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Britain - whatever happened to Lord Lucan? The instructions were to

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make arrangements for John Bingham, also known as Lord Lucan, to see

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his children. And to do that, I had to to book his two eldest children

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on flights to Africa. We reveal startling new evidence on

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where he fled after the infamous murder in November 1974. I made a

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few enquiries around and it was quite obvious that people were

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aware that Lucan wasn't dead. on the Trail of the infamous

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Hawkhirst Gang, the smuggling Mafia that once ruled the Weald. On one

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occasion, there were supposed to be 500 horses carrying 11 tonnes of

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tea on one run. That is a fantastically big business.

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Natalie Graham with untold stories closer to home, from all around

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Hello. Tonight, we are on the Kent- Sussex border. I will be back here

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later but first, in a special report, we reveal fresh evidence

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which could solve one of the UK's biggest murder mysteries. Glen

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Campbell investigates the notorious Lord Lucan case and interviews two

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new witnesses who claimed the disgraced peer was smuggled out of

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Cold cases don't get any colder than this one, and they don't get

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any more mysterious, either. But when it comes to the passing of

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time, the truth has a habit of Now, this is a brave claim to make,

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but I think I can now tell you what really happened to Lord Lucan when

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he fled this house on the night of I've put Camilla and George to bed.

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Thanks, Sandra. Would you like a John Bingham, also known as Lord

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Lucan, was a desperate man. Separated from his wife, on that

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fateful night, he slipped into the family house here in Belgravia,

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intent on murdering her. But his plan went terribly wrong. He

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bludgeoned to death the family's nanny, 29-year-old Sandra Rivett,

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instead. Realising his mistake, he then launched a ferocious attack on

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Lady Lucan, as the couple's three children slept upstairs. But

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somehow, she managed to escape and pledge down the street to this pub,

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And that is when Lord Lucan, aristocrat, professional gambler

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and member of London's social elite, fled to friends in Uckfield, Sussex.

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And it was Uckfield in Sussex where the trail went cold. Lucan was

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never seen again. Officers from Scotland Yard scoured the

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countryside and coast for weeks. Lucan's borrowed Ford was

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discovered abandoned, with a length of lead piping still in the boot,

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here in Newhaven. The first theory was that the disgraced Lord

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committed suicide, throwing himself into the English Channel. But

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despite an exhaustive search, nobody was ever washed up. -- no

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body ever washed up. The second theory was that John Aspinall,

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casino owner and founder of Howletts zoo in Kent, together with

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Sir James Goldsmith, multimillionaire businessman,

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somehow smuggled Lord Lucan out of the country to evade justice. John

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Aspinall, for one, made no secret of his loyalty towards his old

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gambling friend, Lord Lucan. Here he is in a rare interview with the

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BBC just two years after Lucan had vanished. What I probably would

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have done, if he had appeared here, is anything that he wished.

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actually say, "if he had begged asylum from me, he would have got

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it". Even though, at that time, there were certainly grounds for

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thinking that he had murdered the nanny. At any rate, the police were

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looking for him. He would have got asylum regardless of the

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So, could John Aspinall be behind Lord Lucan's vanishing act? John

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Aspinall and Sir James Goldsmith are now both dead. Neither uttered

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a word in public about the role they played in Lucan's

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disappearance. But behind closed doors, both Aspinall and Goldsmith

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knew far more than they were letting on. And this woman was

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party to some of those secret conversations. She has asked that

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we change her name and conceal her identity, as she recounts the

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inside story as to what really Can you take me back to the casino

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business in the 1970s and 1980s? How did you come to work for John

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Aspinall? I was in my 20s - about 24 or 25 - and I knew nothing of

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him. I literally had come into the casino world by chance, at the Ritz

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Casino, and somebody said, "this man has opened a new casino - go

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for it". His secretary said, "Mr Aspinall would like to see you,"

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and at that point, I got got a little scared. But he was charming.

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A bit flirty with a twinkle in the eye and smile and, you know, a very

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charismatic person. Immediately put me at my ease. It was 1978 when

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Jill began working in John Aspinall's new casino, designed

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specifically for London's gambling aristocracy. The club had been set

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up to find his real passion - an extensive collection of wild

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animals, based at his private zoo, Howlett's in Canterbury, Kent. Lord

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Lucan had been missing for four years by the time Jill entered

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Aspinall's secret world. What sort of world was it? What were the

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clients like, what was your job? was the secretary - admin secretary,

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dealing with all the day-to-day memberships. And did he grow to

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trust you? I think he did get comfortable to trust me, and I was

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not really an enquiring sort of person. I just took things as they

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came. I was quite a loyal employee, I think. That's loyalty was soon

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reciprocated, and John Aspinall started inviting Jill into private

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meetings. Meetings where Lord Lucan was the main topic of conversation.

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Take us back, then, to these meetings that seem to be at the

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very heart of this story. Aspinall always had his desk with his

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favourite chair and if he was having tea, he would always come

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and sit on one of the sofas. Sir James Goldsmith, for some reason,

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whenever I was there, never sat down. He always seemed to be

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standing up with his cup of tea. I think they had been together

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talking for a while before they invited me. Instructions were to

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make arrangements for John Bingham - also known as Lord Lucan - to see

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his children. And to do that, I had to book his two eldest children on

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flights to Africa. I don't know the exact dates. It was between 1979

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and 1981 and it was two occasions that I booked the flights. It may

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be that they went more often but I didn't make those arrangements. We

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had to put that passports for the two older children. --duplicate. I

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did ask why Camilla, the younger one, wasn't going and it was said

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that she was on her mother's passport and they couldn't...

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Anyway, she was too young to travel on her own. So it was just the

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oldest two. They would go to Kenyan, to the treetop resort. They would

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have a little holiday there. As far as they were concerned, they were

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going on a safari type holiday, and they would also then fly internally

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to Gabon. At some point - and I believe it was in Gabon - their

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father would observe them and see them, which is what he wanted to do,

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to see how they were growing up and look at them from a distance. It

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was quite clear that he wouldn't meet them or speak to them, or make

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himself known to them. Because that would make it difficult for them,

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going back to their mother, if they had said, "I've seen daddy," or

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something. So that was it. Just trying to nail down on this bit of

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information - Sir John Aspinall made it very clear to you that in

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1979, 1980, Lord Lucan was alive and living in Africa. When he said,

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"Lord Lucan wants to see his children, wants to send them out

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there," I believe that was the case. Did you realise that this was a

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huge manhunt? Lord Lucan was still, in 1979, the most wanted man in

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Britain. And here you are, arranging for his children to go

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and see him, furtively, over in Africa. I just had no idea of the

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enormity of it, as you say. It was just me doing the job. Amongst many

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other things that I did in that casino world, which are quite alien

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to me, and it seemed, in a way, quite a nice thing to do, to

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facilitate a father seeing his children. If I now put it in

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context of he was a murderer, or there was a murder committed, and

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Sandra Rivett's family have obviously suffered enormously, it

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But how do we know that what Jill is saying is true? Well, we've done

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some research and I can tell you that she did work for John Aspinall

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at this casino, here in Knightsbridge. And I can introduce

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you to this man. His name is Bob Polkinghorne and he is the former

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detective inspector in charge of the Lucan case file during the

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1980s. Now retired and living in Kent, we tracked Bob down, hoping

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he could shed more light on what really happened to Lord Lucan. This

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is the first time he's publicly divulged what his investigation

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unearthed. The chief superintendent contacted me and asked me to have a

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look at the Lucan case, to see if there were any fresh developments.

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Exactly what evidence came in while you were on the case? I made a few

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enquiries around and it was quite obvious that people were aware that

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Lucan wasn't dead. And the word was that he was in Africa. Lady Lucan,

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I am quite convinced, didn't think he was dead. In fact, she said to

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me, "he was a gambler. Gamblers don't commit suicide. They always

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win the next hand". Shortly afterwards, Bob received further

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confirmation that Lucan was indeed alive and well. This time, a

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sighting from a reliable source. An eyewitness who had followed one of

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Lucan's close acquaintances as he holidayed in Africa. He was

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surprised to see this acquaintance standing on a bridge. After two or

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three minutes, he was joined by another man, whom he is adamant was

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Lord Lucan. What did you do with this new evidence? Surely you

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needed to investigate it. Normally we put these in and it comes back

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and you get approval. But for some reason, I was then later told, a

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few days later, "just continue the enquiry. You haven't got approval

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to continue". Why do you think that happened? I have no idea. There was

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no information given. Did you take that sighting of Lord Lucan

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seriously? That one I thought was genuine. So, what do you think

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happened to Lord Lucan? definitely think he was spirited

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out of the country. I think his gambling fraternity friends

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spirited him out of the country. what new evidence have we managed

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to gather? Well, first of all, we have the testimony of Jill. John

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Aspinall's former personal assistant states quite clearly in

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an interview that she was instructed to send Lord Lucan's

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children out to Africa twice between 1979 and 1981, so that the

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disgraced peer could see them. On top of that, we have interviewed

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the former detective in charge of the Lucan investigation, Bob

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Polkinghorne, who states quite clearly that he had a very credible

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eyewitness account where Lord Lucan was seen in Africa in 1981, and

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when he asked for funds to investigate further, senior

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management at Scotland Yard refused. Did John Aspinall tells you where

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he had put up Lord Lucan? Where he was hiding him? No, it was never

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said as such. I presume that Mr Aspinall, possibly Mr Goldsmith,

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helped Lucan to get to Africa. As a hideout, I guess. There is a small

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bit of evidence, in a way, that leads you to believe that he is not

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alive any more and that involves John Aspinall's final months before

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he died. Could you tell me that story? I was told that nothing else

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would be said, but that at some point, Mr Aspinall would make

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another press release, in which he would state again that John Bingham

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was dead, and that he had murdered Sandra Rivett. And that would be an

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indication that he, indeed, was dead at that time. And what sort of

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coded message was that? How did it take its form? He simply said to me,

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"with regard to some of the things you did, in terms of helping me,

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one of the things is the Lord Lucan case. I don't know what you know or

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don't know," to which I said, "I know very little". He said, "at

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some point, I will make another press announcement. You know how

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much I hate the press. I will say that it is my belief Lord Lucan is

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dead and I will also say other things about his guilt, and that

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will be a signal to you to know that he is indeed dead. And so if

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you want to speak about it after that point, it is entirely up to

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This, Jill believes, is what Aspinallmeant when he said he would

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give her a signal that Lord Lucan had died in Africa. It's John

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Aspinall's final interview which he gave to The Sunday Telegraph in the

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year 2000. Months later, Aspinall died of cancer. And it's taken Jill

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a further 12 long years to finally break the wall of silence that

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surrounded the Lucan mystery. quite ill a couple of years ago and

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had a lot of time on my hands and was reflecting life and such and

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one of the big influences on my life was John Aspinall, although

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perhaps I didn't understand it as much at the time. But in hindsight,

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do you wish that you hadn't sat on this information for so long?

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knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have sat on it for so long,

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definitely. It's only just starting to piece itself together and since

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actually opening up and talking to yourself, I have learnt a lot more

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about the case and the situation. Yes, there is some regrets.

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have you asked us to conceal your ID? We haven't paid you any money

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for this interview. You could have gone to one of the national

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newspapers and made thousands. don't want to make anything from it.

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I simply want to pass on a message, that is all. Has it sunk in now

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that you assisted in a conspiracy when a man who was wanted by

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Scotland Yard for murder was alive in '79 and 1980? I mean, does that

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worry you now? No, because I have got a clear conscience. It doesn't

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worry me. I mean, I wasn't assisting in Lord Lucan escaping or

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anything. As I say, I came into the picture sending children out to see

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this guy who I didn't know. I mean, it wasn't really all over the press

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in 1979 and 81 that they were desperately searching for the

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runaway Lord Lucan, so my conscience is clear and as I say

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all I want to do is pass on the information that I have to whoever

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Glenn Campbell with that special investigation. Now, we go back in

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time for a journey into a place with a violent and bloody history.

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Viewers of a nervous disposition should make a cup of tea. Now.

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I'm about to head into an area where - rumour has it - to look at

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someone the wrong way could get you killed. I've filled in all the

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relevant health and safety forms, and I've got a backup team on

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standby to get me out if I do get into difficulty. But the main thing

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I'm relying on today is this: If trouble starts, I'm not going to

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hang about. I'm also taking the precaution of arriving in broad

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daylight. But that's no guarantee of safety when you're heading into

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a place like this. That's right - Hawkhurst! Home to a greedy gang of

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brutal and murderous thugs. But, actually, for gang warfare and gun

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crime in this part of the world, anyway, I'm about 270 years too

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late. It may be a genteel part of the world now, but back in the

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early 18th century, this town was home to the notorious Hawkhurst

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Gang - local men who became fearsome smugglers and rode around

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Kent and Sussex as if they owned the place. You might have heard

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about them, you might have read about them, but now, you can follow

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in their hoofsteps thanks to a new trail that was the brainchild of a

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local gang of today - the Hawkhurst Partnership. The Queen's Inn is a

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good place to join the Smuggler's Trail. It's one of dozens of

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watering holes the Hawkhurst Gang used as a hang-out and a place to

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hide their booty, and where I'm meeting the Hawkhurst Partnership's

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not-at-all fearsome Yolanda Laybourne. Were you surprised about

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how many pubs on this trail? and no. I didn't think smugglers

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plotted and planned in the library or council chambers, but I was

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surprised to find a number of pubs and hostelries that are associated

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with smuggling. It is really a pub crawl, isn't it? It is a glorified

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pub crawl, yes. Never one to shirk a difficult challenge, I've decided

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to follow the trail and find out more about our smuggling past. So,

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after the Queen's Inn, my next stop is nearly a mile down the road, at

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the Oak and Ivy. Legend has it that both pubs were once connected by an

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underground smuggler's tunnel. A lot of the smuggling was associated

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with a particularly potent substance from foreign shores. It

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was a drug that many addicts craved on a daily basis. In the 1730s,

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when there was high unemployment and poverty in the countryside, tea

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was expensive stuff thanks to taxation. Just round the corner

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from Hawkhurst - in a house the gang would have passed on many a

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smuggling run - I've come to meet author Kent Barker. He says that

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smuggling tea helped make the Hawkhurst Gang popular with the

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locals, at least to begin with. People liked it. They liked cheap

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tea and brandy. There were very heavy taxes which were unpopular,

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mainly to finance foreign wars. So the smugglers were popular in the

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local community, up until about 1735, at 40, something like that.

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The government clamped down and put up huge rewards - �500, if you

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turned end a smuggler. The penalty for smuggling was execution, so the

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smugglers used whatever force was necessary to keep people quiet. To

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get some idea of how brutal the Hawkhurst Gang could be, I'm

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heading to the coast to meet smuggling expert Richard Platt. He

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says the gang murdered informers in all kinds of nasty ways - throwing

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them down wells, burying them alive, or, as this picture shows,

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literally beating them to death. They were a violent lot, and this

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tends to get overlooked in the whole mythology of smuggling - it

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tends to meet, they were jolly fine fellows. But we forget of their

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violent and murderous reputation. The Hawkhurst Gang were a brazen

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bunch, too. Just down the hill from the old Customs House in Rye is the

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Mermaid Inn, where the gang would sit and drink and store all kinds

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of smuggled goods, according to present-day proprietor Judith

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Blincow. Behind where I sit now, you could hide two people all goods.

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The fire is lit now, and the air would not have been very good, so

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it would probably have been good at this time of year. In the early

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days of the gang, there were only eight customs men for the whole of

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Kent and Sussex, so they were heavily outnumbered by the

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Hawkhurst Gang, who were said to be able to raise a crew of 500 men in

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just two hours. It took maybe 15 men to crew a boat, but to move

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that contraband of the beach could take maybe 100 or 150 people.

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Hawkhurst was on a direct route contraband was heading for London -

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that is where the market was. The smuggling gangs were inland gangs,

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because they controlled the routes to London from the coast. The gang

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relied on local farmworkers to help shift the contraband, and they

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relied on all kinds of buildings to store them in on the way to London

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- houses, barns, even churches. The Bo Peep in St Leonards was another

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popular spot for the Hawkhurst Gang. It was here - on Christmas night,

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1740 - that they landed 11 tonnes of tea. They hid it all in a barn

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near Hurst Green and went to an inn, where one of the smugglers just

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happened to look out of the window as revenue officers rode by,

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heading for the barn. He could then take a more on himself, so he

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rounded up another 30 or 40 people, road back to Hurst Green. By this

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time, the militia had got the goods. They had a cart laden with all this

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stuff. The smugglers overtook them, shots were exchanged, and the

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Revenue was killed. He died. The smugglers were not heard a tall,

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and they got their goods and took them away and succeeded in selling

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a successful run for them. For more than a decade, the Hawkhurst Gang

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ruled the region with terror. Goudhurst was yet another village

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where they spread fear and intimidation, growing more violent

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and more arrogant as their empire grew. By April 1747, the gang was

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behaving as if no one could touch them. But the people of Goudhurst

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decided they'd had enough, so they got together a local army, and here

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in the churchyard, they took on the Hawkhurst Gang. So this is my last

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stop on the trail, and author Chris Mcooey has agreed to meet me here

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at the site where the gun battle took place. The Hawkhurst gang said

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they would attack the village on the 20th, they said they would come

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from the East there, they said the time. Now that his arrogance. If

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the smugglers didn't come a long on the day and time from the direction

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they said they would! And they all drank. The shoot-out didn't go well

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for the Hawkhurst Gang. It left two of the smugglers dead and it even

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left bullets in the original church door. Two years later, the gang was

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no more. The ringleaders were hanged and their reign of terror

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was over. But today, if you know where to go and what to look for,

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you can still see plenty of signs that they were here. And it's hoped

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the trail will draw people from all over the country, eager to find out

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more about our rich smuggling Now, if you want any more

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information on tonight's show, you can visit our local Kent or Sussex

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websites, and even watch the whole show again by clicking on our

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show again by clicking on our iPlayer.

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iPlayer. Coming up next week: Targeting the

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