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Use the drug in one part of the North, you'll

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In another, the police will come knocking.

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You feel that pain and it goes through you.

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If I had any hair left, I'd tear it out.

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Has the Northern Power has run out of steam?

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The big goal here is to try and turn around something that has blighted

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our country for 100 years which is the North-South divide

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Ken Loach's gritty new film about life

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on benefits puts Newcastle in the global spotlight,

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but will the city be cast in the right light?

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In the film, the people are warm-hearted,

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generous spirited, show solhdarity for the people in trouble.

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I'm Chris Jackson and this is Inside Out.

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Cannabis users in the North say they re facing a legal muddle.

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Can they can use the drug untroubled by police

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The Police Commissioner in County Durham says his officers

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have better things to do with their time

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His opponents say they wish he d shut up.

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The marijuana debate has reached a new high.

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The law says cannabis has no medicinal value.

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Possessing, growing, distributing or selling it

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But sometimes, it's not as simple as that.

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Trevor Coleman prepares to face the day by rolling a joint.

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Pains through my back and right down my thigh.

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Trevor used to work as a cable installer about back problels

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and depression meant he had to give up work.

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It can last for hours on end where I want to cry at times.

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If I had any hair left, I'd tear it out.

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After taking cannabis oil on a piece of bread

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and smoking a joint, Trevor says the pain is almost gone.

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I can move around quite freely, quite happily.

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I mean, I can still feel it, don't get us wrong.

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The tension is right to my waist and back, but...

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You know, everything just fdels far more relaxed.

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I'm miserable on what I get from the doctors.

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Mark, who is married with two kids,

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has been using cannabis medicinally for around ten xears.

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I suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder.

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I was a witness to domestic abuse when I was a child.

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I've had every prescription under the sun thrown at us,

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in all honesty, over the ye`rs, and nothing seemed to work.

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But he says cannabis does what prescription drugs can't do.

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Stopped my mind racing so that I could rationalise things more where

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It did seem to work better than a lot

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of the conventional medicines I'd been given

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by the doctors over the years.

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But what Mark and Trevor are doing is illegal.

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Recently, an all-party parlhamentary group called

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for controlled medicinal usd of raw cabinets to be legalised.

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8 million people in this country suffer

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It based its call on the findings of a research review by

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Newcastle-based neurologist and campaigner Professor Mike B`rnes.

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I'm here at Westminster to make the case

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The Government is saying it has no medicinal value.

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Chronic pain, anxiety, nausea and vomiting after

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chemotherapy and the managelent of spasticity, painful muscle spasm.

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And I think it is time now to legalise the drug

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so that tens of thousands of people to be conservative should be

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helped by prescription of this drug with proper safeguards,

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An argument rejected by opponents who say using

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We stand along with the world health organisation report on it in 19 7

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which said it was seriously mentally harmful.

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There is nothing since 1997 that really affects that.

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The by-products of cannabis, they affect

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the brain in mature adults, they affect

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the brain in teenagers and they affect

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But there is no disagreement that cannabis users are breaking the law

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as it stands and they'll be punished if they are caught.

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It's not illegal to possess cannabis seeds.

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Growing cannabis is illegal yet in public

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places across the region, there are large numbers

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We've been told that people take the seeds, they drop them in

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the ground and then a few months later, they come back and they can

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Now, the chances of catching somebody who does something

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American police destroyed the "loco weed" as they call it in 938.

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Whereever the butt of a marhjuana cigarette is thrown, plants grow up

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from the seeds and if not properly checked, the plants becomes

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For more than a year, Durham Police have been loud and

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saying they're not going after small-time personal users

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Date of release to the BBC tnder the Freedom of Information @ct

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shows that over the last four years charges

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for cannabis possession in Durham

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Durham's Police and Crime Commissioner, Ron Hogg,

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has called for medicinal usd of cannabis to be legalised.

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I mean, he represents all of those people in Durh`m.

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Not all of those people will want cannabis moralise and legalhsed

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A lot of your viewers will know somebody who has been

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damaged by cannabis and I don't think they'll be with him.

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Drugs use is cultural, so when a Chief Constable

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speaks about legalising a drug,

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or normalising a drug, or the

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Police and Crime Commissiondr speaks about it, they effect the ctlture

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and I think they act improperly when they do that.

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The National Drug Prevention Alliance would like you

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That doesn't mean to say that I should be silent.

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I think I'm representing vidws of many, many people

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in our communities and as I say, I've had no adverse

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reaction from members of our community.

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Has the Government asked yot to shut up on this?

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They may actually be very h`ppy if I didn't speak out.

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I did get some support from my Police and

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Crime Commissioner colleaguds across the country.

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One of them said, quite categorically, do you want to

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concentrate on tackling cannabis users or child sexual abuse?

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Across the region, it's a confused picture.

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In the Cumbria, Northumbria and North Yorkshire Police

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possession fell by 66% in the last four years.

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Cautions fell by 67%, more than in Durham.

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But in Cleveland, charges rose by 110% and cautions by 53%.

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So there are forces in the region that are even more

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hands off than Durham and others that are clamping down.

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Recreational and medicinal users like Michael say

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Depending on what area you live in depends

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on whether your door's going in or not.

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Just a joint in your hand could result in a fine, a c`ution or

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it might result in nothing `part from the joint being ticked off you,

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or they turn a blind eye and just look the other way and walk away.

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Just depending on the area xou live in and that police force and that

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police officer that's going to be stopping you.

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Some drug users tell as you've left them in limbo now.

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How many drugs are arrested on a Friday and Saturday night?

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The police do not arrest every drunk.

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We couldn't arrest everyone who is actually smoking cannabis.

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Does that mean we are condoning cannabis use, does it mean we are

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It's just a matter of resources as against the ability to ddliver

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But isn't your approach inconsistent?

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Because you're targeting the dealers but you're

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allowing the users to continue who are then paying the dealers

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But we must actually face the reality of the situation.

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There is no way that the police service,

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particularly with contracting numbers and so forth, can totally

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For cannabis users, the medhcinal benefits of the drug are cldar.

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It's doing what I wanted to do so I can

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crack on and live a halfway reasonable life.

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Would you rather illegally treat yourself and be healed

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or would you rather be legally ill and be a strain

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I'm not in a perfect place, but I'm in a better place than H was.

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Last month, the Government said it has no plans to legalise medicinal

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What's your take on the cannabis debate?

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I, Daniel Blake, Ken Loach's new film

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set in Newcastle goes on general release today.

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The award-winning film is about a carpenter struggling

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to claim benefits and had its premiere in Newcastle.

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An indictment of the benefits system or a work of fiction?

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I've been to meet the director to find out.

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Ken Loach makes a very modest entrance.

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Loach is here with his leading man Dave Johns for the

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I'm just wiring you up with a microphone.

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The great director appears to be impressed by Inside Ott.

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I, Daniel Blake is a film about a carpenter who is unemploydd after

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I'm afraid you must continue to look for work.

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Or your benefit payments will be frozen.

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He befriends Katie, a single mother from London.

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You've done nothing to be ashamed of.

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They come up against the benefits system.

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There's rules here, rules that we have to stick to, OK?

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Its intent is to drive people out of taking benefits.

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There is a conscious cruelty in the way

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the most vulnerable people are treated.

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You don't know what I've done here, do you?

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The Government is obviously going to turn around and

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say, well, we need a system that gets benefits to those that need it,

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I mean, people are forced to apply for jobs that they

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For the first time in his life, Daniel

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has to use a computer to apply for jobseeker's allowance.

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He's helped by a staff member who is stamped

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Actually, can I have a word now in my office, thank you?

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You know we've spoken about this before.

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You paint a pretty brutal phcture of the civil servants,

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I mean, do you think you're being fair to them?

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Well, the civil servants who work in the job centres

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I think are in an intolerable position and we met many,

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many who have left that work because of the pressure

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Do you mind if this young lass signs on first?

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Dave Johns is better known as a stand-up comedian.

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I got asked to come in for a couple of castings.

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I thought, if I keep going `nd doing these

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improvisations, what a story I've got that

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I wasn't even thinking about getting the part.

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You still don't get this, do you, Mr Blake?

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This is an agreement between you and the state.

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Blake falls foul of the system of punishments,

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You will attend if you want to proceed with

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Then you will be referred for a sanction.

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Does the Government not to have some responsibility though, have some

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control over how we spend otr money which we are told is limited?

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Yes, the Government has a responsibility.

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25% of people think that there is a huge amount

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of fraudulent behaviour by people gaining benefits.

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The film is shot chronologically, in sequencd.

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The actors never get a complete script.

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All I knew is I was Daniel Blake, I was a widow

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and I'd been looking after her.

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I had a massive heart attack and I was going for

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And that's all I knew and each day, I would sit

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in the house and a little noise would come through thd

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letterbox and there'd be two or three pages of script whhch I'd

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learn and then I'd go in thd next day and we do it, you know?

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We try and take them through the story like

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characters was experienced ht in real life.

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And if you do it really realistically, it sounds right.

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We hear it, what do you mean by that?

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The whole scene has to work.

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So the people who are in shot who are

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supported by the reality of the scene around them, it helps,

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I mean, we'd never have put two lights up like

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Because it interferes with a sense of being in thd cafe.

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The lack of feedback can sometimes spook Loach's actors.

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I never knew how I was doing in the film.

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People were saying to me, he hasn't said

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anything to you so you're doing it right.

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The film has already won the Palme d'Or,

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the highest prize at the Cannes Film Festival.

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Johns has been tipped as a new talent.

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I don't know if you've seen what the LA Times has said,

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Apparently you've got new dramatic chops.

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Somebody sent me a thing and it said, have you

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And it's got Denzel Washington, Tom Hanks and then at 20 it's got me

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sandwiched between Jake Gyllenhaal and Colin F`rrell.

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Why particularly Newcastle in the end?

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Everyone knows it's a very strong, rich, well-defined character.

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There is a sense of dignity about the north-dast

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And part of the story of the film is about

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Daniel trying to keep his self-respect,

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Katie loses her benefits and goes without

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You said that yesterday and the day before.

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A key scene was shot at Newcastle's west end

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food bank where Loach spent time researching.

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One thing that really struck us they don't talk about them

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They talk about them doing their shopping.

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And I think that's a really generous way of saying,

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look, you're not humiliated, having to come here

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Real food bank staff and clhents featured in the film.

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It was one of the most fantastic experiences of my life.

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I feel that the system has let people down, absolutely.

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And the only way of trying to cope with that

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is to give people enough confidence and to make them feel worthx again

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Do you know how many applications they got from that

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But there are moments of humour in a grim story.

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We should all be drinking a lot more bloody coffee.

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I said we should all be drinking a lot more bloody coffee, then.

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LOACH: We've always had comedy in the film really,

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It's the humour of observation, how people are.

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And in this one, there's thd comedy of the grim comedy of bureatcracy.

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You know, the fatuous questions you get asked.

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And then you go through the whole process

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Did you weave any of your own gags into it?

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Audience reaction on that night's Newcastle premiere

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I think the message is the most important thing.

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It could be in any city in England today.

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Decision-makers are going to be sending you a letter

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You want to tell the truth, don't you?

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I think Geordies will appreciate that.

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It's obvious, there's not enough jobs.

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Well, you'll be at the back of the queue,

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Can I thank you very much indeed for your time?

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Did you tell him off about the lighting?

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Ken Loach really doesn't like lights.

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And you can find out what all the fuss is

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about for yourselves, as the film

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has gone on general release at selected cinemas from today.

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George Osborne had a big idda, to help the North

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But in the uncertainties of the post-Brexit world,

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what has happened to his pl`n for a Northern powerhouse?

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Well, Toby Foster has been to ask the man himself.

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The nation's wealth was built on the graft

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This slick promotional video is how the Government

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But just what is the northern powerhouse?

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We cannot live in a country where we've only got

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There's not really anything in London to

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draw me away from such a beautiful place as this.

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The big goal here is to try and turn around

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something that has blighted our country

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for 100 years, which is the North-South divide.

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Since the vote to leave the EU, many aspects of

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life in the UK have been overshadowed by post-Brexit

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I've come to York, home of the Europhile.

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58% of the electorate here voted to to remain in the EU.

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Two weeks after the nation voted to leave the EU, James Wharton,

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the pro-Brexit minister for the northern powerhouse, came to

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York to visit the newly crowned best high in the country,

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I wanted to test the mood hdre and see what effect Brexit

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A Dutch flower exporter had just arrived with a

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delivery which had become 20% more expensive because

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At the moment, we only export to the UK,

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The shops are going to buy less quantity of flowers

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because they have to pay more and they are

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And that's bad news for florist Richard Bothamldy.

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It might mean that we might lose these fantastic lorries

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coming in with such a wonderful supply of fresh flowers.

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And there's no way we can grow them in England.

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We don't have the weather, the conditions.

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Next door, Lee Preston and his wife Lucy opened thd

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Stanley and Ramona coffee shop three years ago with the redundancy

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I've lived in the North my whole life pretty much.

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I've never seen much evidence of a northern powerhouse.

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Because the things that are made in the north,

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industry, etc, it's not there any more, really.

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The darkening skies seem to reflect the mood here.

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And as the rain began to fall, the Minister

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for the northern powerhouse was as unprepared for the wdather as

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his fellow Brexiteers seem to be for a future outside the EU.

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but already he is boosted the local economy because, like me,

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If the northern powerhouse is going to deliver,

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it needs to rebalance that dconomy to create growth across the north

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that matches the growth we've seen elsewhere in the country.

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That will mean more long-term investment.

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This is about taking it to the next level.

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Four months on and after George Osborne's sacking, J`mes

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Wharton has been moved to another department and there is a ndw

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minister for the northern powerhouse.

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As somebody who is from the North, a northerner, I have always argued

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that we make better decisions for ourselves and we

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require a mayor as part of that because we expect there to be a

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Following on from London's layor, there are going to be votes for

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so-called metro mayors in Manchester, Liverpool, Tees Valley

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and right here in Sheffield, where just four years ago

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in a referendum, voters rejected the idea

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Critics fear the Government will use devolution

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of power to shift the blame to local governments

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for the deep cuts in services.

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But the think tank Centre For Cities is more positive

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about the idea of devolving financial powers through

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There's a big debate about whether devolution is about

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managing cuts or if it's about making sure you can make

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So what we're doing to devolution is giving places the chance

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to take their own decisions about what works.

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People in Whitehall don't know what's going to work best

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250 civil service jobs in Sheffield at the Department for

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Business, Innovation and Skills are being cut.

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Many staff working on the concept

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of the northern powerhouse face losing their jobs

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The irony of this isn't lost on them.

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They moved their departments out of Whitehall.

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The Government are looking in the wrong direction with

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Nearby in Rotherham, private sector jobs are being

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created, but this has nothing to do with the northern powerhousd.

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On education and the nearby centre to trade sentences. If you're going

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to keep our brightest and bdst in the north, we need to make sure they

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are well-paid, skilled jobs to keep them away from the of London. I m on

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my way to meet a man who, whth a first-class masters and doctorate in

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physics from Oxford Univershty, could have had his pick of high tech

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jobs anywhere in the countrx. Most of my friends are from Oxford and

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went off to London. Or other major cities around the world. But Richard

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found work here in his home in the Lake District. He is working on the

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prototype cable that will h`ve a 30 year life span three miles beneath

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the sea and plugs that can handle the output of a small nucle`r power

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station. I was afraid that H might have to get a job in the sotth-east

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if I wanted to work in rese`rch and development, so I was delighted when

:24:52.:24:55.

I had the opportunity to cole up and do some high-tech work in the

:24:56.:24:59.

north-west. Even within this company, there is enough varied work

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to keep you going on a long career. I mean, I have been here for four

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years now and I have had thd chance to work on brand-new research. I

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have been able to do mechanhcal design, Electrical design, testing

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of components that I have spent so long working on. But for

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it's not all about the job. This is it's not all about the job. This is

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the landscape that is around him on his commute to work. So as xou cycle

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to work through all of this every morning, do you ever wonder what the

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rather it would be like? I prefer not to. I prefer to just enjoy the

:25:32.:25:36.

ride into work and on a day like today enjoyed the sunshine `nd the

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peace and quiet. There's not really anything in London to strongly away

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from such a beautiful place as this. But Richard's employer is Gdrman and

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investment is key if the northern powerhouse is going to work. They

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have already invested heavily in the North including this wind ttrbine

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blade factory in Hull. Now they say Brexit threatens such investment in

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the future. Short-term, in terms of any investment decisions yot might

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want to make here, especially those which result in exporting to the

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European Union, they will bd on ice. There is no question about that

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Doctor Craig Berry is a polhtical economist at Sheffield Univdrsity

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specialising in the Northern economy. He fears Brexit poses a

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major threat to the success of the northern powerhouse. The Brdxit vote

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was a vote to take back control but it actually undermines the `bility

:26:30.:26:33.

of the North to take back control, primarily because the citrus addict

:26:34.:26:36.

effect of the investment fund is being withdrawn from the region and

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the North was in receipt of several billions of pounds over sevdn years

:26:41.:26:44.

up to 2020 from these funds from the EU and it is quite uncertain how

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much of that will actually now end up in the region. What Goodxear

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factory on investment and jobs? For example in Sunderland? This is a one

:26:54.:26:57.

reading time. They will be `t risk reading time. They will be `t risk

:26:58.:26:58.

even if a big investor like Nissan even if a big investor like Nissan

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be taken up by other firms picking be taken up by other firms picking

:27:04.:27:08.

up the pieces of the industry. Since leaving office, former Chancellor

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George Osborne has set up the Institute for the northern

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powerhouse and has defended his legacy. The northern powerhouse

:27:16.:27:20.

isn't just a slogan. And it's not just saying everything in North is

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great. Some Northerners havd failed to look is you as the champhon of

:27:26.:27:29.

the North when you saw the cuts Can you really be a chaplain of the

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North after being in charge of the austerity budget? When I became

:27:33.:27:36.

Chancellor, people were being laid off, unemployed was rising,

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investment was coming to thd north of England. The big goal here is to

:27:40.:27:42.

try to turn around something which has our country for 100 years which

:27:43.:27:47.

is the North-South divide and it can't be done overnight. Now post

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Brexit, we have already heard from Siemens and Nissan that thex are

:27:51.:27:53.

north on hold and they know what is north on hold and they know what is

:27:54.:27:57.

happening. This is a reliant on investment, isn't it? In thd

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post-Brexit world, it's important that the North sells itself around

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the world and I was with thd leaders of the different cities, we went to

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China and as a result, Chindse investment has started to flow into

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Manchester and Sheffield and Leeds it is an example of how collectively

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the North can punch above its weight. There are still major

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obstacles to realising the vision of a northern powerhouse. Vital

:28:24.:28:26.

overdue and the success of George overdue and the success of George

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Osborne's big ideas will largely come down to one thing, mondy. Will

:28:31.:28:36.

there be enough? That if tonight. And you can catch up with us again

:28:37.:28:40.

in just a few day's time. Wd are back to our regular on Mond`ys. When

:28:41.:28:46.

we will reveal by a north-e`st doctor believes he has found a

:28:47.:28:50.

revolutionary way to combat one form of diabetes. I'll see you ndxt week.

:28:51.:28:56.

Until then, from South Shields, good night.

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Hello, I'm Elaine Dunkley with your 90-second update.

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Silence to remember the Aberfan disaster.

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50 years ago today, a mountain of coal waste engulfed a village,

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144 people were killed - most of them were children.

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A chemical incident at London's City Airport.

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He was a policeman and a scout leader.

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Today, Allan Richards was found guilty of 40 offences,

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including rape and sexual assault against boys as young as eight.

:29:27.:29:29.

He had carried out the attacks over 30 years.

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A chemical incident at London's City Airport.

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Passengers were evacuated and all flights grounded.

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26 people have been treated for breathing problems and two

:29:43.:29:45.

The scene in the English Channel earlier.

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This is a Russian aircraft carrier heading to Syria.

:29:49.:29:52.

The ship was monitored by the Royal Navy

:29:53.:30:00.

Hello, I'm Nisha Joshi with the latest from Look North

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