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Howell, tonight we're in Manchester's northern quarter were | 0:00:00 | 0:00:03 | |
well and introducing a singer who is doing things her own way. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:10 | |
On tonight's programme: it has dominated front pages for months in | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
the region, but can we ever keep races and out of football? | 0:00:14 | 0:00:19 | |
It happens everywhere. It is a reflection of society. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:25 | |
Cases, when she police use them and just how safe are they. I felt a | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
little bit light-headed were now is doing some warm-up work and I | 0:00:28 | 0:00:38 | |
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remember waking up in intensive And why am Manchester singer has | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
turned down a big recording contract to go it alone. We have | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
done everything. We have gone from hand to making the singles, to | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
making the website, to setting up her own label and publishing | 0:00:51 | 0:01:01 | |
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The building behind be in here in Manchester will sooner reopen as | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
the National Football Museum, celebrating all that is great in | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
the game and giving the North West's footballing prowess it's | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
fitting location. But two of the region's more successful teams have | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
recently been at the forefront of controversy over races and in | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
football, something that threatens to turn the beautiful game into | 0:01:31 | 0:01:37 | |
something more ugly. Last October, two of the North | 0:01:37 | 0:01:39 | |
West's biggest football clubs, Liverpool and Manchester United, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
squared up for their annual fixture at Anfield. The game was marred by | 0:01:42 | 0:01:49 | |
a racist incident involving Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra. What | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
happened in that game has sent shock waves around the country and | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
the world. Patrice Evra of United accused Luis Suarez of Liverpool of | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
racially abusing him during the game. Suarez was found guilty by an | 0:02:02 | 0:02:12 | |
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independent FA inquiry and banned for eight games and fined �40K. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
At the weekend, Liverpool again, played Manchester United, in the FA | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
cup, and this case has reignited the racism debate in football and | 0:02:22 | 0:02:26 | |
forces us to ask if the game really has moved on from the ugly scenes | 0:02:26 | 0:02:33 | |
we saw in the 70s and 80s? The get a historical perspective on races | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
and in football, I spoke to Rogan Taylor of the University of | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
Liverpool. I think it is important for people who were perhaps not a | 0:02:42 | 0:02:48 | |
live 25 years ago and for those who have forgotten just how bad it was, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
how commonplace the insults were for black people in particular. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:58 | |
Graffiti on walls, chants at football grounds, John Barnes | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
having an Anna thrown at him while he was taking a corner, which he | 0:03:01 | 0:03:10 | |
back-heeled away. It is hard for people to recall our imagine what | 0:03:10 | 0:03:19 | |
it was like. The National Front was making her first of a series of | 0:03:19 | 0:03:24 | |
controversial matches, most of which ended in clashes with anti- | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
raises some demonstrators. someone who has never been subject | 0:03:27 | 0:03:36 | |
to racial prejudice, hatred or insults, and that is most people in | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
this country, it is all most important -- impossible to know how | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
bad it can be to be insulted on those grounds. To understand how | 0:03:45 | 0:03:55 | |
painful it can be. I think we have to be extraordinarily careful in | 0:03:55 | 0:04:05 | |
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the way that bespeaks to people of further races and other collars. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
Once such player was Liverpool legend, John Barnes. He played for | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
Liverpool in the 80s and 90s. happens everywhere. It is a | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
reflection of society. Just because it is not reported does not mean it | 0:04:20 | 0:04:25 | |
does not exist. The races and that I am interested in his everyday | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
races and, were by people walking on the street, going into shops, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
races and you cannot prove. Silent, unconscious races and that happens | 0:04:35 | 0:04:39 | |
all over. That is the races and we have to get rid of. It is fine to | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
highlight this particular incident and say that as long as we come | 0:04:42 | 0:04:52 | |
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down hard on/s, pat ourselves on the back, it is everywhere. -- | 0:04:54 | 0:05:02 | |
Suarez. Back then, you were told to get on with it and that you had a | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
chip on your shoulder if you complain. Our clubs doing anything | 0:05:07 | 0:05:13 | |
to combat Greece is an? The very fact that Patrick Shearer is at | 0:05:13 | 0:05:23 | |
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Manchester City, or the best players are black, but it today | 0:05:27 | 0:05:35 | |
consider them to be equal? So what responsibilities to the players | 0:05:35 | 0:05:42 | |
have? As an industry, football being our national game, we want to | 0:05:42 | 0:05:52 | |
set the benchmark, beat the leaders in the at is of total inclusion and | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
making sure that every section of society feels that they can be part | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
of our national game and that they are involved in our national game | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
and they are welcome. Is there a case where ignorance -- ignorance | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
can ever be used as an excuse? player comes from a culture were | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
certain language that is used is deemed acceptable, or is | 0:06:12 | 0:06:22 | |
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commonplace, then you can understand the or using of that -- | 0:06:22 | 0:06:28 | |
that they use that, but our levels of using this is not the same, so | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
we need to make sure that players coming from different cultures are | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
aware of the standards and levels of acceptable behaviour and | 0:06:35 | 0:06:45 | |
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language that are in use within our Have you ever had anything said to | 0:06:45 | 0:06:53 | |
you, or have you heard anything? have heard racial abuse, I have | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
heard of other players who have been either racially abused by fans | 0:06:57 | 0:07:02 | |
or by other players. It is very easy to get complacent and we have | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
been diversifying a lot of her attention on to homophobia, Islam | 0:07:06 | 0:07:11 | |
for beer, sexism and all areas of discrimination and I think that a | 0:07:11 | 0:07:21 | |
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lot of people thought that actual races some -- ante raised his arm | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
was resolved. We are broadening hour spectrum into all forms of | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
discrimination because speed feel that none of it should exist within | 0:07:32 | 0:07:39 | |
our society and most definitely not with inner game. -- with in Our | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
Game. Fortunately, there are organisations helping to make this | 0:07:44 | 0:07:54 | |
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happen. These guys and girls are learning without someone saying, do | 0:07:55 | 0:08:02 | |
this or do that. They are mixing with other groups, other | 0:08:02 | 0:08:05 | |
nationalities and because of that, they are learning about each other, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:10 | |
learning how to interact with each other and people from different | 0:08:10 | 0:08:16 | |
communities. That is important. Would you say that races and was on | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
the increase or at that this recent story has put it back on the | 0:08:20 | 0:08:26 | |
agenda? But does not get stuck on one incident or a few incidents, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:32 | |
yes, they are happening, but we have come a long way. Ultimately, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:41 | |
we just want to play football. There is a lack of Asian players in | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
the game and we need to work around that. We need to get these groups | 0:08:47 | 0:08:53 | |
involved in the game so that they can develop and move forward. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
kids grown up, p 8 a black, white, Chinese or Indian, the her growing | 0:08:58 | 0:09:06 | |
up in a common country. On the through education can get through - | 0:09:06 | 0:09:16 | |
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- rid of races and. -- races them. -- racism. Everybody is equal, you | 0:09:20 | 0:09:26 | |
should not treat anybody any different. You have to have the | 0:09:26 | 0:09:36 | |
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right attitude, you cannot make any bad comments. It is not just about | 0:09:37 | 0:09:43 | |
scoring goals, it is about sportsmanship and how good you are | 0:09:43 | 0:09:50 | |
at treating people. When you get face-to-face contact and | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
communication with someone of a different culture or have a | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
different faith, that is when you are really learning about how | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
people think and that is when you come to realise that we are just | 0:10:01 | 0:10:08 | |
human beings, one to another. weekend, least one of his returns | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
after his eight-match ban. In his absence, races and has dominated | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
the back pages. What is clear is that the system is still a part of | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
British football, but with campaigns like this one, by the | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
time these players reach the Premiership, it will become a thing | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
of the past. Yes, because you do you want to be racist everywhere | 0:10:28 | 0:10:38 | |
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you go. You just need to have like Coming up: forget arenas, will be | 0:10:49 | 0:10:56 | |
uncovered the secret concerts in surprising venues around the region. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
Not your ordinary drink, so it has been an event in itself. -- | 0:11:01 | 0:11:07 | |
performance. Teaser guns have become a crucial | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
part of the Arsenal defence of police forces around the region. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:20 | |
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They are used is on the increase. - - taser guns. A recent case has | 0:11:25 | 0:11:35 | |
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highlighted the controversy over these controversial weapons. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
Walk out the door. Show me your hands. Come to the door, mate. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Taser! Taser! To officers, it's the crime | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
fighting tool of choice. But to the public, tasers are controversial, a | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
police weapon with deadly potential. Hold the Taser X26 and the first | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
thing that strikes you is its tiny dimensions and light weight. It | 0:12:02 | 0:12:10 | |
feels and looks almost like a child's toy. Attach a cartridhe and | 0:12:10 | 0:12:14 | |
this device assumes its true potential. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
In the session, the full force of the shot is put to the test. It is | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
the most powerful weapon in the hands of an on a firearms officer | 0:12:23 | 0:12:33 | |
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Witnesses said that this man bit old punched paramedics has he was | 0:12:41 | 0:12:48 | |
treated. I remember waking up in intensive care. From what I can | 0:12:48 | 0:12:53 | |
remember about the incident, police have come over and taken over and | 0:12:53 | 0:12:57 | |
medical situation. They referred in their report about violence but I | 0:12:57 | 0:13:03 | |
was just having a seizure. He spent two weeks in intensive care with | 0:13:03 | 0:13:08 | |
for kidney failure following the incident although this was thought | 0:13:08 | 0:13:14 | |
to be caused by a fearless and not the police actions. The case was | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission which | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
concluded that the officers acted within the training and did not | 0:13:23 | 0:13:31 | |
breach force policies but it called for a review of the use of the | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
Taser of people you had and medical condition. It has knocked my | 0:13:36 | 0:13:43 | |
confidence. In case I have another seizure and I do not wake up. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:47 | |
Greater Manchester Police said that officers acted within the guidance | 0:13:47 | 0:13:57 | |
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By the police can Taser anyone at any time in life threatening | 0:14:07 | 0:14:17 | |
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scenarios, but some believe that officers are abusing these powers. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Sophie Khan is a solicitor who specialises in human rights. But | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
recently her work has been dominated by claims that the police | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
are misusing Tasers. There are some circumstances where the Taser can | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
be used, but the ones I'm dealing with, they've been inappropriate | 0:14:36 | 0:14:45 | |
uses. Confronted with dangerous situations, officers are expected | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
to make split-second decisions. They is a particular rapport danger | 0:14:51 | 0:14:57 | |
to people with mental conditions, young children, lots of conditions. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
They have to identify when and where to use the Taser and not to | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
do a knee-jerk reaction and just deploy the Taser in any | 0:15:05 | 0:15:10 | |
circumstance, which is what is happening at the moment. In America, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
the Taser has been cited as a country Beattie factor in the | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
deaths of more than 300 people according to Amnesty International. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
So before being allowed out onto the street with a stun guns, every | 0:15:24 | 0:15:34 | |
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officer receives 18 hours of training. With regard to how they | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
breed people, what we have to look at is what is that person doing at | 0:15:43 | 0:15:51 | |
that particular time. On the front line, officers have a variety of | 0:15:51 | 0:15:57 | |
weapons at hand. Occasionally they deployed the Taser alongside CS | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
spray. Our research has shown that when they are used together there | 0:16:02 | 0:16:08 | |
is sometimes a risk. We set up a experiment to see how dangerous it | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
is. The shield has been set up with the same cottage as a standard | 0:16:13 | 0:16:18 | |
police Taser. When it is dowsed with CS spray, this is the result. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:24 | |
In a leaked document we have discovered that last year seven | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
incidents where referred to the Independent Police Complaints | 0:16:27 | 0:16:32 | |
Commission. In each, CS spray and the Taser had been used together. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:38 | |
In three of those cases, members of the public suffered burns. Almost | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
simultaneously, someone sprayed someone and another officer thought | 0:16:43 | 0:16:50 | |
there was a bigger threat and used the Taser. Once the spot takes | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
place, Dolphin burns. It is almost like tipping brandy on a Christmas | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
pudding. The Association of Chief Police Officers says it is aware of | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
the issue and that there is training guidance for officers | 0:17:01 | 0:17:10 | |
about the potential flammability Winnie using the Taser. Eran Bauer | 0:17:10 | 0:17:17 | |
is the head of a company which provides an gives training for the | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
tolls. He has spent the last decade trying to educate about the risks. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
We have done a lot of research looking into a non-flammable spray | 0:17:27 | 0:17:32 | |
that would be safe to use with the Taser. This man led the | 0:17:33 | 0:17:42 | |
introduction of the bomb Fred into the UK -- of the Taser. It is a | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
real risk and it is not acceptable. It is just not right that someone | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
gets burnt as the use of police force. How acceptable is it that | 0:17:51 | 0:17:56 | |
some police forces are still using CS spray? As they introduce Taser | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
more generally, they should be going back and be considering all | 0:17:59 | 0:18:08 | |
the risks. This is a real one, but CS spray plus the Taser=inflammable | 0:18:08 | 0:18:14 | |
material. But despite concerns, they have become vital tackles in | 0:18:14 | 0:18:21 | |
the armoury of the police. Statistically, on 90% of occasions | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
the mere presence of the Taser is enough to make people think about | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
what they are doing or what they are about to do. We clearly | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
appreciate that as a distance control weapon against a very | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
violent people in life-threatening situations, Taser is more | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
preferable than a firearm and has a role to play in policing, but we do | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
not want to see electronic cheque weaponry rolled out to every single | 0:18:47 | 0:18:54 | |
officer. In Britain, the IPCC is currently investigating 133 out of | 0:18:54 | 0:19:03 | |
86 complaints from individuals shot by police with the Taser. They | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
include a taxi driver who died after becoming embroiled in a | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
physical confrontation with police. Although the Taser was found not to | 0:19:10 | 0:19:20 | |
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be the cause of death, the IPCC are Most musicians signed to a major | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
record label in the Twenties would think they had made it. But Kirsty | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
Almeida is not most musicians. She left her record company to ensure | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
she had total control over her own work, including designing her own | 0:19:37 | 0:19:47 | |
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album covers. Andy Johnson has been to meet her. | 0:19:54 | 0:20:04 | |
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Number signed I used to be a fault. A year ago, Kirsty Almeida had | 0:20:15 | 0:20:20 | |
signed a major recording deal and was about to release her depute | 0:20:20 | 0:20:30 | |
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single and album. But Kirsty made one of those life-changing | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
decisions, packed her bags, walked away and said goodbye to the circus | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
of the corporate music industry. Now she has transformed her of | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
world. She runs her own record label and deeper makes the | 0:20:48 | 0:20:54 | |
individual record sleeves. She uses social networks size to sell her | 0:20:54 | 0:21:04 | |
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records and artwork around the world. I want to make a life and a | 0:21:04 | 0:21:10 | |
living out of music and being creative. I think that is the | 0:21:10 | 0:21:15 | |
sustainability that I can achieve. Iping that is possible for anyone. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:21 | |
I don't think that in this current climate that Unita had a major | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
label. I think the days of have been beset so circle of people that | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
are in control of it, I think they themselves know that those days are | 0:21:30 | 0:21:40 | |
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gone. Kirsty sees herself at the forefront of a new revolution | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
sweeping through the music industry that is light years away from the | 0:21:46 | 0:21:54 | |
world of the X factor. Had come from what I think is a new wave of | 0:21:54 | 0:21:59 | |
artists who need to be able to be part of everything that is going on | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
and help within the crater decisions within the business area | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
as well. I think you can be a creative business person. Part of | 0:22:09 | 0:22:14 | |
the new way of working is inviting fans on Facebook to small intimate | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
kicks. Tonight's performance is in a converted ballroom in north | 0:22:19 | 0:22:24 | |
Manchester. Some funds have troubled a long way. I have come | 0:22:24 | 0:22:29 | |
from Canterbury. I have been following her on Facebook for the | 0:22:29 | 0:22:38 | |
past year. I first discovered her on BBC Radio six, I heard this song | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
Spider and had been following her since then. I like to create | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
experiences for people, especially because the internet is so | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
saturated with music and opportunities, and everybody can | 0:22:50 | 0:22:55 | |
have anything that they want, so you cannot always have my kind of | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
events. I like to treat expenses that are definitely filled with | 0:22:59 | 0:23:06 | |
magic. I like to take people out of their comfort zone and get people | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
to dress up and turn up with passwords and create an event that | 0:23:10 | 0:23:15 | |
takes them out of their own world. Then they get put back in the | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
carriage and sent off again. For one night any, they were filled | 0:23:18 | 0:23:24 | |
with magic. To give up the security that and major record deal would | 0:23:24 | 0:23:29 | |
offer might seem like Korea suicide but Kirsty now has complete control | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
over her music. By using the internet and social networking she | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
also gets immediate feedback on her songs a project. You have a direct | 0:23:39 | 0:23:48 | |
contact with your audience. When I have been really busy, and a photo | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
shoot has come back and I have a choice of 10 photographs, and I | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
cannot work out which want to use, I will put them up on Facebook and | 0:23:56 | 0:24:02 | |
ask which one. The answers come back within five minutes. I can ask | 0:24:02 | 0:24:12 | |
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questions of my audience. Kirsty was born in Gibraltar and moved to | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
Manchester 13 years ago. She works with her band, The Troubadours, and | 0:24:31 | 0:24:41 | |
they had just reduced a new album, Winter Songs. She has released a | 0:24:41 | 0:24:51 | |
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new film starring one of the actors from Downton Abbey. It was amazing, | 0:24:57 | 0:25:03 | |
especially to see my songs on film. I'm sure that must be anyone's | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
dream, but he was dead than the one of mine. It is really exciting and | 0:25:08 | 0:25:18 | |
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to see it huge in the cinema was mind-blowing. For Kirsty, small is | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
now a beautiful and attention to detail is everything, including | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
working overtime on the sewing machine. It is a lot of work, why | 0:25:31 | 0:25:37 | |
do it? I love it. It is a lot of work if you think of it as work but | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
I anything can that the actual one that I am making so I never think | 0:25:41 | 0:25:51 | |
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that I'm making 200, a just think I am making one. When we do the ones | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
that go to press, I need help, because it is a grand scale. But | 0:25:59 | 0:26:09 | |
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each limited edition is a piece of art. The audience for tonight's | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
performance had no idea what or where the concert would be. They | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
were asked to wear Victorian costume and were met at a | 0:26:25 | 0:26:31 | |
Manchester bar and then escorted to the ballroom. In use have become | 0:26:31 | 0:26:41 | |
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there is a regime to them. We play at this time, you get out by this | 0:26:41 | 0:26:47 | |
time, the audience come in this way and be that way. I like the | 0:26:47 | 0:26:56 | |
experience more, it is about the magical event. It is not your | 0:26:56 | 0:27:01 | |
ordinary kick, so it has been an event in itself. We did not know | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
where we were going, for example! Would you run it for you if he did | 0:27:06 | 0:27:13 | |
become absolute be huge? How do I know? If it when be, I do not think | 0:27:13 | 0:27:20 | |
I would to ring us. I would try to turn beautiful derelict buildings | 0:27:20 | 0:27:25 | |
into venues. But it does not have to be the end Rina way, you can | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
still entertain a lot of people and do great things by using your | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
imagination. Somebody pointed out today there one of the reasons we | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
should be proud of what we are doing it that we have done | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
everything. We have come from hand making the singles to making our | 0:27:41 | 0:27:47 | |
own website and setting up her own label and publishing company. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
you protect your way of working can become a blueprint for others? | 0:27:51 | 0:27:56 | |
Definitely. I think it is could be the modern way. But I think the | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
biggest blue print is start something, come up with the | 0:27:59 | 0:28:09 | |
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creative idea, started and finished yet. -- start it and finished it. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:24 | |
That is all from me for this week. I am back next Monday night at | 0:28:24 | 0:28:33 |