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One year in the life of the new Police And Crime Commissioner for

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Sussex. What, exactly, do you do? Are you happy with policing locally?

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Are there issues you want to raise with me? The homes being destroyed

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by Japanese knotweed. We are told we needed to have our house torn down.

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You do not expect that. And you go, but not with a straight face. ——

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yoga. I'm here with untold stories closer to home from all around the

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south—east. This is Inside Out. We are in Egerton, just outside Ashford

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in Kent. We're back here later but first, one year ago, for the first

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time, both Kent and Sussex held elections for the new American—style

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police and crime commissioners. What exactly have they achieved? In the

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first of two mag reports, we focus on Sussex. —— first of two reports.

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Sussex police officers are at work in Brighton. For one year, they have

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been operating under a new regime. Katy Vaughan is duly elected as

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Police And Crime Commissioner for the Sussex police area. For the

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first time, and American—style police Commissioner was elected. Mid

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Sussex district council and businesswoman, Katie Burnett. But

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the turnout was only 15.8%, tiny compared with other elections. The

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problem was that people did not really know what it police

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Commissioner was. No one year has gone by. We clear? Lets look back at

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the last 12 months and find out what Katie did. —— are we clearer?

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I'm here with the police because it is important that they are out in

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the community. What do you do for a living? You know that election last

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year? The one and no one voted for. They did, because I'd got elected.

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I'm trying to get to all the towns and villages to meet people and have

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a chat and make sure they're happy with policing. Hello, what is your

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name? Abigail. That is a beautiful name. You want the police and the

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for Sussex. What do you do? —— you are the Police And Crime

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Commissioner for Sussex. I'm here to represent the public and make sure

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they get the priorities for policing they get the priorities for policing

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that they want. She spends a lot of time in her office or out on the

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street meeting people to talk about policing. In the old days, until one

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year ago, Sussex police were overseen by the Sussex police

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authority on a group of fairly anonymous, unelected representatives

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of the community. Now they have gone. They have been replaced by a

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single elected Police And Crime Commissioner. Now what is unchanged

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is that Sussex police are independently assessed as normal by

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Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary, so that is unchanged,

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and Katie Burnett is herself scrutinised by something called the

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police and panel, a group of mainly district and county councillors. ——

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Katie Bourne. Every month, Katie meets with the Chief Constable of

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Sussex to hold him to account. She has the power to sack him if

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necessary. What is on the agenda? Bolcom. The protests against test

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drilling for fracking were by far the biggest challenge that Sussex

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police faced this year. —— Balcombe. The number one story is that you are

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getting the grilling on your handling of the Balcombe situation.

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And would like to think that she is checking we are policing Balcombe

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efficiently as possible. Some could describe it as a drilling ——

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grilling. Can you explain the use of force in the protests and in

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particular, the use of pressure points as a tactic?

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Out of order! Out of order! The use of force can look dramatic and

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alarming. # We shall not, we shall not be moved. In the televised

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incidents, we were negotiating with the individuals concerned. For over

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two hours. The communication level continued to no avail. After that,

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we carried out this pressure points technique. I thought that was

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disproportionate. It hurts. I do not know why. Why was no protest in, but

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just to get a sense of what looks, watching it on the television,

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alarming. It does hurt. It does not cause any injury, and it is

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disabling. It allows us to remove the person from that unlawful

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possession to a lawful place. And then business can carry on.

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Do you remember the election last November? People said, what was the

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point? It was somebody to hold the police to account and it was me that

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God voted in. I'm here to speak to members of the public and

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organisations, and I said the priorities for policing in Sussex.

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—— got voted in. I am in conservative. That is how God voted

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in. Lovely to meet you. By. —— bye. Katie writes a police and the plan,

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setting out priorities. In response, the chief constable comes up with an

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operational delivery plan, setting out how Sussex police deliver what

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it wants. The person who came second in the election is Godfrey Daniel

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from Labour. He says that the old system of the police authority was

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better. Now there is too much power in the hands of one person, and

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things happen behind closed doors. It is a shame to hear him sing

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about. Maybe he would not be saying that he was sitting here instead of

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me. We are more transparent, I assure you. But Godfrey races the

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subject of Steve Waite. Katie wanted to make him her deputy commissioner.

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The police and the panel opposed the idea, because they said he would not

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have enough time because of other commitments. Katie appointed him

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anyway. Six months later, he resigned for personal reasons. The

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appointment and the disappearance of Steve Waite raises real concerns. He

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was appointed under some controversy. He was enormously

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experienced. He had run the police authority for a number of years and

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it is unclear why he suddenly felt that this was not the role for him.

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After six months, I was sorry to see him go but he felt that he wanted to

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move on. In that respect his decision. The panel advised against

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him being employed, because he would be too busy. And sure enough, he

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resigned. —— by respected his decision. It was not because he was

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too busy, it was personal reasons. At the credibility meeting, they are

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still talking about Balcombe. I will raise my own concern because they

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did not rush to the site on day one. But did go down on day three it

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became apparent that no member of the senior command team have visited

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the site. Can you put a figure on the cost? I cannot. Our recent

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operation... It became a regular occurrence, which I was pleased to

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see. Why was happy to step back. It is a pity that that was not raised

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at the time. I was aware that my deputies attended the scene. I was

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not aware that that only happened after the your visit. Perhaps you

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could reassure me outside of this meeting that that was the case. That

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would be good. I will need to reassure myself as well. Today, the

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Police And Crime Commissioner for Sussex has materialised in Hastings.

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It really takes off. It does. You arrived in your own TARDIS. That or

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a broomstick. This is a great focal point for the young. It is better

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than having a police car parked here. Have a look. Are you happy

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with policing locally? Are there issues that you want to raise? Is

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not a problem that you have no experience in policing. —— is it

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not. I see that as a bonus, having no experiencing —— experience,

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because I am asking the right questions, the questions the public

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want asked. Some of the Balcombe residents have raised a question

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around the arrests. I wonder, can you explain the snatch a rest

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tactic. —— arrest. If you make an arrest, you want to make it quickly

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in these environments. We have teams are moving very quickly and make a

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quick arrest, and move out again. You are under arrest for failing to

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observe section 44. The message coming through to me around this

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technique was that it did not necessarily occur at a time when

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people could see the reason why that particular person was being

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arrested. It would perhaps happen 24 hours later. I understand that point

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and I'm glad you have made it but that is a consequence of careful

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planning. It can be further evidence gathering in between times. To

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someone who sees that on YouTube or as they passed by, for no obvious

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reason, the officers should be explaining to the person they are

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arresting why they are being arrested. But they do not have the

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same obligation to explain to every member of the public why a single

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individual is being arrested. And so Katie carries on meeting the

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public. Why can the police not do something about the travellers? And

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Sussex police go about daily business. But the fundamental

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difference is that the police Commissioner is now a political

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post. The voters will have the final say. The next election could be held

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in May 2016. it is an aerobic work—out, and they

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liken it to 20 minutes on the rowing machine.

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It is absolutely fantastic, a nice way to start the morning.

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Well, it's got mortgage lenders running scared, the government

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estimates it could cost £1.5 billion to eradicate, and it could even land

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you in prison. It is Japanese knotweed ,and it is one more reason

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for sleepless nights over the property market. Here is Mark

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Jordan. Our neighbourhoods are being

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invaded. house torn down.

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You don't expect that when you have just brought a brand—new home. A

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destructive force deep below your home.

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I was in floods of tears. That is our money gone.

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Be very afraid if Japanese knotweed if growing in your garden.

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It can push into foundations, it can push into drainage pipes, blocking

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drains. How strong is it? It can push

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through tarmac and concrete. How deep can it go? Three metres deep

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quite easily, as it does in Japan. And how dormant? There are reports

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of it being as long as 20 years if it is buried deep enough and

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resurges. of it

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This plant is strong enough to undermine foundations. Matt and

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Susie had no idea thei £300,000 house was built on top of knotweed.

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I wanted a brand—new build and no problems. We first spotted it coming

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up through the garden, a bit like asparagus tips. Never seen it

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before, so I had to get some advice in.

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The worst moment was finding it growing in the house, that was just

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shocking. Forcing its way up through the floor, yet their home survey had

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not even spotted it outside. And insurers now refuse to pay out.

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The house cost in excess of £300,000 and if we didn't treat the problem

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we were told it would be a value of £150—160,000. The first contractor

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said we would have to literally knock the house down and rebuild it.

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It was cheaper to do that than actually remove the knotweed, from

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what they were saying. So, how has Japanese knotweed made

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such an audacious attack across Britain?

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This story begins over 150 years ago, when Victorian plant collectors

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gathered just one sample of the tough but seemingly beautiful plant

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on a volcanic range in Nagasaki Japan.

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It comes from the volcanic fumaroles of Japan where it is inundated with

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hideous gases and soil and moisture, so it is an incredibly strong

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plant, it is well—equipped. It was an undiscovered country, so it was a

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place where amazing new exotic things came from.

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Around 1850, just one plant was shipped to Kew Gardens. Cuttings

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were sold on. The RHS stores the innocent ads.

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Here is a picture of it, the great Japan knotweed, fine plants in deep

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soils and certainly can take care of themselves. The invasion had begun.

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Well, it soon escaped the garden through natural means, bits of

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rhizome spreading. It doesn't spread by seed, so everything we see in

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Britain in the main is one big female cloned from one plant, and it

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Britain in the main is one big has been called the largest female

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on Earth. So when you dig it up and you chop it up and you dump it, a

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piece could be as small as this? Much smaller than that. Smaller than

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the size of a pea will still grow. Roads, rivers, railways, fly—tippers

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and gardeners have spread the mother plant's brood. I'm on patrol with a

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knotweed exterminator. How has it got into your garden?

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There is a wall there, we are in a terraced road, how did it get here?

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I have no idea. Claire is one of thousands no having

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to call in the professionals. There is no instant fix. Anybody

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that tells you they can kill Japanese knotweed instantly is

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lying. It is one tough mother. This firm offers five—year

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guaranteed eradication plans. Plants are regularly injected with poison.

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Treatments can cost up to £25,000. You would ignore knotweed at your

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peril. Certainly it will flag up if you try and sell your property. If

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Japanese knotweed grows from your property into an adjacent property,

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given it can grow up to seven metres in all directions per season, if it

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grows into an adjacent property you could be sued for damages under

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private nuisance. We have a lot of cowboy contractors

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coming into the industry. Somebody had spent £15,000 on a contractor

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and actually had the situation made worse. We quoted £25,000 to resolve

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We've had cases where the situation.

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We've had cases where people have come in and killed and destroyed an

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entire garden trying to target what they consider to be Japanese

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knotweed and it wasn't Japanese knotweed in the first place. Killed

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everything. The plant's also taking its toll on

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home—buyers. We are living out of boxes now as a consequence of

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knotweed. A cautious first—time buyer, Natalie

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paid for a full survey on her new dream home, but it failed to spot

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the knotweed. She discovered it herself.

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It was only a few days before exchange, but the bank was made

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aware of the knotweed in the garden, and that is when they decided that

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the mortgage was off. With all the furniture for the new

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home arriving, they found a second lender.

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The knotweed was at the end of the garden, about 90 feet away from the

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house, but in just a few weeks it advanced roughly 60 feet to a point

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where it was only about 30 feet away from the house.

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That was now too close for the second lender, and

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withdrew. I wouldn't try to buy a property

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that has Japanese knotweed. It is... It's doomed to fail, basically.

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Do you feel that it's a bit of a mess at the moment?

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I don't think there is a mess, I think it is an evolving situation.

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It has gained so much awareness that it can make a property unpopular

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among potential buyers. A lender has to consider all of those things.

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Worried they will never be able to sell, these owners are having 20

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tonnes of knotweed—infested garden dug up and removed. It will cost

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£5,000. It is a meticulous process. If you cut this off, a tiny piece

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like that, the size of my fingernail, if we leave that on site

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that will regrow. And that is just one garden. The

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Canal and River Trust has had to spend £500,000 helping keep knotweed

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from thousands of neighbouring homes.

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from thousands of neighbouring Just here, there is a pathway and

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there is a housing development. And in order to protect this from the

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roots of knotweed, which can penetrate through concrete and

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tarmac, we need this dead zone. They have to continually poison this

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two metre front line. There is no money for the rest.

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Right behind me we have got a virtually impenetrable woodland of

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knotweed. At this location, we really can't win the war against

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Japanese knotweed, but we are fighting a continuous battle.

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On this bank, knotweed has been poisoned, cut, cleared and burnt.

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But it is already back. Homes wrecked, neighbour turned

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against neighbour, banks running scared and fortunes spent on an

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alien that has no natural predator. You know what happens in the movies

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— they call the scientists. There are 186 species feeding on the

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plant in Japan, and our job is to try and find the things that only

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attack Japanese knotweed and don't pose a threat to the rest of the

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environment. We ended up with a thing called the

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psyllid. The psyllid sucks the sap out of the plant.

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The bio—scientists at CABI had found a bug that only eats knotweed.

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These are the critters in action, so tell me about these.

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This is healthy knotweed, just had the psyllids put in. This is a month

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later, starting to show some action, and then two months later, with real

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damage showing. So they are really suffering?

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Yes, these plants won't grow from this point. The psyllids have been

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released in eight secret UK test sites.

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How long will it be before knotweed is falling like this?

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We normally say between five and ten years to know whether you are

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getting a success, and we're nowhere near that yet, but we are still very

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hopeful. A few good summers and we could have a really good run at it.

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As those psyllids muster for battle, Suzie and Matt fired the cowboys

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that wanted to buldoze their home. So this is the front line, really?

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Four years and £30,000 worse off, they no whave an eradication plan

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that is working. The battle goes on, but I think

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we're winning the war. So, now you know what knotweed looks

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like. The leaves will die for winter, but they be back. Mark

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Jordan reporting. Now, they say laughter is the best medicine, but

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one group of people is taking laughter therapy very seriously

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indeed. Trying to keep a straight face, it's Laura Ansell.

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MUSIC: 'Monday Morning Blues' by Mississippi John Hurt

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A weekday morning and it's almost 7pm. And for most of us that's no

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laughing matter. In Egerton near Ashford, Cathy Hill is waking up.

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But before getting ready for work or even having breakfast, Cathy is

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expecting a very important call. I've just been laughing with my

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friend Theresa, and she lives 500 or 600 miles away in France.

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We've been laughing together on the phone in the morning for two or

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three years. We laugh on a weekday morning before we go to work. It

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just gets the day off to a really good start.

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Cathy isn't the only one who starts the day like this. Meet Heidi from

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Hythe near Southampton, and Jo, who is 60—odd miles away in Dorchester.

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They're dialling into a conference call, but with a difference.

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You just dial up and laugh, and hang up ten minutes later. And that's it.

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Some of the laughs are so distinct, and there's one particular lady who

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has got such a giggle, and that just sets me off. It is an aerobic

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work—out, and they liken it to 20 minutes on the rowing machine. It's

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absolutely fantastic. It's a nice way to start the

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morning, I think. The telephone laughter club has been

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running for five years and has around 40 members. Bye!

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What starts with a slightly forced chuckle soon turns into a genuine

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belly laugh. For Cathy, the chuckling doesn't end

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with the phone call. After laughing on the telephone in the morning, I

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laugh on my way to work. I practically bounce into work if I

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laugh all the way in the car. So, what do her colleagues at

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Egerton Primary School think of the cheery disposition?

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It is great to know that she is going to be there, bouncing around

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with humour and going to be there, bouncing around

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you feel good about yourself and it is good for us because we pass it

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onto the children. It's infectious. OK, off we go.

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We like to do a range of things THEY LAUGH

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We like to do a range of things for our children to get them wide awake

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and ready for learning in the morning. Laughter is one of them

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which we do sometimes. We have yoga, a breakfast club which has different

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is physical activities we do fencing before school. Anything that gets

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children awake and ready to learn is good for us.

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And the effects are spreading all the way to this pub garden

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# I love to laugh. New Forest.

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# I love to laugh. # Loud and long and clear.

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# I love to laugh. # It's getting worse every year... #

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Free classes like this originally started in the mid—90s with just

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five people in a park in India. It has been growing ever since. Now

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it's a worldwide craze, with more than 6,000 laughter clubs in over 60

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countries. Today is Brett's first time at

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Laughter Club and it's made quite an impression on him.

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About ten years ago I was put away in prison, I was addicted to crack,

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so I've tried every drug under the sun. But when you start to laugh

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it's a natural, pure drug, and now I pass it on, so it becomes

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contagious. When you help other people laugh it

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ripples out into the world. It's definitely the best drug I have ever

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tried — it's free, My name is Tony. I am here because

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my wife asked me to come. I thought I can go to one, say I've been,

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don't like it, won't come again. But 12 months later I'm still here.

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Laughter is certainly the best medicine, and I think if more people

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laughed in the world it would be a much happier place.

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If you laugh, others will laugh with you but people don't all want to

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come to what they call... This is like a session, isn't it? It is a

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shame they don't, but there we are. The British, I think, are like that.

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We are very reserved, aren't we? We don't like to just let go, and I

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think it's good to let go. I'm losing it! I'm laughing, and I

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don't know if I'm laughing with them or at them, or maybe this really is

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working! I don't know what's funny!

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I can't breathe! It's thought that the average

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four—year—old laughs 300 times a day, whilst a 40—year—old only four

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times. I'm not saying this is the only way to be happy, this is the

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only way to be healthy, but I am saying it is a really

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only way to be healthy, but I am be both of those things, and it's

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really enjoyable. Just to watch other people in that

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joy and that kind of excitement, it just sets you off. I can feel it

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now, I want to start laughing. Are you coming back?

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100%, I've been thinking about it, when's my next fix?!

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No matter where you are, laughter therapy is spreading, so perhaps we

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will all feel a bit better if we just keep smiling.

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If you want any more information about tonight's show, then you can

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go to our Kent or Sussex websites. You can also watch the whole show

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again on iPlayer. Coming up next week...

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A foodie special. How confident can we be that the food we eat is what

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we think it is? Join me, Jay Rayner, for the truth behind food fraud.

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And we follow the winners and losers of this year's harvest. If we could

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get the answer to the weather and predict the weather better, it would

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make our job so much easier. That's all from us for tonight from

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Egerton. Thank you for watching. See you next week.

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