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We investigate the illegal dxport of live horses from Dover. It's not | :00:00. | :00:10. | |
only a matter for equine welfare, it is actually an issue for hulan | :00:11. | :00:13. | |
health, as well. Love, life and loss ` we look behind | :00:14. | :00:22. | |
the doors of a hospice. I w`s convinced it is a place of death. | :00:23. | :00:26. | |
You come in, you die and go out in a box, you know? It is so much more | :00:27. | :00:29. | |
than that. The last visible remains of a German | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
U`Boat from World War I, but should Medway's submarine be saved or | :00:34. | :00:41. | |
allowed to disappear? It is the only survivor from World War I that very | :00:42. | :00:47. | |
nearly crippled Britain. I'm Natalie Graham with untold | :00:48. | :00:52. | |
stories closer to home. Frol all round the South East, this hs Inside | :00:53. | :00:54. | |
Out. Hi, I'm at the Artillery Tower on | :00:55. | :01:12. | |
the Isle of Grain, built to defend the Thames Estuary and the louth of | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
the River Medway. We are back here later, but, first up, here's David | :01:17. | :01:18. | |
Whiteley. It is a year since the horsd meat | :01:19. | :01:26. | |
scandal broke and, to some, it was a shock that an animal, which in this | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
country is seen as a companhon, could end up in our food. Btt is | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
there an illegal trade in otr horses and ponies who are ending up abroad | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
for slaughter? We have discovered this really murky trade in low`value | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
equines across Europe. It is not only a matter for equine welfare, it | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
is also a huge problem for dquine health and, as we have seen because | :01:49. | :01:52. | |
of the relation with the food industry and the food trade, it is | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
also an issue for human health, as well. | :01:57. | :01:59. | |
It's August and, over a weekend period at Dover, among the lorries | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
boarding the ferries there `re horses and ponies being takdn to the | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
continent. And they are being watched by a Norfolk charitx. We are | :02:07. | :02:12. | |
just ringing you with one that has just come through. I don't know if | :02:13. | :02:16. | |
it rings a bell, but he didn't stop for any checks or anything. | :02:17. | :02:20. | |
The charity World Horse Welfare has spent months trying to get to the | :02:21. | :02:24. | |
bottom of what happens to these horses onhjce they are shipped | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
abroad. Under an agreement with France, Ireland and the UK, sports | :02:28. | :02:33. | |
horses can be moved freely. Low`value ponies like this `re | :02:34. | :02:36. | |
certainly not covered by thd agreement. World Horse Welf`re | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
believes some traders are abusing the law and exporting ponies and | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
avoiding health, welfare chdcks and other paperwork. The Tripartite | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
Agreement is something that has been around for decades. In 2005, it was | :02:51. | :02:54. | |
expanded to effectively include all horses. It excludes slaughtdr | :02:55. | :03:00. | |
horses, but, of course, it hs very easy to go round saying my `nimal is | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
not going to slaughter. At the time of the horse meat scandal, the | :03:07. | :03:09. | |
Government said that there was no evidence of horses and ponids | :03:10. | :03:11. | |
regularly being transported abroad for human consumption and, hf there | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
was, then its surveillance `t ports would pick this up. But this | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
investigation has found, in most cases, these checks are not | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
happening. The charity belidves that live horses are being shippdd to the | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
continent without any health checks or even the basic standards of | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
welfare, and this is going on under the radar. Its aim is to get the law | :03:31. | :03:37. | |
tightened to stop the abuse, but it needs hard evidence. We will let you | :03:38. | :03:45. | |
know which one he gets on, but he has gone through much quickdr than | :03:46. | :03:48. | |
all the others so far. We are just monitoring which horse | :03:49. | :03:51. | |
transports are coming through the ports and going out, which ferry is | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
there and to see what checks are being done. We have had information | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
that wagons with horses on `re going through with no checks at all. So, | :04:00. | :04:03. | |
what would you do with the information? Say you see a horse | :04:04. | :04:06. | |
transport that arouses your suspicions, what do you do with the | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
information? We are logging everything that comes through, | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
whether it's a two`horse box or a larger wagon that a dealer light | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
use. We are logging everythhng down and are sending the information to | :04:21. | :04:27. | |
our team in Adinkerke, Belghum. Anything of interest, they will see | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
where they are going, to sed if they are going to the correct pl`ces | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
Adinkerke is in Belgium, whdre the other team is based. I meet up with | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
this team in the evening. They have information that a lorry full of | :04:43. | :04:45. | |
horses has passed through Dover and arrived at Calais and they want to | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
know where it is going. Frol previous surveillance trips we have | :04:52. | :04:54. | |
done, we have an idea that this is the route he takes, on this road | :04:55. | :05:01. | |
heading down towards Antwerp. To prove that the horse dealer is | :05:02. | :05:04. | |
breaking the law they need to see where the horses are going to. So, | :05:05. | :05:08. | |
we drive to the main intersdction and wait in a lay`by. Well, we are | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
sitting here waiting to get a call from our colleagues who are down the | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
road, hoping to spot him coling this way, at which point we will take | :05:17. | :05:19. | |
over the surveillance and gdt behind the lorry and start trailing where | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
he is going. It is a long wait. Four hours later, | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
the team get an update from their colleague. Yeah, OK, will do. | :05:31. | :05:32. | |
Cheers. He is basically concerned that he | :05:33. | :05:42. | |
has not come this way, becatse he is saying that the ferry has docked... | :05:43. | :05:50. | |
Quite some time ago now. Ye`h. And even if he stopped for refudlling | :05:51. | :05:58. | |
the team would have seen hil by now. They've lost the dealer. | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
But, just a few days later, he tries to ship 22 horses and ponies from | :06:03. | :06:07. | |
Dover. This time action is taken, but not by the Port Authorities but | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
a ferry company. P Ferries, which has a policy that it will not carry | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
livestock for slaughter. Thdy told Inside Out it took action. Ht had | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
become concerned about a large consignment of horses travelling in | :06:25. | :06:27. | |
a poor state of health and with possibly the wrong document`tion. | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
P refused permission for the trader to board. P also told | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
Inside Out that it had caught this dealer twice trying to travdl on its | :06:35. | :06:37. | |
ferries with a large consignment of horses. But it could not stop him. | :06:38. | :06:41. | |
He simply used another ferrx company. Over the same period, the | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
charity recorded a number of horse transports from Dover. But there | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
were no Government Animal Hdalth Officers there to inspect if they | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
were fit and legal to travel. We know over that over one 48`hour | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
weekend there were 51 shipmdnts exported from Dover to France, and | :07:01. | :07:07. | |
41 imports. These are vehicles taking between two and 22 horses, so | :07:08. | :07:16. | |
you can get a feel of the scale What we do know is there was not a | :07:17. | :07:20. | |
single check done by the authorities during that weekend. There was | :07:21. | :07:23. | |
actualy a check done by P, the ferry company. It is wonderful they | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
did that. But, of course, it is not there job to do that. | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
So, no official from DEFRA checked these exports, from what yot saw? | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
No, there were no checks done by Animal Health whatsoever ovdr those | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
48 hours. The charity says that the l`ck of | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
enforcement is affecting all ports. And somebody who has transported | :07:43. | :07:45. | |
thousands of horses and ponhes through Harwich and Dover told us | :07:46. | :07:49. | |
they are right. He agreed to talk to us as long as we did not reveal his | :07:50. | :07:55. | |
identity. We go through a lot of ports, through the UK, Irel`nd and | :07:56. | :07:58. | |
Europe and we have not been checked as much as we should be. Thdre are | :07:59. | :08:03. | |
not so many animal health pdople at the ports to check us. Maybd once a | :08:04. | :08:08. | |
year in Dover. We transport hundreds of horses and the ferry companies, | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
they don't have a clue, so they are not really interested as long as you | :08:13. | :08:16. | |
give them what they ask for, andf that's it. | :08:17. | :08:19. | |
If low`value horses from thd UK are ending up in the slaughter houses of | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
Europe, then meat that is unchecked could be ending up in the htman food | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
chain. We put our concerns to DEFRA. Animal Health Officers can `nd will | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
undertake stringent checks `t ports where there are good grounds to | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
believe that rules are being breached which may represent a risk | :08:35. | :08:40. | |
to the health and welfare of horses. The Government has now annotnced | :08:41. | :08:43. | |
that, from May, the rules on horse exports will be tightened. Only | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
horses that have had regular vet checks, such as race horses, will be | :08:48. | :08:50. | |
allow to travel without being inspected by a vet before | :08:51. | :08:56. | |
travelling. This could now protect thousands of vulnerable horses and | :08:57. | :08:59. | |
ponies, but only if the changes are enforced. It is a first step, a | :09:00. | :09:05. | |
critical step. We now have `n enforceable piece of legisl`tion, | :09:06. | :09:08. | |
but it will be worthless unless it is enforced. Animals will continue | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
to suffer. World Horse Welf`re's evidence is now the subject of an | :09:16. | :09:17. | |
official inquiry. David Whiteley reporting. | :09:18. | :09:30. | |
Coming up on Inside Out: How to face life and deat in a hospice. Cancer | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
has always been around in mx life, but never as close as it is now | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
what with Trevor The Tumour, as Mike named him! | :09:40. | :09:54. | |
Now, the wreck of a World W`r I U`Boat lying on the mud of the River | :09:55. | :10:01. | |
Medway is the last of its khnd in the world. Once a feared war | :10:02. | :10:03. | |
machine, it was surrendered, partially dismantled and thdn dumped | :10:04. | :10:07. | |
nearly 100 years ago. In thhs centenary year, it begs the | :10:08. | :10:10. | |
question, should it be rescted or should it just be allowed to slowly | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
dissolve into history? Robin Gibson finds out. | :10:14. | :10:27. | |
Here lies one of the River Ledway's best kept secrets. This is ` German | :10:28. | :10:34. | |
U`Boat ` a submarine from the First World War. It's laid here plundered, | :10:35. | :10:40. | |
abandoned, seemingly forgotten for nearly 100 years. It's rare, very | :10:41. | :10:49. | |
rare. It's the only survivor from World War I that very nearlx | :10:50. | :10:55. | |
crippled Britain. There is no other weapon that could have defe`ted | :10:56. | :11:03. | |
Britain. So, what do we havd here? A heap of useless tangled met`l or a | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
historical treasure? How did it get here? Why was it abandoned? And if | :11:08. | :11:11. | |
it is the last of its kind, is it worth saving for posterity? Let s | :11:12. | :11:13. | |
ask Rochester. Its history, so it should bd looked | :11:14. | :11:25. | |
after, loathed and cherished, brought back to life some w`y. If | :11:26. | :11:33. | |
it's the only one left, can't you sell it back to the Germans? So | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
what price a rusting piece of history when people are strtggling | :11:39. | :11:42. | |
in the present? It's hard to believe now that it was a feared we`pon in | :11:43. | :11:51. | |
its time. U`boats learned a reputation as indiscriminatd | :11:52. | :11:54. | |
killers. They came from nowhere and disappeared. The experts sedm to | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
agree that the U`boat is UB022. This is a photograph of her, takdn during | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
her short life on active service. It seems to fit. It is one of these | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
things, to others at the molent it is a rusting heap of iron. Hn 1 0 | :12:13. | :12:19. | |
years, people will say, well, why didn't we have at least one example | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
of this technology anywhere? Jak Showell is an expert on U`boats and | :12:26. | :12:31. | |
has written many books about him. He lives near Folkestone and hhs own | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
father was killed in a U`bo`t in World War II. This is a technology | :12:35. | :12:41. | |
that has disappeared. We know very little of the technology and we | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
certainly have no examples of it. UB122 was launched in March 191 , | :12:49. | :12:53. | |
her crew of three officers `nd 1 men were among the elite of the | :12:54. | :13:02. | |
Imperial German Navy. They would have had everything they nedded on | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
board. They had four torpedoes on the bowels, one on the back, but | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
they're so that if anybody came chasing them they could shoot them. | :13:12. | :13:21. | |
The dark tunnel of the hull was where they ate, slept and worked. | :13:22. | :13:36. | |
Sometimes hunters, sometimes hunted. You can see it stretched out in | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
front of you and you can get a feel of what it might have been like to | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
be on board a U`boat and work under the sea, surrounded by all of this | :13:44. | :13:50. | |
metal. You are very close to people, you are constantly touching another | :13:51. | :13:53. | |
person. There would not havd been enough sleeping arrangements and it | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
was generally the first person to find a good spot, that was xour spot | :13:58. | :14:03. | |
for the rest of the voyage. She d never sank anything. UB122 was among | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
lines of U`boats which surrdndered in Harwich. Dozens like her were | :14:10. | :14:11. | |
bought to the Medway to the broken up. Equipment, metals, wires, | :14:12. | :14:25. | |
everything was stripped for cash. Nobody is really sure why UB122 was | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
left intact. 170 boats were surrendered. Diesel engines could | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
generate electricity. In fact, I think what happened to this | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
submarine you are looking at is that the engines would have been removed | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
from the hull and reused in an industrial capacity. I think the one | :14:46. | :14:51. | |
on the Medway only survives because of its position and the fairly | :14:52. | :14:59. | |
dangerous mudflats around the. Just getting access to the wreck would | :15:00. | :15:03. | |
have been difficult. He the archivist at the Gosport Museum and | :15:04. | :15:06. | |
keeps a personal collection of postcards. Stereo viewers, they were | :15:07. | :15:14. | |
very popular. The sinister notoriety of U`boats earned them popular | :15:15. | :15:18. | |
appeal. When you lock yoursdlf, you look at the image in 3D. His | :15:19. | :15:24. | |
personal collection of postcards illustrate how U`boats were | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
portrayed in their day. Surrendered fleet of murderous to U`boats. | :15:29. | :15:37. | |
Because our mysterious U`bo`t inspire an expensive rescue as a | :15:38. | :15:43. | |
modern day tourist attraction? The U`boat is just a short boat ride | :15:44. | :15:47. | |
away from Chatham dockyard, famous, of course, for building warships and | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
submarines in both world wars. They have already got a Cold War | :15:53. | :15:55. | |
submarine here. Surely a U`boat will have them jumping for joy? There is | :15:56. | :16:02. | |
nothing wrong with it, per se. It does not fall within our objectives | :16:03. | :16:05. | |
so we are not legally allowdd to fund it. Secondly, we have ` | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
submarine and we don't have the space for another one. This is HMS | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
Ocelot, the last submarine to be built in Chatham in 1960. There is | :16:15. | :16:22. | |
something very special about her, she is complete. We are standing in | :16:23. | :16:26. | |
the control room and we can look through the periscope, we c`n see | :16:27. | :16:30. | |
what it was like to serve in hair and work in her. Ships without their | :16:31. | :16:36. | |
crew are dead ships. They are difficult to interpret. It's | :16:37. | :16:40. | |
actually all about the people's stories. Sadly, the German submarine | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
in the marshes has lost most of the things that really made her | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
interesting. Some people were amazed when the RAF Museum brought the | :16:52. | :16:57. | |
world's last Dornier 17 bomber back from the dead. A German plane from | :16:58. | :17:01. | |
World War II, she was lifted from the sea bed off Kent in a | :17:02. | :17:05. | |
multi`million pound plan to bring her story back to life. Not so for | :17:06. | :17:11. | |
Medway's U`boat. She remains so near, but so far. I can't sde that | :17:12. | :17:18. | |
anybody would come up with the money to do it. It's going to be | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
incredibly difficult. For now, this is a hidden history, a Great War | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
curiosity, waiting for someone with an imagination as deep and rich as | :17:30. | :17:32. | |
their pockets would have to be to bring the last war U`boat b`ck to | :17:33. | :17:33. | |
the shore. You might expect a hospice to be a | :17:34. | :17:45. | |
sad and depressing place, where people only go for the last few days | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
of life. But for many, the experience of a hospice can be a | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
positive and uplifting one, which is why the people who work there say | :17:55. | :17:58. | |
death is a subject none of ts should be afraid to talk about. | :17:59. | :18:07. | |
This is the Pilgrims Hospicd in Canterbury. It is a place ftll of | :18:08. | :18:15. | |
love, life and loss. Here comes my favourite! We spent a week here | :18:16. | :18:24. | |
filming with patients and staff I was convinced it was a placd of | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
death, you come in, you die and go out in a box. But it's not, it some | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
which more than that. It is care and love. It is not just the illness | :18:33. | :18:38. | |
they have come to us with, ht's about their whole being, thdir | :18:39. | :18:41. | |
psychological well`being, their physical well`being. It extdnds and | :18:42. | :18:49. | |
includes their family. Gone out to get you a Chinese? The Cantdrbury | :18:50. | :18:52. | |
site is run by one of the l`rgest hospice charities in the cotntry. | :18:53. | :18:58. | |
They have two other sites in Thanet and Ashford. Eleanor true I'm really | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
happy here. Well some of thd costs are covered by the NHS, most of the | :19:04. | :19:09. | |
income comes from donations and fundraising. Many patients have | :19:10. | :19:15. | |
moved into what is known as the palliative stage of their illness. | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
Claire Butler is the clinic`l director of Pilgrims Hospicd. Most | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
people are familiar with hospices as places where people quite commonly | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
come to die. Palliative card has a broader approach. It's lookhng at | :19:33. | :19:35. | |
all the issues people might be dealing with, but it is centred | :19:36. | :19:38. | |
around the care right at thd end of life, in the last few weeks, months | :19:39. | :19:41. | |
or perhaps year or two life, when they have an underlying illness that | :19:42. | :19:46. | |
cannot be cured. Then the focus shifts and that is what palliative | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
care is about. It shifts to quality of life, getting the best ott of the | :19:52. | :19:57. | |
life that is there. Not every patient at the hospice has come to | :19:58. | :20:00. | |
see out their final days. Some have come in for a period of respite care | :20:01. | :20:12. | |
before returning home. Mary Satchell`Wall has a rare cancer of | :20:13. | :20:16. | |
the duodenum. Before I came, I had this fear of what hospices were | :20:17. | :20:22. | |
going to be like. I had this idea of this grey building, everybody inside | :20:23. | :20:27. | |
being depressed and unhappy. I came in here and the first thing I saw | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
was a table full of flowers and then these coloured rugs, the garden It | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
was like it was a completelx new world that I didn't notice did. But | :20:40. | :20:48. | |
all of these things have cole you down and bring you back to | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
normality. OK, you can't have normality, but at least bring you | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
back, which is what I think the hospice did. This is 41`year`old | :20:57. | :21:04. | |
Mike Radford. His wife Vickh and two children, Molly and Florencd, visit | :21:05. | :21:07. | |
him most days. Last March, he was diagnosed with an aggressivd rangy | :21:08. | :21:12. | |
man was told at best he had two years to live. Life kind of fell | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
apart for a little bit. It just feels really unreal. Like this can't | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
really be happening to us. He's a good man. Those sort of questions, | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
he's a good man, why does this happen to good people? We are going | :21:27. | :21:30. | |
to fight it. We went through a period of believing we are | :21:31. | :21:34. | |
absolutely going to fight it. But there was no chance of that, it was | :21:35. | :21:40. | |
devastating, really. Lovely, that is lovely. Left hand and right hand? | :21:41. | :21:47. | |
What they have enabled me to do is spend more quality time with my | :21:48. | :21:54. | |
family. I you going to practice that song? Ward sister Sandra Waters has | :21:55. | :21:59. | |
been caring for people in the late stage of their illness for 03 years. | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
They have perhaps been told they are getting no more treatment, or they | :22:05. | :22:07. | |
are in the terminal phase of their illness. During that period, you | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
need to encourage them to still live every day like they have bedn. You | :22:12. | :22:21. | |
have to go on. You see us l`ughing and joking, but that is part of it. | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
We not being disrespectful, it is just that today is today, tomorrow | :22:29. | :22:38. | |
is tomorrow like normal. Most of the hospice workers carried out in the | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
community. Some patients ard cared for at home, others go to ottreach | :22:43. | :22:46. | |
centres across East Kent. Some drop into the day centre at Cantdrbury. | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
When I was diagnosed with jtst palliative care, I fell apart. I | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
thought, this is the end. Of course, it wasn't, because that was | :22:58. | :23:04. | |
four years ago. It's a bit like a jigsaw puzzle, really. I fell into | :23:05. | :23:11. | |
all sorts of different bits and then coming to the hospice has rdbuilt | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
me. It is something for my family to have, give them some of the happy | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
memories of my life. The kind of support you get here, which most | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
people don't know about, thdy don't understand that a hospice is not a | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
place where people go to did, necessarily. Yes, people do pass | :23:32. | :23:40. | |
away. But you come here for all kinds of classes, courses. Xou don't | :23:41. | :23:49. | |
like the details either? Cancer is something you think is never going | :23:50. | :23:52. | |
to affect you. When Mike was diagnosed, everybody said, well so | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
and so have a brain she, or breast cancer. Cancer has always bden | :24:00. | :24:04. | |
around in my life, but never as close as it is now, with Trdvor that | :24:05. | :24:11. | |
Schumacher, which is what hd meant him. `` Trevor the tumour. Trevor, | :24:12. | :24:22. | |
we were told, was squatting there from the end of March. Trevor, the | :24:23. | :24:26. | |
name we gave him, if he is going to be with us for a while, part of the | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
family, but not really a wanted piece of the family, we shotld give | :24:31. | :24:34. | |
him a name so we can keep track of what he up to. People go, who is | :24:35. | :24:42. | |
Trevor, then? We go, Trevor the tumour. He has become part of the | :24:43. | :24:48. | |
family, in an unwanted way. We have tried to evict him. It helps for our | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
daughters. They know that the thing in daddy's head is Trevor. Our | :24:53. | :24:56. | |
oldest daughter is only thrde, we have had the conversation about | :24:57. | :25:02. | |
Trevor, his real name is cancer they have tried to make him better. | :25:03. | :25:07. | |
That is the worst experiencd I have had in my life. Most people's first | :25:08. | :25:11. | |
experiences losing a goldfish, a cat, or a dog. But to be told that | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
have is going to go to heavdn, he's not going to be there, it w`s just | :25:16. | :25:25. | |
the look on her face that... I don't want to see again, really. Demand | :25:26. | :25:32. | |
for hospice care is growing fast. We have an ageing population and the | :25:33. | :25:35. | |
number of people over 65 is expected to double in the next 20 ye`rs. More | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
people are living for longer and with more complex conditions. Do you | :25:40. | :25:46. | |
worry about how this movement, where this movement will be in 20 or 0 | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
years time? I don't worry, because I think the movement arose out of such | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
a passion for this kind of care I think that still exist is for a lot | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
of people. I think the need is going to grow. I think as a society I hope | :26:00. | :26:06. | |
that we will think more hondstly about death and dying. 100 xears | :26:07. | :26:10. | |
ago, we would not be having this conversation. Everybody would know | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
what it was like when somebody died. Everybody would have lost somebody | :26:14. | :26:17. | |
close to them. It's a huge change that has happened in such a short | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
time that society has not adapted to. Now we can almost sort of hide | :26:22. | :26:24. | |
death and dying away. Just as we were born, at sole point | :26:25. | :26:37. | |
on our journey we are going to die. For some people this is much shorter | :26:38. | :26:40. | |
than others. But I don't thhnk there's anything to be frightened | :26:41. | :26:44. | |
of. It makes you change your whole approach to life. What was hmportant | :26:45. | :26:51. | |
before, like possessions, whatever, has lost its place. What is | :26:52. | :26:59. | |
important now as friends and family. You can't take it with you. I've got | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
his two beautiful daughters to make sure they grow up happy and knowing | :27:06. | :27:14. | |
how precious life is, knowing how wonderful their dad is becatse he is | :27:15. | :27:20. | |
such a good bloke. I know pdople probably say, well they havd never | :27:21. | :27:22. | |
done anything to deserve it, but he has genuinely never done anxthing | :27:23. | :27:28. | |
that deserves not to see his girls grow up and share our lives | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
together, really. It is a privilege to work with the people that we do, | :27:34. | :27:37. | |
as a team, and also to look after the patients and their families I | :27:38. | :27:43. | |
think we meet people that are very, very vulnerable at that timd in | :27:44. | :27:46. | |
their lives. They give us a lot of trust and I hope that we do the very | :27:47. | :27:54. | |
best for them on their journey. I was just going to say it was a | :27:55. | :27:56. | |
little place in paradise. Now, if you want any more | :27:57. | :28:10. | |
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helping triple killer Joanna Dennehy. Gary Stretch was found | :29:25. | :29:26. | |
guilty of one count of attempted murder. Leslie Leyton was convicted | :29:27. | :29:29. | |
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linked to another death. Police in Cardiff are investigating reports a | :29:33. | :29:35. | |
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inside. That's what MPs have voted for in England tonight. Many health | :29:41. | :29:44. | |
experts support it, but critics say it's unenforceable. Scary moments | :29:45. | :29:46. | |
for Davina McCall. She collapsed after swimming Lake Windemere for | :29:47. | :29:48. | |
Sport Relief. She was carried from the water, but apparently made a | :29:49. | :29:50. | |
speedy recovery. | :29:51. | :30:03. |