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This week we are in Ulverston. We will be discovering the role this | :00:07. | :00:13. | |
time played in the foundation of a religious movement 400 years ago. | :00:13. | :00:20. | |
Tonight, with tattoos becoming more popular, we investigate the dangers | :00:20. | :00:27. | |
of cheap, unlicensed tattooists. They could have any ingredients, | :00:27. | :00:35. | |
from Wed to sulphur. After disabled factories are closed down, we fall | :00:35. | :00:41. | |
of three former workers as they attempt to find new jobs. This is | :00:41. | :00:45. | |
going to get harder and harder, especially with the climate as it | :00:45. | :00:50. | |
is. Able-bodied people are struggling. And we discover the | :00:51. | :00:56. | |
amazing legacy of the Quaker movement, founded in Cumbria. | :00:56. | :01:06. | |
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Dean was a Quaker, Barclays Bank The last two years has seen a | :01:20. | :01:26. | |
worrying increase in the cases of people getting a licence tattoos -- | :01:26. | :01:34. | |
unlicensed. We have been investigating the health risk posed | :01:34. | :01:40. | |
by this. I'm at the Museum of Tattoos in Southport, home to over | :01:40. | :01:46. | |
5000 exhibits of tattoos. In Victorian times, tattoos were seen | :01:46. | :01:49. | |
as a curiosity, the preserve of the strange and a mark of someone | :01:49. | :01:59. | |
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Today, tattoos are mainstream, seen here at the Tattoo Exhibition in | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
Manchester. Popularised by celebrities like David Beckham and | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
Angelina Joile, around one-fifth of people in the UK are thought to now | :02:10. | :02:16. | |
sport a tattoo. Even the Prime Minister's wife has a dolphin on | :02:16. | :02:23. | |
her ankle! And the rise in demand for body art has led to some people | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
getting tattoos from unlicensed tattooists, known as "scratchers", | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
using cheap kits bought from the internet. We've been investigating | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
how they've been causing pain, spreading the risk of disease and | :02:33. | :02:43. | |
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causing permanent damage to people across the region. I've always | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
wanted a tattoo but it was a case of I'm not old enough yet, but I'm | :02:51. | :02:55. | |
a teenager and I'm going to do it no matter what. In the UK, the | :02:55. | :02:58. | |
legal age for getting a tattoo is 18, but many of Charlotte Makin's | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
tattoos were done by scratchers when she was only 17. She told me | :03:01. | :03:05. | |
just how easy that was. If you know people or even if you want to try | :03:05. | :03:09. | |
it for yourself, go on eBay, if you've got �30 you can get yourself | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
a tattoo kit. You can get your tattoo machine, your ink and do it | :03:12. | :03:22. | |
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to yourself. It's worrying how easy it is. You have a mixture of | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
tattoos, what problems have you had? They proper hurt when they're | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
doing it, and you know that they're going in too deep. You get really | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
bad scarring and even now, three years on, I've got ones that still | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
hurt and the ink just bleeds out and doesn't look like what you got | :03:41. | :03:45. | |
done. It's scarily easy. I was sat in his bedroom on his bed, sticker | :03:45. | :03:51. | |
on, he does it, done, bit of Vaseline and that's pretty much it. | :03:51. | :04:01. | |
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It's nothing like when you go to a tattoo studio at all. Did you worry | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
about infections? I thought about it but because I saw him open the | :04:10. | :04:14. | |
needle I thought it was all clean. That's the last thing on your mind. | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
It's just, "I'm getting a tattoo and it's going to be awesome." You | :04:17. | :04:20. | |
can get terrible things from tattoos. One of the people on the | :04:20. | :04:23. | |
frontline trying to combat scratchers is Helen Williams, an | :04:23. | :04:25. | |
environmental health officer in St Helens. She tells me why it's | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
imperative that if you are going to get a tattoo you use a registered | :04:29. | :04:32. | |
parlour. A studio complies with bylaws, it also has standards for | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
cleaning. It understands that wash- hand basins are required. All the | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
floors, walls, ceilings, everything can be cleaned, but if you're going | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
in someone's bedroom, there could be smoking or carpets. Anything | :04:40. | :04:50. | |
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that can't be cleaned. How big a problem is this? They're a big | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
problem in St Helens. They don't have the same standards of | :05:01. | :05:03. | |
tattooists. We're getting more and more reports of them operating from | :05:03. | :05:06. | |
registered premises. It seems to be because of cheaper kits they can | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
buy from auction sites, they're easier to get hold of now but | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
they're undercutting our registered studios and the health and hygiene | :05:12. | :05:22. | |
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standards aren't at the same standard. We looked online to see | :05:26. | :05:29. | |
how easy it would be to buy tattooing equipment and it turns | :05:29. | :05:36. | |
out it's simple. It arrived, no questions asked. We showed our | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
legally-purchased kit to Sween, a registered tattoo artist to find | :05:39. | :05:48. | |
out just how safe it is. It does look quite professional, really. | :05:48. | :05:56. | |
Everything you would need to do a tattoo of sorts is there. These | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
needles, they could have anything in them, they could have lead | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
solder being used, which is harmful to the body. These inks don't have | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
any EC regulation on them so basically they could have any | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
ingredients in there, from lead to arsenic, sulphur. You name it. In | :06:08. | :06:16. | |
the ingredients listing it has "stuff". Stuff?! So it doesn't | :06:16. | :06:23. | |
specifically say what that stuff is, it just says "Stuff, Japan". | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
wouldn't put them anywhere near my body to be honest. The machines | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
look the part but they haven't been built by a tattoo artist or anyone | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
who knows how to create a tattoo, so these could be hard-hitting or | :06:35. | :06:45. | |
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create damage to the skin instead of puncturing the skin. What I can | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
say is it takes many years of practice and mentorship to be able | :06:49. | :06:54. | |
to create a tattoo where you're not actually putting people at harm. | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
Charlotte has arrived at Sween's studio to get one of her home-made | :06:57. | :07:07. | |
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tattoos reworked by the professionals. I'm trying to smooth | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
out where it was a bit jagged and just basically trying to make the | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
best of a bad job. Are you seeing a lot of this kind of tattoo work | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
where you're seeing people whose mates have done it? Yeah, more than | :07:18. | :07:28. | |
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I'd like, to be honest. I do a lot of reworks and cover ups. In severe | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
cases, you can contract hepatitis, which is the most severe, or HIV, | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
it's blood-borne diseases, we are essentially messing around with a | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
hazardous material, really, blood - and if you don't know how to | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
control that, you are opening people up to diseases and | :07:40. | :07:49. | |
infections. Do you think the regulations are strict enough? | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
There will never be a regulatory body in tattooing as such, it's an | :07:52. | :07:56. | |
artform and art is subjective so it's hard to bring in set standards | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
into this industry, but local authories need to take charge when | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
they hear about people being tattooed illegally from home, and | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
there needs to be some sort of legislation that stops the sale of | :08:04. | :08:14. | |
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professional equipment to non- professionals. You wouldn't sell | :08:15. | :08:18. | |
surgical equipment to people who weren't surgeons so in the same way, | :08:18. | :08:20. | |
you shouldn't really be providing people who don't tattoo people | :08:20. | :08:28. | |
professionally with tattoo If you do find yourself with a | :08:28. | :08:31. | |
dodgy tattoo you may end up speaking to a dermatologist like Dr | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
Caroline Owen. She conducted a survey to find out how tattoos | :08:34. | :08:44. | |
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impacted people's lives. People feel stigmatised by attack to they | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
do not like any more, it can affect their relationships. They feel it | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
can affect job prospects. It can really have an impact on people's | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
psychological well-being. We got responses from about 600 patients | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
with tattoos and the main findings were that while the majority of | :08:59. | :09:01. | |
people remain happy with their tattoos, a significant minority - | :09:01. | :09:05. | |
so, just over a third of patients - did actually regret ever having the | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
tattoos done. 14% of the patients we'd surveyed had had an amateur | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
tattoo rather than a professional tattoo. And they were significantly | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
more likely to regret it. I think more than 50% of those who had an | :09:14. | :09:17. | |
amateur tattoo did end up regretting it. If you are unhappy | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
with your tattoo you may think about laser removal, but that is | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
not always the simple option. it's extremely difficult to get rid | :09:23. | :09:26. | |
of a tattoo. You can fade the tattoo, but you often get left with | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
a ghost outline so it's very difficult to get total complete | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
removal. Laser tattoo removal can be done, but it's not available on | :09:32. | :09:35. | |
the NHS. You often have to have treatment over several months so | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
you maybe would need to have several treatments over 18 months | :09:38. | :09:45. | |
to two years and, obviously, that costs hundreds of pounds. You want | :09:45. | :09:50. | |
to have a look at it? I'm so happy. I've been walking around with it in | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
a bit of a mess for three years and now I've got it sorted and | :09:54. | :09:58. | |
beautiful. Charlotte's pleased with her new professional tattoo and now | :09:58. | :10:03. | |
wants others to think before they ink. Just don't do it, hang on, | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
wait till you're 18 and you've got your money. Make sure you know what | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
you want and go to a proper place. Don't be that guy that does, "I | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
went to my friend and I've got this!" Just don't be that guy, be | :10:13. | :10:23. | |
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Coming up, how the Quaker movement is still going strong today. We are | :10:37. | :10:45. | |
perhaps unique in fighting and winning. Losing your job is bad | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
enough for anybody, but after hundreds of disabled workers lost | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
their jobs when their factories close down, many feared they would | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
never work again. Over the last four months, Inside Out has been | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
falling workers as they face an uncertain future. They were amongst | :11:03. | :11:05. | |
thousands protesting at a demonstration in London this | :11:06. | :11:15. | |
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The message from sacked workers to the government was loud and clear. | :11:20. | :11:24. | |
13 of the 27 factories to close around the North of England, | :11:24. | :11:30. | |
including Wigan, Durham and Leeds. Over the last four months, Inside | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
Out has been following the lives of three of them as they face up to | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
the closure. This is their story. have no idea what I'm going to do | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
when I leave here. It makes me feel very upset at how they are treating | :11:44. | :11:52. | |
disabled people. I feel that we are being used as scapegoats. I have | :11:52. | :11:58. | |
never been on benefits and it is quite daunting to think at my age | :11:58. | :12:08. | |
that I am going to be unemployed. The factories teach new jobs. Men | :12:08. | :12:15. | |
who would otherwise be forced to remain idle. The first factory was | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
opened in 1945 to provide work for up unemployed servicemen who were | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
injured in the war. At the start of 2012, they employed more than 2000 | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
disabled people. They make a variety of product that the 54 | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
factories, ranging from protective clothing from the emergency | :12:33. | :12:38. | |
services to car components. The government says the factories are | :12:38. | :12:43. | |
not cost-effective. Last year, they made a combined loss of �68 million, | :12:43. | :12:49. | |
and in March, they announced plans to close half of them. It is July, | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
and after months of uncertainty the workers at Wigan Remploy have | :12:53. | :12:57. | |
received confirmation that they're factory is one of those to shut. | :12:57. | :13:02. | |
Stephen Rigby is a team leader and has worked for Remploy for 30 years. | :13:02. | :13:11. | |
The reaction was one of shock. We knew that a lot of them would close, | :13:11. | :13:17. | |
but we were in shock when the news came. Quite a few got really upset, | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
obviously. A lot of people have worked there for many years, some | :13:21. | :13:31. | |
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for 30 years, 20 years. There were In County Durham Chris and Clare | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
have found out their fact I have also on the list of those to close. | :13:40. | :13:45. | |
Chris, who's deaf and partially sighted, is one of 41 people being | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
made redundant. TRANSLATION: My boss gave me a | :13:50. | :13:53. | |
paiper to read all about the redundancy and about the money and | :13:53. | :13:58. | |
the reasons why we were being made redundant. That was all. It's a | :13:58. | :14:02. | |
double blow for Clare and Chris. They met while working at Remploy | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
and this year celebrated their 25th wedding anniversary. Clare was | :14:06. | :14:12. | |
forced to stop work because of ill health in 2007. She hasn't worked | :14:12. | :14:22. | |
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since. Just couldn't believe that after all the hard work we, as a | :14:23. | :14:33. | |
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community, had made Remploy what it had become. One of the biggest | :14:33. | :14:38. | |
factories to close is at Leeds. 60 workers will lose their jobs when | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
it shuts its doors for the last time in three weeks. Office | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
equipment has already been removed in preparation for the closure. | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
David Charles is one of those being made redundant. His father was | :14:50. | :14:54. | |
Leeds United legend John Charles. David suffered a stroke sen years | :14:54. | :14:59. | |
ago and feared he would never work again -- ten. I thought to myself, | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
I've gotd to do something to get myself motivated again. With the | :15:03. | :15:10. | |
ill Iness and the time I had to recover from my illness., I've | :15:10. | :15:14. | |
still got the illness, it will be there for the rest of my life. But | :15:14. | :15:20. | |
I couldn't bear not to do nothing. The workforce in Leeds makes | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
packaging and labelling for a food distribution company. They say | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
they're busier than ever and can't understand the decision to close | :15:26. | :15:32. | |
the site. Wer inundated with work here for the people to do. We have | :15:32. | :15:39. | |
a lot of work we've had to turn away. It's all been done too fast. | :15:39. | :15:44. | |
Clare and Chris have a meeting with union represent Kenny. He has bad | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
news for them. The closure of the factory is in just two weeks' time. | :15:49. | :15:52. | |
Some people like myself, near retirement age, we have to face the | :15:52. | :15:56. | |
fact that we won't do anything constructive with our lives, | :15:56. | :16:01. | |
basically retiring early. Those people who are younger will have to | :16:01. | :16:08. | |
look for work, you know, and the bottom line is once people are out | :16:08. | :16:12. | |
of these factories and a year's gone by, nobody's going to care for | :16:12. | :16:22. | |
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them. They will wash their hands of It's Stephen's last week at Remploy. | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
And he and wife Michelle try to put the factory closure to the back of | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
their minds, watching their son play for the local wheelchair rugby | :16:34. | :16:44. | |
team. Yes boys! Do you feel proud to | :16:44. | :16:54. | |
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watch him play? Yeah, yeah, I can't tell you how proud I am of him. | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
It's been a very emotional week. The factories are gearing up to | :16:58. | :17:04. | |
close down, you know, a lot of the machinery is being stacked up and | :17:04. | :17:09. | |
ready for transporting. A lot of the work's dais peered. So | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
basically we just are saying goodbyes and getting ready for | :17:12. | :17:20. | |
Thursday when we actually leave the factory. It's the final day at | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
Wigan, after 60 years the factory is shutting. It's an emotional | :17:24. | :17:31. | |
moment for all the staff. It means a lot, struggling on me own with | :17:31. | :17:38. | |
two kids. It's not fair. I've made lots of friends and the way they've | :17:38. | :17:44. | |
treated us is a disgrace. It's really upsetting. Really emotional, | :17:44. | :17:53. | |
you know, it's just a really sad day. End of an era. I can't explain | :17:53. | :17:57. | |
the emotions that have been going on all morning, you know, we've | :17:57. | :18:02. | |
been trying to keep our chins up. But nothing would ever prepare you | :18:02. | :18:08. | |
for what's happened today. It's like a bereavement in the family. | :18:08. | :18:12. | |
And it's a similar scene at Durham where Chris and 40 other workers | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
have just completed their last shift. The Government insists | :18:16. | :18:20. | |
keeping the factories open isn't a viable option and resources will be | :18:20. | :18:24. | |
better spent helping disabled people find jobs with mainstream | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
employers. At the moment there are 6.9 million disabled people of | :18:28. | :18:35. | |
working age and Remploy factories that only accounts for 2200. Yet a | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
fifth of the 320 million budget is going there to those. We're saying, | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
how do we best spend that money to help all of those people? The | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
employment services part of Remploy had found to 2010 in the last year, | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
35,000 people jobs. What we're saying is it is possible. We can | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
help people into mainstream work and a lot of those disability | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
organisations, a lot of disabled people said actually we would like | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
to work in mainstream employment. But back in Wigan, Stephen's search | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
for work has so far proved fruitless. Even though I have lots | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
of skills behind me from employ, you know, you can't always take | :19:13. | :19:18. | |
those skills into the outside world. I try to keep optimistic. I always | :19:18. | :19:24. | |
think yeah, you know, something will come along eventually. As each | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
time I get a rejection that instils in my mind that this is going to | :19:29. | :19:33. | |
get harder and harder, especially with the climate as it is at the | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
moment and you know, there are able pf bodied people that are | :19:37. | :19:47. | |
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Ulverston is well known as the birthplace of Stan Laurel. But I | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
bet you didn't know that a major religious movement was founded | :19:52. | :19:55. | |
right here as well. Stuart Maconie has been finding out about the | :19:55. | :19:59. | |
birth of the Quaker movement here in Cumbria - and its effects on our | :19:59. | :20:06. | |
everyday lives. It may look like a fairly modest and unassuming house | :20:07. | :20:09. | |
- but this 16th-century building holds a special significance for | :20:09. | :20:19. | |
Quakers - as this is where it all began. It was here at Swarthmoor | :20:19. | :20:22. | |
Hall near Ulverston that Judge Thomas Fell and his wife Margaret | :20:22. | :20:24. | |
received a strange and unconventional visitor, who was to | :20:24. | :20:34. | |
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change their lives, and the lives of thousands of people forever. | :20:36. | :20:38. | |
George Fox was a charismatic firebrand from Leicestershire with | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
strong views about religion. In the mid 1600s he rebelled against the | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
state-run Church of England and travelled the country preaching the | :20:46. | :20:49. | |
then-controversial message that God is within us all and therefore we | :20:49. | :20:56. | |
have no need for priests, organised religion or religious buildings. | :20:56. | :21:00. | |
Having had a divine vision at the top of Pendle Hill in Lancashire, | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
George Fox made his way to Swarthmoor Hall where he would go | :21:03. | :21:10. | |
on to found the Quaker movement with the help of the local people. | :21:10. | :21:14. | |
What he knows about Swarthmoor Hall is it is the home of a judge, | :21:14. | :21:20. | |
Thomas Fell, and his wife Margaret. They are sincere Puritans. Judge | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
Fell is quite a bigwig, he's a lawyer, he's a friend of Cromwell's, | :21:23. | :21:30. | |
a former MP. And he uses this house, Judge Fell, as a sort of open house | :21:30. | :21:36. | |
for travelling Puritan preachers. So it's natural I think that Fox | :21:36. | :21:41. | |
would have made his way here. the Fells taking a great risk in | :21:41. | :21:49. | |
sheltering and protecting Fox? it is threatening from the very | :21:50. | :21:56. | |
beginning. It's threatening because it challenges the status quo. | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
That's socially, religiously, politically. To that extent they | :21:59. | :22:09. | |
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are taking a risk. George Fox travelled extensively. | :22:10. | :22:19. | |
He always returned to Swarthmoor Hall. The quakers still hold | :22:19. | :22:29. | |
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meetings here, held in silence. drop the cares of the world, | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
concentrate on the spirit. If somebody is moved to speak, they | :22:33. | :22:39. | |
can stand and speak. There's no kergey, fixed Liturgy. It's using | :22:39. | :22:49. | |
the silence as a way of worship. The hall is still a focal point. | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
All kinds of activities take place here, like this, 17th century dress | :22:52. | :22:58. | |
making class. This period in history has very little information | :22:58. | :23:03. | |
that we could find when we researched it as the typical | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
garments that people wore, every day people. We found this painting, | :23:06. | :23:11. | |
we have used this as a base. We have used that to create this red | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
jacket. Would that have been for best, it looks like it would have | :23:14. | :23:20. | |
been? I think it would be for every day really. Really? What we've | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
aimed at is to create garments which are for everyday wear, | :23:25. | :23:30. | |
roughly about 1660, ten years after quakerism started. All the plain | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
dress and things like that have come later. Would you fancy wearing | :23:34. | :23:39. | |
that every day? Is it comfortable? Yeah, but I'd probably not wear it | :23:39. | :23:49. | |
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every day. I had no experience this morning until a quaker meeting and | :24:03. | :24:08. | |
far from finding it. It seemed both quiet and reflective | :24:08. | :24:18. | |
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and the most natural thing in the world. Members of the Religious | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
Society of Friends - which is another name for The Quakers - have | :24:25. | :24:28. | |
made quite a name for themselves. The movie star James Dean was a | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
Quaker, Barclays Bank was founded by Quakers, but perhaps the family | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
who have had the biggest impact on us is the Cadbury family - who, in | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
the 1800s, built a chocolate factory on the outskirts of | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
Birmingham in a town they created and named Bournville. The town was | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
named Bournville to give it a continental sounding name as French | :24:43. | :24:47. | |
chocolate was at that time thought to be the best in the world. George | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
Cadbury built the town as a model community for the people of | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
Birmingham, and with its beautiful architecture and spacious gardens | :24:53. | :25:00. | |
it still regularly tops the poll of best place to live in Britain. And | :25:00. | :25:02. | |
did they establish their factory and this community along Quaker | :25:02. | :25:07. | |
lines? The factory was very much run off Quaker lines - although | :25:07. | :25:09. | |
they were astute businessmen, the Quaker principles were very much | :25:09. | :25:12. | |
there - the way they treated their workers, the facilities they | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
provided for them, the pension, the day release for extended education, | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
the sports facilities, that was very much the Quaker influence, and | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
of course the way they treated their customers that was very much | :25:21. | :25:31. | |
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Why did so many Quakers like the Cadburys go into manufacturing? | :25:34. | :25:37. | |
the time Quakers started, they were shunned, in fact, persecuted and | :25:37. | :25:43. | |
imprisoned at times. And the Cadbury family came from the West | :25:43. | :25:50. | |
Country to here because they were welcomed here. You don't have to be | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
a Quaker, or indeed work at Cadbury's to live in Bournville, | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
but the Friends' Meeting House still stands at the centre of the | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
community. Where I meet Anne Giles - a third-generation Quaker who's | :26:01. | :26:05. | |
spent most of her life here. What is it about Quakerism that you find | :26:05. | :26:11. | |
meaningful? I think it's an approach to life that we show our | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
faith through the way we live, that we try and care for people and the | :26:15. | :26:18. | |
environment we live in and we don't see ourselves as superior in any | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
way and we don't wish to do harm to - it all sounds a bit pious - it's | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
a hard thing to live up to, but George Fox, the founder of | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
Quakerism, said "let your lives speak". So we try to treat people | :26:29. | :26:39. | |
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and the world as we would also like I think we're perhaps unique in | :26:50. | :26:52. | |
winning against Tesco, cos the Quaker principles of the village | :26:52. | :26:58. | |
are that there would be no alcohol. At the time when it was built, | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
alcohol was a huge problem and Cadbury wanted his workers to be | :27:01. | :27:11. | |
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The only licenses are to members clubs and there are two of those. | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
So when a Tesco outlet wanted to sell alcohol and the whole | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
community came together - not just the Quakers - to oppose this, they | :27:27. | :27:36. | |
want a nice life. Bournville has attracted families who want a nice | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
life. Do you think the Quaker principles are imbued in the | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
village? I think they must do, cos there was such an outcry and Tesco | :27:42. | :27:50. | |
have tried again and been turned down. There's very strong public | :27:50. | :27:53. | |
feeling about that cos although the village can look very quaint and | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
twee, it's full of normal ordinary people who want the best for their | :27:57. | :28:05. | |
families and want to live a decent life. So from those wild and | :28:05. | :28:07. | |
windswept beginnings at Swarthmoor Hall, on the Furness peninsula and | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
up in the hills of the Pennines, Quakerism has grown and spread to | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
become a world religion and the basis of even global businesses. | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
But at the heart of it, the same quiet and human principles that | :28:18. | :28:28. | |
George Fox formulated 400 years ago. That's all from me this week. Can | :28:28. | :28:34. | |
you watch again on the BBCi player. I'm back next Monday, 7.30pm, BBC | :28:34. | :28:44. | |
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