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Tonight, what would you do for the perfect body? We meet one teenager | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
so desperate to lose weight he's prepared to risk his life. Is it | :00:12. | :00:18. | |
more dangerous to text and drive or drink and drive? Find out when I am | :00:19. | :00:23. | |
put through my paces later in the show. | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
That's all coming up on tonight's Inside Out with me, Mary Rhodes. | :00:28. | :00:35. | |
Many of us try to lose a little bit of weight from time to time. Most of | :00:36. | :00:39. | |
us who do wish there was an easy way to do it. But would you be tempted | :00:40. | :00:45. | |
by a shortcut? Some people are taking a substance that's supposed | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
to guarantee results but at what price? We have been investigating | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
the so`called quick`fix that can be fatal. | :00:54. | :01:01. | |
Being a former world champion boxer I certainly know what it takes to | :01:02. | :01:08. | |
get into shape. But burning fat and building muscle just isn't easy. | :01:09. | :01:14. | |
Bodybuilders knee too. Doing it right takes hard work. But it's why | :01:15. | :01:19. | |
some cheat with drugs like steroids. And accord according to web chat | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
there's another substance doing the rounds. This one burns fat. It's | :01:25. | :01:30. | |
called DNP. This stuff heats you up, it makes you sweat and then it | :01:31. | :01:36. | |
delivers its knockout blow. By killing people. | :01:37. | :01:44. | |
Chris Mapletoft and Sarah Houston took DNP. He was working out. She | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
was losing weight. Now their families are living life without | :01:48. | :01:51. | |
them. I have spent most of my working life training in gyms which | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
is why I want to know more about this substance and why people are | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
taking chances with it. I am hoping Luke can help. He's been talking | :01:58. | :02:05. | |
about DNP on a website forum. Luke's a Midlands teenager and a fitness | :02:06. | :02:10. | |
fanatic. He's also been using DNP behind his parents' back. That's why | :02:11. | :02:14. | |
he doesn't want us to show you his face. His name's not really Luke | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
either. Luke, how long have you been | :02:20. | :02:24. | |
bodybuilding for? I've been bodybuilding for three years now. Do | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
you enjoy it? I love it, it's my lifestyle now. How did you get to | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
hear about DNP? It was from this other bodybuilder. He was like an | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
icon in Australia and I researched him and found out that he was using | :02:37. | :02:40. | |
DNP so I thought if it worked for him, it might work for me. So | :02:41. | :02:46. | |
someone in the sport of bodybuilding was taking it, he looked good? Yeah, | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
he was like the physique that every teenager would want. That's what you | :02:52. | :02:55. | |
wanted? Yeah, that's what I wanted at the time, yeah. | :02:56. | :03:00. | |
It also gave Luke a reason to try it but what is DNP or dinitrophenol? | :03:01. | :03:06. | |
The man in the know is a poisons expert so whatever it is, it doesn't | :03:07. | :03:10. | |
sound good. Well, it's a chemical that's been around for probably just | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
over 100 years or so. It's a precursor of TNT, an explosive and | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
then later on mainly in the 1930s, it came into fashion as a weight | :03:20. | :03:23. | |
loss agent, but fairly rapidly banned because of its toxicity. | :03:24. | :03:32. | |
Normally when you eat food it gets metabolise eshgs d and the energy | :03:33. | :03:35. | |
that's released gets stored within the body as a chemical and DNP stops | :03:36. | :03:40. | |
that storage and the body has to find other ways of getting rid of | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
that energy and it gets rid of it in the form of heat. Luke knows all | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
about that. After the first three days my temperature like really went | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
up really high. I started sweating constantly. So I had to have a fan | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
around me every time wherever I was. Your breathing is like rapid, and | :03:59. | :04:05. | |
you can't sleep because you're constantly sweating. But despite the | :04:06. | :04:09. | |
horrific side`effects, Luke was still convinced it was worth it. | :04:10. | :04:17. | |
It's also pretty easy to get hold of it. This company's based in Turkey. | :04:18. | :04:23. | |
DNP for sale, rapid delivery. Luke had no problem finding it either. I | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
already knew he had used it once, but now he is using it again. The | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
side`effects, well, tell me about them. How bad were they? This time | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
when I took it, it did give me more of an allergic reaction, as well. It | :04:39. | :04:45. | |
was a heat rash. I had to go to A My heart rate increased and sweating | :04:46. | :04:51. | |
got even worse. I was dehydrated. My lips were bleeding and when I mean | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
dehydrated, I thought I was going to die. So DNP's clearly having a | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
dramatic effect on Luke's body and I am getting more concerned he is not | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
taking the risks seriously. Luke, I want to show you something. This is | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
Chris, 18 years of age, keen sportsman. Took DNP and tragically | :05:12. | :05:19. | |
lost his life. Here we have Sarah. A promising medical student. But again | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
a tragic end. In fact, DNP has been linked to the | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
deaths of all the people I am showing Luke here. Just looking at | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
these, how does it make you feel? It makes me feel that they might not | :05:34. | :05:39. | |
have been aware of the dosage, so that's why this could have occurred. | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
It's not as bad a drug if you know what you are doing. I think that | :05:44. | :05:47. | |
these people probably didn't have the correct dosage and didn't know | :05:48. | :05:53. | |
about getting very dehydrated which would cause death. | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
You are saying about the dosage, surely it's the poison they're | :05:59. | :06:02. | |
putting in their mouths? It is that, as well, but if you put more dosage | :06:03. | :06:08. | |
in, it's more poison towards you. Convincing Luke he is risking his | :06:09. | :06:12. | |
life is proving much harder than I thought and I am also really | :06:13. | :06:15. | |
concerned by how easily he managed to get hold of this stuff. I am even | :06:16. | :06:19. | |
more shocked when our supply arrives. | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
Packed into a small box with no instructions whatsoever. But more | :06:24. | :06:26. | |
importantly, there's not a warning to say if you take these things they | :06:27. | :06:33. | |
might just kill you. The Food Standards Agency is already | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
talking tough. It can prosecute anyone caught selling DNP to burn | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
fat but some websites are trying to get around that by warning people of | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
the dangers. Putting a disclaimer on the bottle | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
or the label doesn't cover you in any way. It's already illegal to | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
sell this as a food supplement so the legislation is already there. | :06:54. | :06:56. | |
It's already active. In terms of what we need to do to prosecute | :06:57. | :07:00. | |
anyone that sells this or anyone trafficking it, the law is already | :07:01. | :07:04. | |
provided for. But we still managed to get hold of | :07:05. | :07:08. | |
DNP. Is the law working? We have already closed or altered 40 | :07:09. | :07:12. | |
websites around the world to stop this industrial chemical coming in | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
and being used for people. Geoff and Gina Houston say that's | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
not enough. Their daughter Sarah died after taking DNP and like | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
Luke's parents didn't know she was taking it. If I can't stop Luke, I | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
am hoping her grieving parents can talk some sense into him. Tell me | :07:31. | :07:34. | |
about Sarah, what kind of a girl was she? She loved life. She loved to | :07:35. | :07:41. | |
have fun with her friends. She was passionate about her medicine. She | :07:42. | :07:46. | |
would have made an exceptional doctor. When did you find out then | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
she was taking DNP? We found out after she died. The police found a | :07:53. | :07:57. | |
brown envelope of pills in her room. It was only about three months later | :07:58. | :08:04. | |
that we found out they were DNP capsules. I brought Luke along who's | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
been taking DNP. What advice can you give him? Luke, over what period of | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
time had you been taking DNP and what sort of side`effects did you | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
have from taking it? Heavy breathing and sweat sweating throughout the | :08:20. | :08:25. | |
night, not being able to sleep. Did that frighten you, scare you? Yeah. | :08:26. | :08:31. | |
Did you go to hospital? When I had my allergic reaction that's when I | :08:32. | :08:34. | |
went to hospital. You realise in hospital there's nothing they can do | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
to help you. Once you have taken it, it's a completely irreversible | :08:38. | :08:41. | |
reaction. Once it starts working, there's nowhere to go. It's | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
horrendous, so that's why... It is what killed our daughter. And we | :08:48. | :08:54. | |
loved her very much. Geoff and Gina's message to Luke is | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
deliberately blunt. But they also want the Home Secretary to sit up | :08:58. | :09:01. | |
and listen. That's why we are here in front of the cameras saying, | :09:02. | :09:04. | |
look, guys if you are taking it, you have got to stop it because your | :09:05. | :09:08. | |
life's in danger. But also that's why we want to appeal to Theresa May | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
in terms of getting it reclassified because it raises the Met abottlic | :09:16. | :09:25. | |
rate and is `` metabolic rate and is incredibly dangerous and therefore | :09:26. | :09:28. | |
should be a controlled substance. Their MP is also backing them. I | :09:29. | :09:34. | |
have written to the Home Secretary. This is not a drug to be used to | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
control body weight. It can be lethal and is proving to be | :09:39. | :09:42. | |
increasingly lethal because we have seen this increase in deaths. While | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
changes to the law will take time, Geoff and Gin A's meeting with Luke | :09:47. | :09:57. | |
has `` Gina's meeting with Luke has already made a difference. Yeah, I | :09:58. | :10:00. | |
am going to stay away. What they said about their daughter when she | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
passed away, they didn't know what killed her. It was an unexplained | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
death and that's quite scary. It seems Luke has learned his lesson in | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
time. Other users haven't been so lucky. | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
I do hope that Luke sticks to his word. If you would like advice on | :10:18. | :10:21. | |
how to lose weight safely, there's more information on our website. | :10:22. | :10:29. | |
Next, from diets to dangerous driving. In a recent survey yearly | :10:30. | :10:35. | |
half of all drivers questioned admitted to being distracted by | :10:36. | :10:38. | |
phones on the road. Really how dangerous can sending a quick text | :10:39. | :10:46. | |
be? Traffic cops see things like this | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
all the time and hear the same old excuses. The first reason you came | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
to our attention is you are not wearing a seatbelt. Sorry finishing | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
off a quick text. It doesn't take long and sometimes they're really | :11:02. | :11:05. | |
important. Important enough to risk your life | :11:06. | :11:10. | |
or someone else's? In getting the sat`nav to work or changing the | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
destination, that's essential, isn't it? | :11:15. | :11:17. | |
In a recent survey 75% of drivers felt that driving was riskier than | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
it was ten years ago and they blame it on being distracked by gadgets. | :11:22. | :11:27. | |
`` distracked by gadgets. `` distracted by gadgets. He is still | :11:28. | :11:33. | |
on the phone. There he is. Phone to his ear. Have you got your phone | :11:34. | :11:43. | |
with you? Grab your phone out. OK. Before we carry on I will caution | :11:44. | :11:46. | |
you... When it comes to multitasking on the | :11:47. | :11:53. | |
move West Midlands traffic cops PC Mark Holden and PC Eric O'Neill have | :11:54. | :11:57. | |
seen it all. You get people watching DVDs and things on laptops while | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
driving along. A lot of people having video conferences calls now. | :12:04. | :12:10. | |
Reading a newspaper. People putting on make`up. Male and female. | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
Basically, you name it, if you can possibly do it in the car somebody | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
will try to do it at some point while driving. | :12:21. | :12:26. | |
It goes on so much spotting them is easy. This chap's got hold of the | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
steering wheel and has not got the phone to his ear, he is holding it | :12:31. | :12:37. | |
in his hand. For Nazan Fennel the warnings can't be overstated. Her | :12:38. | :12:41. | |
daughter Hope was hit by a lorry and killed in 2011. | :12:42. | :12:49. | |
It was her 13th birthday. Just five weeks into her 13th birthday, so as | :12:50. | :12:56. | |
she said herself, a brand new teen. She loved it. She loved being a | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
teen. The trucker, who had been texting and driving through the city | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
prior to running Hope over, was convicted and jailed for dangerous | :13:06. | :13:09. | |
driving and perverting the course of justice for deleting his texts. | :13:10. | :13:14. | |
When he realised what was under his vehicle and the emergency services | :13:15. | :13:21. | |
were called, and a lot of people were panicking out here, he went | :13:22. | :13:29. | |
back into his cab and deleted the evidence which was his texting all | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
the way through, approaching about half an hour before he struck Hope. | :13:34. | :13:39. | |
Nazan is now campaigning for greater road safety in Birmingham as part of | :13:40. | :13:43. | |
that campaign, a ghost bike marks the spot where Hope was killed. The | :13:44. | :13:49. | |
presence of the bike means that someone has died here at this spot | :13:50. | :13:56. | |
exactly. This is a visual warning for the traffic as I say. And for | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
the pedestrians crossing. It makes them think what is this for here? | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
What's happened here? We saw plenty of bad habits at the | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
very crossing where Hope died. It seems this type of behaviour isn't | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
as socially unacceptable as drinking and driving. But I have come to meet | :14:15. | :14:19. | |
someone who says he can prove it's just as dangerous. Vp Dr Nick Reed | :14:20. | :14:27. | |
is a researcher at the Transport Research Laboratory and he is Gok | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
put my driving skills to the `` he is going to put my driving skills to | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
the test in a simulator. This is the driving simulator. First, with no | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
distractions. Then the phone goes. OK. A text. | :14:44. | :14:50. | |
This could prove to be interesting. First, find my phone. | :14:51. | :14:56. | |
It's probably the office. It usually is. | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
Yeah, it's my producer. Am I coming out on Friday? | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
I wonder if she needs an answer now? Probably. | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
This is the variability and position as she goes around the bends. These | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
are the reaction times. The sat`nav needs my attention now. | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
OK, Mary. The location for the shoot has changed. We would like you to | :15:22. | :15:30. | |
head to RG 403 GA. This is where it gets interesting. The doctor's | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
giving me a drink. I have to say it's a bit early! Even for a | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
journalist! I will pour this for you. Crikey. The measure of alcohol | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
in there will get to you the legal limit. We would like you to drink | :15:46. | :15:48. | |
that within five minutes, if you can. Back behind the wheel I can | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
feel the alcohol is taking effect. I am not convinced that using my phone | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
is worse than this. Her position behind that vehicle is very much ` | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
much more than it was in the controlled condition. Well done, | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
that's the end of the drive. You can bring the vehicle to a halt. That | :16:07. | :16:12. | |
glass is wine is really taking effect. So I am not really safe | :16:13. | :16:17. | |
behind one of these. Right, Nick, I would be interested to know how I | :16:18. | :16:24. | |
got on. OK, come in, take a seat. So, firstly, in the base line drive | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
you drove very well compared to other people we have seen in here, | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
you drove well, controlled, very careful. But what about when I was | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
distracted texting on my phone? The big difference that we noticed was | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
your position in the lane. Firstly, when you were following that lead | :16:42. | :16:44. | |
vehicle. You were staying much further behind and your position | :16:45. | :16:47. | |
relative to that vehicle was changing a lot more. Your responses | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
were clearly impaired by the distractions we were throwing at | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
you. There was a tendency to drift across the lane, you probably | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
noticed when you were sending the message you were moving across the | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
lane. Sometimes into the lane adjacent which clearly would be a | :17:04. | :17:07. | |
big risk. Then we did the final drive, the third drive with the | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
alcohol. Although your reactions and driving was clearly impaired, it | :17:13. | :17:16. | |
wasn't to the same extent in the measures we were taking to the | :17:17. | :17:19. | |
distractions. Your reaction times were actually faster when you had | :17:20. | :17:23. | |
the alcohol than they were when you had the distractions. So even though | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
I felt so unsafe after the wine, I was actually more dangerous when | :17:30. | :17:33. | |
using my phone. It fits with our research. The times when you are | :17:34. | :17:38. | |
using the smartphone, when you are being distracted by these other | :17:39. | :17:42. | |
tasks you are at greater risk of collision than when you are at the | :17:43. | :17:47. | |
legal limit of alcohol. Back in Birmingham, the officers are | :17:48. | :17:51. | |
moving in on the drivers behaving badly. It's the simple things that | :17:52. | :17:59. | |
give it away. He has it in his right hand. Come from the right`hand lane, | :18:00. | :18:04. | |
turning right. He still can't give a signal. | :18:05. | :18:11. | |
Those lights were on amber then. The man driving the white van is | :18:12. | :18:19. | |
drinking from a flask. And yet more drivers are being stopped for using | :18:20. | :18:27. | |
their phones. Yeah, he still is. Tell me what you know about using | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
your phone and the law whilst driving. OK, you are restricted... | :18:31. | :18:40. | |
And this driver reaches 80mph in a 50 zone. Is there any reason for | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
your speed? With so many cars on the road the way we behave and the | :18:46. | :18:49. | |
choices we make when we are driving are more important than ever before. | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
When you are travelling, you know, at 30, 40mph in a motor vehicle, you | :18:54. | :18:57. | |
are travelling great distranses in seconds. Things can change in an | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
instant. `` distances. Just turning around ash not looking at the road | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
in front `` around or not looking at the road in front can make the | :19:08. | :19:09. | |
difference between somebody dying and somebody not dying. Sound advice | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
there. It's easy to get caught newspaper | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
the moment and think one text can't really hurt, but having been put | :19:18. | :19:22. | |
through my paces it showed just how distracting it can be. | :19:23. | :19:29. | |
Ludlow Castle was built in the 12th century want as Richard III's | :19:30. | :19:35. | |
childhood home for a time. We are going into the great hall now. There | :19:36. | :19:37. | |
would have been a porch here. You can see there is a doorway that | :19:38. | :19:41. | |
would have gone to those quarters. The door we are going through may | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
even be the original door. There's bits of original door this way and | :19:45. | :19:49. | |
window shutters up on one of those windows. Sonia is the custodian here | :19:50. | :19:55. | |
at Ludlow Castle. She told me a bit about what it would have been like | :19:56. | :19:59. | |
for Richard III living here. You can see the fireplace here. There would | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
have been big roaring fireplaces. Over the doorways they would have | :20:04. | :20:08. | |
had rugs and things hanging to keep drafts out. For a child of eight or | :20:09. | :20:11. | |
nine that would have been brilliant running around. Know billity would | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
have sat in the `` nobility would have sat in the window seats | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
watching everyone having fun. What a great place to be a child. Fantastic | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
for riched around III. `` Richard III. It's fantastic as a room, but | :20:26. | :20:29. | |
can you imagine as a real house. Although it was an important place | :20:30. | :20:33. | |
in the King's life, it was under a council car park in Leicester where | :20:34. | :20:38. | |
his remains were uncovered. It is a year since that extraordinary | :20:39. | :20:43. | |
discover discovery put the city on the world map but after all the | :20:44. | :20:47. | |
initial excitement, a reburial planned for this spring has been | :20:48. | :20:54. | |
left in limbo. This is not a fight over an object. | :20:55. | :20:58. | |
It's about laying to rest a human being in the most appropriate place. | :20:59. | :21:06. | |
Richard's remains will leave Leicester over my dead body. | :21:07. | :21:17. | |
In 2012 an archaeologist dig turned into one of the most extraordinary | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
discoveries in recent history. This is the exact moment archaeologists | :21:23. | :21:26. | |
started to unearth the King in a car park. Yeah. There is the other | :21:27. | :21:36. | |
leg... Then a year ago this week came the news that everyone was | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
waiting for. The individual exhumed in September 2012 is indeed Richard | :21:43. | :21:52. | |
III. At the University, home to the expert team behind the dig, students | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
flock to open days. Archaeologists were overwhelmed by interest and | :21:59. | :22:03. | |
Leicester was well and truly in the global media spotlight. Canada. | :22:04. | :22:08. | |
South Africa. The Philippines. Thailand. For Leicester, things | :22:09. | :22:13. | |
couldn't have been going better until out of nowhere a group calling | :22:14. | :22:24. | |
themselves the Plantagenet Alliance. They're challenging for the way the | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
licence for the dig was granted. Are you a trouble`maker? Um... I am | :22:29. | :22:34. | |
quite passive, I think. Generally I am not a trouble`maker, I am trying | :22:35. | :22:54. | |
to right a wrong. Where did it all go wrong? I have come to the | :22:55. | :22:57. | |
University of Leicester to meet the man who project managed the Richard | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
III dig and whose name is on the licence that started this whole | :23:02. | :23:04. | |
thing off, and who, since January, is now an OBE. Your words say a | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
research excavation is under way to investigate the remains of | :23:09. | :23:10. | |
Leicester's FraWhere did it all go wrong? I have come to the University | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
of Leicester to meet the man who project managed the Richard III dig | :23:15. | :23:18. | |
and whose name is on the licence that started this whole thing off, | :23:19. | :23:21. | |
and who, since January, is now an OBE. Your words say a research | :23:22. | :23:24. | |
excavation is under way to investigate the remains of | :23:25. | :23:27. | |
Leicester's Franciscan Friary and also potentially locate the burial | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
place of Richard III whose remains were interred here in 1485. At this | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
stage within the application you are making it clear to the Ministry of | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
Justice it could be his remains that we find, but we are not sure? Yes, | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
absolutely. Ultimately, a project like this you can't just sort of | :23:41. | :23:44. | |
dive in, in the hope you can find a burial straightaway. But at no stage | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
do the Ministry of Justice come back to you and say, hold on, you are | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
talking about Richard III here, we have to do this differently? No, not | :23:53. | :23:56. | |
at all. Before every dig where human remains are likely to be found | :23:57. | :23:59. | |
archaeologists have to apply to the Ministry of Justice for a licence to | :24:00. | :24:02. | |
exhume any that might be unearthed along the way. I do feel quite | :24:03. | :24:06. | |
unhappy that people think the University did something incorrectly | :24:07. | :24:08. | |
because we followed normal practice on the exhumation of many, many | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
burials over the years. For example, at the High Cross Leicester | :24:12. | :24:14. | |
development we excavated over 1,300 burials and followed due process. Of | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
course, at the time we applied we didn't know whether we were actually | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
going to find Richard III or not but the application reflects the fact | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
that if we did find him this will be the process we would follow | :24:26. | :24:28. | |
subsequently, i.e. That they'd be reinterred in Leicester Cathedral. | :24:29. | :24:31. | |
Under the terms of the current licence, the University are still | :24:32. | :24:33. | |
the custodians of the King's remains. It's a big responsibility | :24:34. | :24:36. | |
with 24`hour security at a secret location on campus. There's lots of | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
research in the University that needs to be done in high`security | :24:40. | :24:42. | |
areas for various reasons. Of course, in the interests of making | :24:43. | :24:46. | |
sure that the bones are safe and secure, we have kept him in this | :24:47. | :24:49. | |
facility because it's a particularly safe one. No one really knows that | :24:50. | :24:53. | |
this is where he is, apart from you? No, there's only two of us who have | :24:54. | :24:58. | |
access to it. Is this the room? This is the room. Because there are | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
people who feel so strongly about it what we don't want is to risk | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
somebody taking action on those emotional feelings or souvenir | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
hunting or whatever. It's our duty to make sure that they are safely | :25:09. | :25:14. | |
kept until the re`interment. Archaeologists at the University of | :25:15. | :25:16. | |
Leicester believe it's best practice to rebury remains as close to where | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
they were found as possible. But not everyone agrees. So who are the | :25:23. | :25:28. | |
Plantagenet Alliance? What exactly do they want? I have come to York to | :25:29. | :25:37. | |
try to find out. York. Historic city and seen as | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
Leicester's biggest rival to rebury the King. It's had a Richard III | :25:43. | :25:50. | |
Museum since the 1990s and it's here that I have arranged to meet a | :25:51. | :25:55. | |
Yorkist on a mission. What are we looking at here? This is the Roe | :25:56. | :25:58. | |
family tree, my father's family tree, goes back to about 1645. What | :25:59. | :26:03. | |
descendant are you? 19 generations, so I am actually the 16th | :26:04. | :26:10. | |
great`niece of Richard III. As 16th great`niece, Vanessa Roe believes | :26:11. | :26:13. | |
she and other relatives should have been consulted when it became clear | :26:14. | :26:20. | |
the remains were the King's. Once somebody becomes named, it doesn't | :26:21. | :26:23. | |
matter how old they are or whatever, but if they do have descendants | :26:24. | :26:26. | |
there should be some consultation in their final resting place. If | :26:27. | :26:36. | |
Leicester was that bothered about him they would have dug him up years | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
ago. They knew where he was. They had a very good idea where he was. | :26:41. | :26:43. | |
Back in Leicester, a stone's throw from the dig site, more digging. | :26:44. | :26:48. | |
Building work to transform the grounds around the cathedral is well | :26:49. | :26:56. | |
under way. While inside... Today a cathedral website about Leicester's | :26:57. | :27:00. | |
links to Richard and why his remains should stay here went live. | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
Richard's story is completely embedded in Leicester's story. | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
Whatever the court decides, that does not change. He will be | :27:10. | :27:13. | |
remembered here. His remains are in the soil of Leicester. We look | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
forward to his bones also being back in the soil of Leicester. It matters | :27:19. | :27:22. | |
hugely to us all and to the people around us. I think it matters to the | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
people of England that we do the right thing and that means he needs | :27:27. | :27:31. | |
to be buried here. With delays caused by the judicial review, a | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
spring reburial has already been abandoned. Now there are real | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
concerns it might not happen this year. Taking this to the court at | :27:41. | :27:46. | |
all seems to me to be not the best way to deal with the remains of a | :27:47. | :27:49. | |
human being. I know it happens all the time but I think everyone | :27:50. | :27:54. | |
regrets that that's where we have got to with this. The judicial | :27:55. | :28:00. | |
review will be heard in London on March 13th. Only then will we know | :28:01. | :28:07. | |
what's next for Richard III. That's it from me. If any of | :28:08. | :28:12. | |
tonight's stories have struck a chord we would like to hear from | :28:13. | :28:14. | |
you. You can share your thoughts with us and others on our football | :28:15. | :28:21. | |
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should know about you can drop me an e`mail. From Ludlow, bye for now. | :28:27. | :28:29. | |
See you next time. A longer day, more exams and tougher | :28:30. | :29:14. | |
discipline. That is | :29:15. | :29:15. |