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Hello and welcome to
Inside Out North West | 0:00:01 | 0:00:03 | |
with me Dianne Oxberry. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
Tonight: Could the emergency
services have acted faster | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
on the night of the Manchester Arena
bomb? | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
I just kept shouting
"We need paramedics! | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
We need paramedics now!" | 0:00:14 | 0:00:16 | |
How life after top level
sport can be traumatic. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:21 | |
When you are part of the team. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
It's absolutely brilliant and that
got pulled away from me and it | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
had a massive impact
on my mental health. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:27 | |
And why Liverpool is the star
of a new Hollywood movie. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:35 | |
Are just want to go back to
Liverpool. Say it again, Peter. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:41 | |
Liverpool. Oh! Wow! | 0:00:41 | 0:00:47 | |
In May a suicide bomber killed 22
people at Manchester Arena. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
Hundreds more were injured. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Inside Out has learned that some
of the most seriously wounded | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
victims had to wait for over an hour
before receiving expert | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
medical treatment. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
Colin Paterson, who was one
of the first reporters on the scene, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
also investigates why firefighters
were held back for nearly two hours. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:17 | |
On May 22nd, Salman Abedi made his
way to the Manchester Arena. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
He waited in the foyer of the Arena
for the Ariana Grande | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
concert to finish. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:29 | |
As fans started streaming out,
Abedi detonated a suicide device. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
There was rubble, dust,
smoke everywhere and then | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
there was just screaming. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
There was rubble, dust,
smoke everywhere and then | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
there was just screaming. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
There was just too much for just
three paramedics to deal with. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:47 | |
That night, emergency services
treated hundreds of people, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
many of whom had suffered
life changing injuries. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
But we have learned that some
of the most seriously wounded had | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
to wait for more than an hour
for expert medical treatment. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
12 months before the bomb,
a training exercise was staged | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
at the Trafford Centre,
on the outskirts of Manchester. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:13 | |
Authorities were pleased
with how it had gone. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
We are delighted. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
The aim of the exercise
was to really stress test | 0:02:17 | 0:02:19 | |
all of the organisations that
would respond to a terror attack. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
But what happened on May 22nd when
a real terror attack took place? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
Abedi triggered his
bomb at 10.31 pm. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:33 | |
I was here in Manchester that night. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
In the immediate aftermath,
I was here for BBC Five Live, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
trying to piece together
what had happened. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:48 | |
Everybody started running as fast as
we could. The building shook. Bodies | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
everywhere. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
How long were you there for? | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
Probably an hour. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:02 | |
So on the night, people
were telling me, that some | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
of the injured were waiting
an hour for treatment. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
Shortly after 11 o'clock,
most walking wounded had been | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
evacuated from the Arena foyer,
here to Victoria Station approach. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:20 | |
Ambulance crews from across England
treated the injured who'd been able | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
to escape the scene. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
But for those in the foyer,
expert help was still very limited. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Before the police cordon
was made secure, only one | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
North West Ambulance service
paramedic made it into the foyer. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:36 | |
Over the next hour, two more
paramedics were able to join him. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
But eye witnesses we've talked
to say that far more help | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
was desperately needed. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Kim and Phil Dick from Bradford
were in the foyer to collect | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
their daughter and granddaughter. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:53 | |
Seconds after the explosion a victim
with serious injuries | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
collapsed in front of Kim. | 0:03:55 | 0:04:00 | |
She could hardly walk,
she was stumbling, bleeding | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
from her arm, and her mouth
and her leg. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
And all her hair was burnt
and I just grabbed her, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
because I thought she was
going to fall. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
How long was this over? | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
It's over an hour,
just over an hour. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
And I just kept saying you've been
really brave but we could hear | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
the ambulances all the time. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:18 | |
As time passed, concern
grew about the lack | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
of paramedics in the foyer. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:27 | |
The armed police came running in,
normal police, armed | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
police and you know,
I just kept shouting | 0:04:30 | 0:04:31 | |
"We need paramedics! | 0:04:31 | 0:04:32 | |
We need paramedics now!" | 0:04:32 | 0:04:33 | |
And they just said,
"We're just making sure | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
there are no more bombs". | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
An hour after the explosion,
the wounded in the foyer | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
were still only receiving basic
first aid, rather than | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
expert paramedic help. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
The longer it went on the more
silent it became and it was, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
it was really eerie and people
who I had seen a little | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
earlier, who were severely
injured, were now dead. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:59 | |
They made a decision at some point,
about an hour and ten minutes | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
after the explosion,
I think, that the medical staff | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
weren't coming up to foyer
but were going to evacuate | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
all the casualties. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:12 | |
The girl they looked
after did survive. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:19 | |
Security fears may explain why only
three paramedics could enter | 0:05:19 | 0:05:26 | |
the so-called "hot zone"
where the bomb had gone off. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
But it's harder to understand
the delay in the arrival | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
of Fire and Rescue staff. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
Commanders on the night held fire
and rescue staff back | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
at their stations until 12.18am. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Fully one hour and 47
minutes after the blast. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:43 | |
The fire service made
a decision to go to a RV point | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
which is what is normal practice
as did the ambulance service. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
The ambulance service were called
forward and at this stage I am | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
unsure as to why the fire service
were delayed so long. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
Greater Manchester Fire
and Rescue Service's has | 0:05:55 | 0:05:56 | |
a Technical Response Unit These
are people trained specifically | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
to deal with terrorist situations. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:03 | |
That Unit took part in the Trafford
Centre exercise last year. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
It's still uncertain
who on the night made the decision | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
not to deploy that unit. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:16 | |
Save the UK Fire Service is the
leading firefighters' online forum. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
On the evening of the bomb,
Greater Manchester firemen | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
vented their frustration
on the pages of the site. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:33 | |
They were frustrated that they were
not being sent to the arena. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
I've been a firefighter
in Manchester for nearly ten years. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
And I've never ever felt so much
guilt in all my life. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
We were only half a mile
away from helping. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
Half a mile away from
potentially saving lives. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
And that will always
stick with me forever. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
A paramedic lady came to us,
pleading with us to help. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
because they needed it. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
This firefighter, who is not based
in Manchester, runs the site. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
If the firemen had been deployed,
how much use could they have been? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Well every fire engine carries
immediate emergency care medical | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
packs and every firefighter
is trained in the use of those. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
We're not a replacement
for the ambulance service, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
but certainly we can relieve
the pressure on an ambulance crew. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
Those trapped in the foyer that
night remain very grateful that | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
so many people were willing
to put their own lives at risk | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
to help save lives of others. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
But almost six months on,
some remain concerned that emergency | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
medical help was so slow to arrive. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
They want to minimise the risk
to as many people as possible, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
I perfectly understand that. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:34 | |
But they deployed tens if not
hundreds of police officers | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
into that foyer and into the arena
and if some of those had been | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
medically trained, then,
you can't say for certain, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
but some people's injuries
could have been dealt | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
with quicker and perhaps,
just perhaps, some lives | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
could have been saved. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:56 | |
You've got this golden hour. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
In that hour they need
to be treated... | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
Immediate care needs to be given. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
That improves peoples'
chances of survival. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
But one man who collected his son
from the Arena, believes | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
the authorities did the absolute
best that they could. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:15 | |
You'd like every single medic every
doctor that was in Manchester should | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
have been there and they would have
liked to have been there. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
And everybody would have been
in there helping everybody | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
and nobody would have died. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:24 | |
But it couldn't happen. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
The mayor of Greater Manchester,
Andy Burnham has now set up | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
an Independent Review under
Lord Kerslake to learn lessons | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
from the events in May. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
It's due to report next year. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
There was a feeling at the time
that the wrong call | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
was made in those moments. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
Now it seems to me that there
is some substance to that | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
and it was one of the reasons why
the independent review was set up. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:52 | |
But it's not about feelings is it? | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
That's the point, isn't it? | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
It's about "what is the evidence?" | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
It's about "what is the evidence?" | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
and that evidence is being
looked at by the review. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
Those in charge of the emergency
services after Abedi's bomb in May | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
faced a horrific dilemma. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
Save lives by deploying
as quickly as possible | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
but while there was still the risk
of a second explosion. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
Or wait until the scene
could be declared safe, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
but accept that this would delay
urgent treatment to the bomb | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
victims as a result. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:24 | |
We contacted all the emergency
services and they gave us | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
these written responses. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
North West Ambulance Service told
us, its staff are fully insured to | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
attend terrorist related incidents. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
Greater Manchester Fire
and Rescue said it has | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
conducted its own debrief
of the organisation's response | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
to the Manchester Arena Attack
and is cooperating fully | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
with the Kerslake Review. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:48 | |
Greater Manchester Police told
us that they contacted | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
the North West Ambulance Service
within three minutes of the incident | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
being declared and they followed
their major incident plan. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:58 | |
None of these organisations
wanted to appear in this | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
film while the Kerslake
review is ongoing. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:11 | |
The life of a professional
sportsman - or woman - | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
can be incredibly glamorous:
the fame, the financial | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
rewards, the adulation. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:19 | |
But what happens to all that
when they've stopped competing? | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
Our reporter is former
athlete Diane Modahl. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
Or, as she was known
when she was winning gold | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
in the Commonwealth
Games, Diane Edwards. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Commentator: Diane
Edwards, in Lane 3... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:36 | |
Those were the days. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
I've always thought
that a sporting career | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
is like running
a long distance race. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:53 | |
Running wide of the Australians.
They come up now. Is it fast enough? | 0:10:53 | 0:11:01 | |
Occasionally there will be barriers
along the way ? there may | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
be falls but there'll
also be fantastic highs. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
The Australians are recovering now.
They are into the wind... | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
So what actually happens
when you reach the finishing line ? | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
sometimes I think that can be
the hardest part of all. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:20 | |
Danny Sculthorpe was
a successful prop forward | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
with Wigan and England ? for him
rugby league was everything ? | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
especially when it was a big game. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:33 | |
The hairs on the back
of your neck are on end. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
The adrenaline that's
going through your body | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
is absolutely unbelievable. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
I can't explain how good it was. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
It was brilliant,
absolutely brilliant. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
But towards the end of his career
Danny had serious injury problems | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
and when his final club,
Bradford Bulls tore up his contract | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
in 2010, he was devastated. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:55 | |
He was just 31. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:56 | |
I lost my job. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:57 | |
I lost my career. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
I lost our family house
and I had two young kids | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
and a wife that I couldn't support. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
And that's when the
depression started. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
I know for a long, long time I did
what most men do when they struggle | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
with mental health issues. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
I kept it to myself -
I thought I will deal with it. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:17 | |
I'm supposed to be this 6 feet 4,
17 and a half stone rugby league | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
prop forward and I can't tell
someone I am struggling | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
with mental health issues. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:24 | |
I found myself in
the middle of Wigan | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
in my car with a bottle of gin
and a box full of pills that | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
would have killed half of the town
and I was going to take my own life | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
- now for some reason I didn't. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:35 | |
I was just lucky that you know
I decided not to do it on that | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
time, that occasion. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
I remember coming home and that's
the day after that when my mum | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
and dad and my wife sat me down
and you know call me out on it | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
and changed my life, saved my life. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
Danny's experience is actually not
that unusual in the world | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
of professional sport,
as neurologist and former footballer | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
Tony Faulkner told me. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
If they haven't developed options
and opportunities to transition | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
into a further a career,
then their brain can | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
go into a threat state
and their thought process can | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
become more negative,
can become more irrational and more | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
impulsive and that can lead
to many issues including | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
clinical depression,
we are aware of certain athletes | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
who have taken their life
because of their loss of identity | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
that retirement brings. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:23 | |
And | 0:13:25 | 0:13:26 | |
As an amateur boxer, Natasha Jonas
won a stack of titles, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
including European Championship Gold
and World Championship Bronze. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:36 | |
She made history at London 2012
when she became the first British | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
woman to box in the Olympics. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
Boxing is just a skill
but you learn so much more. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
And you learn a lot of life
skills being in the gym. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
There was loads
of little milestones. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
Obviously, the Olympics was by far
my greatest boxing achievement. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:58 | |
But then a foot injury led to defeat
in the Commonwealth games, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
and failure to qualify
for the Rio Olympics. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Natasha made the decision to retire. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:09 | |
Can I do it for another four years? | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
And I came to the conclusion
that I couldn't. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
My time was done. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
I don't think I could've
been that athlete again | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
so I thought, now's the time. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
Natasha started to prepare
for life outside the ring. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
She found work with sports
organisations and broadcasters. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
And there was another
compelling reason for Natasha | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
to re-appraise her future plans. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
She was pregnant with
her daughter, Meela. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
I had a whole new world and I kept
myself busy with the baby | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
kept myself busy with new companies,
busy with work. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:49 | |
For the first year of her life
you're trying to get her | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
into a routine just generally
so my mind was off what I needed | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
to do cos it was so focussed on her. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
Despite the perception
that she had it all, the pull | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
of boxing proved too powerful. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
When I left boxing I
realised that that routine | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
was the thing I missed. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:08 | |
The thing that I said I hated, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
I actually missed the most. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
I'd left boxing on a bit of a low. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
I hadn't gone to Rio,
I'd got beaten in the Commonwealth | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
games and I should've won a medal. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
So my drive was that I had
unfinished business with it. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
And once I'd got over
the physical stuff I thought, | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
no, I've still got it. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
And so earlier this year
she turned professional. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:40 | |
Working with Manchester trainer
Joe Gallagher, she's already | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
won her first three fights. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
Ben Burgess is known
to these schoolchildren | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
at Hawes Side Academy in Blackpool
as their favourite teacher. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
If the | 0:15:53 | 0:15:54 | |
But to thousands of football fans
he's remembered as a striker | 0:15:54 | 0:16:00 | |
at nearby Bloomfield Road. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
His 14-year career took him to no
fewer than ten clubs ? | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
including Blackburn,
Oldham and Stockport. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:13 | |
But after years of wear and tear ?
and 21 operations on his knees, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
Ben realised in 2012
that he wouldn't be able to fulfil | 0:16:17 | 0:16:19 | |
a new contract he'd just
signed with Tranmere. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
When your body can't do
what your mind wants it to do it's | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
the most frustrating thing
in the world. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
We just wrote the two years
of my contract off and that was it | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
we just sort of parted. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
And I was pretty emotional
at the time, it was a lot to take | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
in and as I was driving home
from Liverpool I had to stop the car | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
and gather my thoughts. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
The key factor which helped
with Ben's transition | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
into the real world was that -
unlike most athletes - | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
he'd planned ahead. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
I always had in the back
of my mind that I was | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
going to need something. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:56 | |
I managed to get
a journalism degree. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
And was doing a bit of freelancing
while I was still playing. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
As I knew my career was coming
to an end it was "what can I do | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
with my qualifications?" | 0:17:07 | 0:17:08 | |
Someone mentioned if
you've got a degree | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
you can do a PGCE and become
a qualified primary school teacher. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
You could say that Ben's transition
from footballer to school | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
teacher is a lesson for all. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:21 | |
Whilst they are competing,
it's important | 0:17:21 | 0:17:22 | |
for them to have other interests
outside that sport. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
That allows them to switch
off ? it's cathartic. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:31 | |
What it also gives them
is an insight into another world, | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
another interest which can then lead
into their transition when they come | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
to the end of their career. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
Danny Sculthorpe's
in a good place now. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
His failed suicide attempt proved
to be a turning point. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
My family mean everything to me. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:49 | |
Absolutely everything. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I could have done something stupid
that day, and spoilt it - | 0:17:52 | 0:17:54 | |
could have ruined their lives. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
So to see them growing up, healthy,
just means the world to me. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
I absolutely love them to bits. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:10 | |
He's now working with State of Mind
? a mental health charity. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:22 | |
We have spoke to 27,000 people
over the last 6 years. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
28 people have told us that
because of one of our sessions | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
they have changed their mind
about taking their own life | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
which is absolutely unbelievable. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
Family life is at the centre
of Natasha Jonas' world too ? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
and she's a winner once again. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
But she knows the day will come
when retirement beckons once more. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
It is scary ? but I can't
walk away from boxing. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:49 | |
I don't think I'll 100% ever
leave - I'll always have | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
something to do with it. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
Children are at the heart
of Ben Burgess's daily life too. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
Football's in the past ? he's
concentrating on developing | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
the citizens of the future. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:01 | |
I don't want the children
to see that you're either | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
clever or you're not,
or you're talented or you're not. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
They've got to see
how hard you work. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
It's clear that some
athletes handle the move | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
into retirement better than others. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:17 | |
But for me, there is a duty of care
for everybody involved in running | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
sport to ensure that our athletes
can make that transition | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
as easily as possible. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:30 | |
There's a bit of an Oscar buzz
about a new movie called | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool
which is out later this | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
month and stars Annette
Benning and Jamie Bell. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
It tells the remarkable
true story of a man - | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
whose life was turned upside down
when he met and fell | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
in love with a Hollywood
superstar back in the 1970s. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:48 | |
I've been to meet him. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:57 | |
and drink, you can hustle with me, I
need a banana for my dance class. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
If you fix me a drink I will come in
and fix your bathroom. It is a | 0:20:03 | 0:20:11 | |
classic man meets woman love story.
She was a former Hollywood screen | 0:20:11 | 0:20:15 | |
goddess and he was a local Liverpool
lad. Far-fetched? Maybe, but this is | 0:20:15 | 0:20:21 | |
a true story. It begins and the like
1970s. Gloria came to do a play in | 0:20:21 | 0:20:26 | |
London. She came to rent this ground
floor apartment in this house and I | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
was at the top of the house. Where
you are aware of who she was | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
immediately? No. I knew... Gloria
Grahame, I just didn't really know. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:46 | |
I hadn't seen any of her films. What
the young Peter Turner hadn't | 0:20:46 | 0:20:52 | |
realised was that 20 years earlier
Gloria Grahame was at the top of the | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
Hollywood tree. She had starred in
classics like It's A Wonderful Life, | 0:20:56 | 0:21:02 | |
Oklahoma, and played a femme fatale
to Leeds like Humphrey Bogart and | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Lee Marvin. By the time she met
Peter she was on a Saturday night TV | 0:21:05 | 0:21:13 | |
show. She admitted she has been cast
against type in one of her most | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
famous roles.
# I'm just a girl who can't say no, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
I'm in a terrible fix #.
He asked if I could sing, I said no, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:27 | |
he said of course you sing, I said I
don't. He said, you sing in the | 0:21:27 | 0:21:32 | |
shower? I said no, I couldn't carry
a note in a bucket. We just | 0:21:32 | 0:21:37 | |
connected. There was a big age
difference in the relationship. At | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
that time it was controversial. She
didn't play the film star, movie | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
star, Schuster travel around the
bus, the Tube, weight in queues, or | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
things like that. -- she used to
travel around on the bus, the Tube, | 0:21:50 | 0:22:00 | |
wait in queues. The final dramatic
scenes would be played out in | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
Liverpool. Gloria would spend her
last days here, and Peter's family | 0:22:03 | 0:22:09 | |
home near Sefton Park. It all
followed a phone call from the Dukes | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Theatre in Lancaster. That phone
call that came to this house, what | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
did it say to you? What does it say?
It was very brief. I was told she | 0:22:16 | 0:22:26 | |
was very ill. I said how ill? They
said very, and could I come | 0:22:26 | 0:22:36 | |
immediately. She came to Liverpool
when the chips were down. A place | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
where she felt safe. She wanted to
get better. It was futile. I think | 0:22:39 | 0:22:47 | |
that really now she knew she was
going to die. She knew she had left | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
it late. Peter eventually wrote a
moving account of the difficult days | 0:22:51 | 0:22:57 | |
that followed, and the two fabulous
years which preceded them. The book | 0:22:57 | 0:23:02 | |
was published in 1986 and now it has
been turned into a book starring -- | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
film starring Annette Bening and
Jamie Bell as Peter. We expected the | 0:23:06 | 0:23:14 | |
Gloria Grahame from Birkenhead, not
the one from the picture Palace, we | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
never expected that one in our
kitchen making a bacon sandwich | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
asking for tomato sauce.
CHUCKLES | 0:23:22 | 0:23:28 | |
Mattress from Manchester, his many
successes include the film Control, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
about Ian Curtis from Joy Division.
He's very much at home with great | 0:23:33 | 0:23:39 | |
Northern stories. -- Matt is from
Manchester. I immediately felt | 0:23:39 | 0:23:47 | |
warmth toward it. Especially his
family, Bella, Joan, and that | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
Northern set up, kind and loving and
as soon as you have got that you | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
have got more of Peter. I think this
book was him letting a lot of stuff | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
out. Therefore it was easy for me to
get to the truth of what his | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
character was. Once he had seen the
script and read Peter's book, Jamie | 0:24:05 | 0:24:12 | |
Bell was determined to get to know
the real Peter Turner. It is the | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
relationship that has meant the most
him. It has affected him the most. I | 0:24:15 | 0:24:22 | |
would spend many hours with him just
sitting down, probably asking him | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
the pointless questions, but to me
they're meant everything. As he | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
would recount these tales, you can
see is reliving every moment. Has | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
anyone ever told you you look like
Lauren Bacall when you smile? Yes, | 0:24:34 | 0:24:42 | |
Humphrey Bogart, I didn't like it
then, either. This is it. This is | 0:24:42 | 0:24:48 | |
the backstage at the Playhouse,
fantastic, isn't it? When Gloria was | 0:24:48 | 0:24:54 | |
seriously ill at his family home,
Peter was appearing in a play at the | 0:24:54 | 0:24:59 | |
Playhouse. The theatre is the
location of one of the most moving | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
scenes in the film and Peter has a
small cameo. It was so strange, you | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
know? Surreal today on a stage with
Jamie. Being you. Being me. Playing | 0:25:07 | 0:25:18 | |
that part. And with a -- and with
Annette playing Gloria, it was like | 0:25:18 | 0:25:28 | |
a kind of Time Capsule, really.
Where am I? What's going on? Life is | 0:25:28 | 0:25:35 | |
full of surprises. Another star of
the film is Liverpool itself. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:42 | |
Huskisson Street doubles up as a
road in London. And the famous | 0:25:42 | 0:25:47 | |
Philharmonic pub does a turn as a
London bar. The Turner family home | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
has moved to a terrorist | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
-- the Turner family home has moved
to a terraced stomach Street. They | 0:25:57 | 0:26:03 | |
said would I to be able to lend my
home to them? I said yes. They made | 0:26:03 | 0:26:14 | |
it a lot more old-fashioned. They
repainted? They repainted my door. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:20 | |
How did you feel about it? It was
OK, because they put it back again. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:27 | |
Annette Bening films in the bedroom.
And Jamie Bell needed a favour. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:32 | |
There was a scene over the road
where they had rain coming down. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
They had to come and get dried. He
put all of his clothes in the tumble | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
dryer. You've had Annette Bening in
the bedroom and you have had Jamie | 0:26:40 | 0:26:46 | |
Bell's clothes in your tumble dryer?
Yes, it was lovely. We would | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
basically take over streets,
people's houses. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
CHUCKLES
Playing football with the kids in | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
the streets. Just lovely, lovely
people. Very lucky to be able to get | 0:26:57 | 0:27:03 | |
to shoot there. Then there was the
crucial job of being able to do | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
Liverpool accent. It's tricky
accent. It's a melodic, sing song, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
very specific sound, there is a
certain personality that goes with | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
that. It was a bit of a test, yes,
kind of tricky. 31 years after | 0:27:15 | 0:27:25 | |
writing his book, and 36 years after
he'd last seen Gloria, Peter Turner | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
finally got to see the film. He
watched it at a private screening | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
with the producer. At the end of the
screening, Barbara had to be. I said | 0:27:33 | 0:27:39 | |
I just wanted to sit by myself.
Barbara left her seat. She gave me a | 0:27:39 | 0:27:46 | |
big cuddle because I was in bits.
Such a significant part of your | 0:27:46 | 0:27:52 | |
life, isn't it? Yes. It will always
be defining. The whole period, the | 0:27:52 | 0:28:00 | |
whole relationship, you know, kind
of, it has given me so much. To find | 0:28:00 | 0:28:05 | |
who I am. The film is a heartfelt
tribute to Peter Turner's love | 0:28:05 | 0:28:18 | |
affair with a remarkable woman. A
relationship which took a young man | 0:28:18 | 0:28:22 | |
on a journey which changed his life. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:27 | |
And the film is released
on the 17th of November! | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
Inside Out is back in
the New Year ? see you then. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 |