Browse content similar to 29/02/2016. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!
Line | From | To | |
---|---|---|---|
We are on the rounds with the Cumbrian consultant trying | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
to find a cure for the doctor shortage. | :00:08. | :00:11. | |
One thing we have to do is ask all the doctors I meet | :00:12. | :00:14. | |
whether they are willing to work extra hours this weekend. | :00:15. | :00:17. | |
I have to be aware of the stress they are under as well. | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
I have asked somebody that and they burst into tears. | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
But if we look abroad for the fix, who is left to treat | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
Also tonight - the anguish when a loved one disappears. | :00:28. | :00:39. | |
We follow one Tyneside father's quest to find his missing son. | :00:40. | :00:44. | |
Looking out this window, I am thinking, where is Michael? | :00:45. | :00:53. | |
I am Chris Jackson and this is Inside Out. | :00:54. | :01:06. | |
Hospitals across the North are reporting a major shortage | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
A survey for Inside Out suggests one of the biggest crises | :01:10. | :01:15. | |
is that of the North Cumbria Trust, where almost a quarter of posts | :01:16. | :01:19. | |
For those that are there, that brings added pressure, | :01:20. | :01:25. | |
and this is the story of one consultant working across four wards | :01:26. | :01:28. | |
Joanna Cox has been an elderly care consultant here | :01:29. | :01:40. | |
I am a bit tired but it is Friday so that is a really good thing. | :01:41. | :01:48. | |
Staff shortages mean Joanna will look after her elderly patients | :01:49. | :01:51. | |
and also work in another three departments today. | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
The rota here for the medical staff at all grades is quite fragile | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
because of our dependence on locums, so we tend | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
A survey for Inside Out last December showed that | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
across the North almost 7% of posts for doctors and nurses were vacant. | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
..where it was 24% for doctors and 45% for consultants | :02:15. | :02:23. | |
Today, those shortages will pass Joanna's skills and her fitness. | :02:24. | :02:30. | |
One porter claimed to have done 11 miles in a shift. | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
I don't have time to go to the gym so it is good to keep running about. | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
Now, handover at the Emergency Assessment Unit. | :02:39. | :02:40. | |
He was sick as a chick yesterday, profoundly hypertensive, | :02:41. | :02:42. | |
and he looked like he was in failure with ongoing chest pain... | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
Joanna gets a call to her Elderly Care ward, | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
Morning. You all right? | :02:53. | :02:59. | |
We have been a bit worried about you. | :03:00. | :03:01. | |
I like you. Bless you. | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
I do. Oh, bless you. | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
That's a very frail lady who seemed to improve but then has | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
We have checked all the obvious treatable causes of that and have | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
I think we need to sit tight and see how she goes. | :03:21. | :03:33. | |
There are more patients here to assess. | :03:34. | :03:34. | |
because I think right now I am going to have the time | :03:35. | :03:40. | |
that I need to assess this lady. | :03:41. | :03:42. | |
Yesterday I felt much less in control. | :03:43. | :03:45. | |
How does the breathing feel just now? | :03:46. | :03:47. | |
You're not coughing up any horrible stuff? | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
I was planning to see four people on that ward. | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
I have seen three but they have called me to | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
So, pain in the chest, is that right, yeah? | :03:59. | :04:07. | |
OK, and have you had chest infection symptoms? | :04:08. | :04:14. | |
Cold symptoms? No, OK. | :04:15. | :04:15. | |
Right, the question is whether this could be a blood clot on the lung. | :04:16. | :04:22. | |
So the question is whether we need to get a scan of your lungs to make | :04:23. | :04:26. | |
In emergency admissions, they have a staffing problem. | :04:27. | :04:34. | |
I can't do Sunday day but through the week... | :04:35. | :04:38. | |
We have had staffing shortages and difficulty recruiting | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
Unfortunately, we have just got to try and do what we are doing now | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
We are a long way from the cities, and places where people | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
want to build their lives, and too many of our consultant | :04:53. | :05:01. | |
workforce are locums, and the trainee doctors, | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
can only be supervised by certified consultants, | :05:04. | :05:04. | |
The trust also has a history and that is a major cause | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
Staff told Inside Out last year that transferring services to Carlisle | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
was hard on patients - a claim that the trust denies. | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
North Cumbria is one of three areas targeted by the NHS success regime. | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
If you have a reputation issue then some doctors won't want to | :05:25. | :05:30. | |
If they don't come and work here, then you have a difficulty | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
What are you actually doing to the process? | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
The first thing is trying to create a new partnership with doctors | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
So that when there is a place in difficulty, doctors will come | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
from different parts of the NHS instead of locums. | :05:47. | :05:52. | |
We need to build a reputation that this is the right place to come | :05:53. | :05:55. | |
This is the right place to pursue a special interest. | :05:56. | :06:03. | |
It is nearly 12 now and I am now back to the unit that I started | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
Right, so I have got for people to see here, | :06:07. | :06:12. | |
Our worry is that this pancreas problem is lingering. | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
We need to decide whether we just battle on the antibiotics, | :06:19. | :06:26. | |
which might well be what we do, or whether actually we need to think | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
I don't think they are letting it show, being under pressure. | :06:30. | :06:36. | |
They are just trying to get on with it. | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
I've got about four patients I already know I need | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
I am going to get some lunch, which is good, because yesterday | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
We are very short on nursing staff in the ward so one thing to do is go | :06:50. | :06:59. | |
round this afternoon and ask all the doctors I meet | :07:00. | :07:01. | |
whether they are willing to work extra hours this weekend. | :07:02. | :07:05. | |
I need to check who is already scheduled to work because it | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
will just annoy them if I go, can you work an extra shift? | :07:09. | :07:11. | |
You don't want to work extra hours this weekend, do you? | :07:12. | :07:17. | |
Yes, that is OK, or any hours, 95 or... | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
Great, so that was the second person I asked. | :07:25. | :07:32. | |
The stress that they are under as well. | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
So it has happened that I have asked somebody that then burst into tears. | :07:38. | :07:42. | |
So far, Joanna has covered three different departments. | :07:43. | :07:57. | |
Now she is called to a surgical ward. | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
There is not a junior doctor present so it is the consultant practitioner | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
who is looking after the patient on this ward. | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
I think we are thinking at the stairs might be a bit | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
of a worry for you at home so I think that is what we will do | :08:12. | :08:14. | |
Think about a bed downstairs and then we will get you home. | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
I was going to say, it will have to... | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
They do work very, very hard, all of them. | :08:23. | :08:25. | |
They are always happy to do things for you. | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
I think everybody is working very hard. | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
I work with people I respect and trust and I also really | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
like them, so people are vigilant for signs of stress in each other | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
But high-pressure work like this could put job applicants. | :08:44. | :08:52. | |
Is it not a fact that Cumbria is on regrettable now? | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
There are junior doctors coming to work here. | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
All the services are under review to make sure that there | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
is a contingency plan, and to make sure that we can cope. | :09:05. | :09:07. | |
In the meantime, there are lots of locums in place. | :09:08. | :09:09. | |
We are finding a way of making the services work safely. | :09:10. | :09:18. | |
North Cumbria may be top of the list when it comes to vacancies | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
but our survey shows that other trusts are having problems. | :09:22. | :09:24. | |
County Durham and Darlington trust, have had 13% of doctors posts | :09:25. | :09:26. | |
At York Teaching Hospital, it was 11%, and at South Tyneside | :09:27. | :09:34. | |
After checking more patients, Joanna heads back to the office. | :09:35. | :09:39. | |
Yay! Good. | :09:40. | :09:48. | |
An afternoon's worth of e-mails need processing. | :09:49. | :09:55. | |
We are running at close to personal capacity for working. | :09:56. | :09:57. | |
The really bad days, I have snapped at staff, | :09:58. | :09:59. | |
6.20pm, and Joanna's working day ends. | :10:00. | :10:03. | |
I did everything that I wanted to do to day. | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
I had lunch today so that is brilliant. | :10:08. | :10:09. | |
I will go home, Friday evening, possibly have a glass | :10:10. | :10:11. | |
That survey suggested that almost three quarters of trusts | :10:12. | :10:23. | |
across England will try to fix that serious shortage in medical staff | :10:24. | :10:25. | |
But, by luring foreign doctors here, is the NHS simply creating | :10:26. | :10:35. | |
I have been to one Eastern European country to ask if we are getting | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
their doctors on the cheap, without any regard | :10:43. | :10:43. | |
Did your tummy get bigger, basically? | :10:44. | :11:09. | |
It is a world-class health system, the NHS. | :11:10. | :11:13. | |
I get an opportunity to learn something new and not worry | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
Leon Danaila practices brain surgery back in Romania. | :11:18. | :11:26. | |
TRANSLATION: I don't have a large fortune. | :11:27. | :11:28. | |
I think I am the poorest doctor in the world. | :11:29. | :11:34. | |
The rich, the NHS, sucks in talent from around the world at the expense | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
Leon Danaila is removing a brain tumour. | :11:41. | :11:56. | |
TRANSLATION: If the doctor is in good health, it is good | :11:57. | :12:04. | |
He is one of thousands who could not retire even if they wanted to. | :12:05. | :12:20. | |
It means medicine in Romania is increasingly becoming | :12:21. | :12:30. | |
Last year, there were more than 8500 doctors over the age of 60. | :12:31. | :12:37. | |
Compare that with 1,300 under the age of 30. | :12:38. | :12:46. | |
Across Bucharest, students from the Carol Davila medical school. | :12:47. | :12:50. | |
In Britain, it costs just under ?200,000 to train a medic. | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
But it costs next to nothing to take one ready trained from here. | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
So, in effect, Romania is subsidising our health service. | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
The United Kingdom is on top of my list. | :13:05. | :13:16. | |
My first and, technically, only choice, is the UK. | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
They will join around 2,000 Romanians practising in Britain. | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
They can earn ten times what they get here. | :13:26. | :13:30. | |
The high wage is really the main reason I would go abroad. | :13:31. | :13:35. | |
And there is another way that Romania subsidises the NHS. | :13:36. | :13:39. | |
Believe it or not, there are British students training here in Bucharest. | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
Britain limits its medical school places. | :13:44. | :13:45. | |
It even cut than three years ago, because the Government thought | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
there would be too many hospital doctors in future. | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
So, British students rejected by our medical schools come | :13:53. | :13:54. | |
to countries like Romania instead. | :13:55. | :13:56. | |
Once they are qualified, we snapped them up, despite seeing | :13:57. | :14:02. | |
Like Arran Williamson, who has been studying | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
And Anil Velivela who has been here for three. | :14:07. | :14:13. | |
I didn't get a place at a UK university and I read | :14:14. | :14:16. | |
about the opportunities to study abroad. | :14:17. | :14:19. | |
The classes themselves are in English. | :14:20. | :14:20. | |
I will be fully qualified to do the job. | :14:21. | :14:28. | |
It is a little loophole and I was very surprised when I read | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
about it but it benefits me so I am happy about it. | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
Like the Romanians, they have training which also costs | :14:35. | :14:36. | |
Back with our doctors, Leon and Luisa. | :14:37. | :14:45. | |
Both are concerned about the exodus of medics to countries like Britain. | :14:46. | :14:59. | |
TRANSLATION: Yes, they are a loss to the Romanian health system. | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
We are not encouraging enough junior doctors to stay and it is not only | :15:03. | :15:09. | |
about the pay, it is about investing in the hospitals. | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
Proper services to support the patients. | :15:15. | :15:22. | |
Our hospitals scour the world with shopping lists of doctors. | :15:23. | :15:24. | |
Mark has made it his business to supply them with talent. | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
There are hundreds and thousands of agencies who are | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
The most sought after specialties are acute medicine, accident | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
and emergency, anesthesia, intensive care, paediatrics, | :15:39. | :15:39. | |
Across Bucharest, 87-year-old cardiologist Leonida Gherasim. | :15:40. | :15:51. | |
It is claimed that poaching the young is making health care | :15:52. | :15:57. | |
dangerous. He not only lose individuals, | :15:58. | :15:59. | |
you lose their capacity In great towns, maybe | :16:00. | :16:02. | |
there are enough doctors, but in important towns with more | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
than 100,000 inhabitants, the medicine in these places | :16:09. | :16:11. | |
is done with danger. That is because specialists have | :16:12. | :16:18. | |
to work in areas they know little about - for example, | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
cardiologists could be required Short and medium-term, | :16:23. | :16:24. | |
I want to train and to I will give a phone call | :16:25. | :16:37. | |
to your wife to tell her It is a privilege to help my | :16:38. | :16:45. | |
patients and to be It is both a duty | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
and a pleasure, yes. In Bucharest, Leon's patient has | :16:50. | :16:56. | |
regained consciousness. Tes, certain illnesses or situations | :16:57. | :17:00. | |
could make me step aside. With the present trend, | :17:01. | :17:21. | |
many of the doctors we will meet over the next decade will no doubt | :17:22. | :17:32. | |
come from places like Romania. The question is, should Britain | :17:33. | :17:36. | |
expand its medical schools or is it just cheaper and easier to rely | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
on poorer countries like Romania Doctors have always supported | :17:42. | :17:43. | |
free movement of labour. The British Medical Association | :17:44. | :17:50. | |
is concerned about the effect Overseas doctors have always been | :17:51. | :17:52. | |
the backbone of the National Health I do get worried when I hear | :17:53. | :18:01. | |
about the way in which we can go abroad and deliberately recruit too | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
many people to the extent that there are some countries | :18:07. | :18:09. | |
where a substantial proportion of their doctors are coming to work | :18:10. | :18:11. | |
in the United Kingdom. It could be worrying, I think, | :18:12. | :18:13. | |
for those countries, because we're not | :18:14. | :18:15. | |
doing them a service. Early last December, we ask | :18:16. | :18:18. | |
the Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt for an interview to discuss | :18:19. | :18:21. | |
the issues raised here. A month and a half | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
later, he declined. So, we asked the Health | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
Minister Ben Gummer, and last week, almost | :18:28. | :18:29. | |
a month later, he declined. We wanted to ask them | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
on your behalf, why we can't train Would the system collapse | :18:34. | :18:36. | |
without the foreign staff? And is it wrong to exploit | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
the health systems The Department of Health did issue | :18:43. | :18:44. | |
a statement which said staffing was a priority and there are now | :18:45. | :18:53. | |
more than 10,700 additional And more than 55,000 | :18:54. | :18:56. | |
doctors in training. Overseas staff are crucial | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
to the NHS but we must also train Experts were reviewing the number | :19:01. | :19:04. | |
of medical degree places. It is pretty clear that in places | :19:05. | :19:12. | |
like Romania that review Whether by Twitter or e-mail, | :19:13. | :19:14. | |
that we know what you think about how the NHS is trying to cope | :19:15. | :19:24. | |
with the doctor shortage. All my contact details | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
are on screen now. Hardly a week goes by without a news | :19:28. | :19:37. | |
story about someone Police investigated thousands | :19:38. | :19:40. | |
of cases across the Northeast Most are found within a matter | :19:41. | :19:45. | |
of days but for some the agonising As we discovered when we follow one | :19:46. | :19:50. | |
Tyneside father who is desperate Every two minutes, | :19:51. | :19:57. | |
someone in Britain disappears. Most will be found but, every year, | :19:58. | :20:08. | |
2,000 people who go missing This is Michael's home and he lived | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
here until he was last seen He was just staying up most nights | :20:12. | :20:35. | |
and listening to music. I lent him this Fleetwood Mac album | :20:36. | :20:48. | |
and I had had a bit of bother trying Whenever I left here | :20:49. | :20:54. | |
it was, love you, dad. When I think about it, | :20:55. | :21:06. | |
it is a bit upsetting, but that was just the sort | :21:07. | :21:09. | |
of person he was. I never told him but | :21:10. | :21:12. | |
I should have done. When he was 17 years old, | :21:13. | :21:26. | |
his mother died in his And I think a traumatic experience | :21:27. | :21:29. | |
like that can affect anybody. He suffered what they call | :21:30. | :21:37. | |
a psychosis, which I was ignorant This is the last sighting of Michael | :21:38. | :21:40. | |
on CCTV three months ago. Paul believes his son | :21:41. | :21:51. | |
could be anywhere in the UK. We did set up a Facebook account | :21:52. | :21:55. | |
called Help Find Michael Whinham. We have had a fantastic response | :21:56. | :22:00. | |
throughout the country. A message has been posted which says | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
that a man looking like his son has been spotted in the | :22:06. | :22:08. | |
North of Scotland. And the lady in Elgin said | :22:09. | :22:11. | |
on the Thursday she was shopping and she said she recognised | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
Michael's face. He's my son and obviously he has got | :22:17. | :22:22. | |
a problem and I don't know what that problem is so, | :22:23. | :22:32. | |
being a father, I would go In Elgin, Paul puts up posters | :22:33. | :22:34. | |
and talks to locals but there is Without any fresh leads, | :22:35. | :22:46. | |
Paul has come to Northumbria Police to talk to the officer | :22:47. | :22:53. | |
handling the case. More recently, we have had | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
a sighting in the Metro In general, obviously, | :22:57. | :22:59. | |
we are keeping our mind open The thing that has got everybody | :23:00. | :23:06. | |
mystified is the fact that, When there is money going | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
into the bank account? From our point of view, | :23:13. | :23:16. | |
we need people to come forward if they have got a sighting or any | :23:17. | :23:19. | |
relevant information, to bring that forward to us, | :23:20. | :23:21. | |
so we can act upon that. When does it come to a point that | :23:22. | :23:25. | |
you think you have done enough? If we get information and that | :23:26. | :23:28. | |
comes in, we will follow If it comes a point where that | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
information is drying up, then we haven't got very much | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
that we can act upon, but we do have a process in place | :23:35. | :23:37. | |
where we reviewed them monthly, and then yearly after that, | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
but we always keep them open. Michael is just one of the 40 | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
long-term missing people that Helen It is really difficult | :23:46. | :23:48. | |
for the family, day in, day out, not knowing what has happened | :23:49. | :23:54. | |
to their loved one. Paul is regularly on the telephone | :23:55. | :23:56. | |
to us, on a weekly basis, daily basis, just going over things | :23:57. | :23:59. | |
that have happened or It is frustrating, from one point | :24:00. | :24:02. | |
of view, that there has been no progress, but sometimes | :24:03. | :24:10. | |
no news is good news. Because if anything seems to be | :24:11. | :24:19. | |
wrong happened to Michael, The more time passes, | :24:20. | :24:21. | |
the longer the torment. Paul is having to face up | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
to the possibility it may take Today, he is meeting | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
Sandra Flintoff. Her son Craig went missing | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
in Loughborough in 2003. I still get very tearful and I can | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
still become very upset. Basically, it is affecting | :24:38. | :24:47. | |
your whole life, really. Absolutely, your full life | :24:48. | :24:51. | |
is turned upside down. But in my heart, I know that my boy | :24:52. | :24:53. | |
would not want to hurt us And if Craig is out there, | :24:54. | :24:56. | |
I think he will be very surprised at just how distressed | :24:57. | :25:00. | |
and hurt we have been. Because, you know, | :25:01. | :25:02. | |
they are your children, and it doesn't matter how | :25:03. | :25:04. | |
old they get, you do not When you haven't got a final answer, | :25:05. | :25:11. | |
your mind works double overtime and you start thinking of the bad | :25:12. | :25:20. | |
things that they could have possibly | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
happened... I have been to the negatives | :25:24. | :25:24. | |
and you go through some terrible, terrible times, if your son | :25:25. | :25:28. | |
is in fine, and I hope You feel as if you can't | :25:29. | :25:31. | |
start living again. Life has to go on and 13 years down | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
the line we are still here. Someone once said to me, | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
it is like a prodigal son And I just looked at this person | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
and said, I would open my arms My advice to you is, | :25:47. | :25:53. | |
just let people help you. Because you can't do it | :25:54. | :25:59. | |
all by yourself. That was a really, really helpful | :26:00. | :26:03. | |
experience with Sandra, because Michael, although he has | :26:04. | :26:05. | |
been missing three months, and it seems a long time, | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
but when Craig has been missing 13 years, Sandra is still thinking | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
positively, and it gives me Paul is determined to leave no stone | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
unturned on the hunt for his son. Looking out this window, | :26:17. | :26:27. | |
thinking, where is Michael? He has travelled to London, | :26:28. | :26:34. | |
the base for the country's only charity aimed at reuniting | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
missing people and their families. We are here for you and the family | :26:42. | :26:44. | |
of anyone who has gone We can produce publicity, | :26:45. | :26:51. | |
with the police, where we create a poster of Michael and we can then | :26:52. | :26:57. | |
distribute that across the country. Publicity really is there to reach | :26:58. | :27:05. | |
out to this person themselves. The messaging on the poster | :27:06. | :27:08. | |
is directed to the missing person, to say, we are here for | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
you if you need help, Obviously, my first priority | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
is to find out if my son He might not want to come home, | :27:16. | :27:21. | |
which is his choice. That is where our | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
helplines come into it. If they want to let their family | :27:26. | :27:28. | |
know they are OK, we can take a message and we can pass that | :27:29. | :27:31. | |
onto the family member So, just before we go, we have got, | :27:32. | :27:34. | |
hot off the presses, this is the poster we have | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
created for Michael. We have done a few of them, | :27:40. | :27:41. | |
so you can take some with you. People can also download this | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
from the website as well, so if you have got family | :27:45. | :27:47. | |
and friends who want to, they can, and we will also show | :27:48. | :27:49. | |
that on social media, Paul is finding it hard to come | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
to terms with the chance that he may I think he has just got something | :27:53. | :28:07. | |
to do with his head and things have I don't know what the state | :28:08. | :28:14. | |
of his mental health is at the moment but I sincerely | :28:15. | :28:22. | |
believe you still alive. Until we have a body, | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
as far as I am concerned, And, of course, if Michael is found, | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
we will be sure to let you know, | :28:29. | :28:39. |