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Hello, from Wellington in Somerset. In tonight's programme... Do you

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know who is emptying your bins? With the so-called Casanova Conman

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awaiting sentencing, we investigate the devastating effects of identity

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theft on its victims - and I find out that my own identity has been

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stolen. You think you are here today to make a film about identity

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theft but actually you have become the latest victim. Narraser Gordon

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from Bristol hit the national headlines when she addressed the

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Labour party conference last year. In my own area of Bristol, ate up

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by family members have been murdered. -- eight of my family

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members. But when we looked deeper into Narraser's story, we uncover a

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different and astonishing version of her account. What he said was

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not true? And less than two weeks ago, Reverend John Suddards was

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stabbed to death. We investigate how risky it can be for the clergy

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to open to operate an open door policy. With surprising stories

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from close to home, I'm Alastair Every year, tens of thousands of

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people have their identity stolen by conmen looking to run up debt in

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their name. More often than not, the victim is the last to know

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they've been targeted - and it seems absolutely no-one's safe, as

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I found out when Polly Parsons from The Real Hustle made me the latest

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ID theft. It's one of the fastest So far, more than four million

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people in Britain have had their identities stolen. It is what is

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often seen as a high-tech online crime. ID theft doesn't just happen

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on the internet, it happens out in the real world too - and it's

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scarily simple to pull off. And no- one knows that better than this

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man... Kevin Castle, one of Britain's most notorious conmen. He

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made a fortune stealing people's identities across the south west.

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Identity theft is sometimes regarded as a victimless crime but

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that's not actually the case. A lot of these victims have actually been

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very, very traumatised. So just how easy is it to cash in on someone

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else's identity? Well, I'm going to find out and I think I've already

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got myself a likely victim... Alastair McKee and this is Inside

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I'm back in my hometown in Bristol to set about stealing Alastair's

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identity. Exposing scams like this is what I do for a living. This is

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The Real Hustle. New recruits. This time they have brought in two new

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faces. I As part of the team for BBC3's The Real Hustle, I thought

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I'd seen it all. But even I'm amazed by just how easy stealing

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someone's identity can be. Today, I'm meeting former Scotland Yard

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detective, Alan Evans. He now tackles fraud across the west - and

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that includes identity theft. a massive problem in this country

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it accounts for billions of pounds a year. �2.7 billion. Most people

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see it as an online crime but what are the thieves' tricks in the real

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world? Forget about that and look at the real world. Letters, bills,

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anything that comes through your doors. We are told, we cycled but

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we forget that this bit of paper actually contains a lot of

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information. Name, address, from the bank. They can take numbers,

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they can go forward with that number and assume your identity.

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It's so easy you can do it tomorrow. And that's why tens of thousands of

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people fall victim to identity theft every year. And one of the

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worst perpetrators was Kevin Castle. A command that stole the identities

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of people in Somerset has admitted fraud today... Last month, Castle

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pleaded guilty to 27 fraud charges and one of money laundering. He

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spent tens of thousands of pounds in just ten months using credit

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cards in other people's names. And he had previous form - he was known

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as the Casanova Conman for the way he scammed women. For years, he

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lived the high life thanks to a shoplifting scam targeting DIY

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stores. He has been placed on the most wanted list... In 2010, he

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turned up in Somerset, at this country hideaway, living on credit

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raised using other people's personal details. One of those

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victims was John Scantlebury. He only found out his identity had

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been stolen when he checked with an online credit rating company.

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latest rating is 288. That's poor to very poor. It was through them

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that I found out there was a problem. I had not seen any

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paperwork and haven't had a letter, nothing. But there is actually for

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credit cards that had been applied for in my name. -- four credit

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cards. Already, a few thousand pounds had been spent. All that

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debt is in John's name - and he's still trying to clean up his credit

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history. I can't tell your number, you have said. What are you saying

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I have got to do? He said I cannot tell you anything over the

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telephone because I do not know a few you are. I have got to go to a

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branch and prove who I am. consequences of ID theft may be

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complicated for the victim but for the criminal it can be all too

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simple to pull off. It's late and I'm about to steal Alastair's

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identity. Like most of us, Alastair has left his bin out overnight. To

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All I need to do is get my hands on a bag. The recycling. And it's as

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Now an ID thief isn't expecting to get it all in one swoop. But every

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little bit of personal information has its use. An average week's

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rubbish for Alastair's household and this is what can get thrown

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away unnoticed... Credit card receipts and even mail just chucked

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in the recycling - exactly the sort of thing an identity thief is

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looking for. Alastair's actually pretty good with what he throws

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away. And rummaging through bins can be disgusting work but there is

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an even easier and much cleaner way of going about things. Stealing

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mail before the victim has even seen it is one the most common

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methods used by crooks. And for conman Kevin Castle, living in

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rural Somerset made that a lot easier. Here, it's not unusual to

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see external, unsecured letterboxes. Castle was only stopped when one of

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his victims eventually caught him Back in Bristol, I've managed to

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get enough information from Alastair's personal documents to

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start getting to work. Just a few bits of personal information left

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in a bin, a little bit of know-how and a spot of blagging and

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Alastair's life can become an open wallet. With enough bin raids or

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just some plain good luck, the ID thief can set about rebuilding

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anyone's life for their benefit. And once you establish an approved

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line of credit, it's easy to start racking up the goodies. This is

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just some of the stuff Kevin Castle managed to pay for using other

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people's details... So this is all the stuff he bought with other

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people's money? Yes and as you can see, quite a lot. He's got the best

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of everything, hasn't he? How did he get away with it for so long?

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Well, a lot of the people didn't know there was a credit card in

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their name because sometimes he was stealing the bills as well, so it

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was quite simple really, an easy thing to do. Now this tin, what's

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inside? It was found buried in the back garden. Inside were all these

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documents and this is probably the best example of what he was doing.

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It has got a record of identity numbers and withdrawals from cash

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machines, dates and days and records of names, addresses, dates

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of birth. They have got names of children living in the house.

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Everybody in the house. You have got the maiden names of ladies.

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Often a maiden name is used. It's shocking to see just how far Castle

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was prepared to go in invading other people's lives. He's now due

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to be sentenced for his crimes in April. As far as Alastair's

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concerned, I think it's time to come clean. How easy is it to steal

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somebody's identity? Alastair's inside. He thinks he's doing an

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interview with an expert on identity fraud. He's not. I've got

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Helena. Hi, Alastair, I'm Polly Parsons, from BBC3's The Real

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Hustle. Now, you think you're making a film about identity theft,

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but actually you've just become its latest victim. Right? You have

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become the latest victim. We have been told you are pretty good at

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keeping your details private, right? I think I am. You might

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recognise some of these. Bank account details, credit card

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receipts. Store accounts. Look at that. You have been going through

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my rubbish bins? They have been left outside for anybody to take.

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How interesting! Go for it. We will go to the laptop. I have been

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filling out a credit card application form. Everything is in

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your name. We have got an advance of �10,000 in cash coming straight

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to me but the debt is in your name and is your problem. Because you

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have got all that information? You have got my address. I cannot

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believe this was in my recycling but it must have got out. All I

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have to give his press sub-let and that money will come to me. Do not

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do it! But one simple mistake and I could have had a massive shopping

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spree on a you up because I am a nice person I have bought you a

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present. I have brought you a shredder. You need to start

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shredding all of your forms. I had better get started. Definitely.

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always think of myself as being absolutely meticulous with all my

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financial things. So I am amazed that I was that careless and that

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it is that easy to steal my identity. I will be a lot more

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careful in future. Alastair is lucky that he did not lose out,

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this time. But remember, one simple mistake and anyone can fall victim

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If there is something you would like us to investigate, you can

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send us an e-mail. Coming up - a following the killing of the Vicar

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of Thornbury, we look at the dangers of the clergy's open-door

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At last year's Labour Party conference, a young woman from

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Bristol gave a moving and personal account of losing eight members of

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her family to knife and gun crime. But when Kirsty Hemming took a

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closer look, she discovered a very different story.

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Now is the time for us to unite... Court is 24 years old. She leads an

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anti- gun and knife crime in Bristol. She ran in the local

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election last year, up unsuccessfully. I am here to talk

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about why young people are dying before they see their age of 21.

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This is not an issue happening in one place as some people would like

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to think. This issue is causing a problem in all the cities in the UK,

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including London, Liverpool, Nottingham, Birmingham and in my

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own area of Bristol, with eight of my family members been murdered

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here. After a standing ovation from a senior politicians at a

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conference, local newspapers picked up on Naressa's speech. Around the

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same time, the focus on the city's youth crime intensified. Some

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members of the St Pauls Blood Gang were jailed for firearm offences.

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According to the Home Office, incidents of knife crime are

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decreasing, so I was keen to meet the woman who claimed to have had

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eight family members murdered here. I arranged to interview her about

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her experiences. A after I finished my speech, everyone stood up and

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started clapping. I could not believe that had just happened.

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claimed receiving applause from a high-ranking politicians is a far

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cry from her previous lifestyle. When it came to school, I used to

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fight and I used to argue. If you annoyed me, I wanted to hurt you.

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When I was at college, there was a girl and she really hacked me off.

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I rang her up saying, say goodbye to your family because tomorrow in

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college I am going to kill you. What progress have you seen since

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you started campaigning in Bristol? Naressa says she has turned her

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life around and is working to help others to do the same. She is

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regularly invited into schools to help young people with anti-

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violence Project. I have lost friends. One after another after

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another. I thought, enough is enough. She said she knew Leon

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Plummer, who was stabbed and died in Bristol in 2002, but I wanted to

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know more about Naressa's tragic story and the rest of the family

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she told the Labour conference she had lost. She broke down their

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names, but a search of the death that history told me the people she

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listed were not there. I was becoming more confused about her

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story, but she continued to emphasise to me how dangerous a

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place Bristol is a young people. live in a society where we hear or

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read about young people being murdered every day. Having lived in

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the region for more than 20 years and worked as a journalist here for

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half of that, Naressa's description of the area is not one I recognise.

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Violent crime does happen here, but not as a daily occurrence. And when

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it does, lives are torn apart. Friends of Lloyd Fouracre were

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trying to come to terms with his death. Adam Fouracre's brother was

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beaten to death by a gang of youths in Taunton. He died the day before

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his 18th birthday in 2005. Adam set up a charity to help young people

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of boy violent crime. He has made a film about his brother to show to

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school children. It certainly can happen to anybody. It didn't even

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happen in the town centre. It happened in a residential area. It

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was such a needless loss of life, but it was also so devastating to

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so many people. Hello, everyone. Today is about violence and its

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consequences. The charity set up in Lloyd's memory has had a cinema

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campaign across the south-west. After hearing about Lloyd, I wanted

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to find out more about the family members that Naressa said she had

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lost to Ireland crime. I found something strange. Naressa was

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talking to some of the people she said she had lost on Facebook. She

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did not lose eight members of her family to violent crime. Statistics

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show at that violent crimes are actually going down. The fear of

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crime is greater than the reality. One of our main aims is not only to

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make people be saved, but to make them feel safe. There is a

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perception gap across crime, but particularly in the area of violent

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crime. People think the city is a more dangerous place than it is.

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the days after filming, I asked her again about the people who she

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claimed had died. In an e-mail, she admitted that the majority of the

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people on the list she had given me had not been murdered. Nevertheless,

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Naressa's new-found influence within knife crime charities has

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got her a long way. She has organised a gig for either 1,000

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young people with the support of 02. Welcome. We have just started

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letting people in. It is crazy and mad right now. She is just the best.

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Naressa Gordon! We are here at the Indigo O2 where we have Chipmunk.

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We have Wretch 32... She has got some big names involved. Naressa

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Gordon is doing a lot to get the anti-violence message out to young

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people. She has the support of over two, the Labour Party and numerous

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international youth organisations. But her speech at the Labour Party

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conference in September simply wasn't true, so I want to find out

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why she felt she needed to create such a tragic story to get

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attention for her campaign, and why the Labour Party in Bristol West

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have promoted it ever since. Up until 10 days ago, the speech

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was still featured on the Bristol West Labour Party website. Since I

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got in touch with them about it, they have removed the video, but

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they did not wish to speak to us. Naressa is still a Labour Party

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Youth Officer for them. I asked her to meet me again for an interview,

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but instead she sent a statement. She said I have lost three family

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members and five close friends who I consider as family. I realise I

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may have used words that might have been misleading and I regret this.

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But this contradicts what she has already told me, that she has not

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lost eight front of family members to violence. I really need to get

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to the bottom of this. Hello it. It is Kirsty Hemming from

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the BBC. It is clear you did not tell the truth at the party

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conference and we need to get to the bottom of that. Remember you

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gave me a list of names and said those were the people you work

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referring to at the party conference. Is that correct. You

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don't remember? You just want us to use the statement you have given us

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as fact, but even though you have already told me it is not true? So

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you have given me a false statement. But when you said that at the party

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conference, you maintain that was the truth. So what she said at a

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party conference was untrue? She has hung up the phone on me.

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Naressa admits that a people she spoke about at the Labour Party

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conference are not all family members, but maintains that they

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were murdered. She gave me the names of the people she was talking

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about in her speech. Now I have found that they are alive, she

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claims they are a different set of victims. She is now working on a

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campaign calling for the Government to give more money to community

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activists like her who tackle gun and knife crime and she is aiming

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high. We need to try and get me to talk to one of those political

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leaders. David Cameron would be perfect, but any of them body. --

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of them will do. I don't want their minions, I want them.

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Two weeks ago it, Reverend John Suddards was stabbed to death in

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Thornbury. Tonight, we investigate clergy who run an open-door policy.

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The brutal killing of the Vicar of Thornbury has left this community

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shocked. Reverend John Suddards was found with multiple stab wounds in

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the hallway of the vicarage. A man has been charged with his murder.

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Church leaders immediately spoke of the dangers because our expose too.

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Sadly, this exposes the vulnerable nature of parish ministry in some

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of our communities today. We will, of course, in the coming months,

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continued to bring our care and support in every way we can to the

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people of Thornbury. It has now emerged that Reverend John Suddards

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had spoken at one of his churches about the dangers presented to the

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clergy. Meg Adnams is a parish councillor at St Arilda's at

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Oldbury-on-Severn where John Suddards was also parish priest.

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She remembers a sermon he gave last October. He described how he had

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invited someone into his home that week. He was a travelling vagrant

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really. He had given him a meal and let him talk, listen to hit and

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then the man had gone on his way. But John said I live alone in the

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vicarage and being a vicar anyway is a risky and these people are

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very vulnerable and that is how I remember it, and I had put it at

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the back of my head and will be awful events of this week. John

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Suddards, a filmed here at one of his former parishes, had continued

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an open-door policy. It was something he spoke about on his

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local community radio station. is very important. The Church has

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been there for the people of Thornbury for hundreds of years and

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I know few people who don't go in there and find something that helps

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them, lists them. It is a place where people go and encounter God.

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There are risks, but we are called upon to take them. This parish

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priest is all too aware of the situation. I am very wary. If there

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is someone outside I do not recognise, I have to weigh that up

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and think about who it might be, whether I open the door properly or

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open it on the chain because at the end of the day, I am responsible

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for my own safety and when my children were living at home, for

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their safety, to. Now she is calling on all clergy in the

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Bristol diocese to look at their own safety procedures. I think it

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has always been a priority, but when incidents in the community

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occur, it brings the importance of good self awareness and well-being

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to the forefront, and so it has brought that item again to the top

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of our agenda. At the forefront of training clergy in personal safety

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is national church watch. This former policeman gives seminars on

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personal protection to clergy and church workers. I had been told by

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clergy up incidents of violence. They had been punched in the face,

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threatened with knives, been harassed by members of the

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congregation. These are all common events that happen all over the

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country, but this area is not immune from it. One of the methods

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of catching a criminal is to offer a walk, isn't it?

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It is thought a mandatory system should be available for incidents

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to be reported. As far as I am aware, there is no method of

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reporting incidents across the country. It is therefore hard to

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prove what is going on because of the lack of evidence. Whatever

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increases there may be insecurity, church leaders are adamant that the

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open-door policy will remain. expect to be on the front line and

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we do expect things to happen, but that will not undermine hour

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passion and having the door open is That is all we have time for, but

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