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Hello there. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
I'm Matthew Wright, you're watching Inside Out London. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
Here's what's coming up on tonight's show. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
The union wants guards to be responsible for train doors | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
but Southern Rail management want this to be the driver's job. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
With frustrated commuters caught in the middle we ask - who's right? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
No one is more tired of this story than Southern commuters. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:27 | |
Why such chaos over who pushes the button? | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
We expose the job-seeking scam that's defrauded | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
hundreds of Londoners. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
Do you know how many people I've spoken to who have | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
been affected by your fraud? | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
Who have lost thousands and thousands of pounds? | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
And we pay tribute to Britain's first black publishing house, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
still going strong after 50 years. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:50 | |
I do not believe that multicultural education would have | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
been possible but for the work that this bookshop and others | 0:00:53 | 0:00:58 | |
like it actually did. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:00 | |
For the last six months commuters on Southern Rail | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
have been enduring strikes, cancelled services and | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
skeleton timetables. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
The key issue at stake, whether drivers or guards are | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
responsible for closing the train doors. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
The RMT union has claimed guards have a vital role to play | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
with regard to passenger safety. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
But in Europe, they already have unmanned fully automatic trains | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
while British Rail introduced driver-only ones in the 1980s. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:39 | |
How did Southern end up in such a mess? | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
We sent Mark Jordan to investigate. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Another week of strikes and Southern discomfort. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
It's the tale of the sad little green train, loved by no-one. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:58 | |
Managers said it was inefficient, unions warned it would injure people | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
if the driver closed the doors. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
The striking guards said, that was their job. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
The commuters were furious. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
In all the land no-one had worse punctuality | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
than the green trains of Southern. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
No-one is more tired of this story than Southern commuters | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
so why such chaos over who pushes the button? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
How did a railway grind to a halt over who shuts the doors? | 0:02:29 | 0:02:35 | |
In Europe, I will meet those already running | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
unmanned automatic trains. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
But here on Southern, that's for another generation | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
because the UK row over guards has been running for half a century. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:49 | |
The first of London Transport's automatically driven trains... | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
1969 and London Underground opened the Victoria Line - | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
automatic, no guards. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
One man will be in charge of each train. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Today, the entire London Tube network runs without | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
guards in tighter space, underground and carrying more | 0:03:04 | 0:03:09 | |
passengers every day than the entire UK rail network. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:15 | |
34 years ago, British Rail fought for the same. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
These brand-new electric trains sitting idly in the sidings at | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Bedford sum up British Rail's problems. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
The trains can't be put into service due to a continuing row | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
over one-man operations... | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
Sound familiar? | 0:03:30 | 0:03:31 | |
In 1982 British Rail finally won this dispute | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
on what is now Thameslink. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Here's where things get odd. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
This is Brighton, two trains here from London. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
This is a Thameslink, it has been running with | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
driver only since 1982. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
This is Southern, they run with a guard. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
Let's take Brighton station. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
You say keeping the guards is all about safety. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
So, are the public risking their safety travelling on | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
the Tube, London Overground or Thameslink because none of them have | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
guards? | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
They don't have guards and we have never accepted that guards should | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
be removed in any of those situations. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
Trap and drag situations, where people are | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
caught, are becoming more and more prevalent. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
What the train companies and the government | 0:04:12 | 0:04:13 | |
want to do is just accept the risk. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
We don't accept we need to have a risk. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:16 | |
But Transport for London claim door incidents reduced when they | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
turned their packed overground trains to driver only. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
The industry's rail safety standards board was | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
set up to prevent accidents. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
From the research we have done over the | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
last 15 years, we are very clear that operating with driver-only is | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
no more risky than having a guard present. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
In many cases it is safer. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
He says safer because video in the driver cab gives a good view of | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
every door and rules out driver guard miscommunication. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
The RMT dispute this. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Deadlock. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
May I say just how much we support the guards. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
But if guards ever accept Southern's no redundancies offer and become | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
customer supervisors without door responsibilities, any of their | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
future strikes would no longer stop trains. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Most of the arrangements where drivers are operating trains | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
on their own at the moment are actually agreements that | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
were reached by British Rail before privatisation occurred. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
But weren't we told privatisation would speed us to a | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
modern, efficient railway? | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
Not it seems if strikes risk ticket revenue and profit. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
There was no incentive to lose the guard. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
But then the government gave Southern a unique fixed fee | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
contract, with no loss of revenue for strikes. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
Your contract means when there is a strike you still get paid. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
The lost ticket revenue is picked up by the taxpayer, the government. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
Is that correct? | 0:05:49 | 0:05:51 | |
We have a very unique franchise in the way this one is | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
operated and all fares and revenue does go to the government. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
There is then a cost to us reputationally | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
when we have strikes. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
Southern claims the deal was to cover uncertainty over the London | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
Bridge re-development. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
Overcrowded. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:10 | |
Delayed and cancelled trains... | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
But these angry commuters believe the | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
government and Southern are in a pact. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
We are not able to even start to demystify the cosy | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
relationship between Govia and the Department of Transport. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
They are secretly backing them because that | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
is their agenda. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:28 | |
When they deliver new rolling stock, or when they procure | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
new rolling stock, that is the Trojan horse. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
They put it on the back of it destaff the trains and | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
destaff the stations. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:37 | |
They call that modernisation. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
What I am saying to the government, you should be | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
stripping this private company of this franchise. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Talk to us, we are willing to take over suburban trains. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:49 | |
It can't be right that the government and ministers have their | 0:06:49 | 0:06:53 | |
head in the sand. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
I've met so many commuters who actually hate your company. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
That is a terrible position to be in. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
I totally sympathise with our customers. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
This is why we need to make these changes very quickly now | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
so we can bring everything to an end. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
If Southern win future government franchises | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
could insist lines like South West Trains also | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
eliminate their guards. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
If I open this cabinet. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
In London this summer, something much more radical was attempted | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
on the Jubilee Line. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
TFL ran a test on a driverless tube in a depot. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
It's an early precursor to some of the agenda that the employers | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
and the government has got about dehumanising the railway. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
We are on the alert to that and trying to be vigilant about it. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
Tube drivers earn around ?50,000 a year, that is ?8,000 | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
more than some second officer piloting easyJet flights. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
As TFL prepares to spend 16 billion on | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
trains capable of full automation, the RMT say their drivers are | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
going nowhere. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
Automation is OK but there's got to be a human overseer, as | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
there is on DLR which is always quoted, there is always a train | 0:08:06 | 0:08:10 | |
captain on-board DLR services. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
We would expect that from any automatic | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
trains operated services that come up. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
Here in Paris, they are hardly immune to the odd industrial dispute | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
but on their busiest commuter line they have done something that leaves | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
TFL and Southern in the dark ages of railway technology. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:33 | |
This is line one on the Paris Metro. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
It carries more people every day than the | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
entire Southern Rail franchise. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
The trains have no guards, no drivers | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
and they are totally automatic with 100% punctuality. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:51 | |
People know that it is very safe and comfortable for them. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
It wasn't a big issue. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
While Southern battle over who pushes the door button, this | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
entire line is driven from here. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
What happened to the drivers? | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
The drivers had a choice. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
They can either go to another line or they can stay on the | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
line and become supervisors on the line. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
Any big event means more trains at the click of a mouse. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
It's quite amazing to think up to 750,000 people a day | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
are speeded to wherever they are going from this one | 0:09:30 | 0:09:36 | |
control room. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
In Paris, they are already automating the next line. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
Hear in Haywards Heath, the chaos of Southern | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
railway has forced Claire to move out. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
The fourth day of the week and it's taken you three hours a night | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
to get home. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:48 | |
You are ready to burst into tears. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
I would have been at risk of losing my job. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
And six months on, perhaps the greatest insult is both | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
sides still claim the fight is for the passenger. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
We actually don't care whose fault it is any more. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
We kind of want trains to run on time and we want our lives back. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
Michael Jordan reporting. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
Now then, still to come on tonight's show. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
It was actually in the Black Panthers where I discovered black | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
literature, and may interest developed and I found a | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
New Beacon. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
Not only did I discover a whole range of books about history, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
slavery, poetry from Africa, the Caribbean, it just opened up a | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
whole new world for me. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
When you are hunting for a job it can be a great | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
feeling being called up and offered a position with a decent | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
salary attached. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
Sometimes it pays to be on your guard. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
An undercover investigation for Inside Out London | 0:10:48 | 0:10:52 | |
has exposed a sophisticated employment scam where candidates are | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
offered positions in nonexistent companies. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
A scam that has, in all likelihood, fooled | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
hundreds of job seekers out of thousands of pounds. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
Guy Lynn has this special report. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
These men and women have all been taken in by one man. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
I want to welcome you, I'm John Phillips. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
He oversees a job scam and sophisticated fraud. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
You are very well aware of what your employment life can be. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
We know it sucked in hundreds of people who have paid thousands of | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
pounds. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
These are just a few of them. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
I've rarely come across someone whose scam was so realistic and had | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
such a huge impact on his victims. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
What we're going to do is give you a front row seat on how that | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
scam works. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Some highly qualified, some just starting, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
all were desperate to work in HR and progress their career. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
They placed their CV on job websites which can be openly | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
accessed by employers. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
Later they got contacted by John Phillips in | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
charge of a large HR company offering them what they thought was | 0:12:06 | 0:12:11 | |
their dream job. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
The job was an admin assistant role which was supposed | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
to be based in London Bridge. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
I was going to be paid 24,750. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
I couldn't be happier, my family was happy for me | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
and me personally, I felt, well, finally I've made it. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:32 | |
To understand the scam we're going to apply. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
Our undercover reporter, we call her Jane Smith, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
prepares a realistic CV and posts it online | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
on the kind of sites our victims have used. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:48 | |
A few days later a job description and an e-mail from one company, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
Premier Employment. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
And then a call confirming this to a man called John Phillips. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:57 | |
And then a call confirming this to a man called John Phillips. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
We find a website and see it's registered on Companies House. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
All the job seekers are told to come for a final interview before signing | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
a contract and commencing work. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Our reporter is on her way to an office in the heart of the city. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:42 | |
But no sign of John at all. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:46 | |
We are met by someone else. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:47 | |
Tiffany. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
Who tells us how working for Premier Employment | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
comes with huge perks. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:53 | |
Next is the crux of how Phillips makes his money. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
All were asked by different assistants to pay for accreditation | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
to work at the company. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
Experts say that is a warning. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
In my eyes that is exploitation of vulnerable job-seekers. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
Nobody should be paying to find, to start a new job | 0:14:29 | 0:14:33 | |
with a genuine employer. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
We hand over our accreditation fee but are told it will be refunded. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
She said I'll have to pay ?480. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
And you need to bring the cash in order for you to start employment. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
You have to pay upfront before you start the job. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
But what about John? | 0:14:55 | 0:14:56 | |
So, as the meeting with the undercover reporter was | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
taking place inside this building I was waiting outside. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
We have heard from other victims that when it comes to actually | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
receiving the money, John is nowhere to be seen. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:16 | |
What I happened to record with my phone while waiting outside | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
is very interesting indeed. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
I spot John Phillips seemingly running operations from outside. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:28 | |
If that's in any doubt look who comes in. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Tiffany. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Whom we've given the money for so-called accreditation. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
She gives it to John. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Initially, we thought she might have been part of it but later | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
we discover that Tiffany herself was being conned with a fake | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
job and is just as much a victim as everyone else. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:53 | |
This lady, Lucille, not her real name, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
was exactly like Tiffany. | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
A senior manager. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
John persuaded her to pay for premises from her own funds to | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
interview candidates. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
Her task? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
To get the accreditation money off them. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
And then devastating when the whole thing turned out to | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
be a lie. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
You lost confidence. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
We receive a detailed list of instructions to start work. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
Our job, to find other candidates. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
We are sent a set of e-mails and numbers to call. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
There are 30 numbers and e-mails here. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
What's clever, so to speak, about this is were we to do | 0:17:04 | 0:17:08 | |
our job and invite all of these people for interview it'd mean | 0:17:08 | 0:17:12 | |
about ?7,000 for Mr Phillips. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
He is aware of the cash value of our calls | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
and gets jumpy when we don't make progress. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:21 | |
I didn't understand what I was supposed to be doing. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:38 | |
Yes, I am. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
I read it but something's are missing. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
We investigate Mr Phillips. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
He's from St Lucia originally and uses several aliases. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
John Phillips. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:51 | |
Nathan Phillips too. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
When I pose as a client... | 0:17:53 | 0:17:54 | |
Can I just check what your name is? | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
Bill Barnett. | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
Pardon? | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
Bill Barnett, Bill. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
The firms he set up have professional looking websites. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
We find more than ten, some using fake company directors. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:10 | |
We speak to numerous job-seekers who have never been paid. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
With reports online suggesting this scam has been going on for years | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
with possibly hundreds of victims. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
For these men and women it wasn't just the money, | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
it was staking everything on a full-time job | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
and all but involved. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
I wouldn't say it was exactly depression but I was completely | 0:18:30 | 0:18:35 | |
stressed financially. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
Hard to cope with life in general. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
It's quite embarrassing as well. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:41 | |
Especially being the age that you are, you want to be helping and | 0:18:41 | 0:18:47 | |
supporting your family and yourself and being able | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
to do things, but when you come across somebody like this | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
it does take you low, very low. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:57 | |
There is no company, there is no office, | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
there is nothing behind. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:01 | |
How can you possibly do that? | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Where is your humanity? | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
There is no humanity. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Young people like me just got in this country. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
You are just stealing for the poorest. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
It is ridiculous. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
John Phillips still thinks we're going to arrange him people | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
to be included. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
Unusually, he agrees to meet us in person. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:24 | |
To push us to do the course, to get him the candidates. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
All money spinners for him. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:38 | |
He says goodbye but now we seize the moment to | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
ask him some questions of our own. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
Guy Lynn from the BBC. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
Just wondered if you could tell us all about the | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
high levels of fraud you've been committing against many, many people | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
by lying about those jobs. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
I don't know what you're talking about. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
You don't know what we're talking about? | 0:20:07 | 0:20:08 | |
We have been recording you over the last few months | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
offering people jobs at fictitious companies. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
I don't know what you are talking about. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
Are you aware that what you are doing is incredibly serious | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
fraud, Mr Phillips? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
I don't know what you're talking about. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
Do you know how many people I've spoken to who have been | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
affected by your fraud? | 0:20:23 | 0:20:24 | |
Who have lost thousands and thousands of pounds? | 0:20:24 | 0:20:25 | |
What you have to say to them, Mr Phillips? | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
No answer. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
I don't know what you're talking about. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
I have never seen a more pernicious kind of fraud as that which you are | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
perpetuating. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:35 | |
I don't wish to talk to the BBC. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:37 | |
I think he's scum. | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
I can't believe he's getting away with it. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
I can't imagine how he can sleep at night. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
I don't know if he hates people. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
He is a horrible human being. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Since our investigation, John Phillips has gone underground | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
leaving behind a trail of damage for his victims. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
October is Black History Month which, amongst other things, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
offers the chance to celebrate the way black people have | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
shaped our capital's culture. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
Up in North London there is a small but | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
very special shop that started life as the UK's first black publishing | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
house and is now celebrating its 50th anniversary. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
It sits just across the road from the ubiquitous | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
Piri Piri Chicken and next door to the dry cleaners | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
and you'd easily walk past without noticing it. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
But here in Finsbury Park, this tiny book shop | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
is of huge significance. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
New Beacon Books has, since 1966, quietly | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
gone about its business of pushing black culture into the mainstream. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:54 | |
Not only was it the first black publishing house and book-sellers in | 0:21:54 | 0:22:00 | |
this country, but it started at the time when there was a very | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
real need for what it did. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
It was radical cultural material. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
If you look at the first few books we published | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
they were political or radical in the sense they were coming | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
from a Caribbean aesthetic. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:23 | |
It was quite simply an oasis in a desert of | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
knowledge about black history and culture. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:32 | |
New Beacon was the brainchild of the late John La Rose, | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
a poet, trade unionists and activist. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
It's published and sold books written from black communities | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
all over the world ever since. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
John's partner, Sarah White, started the shop with him | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
and still runs it now. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
It started in our bed sitting room. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
We had a book service, you could say. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
We wouldn't call it a book shop. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
It was a row of books on a shelf in our bed sitting room. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
We gradually built up a collection of | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
books, you could say, of black interest books. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
We used to take them around. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
We had a motorbike and we used to take them around on the | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
motorbike. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
We didn't get a shop front or anything like that for a very | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
long time. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
By 1973, they had managed to buy the property they are still in | 0:23:15 | 0:23:23 | |
and open a proper shop. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
It meant for the first time, Londoners could browse and buy | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
books they otherwise might never have got the chance to read. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
It wasn't fashionable to carry books by black writers. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
The idea of going into a book shop and being readily able to | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
pick up books about the Caribbean or written by black authors was not | 0:23:42 | 0:23:48 | |
an easy thing to do. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
So, this book shop, this publishing house filled a | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
massive gap where that was concerned. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
As well as showcasing the works of previously unknown authors, it | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
became a meeting place where forward-thinking ideas could be | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
exchanged as author Donald Hinds remembers well. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
I didn't go into a library, a public library in Jamaica | 0:24:08 | 0:24:14 | |
until I was 20. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
I could come here, and even if you didn't buy a book or | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
you couldn't afford to buy a book, browsing through some | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
of the writers that you have heard about and hadn't got around | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
to reading them and so on. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
It did a lot. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
Listening to people like you who had written a novel about | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
poetry and so on. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
Listening to people who'd gone through it, talking about | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
this and that and so on. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
It was fantastic. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
The book shop also houses the George Padmore Institute, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
founded by John La Rose 25 years ago. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
It is an archive storing material that tells of the experiences of | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Afro-Caribbeans in Britain in Europe. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
The documents they hold often relate to radical change and include groups | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
like the once once vilified Black Panthers. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
New Beacon worked closely with the Panthers selling books | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
at meetings. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
I was a Black Panther. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
It was actually in the Black Panthers where I discovered black | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
literature and my interest developed, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:31 | |
and I found New Beacon. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:32 | |
It played a significant part in my life because | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
not only did I discover a whole range of books about Africa, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
history, slavery, I discovered a lot of poetry from | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Africa, the Caribbean. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
It just opened up a whole new world for me. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
# This is the beat of the heart. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
# This pulsing of blood that is a bubblin' bass | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
# A bad, bad beat...# | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
Linton Kwesi Johnson's ground-breaking reggae poetry | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
was hugely popular and gave us a greater insight into | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
the black politics of the time. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Thus creating a greater togetherness and he reckons | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
that is exactly what this tiny book shop was all about. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:13 | |
Integration as opposed to assimilation where you lose | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
your identity. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Integration is a two way street. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
We, the newcomers, adjust themselves for the way of life of | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
the country. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
The people who were here already get to find out about us. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:32 | |
New Beacon played a significant part in others getting to find out | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
about us. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
The book shop was able to take that idea of integration even further | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
by taking its books into schools and libraries for the first time. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
Our children were not being given access to anything about their | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
own lives or their own history. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
And so, in addition to having the book shop, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
one of the things that we did, that New Beacon did, was to make | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
books available to libraries, make books available particularly | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
to teacher centres, professional development | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
centres for teachers. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
We were getting quite a lot of orders from the libraries. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
When the libraries began buying it was really in the 1980s. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:19 | |
This was part of the government's response to the riots. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
It was an attempt to create a West Indian middle class. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
You suddenly have actual government money. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
The libraries had a pot of money to buy Afro-Caribbean collections. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:35 | |
I do not believe that multicultural education, as it came to be known, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
would have been possible but for the work that this book shop and | 0:27:40 | 0:27:46 | |
others later like it actually did. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
But it also did something else, it encouraged young people, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
British-born, to write. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
It encouraged them to see themselves as | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
capable of becoming authors. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
So, from a very modest beginning of a few books in a bedroom we get | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
inspiration, integration and education. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
Not bad things to be remembered for after 50 years. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
And still very quietly going about its business. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
New Beacon Books, what an amazing little place. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:32 | |
That's it for this week's Inside Out. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
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