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Hello and welcome to Inside Out. Here's what's coming up tonight.

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Nearly three years after Gurkha families won the right to live in

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Britain, one army town has problems. Someone is going to end up dead

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definitely. They start a fight and other people start a fight and it

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goes like that. Can football bring peace to Aldershot?

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Everyone's worried. It is an accident waiting to happen.

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Extracting energy reserves from under the south.

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But will this gas bonanza cause earthquakes and contaminate our

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water? We're trying to put everything in place to make sure

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that nothing like this can happen again. And conservation success for

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the red kite. But can you over-pamper a bird of

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prey? A great spectacle or a nightmare worthy of Hitchcock?

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should fine people for feeding the birds en masse. This isn't proper

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management. I'm John Cuthill and Tonight we're at the Sir Harold

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Hillier Gardens just outside Romsey because of this, the Gurkha

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Memorial Garden. It's been nearly three years since that historic

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ruling. Joanna Lumley shouting triumphantly her war cry as Gurkhas

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are given the right to live in Britain. But no one could have

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predicted how many Nepalese people would choose to settle in one

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particular part of Hampshire. As Nick Wallis finds out, that's been

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Aldershot has always been known as the home of the British army but

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now some people are beginning to call it Little Nepal and not in a

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good way. Since Joanna Lumley's campaign to give Gurkhas and their

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families the right to settle here, thousands of people have come to

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this town and the surrounding areas. It's now thought 10% of the

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population is Nepalese. Not surprisingly this big influx over a

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short period has brought tension, particularly amongst some of the

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young people. In the local parks especially, there have been real

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problems between the two communities and one local youth

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worker has been watching the situation get worse. There's often

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clashes, especially around public events like firework displays.

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There has to be an increased police presence. There isn't any

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integration or mixing going on. It tends to be a big group of Nepalese

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people in the parks. Has that led to confrontations? Yes. And they

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can get violent? Definitely. Every time I'm in here I have to run. You

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get all the Nepalese coming up here and they start chasing us and stuff.

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I've had a few fights with them at school. I was jumped at school by

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seven of them. So they've come here and they take over? They've bullied

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us out of our park basically. summer while riots were going on in

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other parts of the country, Manor Park in Aldershot was seen as a

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potential tinderbox. The police were granted a dispersal order,

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allowing them to move youngsters out of the area and things did calm

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down. But it seems whenever there is a big event in Aldershot,

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trouble is never far away. In every funfair there's a fight going on

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somewhere. There's always going to be a fight. I don't know. How bad

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does it get? Three or four police vans pull up. Like, pretty bad.

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When the white kids say it's you guys starting it, you're ing the

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problem, what do you think? Every time different people start. It's

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not just us, not just them. Everyone starts, to be truthful.

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These young men, sons of Gurkha soldiers, have come here to make a

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new life with their families. They have to deal with a new language

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and an alien culture and many have had a hostile reception. There's

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lots of white people being racist to us. It's different colours. We

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have a different colour of skin. They call me by different names and

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tell you to go to your own country. It's difficult actually, dealing

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with them. It's clear there's a big divide

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between the two communities. Suspicions, misunderstandings and

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little dialogue. They just want to stick together. They don't want to

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be friends with white people. older Nepalese people, they're all

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right, aren't they? Nothing wrong with them. It's just the young'uns.

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It's not always them starting. It's both of us. They start it

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really. When we're on our own, they like to start. When we are with a

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group, we like to start. Where do you see this going if something

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isn't done? Someone is going to end up dead, definitely. It's not will

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it happen. It's when it's going to happen and that's a definite. If we

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don't stop it now or try to stop it now, it's going to just escalate

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and you're going to lose a whole generation of people with

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resentments towards each other. I know there's ways around it, but no

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one seems to be trying to help at the moment. This man is trying to

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do something. When his wife couldn't get an appointment with

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the local GP because of the numbers of new Nepali patients, it was the

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final straw. He started a Facebook page highlighting the problems.

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actually signed the petition for the Gurkhas to come to the UK. I

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just think it was ill thought out. Too many people, too fast. I wanted

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to voice my concerns, rather than doing it in the pub with friends,

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on a larger scale. I started a Facebook group just to see what

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would happen. Over the next 72 hours we had over 1000 members join.

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Despite some racist postings on the site, Sam is adamant it isn't a

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platform for bigots. He wants it to be a force for good between the two

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communities. Yeah, I've got three children. At the point when I

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started the group, my newest son was two weeks old. I was basically

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sat there on the sofa thinking is this the Aldershot I want my family

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to grow up in? I don't want them to grow up in a divided community with

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hate and segregation. I just wanted something to change. Like Sam,

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youth worker Richard Cooper is trying to build bridges. At the

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town's youth club, locals are cooking the Nepalis a traditional

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English meal, curry. But the biggest challenge will be bringing

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together those factions involved in confrontation. Richard thinks he

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might have the answer. The beautiful game. A football match

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with both sides playing together. It's not rocket science. It's food

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and football, two of the most sociable, easily organised

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activities you can get. The challenge is the integration part

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of it. Even in a controlled football pitch environment. I've

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started to notice a slight shift in viewpoints over the last couple of

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weeks though. You know what, it's about time we shook hands. You say

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you'd like to sort it out. What actually needs to be done? Bonding

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together. Group activities. should get us all in a group. Seven

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of us and seven of them. Do basketball. That's what they do,

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basketball. And play football, what we do, the English people. We love

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playing football. If their community wants to get us together,

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I guarantee we will be the first ones to go ahead with that and be

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friends. We really do want to be friends. This is a new country for

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us. It's not like back home. To make more friends, that's all we

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want. It's three months since the idea of the match was first

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suggested. Today is the big day, but will enough people turn up? Now

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the teams are going to be mixed so it's no us and them. Let's see what

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sort of bridges can be built over the next 90 minutes. Marley. Yut.

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Pauppu. Mika. Danu. Rhys, Harry, Nath, Jamie. I'm excited for this

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game. It's going to be good. I can't wait. I didn't think it was

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going to happen. We don't really play with them. It will be good to

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get involved with them and that. This is one of the main boys as

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well from what happened with the fights. I can't be bothered to

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fight with them. I want to get on with them. You're here for one

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thing and that is to play football, OK? You're on one team, one side,

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with one idea, to change Aldershot. Every one of you is here to make

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that choice today. All right? the teams are picked with Nepali

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and white lads playing together, the spectators are getting to know

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each other, too. Nice to meet you. I'm one of the dads. I take it you

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are as well. Those are mine. older generation are supporting the

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youngsters, keen to see new friendships made. I always loved

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British people because we are here in their country so we have to

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integrate with them. You deserve to be here. You deserve to be here.

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That is my perception. Those are my cousins. I tell them don't fight

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with British people. Try to talk to them. Try to share ideas with them.

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If there are any problems with the kids on my side of it or any of my

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kids or anything like that, then just give me a ring and we need to

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sort things out. Yes. The match kicks off and it quickly becomes

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obvious the game is more important than any feud.

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It's competitive but there are no flare-ups. Months of racial tension

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begin to drain away. By doing all this and everyone getting together

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and playing football, everyone is changing and that. It's getting

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everyone together to make a team. We play together. Nepali and white

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people and we make friendship more so there won't be any trouble in

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It is hoped this match will be the first of many and that these

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players will form a regular team called United Rushmore, which will

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compete in the local leagues. was a nice game. I got to know more

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people. It's doing really well. It's going good. Firm handshakes,

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eye to eye contact, a few smiles? Yes. I think a couple are all right

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people when you get to know them and speak to them. If all goes well,

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these lads will bring football success to the town and a positive

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legacy for future generations. Fantastic. Everyone here was for

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the same thing altogether. It was quite a sight. Do you think you

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have bright prospects? I'm under no disillusion. It's not fixed. But we

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got 25 or 30 guys that are starting a friendship. This is the future,

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the future of Aldershot. You're all so proud of your town and your

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choice is today. Change comes through choice. We are all here

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today out of choice because you want to make a difference to the

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town you're going to grow up in. This is where all the racial

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Next, is fracking the answer to the South's looming energy crisis? It's

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controversial. It's been blamed for causing tremors and it could be

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heading our way. Scott Ellis investigates.

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In America, fracking for gas is a $1 trillion industry. It's highly

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profitable and highly controversial. And before long, fracking could

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come to areas across the South. In West Sussex, this site in the

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village of Balcombe is being considered for test drilling by

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Cuadrilla, the company linked to earth tremors in Lancashire. Over

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in Somerset, UK Methane has already sunk a test drill. If the site is

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suitable, fracking could be used to extract the gas. If I said fracking

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to you, do you know what it means? No, not fracking. I've heard it

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somewhere. It sounds rude. suspect that it means something

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quite unusual that you're perhaps going to tell me. Hydraulic

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fracturing involves drilling thousands of feet to gas that's

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trapped in deep shale rocks. Then small explosions open up cracks,

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followed by the frack itself, a mixture of water, sand and

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chemicals, pumped down at high pressures, helping to free up the

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gas. So you need water, sand and a few chemicals. Force them into the

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ground, and the gas comes up to the Fracked gas is now all the rage in

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America. It's revolutionised their energy sector. 15 years ago the USA

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was building liquefied natural gas terminals all round its coast. They

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felt they were running short of their own gas supplies. These were

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import terminals for importing the natural gas from Qatar. They have

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been turned into export terminals, so America is exporting gas to

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other countries, which is a phenomenal turnaround. But a lack

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of regulation in America has caused a backlash. There are fears that

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fracked gas has escaped into underground water supplies. The

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industry denies that fracking is the only possible cause. But this

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year, controversy came here to the UK, when Cuadrilla's high-pressure

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fracking operations near Blackpool were followed by two earthquakes.

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On the day the earthquake report was released, anti-fracking

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protesters shook things up, taking this footage as they occupied

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Cuadrilla's site. Cuadrilla has admitted it was highly probable

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that their fracking triggered the earthquakes. They've stopped the

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process while they improve underground monitoring. It is not

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in our interest to have these kind of seismic events. It's time-

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consuming to us. We're trying to put everything in place to make

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sure that nothing like this can happen again. Fears about water

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supplies being poisoned and triggering earthquakes. It's not

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been a great first year for fracking in the UK. Is everybody

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just exaggerating? What do the experts think about this earth-

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shattering new way of releasing shale gas? Bristol has its own

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earthquake study centre where they can recreate seismic activity.

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Here's the brutal earthquake which struck Christchurch in New Zealand

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in February, killing 181 people. And they've also monitored the two

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earthquakes in Lancashire, linked to the Cuadrilla fracking process.

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What we are seeing here is a simulation of the Blackpool

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earthquake as a result of the fracking event. You can see it is

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over. It lasted for about three seconds, very low altitude shake.

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The earth moves about a centimetre, not enough to cause any structural

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damage or injury. From an earthquake point of view, the vast

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amount of evidence that's out there from this fracking process which

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has been done around the world, is that the earthquakes that are

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generated by it are very small and insignificant from a structural

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engineering point of view. everyone is convinced. Richard set

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up an anti-fracking group in the Mendips. It is an area where

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fracking could be used to unlock gas reserves. But it's not

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earthquakes that bother him. issue that I've got is the

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chemicals that they pumped underground to create this

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fracturing effect. What it does is they pump a mix of chemicals at

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very high pressure and they pumped into the loose rock, the shale. The

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gas, so to speak, fizzes out of the shale. The problem is these

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chemicals are really noxious. Hundreds of thousands of people get

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their water from the Mendips. If you look over there you can just

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about see Cheddar Reservoir, fed by the river among other things. The

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Cheddar Yeo River actually goes underground and pops out again.

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What if we get chemicals leaking into there? It's too big a risk for

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what is a very small gain. question you might have is what

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else goes in. The industry makes no secret that chemicals are added to

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the water used for fracking. In the UK, every additive has to be

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It's in the city of Bath where fracking is feared most. The hot

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spring waters here sustain a leisure and tourism industry which

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employs thousands. It's water which falls first as rain on the Mendips.

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So this is the water from the bowels of the earth? This is our

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Yes, it is an acquired taste. an unusual case. The council leader

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and some MPs are worried. If fracking comes to the Mendips,

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might the dash for gas disrupt Bath's vital springs? In a worst-

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case scenario you could have water going elsewhere. To be absolutely

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truthful, we don't know the journey that the water takes to get here,

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other than it takes several thousand years after falling on the

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Mendips to arrive at our springs here. What we would like to see is

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no fracking in any area that affects our water supply until

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someone has proven to us that there is absolutely no risk. Once you

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change the water flows and it stops coming, then that is an

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irreversible decision. government doesn't think a

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moratorium is necessary or that fracking poses a direct threat to

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water aquifers. But politicians in Bath want stronger guarantees that

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the city's water supply will be protected from drilling miles away

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on the Mendips. So how soon before fracking comes here to the Mendips?

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UK Methane have told us it could be years away. They are more

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interested in fracking first in South Wales and then Kent. Then

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again, this is the energy business, and things can change quickly. The

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government wants to win over the public so it can expand fracking

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operations in the UK. Gas burns more cleanly than coal, so it could

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help to reduce emissions. It's all a question of balancing the

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Finally tonight, will they be a victim of their own success? It's

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taken nearly two decades to re- establish one of our most beautiful

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birds of prey, the red kite. But not everyone is happy they're back

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in such numbers. The Chilterns in Oxfordshire, the heart of red kite

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country. Here was the first place they were reintroduced after being

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wiped out by man. It's been a huge success. 20 years ago, you'd be

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hard pushed to see any. Now there are nearly 700 breeding pairs.

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Brassy, bold and beautiful, red kites riding thermals under blue

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skies. For some people that's just not enough. Red kites favour

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carrion. They're primarily scavengers. As for that old saying

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there's no such thing as a free lunch? This is Friday lunchtime for

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the kites, is it? That's right. How long have you been doing this?

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Eight or 10 years, I suppose. did you start? When they let them

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go first, there weren't many. I suppose it was a bit of a novelty.

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You feed them and you start these things and then you carry on, sort

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of thing. How many can we expect to get with this lot put on the floor?

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Hopefully there will be 20 or more. Do you see them as something to

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enjoy? Are the numbers getting too much? I like them but a lot of

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people don't, do they? Really? What have we got there? Chicken? Pork?

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Yes and a bit of beef. Hopefully they will come now. If you feed

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them every day, they will sit here and wait for you to come with more

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food. They won't even try to get anything on their own. If you feed

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them now and again they try to get their own. Is that something you

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decided to do as the numbers grew? Well, there's too many here at the

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minute, really. They want splitting up a bit. Do you think that's

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because people have been feeding them too much? Well, they do.

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Everybody finds something for them. A bit of chicken waste or something.

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So you never see a hungry red kite? Not really. Not round here. They

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just keep coming. And just a mile or so down the road, the food just

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keeps on coming. Chips, by the look of it. While the customers inside

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Chris's cafe are being well fed, the red kites are licking their

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beaks ready for today's tasty treat. It's only the scraps that comes off

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the things. Chips, bread and butter, fried slice. Bacon, sausage. Black

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pudding. Anything else. Not eggs and beans and that because that

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makes it too yucky. They're supposed to be scavengers so it's

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really meat. Anything that's meat is what they really want. We leave

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the ribs out and the birds eat the ribs and the people eat the meat.

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Now that's seriously fast food. But not everyone is happy. I think it's

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wrong. I don't think people should be doing it like this. I think they

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should be left alone to get on with it like the rest of life. If they

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are managed properly, they will be fine, but this is not proper

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management. You think perhaps a deterrent would help? Possibly. To

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the extent that we should fine people for feeding the birds en

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masse. Really, why? Well, we've got to try and do things right. The

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countryside has to work along with everyone. I don't feel it's the

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right way to manage the birds properly. You don't look in the air

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and see loads of peregrine falcons or hawks or kestrals coming in and

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feeding and foraging on bacon sandwiches. But you do with red

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Let's not forget why red kites were brought back. Just take a look at

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Instantly you can tell it's a red kite. Yes, very distinctive shape.

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Those very narrow, long, outspread wings. Wingtips like fingers. The

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tail forked and constantly moving. And the colour is very distinctive

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as well. I think they're just magical. The fact that they've been

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reintroduced from a point that they were extinct in England and now we

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can see them on a daily basis, enjoying the thermals, flying

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around this fantastic countryside. People have been putting food out

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for red kites for years, thinking they are doing them a favour. But

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what it might be doing is actually causing them to cluster in areas

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where perhaps they are not as welcome as they might be. Maybe

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they are breeding at a higher level in areas where they are being fed

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than the area would naturally be able to sustain. So in the long

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term, it may actually be doing more harm than good? That's possible. I

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think a bit of feeding early on in the reintroduction probably helped

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them to get to a sustainable level. But really now I think it is time

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to back off and let them survive Right. No rest for the wicked. If I

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want a really close up view, there is work to be done. The things I do

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for Inside Out. Join Inside Out, they said. Go and see the world,

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they said. What am I doing? I'm picking up old chicken from a lay-

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Are you always going to feed them? Probably. We don't feed them so

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much in the summer because there's more food about. But with hard

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winters, it sees them through. You could say there are too many now,

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can't you? Do you think they need it? Do you think they need the

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chicken? When the weather is bad, I think they do. Yes.

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And it doesn't take long for the Now there's no denying that that is

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a spectacular sight. I've never seen so many birds of prey at one

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time. There must be at least 50 up there. The question is, is that

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doing them any good in the long The last thing you want is for this

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to turn into a bad news story and kites being seen as a bit of a pest.

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There is a danger that we are heading that way. There is.

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Obviously people start reading sensationalist news stories about

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children being injured by kites or kites coming down into people's

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gardens. We don't want the kites to be viewed in that way. They are

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wild animals, but because they have been accustomed to being fed, they

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are behaving in a much more bold way than perhaps we would like them

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to. All we need to do is stop feeding them and then they will go

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and find their food elsewhere. It's a very easy problem to solve.

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can see when they are perched in the trees. This is the man who

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helped reintroduce the red kites 20 years ago. What does he think?

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Would you ever have thought they would prove to be controversial?

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They are causing a bit of a rumpus. I think they are causing a rumpus

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because any time anyone sees masses of anything they think there are

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too many. You only have to go a short way up the M40 and you will

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hardly see them. They are very concentrated in this area, which is

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probably because people feed them round here. That is possibly bad,

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possibly good. I have no feelings about it really. That is why there

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are lots around here. You can't sit on the fence. Do you think people

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should feed them? They are wonderful to watch and I think it

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is probably reasonably all right to feed them. If it is a really cold

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winter it will be super because all of their prey is frozen solid so

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they cannot eat it. All the worms that they eat go deep down. In a

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really cold winter it would be ideal to feed them but the rest of

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the year doesn't really matter. Years ago we did not have any red

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kites, buzzards or ravens. Now we have buzzards, red kites and ravens.

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That is mainly because the red kites have come back and the

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poisoning has stopped. People don't persecute the birds any more. I

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think it's rather nice having them all back here again. It's where

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they should be. They were here 120 years ago and it's nice to have

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them back. You personally, how do you feel? Pretty good about it,

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And Reading University is currently running a survey on the feeding of

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red kites. For more information, drop me an e-mail.

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Look at that. Spring is on the way. See you next time.

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