23/10/2017 Inside Out South East

I want to know why you're selling stolen passports.

So, how will it affect this year's students?

They are learning practical skills of

nursing in our hospital, that means that they are paid for the privilege

And I promise we will meet the Muslims Scouts of

We formed a Muslim Scout group because we are then able

to cater for their religious and cultural needs.

I'm Natalie Graham with untold stories closer to home

Hello and welcome to the programme which this week comes

First tonight, what you look for

Well, Jonathan Gibson has been sniffing around here in

Chatham as he investigates one online site where the criminals

are looking for more than just a bargain.

As an investigative journalist it's sometimes easier to work

When people aren't watching what you're doing!

If you're looking for something illegal it's the "go to"

part of the internet that's hidden from prying eyes.

The place where criminals use encrypted websites and virtual

You don't need to bother with all that, mate?!

Shouldn't you be getting on with the...

It was set up in America by a guy called Craig.

It's a website where people buy and sell

Just say where you live and get started but lots of the stuff

on Craigslist won't be in the buy and sell section of your local

The kind of cigs you'd probably buy from some dodgy geezer outside

a pub, or in this case a supermarket car park.

So are they knocked off then or are they...

No, no, no so they're old packaging but they can't resell

he says his supplier's someone else on Craigslist!

I've seen some crazy stuff on Craigslist.

That's why I've come to another car park ready for another dodgy deal.

And that's why his tobacco is just a third of the price

But there is a difference because counterfeit goods are among

the things Craigslist says you're not supposed to sell on its website.

It's as easy to find marijuana on Craigslist,

And you might need a seat because what I'm buying next

I'm on a Derby estate to meet a dealer selling

Turns out, as street cocaine goes, it's pretty pure stuff.

I'm shocked, I'm shocked what's there because it's not difficult

for the internet companies to put elements onto their websites

and they should be policing it and taking it down.

But if you have made money from crime you won't want

So what you need is someone to hide it -

But where would I find someone to do that?

On a street corner, I'm meeting Stacey.

She's offering her bank account on Craigslist to anyone

So you know it's kind of dodgy money?

But we are walking into the bank to pay in what I've told her

She'll charge me a fee to get it back and there are plenty of people

on Craigslist offering to do the same thing, sometimes

But if you've sent your money overseas

Well, what you need is a new identity, or

And I know just the place you can get it!

Craigslist, the place where I can find a

And there are plenty more where that came from.

I've known some stories where it's taken people

back again after it's been completely trashed by people

who have stolen their identities but it will allow them

to get on and commit other crimes and that's why they're doing it.

And it's not just about selling stuff.

This advert's looking for postmen in the South East

to steal the letters they're supposed to be delivering.

It's bank cards, cheques, lots of different things.

On Craigslist there's also disorganised crime.

This guy wants someone to pass his driving theory test for him.

So what's the deal, mate, I go in, take it.

If you pass it I give you ?50 for it.

But for fifty quid it's not that black and white ?

for a start he's black and I'm white and someone's going to notice.

When I later revealed I'm a journalist

In fact when we asked it for an interview this

I think whilst they're making money and nobody is asking them or forcing

You'll find selling sites like this sticking their head

No wonder criminals can carry on regardless

? well, unless they're really selling to a journalist.

I'd like to know, mate, why you're offering to sell.

Yeah, oh, my God, my mother's going to kill me.

But he's not the only one thinking about his relatives.

I'm trying to make money for my family.

Take a good look at my cocaine dealer

The thing is I work for the BBC and we're trying to find out, mate,

Well, he wasn't hanging about, was he?

I'm trying to find out why you're willing to launder money for people?

You knew it was risky because we just had that

Just like my passport thief in Chatham.

I'm not buying a passport off you because I work for the BBC.

Why are you selling stolen passports, mate,

Why are you selling stolen passports?

Well, he wasn't hanging around was he?

The amount of organised crime that is sitting behind

everything you've shown there is frightening and it's

critical I think that the police force or the law enforcement

agencies force the likes of Craigslist to do

When we asked to interview a minister all we got

was a Home Office statement saying it's...

Well, we've kind of done that for them already.

So maybe it's time the government forced websites like Craigslist

Coming up on Inside Out we meet the Muslim

Big hearts, big arms, and it's about including

people in the community from all sorts of different backgrounds

To see so many Muslim scouts growing is wonderful.

Now, this month new student nurses have been

starting their courses but one thing's different this year.

So, what difference will it make to the

It's the start of a busy academic year at Canterbury Christ Church

Until August this year many students on courses like nursing

That was funded by the Department of Health.

They didn't take out alone and they didn't have pay for their

tuition but they were also allowed a small bursary to actually help

We've come out as a body of junior doctors

in favour of our nursing colleagues because we really see this as a time

the NHS health care staff need to unite and stand together.

Now, if you want to study nursing, midwifery

or occupational therapy you're treated exactly like any

You have to go through the same system of fees and loans

as if you were studying English

Recently we've seen some worrying headlines about staff shortages

For the first time on record we've seen more nurses leaving

the profession than joining and with the number nurses

starting training down this autumn, The Royal College of Nursing

says we should be helping and not hindering people who want to train.

Student nurses spend at least 50% of their time in practice,

so as part of their education they are learning the skills, practical

skills of nursing in our hospitals, in our communities, our care homes

That means that they are paying for the privilege of working in our NHS

The average age of a student nurse is 29

That means they are likely to have gained much more life

experience before starting the course.

About five or six years ago my dad became terminally ill.

I've got some photos of me and my dad.

That one is obviously me when I was a baby.

That one's my dad when he took me on my first-ever holiday

He decided it was a good idea to dress up as Minnie Mouse.

This one here, me and my dad, I think it was

I'm sure I was trained to pinch his beer.

This one here is the last photo I have of him.

Emily lost her father earlier this year after a long illness.

My grandma woke up and found my dad on the sofa.

He'd just been released from hospital on the Friday.

While looking after him she discovered a hidden talent.

Because of looking after my dad and everything that we

went through with him I realised I was good at what I did and I was

And I could relate to what they were going through.

It made me realise that I wanted to be a nurse.

Emily had dreams of starting on a nursing degree in Kent

this Autumn, but says she doesn't want to be saddled with huge debts

I found out that they were cutting these

bursaries and it was going to be really hard for me to train to do

that job and if I needed to, I would have to pay for it.

And quickly realised I didn't have anybody who

could help me do that and I couldn't afford to leave work to study.

I don't live with family. I can't live with family.

And I've got all my bills and everything that are associated

So, today I can tell you that will increase the number of

Earlier this month at the Conservative Party Conference.

The Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt stood by the Government's decision

We are backing the biggest expansion of

nurse training in the history of the NHS.

The thinking behind these plans is to enable universities to create

extra training places and to provide students with more financial support

Well, we did ask the Department of Health for an interview.

Our changes to student funding have allowed for the biggest

increase in nurse degree places in the history of the NHS ? 15,000

extra home-grown nurses will be training in the NHS by 2020.

But the RCN says the Government hasn't thought about the students

who don't want to take out a loan to cover the cost of their degree.

We are not attracting those people in who don't

And nursing is a very specific thing.

It is a profession that you need to be

It is not just about having the right grade of A-level.

But the government has introduced alternative routes

into the profession, such as Nursing Apprenticeships

but the RCN says this is just a cost-cutting exercise.

Whilst apprenticeships are another model and we got nothing against

apprenticeships it is merely shifting the cost to the employers

which is our hospitals and the rest of the NHS.

In fact, there is an argument that the current method of

training as a nurse is already an apprenticeship model.

Canterbury Christ Church University is the biggest public service

provider in the South East, they provide our local

The actual amount of money available to

students from September 17 is 25% extra over and above what the

students will need from the NHS bursary scheme.

So, we see this as a really positive way to support

Though application numbers were down this year Debra

This is reflecting what happened several years ago when fees

were injured used for the wider student population.

History tells is that, actually, over time we will actually

In our university, we are planning to increase our

student numbers over the next five years.

So I'm feeling very positive about this going forward.

Training nurses and other healthcare professionals takes time and money.

With patient demand growing each year.

They're resources the NHS doesn't have much of.

So let's hope the new plans do work and people like Emily can find a way

He's my driving force for wanting to be a

They are known for their leather woggles, their bracing outdoor

activities and for always being prepared.

But one particular Scout group is unique in the south-east.

Scouting is all about adventure, challenges and reaching new heights.

But these are just any old Scouts, they are Muslim scouts and they are

making history as the first and only Muslim Scout

I like it because I get to learn new life skills.

But how is a Muslim Scout group different from any other?

The Scouting movement was set up over a hundred years ago by

He was the son of an Anglican priest.

At the time England was an overwhelmingly Christian country,

so he designed the swearing in ceremony to pledge

Obviously for this group it's going to be different.

OK, today were going to invest Zara into the Misbah Scouts.

Today Zara is being invested ? which is the technical term

I, I promise to do my best, to my duty to Allah

and to the country in which I live,...

At the start of each meeting the children say a prayer to Allah

OK, Mohammed, would you like to come and do the flag, please?

I like raising the flag, it's just nice to raise a flag.

I like coming to cubs cos you learn many new skills and there

are thousands of badges you can accomplish.

It's rite of passage that might not have been possible without this

scout group and now Zara's in she doesn't want to leave.

I like Cubs a lot and it makes me like I want to stay.

He is the leader, but it's also helped realise

His parents wouldn't let him join the scouts because they didn't

The reason why I formed the Muslim Scouts was because the parents

weren't aware of scouting, and I wanted the children to benefit

from all the things scouting brings, so I formed it and we are then able

to cater for their religious and their cultural needs,

which a normal group might not be able to do.

Of course, anyone of any faith is welcome to join this

The children have been doing a nature badge it's a standard scout

activity that also helps them learn about their faith.

It tells the children we need to look after the environment,

need to protect the wildlife and care for the earth

and the resources and Islam tells us that we are custodians of this

planet, it's not ours and we need to look after it,

so there's that link back to Islam, but otherwise the activity

is exactly the same as any other group would run.

Shahid is a teacher and one of the proud parents

He never got the chance to be in the Scouts.

He didn't want his daughter Isa to miss out.

Why do you think your parents were reluctant

I think primarily they just didn't know anything about it.

I think they felt it was perhaps something Muslims didn't do.

So they didn't want to find out because they just

had no real concept of what it was about.

And Isa doesn't feel like she's missing out on anything.

I like coming here because there are fun activities and you get

Scouting is popular all over the world and getting young British

Muslims involved was one of the key reasons this group was founded.

And the core values of these scouts aren't really different to that

They provide such a diverse range of skills.

to emotional skills, creative skills, survival skills,

communication skills, it gives them confidence

and boosts their confidence and their self-esteem,

and it pushes them out of their comfort zone.

The scouts have been evolving to reflect modern-day Britain.

Today as well as Muslim scouts there are Catholic scouts, Jewish

Girls were only allowed to join in 1991.

And since then it's become very popular with them.

The group here pretty much mirrors scouting

nationally ? there are seven girls who have joined the group

In the UK, there are more girls joining the Scouts

So what do our Muslim girl scouts get out of it?

I like it because they come up with really fun ideas

I've got 18 badges. It builds my confidence and I learn new things.

Saliha Nazir Nazir is a young professional mum.

Her two daughters come here, she says it's important to help them

So what do your girls get out of coming here then?

This group is an opportunity for the girls to break free

of the stereotypes that the society imposes on them of being able to do

certain things and not being able to do certain things.

They can do all the things that the boys are doing

and that the muslim community is supportive of that.

This way they are able to feel confident

and know that the world is their oyster.

It's a big day on the scouting calendar.

Scout groups from 35 countries around the world are meeting

for their big, fun get together known as a jamboree and I'm

about to meet perhaps the most famous scout of all ?

We are worldwide family with big wide arms and hearts welcoming

everybody in. It's what we're really proud of. To see so many Muslim

Scout 's growing is wonderful. Here we have 35 different countries

represented. All different backgrounds, race, and I love that.

Where you from? From Wales. And while they are at the jamboree

the children take part We tied the French -- friendship not

and we are going to do that today. One at a time. How old are you? Ten.

Soon it's time for the grand ceremony the welsh scouts are ready

is about to become a fully-fledged Scout.

You are an official member. She looking forward to exciting

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