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We are working with the local Health Protection people, they need

to work with us. The Health Protection Agency was set up 10

years ago to protect the public from infectious diseases and

environmental hazards. It says that there is no significant health risk

associated with particular to emissions from of the site. It says

that despite offering to discuss these -- the evidence with health

professionals near the site, no clinical care stuff came forward to

talk about their concerns. None of the plants mentioned in this film

would agree to be interviewed. However, Armstrong's Environmental

Services reiterated that they operate within the regulations.

Sonae -- Sonae said that there had been known -- they had been at no

issues for them. Plevins issued this statement, Levin's

environmental responsibilities are paramount. We take our

responsibilities to the community seriously and continually strive to

engage both residents over their concerns. We operate within the law

in a heavily regulated industry. The marching other side has

demonstrated no breach of its air quality standards.

A in the past few weeks, the World Health Organisation has told the

European Commission that there is new evidence to show that their

standards are not stringent enough. It has been rather overlooked in

the bigger picture. People forget that over 400,000 people die each

year in the EU because of respiratory diseases or

cardiovascular diseases. They are mainly caused by air pollution.

will the European Commission drop the levels and what would they drop

them to? It is likely they will drop the levels but we will have to

have the discussion with the member states. We need to change the

directive are so the commissioner will make a proposal, which is

either require from a public health or environmental point of view,

then it is up to the individual parliaments to agree those changes.

Dollar and Bernie say they will continue their campaign and they

are optimistic their voices will be heard. It is great that the World

Health Organisation has realised it is a greater problem than they

anticipated. So that is encouraging. We will liaise with other

organisations around the country at present our findings to them and

give them our report for what we think is a problem. So the fight

goes on? Yes. And if the World Health Organisation says it is a

carcinogen, we want that recognised. BBC Radio Manchester will have more

on that story tomorrow morning. Coming up, and industrial heritage

under threat. We meet the man tried Welcome to the Bundesliga. More

spectators crammed into Germany's vast stadia than in any other

football league in the world, even England. It is important to point

out that the Bundesliga remains way behind the Premier League

financially and in global popularity but with its philosophy

of maintaining affordable match tickets, or will it prove a winner

in the long term? Right from the time the Premier League was formed

in 1992, fans have grumbled about rising ticket costs but they have

always paid up in the end. But last month, Manchester City fans made

what could turn out to be a significant gesture. Almost a third

of their ticket applications for their game at Arsenal went unsold.

By refusing to fork out, fans were sending a message to the Premier

League. A lot of people say, don't go, show why not offending and that

will hit clubs in the pocket, but for a fan's point of view, why

should we be driven away from our club? And fans of other clubs agree.

The price has been getting dearer and dearer. At one time you could

pay �10 and that has -- and that was plenty. It is too much. When I

started it was very much the working man's game. Now I think the

working man has been squeezed out. Mark Palios is a former chief

executive of the former association. He has witnessed the business of

football from many angles, having played 17 seasons for Tranmere

before becoming a senior partner after a firm of accountants. Our

ticket prices in the Premier League simply too high? When you look at

it, it is an inescapable conclusion that there has to be a limit. If

you look at it and you then start to add on travel costs as well, as

a piece of entertainment for a father and a few kids, you are

starting to really struggle. former player who has played at the

very top in both England and Germany comes down on the side of

hard-pressed supporters. It is not just the ticket price. You need to

get down to London which is an extra cost, maybe have a sandwich

and a drink at the game and you are talking about 150 quid for an away

game. 150 quid? I could have an -- a weekend away in Europe for that

money. So I did. Here in Germany, things could not be more different.

This is Hanover in Lower Saxony and tonight the local team, Hannover 96,

is playing in the top division, the Bundesliga. Bremen is 128: It does

away but that is not a problem, at least not an expensive one. --

Bremen is 128 kilometres away. That is because when you have a ticket

for the match, you can also get the train for free. When I get to

Brehme and I can also use my football ticket for all local

public transport such as buses and trams to the stadium. We are now

going over the top and there does seem to be a slightly different

philosophy. They make sure they are affordable tickets for every

Bundesliga match. This cost me 19 euros. It is for a standing

position but I could have sat down for the equivalent of about �20.

How much did you pay for your ticket and what you think of that?

13 euros. About �10. That is amazing. It is a little bit

expensive. You are kidding? No. It is too much in England. Many young

people cannot buy these tickets. It is too much. Thomas is a social

worker in at Bremen. He is a key link between the Football Club and

its most fanatical fans. Football fans in Jerry are not companies.

They have social responsibility. -- football clubs the net Germany who

are not companies. And is that a different philosophy or is it a

financial decision? I think it is both. The North of England is where

professional football began. It was a sport for the masses, something

that most working men, and it was mostly men, could afford to go and

watch, but that is a very different era. Today the beautiful game

stands accused of charging up the prices. Until the 1990s, watching

football is a relatively cheap pastime. Over the decades, prices

kept in place with inflation. But that had its own problems. Stadiums

became decrepit, which was most brutally exposed in the disasters

at Valley Parade and Hillsborough. The Taylor report that followed

Hillsborough recommended all-seater stadiums for safety reasons. It

also suggested fans be charged �6 to dig down. In today's money back

is less than �13. -- to sit down. We could have been to any English

Premier League town and the story would have been the same. Here at

Old Trafford in 1960 you could stand on the Stretford End for

three shillings and sixpence, about �3.20 in today's money. The

cheapest seat now it is �42, �29 more than Lord Taylor recommended.

We requested end interview with the chief executive of the Premier

League, Richard Scudamore, but he declined, but he did tell BBC radio

last month that the protest by Manchester City fans had not gone

unnoticed. Mark Palios says fans in England should not expect ticket

prices to fall any time soon because Premier League clubs are a

globally competitive market. Yes, they play in the English League and

the FA has jurisdiction over that league. But the clubs also compete

on international basis. They play in Europe and they complete --

compete globally for their players so until you can actually control

the people they are competing against, Barcelona, Madrid, you

cannot put restrictions on Manchester United, for example, or

Arsenal. Otherwise our clubs would be active disadvantage. English

football is a huge economic export story for UK plc but for the

Premier League to continue to thrive, those in charge may be

forced to remind themselves that the fans are not just there to

watch the show. They are a crucial element of the show.

Up there has been a great atmosphere here but for a -- this

has been a great atmosphere. Weather aside, the Bundesliga and

the Premier League have much in common. Where they differ currently

is over their ticket price a loss of the but with pressure to bring

in England, Manchester City's protest may come to be seen as a

tipping point. Textile mills like these ones may

be North West the cotton kings of the world but today, with the

recession, these buildings are under threat as never before. Now a

unique project is under way to document all the surviving cotton

mills in Lancashire for the very first time and we follow one man's

quest to visit the best of them before the bulldozers move in.

They dominate the skyline in towns and cities across the North West.

But today, hundreds of crumbling textile mills are under threat from

neglect and possible demolition. Ian Miller is a professional

archaeologist whose job is to document and preserve these

buildings. He has come to Bamber Bridge near Preston to look at this

one. What is the largest single edifice on the horizon? This. So

from a heritage 0.2 few, it really does characterise Lancashire itself,

the cotton mill,. -- point of view. The owner of this male wants to

demolish it and replace it with 200 family homes. -- this gum. The

pattern is being repeated across North West, with plans to replace

this one in Rochdale with up to fortune I new houses. Ian's

challenge is to get access to buildings like this before they are

gone forever. We do a survey of what the condition is like. The

next part is getting into the ones we really want to get into. That is

a challenge. A decade ago, the property boom meant developers

could not get enough industrial buildings like bees to turn into

offices and trendy apartments but when boom turned to bust

redeveloping them became more difficult. From 2008 onwards more

or less everything has changed. The market has changed and developers

are now having to, or half for the last four or five years, had to

stop thinking differently about how they get finance, the schemes they

can bring forward. In the Ancoats area of Manchester, proposals to

convert Stubbs Mill into loft apartments has not materialised and

the building is derelict. Next door campaigners want to say the listed

Ancoats Dispensary after the local council granted permission to

demolish it last year. The problem with a meal is it is a rigid form.

-- with a gum. -- the problem with a textile mill is it is a rigid

form. 200 years ago, textile mills helped make Lancashire rich. There

were 2,500 in the county, employing almost half a million people, but

new technology and overseas competition eventually make them

redundant. This panoramic photos showed how cotton mills once

dominated the skyline of Oldham. Ian has come to the town's art

gallery to take a closer look. photograph was taken in 1876 by a

man called Squire Knott. What he has done, not really realising it,

is captured Oldham at a time of great boom. This really

characterises all caricatures Lancashire. The loss of those

buildings really takes that unique character away from the town.

company has been to do study and document for the first time all the

historic textile mills in Lancashire. Good afternoon, it is

Ian Miller. It is a huge task. The first part of the study identified

hundreds of buildings. Ian's now speaking to mill owners in person

so he can make detailed inspections of 50 of the most important. Some

people are not very keen for us to go in, which you might understand,

but it does not make things easy sometimes. A few days later Ian has

had some success. He has been granted access to a complex in beat

Weavers' Triangle in Burnley. Ian's colleague Chris is undertaking a

survey of the Sandygate weaving shed, a building dating from the

1850s, which is now without a roof. Why thing we want to find out is

how big this building is. When you pass by a weaving shed, one looks

like another, but there are a lot of interesting details. We take a

load of photographs and work out what the shed looked like. Next

door there is a building that shows what can be do -- and done with a

little care to turn a crumbling textile mill into something new.

Victorian mill is on its way to becoming a new technical college.

It was 18 months since we were last in this building and it was a wreck.

It is really nice to see it retaining some historic features,

particularly the hoist over there. Architecture really, the rooms are

designed so that hoists can be accommodated without being a

hindrance. They will be there to view forever, hopefully. A few days

later, Ian has come to Queen Street Mill to meet his colleague who is

using a balloon to get a view bar of the architecture. With the wind

picking up, they decide to opt for a more reliable method of

observation. I have asked Jayne be to take a whole load of photographs

ball -- from all the angles around the building. He puts that into a

software package and we get 83 D accurate model of the building. I'm

not entirely sure how this works! - - a 3D accurate model. We have

created a whole mass of photographs. From the ground, aerial shot, from

all different angles. And like magic, it creates this three-

dimensional model. It is a wonderful tool. He also has

important news about Queen Street Mill. An application to list the

historic weaving shed is now being considered by English Heritage.

Once a building is designated as a listed building, any alterations

require consent and will have to be looked at carefully. It is

immensely important and remarkably, to my mind, it does not actually

have listed building resignation at the moment. It is a small victory

and one that makes you an even more determined to carry on with his

work. I am hoping our survey will really help to raise the profile so

that people can appreciate textile mills a bit more. At the end of the

day, if it leads to the preservation of all the re-use of