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Hello there. I'm Matthew Wright. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
You're watching Inside Out. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
Here's what's coming up on tonight's show. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Does having a Muslim name damage your chances in the job market? | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
In their minds, they have a link between Islam and terrorism. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
Maybe that's playing a role behind why they look at a Muslim name | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
and think that this is somebody I don't want to employ. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
How the Brexit vote is making it tougher to find the European | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
nurses the NHS needs. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
The NHS is already gravely understaffed. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
So if you take away the EU nurses, it will be mayhem. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
It will be chaos. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
And the American crayfish invading the capital's waterways. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:45 | |
It was recognised that these American crayfish, that they thought | 0:00:45 | 0:00:49 | |
were immune to the crayfish plague, carried it. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:54 | |
And that will kill any non-American crayfish within two to three weeks. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
President Trump's travel orders against seven Muslim majority | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
countries have put religious discrimination right | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
at the top of the news agenda. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
Now discrimination can come in many forms, both blatant and subtle. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
And Inside Out has been investigating whether an under | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
representation of British Muslims in top professional roles | 0:01:23 | 0:01:28 | |
is as a result of discrimination in the jobs market. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
We've conducted on exclusive research, and Caroline | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
Wyatt has the story. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:38 | |
I'm in between jobs at the moment. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:41 | |
It's quite clear that it's not my qualifications or skill | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
set that is the issue. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
It is my religion. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
In their minds they have a link between Islamic terrorism. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
Maybe that's playing a role behind why they look at a Muslim name | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
and think that this is somebody I don't want to employ. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
I am truly thinking of going down the lines of changing my name. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
Maybe changing my name will get the focus off my religion. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:10 | |
Can your name or your religion hurt your search for a job? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
It's a topic of debate among many Muslims here in the UK, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
and with good reason. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
According to a report backed by MPs, Muslims are three times more likely | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
to be unemployed than anyone else. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:26 | |
So, assumptions are based on your race. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:27 | |
This diversity coach works with hundreds of recruitment | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
officers every year. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
She claims some officers who attended her previous courses | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
have admitted to routinely rejecting applicants with Muslim | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
or foreign sounding names. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
They've said to me, off the record, that when organisations do contact | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
them, they have said, "Please don't send us | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
any foreign names." | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
And when I questioned them, and said, "Are you colluding | 0:02:54 | 0:02:58 | |
with them in not sending names that are unusual or foreign | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
names?", the recruitment consultants have said, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
"Well, we need business, and what's the point of sending them | 0:03:03 | 0:03:05 | |
CVs and applications when they are just | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
going to be returned?" | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
Are Muslim applicants at a disadvantage? | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
Are their CVs more likely to be rejected? | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
To find out, we're going to undertake an experiment. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
If we're talking about managerial jobs, discrimination testing | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
at a managerial level, then it's really a CV | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
or an application that starts the process. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
We've teamed up with one of the UK's most renowned social scientists | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
to help with the methodology of our experiment to | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
ensure its accuracy. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:41 | |
What we have done here is to create two CVs that | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
are more or less identical, but give them two different names. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:52 | |
So Adam in one case, we have here, and Muhammad, in another. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:58 | |
So aside from their very different names, our two job-seekers | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
are virtually indistinguishable. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:01 | |
Both have obtained degrees in business from top | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
ranking universities. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
And both have previously worked as training managers. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
They will each be submitting applications for exactly the same | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
100 vacancies in the highly competitive field | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
of advertising sales. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:15 | |
Later, we'll find out how they're doing. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:20 | |
I've lived here for five years. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
Like many Muslim women in Tower Hamlets, this woman attends | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
classes to help improve her English. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
Lessons like this are taking place across the capital after government | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
research suggested poor language skills were to blame for high levels | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
of unemployment among Britain's Islamic communities. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
But even Muslims who speak impeccable English can | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
struggle to find work. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:51 | |
I think there are employers out there, as soon as | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
they see a Muslim name. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
they could straightaway say no to that person. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Ahmed, who doesn't want to be identified, | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
is a building contractor. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
He says he is speaking from experience following a disturbing | 0:05:01 | 0:05:06 | |
incident with a potential employer. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
He mentioned that he was actually recruiting someone for | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
a managerial position. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
It would involve travelling to China, Japan. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
It was probably my dream job, I would say. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
He said to me he would read through the CV and get back to me. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
We exchanged numbers and that was that. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:26 | |
A few days later, Ahmed received a text message from the man | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
who had requested his CV. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
I was actually excited. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:34 | |
Wow, this could be yes for me. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
Until I opened the text. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:38 | |
"My Previous dislike of Islam has now hardened. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
into real hate. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
That false and decadent religion now threatens our on societies." | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
I actually felt threatened. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:48 | |
This person with so much hatred has got my address. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
He could do something to my family. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
I was scared. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
I wasn't sleeping well. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:57 | |
It did really affect me. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:02 | |
It wasn't until only after I got the police | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
involved, I felt a bit safe. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Muslim men such as Ahmed are 76% less likely to be | 0:06:06 | 0:06:12 | |
employed than their white Christian counterparts. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
Growing numbers claim they're barred from the workforce due to prejudice. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
There is a perception of Muslim employees being considered to be | 0:06:18 | 0:06:22 | |
disloyal, considered to be political. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:29 | |
Their appearances sometimes are read as them being fundamentalist. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:34 | |
And it's leading to a significant number of Muslim employees | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
being discriminated against. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
Nabilla is a barrister who represents Muslims taking legal | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
action against employers. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
She believes that prejudice against Muslims in the job market | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
has escalated dramatically over the last 15 years. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Every time that there is a terrorist incident, what you'll see | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
is that there is a growth in mistreatment of employees. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
There have been a spate of these kind of cases since 7/7. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:09 | |
It is two weeks since we began our experiment to discover if having | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
a Muslim name harms your chances of getting work. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
Our job-seekers are applying for the same positions | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
in middle management. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
They have sent out 50 applications each, and Adam has already received | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
four positive responses. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
I've actually got quite a few offers at the moment, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
so if I could just have a couple of days to think about it | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
and maybe get back to you? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
There have been no calls for Mohamed. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:38 | |
But there are still another 50 vacancies to apply for. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
In Britain there is a well-established tradition | 0:07:41 | 0:07:42 | |
of many Muslims and Asians modifying their names in order | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
to improve their chances in the job market. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:48 | |
Some Muslims have even been forced by their bosses to adopt more | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
English sounding names. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
I had a student job where the employer looked | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
at my name and said, "Oh, that won't do." | 0:07:58 | 0:08:01 | |
He said, "Introduce yourself as Terry Miles", | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
or some name like that. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
And I was very unhappy to do so. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
My old boss used to call me Joseph instead of Yogesh. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
And I kept saying, "No, it's Yogesh." | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
And he said, "Do you have a middle name?" | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
And I said, "Yeah, it's Krishan." | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
But he couldn't pronounce that, so in the end he called me Chris. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
Krishan is the director for quality at a leading pharmaceutical company. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
It's taken in decades to reach this senior role. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
I entered the job market in the 80s. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
I put my CV in and was disappointed I got rejection letters. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:35 | |
Someone suggested, why don't you, you know, put a very English name | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
in with your CV and your name, and see who they might | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
offer the job to? | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
So I had my name, Yogesh Krishan. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
I had John Smith. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
John Smith got the interview. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
I got rejected for interview. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:59 | |
It's three months since our job-seekers each applied | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
for the same 100 vacancies. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
So, how have they done? | 0:09:04 | 0:09:09 | |
Adam here got 12 positive responses and four enquiries from headhunters. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:16 | |
Mohamed only got four positive responses and two | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
responses from headhunters. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
What we've identified very clearly is that the Muslim sounding person's | 0:09:23 | 0:09:29 | |
CV is only likely to get them an interview in one out of three | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
cases, where and Anglo-Saxon name would get a response, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
a positive response. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
Our research is based on a small sample of responses, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
but it does indicate a pattern of prejudice against Muslims | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
in the UK workforce. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Some organisations are trialling name blind CDs, which stop | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
recruitment officers making on fair judgments. | 0:09:53 | 0:10:00 | |
-- | 0:10:00 | 0:10:00 | |
-- on | 0:10:00 | 0:10:00 | |
-- on fair. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
But this unemployed chartered surveyor believes | 0:10:02 | 0:10:03 | |
their effect is limited. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I've seen many people who are less skilled than me, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
but have risen up into more senior management positions much | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
faster and much quicker, more because their face fits | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
than an application from a candidate like myself. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:19 | |
At that early stage, sometimes they don't reveal | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
the name of the person, but clearly when you walk | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
into an interview, it's quite apparent that you're not going to be | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
John Smith. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:33 | |
High levels of joblessness are having a devastating effect | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
on Muslim communities across the capital. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
More than half of Muslim households live in poverty, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
higher than any other social group. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
Changing this will require equal access to employment. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:51 | |
Caroline Wyatt reporting. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
And if you've got a story about name discrimination you think | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
we should hear about, then why not drop us a line? | 0:10:58 | 0:11:04 | |
The address is: | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
Don't worry, I'll give that to you again | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
at the end of the programme. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:09 | |
Still to come on tonight's show... | 0:11:09 | 0:11:11 | |
My best customers are the otters at the zoo. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Absolutely every single week, crayfish, we want crayfish, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
where are the crayfish? | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
The crayfish is just a good way of giving them really natural food | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
that they can eat in the wild and one that's getting them | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
using their instincts and hunting ability as well. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
s | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
While MPs have been thrashing out a bill to trigger | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
out a bill to trigger | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
the countdown to Brexit, there are some sectors | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
where the effects of last summer's referendum are already | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
being keenly felt. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
That's already the case for the NHS, which is heavily dependent on EU | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
nurses, especially here the capital. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
There are now urgent calls for the government to clarify | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
the status of these workers to protect front line services. | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
We meet some absolutely fantastic people who are anxious, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
who come here because they do want to do a really good job | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
to a very high standard. | 0:12:06 | 0:12:07 | |
And what they want is clarity, like we all do. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:14 | |
To sell the NHS to EU nurses is much harder than it was prior | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
to the Brexit referendum. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
The NHS is already really, really gravely understaffed. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
So if you take away the EU nurses, the EU doctors, it will be | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
mayhem, it will be chaos. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:35 | |
Rene completed his medical training back in his native Austria. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:46 | |
He's now working as a senior nurse at Great Ormond Street. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
Ashan is a six-month, long-term ventilated patient. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:56 | |
He has had six surgeries already. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
He was really sick at the beginning. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
But he's smiling all the time. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
He's getting really, really good. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
I came here in December 2015 and I've been working here since then. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:12 | |
I've always wanted to gain international experience | 0:13:12 | 0:13:13 | |
and improve my skills. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
And for me the NHS means always excellence and high standards. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
I think your dressing has been changed also, right? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:26 | |
Last summer's vote in favour of Brexit means the future | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
status of nurses like Rene is currently uncertain. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
They may lose their jobs and be forced to leave the UK. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:38 | |
The situation is still unclear. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
We have a lot of nurses from abroad, like from Spain | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
and Italy and Portugal. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
It's a big impact for the NHS if we have to leave. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
And I do hope there will be a chance to stay here. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:57 | |
Cuts to training budgets and a shortage of home-grown nurses | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
wanting to work for the NHS, mean that many hospitals rely | 0:14:01 | 0:14:07 | |
heavily on EU nurses like Rene. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
We haven't got enough nurses within the UK to fill our vacancies. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
And currently we do need people who want to come | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
and work and live in the UK. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
And when you look at the figures, which are incredibly high, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
it's 13% of the nurses working in London have been | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
recruited from Europe. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
That is a lot. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
That is 7000 individuals that are currently supporting our | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
families and our people with their care. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:30 | |
Obviously that is a big impact if they were not to be here. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:40 | |
So we are going to listen from here. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:44 | |
I grew up in a world in the European Union, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
in which there was no question about, will I be welcome | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
in another state? | 0:14:50 | 0:14:51 | |
I just go. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
I can. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:53 | |
It's my right. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
Italian nurse Serena is in her final year of training | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
at London South Bank University. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
She may also be forced to leave the UK after Brexit. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
I was quite shocked by the Brexit vote. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
I never expected a result like this. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
I felt a bit betrayed, because these are people that we look after, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
so they can see the level of care they provide. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
They can see how we work, and to think that they actually | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
prefer not us to be there, it was a bit of a shock. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:29 | |
Serena believes that Brexit is going to throw up numerous | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
obstacles for EU nurses wanting to work here. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:40 | |
I think there is going to be, first of all, a psychological impact | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
on nurses wanting to come here, and then there's the practicalities. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Would they need a visa? | 0:15:48 | 0:15:49 | |
They might say no, you can't stay here unless you have | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
a certain minimal income. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
What if they lose their job for whatever reason? | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
Do they - I don't know, do they need to be deported? | 0:15:57 | 0:16:06 | |
Currently recruiting nurses from the EU is | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
relatively straightforward, because a European Directive ensures | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
that training standards are the same across all the member states. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
Post-Brexit, though, this is likely to change. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:22 | |
If we no longer have free movement of workers, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
if we do have to treat those coming from Spain, Italy France, | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
on the same footing as those coming from Canada, the States, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
the Philippines, they will probably have to apply for a visa. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:39 | |
They will probably need to demonstrate to us | 0:16:39 | 0:16:40 | |
that their standards of qualification are as required | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
here, and they will probably need to take a test. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
That means it's probably going to take longer. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:54 | |
The pipeline may well slow down after Brexit, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
but for the companies who have been recruiting European | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
nurses for the NHS, it's already started to dry up. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:05 | |
At TFS we have seen approximately a 20% reduction of placements. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
To sell the NHS to EU nurses, it's much harder than it was prior | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
to the Brexit referendum. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:12 | |
They're scared of giving up everything within their homes, | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
effectively, moving across to the UK, and not feeling | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
valued, and feeling like it might not be a permanent | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
opportunity any more. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:28 | |
Last time I was in Spain, I was approached by a nurse that | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
said, well, would I be even welcome in England? | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
Which is such a shame. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:40 | |
In fact, new figures have revealed while over 1,300 nurses from the EU | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
registered to work in Britain last July, in December that figure had | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
fallen to just over 100. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:47 | |
Among the EU nurses already employed here, only those who have worked | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
long enough to qualify for residency have been able to achieve | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
a degree of job security. | 0:17:53 | 0:18:02 | |
I apply for a permanent residence, and I got the results in December | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
last year and for now, until - now I can actually work, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
work here and stay in the UK. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:16 | |
So did the doctor see you today? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
Ishmalia completed her degree in Portugal in 2009. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
Since then, she's worked for a London Hospital Trust, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
supervising stroke patients. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:29 | |
That's why you're having problems your right hand, | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
because the left side of the brain controls the right side of the body. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
If I would stay in Portugal I wouldn't be a clinical nurse | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
specialist seven years after I qualified. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:39 | |
I think that the NHS invests in their staff, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
in health care professionals, in a way my country doesn't. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
So we think your stroke is on the left side of the brain. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:54 | |
But there are many EU nurses working here who, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
unlike Ishmalia, might not have the option of staying. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
Concerns about the potential damage Brexit could do to the nursing | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
pipeline are being put to the Government by | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
the Cavendish Coalition. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
An umbrella group of 33 different health organisations, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
including NHS employers. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:17 | |
What the Cavendish Coalition is asking for for EU nationals | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
who are working in health and social care now, is they are granted | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
indefinite leave to remain, so they are clear that they have | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
a real commitment from this country to them being part of our population | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
and part of our social care and health provision, beyond us | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
leaving the European Union. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:39 | |
We contacted the Department of Health, who told us that: | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
The Prime Minister has been clear that she wants to protect the status | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
of EU nationals already living here. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
This will be a key objective in our negotiations, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
in terms of leaving the EU. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
For London's 7,000 EU nurses, official assurances | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
can't come soon enough. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:00 | |
I'd certainly want to see the Government clarifying | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
the position of EU workers. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
They know perfectly the NHS cannot cope without us. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
They have to do it, because without us the NHS | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
would just collapse. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:18 | |
It's great so many of our rivers and canals here in the capital | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
are a lot cleaner than they used to be, and that wildlife | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
is thriving once again. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:26 | |
However, there is one resident of our waterways that's been making | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
itself very unwelcome indeed. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
We sent Nigel Barden to find out more about the invasion | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
of the American crayfish. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:45 | |
This could be the Mississippi Delta, but it's only 20 miles | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
from the centre of London. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Dusk is the perfect time to set your crayfish trap. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:51 | |
Here on this lake near Ware, fisherman Tony Vessey is looking | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
forward to a good catch. | 0:20:54 | 0:21:01 | |
We use a bait, preferably mackerel anything that's a fishy, oily smell, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
and we just place that out in the water, make sure the zip's | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
closed and we leave them in there for approximately 24-48-hours. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:14 | |
And they clamber in and can't get out. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Yes, they can go in but they can't get back out. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:21 | |
On a good catch that would be something between 120 and 150 kilos. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Wow. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:25 | |
That's a lot of crayfish. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:29 | |
Crayfish are very tasty, and crayfish gumbo's a fantastic dish. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Our rivers, canals and water ways in London are chock full of them. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:35 | |
But this isn't a great story about food right on our doorsteps. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
It's bad news, because these are invaders, and they've nearly | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
killed off all our native species. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
But howd did they get here in the first place? | 0:21:41 | 0:21:47 | |
They were introduced. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:57 | |
They were introduced for fishery business, | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
to export to Scandinavia, back in 1976, and they were put | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
into various quarries | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
and fisheries around, generally just outside of London | 0:22:02 | 0:22:06 | |
and further, and of course they breed and they've got legs | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
and they can get out of the lakes and things like that, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
which they did, and spread around. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:19 | |
Very soon after they were introduced, it was recognised | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
at last these American crayfish that they thought were immune | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
to the crayfish plague carried it, and that will kill any non-American | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
crayfish within about two or three weeks. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:34 | |
And kill them it did. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:35 | |
Our waterways are now full of these invaders. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
the River Lea is teeming with them, and they have become a big | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
environment problem, as local fishermen have witnessed. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
They can damage the environment, they can burrow into the banks, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
they can clear natural vegetation which is on the water, | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
which fish and other water invertebrates rely on. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:58 | |
They will eat fish eggs, which stops further populations | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
of fish coming through, and occasionally they can actually | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
catch and eat small fish as well. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:08 | |
Bob Ring believes the answer is to trap them and eat them. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
So he started an organisation called Crayaway, where he buys them | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
from trappers and sells them on. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:19 | |
Crayaway I set up as the sort of pest control side | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
of things initially, with the idea of trying to get rid | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
of as many crayfish as possible. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
It seemed not much was being done about it. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
I will do my various events, so if I do a crawfish boil, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
it's a great party and everything, but we'll get through over | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
100 kilo in an evening for one of those events. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
So we do a few of those a year, they add up. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
Glastonbury Festival, get through probably getting | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
on for quarter of a tonne. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:47 | |
My best customers are the otters at the zoo. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
Absolutely every single week "Crayfish, we want crayfish, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
where's our crayfish?" | 0:23:51 | 0:23:59 | |
You're feeding them live, of course, so they can go out, and then there's | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
an element of predator. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:04 | |
Yes, exactly, so they go in live. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:05 | |
You probably see them crawling down the bottom of the pond, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
so just to give that added challenge to them, obviously they are | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
invertebrates so it's fine do that. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
invertebrates so it's fine to do that. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
They go down into the pond, they have to use the muscles, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
the senses they would do out in the wild to be | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
able to catch them. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:23 | |
The crayfish just are really a good way of giving them a natural food | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
they would eat in the wild and one that is getting them | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
using the their instincts and hunting ability as well. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
The crayfish you supply to the otters at London Zoo, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
where are they from? | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
There is a lot of crayfish in the Oxfordshire, Berkshire area, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
Gloucestershire, Hampshire, Wiltshire, Hertfordshire. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:39 | |
I've got boats up on the Thames up in Oxfordshire. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
Quite a lot within the M25 but I'm not allowed to get | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
anywhere near them. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:45 | |
Trapping these pests seems to be a piece of cake. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:51 | |
So if we have so many of them in London, why can Bob | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
trap them in the shires, but he's not allowed | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
anywhere near them here? | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
Many of the capitals waterways And although they put the non-native | 0:25:05 | 0:25:13 | |
crayfish right near the top of their rogues' gallery, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
they almost always refuse to let people trap them commercially. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
From the evidence there is on trials so far, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:24 | |
intensive trapping actually doesn't help reduce the species, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
the problem can get worse. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Crayfish are quite interesting and they actually do cannibalise, | 0:25:29 | 0:25:34 | |
so older large crayfish will eat younger crayfish as well. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
If you put down traps, even on a quite intensive basis, | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
you're more likely to get the older crayfish within the population, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
and it really just means they won't be there to keep | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
the numbers down on the younger ones, and the actual | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
population can just explode. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:52 | |
When you have a network that's all linked up, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
like the canal and river one is, it's very hard to make sure, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
even if we were successful in clearing crayfish out | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
of a stretch such as this, they could just easily just move | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
back in, into the vacated area. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
The other thing is the methods used for trapping crayfish, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
so we have these what are called pots, the little crayfish traps, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
but they will catch other things as well, and we have had a number | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
of incidents on our network over recent years, where otters and birds | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
have got caught in that. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:24 | |
You find a lot of illegal traps and this is one we found literally | 0:26:24 | 0:26:31 | |
You find a lot of illegal traps and this is one we found literally | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
just a few hundred yards from where we're standing now. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
What you can find is creatures, specifically otters, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
would be able to enter into the trap, looking | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
for the bait which is placed there to attract the crayfish, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:54 | |
but once an otter would get into it, it would find it extremely difficult | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
to get out and of course this is submerged under the water | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
and therefore the otter is going to drown. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:07 | |
The canal and river trust are aware most commercial trappers use | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
safe and legal nets, and they really do want both | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
the crayfish and the illegal trappers out of our waterways. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
So they haven't closed the door forever on allowing | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
mass trapping in London. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:23 | |
The trials going on on intensive trapping, to try its effectiveness, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
are being carried on at the moment. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
If the results show it can be done, we would certainly look into working | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
with them on the problem, because we have several | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
reasons for not doing it, but so far we've found very little | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
else that actually does work, so we've got to find some way | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
to tackle invasive species and help the native crayfish. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:49 | |
Maybe one way of helping the native crayfish back could be to stop | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
thinking of these American invaders as pests, but like the otters, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
think of them as a delicious meal. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
These are really tasty, and you can't help but thinking | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
with a move towards eating locally, that it's a great shame to eat these | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
in London you have to bring them in from elsewhere. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:13 | |
Surely monitoring, catching and eating, this is a great | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
long-term solution to keep these numbers down. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:20 | |
I have to say, the crayfish look really tasty, and the otters | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
certainly seem to agree. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:30 | |
But that's all for this week's Inside Out. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
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Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90-second update. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
Overcrowded - the number of patients on wards in England have been | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
at unsafe levels in nine out of ten hospitals this winter. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
That's according to BBC analysis. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:16 | |
NHS bosses said there were problems discharging frail patients. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 |