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Hello and welcome to Inside Out North West | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
Tonight, can the NHS survive diabetes? | :00:00. | :00:08. | |
We are certainly looking at a crisis in diabetes which does | :00:09. | :00:13. | |
We reveal the pioneering diabetes research in Manchester that | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
I cannot tell you how beneficial it is to me, | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
And the families of the north-west soldiers who captured one | :00:22. | :00:28. | |
He just happened to mention, matter-of-factly, "I captured | :00:29. | :00:31. | |
Around 4.5 million people in the UK now have diabetes and the number | :00:32. | :00:47. | |
Most of them have Type 2 which is linked to lifestyle | :00:48. | :00:55. | |
Yet diabetic care is already costing the NHS ?10 billion a year ? nearly | :00:56. | :01:01. | |
New figures seen by the BBC show those costs are likely to spiral | :01:02. | :01:10. | |
BBC Health Correspondent Dominic Hughes reports. | :01:11. | :01:26. | |
Today I'd like to invite you to a shoe-shop with a difference. | :01:27. | :01:35. | |
So what we've got here are 140 shoes and they represent 140 amputations | :01:36. | :01:39. | |
that take place in England every week due to diabetes. | :01:40. | :01:47. | |
We set up this shoe shop to show just how serious Type 2 | :01:48. | :02:04. | |
Where you come from and your family history can increase your risk. | :02:05. | :02:14. | |
But doctors say most of it is down to obesity. | :02:15. | :02:18. | |
Now new data given exclusively to the BBC by Public Health England | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
estimates there'll be an extra quarter of a million people | :02:23. | :02:25. | |
with Type 2 diabetes by 2035 if we continue to get fatter. | :02:26. | :02:31. | |
Diabetics are at greater risk of kidney failure, | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
The NHS is spending ?10 billion a year on diabetic care. | :02:37. | :02:44. | |
As things stand we are certainly looking at a crisis in diabetes | :02:45. | :02:51. | |
which threatens to bankrupt the NHS if we continue | :02:52. | :02:53. | |
One of our shoes belongs to Steven Woodman. | :02:54. | :03:04. | |
Like 90 percent of diabetics, Steven has the Type 2 version | :03:05. | :03:06. | |
which is linked to lifestyle and so largely preventable. | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
But diagnosed as a young man ? he ignored his GP's advice. | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
I never took it that seriously so I carried on eating, | :03:14. | :03:21. | |
going to pub, doing things people of my age did. | :03:22. | :03:28. | |
Like many diabetics Steven developed an ulcer on his toe. | :03:29. | :03:39. | |
The ulcer wouldn't heal and in the end he had | :03:40. | :03:45. | |
My surgeon did say to me when he was taking my third toe off, | :03:46. | :03:55. | |
it's only a matter of time before you lose that one, | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
it's inevitable that will go the same way. | :03:59. | :04:02. | |
Patients with Type 2 diabetes aren't just losing their toes. | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
Some have had to have a foot amputated or even a lower leg. | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
It's life changing and very expensive. | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
It's approximately ?20,000 for the first six months | :04:16. | :04:17. | |
There's the limb fitting and even a basic prosthesis costs | :04:18. | :04:26. | |
All of those aspects mean it's very expensive process for the state. | :04:27. | :04:38. | |
Nick Hex is the health economist who worked out the current | :04:39. | :04:41. | |
cost of diabetes care - that ?10 billion figure. | :04:42. | :04:45. | |
Most of that is spent on complications. | :04:46. | :04:50. | |
Foot ulcers and amputations cost nearly a billion pounds a year. | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
Then there's sight loss and nerve damage. | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
But the biggest cost of all is for heart | :05:02. | :05:03. | |
With both obesity and Type 2 diabetes affecting more and more | :05:04. | :05:10. | |
of us ? costs for diabetic care are expected to increase | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
There is a fixed amount of money for the NHS so clearly if one | :05:13. | :05:29. | |
disease area like diabetes is taking up a more | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
considerable amount of that | :05:33. | :05:33. | |
cost then less money to spend on cancer. | :05:34. | :05:35. | |
Losing three toes means he has to have specially made shoes. | :05:36. | :05:39. | |
Just out of interest how much do they cost? | :05:40. | :05:47. | |
A new problem is expected to put even more financial | :05:48. | :06:00. | |
16-year-old Aisha is one of a small but growing number of children | :06:01. | :06:08. | |
I developed T2D by having a sweet tooth mostly. | :06:09. | :06:17. | |
I used to try out every new sweet in the store and I used to drink | :06:18. | :06:21. | |
When I was taken to the hospital, it hit me then because I started | :06:22. | :06:28. | |
Aisha now has to rely on medicine to control her condition. | :06:29. | :06:40. | |
But she's managed to lose a stone in weight and those fizzy drinks | :06:41. | :06:44. | |
But you can only have health once and you can't buy your health. | :06:45. | :06:56. | |
You have to keep changing your diet plan, to keep fit and healthy. | :06:57. | :07:03. | |
New research shows the number of children like Aisha with Type 2 | :07:04. | :07:06. | |
diabetes has nearly doubled in the last ten years. | :07:07. | :07:10. | |
And they're likely to develop complications much earlier. | :07:11. | :07:21. | |
People who are getting Type 2 Diabetes when they're | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
15 or 16 are likely to have significant problems | :07:25. | :07:26. | |
36 and that's really much younger than you'd expect. | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
These are things like renal failure and heart attacks and strokes | :07:32. | :07:34. | |
and it's going to have a huge impact for them. | :07:35. | :07:38. | |
Ultimately, tackling the rise in Type 2 diabetes will depend | :07:39. | :07:40. | |
I believe we're facing a crisis and we really need concerted action | :07:41. | :07:49. | |
right across society for us to fund more research, provide best possible | :07:50. | :07:56. | |
care and crucially prevent so many cases of type 2 ? in future. | :07:57. | :08:07. | |
Steven's diabetes has stabilised but it's too late to save his job. | :08:08. | :08:13. | |
The toe amputations have left him unsteady on his feet and he's been | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
told by his employer he's no longer fit for work. | :08:17. | :08:18. | |
Given everything you've been through, Steve, what would your | :08:19. | :08:27. | |
advice be to people being diagnosed now with Type 2 diabetes? | :08:28. | :08:29. | |
It's the biggest regret I've ever made in my entire life. | :08:30. | :08:38. | |
Prescriptions for Type 2 diabetes have risen by a third in England | :08:39. | :08:49. | |
in the last five years according to NHS data. | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
The condition can have devastating consequences for those diagnosed ? | :08:55. | :09:03. | |
I've been to meet a doctor calling for change in Oldham - | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
one of the top ten areas for diabetes prescriptions | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
in the country, and have been finding out about | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
the pioneering new medical research from our region that | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
could save the NHS millions of pounds. | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
I was surprised ? a bit shocked actually when I was diagnosed ? | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
I was close to losing half of my leg on each leg and that was | :09:24. | :09:30. | |
The complications of diabetes are a major economic burden | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
It's reported that three out of five cases of Type 2 diabetes can be | :09:34. | :09:39. | |
prevented or delayed through adopting a healthy lifestyle. | :09:40. | :09:42. | |
Diabetes UK has been running road shows in our region to raise | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
In the North West ? where are we placed country-wide | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
Prevalence here is higher than in England and also the rate | :09:52. | :09:56. | |
of increase here is higher than in England. | :09:57. | :09:58. | |
well placed in terms of Diabetes and I suspect that's essentially | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
In the UK, 11.9 million people are at increased risk of developing | :10:03. | :10:09. | |
Here in Oldham alone there are nearly 13,000 already | :10:10. | :10:13. | |
Left untreated or poorly managed diabetes can cause devastating | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
complications such as amputation, blindness, | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
People are more likely to develop Type 2 diabetes | :10:24. | :10:32. | |
if they are overweight, or have a close relative | :10:33. | :10:34. | |
with the condition, but your ethnicity also | :10:35. | :10:36. | |
But what about the increased incidence in certain | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
If you are South Asian you are at higher risk of diabetes ? | :10:41. | :10:48. | |
you are actually six times more at higher risk compared | :10:49. | :10:50. | |
Dr Chauhan says your genes are just as much a factor as your diet. | :10:51. | :11:00. | |
I give you a simple example - if you get a small Indian milk ball | :11:01. | :11:03. | |
which is called Gulab Jamun, it contains 15g of sugar. | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
Just two of these typical Indian sweets contain more than the NHS | :11:09. | :11:10. | |
Most people will have two or three in one serving | :11:11. | :11:18. | |
either ? so you don't have the contents displayed ? so how | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
If you are born and brought up here as an Asian ? so you will have | :11:23. | :11:31. | |
Asian stuff but you will also have Western fast food as well. | :11:32. | :11:33. | |
That's one of the reasons thought to be why | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
we have seen younger and younger people being diagnosed | :11:37. | :11:38. | |
you are at high risk of having diabetes at the age of 25 and if you | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
Dr Chauhan warns that more education about the sugar content in food | :11:45. | :11:49. | |
is vital ? especially ahead of Diwali festival | :11:50. | :11:50. | |
It's not good enough to give them a leaflet | :11:51. | :11:56. | |
and say there you go, it's | :11:57. | :11:57. | |
in your language, that's not good enough. | :11:58. | :12:00. | |
If you've been brought up that its OK to have a sweet ? | :12:01. | :12:04. | |
you need to deal with those beliefs and the fundamental problems before | :12:05. | :12:06. | |
they can really understand and take that message on. | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
Mohammed is from Blackburn, he was diagnosed with Type 2 | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
I was surprised ? a bit shocked actually when I was diagnosed ? | :12:14. | :12:21. | |
I said, I'm perfectly healthy ? sports minded person, | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
healthy, I eat well, my weight isn't excessive ? I don't | :12:27. | :12:28. | |
eat too many sweets ? I don't eat the sugary drinks ? | :12:29. | :12:31. | |
Yet despite his diagnosis, Mohammed is determined | :12:32. | :12:38. | |
Because you have been diagnosed as a diabetic, | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
it doesn't give you the cause or an excuse not to fast. | :12:44. | :12:50. | |
So as I am able, fit, so I keep fast. | :12:51. | :13:01. | |
The Curry Mile in Manchester is world famous thanks largely | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
to the sheer number of bright neon-lit restaurants | :13:06. | :13:07. | |
Looking around, it's no surprise that curry is one | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
of the most popular dishes in Britain. | :13:12. | :13:14. | |
it be for those diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes? | :13:15. | :13:25. | |
One restaurant on Manchester's Curry Mile has | :13:26. | :13:28. | |
trained its managers to ask about medical conditions | :13:29. | :13:30. | |
like Diabetes as well as food allergies, and offers to make | :13:31. | :13:33. | |
changes to some of its favourite dishes to help people | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
We recommended to most of the customers BBQ and grilled | :13:37. | :13:44. | |
foods ? brown rice, not white rice, and wholemeal whole wheat chapattis | :13:45. | :13:53. | |
and vegetable dahls and white meats like chicken and fish but not | :13:54. | :14:00. | |
They recommend a more traditional, home-style way of cooking. | :14:01. | :14:08. | |
We use less oil and less oily dishes. | :14:09. | :14:11. | |
Our duty is to look after the customer's health. | :14:12. | :14:25. | |
And an important part of the NHS budget is spent on treating foot | :14:26. | :14:28. | |
In Manchester, a group of researchers believe they've come | :14:29. | :14:31. | |
up with a solution to this problem, which could save the NHS millions. | :14:32. | :14:34. | |
Everyone in this study has suffered with foot ulcers in the past. | :14:35. | :14:37. | |
I've got no feeling of pain in my feet so I can't | :14:38. | :14:40. | |
Foot ulcers are a major cause of amputation in diabetic patients | :14:41. | :14:46. | |
if left untreated as the open wound can allow bacteria | :14:47. | :14:48. | |
Dr Neil Reeves and his team are working on a new Biofeedback | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
system which aims to treat the cause of the problem. | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
been possible to measure the foot pressures in a laboratory, | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
but what we are doing here is that we are measuring | :15:03. | :15:04. | |
pressures under the feet very accurately and we are relaying that | :15:05. | :15:07. | |
Research Fellow, Caroline Abbott, explains how they are measuring | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
everyday foot pressure using a custom made insole | :15:14. | :15:16. | |
There are eight distinct pressure sites which detect pressure whilst | :15:17. | :15:24. | |
in the shoe during real time so we get a very extensive picture | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
of foot pressures during the entire day while a patient is moving | :15:29. | :15:30. | |
Can you just tell me a bit about how many alerts you've had this week? | :15:31. | :15:38. | |
Well the alerts I've had are mainly when driving, which you're aware | :15:39. | :15:41. | |
OK Gary we'll just download the monthly data | :15:42. | :15:44. | |
The advantage for me from that is that I'm not getting | :15:45. | :15:54. | |
the ulcers because with myself, some of the ulcers I've had have | :15:55. | :15:58. | |
taken over two years to heal up and while it's open, | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
Caroline is able to get a lot of information from the data | :16:02. | :16:06. | |
We can see the places where he has high pressure in his normal daily | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
activity and we are able to advise him how to change his | :16:13. | :16:15. | |
behaviour to offload that very important high foot pressure. | :16:16. | :16:22. | |
Someone who knows all too well the risk of amputation is Wayne. | :16:23. | :16:27. | |
So the watch would vibrate and beep and tell Wayne that he's | :16:28. | :16:34. | |
And he's got it on his left foot on the top side | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
I don't get any sensation in my feet or very limited sensation | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
whereas somebody else who has good sensation will know that their foot | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
is aching and they have an irritation there. | :16:46. | :16:49. | |
On two occasions I was close to losing part or half | :16:50. | :16:52. | |
I didn't even realise I'd had a problem on my foot at first. | :16:53. | :17:01. | |
His foot ballooned in size and turned bright red. | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
The doctor was very concerned about his condition. | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
She was actually considering bringing the surgeon to talk to me | :17:11. | :17:13. | |
about amputation of my leg if it didn't go down within 24-36 hours. | :17:14. | :17:17. | |
So that's how close it came to being a major problem for me. | :17:18. | :17:28. | |
If we can prevent diabetic foot ulcers from reoccurring in people | :17:29. | :17:30. | |
where they do occur, then we can certainly have a major | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
impact on health but also a major economic impact in terms | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
For Gary and Wayne this study has been life changing. | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
It eases the worry of the inconvenience of ulcers. | :17:41. | :17:45. | |
I can't tell you how beneficial it's been to me ? it's | :17:46. | :17:48. | |
else looking after my feet, I can actually tell them that I've | :17:49. | :17:59. | |
got an issue there and we can look at it from there. | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
So it's given me a little bit of self-esteem back as well. | :18:03. | :18:05. | |
All across our region there are memorials to the men | :18:06. | :18:07. | |
and women who fought and died in the two great wars | :18:08. | :18:10. | |
Of course many of our heroes lived to tell their tales from the most | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
One incredible story involves one of the most infamous Nazis | :18:17. | :18:23. | |
of World War II and four soldiers from the North West. | :18:24. | :18:26. | |
May 1945 ? the war in Europe is over. | :18:27. | :18:39. | |
Germany has surrendered, Hitler has taken his own life along | :18:40. | :18:41. | |
On May 23rd this extraordinary footage is taken. | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
It shows the dead body of the most wanted man in Europe - | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
He's just taken a cyanide pill after being taken prisoner two | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
days earlier by British troops near Hamburg. | :18:59. | :19:01. | |
History doesn't say who caught him but today Inside Out can reveal | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
that his captors were five regular British soldiers ? four of whom came | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
To appreciate the magnitude of the arrest ? made | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
during a routine patrol ? you have to understand how powerful Himmler | :19:16. | :19:18. | |
had become during the Nazis' reign of terror. | :19:19. | :19:28. | |
Heinrich Himmler was probably the second most powerful | :19:29. | :19:30. | |
He was head of the SS which was Hitler's bodyguard. | :19:31. | :19:36. | |
He controlled the Gestapo, he controlled the security division | :19:37. | :19:40. | |
of the Gestapo, controlled all of the security forces of Germany, | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
He also oversaw the concentration camps in Germany, he planned | :19:44. | :19:51. | |
the Holocaust and he also ran the death camps in Poland that | :19:52. | :19:54. | |
killed all those millions of people in the Second World War. | :19:55. | :20:01. | |
This is Chris Mannion who stumbled on the story while researching his | :20:02. | :20:04. | |
Proving it has consumed him for the past three years ? so much | :20:05. | :20:10. | |
so, that he's now a volunteer at the Imperial War Museum North. | :20:11. | :20:19. | |
My grandad's picture was on my grandma's mantelpiece. | :20:20. | :20:21. | |
Sadly he died years before I was born. | :20:22. | :20:23. | |
As a boy, men in uniform and who go to war are heroes. | :20:24. | :20:26. | |
He quickly established that Patrick Mannion was a Lance Sergeant | :20:27. | :20:40. | |
in the 73rd Anti-tank Regiment ? this is the only known footage | :20:41. | :20:43. | |
But it was during a visit to the Royal Artillery museum that | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
Chris got the information that completely floored him. | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
They said you need to read this ? it's a very small file. | :20:54. | :21:01. | |
They said it's about the capture of Heinrich Himmler. | :21:02. | :21:06. | |
I read the arrest report and my jaw hit the floor. | :21:07. | :21:08. | |
It's my grandad's regiment ? the 73rd. | :21:09. | :21:11. | |
That was it ? there was this rumour about my grandad's involvement | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
with a top Nazi ? I had to know everything. | :21:19. | :21:24. | |
Chris was determined to get the full facts behind the arrest of Himmler. | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
He knew there were four other men who went out on patrol | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
with his grandfather that day - he just didn't know who they were. | :21:32. | :21:34. | |
However he DID know that in all probability, | :21:35. | :21:36. | |
The problem was, there are over 100 men on this photograph. | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
There was only one thing to do - track them down, one by one. | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
The first and easiest name to add to the list was that | :21:47. | :21:49. | |
of Lance Sergeant William Morris ? the only man named | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
The others were a little more elusive. | :21:53. | :21:59. | |
I thought, how do I get in touch with these people are any of them | :22:00. | :22:02. | |
Then I had a brainwave ? I contacted all the local papers in the areas ? | :22:03. | :22:10. | |
wrote to them and said these are the men who lived in your area, | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
and they may have something to do with the capture of Heinrich | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
While he was waiting for replies, internet research | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
led him to Mike Fahy from Egerton near Bolton. | :22:21. | :22:23. | |
Mike had grown up listening to his dad's tales of the war. | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
Gunner Michael Fahy from Manchester, told his son one story | :22:28. | :22:30. | |
We'd have chats on Saturday mornings, looking out the window. | :22:31. | :22:38. | |
And he just happened to mention matter of fact, | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
It sort of struck me as a bit of a thunderbolt. | :22:41. | :22:45. | |
He said, "I didn't know who he was at the time." | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
He said, "Three chaps were coming over a bridge and I was out | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
on patrol with Sergeant Mannion and he said "Fahy ? grab 'em!" | :22:53. | :22:58. | |
and one of the other soldiers fired a warning shot in the air. | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
Two of the fellers who were walking slightly in front of the third | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
feller tried to shoot round the side of the building and three | :23:09. | :23:11. | |
of the other patrol men went to get them and this other feller ran | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
inside the building he said it was like a mill or a baker's shop. | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
Anyway I ran in after him and he said he was hid under | :23:21. | :23:23. | |
the counter, so I grabbed hold of him and pulled him out. | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
This footage shows the two men who were arrested with Himmler, | :23:27. | :23:28. | |
who'd altered his appearance and given a false name. | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
All three were carrying forged papers. | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
He said, "when we looked at the papers it seemed a bit funny | :23:36. | :23:38. | |
cos they were brand new and almost too perfect, really". | :23:39. | :23:43. | |
He said that's why they were sent down the line after we apprehended | :23:44. | :23:46. | |
Meanwhile local newspapers were starting to pick up on Chris's | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
plea to find the men from the 73rd Anti-Tank Regiment. | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
I was just reading the Echo online and I thought "this is the same | :23:57. | :24:00. | |
Paul Fletcher and his sister Tricia had also been told about Himmler. | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
But their dad, John Fletcher from Toxteth, had a bit of a reputation. | :24:07. | :24:11. | |
He'd tell us little stories about the war and things that had | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
happened and it came across he said he'd captured Heinrich Himmler | :24:15. | :24:20. | |
but me dad could be a bit of a joker so we all thought he was stretching | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
the truth basically so we took it with a pinch of salt. | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
They got in touch with Chris Mannion who immediately came to meet them. | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
Tricia showed Chris a picture ? we didn't know who this person was ? | :24:34. | :24:37. | |
we thought it might have been someone important and Chris went | :24:38. | :24:40. | |
This is a picture of me dad and he's hugging him in one picture | :24:41. | :24:49. | |
and the next picture Chris's grandad's got hold him. | :24:50. | :24:51. | |
That was what me dad was like ? he was always like that with us, | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
Tom Snee was at home in Runcorn when he spotted Chris's appeal. | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
I thought wow, this is my Uncle, he's looking for my Uncle and I know | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
So I rang him up, and he asked me a few questions like, | :25:05. | :25:09. | |
and said "sounds like your George is the man we're looking for." | :25:10. | :25:12. | |
Tom's uncle, George Snee was from Widnes. | :25:13. | :25:14. | |
He was also a gunner in the 73rd ? and it turns out, a reluctant hero. | :25:15. | :25:20. | |
He didn't tell the story very often, but I was lucky enough to have | :25:21. | :25:23. | |
heard him tell the story, he didn't tell it very often | :25:24. | :25:26. | |
as I say, and we tried to get more out of him | :25:27. | :25:29. | |
Like everyone else, George had no idea he'd helped to catch the most | :25:30. | :25:41. | |
George tells it they were called back to the headquarters | :25:42. | :25:45. | |
And they said, do you know who you ve captured? | :25:46. | :25:48. | |
When he told it he told it with truth you know. | :25:49. | :25:53. | |
After the arrest in Meinstedt, the men had taken Hitzlinger, | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
as he called himself, to their camp at Seedorf. | :25:59. | :26:02. | |
Here was he was interviewed by Sergeant Nicholas Carlston | :26:03. | :26:05. | |
? another local man, from Stretford in Manchester. | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
The next day he was sent up the line to Bremenforde and then | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
on to an internment camp where he admitted his true identity | :26:14. | :26:16. | |
No history book records the names of the five men who picked him up | :26:17. | :26:23. | |
but thanks to Chris Mannion's dogged research, even the experts find it | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
I don't think there's any reason to discount this story. | :26:27. | :26:32. | |
You wouldn't imagine the five people would say | :26:33. | :26:34. | |
they captured somebody so famous, and make it up. | :26:35. | :26:38. | |
So I think the fact there's five of them is pretty good | :26:39. | :26:40. | |
corroboration of this story, this sort of footnote in history. | :26:41. | :26:47. | |
And of course, it's a great thing that they captured him you know | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
he was one of the most horrific people in the third Reich. | :26:51. | :26:57. | |
The descendants of our five heroes had never met ? so we | :26:58. | :26:59. | |
brought them together at the Imperial War Museum North. | :27:00. | :27:04. | |
The museum now has a special display all about the capture of Himmler. | :27:05. | :27:17. | |
It seems strange ? it's making the hairs on the back | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
He told me he captured Himmler and for all of this to come | :27:21. | :27:29. | |
They played football together, they were at war together, | :27:30. | :27:48. | |
slept in same rooms, went drinking together. | :27:49. | :27:50. | |
Yes the bond would have been incredible. | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
It sounds corny but my Grandad can see this 70 years later ? we're | :27:54. | :28:05. | |
having a drink together as they would have done but in more | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
Now that is an incredible story. We're back next Monday. See you | :28:10. | :28:35. | |
then. Next week we investigate the growing | :28:36. | :28:51. | |
number of homeless people in our region. It is really scary. | :28:52. | :29:12. | |
Hello, I'm Riz Lateef with your 90 second update. | :29:13. | :29:15. | |
The first of an estimated 8,000 migrants | :29:16. | :29:17. | |
have left the camp at Calais known as The Jungle. | :29:18. | :29:19. | |
French authorities plan to bulldoze it. | :29:20. | :29:22. | |
Migrants are being resettled around France. | :29:23. | :29:24. | |
But 20 teenagers have arrived at a centre in Devon | :29:25. | :29:26. | |
The Home Office has stopped any more coming for now. | :29:27. | :29:32. | |
Chemotherapy for terminal cancer patients, | :29:33. | :29:36. | |
and casts for children's broken wrists. | :29:37. | :29:40. | |
Just some of 40 treatments doctors said today are unnecessary | :29:41. | :29:43. | |
A Christian-owned bakery which refused to make a cake | :29:44. | :29:48. | |
with a pro-gay marriage slogan has lost a legal fight. | :29:49. | :29:51. | |
Ashers bakers in Belfast was found to have 'unfairly discriminated' | :29:52. | :29:54. |