to go, no football to go to. I | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
started knocking around with the lads by ours. They were not up to | :20:57. | :21:01. | |
much good so it could easily have happened. I was associated with | :21:01. | :21:10. | |
those people. I should have been in football. It was Michael who | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
intervened, getting him a part-time job and some qualifications. That | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
was all through On Side. It has given me an education, it has put | :21:16. | :21:25. | |
me through a personal training course. Level two, level three. If | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
the football doesn't work out, I've got something to fall back on. | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
inevitable that the majority of young lads will not make it to be | :21:32. | :21:35. | |
very top but it is a long way down. It's encouraging to know that at | :21:35. | :21:38. | |
last, there are plans to catch those who fall. It is certainly | :21:38. | :21:48. | |
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You might have thought sheep rustling was an old-fashioned crime | :21:53. | :22:02. | |
but in fact, cases have more than doubled since 2010. It's thought | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
that the rise in the price of lamb has made selling on stolen animals | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
destined for the dinner table more lucrative and as Toby Foster | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
discovers in the countryside, it is a battle to stay one step ahead of | :22:11. | :22:21. | |
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The north of England boasts mile upon mile of stunning countryside. | :22:22. | :22:25. | |
As well as beautiful views it provides a living for those who | :22:25. | :22:30. | |
raise animals and work the land. But this vast countryside also | :22:30. | :22:33. | |
provides a great hiding place for people who aren't so keen on an | :22:33. | :22:36. | |
honest day's work. The thieves who are targeting farmers and their | :22:36. | :22:46. | |
stock. We took our sheep away for winter grazing. We went back a | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
month later to take them away and we found 32 of them had been stolen. | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
Martin Mitchell is a hill farmer in County Durham. All his sheep were | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
insured but the loss of them is more than just financial. Not all | :22:58. | :23:08. | |
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sheep are the same. The sheep on your moorland, they will stay on | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
the land you own. You couldn't just go out and buy sheep and put them | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
on that fell. They would wander off and stray. You wouldn't see them | :23:16. | :23:19. | |
again. Martin's animals disappeared without trace. He's now rebuilding | :23:19. | :23:24. | |
his flock and stepping up security especially during the winter months. | :23:24. | :23:27. | |
Thefts might be easier during long, winter nights but this is a year | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
round problem. In the last two years, cases of rustling have more | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
than doubled and it's a costly business. That's �800 of my money | :23:38. | :23:46. | |
that's just been taken from me. Kevin Wilson knows what's it's like | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
to be on the wrong end of the rural crime wave. He farms out of the | :23:50. | :23:52. | |
small village of Blubberhouses in North Yorkshire but rents fields | :23:52. | :23:59. | |
all over the county to graze his sheep. We go round on Sunday | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
morning checking stock. I realised that a vehicle had been through a | :24:03. | :24:10. | |
gateway. In this field, there were 200 feeding lambs. I gathered the | :24:10. | :24:13. | |
lambs up in the field, counted them and realised approximately 10 had | :24:13. | :24:23. | |
gone missing. Amazingly, within a few days, the police had tracked | :24:23. | :24:33. | |
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down his sheep. It was in that area between those trees and the river | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
where they were recovered. It was less than two miles as the crow | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
flies from where they'd gone. It was an isolated spot. Down there, | :24:42. | :24:51. | |
Every animal has to be tagged. what happened to the thieves who | :24:51. | :24:57. | |
stole them? They did a flit, they'd gone the following morning. | :24:57. | :25:07. | |
have sheep become such a popular target for thieves? Particularly | :25:07. | :25:11. | |
now we are seeing rustling, because the price of meat is going up. When | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
you've got hard times and food costs going up, you have | :25:14. | :25:16. | |
effectively all this food into countryside fairly lightly | :25:16. | :25:24. | |
protected. You would expect the rustling situation to increase. | :25:24. | :25:27. | |
Stolen sheep are ending up on our dinner plates but there is a | :25:27. | :25:33. | |
warning for anyone who thinks black market meat is a bargain. Some | :25:33. | :25:36. | |
people think it may be very tempting but what is the hygiene | :25:36. | :25:46. | |
situation? It's not as good a deal as you perhaps might think. Mark a | :25:46. | :25:49. | |
is off to Clitherow market to follow up reports of sheep thieves | :25:49. | :25:55. | |
trying to do business there. wondered if you could check your | :25:55. | :25:58. | |
computer records to see if this individual has carried out any | :25:58. | :26:08. | |
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transactions here. We had one over the top... Mark compares notes with | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
a colleague from Lancashire police who hit the headlines with their | :26:11. | :26:14. | |
first conviction for sheep rustling in a hundred years. We traced them | :26:14. | :26:18. | |
to County Durham and then we got them on a DNA. Then back to a small | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
village called Chipping. And those sheep belonged to farmer Robin Dean. | :26:23. | :26:31. | |
When did you first notice you were missing 55 sheep? I'd gone at seven | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
o'clock in the morning to feed them. There were only two left in the | :26:34. | :26:41. | |
field! So I immediately knew there was something amiss. So you phoned | :26:41. | :26:45. | |
the police. Did you ever think you'd see your sheep again? No, I | :26:45. | :26:49. | |
have to admit I didn't really. Even though they were in lamb, I thought | :26:49. | :26:55. | |
they'd be slaughtered and used for meat. If that had happened there'd | :26:55. | :27:03. | |
be no trace of them. And that's where DC Elaine Smalley comes in. | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
Officers attended a farm in Durham where Mr Dean was able to identify | :27:06. | :27:12. | |
his sheep. That led to the arrest of two people for the theft of them | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
but one of the people was maintaining that he'd bred them. So | :27:16. | :27:20. | |
what we did was we DNA-ed the sheep which proved that they'd been bred | :27:20. | :27:24. | |
at this farm. Were you surprised when the police suggested dna | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
testing? Yes, I was actually. It was quite funny that we had to go | :27:28. | :27:34. | |
to those lengths. I think he thought I was bonkers but I | :27:35. | :27:38. | |
explained it was something we had to do to get that to court so that | :27:38. | :27:48. | |
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someone would be brought to justice as a result of the theft. Over in | :27:48. | :27:52. | |
North Yorkshire, Mark does make an arrest and a man is charged but a | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
few months down the line the case is dropped at court. And neither of | :27:57. | :27:59. | |
the two thieves who stole Robin Dean's sheep received custodial | :27:59. | :28:09. | |
sentences either. These sentences, for stealing �15,000 worth of sheep, | :28:09. | :28:11. | |
there'll be some farmers who think those sentences are nowhere near | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
stiff enough. That's right. Having spoken to some of the farming | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
community, they've said, will that deter would-be sheep thieves? I | :28:17. | :28:27. | |
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think not. It's always at the back of your mind when you leave stock | :28:27. | :28:31. | |
in a field. You think maybe, will they be there when we come to load | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
them back up? You have to keep your fingers crossed and hope you are | :28:35. | :28:45. | |
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