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Good evening. Here is what is coming up this evening: the true | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
cost of caring for their elderly. In a special programme I go behind | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
the scenes in a New Forest nursing home. I think it is terrible after | :00:26. | :00:34. | |
he has fought for his country, and in the take his money. And we find | :00:34. | :00:44. | |
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some radical solutions to the problems of care in the warm. | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
rang not one day and said, how would you feel about a man? And I | :00:54. | :01:04. | |
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said, why not? This is Inside Out for the South. | :01:15. | :01:20. | |
The good news we're living longer. A million people in Britain are now | :01:20. | :01:26. | |
aged over 85. And the bad - as we reach retirement, one in three of | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
us will get dementia. And many of us will end up needing care in a | :01:30. | :01:40. | |
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home like this one in the New Forest. | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
But who pays what for their care is a lottery. If you're paid for by | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
social services, different councils will be prepared to pay different | :01:47. | :01:54. | |
rates. So here, Dorset pays more than Hampshire for its care. And if | :01:54. | :01:58. | |
you pay for yourself you could end up paying �500 a week more than | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
people without savings or assets, because private residents have to | :02:00. | :02:10. | |
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make up the shortfall. It is very difficult, because depending on how | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
much money you have that is how much money you have to pay. It is a | :02:20. | :02:25. | |
real stretch because you are talking in terms of around �1,000 a | :02:25. | :02:34. | |
week from the family. That has a pension, a private pension and a | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
state pension, all of which goes to pay for hymns. Otherwise I could | :02:39. | :02:45. | |
not afford it, we do not have any rich relations. The pensions almost | :02:45. | :02:50. | |
cover it and then we make it up. Dad worries about his money, but we | :02:50. | :02:54. | |
reassure him by showing him a statement every time I come, but I | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
did not do it today. He is worried that we will go bankrupt. But we | :03:00. | :03:08. | |
are just on the right side. There is a fog of confusion and | :03:08. | :03:12. | |
misunderstanding about who pays for care. Many people mistakenly | :03:12. | :03:18. | |
believe that their NHS will pay for it. They have a nasty surprise when | :03:18. | :03:22. | |
they discover that they have more than 23,000 pounds in savings are | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
assets then they will have to meet the whole of the cost of the care | :03:26. | :03:31. | |
themselves. You do find that people who are paying for themselves are | :03:31. | :03:35. | |
paying more than people who are placed there by the local authority. | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
It is that this problem of not enough money in the system. -- it | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
is back to this problem. Birchy Hill Nursing Home says it | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
struggles to recruit local staff. They operate a scheme sponsoring | :03:47. | :03:49. | |
workers from India and the Philippines who work 12-hour shifts | :03:49. | :03:59. | |
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for around the minimum wage. For one week only I'm joining them. | :04:02. | :04:08. | |
Can I try your hat on? Yes. year-old Ron has an advanced stage | :04:08. | :04:18. | |
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of Alzheimer's. What is your wife's name? Sylvia. If you cannot be in a | :04:23. | :04:31. | |
situation where there is not a lot going on, then it is not for you. | :04:31. | :04:41. | |
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Is that the same hat? Can I try your hat on? You get everything | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
done for you, whenever you want anything they get it for you, or | :04:53. | :05:02. | |
try to get it for you. They make you lovely and comfortable in urine. | :05:02. | :05:12. | |
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-- in your room. We looked all over the place and we found this was the | :05:16. | :05:22. | |
best one to come to. I have your lunch for you. I have been told I | :05:22. | :05:32. | |
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need to help cut your mate, is that alright? -- to cut your meat. Would | :05:33. | :05:42. | |
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you like some chicken? I think so. Is that alright? I haven't been | :05:51. | :06:01. | |
able to walk properly, but I want to try it again. | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
Weekly music sessions bring a lot of joy, but many council-run homes | :06:04. | :06:10. | |
have had to slash budgets on entertainment like this. It makes | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
them feel happy and sometimes because they are living here they | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
might feel more at, so this will cheer them up and take away their | :06:18. | :06:28. | |
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loneliness. I am inspired to work as a carer, looking after them so. | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
Brenda was 16 when she married Charlie, he is now 86. He worked | :06:45. | :06:52. | |
for 50 years in Southampton docks. In the end, you become the carer. | :06:52. | :06:58. | |
The husband-and-wife side of it gets very pushed out of the way. It | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
does not exist anymore. He becomes like a stranger, and your feelings | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
disappear as well. I know what is terrible, but it is just someone | :07:07. | :07:13. | |
that you come to visit. You feel guilty about it, but that is just | :07:13. | :07:18. | |
what happens after so many years of being parted. And when you were | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
together, the last few years were more or less getting upset and | :07:22. | :07:29. | |
running, so all you can think about is the bad times -- and fighting. | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
When you get that time when reality is that you cannot cope any more, | :07:33. | :07:40. | |
that must be so difficult to go through? It is. At the time you | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
think, what a relief, because at last you're not having to do that, | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
but then that isolation comes in and you are completely on your own | :07:48. | :07:56. | |
and it hits you that this is it for the rest of your life. It does not | :07:56. | :08:01. | |
just affect the person who has dementia or Alzheimer's, it | :08:01. | :08:08. | |
suspects -- it affects their family. Going to bed is a difficult one. I | :08:08. | :08:15. | |
am sorry, I did not think I would do this. I felt so tough. Frank is | :08:15. | :08:25. | |
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83. Lashing out isn't uncommon. Everyone here knows it will pass. | :08:40. | :08:49. | |
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To find out what it's really like working as a carer, I'm doing a | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
night shift. Eight till Eight. Putting people to bed, then back | :09:07. | :09:17. | |
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again, numerous trips to the loo and medicine rounds. It is 3:20am | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
3:20am. Power was tall that people with dementia are sometimes | :09:30. | :09:36. | |
confused about their body clock. Whilst we mostly sleep through the | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
night, someone with dementia might not. They might want to get up to | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
have something to eat, or walk around. You think that a person has | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
gone, that they are still there. You see flashes of their | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
personality and their character come through. It is like there is | :09:55. | :10:02. | |
another jigsaw puzzle of them, but it is not the complete picture, or | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
one are two pieces are missing. It is jumbled up, or in the box, and | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
you have got to try and pick the jigsaw pieces together. If you | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
spend time with them then there is the chance that you will find | :10:14. | :10:24. | |
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little sections of the cheques off. Good morning.. White mac -- little | :10:24. | :10:34. | |
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sections of the Dukes of. You start interact with people like Frank. | :10:35. | :10:43. | |
You learn that he used to love fishing and he used to be a builder. | :10:43. | :10:49. | |
Just knowing those two things, you can get through to them. Those two | :10:49. | :10:54. | |
keywords to trigger something and their eyes light up. You look at | :10:54. | :10:57. | |
and sometimes with his shouting, and the dementia is making him | :10:57. | :11:02. | |
quite cross, but underneath all of that he is the most lovely man who | :11:02. | :11:06. | |
would talk about fishing and building and his life until the | :11:06. | :11:16. | |
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cows come warm. -- come home. The cost of care is a huge pressure on | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
families already struggling with the illness of a loved one., other | :11:22. | :11:31. | |
times you can have sometimes he is definitely. -- sometimes he is | :11:31. | :11:41. | |
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talking nonsense, other times you I feel it is unfair that people | :11:47. | :11:55. | |
work all their life hard and all the sudden they need care and care | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
comes at a cost and they need to sell their house to pay for their | :12:00. | :12:07. | |
care. It is not very nice to talk. For Julie, dementia has robbed her | :12:07. | :12:14. | |
of financial security. My income does not cover my expenditure. If | :12:14. | :12:17. | |
you're on the Hampshire rate to have to contribute the state | :12:17. | :12:26. | |
pension and a half occupational pension so I now only get half his | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
occupational pension plus a minimal state pension because I did not | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
work when the children were small. My income does not cover my | :12:34. | :12:39. | |
expenditure. I have to pay for everything in the House, the | :12:39. | :12:43. | |
running of the House, the car. If you sell the property and make a | :12:43. | :12:49. | |
profit, the state will take that profit towards his upkeep. So, at | :12:49. | :12:55. | |
the moment I can't contemplate moving into somewhere which would | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
be more economical to run. There are days when I need to be on my | :13:01. | :13:07. | |
own to catch up with things. And I think I am all on my own and people | :13:07. | :13:14. | |
are doing things and you long to go out and be part of things. It is | :13:14. | :13:24. | |
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lonely. Sweet-toothed Ron came here in 2001. I came to get an | :13:31. | :13:38. | |
experience here, I have three years and I get experience and I go back | :13:38. | :13:43. | |
home and work there. It is a different experience than working | :13:43. | :13:51. | |
in India. Do have carers in India? No, we keep our elderly people at | :13:51. | :14:01. | |
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home. I will put it in a cup of tea. That's enough, no more. | :14:04. | :14:09. | |
government says it has increased spending by 71 �4 billion over four | :14:09. | :14:13. | |
years. It is working on a long-term reform including a cap on how much | :14:13. | :14:20. | |
individuals must spend. Everyone seems to be here apart from one | :14:20. | :14:27. | |
individual, Ron. Ron has a habit of when everyone is in one room, he | :14:27. | :14:35. | |
goes walkabout. He has a look for stuff in other people's rooms! | :14:35. | :14:45. | |
Hello, Ron! How are you? What are you eating? What of those? | :14:45. | :14:54. | |
Shortbread many biscuits. Is this your room? It might be. This is so | :14:54. | :15:04. | |
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leaners room. -- Selina's room. That's not you! They think I am the | :15:09. | :15:16. | |
strawberry man. They say the strawberry man has been. He has | :15:16. | :15:22. | |
worked all his life and a try and take his money. We used his pension. | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
That's how close to the line it is. It is terrible after he has paid in, | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
for for his country abroad and at home, was injured in the war, | :15:31. | :15:36. | |
hospitalised during the war and they take his money. It chokes me | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
up. I get so annoyed when I think about it. It's so unfair. If there | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
was me, it would be different. My dad has lived in England all his | :15:46. | :15:51. | |
life. When he needs some help, we are just on the right side but only | :15:51. | :16:01. | |
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just. We will call today for today. God bless. See you tomorrow. God | :16:01. | :16:11. | |
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bless. See you tomorrow. Goodbye Most people agree the system is not | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
sustainable, people who have resources and own their own home or | :16:21. | :16:26. | |
who have savings can end up with a catastrophic costs if they have | :16:26. | :16:31. | |
high needs for a long time. They can lose everything. And you don't | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
know who it will be until it arrives. It is very random in its | :16:35. | :16:40. | |
nature, it is a big risk in life and is difficult to insure against. | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
The other issue is that there is rising levels of need for older | :16:45. | :16:50. | |
people and people with disabilities that needs to be publicly funded | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
that public funds are not rising cost of council funds are reducing. | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
This is an issue that has been in the long grass for decades. This | :16:59. | :17:04. | |
government is actually getting to grips with it and I am absolutely | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
determined to see this through to a conclusion. And that real sense of | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
unfairness people feel that you have worked hard through life, | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
budgeted carefully, you get old age and you get an inch and lose | :17:16. | :17:22. | |
everything you have worked for. That unfairness has to be addressed | :17:22. | :17:32. | |
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and I am determined to see it Geoff and Jean have been married | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
for 56 years. Health Why's she has been good. But she can't | :17:40. | :17:46. | |
communicate with a. She recognises me when I can't usually. She smiles | :17:46. | :17:54. | |
at me. She smiles at the nurses' though. It was a typical decision | :17:54. | :18:00. | |
but it was getting -- she was getting aggressive in the mornings | :18:00. | :18:10. | |
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and it was difficult. She is 81. It's amazing how strong she was. | :18:10. | :18:15. | |
This is dreadful. You have lost them but they are still there, if | :18:15. | :18:23. | |
you know what I mean. You have to lose than twice. The population is | :18:23. | :18:29. | |
getting older, people are living longer because of the NHS, in a way. | :18:29. | :18:35. | |
It is a victim of its own success. This problem is going to grow, I am | :18:35. | :18:45. | |
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afraid. More people will suffer. The last time Andrew came I got | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
some oblique photographs of her laughing. I went home on a real | :18:52. | :19:02. | |
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And many thanks to all of the staff and residents at Birchy Hill before | :19:06. | :19:10. | |
opening their doors to us. Is that it, does it mean more of us will | :19:10. | :19:17. | |
need help in later life? A lot of work is being carried out to try to | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
find alternatives to what can be some expensive and challenging | :19:20. | :19:30. | |
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choices. I wonder what it's like to be 80. | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
If I live that long, who will be there to care for me when I can't | :19:35. | :19:41. | |
manage? And will pay the bill? The questions we ask because none of us | :19:41. | :19:44. | |
know how much it will cost and you can spend everything before the | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
state steps in. In York, some of the elderly have clubbed together | :19:51. | :19:58. | |
to share the risk. It's simple idea, before you get too decrepit you can | :19:58. | :20:05. | |
apply to live that your days as a commuter each run by the Joseph | :20:05. | :20:08. | |
Rowntree Foundation were residents know if and when they need nursing | :20:08. | :20:13. | |
care is available on site at no extra charge. It's not easy to get | :20:13. | :20:19. | |
in. You have to pass a medical and one of the Leasehold bungalows has | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
to be available. It pays to apply early. I am 53 and you make the | :20:25. | :20:31. | |
decision to come here at 61. It was quite easy for us. We came here | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
because my parents had died and we were the oldest people in the | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
family. We came here and suddenly we were the youngest. So, there | :20:40. | :20:47. | |
were people 40 years older than me. It offers peace of mind to those | :20:47. | :20:54. | |
who can afford it. Residents pay into a communal pot, �170 a month | :20:54. | :20:59. | |
if you are 60, more if you are older. They can be confident that | :20:59. | :21:03. | |
they will not get clobbered with care fees they can't afford. | :21:04. | :21:08. | |
are paying care insurance, you say in the pay amounts year-on-year | :21:08. | :21:13. | |
which covers the care. When you are fit, you pay over the odds but when | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
you need major care you do not pay more. So all of those worries about | :21:18. | :21:23. | |
what happens, you have answered them. We know where our care will | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
take place. We know where we would die. That's great. We collected | :21:28. | :21:36. | |
that boxing get on. -- tick that box the stock as residents get | :21:36. | :21:44. | |
older, they are more likely to use the facilities. This year, his wife | :21:44. | :21:48. | |
spent six weeks in a care home and while she was looked after, he also | :21:48. | :21:53. | |
dipped into the communal pot for the first time. I was offered and | :21:53. | :22:00. | |
found to my surprise it was welcomed her in a bungalow. So, you | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
have been paying in all this time, effectively paying over the odds | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
when you're well but now you get some back. It seems there wasting | :22:08. | :22:18. | |
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It seems to me it is a local solution to a national state | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
responsibility, paying for the care of the elderly. But the fact is at | :22:26. | :22:31. | |
a time of cuts to public services, the politicians simply cannot agree | :22:31. | :22:34. | |
on whether -- where to find the money. The issues keeps getting | :22:34. | :22:39. | |
kicked into the long grass. The truth is despite the recession, | :22:39. | :22:44. | |
Britain is still many times richer in real terms than it was when | :22:44. | :22:49. | |
today's pensioners were born. We can afford to look after them but | :22:49. | :22:54. | |
in Westminster politicians tell you priorities lie elsewhere. Is it too | :22:54. | :22:59. | |
ridiculous to imagine the answer is to put taxes up so we can pay to | :22:59. | :23:04. | |
look after the elderly? It is ridiculous to suggest we should use | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
the tax system progressively to look after and care for people in | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
old age, it's ridiculous put it this -- politically because no one | :23:13. | :23:18. | |
will change it -- touch it with a bargepole. People are scared of tax | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
and spend and the consequences up the moment of the economic impacts | :23:22. | :23:30. | |
in terms of further depression of our economy. With tax payers | :23:30. | :23:33. | |
apparently unable or unwilling to pay for the increasing care demands | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
of the elderly, the search is on for ways to provide help without | :23:37. | :23:42. | |
the need for large amounts of public money. I've come to Essex to | :23:42. | :23:47. | |
see one of the countries home shares in action. The idea is | :23:47. | :23:54. | |
popular on the Continent. husband died in 2002, I have had | :23:54. | :23:59. | |
rheumatoid for two years and I was getting worse. I did some research | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
and came up with a share and care. My daughter said how would you feel | :24:04. | :24:14. | |
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about a man? A man? Why not? wrote Iona was much with Graham, an | :24:20. | :24:28. | |
NHS worker whose 45. For the last two years, they have lived | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
alongside each other in her home. The deal is he its rent free in | :24:33. | :24:38. | |
return for spending 10 hours a week helping out. You see the advert and | :24:38. | :24:43. | |
it says this is not a flat share with an NHS work, it is living with | :24:43. | :24:49. | |
an older person. Taking care of the chickens, doing some shopping, | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
mowing the lawn and a few repairs. A bit of company. It's a lounge | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
suit to stay here in your own home. I desperately want to stay here. I | :24:59. | :25:06. | |
left my house. I intend to be carried out in a coffin. You don't | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
have a free board and lodging for chores relationship. You become | :25:10. | :25:16. | |
friends. We are friends. He has been amazing. He's given me my life, | :25:16. | :25:22. | |
my quality of life has risen. We laugh, he makes me roar with | :25:22. | :25:28. | |
laughter. And sometimes I make you fall with laughter. When you tell | :25:28. | :25:36. | |
dirty jokes! It is so nice when you see something that works as well as | :25:36. | :25:41. | |
that does. It's not for everybody. The older person it needs a spare | :25:41. | :25:46. | |
room and there needs -- the needs Cup be too severe. The characters | :25:46. | :25:52. | |
have to be right to get that kind of special relationship. So, it is | :25:52. | :25:58. | |
an answer but it's not the only answer. We need a joined-up | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
holistic answer that mobilises and supports families with caring, the | :26:02. | :26:06. | |
community is involved, younger and older people as part of the | :26:06. | :26:14. | |
solution. And over on the Isle of Wight, there is a unique social | :26:14. | :26:19. | |
experiment being piloted that aims to do just that. It's called care | :26:19. | :26:24. | |
for care, the idea is simple. For every hour of voluntary care people | :26:24. | :26:30. | |
put in for their neighbours, they built up in and was worth of care | :26:30. | :26:34. | |
credits they can keep in a time bank and used for Terrin care later | :26:34. | :26:41. | |
in life. One of the youngest of the members who have signed up for the | :26:41. | :26:48. | |
scheme is 36-year-old Lewis he has been helping out 87-year-old girl. | :26:48. | :26:53. | |
I have been coming to see pile every six months. I notched up 20 | :26:53. | :26:57. | |
Alice and I would like it think those hours will help my mother or | :26:57. | :27:05. | |
help myself if and when I needed. It can encourage you to get out | :27:05. | :27:11. | |
there and do something. My fingers, the top joint doesn't go over. | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
Therefore, I can't pick things up properly. I spend a lot of time | :27:16. | :27:23. | |
talking to him and he talked to me. There is a big help to me because | :27:23. | :27:29. | |
people don't come. Careful care is the brainchild of a professor who | :27:29. | :27:35. | |
hopes it will pay eight he part in solving the care crisis. I hope | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
over three years or so we will build it into a large national | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
scheme the stock I hope there might be a million members to stop the | :27:44. | :27:49. | |
problem is whether the next generation is officially keen to | :27:49. | :27:54. | |
ensure safety in the rain gauge to invest the hours which will by then | :27:54. | :28:02. | |
their care pension. In Westminster the talk is all about cuts and | :28:02. | :28:07. | |
austerity, not spending billions more caring for the elderly. The | :28:07. | :28:12. | |
responsibility falls on wider society, and communities and | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
neighbourhoods and families to fill the gap and help all of us feel | :28:16. | :28:26. | |
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more confident about prospects of growing old. That is it for tonight. | :28:27. | :28:33. | |
We are back next week with more stories from close to home. Next | :28:34. | :28:42. | |
Monday, the trail of the South's rarest plants with an orchid Hunter. | :28:42. | :28:46. |