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Hello and welcome to Inside Out Southwest. Stories from where you | 0:00:00 | 0:00:03 | |
live. Tonight, we are on patrol in | 0:00:03 | 0:00:09 | |
Torquay with the emergency service that is powered by prayer. The day | 0:00:09 | 0:00:14 | |
you are not shocked by what you see, you should stop doing it. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:23 | |
Also tonight, the south-west victims of internet bullying. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
I got home that night and it was all over Facebook, she's a Taxi, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
she is dirty, she is not washed. And can David Stafford master a | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
traditional craft in north Devon? This is not going to be funny. I am | 0:00:35 | 0:00:39 | |
really going to do it. I am Sam Smith and this is Inside | 0:00:39 | 0:00:49 | |
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They're an alternative emergency service equipped with prayer, and | 0:00:52 | 0:00:56 | |
some pink flip flops. Inside Out spent the weekend in Torquay with | 0:00:56 | 0:01:06 | |
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This is a new world tonight. Lord, we go out in your name. We are | 0:01:15 | 0:01:25 | |
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doing work that has never been done Father, as we work to help the | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
different agencies in the community - the police, the council, the | 0:01:35 | 0:01:45 | |
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We are there to get outside the four walls of the Church and put | 0:02:01 | 0:02:06 | |
our faith into practice. And if we can make somebody's life or their | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
night safer and ensure that they get home safely, albeit in an | 0:02:09 | 0:02:18 | |
Friday night and a new mission for Ros Ede and her team - opening the | 0:02:18 | 0:02:24 | |
public toilets at night for the first time. That's a good place to | 0:02:24 | 0:02:30 | |
put the tip box as well. The shop owners are upset because they use | 0:02:30 | 0:02:39 | |
the doorways of shops to pee. It is very unpleasant. Especially if | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
we're dealing with somebody in a doorway, you do not know what is | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
going on. We asked the Council if we could have the toilets open. The | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
pastors are linked by radio to police, doormen and the town's CCTV | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
operators. Since they started in 2008, they've dealt with more than | 0:02:55 | 0:03:03 | |
2,000 incidents. We had one woman come up and say thank you for | 0:03:03 | 0:03:10 | |
saving my life. Her husband had left her with two children, one of | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
whom is autistic, and she did not feel as if she could carry on. She | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
came here to finish her life, to get drunk and end it all. But she | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
met her team and somebody sat and talked with her. She came back and | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
thanked us for saving her life. We don't know the consequences of what | 0:03:24 | 0:03:34 | |
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we do. These guys, at this time of night, they came round. Give you | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
coffee to keep you warm. I know they are dealing a lot with young | 0:03:47 | 0:03:57 | |
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drunken people. Where are you going We are local people. It has been | 0:04:15 | 0:04:25 | |
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nice and peaceful. We do have people praying for peace. How are | 0:04:25 | 0:04:34 | |
the toilets? They're fine. The last inspection, they were fine and that | 0:04:34 | 0:04:41 | |
is good news .. I can be like... I can be like a... It's early | 0:04:41 | 0:04:46 | |
Saturday night and the walking wounded are already arriving. Up | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
the street, 18-year-old Ashley is in trouble. He's been in a fight | 0:04:49 | 0:04:56 | |
and has hurt his knee. He's brought back to the safe place a converted | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
van that the pastors park on the harbourside. It's a refuge for | 0:04:59 | 0:05:04 | |
anyone who needs help. It's going to get more painful. I think you | 0:05:04 | 0:05:12 | |
should go home. If it wasn't for these guys, he would still be | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
sitting over there. He would be waiting for an ambulance. Thank God | 0:05:15 | 0:05:25 | |
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these guys are here. Are you going to go home now? I am going to sit | 0:05:29 | 0:05:39 | |
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Now you have nowhere to stay? If the temperature drops to zero, they | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
will take you in. It's about six degrees at the moment. John spent | 0:05:56 | 0:06:06 | |
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last night in a car park. Now he's back on the street. The next | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
casualty is a girl who says she is 18. A lot of people drink too much, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
don't they? It's a safe environment for them to either sober up or get | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
home or get an ambulance. I done it myself when I was younger. Fair | 0:06:26 | 0:06:32 | |
play to them, as long as they don't act too silly and start fights. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:37 | |
Within minutes of having said goodbye, Ashley is back. We pinch | 0:06:37 | 0:06:45 | |
the ears and twist his hair to see if we can get a response. But we | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
were getting no response. Because of that, we have called an | 0:06:48 | 0:06:53 | |
ambulance. I've got children and grandchildren who I would not want | 0:06:53 | 0:06:58 | |
to see in that position, the position some of these kids are. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
It's good to have somebody out here looking after them. While one team | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
deals with Ashley, the other helps a young man who appears to be the | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
worse for drink. Last year, Torbay had the biggest rise in alcohol | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
related hospital admissions in the south-west. When they're very young, | 0:07:15 | 0:07:24 | |
yes, it distressing. The day you're not shocked by what you're seeing, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:29 | |
you should stop doing it. The pastors' presence seems to have | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
a calming effect on the streets. Since they started, Saturday night | 0:07:34 | 0:07:40 | |
crime in Torquay has fallen by more than 30 per cent. We are not | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
confrontational, we're not trying to enforce any kind of law. We are | 0:07:44 | 0:07:54 | |
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mums and dads, grans and grandads. Thank you so much. Stay safe. | 0:07:54 | 0:08:04 | |
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What shocks you most about what you see? Parents who don't care. Being | 0:08:05 | 0:08:15 | |
a parent myself, I can't understand that. How you can give birth to | 0:08:15 | 0:08:23 | |
your son or daughter and not care. The pastors have become well known | 0:08:23 | 0:08:33 | |
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I'll give you some money for these. If they end up in A&E with a cut | 0:08:38 | 0:08:48 | |
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foot, that costs, I have been told, Back at their prayer base, the | 0:08:54 | 0:09:02 | |
pastors receive a call for help. The young lady outside now. Just | 0:09:02 | 0:09:09 | |
round the corner. It is 2am and a 31 year-old man has been found in a | 0:09:09 | 0:09:17 | |
I'm just going to check your pockets to make sure you have a | 0:09:17 | 0:09:23 | |
wallet. The first thing we have done this evening is called the | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
Street Pastors who normally help us in this sort of situation to free | 0:09:26 | 0:09:34 | |
up some emergency services time. But he is too much in drink to be | 0:09:34 | 0:09:40 | |
of any help. If we can't get him sorted out, the police will take | 0:09:41 | 0:09:50 | |
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matters into their own hands. Try to find out where he's been | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
drinking. They don't like places that continue serving alcohol to | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
people when they have had too much to drink. A little bit cold. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Waiting for the ambulance. He hasn't got anyone at home so we | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
have to call for an ambulance to take care of him. The pastors' | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
shift ends at 4 am. Tying up loose ends. You check yours and we will | 0:10:17 | 0:10:26 | |
check ours. I'm not as young as I was. Some nights, it can be quite | 0:10:26 | 0:10:34 | |
tiring. I think tonight was quite challenging. But we've had a lot of | 0:10:34 | 0:10:44 | |
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good times as well. So it's been worthwhile. Ashley was treated and | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
eventually went home with friends. But two casualties of the night | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
went to hospital. The pastors will probably never know what happened | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
to them, but they are determined to persevere with prayer and practical | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
help. There's no such thing as retirement in the Bible. I've | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
looked for it. It doesn't happen. So as long as we're needed, we'll | 0:11:04 | 0:11:14 | |
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Social networking sites like Facebook can connect you to the | 0:11:34 | 0:11:38 | |
rest of the world, but they can also be a forum for cyber bullying | 0:11:38 | 0:11:48 | |
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which has been linked to the If you know who is doing the | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
bullying, you can probably do something about it. But what if the | 0:11:58 | 0:12:05 | |
abuse is anonymous? We've been investigating. My name is Dawn, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
this is Sarah. We teach young people on safety issues. We are | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
here today to show you what can happen to people who have been | 0:12:12 | 0:12:22 | |
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cyber bullied. An internet safety workshop in Bovey Tracy. And a | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
stark reminder of the dangers of online abuse. Pictures of five | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
young people whose suicides have been linked to so-called cyber | 0:12:33 | 0:12:43 | |
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bullying. It's not like it was in the old days when, if anybody was | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
starting on anybody, it would be face to face, in the classroom or | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
the playground. Cyberbullying is such an easy way to target somebody. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
I don't want to be around the racist comments, seeing people in | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
the town saying, there's that girl. Jade Sarwar was cyber-bullied after | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
being assaulted by a girl in Newton Abbott. I got home that night and | 0:13:10 | 0:13:20 | |
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it was all over Facebook. She called me a Taxi. And because I | 0:13:24 | 0:13:32 | |
didn't reply, she got other people involved. I showed my mum it. I was | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
crying because there was stuff they were saying that I didn't like. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
They were going on about, she's dirty, she doesn't wash, the colour | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
of her skin. Loads of people got involved. There was 19 pages of it. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:49 | |
Jade went to the police. The teenagers who posted the abuse | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
trolling as it's known ended up in court. Magistrates said they were | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
deeply concerned by the cyber- bullying and gave referral orders | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
to the five girls responsible. first, I was nervous about going to | 0:13:58 | 0:14:06 | |
the police. But it was a good thing because they dealt with it | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
straightaway and made a good job of it. If I hadn't gone, I don't know | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
what would have happened now. knew who the bullies were because | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
their postings were on Facebook, which discourages anonymous and | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
abusive postings. But unlike Facebook, there are social | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
networking sites where people are allowed to be faceless. Sites like | 0:14:20 | 0:14:29 | |
Little Gossip. I don't see the point of it. Nobody posts anything | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
nice about anybody on it. It's not like Facebook or Twitter where | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
there are in interaction tools. It is spiteful and pointless really. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
Now studying in France, Bianca Coughlin was in her second year at | 0:14:38 | 0:14:45 | |
Exeter University when she discovered she was on Little Gossip. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
It was referring to my reputation and how promiscuous I had been, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:58 | |
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which I hadn't! It wasn't very flattering. It must have seemed | 0:14:58 | 0:15:02 | |
like a private joke to the people who posted about their friends, but | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
it would not be funny for parents or an employer. In fact it did turn | 0:15:05 | 0:15:15 | |
out to be a joke by one of her friends. But one that didn't seem | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
so funny when that friend tried to delete the post. That's when she | 0:15:18 | 0:15:28 | |
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said, I can't. That's when I realised the dangers of this site | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
because no one has the power to remove it. The posting was | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
eventually removed but Little Gossip, which operates in more than | 0:15:39 | 0:15:47 | |
50 countries, is still rife with abuse posted by anonymous users. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
I've come to London to meet the young entrepreneur from Taunton who | 0:15:50 | 0:16:00 | |
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created the site in 2010. discovered a hit TV series called | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Gossip Girl which is based in America. There is also a Facebook | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
group called Gossip Girl Taunton. I saw lots of gossip from nights | 0:16:07 | 0:16:15 | |
before, of people going out. It was all light hearted, funny banter. I | 0:16:15 | 0:16:25 | |
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thought it was an amazing idea. Ted had unleashed something big. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:33 | |
The site quickly snowballed out of control. We had 33,000 hits in the | 0:16:33 | 0:16:42 | |
first hour. We had more hits than Facebook did. The servers crashed. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:47 | |
It was impossible to police, just myself. Ted was soon swamped with | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
complaints. If you have 60,000 pieces of gossip and 10 per cent of | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
them are genuinely malicious, that is 6000 pieces of gossip which I | 0:16:57 | 0:17:06 | |
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have to try and find and delete. It is a huge amount of work. After | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
just four days, Ted sold the site for, he says, $50. I didn't sell it | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
for financial gain. I sold it to get rid of it. Why did you not just | 0:17:15 | 0:17:25 | |
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close it down? That was a mistake and I am sorry for that. I set up | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
the site with good intentions and I should have just shut it down when | 0:17:31 | 0:17:37 | |
I knew that it was spiralling out of control. Little Gossip goes on | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
under its new owners. The business that Ted ahead set up as a harmless | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
bit of fun has turned into a global Internet phenomenon, but one with | 0:17:44 | 0:17:54 | |
It's the anonymity allowed on sites like Little Gossip that experts say | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
makes them harder to police. If you are a victim of that online abuse, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
it is very difficult to get recourse because you do not know | 0:18:02 | 0:18:12 | |
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who it is that's making those comments. It's not just young | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
people who are being targeted. Rate My Teacher features praise, but | 0:18:19 | 0:18:29 | |
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also abuse about staff at schools and colleges across the world. We | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
spoke to a south-west teacher who says he has been bullied on Rate My | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Teacher for 14 months. We've disguised his identity. It's been a | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
really tough time. I am leaving the teaching profession because of it. | 0:18:41 | 0:18:44 | |
It was almost on a daily basis that comments were being left about me. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
In the end, there were over 200, which, quite frankly, I thought | 0:18:47 | 0:18:55 | |
appalling. I felt helpless to do anything about it. I am sure it | 0:18:55 | 0:19:03 | |
affected my performance in the classroom. Action against sites | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
like Little Gossip and Rate My Teacher is made harder by the fact | 0:19:06 | 0:19:15 | |
that they appear to operate out of Getting sites closed down is | 0:19:15 | 0:19:23 | |
virtually impossible. Many sites are hosted, not in the UK, but in | 0:19:23 | 0:19:28 | |
the US. Free-speech is in the US constitution, people have a right | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
to say what they want to say, and from the UK perspective, we are not | 0:19:32 | 0:19:42 | |
We tried to contact Little Gossip to ask why they don't remove | 0:19:42 | 0:19:52 | |
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abusive comments, but our email racist abuse she suffered. It took | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
me a while to get over it all. About 18 months ago now. I haven't | 0:20:00 | 0:20:10 | |
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heard anything since. But it was Jade's story shows that the courts | 0:20:17 | 0:20:26 | |
can bring online bullies to book, Governments appear unable or | 0:20:26 | 0:20:31 | |
unwilling to tackle the operators of sites, which seem to tolerate | 0:20:31 | 0:20:41 | |
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There's a website you can go to for advice and report abuse: These | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
kilns are an impressive clue to the fact that the south once had a | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
pottery industry. One man is keeping that tradition alive making | 0:21:02 | 0:21:12 | |
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beautiful jugs that have buyers This is North Devon. Now a couple | 0:21:23 | 0:21:29 | |
of hundred years ago this place was pottery central all down here were | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Potteries and the air would have been thick with the smoke from | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
their kilns. These days there's just a handful of people carrying | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
on that old tradition. One of them lives up the road there, Harry the | 0:21:40 | 0:21:50 | |
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potter. Every day he practises before | 0:21:53 | 0:22:00 | |
getting down to work. Harry. Good This is extraordinary. It's | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
beautiful. Thank you very much. long have you been a potter? | 0:22:04 | 0:22:11 | |
years. 64 years! A long time. a good life. Yes, I love it. You've | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
got all sorts of stuff here, small and large jugs and plates and | 0:22:15 | 0:22:19 | |
dishes and all sorts of stuff. What's your favourite stuff? I have | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
a reputation for making these harvest jugs. These things here? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:30 | |
Yeah. They're a tradition in the area. Going back to the 17th | 0:22:30 | 0:22:34 | |
century. My son is throwing today and he'll demonstrate this. He's a | 0:22:34 | 0:22:40 | |
very fine thrower. You'll see him working. Fantastic. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:45 | |
Watching Nick working is a bit like turning the clock back five | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
centuries. The clay still comes from a quarry nearby. The technique | 0:22:50 | 0:22:59 | |
and shape have stayed more or less the same since the 17 hundreds. The | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
jugs were the potters' contribution to the harvest supper celebrations. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
They take along one of these filled to the brim with local brew, golden | 0:23:07 | 0:23:14 | |
cider. I love throwing. I could sit on that wheel all day and keep | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
going. Unfortunately, you know, I'd fill the place up in a day. I can't | 0:23:18 | 0:23:23 | |
throw all day. But that's my love. That's what I like doing, yeah. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
he does it to the same world class standard as his father, proudly | 0:23:28 | 0:23:34 | |
producing work of incredible quality and beauty. I don't see it | 0:23:34 | 0:23:39 | |
ever becoming a thing that will die out or not be used or not be | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
treated as something that's creative. The classic shape is then | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
prepared for its decoration, using a process that was popular in | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
renaissance Italy, they're dipped in a thrin coating of white clay. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
Into this Harry will scratch out the designs for which he is world | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
famous. At the age of 79 Harry is one of the last potters to keep | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
this tradition going on a commercial basis. He trained as a | 0:24:06 | 0:24:12 | |
fine artist. The jug proz vied the perfect blank canvas. What's this | 0:24:12 | 0:24:19 | |
called? This is the technique called scrufitto. I scrap through | 0:24:19 | 0:24:25 | |
the surface of the white into the brown. The tools look plainfully | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
familiar. They're dental tools. They keep their edge. I used to use | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
bamboo at one time. But I discovered these are much easier to | 0:24:33 | 0:24:37 | |
use. You must need incredible confidence just to go at it. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
get that through doing it. When you've been doing it for 64 years, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:52 | |
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I suppose the knack does come to you! It does. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
The technique can take anything up to a day. I'm going to let Harry | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
get on with it and pop over to the Burton museum to look at | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
traditional jugs. Harvest jugs were originally made by ordinary folk, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
but now examples such as these fetch extraordinary prices, tens of | 0:25:11 | 0:25:16 | |
thousands of pounds. They weren't just made for the locals. Some were | 0:25:16 | 0:25:26 | |
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lends itself to bold design and sometimes poetic messages. "When I | 0:25:31 | 0:25:37 | |
was in my native place, I was a lump of clay and I was digged out | 0:25:37 | 0:25:43 | |
of the earth and brought from thepbs away. But now I am a jug | 0:25:43 | 0:25:48 | |
become through potter's art and skill and now your servant am | 0:25:48 | 0:25:55 | |
become and carry ale I will." There is a tradition with sort of | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
film that it has to end with the presenter having a go at the wheel | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
for comic effect. This isn't going to be fun yip because I'm going to | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
do it. Show me what to do. Take your ball of clay and smack it on | 0:26:07 | 0:26:14 | |
the wheel. Smack it? Yeah. Smack it hard? Yeah. Wet your hands. And the | 0:26:14 | 0:26:23 | |
clay. Very gently and firmly squeeze it into a nice, round shape. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:31 | |
Now then, put your left hand inside, with your fingertips, bring it | 0:26:31 | 0:26:37 | |
right up. Right off at the very top. Is that all right? Very good. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:47 | |
That's perfect. Now draw it up. You mustn't go too fast. It must be an | 0:26:47 | 0:26:57 | |
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even Spiral. Beautiful technique. You have a potter's thumb. Gently. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
There you are, very good. perfect teacher. Thank you very | 0:27:02 | 0:27:12 | |
much Harry. Fantastic. Is this always the moment of truth? | 0:27:12 | 0:27:19 | |
Yes, it is. They seem to have worked. There you are. Wow. This is | 0:27:19 | 0:27:25 | |
naughty post cards. I don't think I can read any of them to a family | 0:27:25 | 0:27:35 | |
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audience. This is made with the Queen's Foot Guards having a bit of | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
a celebration. A bit of a knees up. This is for the Diamond Jubilee. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:49 | |
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That's right. Harry's jugs have now developed something of a fan club. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:58 | |
Buyers from around the world are happy to pay �400 a throw for the | 0:27:58 | 0:28:03 | |
finest examples. But for Harry, it's not just about the money. It's | 0:28:03 | 0:28:08 | |
about something much deeper. would say it was the rhythm, the | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
rhythm of music and the rhythm of working, the rhythm of throwing | 0:28:12 | 0:28:19 | |
pots on the wheel, pulling handles, decorating, it's got to be ridge | 0:28:19 | 0:28:27 |