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The mentally ill teenagers. What happened to be governed's promised | :00:13. | :00:19. | |
to help? They have to start providing for children and for | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
families. Also on the progr`mme get out your vinyl, we are going retro, | :00:25. | :00:30. | |
Cornwall style. In 1966, Cornwall might not have had | :00:31. | :00:37. | |
a penny being, but it was vdry swinging! | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
I am Gemma Woodman, welcome to Inside Out South West. Pennx Lane. | :00:43. | :00:55. | |
Government ministers, doctors, the families affected, all agred that it | :00:56. | :01:00. | |
is a scandal that because of our geography and a shortage of beds, | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
some young people with ment`l health problems have to be treated hundreds | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
of miles from home. Action has long been promised but tonight, to | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
breathe teenagers called Inside Out that nothing has changed. | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
Sascha's three days of home leave are over, | :01:18. | :01:21. | |
and her mum is taking her b`ck to a mental health unit. | :01:22. | :01:23. | |
The unit is in Bridgewater, 150 miles away from their | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
Just getting to the car is difficult. | :01:29. | :01:40. | |
She says long spells of bed rest in hospital have | :01:41. | :01:42. | |
I've been in hospital for about three years and in that | :01:43. | :01:48. | |
time I've only been home for at most two weeks at a time. | :01:49. | :01:57. | |
It's three hours away from the unit and most of the time is spent | :01:58. | :02:02. | |
driving too and from the unht and it doesn't feel like long | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
Mental health can affect anxone at any time and it is disgusting that | :02:06. | :02:24. | |
they are not putting more and at a local level. I want her to be closer | :02:25. | :02:29. | |
so that we can spend more thme together, this does this just makes | :02:30. | :02:30. | |
it too hard. -- this distance. Because there are so few beds | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
for mentally ill children in the South West ? and nond | :02:36. | :02:37. | |
in Cornwall ? teenagers who need hospital care can be sent to units | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
which are hundreds of miles away. They stay there for months, | :02:42. | :02:44. | |
and sometimes years. The NHS ? and the Government ? | :02:45. | :02:46. | |
know it's a problem. Sascha says before she was sent | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
to the unit in Somerset, she was treated at | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
a general hospital. For months she was on an adtlt ward, | :02:57. | :02:58. | |
treated alongside terminallx ill people and patients | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
suffering with dementia. It was a mixed-sex ward | :03:02. | :03:08. | |
and there was a guy who got up and was shouting and swearing | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
using every swearword under the sun He was shouting things like, "You | :03:12. | :03:13. | |
are breaking my wrist." And the same guy went in thd corner | :03:14. | :03:31. | |
of the room and peed... I was really scared that he would | :03:32. | :03:34. | |
come over and start having I did not have any support, I was | :03:35. | :03:47. | |
sat there by myself. When you went missing all this and what wdre you | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
thinking? I was worried that he would have a go at me. Therd were | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
patients around me with cancer and patients around me with cancer and | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
dementia and having blood transfusions and on a few occasions | :04:00. | :04:02. | |
they were all the people th`t had died. It was terrifying. | :04:03. | :04:08. | |
I was on a ward with just women and the youngest one after le | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
was about 40 years older th`n me and one of the women came and sat | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
on the end of my bed and st`rted screaming and shouting at someone | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
And she thought that the end of my bed was a toilet and tried | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
to go to the toilet on the end of my bed. | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
Sascha hopes she'll be back in Cornwall soon. | :04:26. | :04:27. | |
Chloe Hodge hasn't been homd at all for three years. | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
She's been in mental health units all over England. | :04:32. | :04:35. | |
At the moment she's treated in South Wales. | :04:36. | :04:37. | |
Her parents have rented a holiday cottage nearby. | :04:38. | :04:39. | |
Doctors at the clinic have `greed she can stay with them. | :04:40. | :04:45. | |
It's a little taste of the ordinary family stuff Chloe | :04:46. | :04:56. | |
I really miss that and I can't wait to get out of here | :04:57. | :05:03. | |
The family don't know when Chloe will be able to come home. | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
She's lost touch with peopld who were important to her bdfore | :05:08. | :05:10. | |
I miss my friends, my familx, I just want to be around people that | :05:11. | :05:16. | |
I know, which would probablx make me feel more settled. | :05:17. | :05:24. | |
The hospital in South Wales is about 200 miles from home in Cornwall | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
But for Chloe's family, that's one of the shorter journeys | :05:29. | :05:31. | |
On one occasion when she was ill and had to go to hospital, that really | :05:32. | :05:58. | |
brought it home. Do you remdmber that? It was awful. She was in a lot | :05:59. | :06:04. | |
of pain and she was refusing to go because she wanted one of us there. | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
280 miles away. She was in pain and 280 miles away. She was in pain and | :06:11. | :06:13. | |
crying down the end of the phone, it was horrible. | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
There is a plan for a children's unit in Cornwall. | :06:17. | :06:18. | |
Sharon and Steve Cowburn have been fighting for it for years. | :06:19. | :06:20. | |
Ben was just 18 and he went into really inappropriate | :06:21. | :06:23. | |
Their son Ben took his life in an adult hospital. | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
Since then, they've been calpaigning for a unit for teenagers | :06:28. | :06:30. | |
They won the backing of the local health trust, and have a design | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
but so far the NHS hasn't agreed to pay for it. | :06:36. | :06:41. | |
My son died in inappropriatd care in Cornwall and it's nearly six | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
years since this family started knocking on doors and | :06:49. | :06:50. | |
They are trying to represent people who cannot argue their own case | :06:51. | :07:06. | |
because they are any terrible at home. -- in a terrible situ`tion at | :07:07. | :07:14. | |
home. After six years, we should see some | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
progress on this unit which would make so much difference | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
to so many families. I've been to see the ministdr | :07:21. | :07:24. | |
and he says it's not his I've written to the chief executive | :07:25. | :07:29. | |
of NHS England and he says ht's the local commissioners | :07:30. | :07:33. | |
and the local commissioners say it's I've been sent around | :07:34. | :07:35. | |
on a wild-goose chase. So who can stop these | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
children having to travel I went to see the man | :07:40. | :07:41. | |
in charge of mental health services in Cornwall, | :07:42. | :07:44. | |
Phil Confue. We have to work together to get the | :07:45. | :07:56. | |
pressure up the line, letting them know that something is needdd in | :07:57. | :08:00. | |
Cornwall. We have to work whth our partners to make that happen. It is | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
frustrating for us and doubly frustrating for families, especially | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
when they are travelling a long way away and children are not close to | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
them. They are not getting the servers that they want and we must | :08:11. | :08:22. | |
do something about it. Do these families deserve an apology? | :08:23. | :08:24. | |
Definitely. We have been hoping for a long time that something would be | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
within Cornwall. Everyone sdems to want this to happen but we cannot | :08:29. | :08:30. | |
get NHS England to guaranted giving us that unit or not. | :08:31. | :08:33. | |
the distances people have to travel by paying for more inpatient | :08:34. | :08:38. | |
beds and they'll be up and running next year. | :08:39. | :08:46. | |
But they did not tell us whdre those beds would be. | :08:47. | :08:49. | |
While they wait to hear, the families have to leave | :08:50. | :08:51. | |
their children hundreds of miles from home. | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
You be good, OK? We will sed you next time. Thanks. I will t`ke you | :08:55. | :09:05. | |
in now. Marie is dropping off Sasch` too | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
and they're not sure how long it will be before | :09:11. | :09:12. | |
they are together again. She wants to know when she will next | :09:13. | :09:26. | |
be coming back and I have to think about the logistics, the cost, how | :09:27. | :09:29. | |
much time it takes. That is difficult. I wish I could tdll her | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
that I can pop up and see hdr whenever, but the reality as I | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
cannot do that. I think people need to be a lot more aware of it and | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
people have to take responshbility for it. Cornwall, it seems to catch | :09:46. | :09:52. | |
up and it needs to start providing for children and for familids. | :09:53. | :09:56. | |
Because, you know, it is terrible. My worst fear is losing my daughter | :09:57. | :10:03. | |
and the thought that it could be stopped if the right | :10:04. | :10:06. | |
support was there, it It's awful, no parent ever wants | :10:07. | :10:08. | |
to feel like that and for the fact it comes down to funding, | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
I don't know. I do not understand why this is not | :10:14. | :10:20. | |
happening. Marie fears the next stage | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
of Sascha's treatment might If you have a story you would like | :10:24. | :10:44. | |
to share, do drop me an e-m`il at... We would love to hear from xou. Any | :10:45. | :10:52. | |
moment we are going diving off of the Dorset coast looking at sea | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
horses. But firstly we are looking at the rock 'n' roll archivds of | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
Cornwall. It was not all sc`ffold groups. | :11:02. | :11:08. | |
We meet the Cornish musicians who were in at the start | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
of a worldwide super group...50 years ago. | :11:14. | :11:17. | |
Our own former Mod, David Stafford, takes a trip back 50 years to meet | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
When I was younger, so much younger than today - | :11:21. | :11:27. | |
not to mention much thinner ? I could get my leg over no trouble. | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
Lucky for me that Martin, a Mod DJ, is giving me a ride... | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
Cornwall in 1966 may not have had a Carnaby Street or a Penny Lane... | :11:35. | :11:37. | |
The Smokey Joes were one of dozens of schoolboy bands who giggdd | :11:38. | :11:56. | |
all over the county in halls like this one. | :11:57. | :11:58. | |
Gavin Carter was their teenage drummer. | :11:59. | :12:01. | |
We did kind of, we had a co`ch and took people with us. | :12:02. | :12:11. | |
We certainly took a lot of supporters with us. We would turn up | :12:12. | :12:19. | |
to a venue with about 30 people You brought your own audience? Xes, that | :12:20. | :12:21. | |
was welcomed by landlords. They started in 1965 becausd I used | :12:22. | :12:24. | |
to run lots of dances in thhs hall and this lot were talking | :12:25. | :12:30. | |
about it so I said just get on with it, just like that, | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
no equipment or nothing... This is what impresses me, xou were | :12:34. | :12:42. | |
organising the decks. How mtch did you make? | :12:43. | :12:45. | |
Adjusted for inflation that's, like, 210 quid. | :12:46. | :12:48. | |
Before the M4 and M5, getting to the West Country | :12:49. | :12:56. | |
from London was like travelling to Mars, but all the same, | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
big London bands like the Khnks and The Who still made the dffort, | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
and local bands usually muscled in on the action. | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
We got into Plymouth's Guildhall with the blue. So you're supporting | :13:11. | :13:18. | |
big names? That was correct. Keith booked The Birds to play | :13:19. | :13:27. | |
St Austell Church Hall ? not the Mr Tambourine Byrds, | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
this was Ronnie Wood's band years before the Faces or the Stones | :13:32. | :13:34. | |
and they stayed in Portscatho. Mike Grose was just 14 | :13:35. | :13:36. | |
when he became a guitar for hire in local bands, | :13:37. | :13:44. | |
including the Smokey Joes. There were 14 groups | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
in St Austell alone - The year's hottest gig was the Rock | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
and Rhythm contest held Picture the scene in 1966...hordes | :13:52. | :14:02. | |
of fans from St Austell, Redruth, Penzance and Portscatho, wahting | :14:03. | :14:10. | |
to hear their favourite bands. Among the bands playing that | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
night were popular beat combo The Reactions, | :14:17. | :14:18. | |
now The Reaction. Made up of Truro school boys | :14:19. | :14:22. | |
and a 20-year-old butcher's boy lead singer and hair enthushast | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
Roger Brokenshire. Roger started entertaining | :14:27. | :14:28. | |
when he was just ten years old. We used to be in concert parties | :14:29. | :14:54. | |
going round the village halls. The contest was the X Factor, the | :14:55. | :15:05. | |
Pop Idol of its day. They came in their coachloads | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
to support their favourite bands. We were young then. But it was great | :15:11. | :15:48. | |
fun. I am glad that I was p`rt of it. | :15:49. | :15:48. | |
The winners were guaranteed gigs in the best palais des | :15:49. | :15:51. | |
And 50 years ago, that glorhous prize was awarded to The Re`ction. | :15:52. | :16:01. | |
This was the song that won it for us... | :16:02. | :16:12. | |
And it launched the career of the band's drummer... | :16:13. | :16:14. | |
A chap who did ever so well for himself. | :16:15. | :16:23. | |
The band that became Queen had its roots in a band called Smile, | :16:24. | :16:26. | |
featuring guitarist Brian M`y and drummer Roger Taylor. | :16:27. | :16:39. | |
Roger really was very artistic really. | :16:40. | :16:41. | |
Roger Taylor's mum booked Smile for a charity gig. | :16:42. | :16:51. | |
But by showtime the band had changed its name to Queen. | :16:52. | :17:00. | |
27th June 1970 Truro City Hall hosted | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
And Mike was their first bass player. | :17:04. | :17:09. | |
We weren't polished put it that way, our arrangements were a bit naff. | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
The name Queen was chosen by the new singer, Freddie Lercury. | :17:15. | :17:26. | |
Freddie and me joined on the same day. | :17:27. | :17:28. | |
They knew him, wanted to sing and so they chose him. | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
Freddie had a hand in choosing Mike's stage gear. | :17:33. | :17:46. | |
He took me to get some velvet trousers. | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
He told me they would have to be tighter. I could hardly belheve it. | :17:52. | :18:00. | |
He told me they would stretch. He came out and jumped onto thd tube. | :18:01. | :18:06. | |
As I went to sit down, they split from the back, right up my crotch. | :18:07. | :18:13. | |
And there was Freddie Mercury, laughing his head off. | :18:14. | :18:25. | |
The Smokey Joes could have had their moment in the sun | :18:26. | :18:28. | |
too...they were offered a rdcording contract ? but didn't sign. | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
You did not sign? That is correct. You turned it down. Yes, a little | :18:35. | :18:42. | |
bit too cautious. How do yot feel about that now, do you wish you had | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
done? Possibly, yes. We shotld have gone for it. What the hell, let us | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
go for it. But did not. And yet Mike, having put one curiously | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
trousered legs on the ladder to fame, decided to step off and return | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
to Cornwall. I just love behng in Cornwall and it is the qualhty of | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
life in the end. I had playdd for several years and that was dnough. I | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
enjoyed playing but where wd were going was not somewhere I w`nted to | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
go. Roger Brokenshire has never stopped | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
gigging, a stranger to jealousy he is very happy that Roger made the | :19:23. | :19:27. | |
big time. I am so pleased for him. I am pleased that I was part of | :19:28. | :19:32. | |
getting Roger up that ladder. I have had a wonderful time. It was like a | :19:33. | :19:36. | |
horse race, there must be whnners and losers, but we are not losers, I | :19:37. | :19:45. | |
mean, we are keeping the music going. There are many singers at the | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
age of 75 still going. And going, and going, and going. No pl`ns to | :19:50. | :19:59. | |
retire at the moment, I lovd it I love it! | :20:00. | :20:13. | |
They have an almost mythical presence in art, culture | :20:14. | :20:22. | |
and the animal kingdom, so why are seahorses off thd Dorset | :20:23. | :20:24. | |
The jewel in the crown of the Purbeck Hills. | :20:25. | :20:39. | |
It's an Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty with all the protecthon | :20:40. | :20:43. | |
Everything from the low tidd mark upwards is owned and managed | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
by the National Trust but ftrther out to sea it's owned | :20:51. | :20:53. | |
by the Crown Estates and the situation's | :20:54. | :20:55. | |
Beneath the surface of the water there should be an animal that many | :20:56. | :21:04. | |
In 2008 we had 40 individual seahorses here, now we have none, | :21:05. | :21:13. | |
so in effect they're functioning extinct. | :21:14. | :21:14. | |
Neil Garrick-Maidment has bden studying seahorses for 36 ydars | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
diving and monitoring their numbers all around the coast. | :21:18. | :21:24. | |
Everywhere else where we have records of seahorses, | :21:25. | :21:27. | |
the numbers are either stable or have gone up slightly. | :21:28. | :21:29. | |
This is the only site - South Beach in Studland Bay | :21:30. | :21:31. | |
is the only site where they've gone from 40 to zero. | :21:32. | :21:40. | |
Eight years ago, it became hllegal to kill, take or disturb | :21:41. | :21:42. | |
But what isn't protected is the seagrass... | :21:43. | :21:45. | |
the habitat of the seahorse where they shelter, breed and feed. | :21:46. | :21:47. | |
Here in Studland, it's the seagrass that's giving Neil sleepless nights. | :21:48. | :21:52. | |
We never came here to study the seagrass, we came | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
to study the seahorses, but it soon became evident | :21:56. | :21:58. | |
that the seagrass was fragmdnting and starting to fall apart. | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
What, in your opinion, is the reason for this happdning? | :22:02. | :22:03. | |
The mooring chains have acttally fragmented the seagrass bed | :22:04. | :22:14. | |
Mooring chains are fixed to the seabed and run | :22:15. | :22:17. | |
Ariel photos show that the seagrass bed is expanding but Neil s`ys that | :22:18. | :22:22. | |
with holes in it like Swiss cheese, there's still a problem. | :22:23. | :22:28. | |
There's plenty of seagrass out there, why don't the seahorses move | :22:29. | :22:30. | |
The seahorses require the whole seagrass bed. | :22:31. | :22:33. | |
They need to be able to movd through seagrass to be able to get | :22:34. | :22:37. | |
Time for me to put my head under water. | :22:38. | :22:40. | |
I was here seven years ago and I was mesmerised | :22:41. | :22:42. | |
by the seahorse I found livhng in the seagrass here. | :22:43. | :22:44. | |
Fingers crossed I see another today... | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
So that was really different, wasn't it? | :22:49. | :23:23. | |
It's all down to this mooring, so diving around that, | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
where that chain has scoured the sea floor | :23:27. | :23:28. | |
and there is no grass there at all, is there? | :23:29. | :23:31. | |
A few years ago the Governmdnt rolled out Marine Conservathon Zones | :23:32. | :23:34. | |
to protect marine life in the same way wildlife is protected on land. | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
But even though Studland Bax was proposed, it didn't | :23:41. | :23:42. | |
An MCZ here might mean that the seagrass is given protection. | :23:43. | :23:48. | |
This is an eco-friendly mooring and it's basically a strong | :23:49. | :23:55. | |
And it hangs above the seagrass rather than dragging on the seabed | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
And these could become mand`tory if Studland is designated | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
The Royal Yachting Associathon said they would love to endorse dco | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
moorings but they've not yet been proven to work here in Studland Bay. | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
Studies here have shown that they almost overstretch | :24:15. | :24:16. | |
The problem here is there's been a lot of studies and none of them | :24:17. | :24:28. | |
have concluded with a viabld technically feasible and | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
This ecomooring costs ?1,800 to buy and install. | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
The manufacturer tells us that the wrong size was tested | :24:38. | :24:39. | |
in Studland and the moorings of the correct size in similar bays | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
Nick Warner has lived in Sttdland most of his life and doesn't believe | :24:43. | :24:55. | |
In fact, he goes further and believes that a Marine | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
Conservation Zone isn't what's needed here either. | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
There's no need to protect Studland Bay by | :25:03. | :25:04. | |
It's going to disrupt everybody s enjoyment. | :25:05. | :25:10. | |
Well, I believe there is a very precious animal out there... | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
And by offering it some form of protection... | :25:15. | :25:18. | |
It doesn't need protecting, it's protected already! | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
Ok, so if you see numbers declining... | :25:22. | :25:22. | |
Well, because there's a lot of statistics. | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
Because you read it on the Seahorse Trust website? | :25:27. | :25:28. | |
Well, I've talked to other divers as well who've dived in this area. | :25:29. | :25:32. | |
Look, divers used to come in their tens and 20s, | :25:33. | :25:34. | |
If you have 15, 20 divers coming and going, up and down all day, | :25:35. | :25:43. | |
they might well see one or two seahorses. | :25:44. | :25:45. | |
One man who sees more than his fair share of seahorses is Mike Bailey. | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
He's been fishing these waters for 30 years... | :25:51. | :25:54. | |
Although sightings of the spiny seahorse in Studland Bay ard rare, | :25:55. | :25:56. | |
he believes there's good news about the short-snouted seahorses | :25:57. | :25:59. | |
Going back, say, 20 years ago, seeing one was, like, rare. | :26:00. | :26:07. | |
The last few years, if you was to see 20 | :26:08. | :26:09. | |
This year we've seen over 100 already. | :26:10. | :26:19. | |
Seahorses often become tangled in Mike's fishing nets but he always | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
One local business owner, who runs Middle Beach Cafe | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
in Studland, thinks a Marine Conservation Zone light | :26:28. | :26:29. | |
All these people come in at the weekends, they moor up, | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
they come in, they use all the local facilities, | :26:36. | :26:37. | |
they use me, the shop, the pub, so they are bringing money | :26:38. | :26:40. | |
in, so it's not good news for a little village like this | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
who relies so much on tourism and people | :26:44. | :26:45. | |
Julie Hatcher from the Dorsdt Wildlife Trust has a partictlarly | :26:46. | :26:52. | |
personal reason for wanting to see the seahorses thrive here... | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
The first pregnant one that actually kicked all this off... | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
Can we hold you responsible then for it all? | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
And it's not just the seahorses that Dorset Wildlife Trust | :27:05. | :27:09. | |
There's a whole host of wildlife they say would benefit | :27:10. | :27:12. | |
from Studland Bay becoming a Marine Conservation Zone... | :27:13. | :27:17. | |
Bass, bream, we've got flat fish out there | :27:18. | :27:19. | |
All of those commercially-ilportant species make their home | :27:20. | :27:27. | |
here when they're young, when they're juveniles. | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
So, if it became a Marine Conservation Zone, there wotld then | :27:32. | :27:34. | |
be the power to introduce some kind of management and we could start | :27:35. | :27:37. | |
to protect the wildlife unddr the sea in the same way that we do | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
Those that deny there's a problem say that the science behind | :27:42. | :27:48. | |
the studies is flawed and that an MCZ would be expensive, | :27:49. | :27:51. | |
I've sat round the table multiple times with experts | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
from Natural England, from Defra and none of us | :27:58. | :27:59. | |
round the table can come up with a solution for this site. | :28:00. | :28:02. | |
Until we can, I don't think this site can be | :28:03. | :28:04. | |
designated when you don't know what the management could bd. | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
This site is so important to seahorses. | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
If mankind cannot get this right, I will absolutely be devast`ted | :28:13. | :28:17. | |
I mean, it'll be time to hang up my fins to be honest and not | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
But I am the eternal optimist and I believe that it will be | :28:21. | :28:25. | |
That's it for tonight but join us again next Monday when we whll be | :28:26. | :28:39. | |
asking can the NHS survive diabetes? Hello, I'm Elaine Dunkley | :28:40. | :29:05. | |
with your 90-second update. Silence to remember | :29:06. | :29:07. | |
the Aberfan disaster. 50 years ago today, a mountain | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
of coal waste engulfed a village, 144 people were killed - | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
most of them were children. | :29:17. | :29:20. |