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Hello. On tonight's show, we'll be revealing fresh evidence that sheds | :00:02. | :00:05. | |
new light on the notorious case of Richard John Bingham, otherwise | :00:05. | :00:15. | |
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known as Lord Lucan. Speaking for son of the nanny murdered in | :00:18. | :00:24. | |
Belgravia. Everything has always been Lord Lucan this, Lord Lucan | :00:24. | :00:26. | |
that. Well, wait a minute hang on there was this very attractive | :00:27. | :00:33. | |
young lady brutally murdered that has been forgotten about. The first | :00:33. | :00:40. | |
detective on the crime scene. was an awful lot of blood about, | :00:40. | :00:43. | |
there really was. The poor woman had obviously been folded up and | :00:43. | :00:53. | |
placed in this large sack, canvas bag. And the only brother of the | :00:53. | :00:58. | |
missing Lord. Was he the sort of man to commit suicide or did he | :00:59. | :01:08. | |
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Regular viewers will know that Glenn Campbell has been | :01:28. | :01:34. | |
investigating the Lord Lucan case over a period of time. Tonight, he | :01:34. | :01:44. | |
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asks if it is time to reopen this It was 1974. There were London's | :01:53. | :01:59. | |
gambling, aristocratic elite. A rich, powerful and secretive. | :01:59. | :02:04. | |
Richard John Bingham was one of their number. Lucky Lord Lucan was | :02:04. | :02:12. | |
his nickname. That luck ran out. A murder. The brutal death of a young | :02:12. | :02:18. | |
woman. A man Holland. And finally, the vanishing Peer of the realm. | :02:19. | :02:24. | |
Was it suicide, but it is gambling friends help him escape to a secret | :02:24. | :02:32. | |
Newlife? -- did his gambling new friends happen to escape to a | :02:32. | :02:36. | |
secret new life. I'm going to show you the new evidence we have found | :02:36. | :02:41. | |
on the Lucan case. Three key documents. Two police intelligence | :02:41. | :02:45. | |
reports that show how they believe Lord Lucan was alive and well and | :02:46. | :02:54. | |
living abroad in 1979, and as recently as 2002. And this police | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
witness statement. It tells of a mystery man living in at the Lucan | :03:00. | :03:06. | |
family home in the weeks before the murder. New evidence I put to Lord | :03:06. | :03:10. | |
Lucan's only brother, who, in his first interview, reveals what he | :03:10. | :03:17. | |
thinks happened. I do believe my brother was innocent. I do not | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
believe he would have committed suicide. He was a man of | :03:21. | :03:27. | |
considerable resourcefulness and therefore I would imagine that he | :03:27. | :03:35. | |
used resources to remove himself from the picture. No more, no less, | :03:35. | :03:45. | |
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Many detectives take their work comes Ed mack. -- home. Strictly | :03:56. | :04:03. | |
speaking, they should not. But they do. This man did. His name was DCI | :04:03. | :04:09. | |
David 'Buster' Gerring. And these were his boxers. You see, back in | :04:09. | :04:15. | |
1974, DCI Gerring was the man Scotland Yard put in charge of the | :04:15. | :04:23. | |
day-to-day running of the hunt for Lord Lucan. DCI Gerring lived in | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
Tunbridge Wells. He died eight years ago. His three boxes of case | :04:29. | :04:34. | |
files and diaries have survived intact, on scene until this moment. | :04:34. | :04:42. | |
This is the woman we have to thank. If I remember rightly, a cid mack | :04:42. | :04:48. | |
in this corner. Her name is Davina chambers. Her father was DCI David | :04:48. | :04:52. | |
'Buster' Gerring. When was the last time you see in this material? | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
of them I have never seen. He just wanted them kept some were safe, | :04:56. | :05:02. | |
but not in his own possession. That is the impression we got. Our you | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
happy with the BBC taking away these notebooks and diaries to see | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
if we can find new clues? Gas, I am happy for you to do that. He would | :05:11. | :05:14. | |
like that Leckey would have liked somebody to carry on the | :05:14. | :05:21. | |
investigation. The case was never closed. These no books, diaries and | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
files dating back to 1974, and are scattered with clues, personal | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
observations and new names that transport you back to the very son | :05:30. | :05:40. | |
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of the crime. - Maxine of the crime. 39 year-old John Bingham, Lord | :05:51. | :05:57. | |
Lucan, was accused of murdering his children's nanny, Sandra Rivett, | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
and attempting to kill his estranged wife on the night of 7th | :06:02. | :06:12. | |
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November, 1974. The police believe Lord Lucan bludgeoned the family | :06:12. | :06:18. | |
nanny to death after mistaking her for his wife. He then savagely | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
attacked his estranged wife, Veronica, but she managed to escape, | :06:23. | :06:32. | |
taking refuge in this nearby pub. Finding himself the Prime suspect, | :06:32. | :06:38. | |
Lord Lucan fled the scene, driving 50 miles south to the small Sussex | :06:38. | :06:48. | |
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town of och field, where he sought Four days later, the Ford Corsair | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
Lucan had fled London in, was discovered abandoned in Newhaven. | :06:55. | :07:00. | |
An incriminating length of lead piping was still in the boot. The | :07:00. | :07:05. | |
discovery sparked a huge manhunt. Officers scoured the countryside | :07:05. | :07:10. | |
and coastline for weeks. Despite an exhaustive search, nobody was ever | :07:10. | :07:20. | |
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found. -- no body. Lucan's tightly- knit group of gambling friends | :07:21. | :07:27. | |
promoted the theory that he had committed suicide. Others, led by | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
DCI Gerring, suspected otherwise. am firmly of the opinion that he is | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
alive. I always have been. I have never changed that right from the | :07:37. | :07:46. | |
start. He thought he was spirited away somewhere. And then once he is | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
out of the country, with his contacts, the world is his oyster. | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
But spirited away where? Instructions were to make | :07:57. | :08:02. | |
arrangements for John Bingham, also known as Lord Lucan, to see his | :08:02. | :08:08. | |
children. To do that, I had to book his two eldest children on flights | :08:08. | :08:15. | |
to Africa. A pack and February, I interviewed this woman, who | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
sensationally claimed that in the 1980s, she had arranged for Lord | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
Lucan's two eldest children to fly to Africa so the missing father | :08:23. | :08:29. | |
could see them from afar. At some point, their father would observe | :08:29. | :08:36. | |
them and see them. That is what he wanted to do. See how they were | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
growing up. Her story was that she had been working for Lord Lucan's | :08:40. | :08:47. | |
close friend, John Aspinall, a man who had made no secret of his | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
willingness to help Lord Lucan, whether innocent or guilty. What I | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
probably would have done it, if he had appeared here, is anything that | :08:56. | :09:01. | |
he wished. You say if he had begged asylum from you, he would have got | :09:01. | :09:08. | |
it? He would have got it. It was John Aspinall who instructed her to | :09:08. | :09:13. | |
book the African flight. The revelations made headlines around | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
the world. Lord Lucan's children dispute that version of events. She | :09:18. | :09:24. | |
had asked us not to identify her. The following month she told the | :09:24. | :09:30. | |
same story to the Daily Telegraph. As a direct result of that | :09:30. | :09:34. | |
interview, I was put in touch with this man, someone else who had | :09:34. | :09:40. | |
papers from the past. His name is Neil Barrowman, a builder from | :09:40. | :09:46. | |
Sussex, who in 2004 was handed this brown envelope by his adoptive mum, | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
Jean, just before she died of cancer. Inside, he was told he | :09:51. | :09:56. | |
would find his birth certificate, listing his natural mother's name. | :09:56. | :10:03. | |
As promised, the envelope revealed its secret. His birth mother was | :10:03. | :10:13. | |
Sandra Rivett. And then the penny dropped. That my mother was Sandra | :10:13. | :10:20. | |
Rivett. And she had been murdered by Lord Lucan. What is it you're | :10:20. | :10:26. | |
looking for? Justice for my mother. The fact that everything is that | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
Mike has always been Lord Lucan is and Lord Lucan that. Wait a minute, | :10:31. | :10:35. | |
there was this very, very attractive young lady, brutally | :10:35. | :10:41. | |
murdered, that has been forgotten about. That was my mother. I cannot | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
traitor. Somebody has taken her life. How far are you willing to go | :10:47. | :10:55. | |
to see justice done? Whatever it takes, really. When it comes to the | :10:55. | :10:58. | |
book an investigation, as far as Scotland Yard are concerned, | :10:58. | :11:04. | |
everything has to be kept a closely guarded secret. Making this 1979 | :11:04. | :11:09. | |
intelligence report, and this 2002 intelligence file, well, highly | :11:09. | :11:17. | |
valuable, I suppose. First, the 1979 report that I found at the | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
bottom of one of DCI Gerring's all the boxes. It shows that far from | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
being in Africa, the police that good intelligence that Lord Lucan | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
was closer to home, making secret visit to a privately owned Scottish | :11:30. | :11:36. | |
estate. The file contains a map of the estate in Scotland, together | :11:36. | :11:42. | |
with photographs of the businessman suspected of harbouring Lord Lucan. | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
But just how good was the police intelligence that Lucan was | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
visiting Scotland in the late 1970s? Well, good enough for them | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
to try to send this form of Flying Squad officer there for you to work | :11:57. | :12:07. | |
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Now retired from Scotland Yard, Tony Russell spends his spare time | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
training and gun dogs. He has never spoken about his secret Lord Lucan | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
assignment before, but when I showed him the intelligence report, | :12:23. | :12:32. | |
the memories came flooding back. Is the terminology correct? Is that an | :12:32. | :12:39. | |
intelligence file from the 1970s? Absolutely. They have put a lot of | :12:39. | :12:49. | |
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research into wit. -- into it. was the detail? They asked me to go | :12:51. | :12:59. | |
to Scotland to pose as a writer, hire a cottage, to take a female | :12:59. | :13:04. | |
officer with me posing as my wife and give me a year to try and find | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
Lord Lucan, who they thought it was on that estate in Scotland. The | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
only criteria in relation to that was it we managed to find him, they | :13:14. | :13:19. | |
would be informed and they it would come to lay hands on him up rather | :13:20. | :13:25. | |
than me arresting him. So you believe they had good, credible | :13:25. | :13:32. | |
intelligence? Absolutely. doesn't know if his bosses found | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
another volunteer to go undercover because he heard nothing more about | :13:36. | :13:42. | |
the assignment. But what I do know is 23 years later, the Metropolitan | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
Police still believe Lord Lucan is alive and living under a pseudonym | :13:48. | :13:55. | |
thousands of miles away in Africa. To prove it, this is the 2002 case | :13:55. | :14:01. | |
review file, and it makes fascinating reading. Up date upon | :14:01. | :14:10. | |
current activity. Alleged sightings of Lucan in southern Africa. | :14:10. | :14:20. | |
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Photographs have been at York to do -- have been yielded. Remember what | :14:23. | :14:28. | |
Shirley said? In structures were to make arrangements for John Bingham | :14:28. | :14:37. | |
to see his children. Well, back that up with this 2002 police | :14:37. | :14:39. | |
intelligence report and the likelihood that Lord Lucan did | :14:39. | :14:47. | |
escape abroad news from a possibility to a probability. As | :14:47. | :14:53. | |
for Sandra Rivett, his alleged victim, her resting place is here, | :14:53. | :14:59. | |
in a corner of Croydon cemetery. think everyone has covered it up | :14:59. | :15:05. | |
for whatever reason. I don't know. Probably because there were some | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
wealthy and powerful people at that time and they did not want to upset | :15:08. | :15:18. | |
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them. If the police have got it right, then in 1979, Lord Lucan was | :15:19. | :15:25. | |
making secret visits to a Scottish estate and in 2002, he was living | :15:25. | :15:29. | |
in Mozambique under the pseudonym of John Crawford. If that is not | :15:29. | :15:34. | |
enough, let us show you our third and potentially most explosive | :15:34. | :15:41. | |
piece of evidence. Taken less than three weeks after the Murdoch on | :15:41. | :15:48. | |
26th November 1974, this is the witness statement of Lord Lucan's | :15:48. | :15:58. | |
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older sister, who after the murder, temporarily looked after at the | :15:58. | :16:05. | |
Lucan children. The first 12 pages detail the disintegration of the | :16:05. | :16:15. | |
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Lucan's marriage. But on page 13, a conversation is recounted between | :16:18. | :16:25. | |
Lady Sarah and her knees. It tells of a mystery man living in the | :16:25. | :16:32. | |
Lucan home in the weeks leading up to the murder of Santo Rivett. | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
were talking about home. Camilla said the boy friend always stays | :16:37. | :16:45. | |
upstairs while we have lunch. I said, what is his name? She said, I | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
do not know, he has not told me. She said he lived in the house with | :16:50. | :16:58. | |
them. I said there is nowhere for him to sleep. She said sometimes he | :16:58. | :17:03. | |
sleeps in a nanny's grin and nanny sleeps with us. She said, sometimes | :17:03. | :17:10. | |
he sleeps with mummy. It is not clear whether at the boyfriend was | :17:10. | :17:20. | |
that of Lady Lucan or the nanny. I'm assuming that she meant than | :17:20. | :17:26. | |
nanny. Lord Lucan's story, a Briton in a letter to his brother-in-law, | :17:26. | :17:31. | |
was that he disturbed an intruder attacking a woman in the basement. | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
When he tried to interrupt the fight, the man fled. It was never | :17:37. | :17:42. | |
really taken seriously. In fact six months later, Lord Lucan was found | :17:42. | :17:51. | |
guilty in his absence of the murder of Sandra Rivett by a coroner's | :17:51. | :18:01. | |
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Court jury. Lord Lucan's younger brother is still alive and lives in | :18:02. | :18:11. | |
Johannesburg. It took two meetings with him before he agreed to talk | :18:11. | :18:17. | |
on-camera. Naturally, I showed him what a work research had yielded up. | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
Even after reading them, he was guarded, insisting at first that I | :18:22. | :18:31. | |
stick to just 53 agreed questions. Lord Lucan's brother has never been | :18:31. | :18:38. | |
interviewed on television Until now. Is it the first time that you heard | :18:38. | :18:41. | |
of this second man the re in the house, or have there been whispers | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
of it before? It is certainly the first time I have heard of a second | :18:46. | :18:54. | |
man established in the house. did you feel when you read that? | :18:54. | :19:01. | |
think I felt annoyed that this information had not come out at the | :19:01. | :19:08. | |
time and it is clearly relevant to the situation and should, in my | :19:08. | :19:17. | |
opinion, have been presented, certainly at their inquest. | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
your system mentioned to you there was this other man in the house? | :19:21. | :19:31. | |
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Surely that would have been an excellent defence for your brother? | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
In retrospect, yes. But I don't recall a conversation with her | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
about that. Do you believe your brother Lord Lucan was innocent. | :19:43. | :19:52. | |
do believe my brother was innocent. I think he realised immediately | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
that the dice were very heavily loaded against him. That there was | :19:57. | :20:05. | |
a considerable body of almost evidence that pointed towards him | :20:05. | :20:15. | |
and not in any decisive way towards anyone else. He decided the only | :20:15. | :20:23. | |
alternative was to remove himself on the picture. He chose to do that. | :20:23. | :20:29. | |
How did he remove himself from the picture? Was he the sort of man to | :20:29. | :20:37. | |
commit suicide? Or did he leave the UK? Those are not necessarily | :20:37. | :20:40. | |
exhaustive possibilities. I don't believe he would have committed | :20:40. | :20:48. | |
suicide. He was a man of considerable resourcefulness and | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
therefore I would imagine... But again, I have absolutely no | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
knowledge of anything along these lines that he used resources to | :20:57. | :21:06. | |
remove himself from the picture. No more, no less. I think. What do you | :21:06. | :21:10. | |
make of the 2002 Scotland Yard intelligence report that we showed | :21:10. | :21:20. | |
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you that mentions John Crawford living incognito? I have never come | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
across that name. I think it is highly unlikely that my brother | :21:32. | :21:42. | |
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would be living in Mozambique. Joan Crawford is as good a name as any | :21:44. | :21:51. | |
if you want to live incognito, but beyond that, absolutely nothing. | :21:51. | :21:54. | |
you think he made the right decision to flee abroad? Some | :21:54. | :22:02. | |
people have said that is the actions of a guilty man. There is | :22:02. | :22:07. | |
that unfortunate factor, but it was his decision at the time and I am | :22:07. | :22:17. | |
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sure he made it in the for light of his knowledge of how the wheels of | :22:20. | :22:27. | |
justice would grind away and that that would make his life unbearable | :22:27. | :22:34. | |
if he stayed. Do you still think you but there is a live, what or is | :22:34. | :22:40. | |
he now dead? He is likely to not be alive, but not through any suicide | :22:40. | :22:49. | |
of his own, anything by his own hands, but just natural facts of | :22:49. | :22:55. | |
nature. Why have you decided to talk to the BBC? A I am encouraged | :22:55. | :23:03. | |
by the idea that there is a fresh source of evidence and that, I feel, | :23:03. | :23:09. | |
wants to be given a fair hearing. This seems to me to be one way of | :23:09. | :23:15. | |
achieving that. The detective sergeant who took the mystery man | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
witness statement back in 1974 is still alive and enjoying his | :23:19. | :23:25. | |
retirement. His name is Graeme Forsyth. This is the first time he | :23:25. | :23:35. | |
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has spoken about the horrific scene he walk into. There was an awful | :23:35. | :23:42. | |
lot of blood around. The poor woman had been folded up and placed in | :23:42. | :23:49. | |
this large canvas sack. In the days and weeks after the murder, DS for | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
site became Lady Lucan's bodyguard and the lead detective on the | :23:53. | :24:03. | |
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ground. Is that the right format? It certainly is. I probably took | :24:09. | :24:17. | |
this statement. Up he was the mystery man? -- who was the mystery | :24:17. | :24:27. | |
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man? As far as I can recall, Sandra Rivett had a boyfriend. I think, | :24:30. | :24:35. | |
and I can't be certain, he was a seaman. He may have been a | :24:35. | :24:44. | |
Norwegian. On the occasion, he may have stayed overnight. The young | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
girl told me he occasionally stayed, but that is as far as I can take | :24:48. | :24:53. | |
that. Isn't that incredibly important? It potentially puts | :24:54. | :25:03. | |
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another man in the House in the days and weeks before the murder. | :25:04. | :25:10. | |
Was the mystery man traced? wasn't. There was no doubt in our | :25:10. | :25:17. | |
mind as to who the murderer was. she was telling the truth, Camilla, | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
when she told the story to her aunt and then her aunt's relate the | :25:22. | :25:28. | |
story to you? I see no reason for it not to be true. She was a little | :25:28. | :25:33. | |
girl. Was used to pride that Lady Lucan would have allowed a | :25:33. | :25:43. | |
Norwegian sailor into her family home? It's not for me to say. | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
he was never traced? As far as I am aware. We wrote to Lady Lucan | :25:48. | :25:53. | |
asking for her views on the witness statement, but we have not received | :25:53. | :25:58. | |
a reply. It is a crime that has perplexed beat nation for nearly | :25:58. | :26:03. | |
four decades. A grisly murder in Belgravia and a vanishing peer of | :26:03. | :26:09. | |
the realm. But still fresh evidence continues to surface. Like three | :26:09. | :26:14. | |
boxes hidden away in a Sussex laughed. If you have not come | :26:14. | :26:21. | |
calling, they would still be stuck in the loft. Two secret police | :26:21. | :26:27. | |
intelligence reports that say Lucan escape to brought a renewed life. | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
It is a pity Scotland Yard didn't put enough resources into finding | :26:31. | :26:35. | |
him. And by far the most intriguing, this witness statement about the | :26:35. | :26:41. | |
mystery man, who was living in the Lucan family home in the days and | :26:41. | :26:49. | |
weeks before the murder, the murder of Neil Berryman's mother. I am | :26:49. | :26:56. | |
still baffled by this second person. I can't deal with that in my head. | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
If there is another murderer, I need to get to the bottom of it. I | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
need to know who and why the police have done nothing about it and what | :27:04. | :27:10. | |
they are going to do about it now. But basically, it is justice for my | :27:10. | :27:18. | |
mother. I want to know the truth. Lord Lucan's brother believes this | :27:18. | :27:24. | |
witness a man could be grounds for a review of the 1975's coroners | :27:24. | :27:30. | |
guilty verdict. I just hope that now, in the way that the evidence | :27:30. | :27:38. | |
seems to be gathering, that maybe the inquest result could be set | :27:38. | :27:46. | |
aside and if that happened, then a warrant of arrest would fall away | :27:46. | :27:54. | |
and my brother's situation would be restored to the normal situation of | :27:54. | :28:00. | |
a man innocent until proven guilty. And if that happens, it begs the | :28:00. | :28:04. | |
question, if Lord Lucan did not murder of Sandra Rivett, then he | :28:04. | :28:14. | |
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did? -- then who did? That was Glen Campbell with that | :28:16. | :28:20. | |
special report. If you want any more information on tonight's show, | :28:20. | :28:26. | |
you can go to our Kent or Sussex websites. You can also watch the | :28:26. | :28:33. | |
programme again on iPlayer. Coming on next week - what happens to | :28:33. | :28:39. | |
young people when they need care and have no parents to turn to? | :28:39. | :28:45. | |
the moment I am are here on the streets, fighting for survival. | :28:45. | :28:51. |