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Hello, I'm Sean Fletcher,
and welcome to a special edition | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
of Inside Out London ?
in which we investigate | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
the shocking truth behind
the drug sodium valproate. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
This medication
is widely used as an effective | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
treatment for epilepsy. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
But for pregnant women it can have
dangerous side effects ? | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
and in the past many mothers have
taken it while unaware of the mental | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
and physical damage it was doing
to their unborn children. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
In this programme, we'll be
revealing how the authorities | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
were fully aware of the dangers
the drug presented, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
but deliberately chose not
to inform pregnant patients. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
And we present new evidence
that suggests that ? tragically - | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
the drug's harmful effects can be
transmitted down through generations | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
of the same family. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:59 | |
Deformed, disabled, damaged. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:14 | |
Thousands of babies around
the world, genetically harmed | 0:01:14 | 0:01:19 | |
in the womb by one drug. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
She can't go
to the toilet, she can't walk. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
She can't talk. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
We bring to light the records that
show the Government knew | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
the drug causes birth defects
yet chose to hide the truth | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
from expectant mothers. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:30 | |
My mum should
not have had to have the children | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
that were affected, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:34 | |
if she knew that we were going
to have these conditions. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
Now, new scientific research warns
sodium valproate's toxic | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
legacy could be eternal,
harming generation after generation | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
In | 0:01:43 | 0:01:44 | |
It's because I took that medication,
grandkids have been affected by it. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
So many people's lives have been
affected and ruined. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:57 | |
This is all her fit medicine. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
This one here, I have
to give her three times a day, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
this one twice a day,
and this one twice a day. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:18 | |
Every morning, first thing,
Karen carefully measures out | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
the exact amount of medicine needed
to keep her daughter alive, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
to save her from falling
into a fatal coma. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
Brigit got hiccups. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
You gonna swallow it? | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
I know it's horrible. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
You gotta swallow it though. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
Brigit is 19. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
She still plays with some
of the toys she had as a baby. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:45 | |
This is the photo album I done
for Bridgit when we came home. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Pictures of her in her cot
with her toys around | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
because she could only just
lay there still with her | 0:02:51 | 0:02:57 | |
head to the side. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:58 | |
Brigit was born with a catastrophic
array of medical ailments, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
including brain damage
and spina bifida. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
She is paralyzed from
the waist down, even her bowels | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
are not fully formed. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
She can't go to toilet,
she can't walk, she can't talk. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
She can't think for herself. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
I do all Brigit's overall care. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I, I think for Brigit, I talk
for Brigit, I walk for Brigit. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:22 | |
I live for Brigit. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:29 | |
When Karen was pregnant with Brigit,
she was prescribed a high dosage | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
of the drug, sodium valproate. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:33 | |
She has epilepsy and the pills
were meant to control the seizures. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
But the powerful chemicals that
protected her health | 0:03:37 | 0:03:42 | |
damaged her daughters. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
I pop these tablets
into my system and what happens? | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
Six months down the line,
I'm under ante-natal treatment | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
and then they turn round
and look at me, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
look at the screen
and turn round and say to me | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
"What do you want to do you?" | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
"You want to have an abortion, you
are carrying a spina bifida baby?" | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
Like Bridgit, around 20,000 children
in the UK and thousands of others | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
around the world are believed
to have foetal valporate syndrome - | 0:04:08 | 0:04:15 | |
after being exposed to the powerful
drug, valproic acid, in the womb. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
Some of the children are so severely
harmed they will never develop | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
beyond the mental capabilities
of a toddler. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Others may appear fine
but will struggle with cognitive | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
and physical disabilities
throughout their lives. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:35 | |
We know from our research that
children exposed to sodium valproate | 0:04:35 | 0:04:41 | |
can be affected physically,
they can be affected mentally | 0:04:41 | 0:04:52 | |
and they can be
affected psychologically. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
These children have an increased
risk of clefting, cleft pallet | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
and these children are more prone
to spina bifida | 0:04:58 | 0:05:02 | |
or neural tube defect. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
We also know that there's
an increased risk of congenital | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
heart disease and occasionally
an increased risk of | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
kidney abnormalities. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:10 | |
Concentrate! | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
At her school in Essex,
seven year-old Beau attends special | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
PE classes to improve her motor
skills and her ability | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
to interact with others. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:25 | |
Try to keep your arm
straight ? good girl. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
That's enough, perfect. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
I've never worked with a childwith
foetal valproate syndrome before. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
Beau finds a lot of
things challenging. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
She has actually got
a diagnosis of ADHD. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
She also we feel has got problems
with her co-ordination so that's | 0:05:43 | 0:05:47 | |
being looked into in terms
of possible dyspraxia. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
Can you try with your other
hand and other foot? | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
At school, Beau needs special,
different treatment | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
to the other kids. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
But at home she is just one of three
sisters all struggling | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
with health problems,
caused by foetal valproate syndrome. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:06 | |
I don't know if it was like denial,
but I just I didn't | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
when when you see your children | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
every day you don't see them
as being different ? they're | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
just your children and for someone
to say there's something | 0:06:14 | 0:06:22 | |
wrong with your child,
you think, no, they're fine, | 0:06:22 | 0:06:25 | |
they're they're perfect ?
but obviously there is issues | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
and obviously they need
they need extra help. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:29 | |
You know it's hard. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
Their eldest daughter,
16-year-old Devon needs to be | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
constantly watched over. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
She suffers from reflex syncope,
a condition which can restrict | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
blood supply to the brain. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
I think I am a bit slower
than other children. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
I am slower in, like,
writing than others. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
I get extra time when I do
exams because it takes me | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
like a long time to understand
what the question means. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
Devon's younger sister, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
11-year-old Sienna is the sibling
most affected by the syndrome, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
leaving her with mental and physical
impairments. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:06 | |
It affects me.
I get really stressed out. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
I either start just
making lots of noises, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
or I just start screaming, screaming
or crying because it is then | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
just too much for me. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:21 | |
She has accidents, it's not every
single night she has an accident | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
but there is some kind
of leakage every day. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
She's got this condition
because of the medication | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I was taking whilst
I was pregnant with her. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
She's incontinent
and she soils as well. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
This is something
that will go on with her | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
for the rest of her life. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
As a remedy for her epilepsy, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Leanne has always been
prescribed sodium valproate. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
Yet both she and her husband say
they were never fully warned that | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
taking the drug whilst pregnant
could damage their children. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
We wasn't told, no way,
shape or form that this | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
would happen to us. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
There was no, there
was no guidelines. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
There was no information,
there was nothing. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
This is a drug that was
prescribed from a doctor | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
and this is what happened. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:08 | |
We are the ones living
with the consequences. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:15 | |
Since the anti-epilepsy drug
was launched in the 1960s | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
under various brand names,
it's estimated that | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
tens of thousands of women
around the world have taken it | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
during their pregnancies,
unaware of the dangers. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
Karen is one of them. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
I didn't think my child
was going to be | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
like how she is today. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
If I had known when Bridgit
was inside me, if I had known now | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
what I knew back then,
I wouldn't have had my child. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:47 | |
Emma and Janet also took sodium
valproate during their pregnancies. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
They say there were not aware
of any warnings and were given no | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
indication
of the danger by their doctors. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
He didn't even tell me to an effect
that I had epilepsy to start with. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:03 | |
When I got my first prescription
there was no warning | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
When I got my first prescription
there was no warning | 0:09:07 | 0:09:07 | |
in the boxes at that point,
I mean we are talking '83, '84, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
in the boxes at that point,
I mean we are talking '83, '84, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:10 | |
so there was nothing for me at all. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:16 | |
My husband and I questioned
the midwives, questioned | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
My husband and I questioned
the midwives, questioned | 0:09:18 | 0:09:19 | |
neurologists and to just be told
take this medicine, it's the best | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
neurologists and to just be told
take this medicine, it's the best | 0:09:22 | 0:09:22 | |
to control your seizures ? that's
great to control the seizures | 0:09:23 | 0:09:30 | |
but the baby. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
After their children
were born with disabilities, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
they set up a charity
to raise awareness. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
We started our national campaign
in 2013 and the main aim | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
was to get warnings on to the boxes,
on the patient information leaflets. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:48 | |
Partly as a result of their campaign
in 2016, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:58 | |
The Medicines and Health
Care Products Regulatory Agency | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
recommended that warning labels
should be featured on all | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
valproate-containing medicines. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
GPs must only prescribe the drug
to women of child bearing age | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
as a last option, after
explaining all the risks. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
But why has it taken 50 years
to get the warning out? | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
In the UK, the Government
regulates what information | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
is provided to patients and,
according to Emma and Janet, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:23 | |
it knew about the dangers
of the drug as far back as 1973. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
They discovered the evidence,
deep in the National Archives. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
There you go... | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
That a statement, that a statement
similar to that proposed by ICI | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
could be included on all relevant
data sheets but not on packaging | 0:10:36 | 0:10:43 | |
inserts, so there would be no
danger of the patients | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
themselves seeing it. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
If they hadn't of
made this decision. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:48 | |
you would have been warned. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
I'd have been warned and probably
the boys wouldn't have | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
been harmed like they were. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:54 | |
The 20,000 affected. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:55 | |
There wouldn't be that today. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
It is an extraordinary scandal. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
Since the very start
of its licensing in this country, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
there was knowledge of risk
and yet a decision to hide that | 0:11:06 | 0:11:11 | |
risk from young mothers,
a totally sort of paternalistic idea | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
that mothers might worry about it. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
Well, of course,
mothers have the right to know. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:20 | |
In a statement The Medicines
and Health Care products | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
Regulatory Agency said | 0:11:22 | 0:11:26 | |
"At the time, according
to clinical practice | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
it was for the doctor to decide how
much information a patient was given | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
about their medicine. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
Since then the need for patients
to be fully informed | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
has been underpinned
by legislation." | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
But charities say
the system of warning patients | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
is proving ineffective. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Over the last year hundreds
of babies around the world have been | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
born with sodium valproate syndrome. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
Many pharmacists and health centres
are still issuing the drug | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
in generic-packaging
with no warnings. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
We are now here in 2018
and the scenario is, | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
that woman are still given
white boxes in which there | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
are no warnings ?
there is absolutely nothing on them. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:13 | |
The fact that women are
still not being made fully aware | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
of the risks associated
with the drug is particularly | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
alarming because amongst affected
families there is growing fear | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
that foetal valproate syndrome
is actually being passed on, | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
through the genes,
from one generation to the next. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:33 | |
Three generations
of the same family. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:39 | |
Here today are Grandma, two
grown-up daughters and their kids. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Foetal valproate syndrome has
dominated their lives. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:49 | |
It's because I took that medication
that's why my kids haven't got | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
a normal life and they struggle
every single day of their life | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
to fit in and do things. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
One of my kids have tried to... | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
Couldn't cope and tried
to hang themselves. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:10 | |
If I'd known with my first couple
of children that they'd have had | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
this syndrome I could have then made
that decision whether to go | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
on and have more children. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
Sue took the drug Epilim
throughout her pregnancies. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
She only discovered it had
harmed her children after a doctor | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
visited her at home. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:29 | |
I had
pictures up on the wall of the kids | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
when they were little and as soon | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
as she walked into the room
and she seen the pictures then | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
she said are these the children
and I said yeah and she said yes | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
they've definitely got the syndrome. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
It was they had the facial features
the high forehead the upturned nose | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
and then an appointment was arranged
for all the children myself to go | 0:13:46 | 0:13:51 | |
down to Exeter to have genetic
testing done and all other kinds | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
of test done and that
and it was confirmed. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
Despite their difficulties,
Sue's daughters now have | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
children of their own. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:08 | |
In the past, Natalie
was prescribed sodium valproate | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
to control her epilepsy. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
But she says she stopped taking
the pills when she was pregnant. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:17 | |
Tanya has never taken the drug yet
both sisters believe their children | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
are displaying the symptoms
of foetal valproate syndrome. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
There's certain things | 0:14:25 | 0:14:26 | |
that they are doing,
like their behavioural ways, | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
the way they speaking. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:29 | |
It's just certain things. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:35 | |
I'm like, I remember doing things
like that when I was a kid. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
My little boy is nine. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
He's got dyspraxia,
learning difficulties, | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
a bowel condition, sensory
issues, memory problems. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
I've got two children,
both have got dyslexia. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
My daughter's got
dyslexia and dyscalculia. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
She's in special needs school. | 0:14:54 | 0:15:00 | |
Whilst researching this film,
we spoke to several families | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
who suspect that sodium
valproate is somehow just not | 0:15:04 | 0:15:08 | |
harming their children
but their grandchildren too. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
Until now, those suspicions have not
been deemed credible but we've | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
obtained the results of a major
scientific project in South Korea | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
which actually supports
the idea that the drug can | 0:15:20 | 0:15:22 | |
harm successive generations. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:30 | |
Chan Young Shin,
a Professor of Pharmacology - | 0:15:30 | 0:15:35 | |
is leading the research
that uses pregnant mice, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:36 | |
injected with the compound. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:38 | |
What does your research
actually prove? | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
What does your research
actually prove? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:43 | |
They are giving
the indication or one | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
They are giving
the indication or one | 0:15:44 | 0:15:45 | |
of the evidence that this compound
could cause autism spectrum | 0:15:45 | 0:15:46 | |
of the evidence that this compound
could cause autism spectrum | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
disorder, trans-generationally,
through the generations. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
It can give us some kind
of clue the same thing | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
is happening to humans. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
So it's kind of warning signal. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
The experiment indicates
that sodium valproate can travel | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
through DNA and afflict
successive generations | 0:16:04 | 0:16:09 | |
with mental health problems. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
In the UK, the findings
are being carefully considered | 0:16:11 | 0:16:14 | |
by the Government and have already
triggered concern amongst experts | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
on foetal valproate syndrome. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
Dr Rebecca Bromley is a leading
neuroscientist and she believes | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
the need for more research
in this area is urgent. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:29 | |
That was the first bit
of evidence that had in any species | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
that potentially might be carried
on to the next generation. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
Before this paper came out
we just didn't know. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
We had no evidence that it was
going to be an issue | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
and we were still learning
about the longer term effects | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
on the individual who had been
exposed directly to the drug. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
This is something now that
needs to be looked at it | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
as quickly as possible to give
the families some reassurance. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
The consequences are incalculable. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
How extraordinarily distressing this
must be for the families affected. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
The knowledge that this is now
in within the DNA of that family | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
and potentially transferable
from generation to generation. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
At home in Liverpool,
Tanya and Natasha | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
want to get their children formally
diagnosed but like many families | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
they are struggling to find a doctor
who even knows the syndrome exists. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:22 | |
I went to the doctors
the other day and I asked my doctor | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
a question and I said can
you tell me is there a possibility | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
this could be a part of my FACS? | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
My GP turned round and said,
"Sorry, what is FACS?" | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
I was like, "I have to keep
repeating myself" | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
and I should not have to do that. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
I said, "I should not
have to be your teacher" | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
and I walked out of the room. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
I thought, that is not my place
to explain to you what FACS is. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
Read my notes. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
Couples that have come to see me
in the South West of England, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
some have really struggled
to get their GP to refer them, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
I know that for a fact. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Just stand down next
to mum and we will try | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
and measure your head. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
It partly depends on really
the first hurdle if you | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
like, whether family | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
doctor or GP has some
knowledge or awareness | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
of the condition at all. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
Back in London, Bridgit
is becoming weaker - | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
the drugs are no longer working. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
Her brain is brain damaged
so she has only one | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
part of her brain that works
and the doctor have turned | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
round and said now, a neurologist
doctor has turned around and said | 0:18:22 | 0:18:25 | |
they can't give her any
more medication no more. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
She has different kinds
of seizures ? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
and now she could die any day. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
I love you! | 0:18:36 | 0:18:43 | |
Karen says
Bridgit isn't expected to survive | 0:18:43 | 0:18:48 | |
beyond a few more months and insists
that when that fatal moment comes, | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
she must be allowed to die in peace. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
If she was to stop breathing, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
she is not to be resuscitated;
she is to be rest in peace. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:03 | |
No-one will bring her back
alive ? | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
that's what these
letters say on this door. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:12 | |
It will be more of a relief for me
as a mother to let my little girl | 0:19:12 | 0:19:18 | |
rest in peace knowing that every day
I see my little girl having | 0:19:18 | 0:19:24 | |
a seizure in so much pain as I do. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:30 | |
That's more painful to watch
than seeing my little girl probably | 0:19:30 | 0:19:35 | |
go from me and be at peace. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:44 | |
Today, Tanya and Natasha
are heading to Liverpool's | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
Walton health centre - | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
they want to get their
children assessed | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
for foetal valproate syndrome. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
I am a little bit anxious to know | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
what is going to happen,
what he's going to say. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
I just think we need to know
whether these have got the syndrome, | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
because if these have got it
and we haven't took the medication, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
if these have got it,
is it going to get passed | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
on to their children? | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Is it going to stay
in the family for | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
as long as the family carries on? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
I'd like to try this next one
for me, please. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
Neuropsychologist,
Professor Gus Baker is the lead | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
author of the most comprehensive
research programme ever | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
conducted into children born
to mothers with epilepsy. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
We've
actually looked at the children | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
from birth and followed them up | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
over a six-year period,
assessing their development, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
their neuro development,
in terms of how well their brains | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
are working, their development
of their language, their memory | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
and their intellect. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
So talk us through the assessment, | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
what are you going
to do today, exactly? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
What I want to be
looking at is how this young boy | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
is developing. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:54 | |
The first one is really
straightforward. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Can you write your name for me? | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
I'll be
trying to get an overall picture | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
of how he is developing | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
in relation to, for example,
how his peers are developing. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
Can you draw me a house? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
How many bedrooms
has it got upstairs? | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
Two bedrooms. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
And I drew
some flowers, some leaves, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
a gate and a path. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
So, I know you cannot give us
a definitive diagnosis, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
but what are your thoughts
after that assessment? | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Well, obviously,
it is going to take me a little | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
while to score up the test
results but when I have done that, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
I'll be looking at his strengths
and weaknesses and I'll be | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
identifying them and trying to map
them on to what we understand | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
about sodium valproate and how it
affects children and then I'll | 0:21:45 | 0:21:51 | |
probably be in a good position
to provide a formulation | 0:21:51 | 0:21:56 | |
of what I think has happened to him
and what we might be able to do | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
to ameliorate those difficulties
that he is clearly having . | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
Even though it
could be years before the full | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
extent to which her grandchildren | 0:22:08 | 0:22:09 | |
extent to which her grandchildren | 0:22:09 | 0:22:10 | |
are affected is known, Sue believes,
the drug she first took nearly four | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
decades ago has caused infinite
damage to her families lineage. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
I do think my grandchildren
have been affected by it. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
I have had my worries
my kids growing up. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
I've got the worry
again with my grandkids. | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
How long is it going to go on for? | 0:22:28 | 0:22:29 | |
It's not fair, not fair at all. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
It's so wrong. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
So many people's lives have been
affected and ruined. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:38 | |
The trans-generational impact
of foetal valproate syndrome | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
could potentially remain
with families for centuries | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
and as the first generation
of children to be born | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
with the condition mature
into adults, there is growing demand | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
that the Government should pay
for their care and support. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:57 | |
In France a charity-led campaign
for compensation is being | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
supported by the Government. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
The Government decided
to create a special fund | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
to help victims. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
There is a fund that is organising
all the expertise, to appoint | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
the doctors and pay the doctors
and who are going to say | 0:23:14 | 0:23:20 | |
who will have to pay. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Until now
a campaign in the UK | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
for compensation to help affected
children has failed to receive | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
any Government backing. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
But recently the
Department of Health has initiated | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
a conversation with charities
and key MPs who have been fighting | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
for a public inquiry. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
We are in a good dialogue, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
The Minister, Lord O'Shaughnessy
appears to have taken this | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
very seriously,
is willing to engage with us. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:49 | |
He appears to be completely
conscious of the need to stop this | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
scandal continuing
and the need to recognise | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
what is happening in France. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
Something similar has to happen
here and without delay. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:04 | |
Unbelievable that the English
democracy does not work properly | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
and does not help the people. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
The people must put pressure
on their Government for that. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:19 | |
and in | 0:24:19 | 0:24:19 | |
It's a rallying call that charities
in the UK are championing. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
Emma and Janet are
at the forefront of the campaign. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
The care package is more
important because of | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
the trans-generational link now. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
The fact that our grandchildren
could be affected, you know | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
with neuro-development disorders,
possible heart malformations, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
they need care and support. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
For us it is a Government issue,
The Government has to take | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
responsibility on that matter
and make sure these children | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
are fully looked after. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
As a parent in particular
my two are a lot older now | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
they are in their 20s and it's
a worrying factor for me, | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
I'm not always going to be
here to take care of the kids | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
and to live an independent life
is going to be really, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
really difficult for them. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
Janet's two grown-up sons,
both of whom suffer | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
with the syndrome, are completely
dependent and still live at home. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
Philip is more seriously affected. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
I am 25 now and symptoms are
I can't concentrate for long, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:22 | |
When I go outside my social
interaction is zero | 0:25:22 | 0:25:32 | |
and I am very apprehensive
with going anywhere, really. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:40 | |
Both of Janet's sons have suffered
with neurological problems | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
since birth and two years ago
doctors discovered that Philip, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
like many maturing sufferers
of foetal valproate syndrome, | 0:25:48 | 0:25:54 | |
had developed yet another condition. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
After I have finished
my college course that | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
I had been on for eight years;
I was diagnosed with epilepsy, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
stress-related epilepsy. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
It is really hard for me,
it's really hard for me... | 0:26:06 | 0:26:13 | |
It's hard
for me to describe the symptoms | 0:26:13 | 0:26:22 | |
but I know it's really
difficult to live with. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:28 | |
I think it is disgusting
the way the Government are acting. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
I think they should pay compensation
to all these babies that have | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
grown up now into young adults
that are struggling. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:43 | |
Any kind of apology and compensation
might come too late | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
to help children like Bridgit. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:53 | |
It breaks my heart. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:54 | |
I picked this plot because it
is a lovely cemetery. | 0:26:54 | 0:27:04 | |
I didn't want to choose a cemetery
yet but because of how my daughter | 0:27:06 | 0:27:13 | |
is deteriorating so rapidly,
I needed to do it because I won't | 0:27:13 | 0:27:17 | |
be able to do it once
she does pass away. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
Mother's shouldn't have
to bury their daughter no | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
mother should do that. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
My family are mourning
now and will be the day | 0:27:27 | 0:27:33 | |
I lose my little girl. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:43 | |
If you are concerned
about any of the information | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
you have seen in this film,
please contact your GP urgently. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:50 | |
Do not stop taking any medication
prescribed by your doctor | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
without speaking to them first. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
And that's about all
for tonight's Inside Out. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Before we go though,
let's have a quick look at what's | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
coming up on next week's show. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
London is getting noisier. Good
living in the capital put you're | 0:28:05 | 0:28:09 | |
hearing at risk. This | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
living in the capital put you're
hearing at risk. This is the big | 0:28:12 | 0:28:13 | |
storyline at the stock well. It's
absolutely deafening. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
Could living in the capital be
putting your hearing at risk? | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
Is London too noisy? | 0:28:19 | 0:28:24 | |
The fight to get fit -
we set one family the challenge | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
of being more active. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:28 | |
And ? how Brixton became home
to London's last working windmill. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
It's really special to be in a
building that is much as it was a | 0:28:32 | 0:28:38 | |
hundred years ago. It's amazing to
see what we achieved over 200 years | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 | |
ago. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:45 | |
Tonight's programme will be
available on the iPlayer - | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
just head to our website -
bbc.co.uk/InsideOut ? | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
just click on London. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
Thanks very much for watching
? I'll see you again next week. | 0:28:55 | 0:29:01 |